Carquest Oil Filter R85516 vs. 85516 vs. 85516HD Oil Filter Cut Open Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2023
- Oil Filter Inspection. #Mobil #Motorcraft #Supertech #Wix
Today open up and compare 3 Carquest oil filters. Would you use them? Let's open them up and see what's inside!
Carquest R85516 oil filter: shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/c...
Carquest 85516 oil filter: shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/c...
Carquest 85516 HD: shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/c...
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One thing that stuck out for me was at 2:17 the thread has a crack (don't like that at all) It could very easily chip off and get sucked into the motor... One thing I did like about red was the inlet holes are much larger. Blue is better in every way. I like the thicker can also...for a working truck or even passenger cars road debris is a major concern
Good Catch on the threads👍 I missed that.
Nam for the win!💪🏼
VERY disappointed with the USA filter😢
The blue one made in Vietnam looks exactly like the Microgard Select from O'Reilly auto parts which is also made in Vietnam. They're excellent filters.
Probably made by the same company
Microgard Select as well as this model are made by Premium Guard.
That Blue filter looks top notch compared to the others. Appreciate the eye opening video.. 👈😀👍
Thanks!👍
Glad you liked the video😊
Based on the analysis, I would pick the one from Vietnam in terms of both quality and price.
I'm surprised, but it seems like the Vietnam filter is the best. I was really disappointed in the USA filter. They cut a lot of corners making it.
This is just my opinion but,
Cheap labor overseas, that's why they can make it there and sell it here and still make a profit. I think it sucks!
They cut corners here because they have to pay the employees $$ and probably pay higher property taxes $$ also Insurance for employees $$ and so forth. The truth be told, the competition "other countries" dont play by the same set of rules.
Thanks!👍
They could make the USA one the best but it would be triple the price and no one would buy it.
1:21 It does NOT say the filter is "rated for 10,000 miles." It says "UP TO 10,000" which anyone should normally assume is the upper limit under the worst case scenarios.
Play on words
If you follow some channels doing many UOA's, you gotta be nuts to be going over 7500 on many engines, especially alot of DI engines.
Blue for the win ! i wouldn't be to worried about the filter media being too restricted ! even a fram ultra guard flows 11 gals a minute with 5w30 engine oil ! very intriguing video ! 👍
Thanks, Scotty👍
One would think Most filters restrict until the oil warms. And that The bypass allows the oil to flow until warm enough.
Thank you for this informative video. I'm 63 y.o. and still do most of the maintenance on my cars. I've learned alot from watching your channel. Your videos help me make good choices.
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I'm glad you like the videos😊
Nice job as usual, Whip. The most overused phrase on a lot of products has to be “Heavy Duty”.
Or the "New and Improved" LOL🤣
Thanks!👍
Vietnam is becoming a manufacturing power house. Even opening up factories in the USA. 🤠
Great review whip! Had a feeling the Vietnam filter would come out on top. Overseas quality has definitely improved!!
Thanks 404👍
overseas quality has been THE quality for decades now. wake up. everything made in the us is made without pride or desire and cheaper than in china, but you pay way more at the end.
@404notfound.....I agree about Vietnam products. I actually like the clothes made there; they a much better quality than China and about anywhere else overseas.
it has an inferior tube, as does the chinese, the USA has the best tube, if I have to say why then um no point... the density of the filter paper isn't what makes a filter a good filter, they clogg quicker, do not flow as well, and may deteriorate quicker? the real test is what the medium, actually is????? filters have a tolerance, certain sizes do not need to be trapped, of course all metal you want trapped, why you want a magnet in your oil filter or why you should put a magnet about 3/4 to 1" wide the entire circumference of your filter, you want to grab any metal particles before they are filtered . . . again media type is more important than density, petroleum products can deteriorate many filtrate materials, some swell when wet, some do not, so its not how dense it appears under a microscope...
lmao cope@@deandee8082
So odd that the "heavy duty" filter would have the thinnest can. The Blue filter looks identical to the MicroGard Select filters (also made in Vietnam) sold at O'Reilly's.
