I've recently overclocked my 5800 x to 4.9Ghz one core boost and 4.6 GHz all core. I did this by enabling PBO2 in the BIOS forcing stock boost behavior but reducing the voltages slightly to also reduce heat and power draw. I then increased the offset by 50 megahertz. So ultimately I'm using slightly less power than stock and I've increased the boost clocks. One of the coolest overclocks I think I've ever achieved.
@@TheTechTank I don't really think I do as long as bad temperatures aren't a thing most 5800Xs can achieve 4.85 GHz on their own. I only have a 240 mm water cooler so it's not even that extreme of a cooling solution. I bet you I can hit 5 GHz with some more tuning?
Same as mine, what was the voltage offset you used? im running 15 stable, but i could get 18 with some oddities. my chip hits 4.95 , and 4.6-4.55ghz all core. I'm getting an AIO to see if i cant get it's all core higher than it is currently on air cooling. have you noticed any instabilities with SAM and undervolt/overclocking in PBO?
@@Dj-Mccullough I think I'm running 8 or something I didn't want to sacrifice stability too much I just wanted to be better than stock lol so no I haven't achieved any instability because it's just a modest overclock / undervolt
Thank you for this follow up video. This helped me make my decision between a 5600x and 5800x. I went with a 5800x because the price went down a ton. the 5600x was going for $300 and the 5800x went down to $341 on amazon and walmart. An extra $40 just seemed like a no brainer for a better cpu. If it was an extra $100 to $150 then that would be too much
Now that Intel Alder Lake is out, 5800x still makes sense for people who already have an AM4 motherboard which supports it. You can go from a Ryzen 2000 or 3000 series CPU to the 5800x on a B450 board, and be set for the next several years.
This is me. 100%. The bottleneck on the 2600x + 6800xt is real. Just purchased this for my birthday to put in my B450M steel legend. Until I upgrade to a x570, and give the b450M, and 2600x to my wife. I think the price point was right. And am excited to see the difference.
@@listorm28 just installed the cpu last night. Be ready to upgrade bios. Super easy process. But yes. Haven't had any issues yet. The thermals are a bit more toasty than a b550 or x570. But it works, and SAM is active paired with a 6800xt
i was there a week ago and saw that but wasnt planning a new build at the time. I ended up finding a gpu at retail and the sale was over and just bought one off ebay for 315. Hopefully its real. I already have a 5600x build and with the 5800x at a good price i think its worth it.
Sure, but futureproofing isn't a sure thing since we can't predict the future. The 5800X will probably still be relevant even five years from now, but so could the 5600X etc. so buying for the sake of futureproofing isn't always the best idea. If that makes sense.
I upgraded from Ryzen 3 3600 to the Ryzen 7 5800X this year before the fall season during the prices drops. I picked it up when it was about $340 on Amazon. The stability gained from was noticable once I h fine tuned the OC and RAM. Really grateful for the upgrade. Wishing I told say the same for GPU right now.
@user-sq2xh7js5x I know I'm late but maybe he meant it as an increase to fps in games, as someone might see that as more stability since they get higher frames
@@CRF250R1521 i got mine 12 hours ago it was on sale for 150 i couldn't resist. just gotten a 100$ amazon card from work as a safety bonus lol so i effectively just got a brand new 5800x for 50 bucks n tax!
Just nabbed a 5800x for $250 today! Was tempted to wait for Ryzen 7000 & Raptor Lake to see what's what, but I recently got my hands on a 3090 that is pretty bottlenecked by my current 6700k. Considering gaming is my main use of my PC, I think I'll be fine with this guy for a few years at the least.
5600x is way better :D its cheap for100€, and this future invest its just a placebo :D i also have 5800x anyway. Now I see i made mistake. If i know about that i have 3070 instead of 6700xt
Good content. Hope you get a lot more subs and keep making great content! I've been building PC's for 25 years, but, the last one I built was like over a decade ago. My last pc was actually a laptop that lasted me 7 years (Gigabyte P34Gv2 with i7-4710hq, Nvidia 860m 4gb, 16gb 1600 ram, 256gb SSD). Laptop was a beast! Had to take battery out after a couple years (but I used it as a desktop anyways). The desktop I just built has the 5800x, 32gb 3200 ram, 1tb Gen 4nvme, 1030 2gb (I skimped on the graphics card for now due to pricing. I figured paying $75 over msrp for a lower end card, was better than paying $400 over msrp for a high end card. It is about equal to the 860m I had so it works just fine for me for now). I rarely game anymore, but sometimes I'll open up some cs go, fortnight, cod, or the newer diablo. All work smooth. For video editing, I for sure notice the difference in rendering times; a 1 hour render, now takes like 15 minutes.