Yep, I wouldn't doubt made by the same company.
I used the "blue" equivalent STP from autozone, and my engine knocked at startup. I used Citgo supergard synthetic 5w30. If I could figure out how to send a used filter to you for cutaway, I'd be happy to do so.
@@toneyfamily1398 Just send me an email and let me know what you have to, Poker4me007@gmail.com
The cheapest one looks like the best one. CarQuest should be ashamed to sell that "HD" filter.
Thanks for your feedback👍
there are so many people who over tighten oil filters, I guess they don't trust the seals. The other thing is that as the filter gets heated and cooled it seems to tighten itself over time. For both of those reasons it's better to have a thicker metal outer can come time to remove it. Thinner cans often collapse during removal requiring you to stab it with a screwdriver to get it off making the job much messier. Hand tightening is all that's required for filter installation.
The "O" ring expands with heat to tighten the seal.
Before I even clicked play I had a feeling the Vietnam made filter would come out on top😂 Very disappointing to see the USA Baldwin.
I’m disappointed on the Baldwin too
Same here. Expect Vietnam to be the best
Vietnamese number 1 american number 10
Being private labeled, they were all built to a price point.... don't think Baldwin can't build a better filter than this.... they can, its just Carquest didn't pay for better.
Is this version the same as a Baldwin branded filter? I know Wix used to build at least 2 different filters, like for Napa, gold and silver.
This is a very common upgrade for Ford engines with the 2.0, 2.3, and I believe the Mazda 2.5L Duratec. The manual calls for the shorter (Motorcraft) FL-910 filter, but the slightly longer FL-400 filter will fit just fine. They are both about $4-5 at Walmart and in my opinion the best deal at that price.
Thanks for Sharing👍
Motorcraft has the antidrainback valve at the base, opposed to the top. Shorter dry starts.
The bigger filters are just holding more "dirt", if you replace the OE one at the 500 miles, there should be no issue with the dirt capacity. All in all, not really an "upgrade".
@@freedomspeech9523 A longer filter with more filter media is always an upgrade, all other things being equal.
Great to see a trio of coil springs (my preference over stamped metal retainer springs). Of the three filters, I would use the blue one because it is the only one with a silicone anti-drainback valve and it has a silicone gasket as a bonus.
Thanks, Jeff👍
Hopefully, this is an oil-resistant silicone…
That was great of Steve to offer up the filters! Thanks for the test...I happen to use Carquest filters mainly out of convenience; and we have a farm account with our local Carquest. So, it's nothing but Blue Premium on any of the equipment. We use them on all of our equipment (tractors, combine and skid steer), personal autos, house generator and our 18 wheeler. It it's an engine with a filter, it's using a Carquest filter on it.
Yes, it was nice of Steve👍
Thanks for Sharing👍
Just shows that the cost and quality don't always line up. Best thing to do is change oil and filter per manufacturer recommendations. 😊
Wrong. Don't change by manufacture recommendations. Change every 5 to 8k miles. Do an oil analysis to narrow it down when to change. Maybe you can delay oil changes to 10k or maybe you need to do every 3k.
@@amplituhedron5582 My point being: just change you oil and filter!!! Far too many seem to go years without changing oil and pay dearly....
I know a lot of new cars try to stretch the oil change interval out. Many comments in other videos on this topic also. Many older cars used to be 10,000 km (6,200 mi), I don't trust the longer intervals.
@@jasonh.8754 yep, I do the same...
If you want to save money, go with the EQUIVALENT non-factory branded filter. Good example: no need to use "Motorcraft filters OR Motocrft oil in your Ford product. Btw, Ford DOES NOT manufacture their OWN oil, don't know about the filters. Also, if you are told to use "Ford" spark plugs because non-Ford plugs will cause mis-fires and DAMAGE the coils not true. I recently replaced my ORIGINAL plugs in a '13 Focus with NGK not Motorcraft plugs. Upon removal of the stock plugs, I noticed that the plug number "stamped" into the plug EXACTLY matched the number on the NGK plug, but the NGK plug was cheaper. Don't get misled with this "use only OEM" BS!
I really prefer the much thicker cans. If you ever had a filter Jerry Gorilla put on you will know why. Many years ago was riding with a friend some sort of road debris punctured a small hole in the can.
For those of us that would ONLY do it ourselves, it's a moot point..
The one made in Vietnam seems to be a winner .I have Marantz receiver , a Sofar furniture and some electronics, shoes made in Vietnam they are pretty good ,sturdy I like them
Great video. Test like this will make American filter makers step up and make better products. Keep up the good work my friend.
Thank You Greg👍
That is just one filter, does the US only have one domestic filter manufacturer?
So the American made was the cheap & nasty. 😂
@@vette63 HaHa,,, Not according to the yanks... Ya just can't beat made in the good ol USA.. Just ask em. It's constant and monotonous,, and quite often very wrong..
Think so ? I doubt that - all that drives American anything is profit.
Have used Car Quest filters for a long time and never a problem. Got the blue premium filter on my 2 litre engine Toyota with Mobil one 0w20 oil. Did an oil change just last week at 5000 miles and the motor oil still looked very clean.
For most of us out there, I think 5K oil change intervals are the way to go. A clean engine is a happy engine😊
Thanks for Sharing👍
I love the various national production reviews of the same filter.. I hope we can do more of these in the future.
Overpriced because it says "American Made". It's the cheapest construction and would not perform as well as the blue. The blue filter with the red seal is the clear winner.
You can’t assess filter performance visually. You need to actually test the filters. Looks can be very deceiving. Only a fool would choose a filter based solely on a teardown and visual inspection.😊
Blue for the win!
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Excellent review. I was hoping to see all of these at some point.
Thank You👍
Thank you, Steve. The Carquest Bue filter will be my option for the next oil change.
The Carquest blue appears to be the exact same as a Micro Guard select from Oreillys. Which to me has been an impressive filter every time ive seen one opened.
I was thinking the same thing! And it’s cheaper at Advance!
Great video once again WhipCityWrencher love how you are comparing them all at the same time. Thanks for video
Thanks, WrenchingMafia👍
Thank you and Steve from Virginia for making this valuable video happen.
You're Welcome👍
I haven't used a Carquest blue filter in ages, back when it was made in the USA by Mann+Hummel. I have to say the blue is a pretty decent filter as is the red (for being a 5K filter) but I am disappointed in the Baldwin made filter. It is well made but the filter media is less than the blue and they use a nitrile adb valve. If I had nothing else, I'd use the blue without much worry,
Thanks, Jim👍
@@WhipCityWrencher anytime Pete
Thanks, Pete
Another great comparison video. Blue seems to be the winner to me.
Thanks, Jonathan👍
I always did that with my 84 vet back in the day to recommended AC Telco filter with small so I got a longer one that went on a truck and the filter itself would hold a quart of oil pretty much. One of the car mags either carcraft or hot rod put you on to it back in the day
I could never understand why GM specks such a small filter on a Corvette which Is there highest performance car and one of the most expensive You can't say it was for cost of maintenance that would be stupid
There is no disadvantage to a smaller filter
Okay tell yourself whatever you want a larger filter means you can have more oil in the system and more filter media.