Really appreciate that, man! I've actually never owned a notebook with even half the power of your old one 😂 it's the next big upgrade I want to do. Definitely a smart move going with the 1030 until prices come down - I would've done the same. I'd never be able to justify paying the current hyper-inflated prices. At least the rest of your system will be set for many years to come, so when prices do come down you'll be good to go! And yeah the 5800X is a beast for rendering coming from my old 1700.
I completed my new build 3 weeks ago with the 5600x on a MSI x570s Tomahawk along with a Seasonic 850 Platinum psu knowing an upgrade would be in the future. I didn't realize the upgrade would be so quick, the 5800x will be in my mailbox in 3 days. I couldn't resist the 340.00 price tag.
The 5800x is the best gaming chip of the generation. 9600k and other cpu's with 6 cores (no ht) are already showing they bottleneck a 6800xt in the battlefield 2042 beta. my testing suggests that for 1440p gaming, the 5800x and 6800xt are the sweet spot for price, longevity , and performance. Dont try to manually baseclock/multiplier overclock these chips, Undervolt the cpu, then overclock with the pbo settings in bios.
Using for almost 8 months. I bought my for £389 and now you can get it £40 cheaper in UK. It’s great cpu, got no regrets and I’m cooling my with Deepcool Gammax 400 and it stays in low to mid 70s while gaming and that’s in NZXT H510 case.
@@jamestierney5568 that’s a great price and decent cpu. I couldn’t wait with my upgrade. I was using 3500X 6 cores 6 thread cpu. It was doing ok but was reaching 100% usage when multitasking, never while gaming. Smoothness after upgrade to 5800x was more than noticeable.
@@Ornal64 temperature was a major concern though as it was running very hot. Airflow in case isn't great and only have a wraith prism cooler. Had to use curve optimizer to get temps down and get it running well.
great information brother! appreciate your time. bought a pre-built pc about a year ago- and have been thinking it’s about time to upgrading and didn’t know exactly where to start. this looks like a perfect fit for me! thank you!
I'm thinking of buying this CPU right now, this video comes in handy. But one thing I'm considering is emulation, which is consistently ignored by ALL hardware reviewers. You could argue it's included in the "gaming" category, but it has its own specifics. Emulators require different balances of CPU/GPU performance, so seeing some related benchmarks would be really helpful.
Noted. I'll look into whether there are any reliable benchmarks out there for emulation, or at least something similar. I don't recall seeing any from the reviewers I watch either. Kind of weird.
@@TheTechTank It would be like a standard gaming benchmark, you should just test the most popular/demanded games, which are usually the most demanding ones (i.e. Mario Odyssey for Yuzu, Zelda BOTW for Cemu, Uncharted 3/TLOU for RPCS3, Red Dead Redemption for Xenia). I have to confirm it, but I think at least some of these emulators allow you to uncap the FPS, otherwise you will be stuck with the usual 30/60 FPS cap. While this might make games go out of sync and run faster than normal, it's extremely useful for benchmark comparisons.
@@sovo1212 That method along with all of the required prep to properly benhcmark is probably why most reviewers don't do it. It's a ton of effort for something only a small percentage of people will actually care about.
Will the Ryzen 7 5800x paired up with a Geforce Rtx 3060 and 32gb Ram (3200mhz) be good for streaming and gaming and recording/editing simultaneously? Or would I need a ryzen 9 5900x? I'm new to PC and this is what I was planning to go with if you could give me some advice please.
If you can afford the 5900X, that'd be ideal, but if not the 5800X should be more than enough. I use my 5800X for gaming and editing and I haven't run into any issues.
I've been using a 5800X since early January 2022 on my current gaming build(ASUS ROG STRIX B550, RTX 3070, 64GB DDR4). No complaints at all, but I don't really stress it all that much as I mostly play heavily modded Fallout 4 and Skyrim on max settings and a bit of World of Warships now and then.
Bro I already bought a 5800x MSI 3060 ti with Asus rog strix B550-F I haven’t build it yet but I saw some people says it is has heat problems I want to ask u as user is it true? Plus I don’t know what liquid cooler to buy Any advice?