@@darrenporsch more oil is unnecessary... And more filter media is just not true, it depends on the depth of the actual filter and the amount of pleats
@@justarandomguy3969 Yeah the larger filter I used was twice as long as the stock one. And more oil in the system means more fluid to hold all the dirt and crud and solid particles and suspension
Ive used synthetic oil and filters for years, mostly mobil 1. However, after some project farm oil reviews, I've started leaning a bit more penzoil synthetic. Both are great oils. As for filters, Iv.started to do a bit more research. I definitely want to stay with a premium filter since I change my oil about every 7000 miles. Due to the increasing prices in Mobil 1 filters, been trying a few other options. I've tried super tech (Walmart) blue. Last time I tried this Carquest blue after seeing a review. The price is right. At Advanced, I couldn't find it on the shelf. However, they had some in back. Probably because of the lower cost and lower profit margin. Stay away from fram unless you do their top premium
By chemical standards, Mobile 1 is NOT synthetic. They won the right to claim in via lawsuit. My guess is the penzoil is superior but that is only a guess. Higher end oils are often much better than M1. For budget but still a great product it is hard to be Rotella T6 full syn.
Been switching off between Carquest Premium and Motorcraft OEM on my 2014 ecboost F150. Both work great. Change my oil at 4k.
Thats keeping your engine clean😊
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Carquest BLUE
The best filter their... Best filter media, best gasket, best adbv.
This one is easy, the BLUE one is the best here.
And the made in America filter was almost double the price of the Vietnam made one.
here in the EU we try to avoid US filters. they usually not so good.
the EU filters and the Asian filters are what we prefer .
i am a licensed mechanic for about 45 years now.
I have problems with oil change shops keep putting in my mind the wrong filters on my cars. I have a '06 Chrysler Sebring 2.7l v6 and a '13 Dodge Charger 5.7l v8 hemi. I get my cars back and it seems they both get filters for a smaller engines. Sebring seems to get a 4cyl engine filter, the Charger seems to get a v6 filter. There is a definite size difference to the correct filters according to my eyes. When I check the guide available at Walmart where i usually buy Fram filters(for warm weather when i can change them myself) the filters recommended are definitely different than what the shops use.
Tell them ahaed of time which size oil filter you want.
makes me wonder if the hd filter wasnt a price point fleet type filter.just the basics.
Thanks Steve!!!!!🎉
Very good review Pete, great job! TFS. Have a good one 👍. Merri
Thanks, Merri👍
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Preface by saying, if Steve is still under vehicle/engine warranty, he's taking some risk (however small) running a bigger non spec filter. If something was to happen to engine, dealer could use as reason to void engine warranty. Even out vehicle warranty. any filter warranty is voided. The CQ Blue looks to be the best, very similar to maybe same as O'R MicroGard Select. Consensus seems to be a Premium Guard made filter. Imo, unfortunate Advance Auto (AAP) has off shored the CQ red and blue, but no doubt cheaper to make outside US. The bottom line. Thanks for vid.
I wonder if filters fall under the Magnussen Moss act like oil does. Also, some vehicles spec bigger/smaller filters for front driveshaft clearance(4x4) and uses a shorter filter with exact same engine.
Many GM 2500 and 3500 trucks from 2000 on are a perfect example of this.
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@@GT-mn3bx Yes, aftermarket oil filters, air filters, etc are covered by MMWA. However, that coverage here would apply to the spec filter for the vehicle. Using a larger/taller filter than spec (non spec), is not covered by MM Act. Now, technically in the case of vehicle warranty, the dealer is supposed to have to prove the filter caused any issue they claim, but real world, who has the deeper pockets and time of vehicle use on their side. The dealer, vehicle manufacturer.
YaY to Steve! Another great comparison! Happy Thanksgiving! 👍😊
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When I had 70's-90's chevy v8s, I always ran the long azz truck filter and a dedicated remote oil cooler w fan. (Trans cooler, with spin on remote filter kit too)
Keep that oil clean, use synthetic, and in a decent temp range , and your engine will last a much LONGER time more then your buddies exact same ride who goes to the dealership $$Spends$$ every 3000 miles but sits cooking in traffic idling.
Wow, I just checked the prices for these filters online at Advanced Auto and the Carquest standard filter (red) is $5.49, the premium (blue) filter is $7.79, and the HD is $15.49! 😲 So the most overpriced one got even more overpriced LOL
Seems an honest brand TBH. Nice review Whip!
Thanks👍
Good to have a choice between the Carquest Blue and MicroGard Select now😂 For me at least😂
Both are made by Premium Guard.
Blue all the way.
Thank u ☺️ very detailed
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Thanks!
Great info👍
The real question is whether using any *particular* filter would make any difference over time. Great job and a detailed video on the physical nature of these filters but I didn’t see any pricing info on any of these units.
Prices are on the screen in the begining of the video.
Looked at it again-I noticed pricing this time. Thanks.
They will all perform the same as far as protecting the engine!
@@TheOzthewiz so long as you use new filters every so many miles. And new oil every so few thousand miles. Maintenance is key to keeping engine running longer with clean oil and free of dirt. And also if the filters don't malfunction which defeats their purpose.
Excellent/thorough oil filter analysis.
Thank You👍
Keep this up. I can only hope that videos like this will lead to better products. Thank you.
I hope so too! Thanks👍
More than I need to know❤
Carquest filter were made by wix, prior to advance buying them out. I don’t know if it still the same.
Great job Pete
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Vietnam makes a nice filter
Blue (Vietnamese) filter FTW!!! They won the war and they also won this comparison review! LOL
I like the filter with the silicone gasket and anti drain back valve. I wonder how much they were priced at?
$7.79 at 0:05
Thanks!
I have watched a number of your oil filter reviews, and you always cut them open before you weigh them. So, guess I should have watched this video first. I apologize for jumping to conclusion, thank you for weighing the filters before cutting them open.
Thanks Pete.
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Thanks for the oil filters😊
I’d like you to have a comparison of an OE /factory filter as well as these aftermarket filters. I believe at times the higher end aftermarket filters are better. Thank you for your efforts. 👍 I just subscribed to your channel.
Thanks! I look into it.
I like the american made one that was made 40years ago
I use Walmart oil filters now, they are made in the good ol USA
That's the first time I've seen a silicone o-ring and anti drain back valve. It almost looks like the blue filter is the best. But isn't the blue the standard filter, compared to the red and hd?
I'd say standard.
The red is the base entry filter supplied in bulk to their commercial customers. The blue is their premium line supplied to their commercial customers. Those two are the stocking lines for the places that do oil changes daily. The HD series is generally not supplied to their commercial customers unless specifically requested. They are usually in the back and for the Ag and fleet customers and not the oil change shops.
I’d use the blue filter
Why do any of these details matter? It seems if the the oil flows through "a" filter media without limiting oil pressure, has a seal that lets up to 12 months, and the can doesn't come apart, then it's good.
It matters if you want to go purchase an oil filter for your vehicle. You will be a more knowledgeable consumer.
Thanks!
Excellent video.
Thanks👍
The HD had the thickest medium but not best filtration because its meant to hold more without getting restricting flow. Good pick for higher mileage intervals. But I change mine frequently so id go with Vietnam. Idc how good or bad the Chinese one is I avoid things from China on principle.
I THINK Carquest and Federated are the same filter suppliers. I've never got a crap filter from a Federated. All were "OK" up to the Baldwins which are top tier.
Blue
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Very interesting. I have been using Baldwin and Donaldson filters for all my diesel engines, mostly Baldwin; may be it is time to try a different one?
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so which one is better ? wow this guy is good he just put me sleep just listening the way he talks. please get hold of him if some of you have a hard time to fall asleep at night.
I wouldn't use any of these oil filters just put a Purolator Boss oil filter and sleep even better.😊
blue seems best
An old equipment mechanic once told me that most oil filters only filter for a month or so and then bypass.
I don't think so.
Any oil filter is good enough. For that matter no oil filter is probably not a big problem if you’re changing oil regularly.