Had my 5800x in Asus Tuf B550M motherboard for about 2 years now. I make YT videos in 4k and I play some games (mostly Fortnite, CS GO, & Hogwarts Legacy - I have a great Viewsonic 27" 1080x60 monitor - I am oldschool and 1080 looks great to me, and it lets me play 60fps in any game on max settings - I also have a 12" 720p second monitor.). I have 32gb ram, gen 4 NVME, & 3060ti. I kept my last computer for over 7 years. This one is 2 years old, and feels like brand new still. Never in the past could I alt + tab between games and internet browser in a flash; literally instant. Anything I throw at this is so quick to respond. Sure, a 5900x or 5950x would give me a bit faster video rendering times. But from the computer I came from, this is blazing fast (and about 1/3rd the rendering time of my last pc). This has lasted me 2 years, and I expect 5+ more years. I doubt I'll go above 4k for YT videos and personal recordings for many years. And I don't game as hard as I used to, but I like to get a new game here or there. Basically, when I cannot play games at 1080x60 at a constant fps of 60 on medium settings, then I'll build again.
So refreshing to run into someone who upgrades responsibly 😂 I would be surprised if that rig didn't last you at least another five years. I'm rocking a 5800X3D for 4K edits too, and honestly the difference between it and the 7900X in my other rig isn't all that noticeable.
I just bought one that was damaged from eBay. It must have been a younger person or a kid. He stated that it had bent and broken pins. I've felt with that before and had pretty good luck fixing pins so I gave it a chance. I looked at the pictures he sent that were magnified the best he could. I saw a few barely bent pins and no missing ones. I could tell no one had tried to work on it. The chip was pretty much perfect when I got it. I threw it under my magnification and found 3 pins barely bent. It took less than 5 mins to fix it. Works perfect. I don't understand why he didn't try to fix it. I offered it back to him at the same price but he already got a new CPU. I felt kinda bad I bought that chip for 70 dollars and if he would have just taken it to any repair shop they probably would have fixed it for free. He couldn't believe you could fix pins that were bent flat if your careful and replacing a pin is just practice. Get a old CPU and start practicing. You'll save a lot of money if you learn how to work on your own stuff. I've fixed several gpus also that just needed small things but practice soldering before you ever try.
Just bought one on amazon for $270. Upgrading from an i7 9700f (ik that cpu isn't bad but it's more practical in the long run to buy a new cpu and motherboard than to replace my current motherboard with a better one which is what I wanted to do in the first place)
I am also planning to get a 5800x. But I am confused with all the thermal issues, High temps that reviewers mentioned. Is it really a issue? And can you please recommend me a good AIO cooler for the 5800x? Thanks.😊
I'm not having any thermal issues with the chip. The only time I ever ran into higher than normal temps was when I overclocked too high. A 280mm AIO from a reputable brand, or high-end air cooler will handle it just fine.
AMD says that operating temps of 90 C are perfectly normal for this chip. Tho it's easy to undervolt a bit in the BIOS with curve optimizer and reduce temps by around 10 C.
So.e of the first chips for sure we're boosting well over 4.7 closer to 5!! And I'm pretty sure that's why the thermal issues were an "issue" I'll be using a vetroo v5 air cooler in white with a push pull config. I doubt I'll see more than 75 degrees under gaming load from the research I've done
Just got myself a 5800x for 170 USD yesterday. Its been a nice upgrade from my old R5 2400g from my little bit of testing last night. Im excited to see how it performs as time moves on.
I recently went for the 5900x and it’s a beast, with a minor overclock I’m doing 4.8ghz most cores with a few cores trying to hit almost 4.9ghz. All at no more then 45-48c under load, and 24-26 idle.
Thanks man! The CPU market is in the process of changing quite a bit in favor of the consumer, so try to hold off on that upgrade for as long as possible, lol.