Pretty much. Frame filter in Canada has dirt reputation. But as much as how many people hate it. There is no single case of failure relate to their filter.
Interesting. Looks like Carquest blue and red switched to premium guard instead of Puralator. The HD looks like a Puralotor.
Red gets my vote. The holes are huge compared to the others - so better flow
If the bypass valve opens at 15 psi seems like in cold weather with slightly dirty oil bypass would open untill oil warms my Vette runs 65 psi
It depends on how much resistance builds up in the oil filter. Even at 65 psi if the resistance for the oil to flow through the oil filter is less than 15 psi the bypass valve won't open.
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"Goooooood morning Vietnam " 🇻🇳 definitely won the battle over the Red Chinese 🇨🇳 filter ,still prefer the good old USA 🇺🇸 made filter, but the Vietnamese made filter has the best features & build quality
Full watch friend i missed this 👍
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Take the blue
Nice job.
Thanks!👍
Looks to me, the blue is the best. WHY would Car Quest use silicone parts on blue & not the HD? What are the results of using larger filters over shorter recommended filters? 🤔
Car Quest (General Parts Corp) was absorbed by Advance Auto Parts' corporate owner several years ago. That is why you see Car Quest branded products in Advance stores.
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I would like to see an engine run with no filter at all and see how long it lasts.
Comparison should be done at the end of service life as to whether filter media contains dirt, metal shavings and filings and overall condition.
I open up a lot of used filters also.
Blue for the win
Will pick
1) Vietnam
2) China
3) USA
Great video, but I don't worry too much about this stuff. I go out to the dealership parts counter and buy a few filters when I need them. No fast oil change shops for me. They told me to stay away from Fram filters no matter what.
Thanks!
If I was to use Fram I go with the Fram Endurance.
Red one is standard mode(cheapes)l, blue is premium, HD stands for Heavy Duty. They are different grade of products with different prices, should not compare them side by side.
I dont really understand why people say this , don't we always compare products cheap to more expensive.
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks for replying! To my own understandings, the Chinese one (red) is designed to be cheaper than the other two, so it's acceptable if it uses materials with lower grading.
It's just like I won't expect a Toyota Camry can be as good as a Lexus ES. 😃
OE or a Wix filter for the win
Great video thank you for putting these out there! I am curious though, about the engineered flow rate between the Vietnamese and US filter. The Vietnamese filter media almost seemed homogenous in character (too tight perhaps?).
Thanks!
I think the Vietnamese filter would be more restrictive than the other two but would filter better, I would hope the manufacturers would have done tests so that it's not too restrictive. Otherwise, it will go into bypass.
I noticed the oriental filters don't have paint on the bead lock crimped seam that attaches the can to the tapping plate. There was also over spray inside the can which isn't desirable. This implies that they have a whole different manufacturing process, meaning they paint the can BEFORE the entire filter is assembled. I observed this in one of your recent past videos too with a similar filter. Granted it is in the 'pre filtered' oil area of the filter but after decades of oil filter engineering why would you devolve to a less perfect design or manufacturing process? There are some solvent based oil additives that could scrub that paint off the inside of the can. Notwithstanding that, I have seen some impressive filter made in Vietnam, much more so than China.
Hi Vince,
I don't care for the overspray either. One thing I've noticed also on the Chinese-made oil filters is that there clean, and look good but the filter media under a microscope doesn't look all that good. Thanks!👍
@@WhipCityWrencher I agree Pete! It's funny I thought the same thing. It 'Looks' OK until you give it a closer inspection. The media looked kinda like Swiss cheese. The plate looked sort of crudely stamped in the die too. I've seen some impressively built filters from Vietnam, much more so than Chyna.
@@vincemajestyk9497 Yep
The WIX non USA made oil filter have over spray also.
Oil filters are single use items, and if they all meet specification and functions as design, I would go with the one that cost the least.