I have been struggling with my PC build for literal months, having never built a PC before, this first build was/is truly meant to last me years as I’d been jumping from one mid-end gaming laptop to another, it made sense to just make a space and build a proper powerhouse Desktop. I was having issues playing on a 5800x, MSI RTX 3080, 64gb (4x8gb) 3600 ram PC, and at some point the heating issue with this CPU got so bad I could barely play low end games on medium settings without struggling. I was distraught and bought more fans to max out the case and reoriented my AIO. Finally having something seemingly normal on FPS for the same settings felt good, but it made no sense, thought I had gotten the worst luck in the silicon lottery. As it turns out undervolting just saved me so much money and grief as I had been looking at just upgrading to a 5900 or 5950, whatever I could find eventually, to hopefully fix the issue and just max everything as much as possible. My temps are finally reasonable and my system is running buttery smooth as Ryzen and Nvidia intended with max settings on all games I have stored in the ol’ steam library. My fix was recent, however I quickly came to this same conclusion of “is it actually good?” once seeing how the CPU performed normally and further researching why it ran as hot as it did. I have to say I agree fully in saying that if people are looking for high end performance at a lighter budget then this CPU really does have a good spirit, but its body wasn’t optimized for that, hence the 5900 being the most in demand CPU because it has more SA for heat dissipation. Regardless, 5800 + a simple undervolt and a decent cooler = one hell of a gaming CPU good for people who like to dabble outside of gaming
Really happy you managed to find a fix that worked for you, I've heard others also getting some really good results from undervolting the chip. What AIO are you using? A decent one should be more than enough to keep the 5800X in check... If the cooler's fine, it could've been that your motherboard had MCE on and pushed the chip much higher than it's supposed to go.
Great first video I've seen of your channel. Subbed! I picked this chip up for 199 on Black Friday @ Microcenter. For that price point it was an easy pick even thou there is so many options to pick from these days.
Upgrading from a Ryzen 5 2600 - I was going back and forth comparing the 5800X and the 11700K. Ryzen wins in my book because I can update my BIOS on my B450M motherboard and use it as opposed to having to buy a brand new Motherboard for over $150 US for the new intel chipset.
Maybe i9-10850k is a good choice , cheaper as well atleast in my country . As for the motherboard , usually I just do everything all over again when I want to upgrade my pc for say 4-5 years later
@@stevebanning902 I got mine setup yesterday and throughout the couple of stress test I manage to make, my 5800x held at 72ºC at 100% usage with all cores hitting 4.65Ghz with an artic 34 esports duo. All of this was achieved with everything in stock ( everything in auto on bios) except for RAM being at 3600mhz cl16. Even right now is sitting at 35ºC as I type this comment 22ºC ambient. So if it reaches 72ºC and I still can improve those temps while gaining a bit more performance, this thing is going to be a beast!
@@mrsuperselenio5694 Looks like you got one of the 20% of the procs that doesn't have issues. Good for you - but I ended up having AMD replace mine with a 5900x... way better.
I got the 5800x at launch and dont regret it, I upgraded from the 3700x due to playing VR on the HTC vive pro and the difference is huge. Was not sure the 5600x would do what I wanted but knew the 5800x would and did not go the 5900x because the word was it was a bit slower due to using 2 chiplets instead of one.
Ryzen 7 5800X.. 40% lesser in price while 30% more Gaming Performance comparing with Intel 11th Generation i7 11700F. Superb.. It was a Good decision to be part of Ryzen Family 🙂
At launch, every reviewer said to go for the 5900x instead if you want something better than the 5600x. But the 5900x was out of stock for ~6 months after launch and when it did eventually become available, the price was inflated. The 5800x on the other hand, was discounted basically from the start because of all the reviews which said not to buy it. I found it was actually the best value of the 3 once the market prices settled.
Wouldn't blame reviewers for that. Impossible to predict exactly what the market will do after a product goes on shelves. Fundamentally when it originally launched the 5800X presented the least value of the three, but I'm very happy that that's not the case anymore.
@@TheTechTank Oh yes of course, not blaming reviewers, based on the MSRP of the three, the reviews at launch were fully justified. Whilst it was acknowledged that the 5800x was a good CPU, it was clear the pricing was not right. I was just meaning that due to low demand for 5800x, the adjustment in the market value was very quick. You could argue this low demand was in part a consequence of the reviews, which is a good thing. I think I paid £100 under MSRP for my 5800x back in January 2021, because I could not find a 5900x anywhere (It was harder to get hold of than a GPU). The 5600x was also selling above MSRP, at least in the UK.
The reviewers were right, this chip has defective lidding and instantly hits 90c under load and will throttle it's clock speed. If you don't experience this, congrats - you're part of the 10% that didn't have defective lidding.
@@stevebanning902 That is interesting. Do you have any more info or links which go into details on this? I can't say i've noticed any issues but I have a fairly beefy cooler.
@@seismica No because AMD refuses to admit it. I have to undervolt my chip and lose 5% performance just to get it within normal operating temperatures and not max out. In neither situation could I hit max boost speed under load.
I’m going to build my own PC. I’m going with the 5800x and b450 motherboard. I’m just worried that other parts might not support it? What other parts need to be in to support it well enough or is it just motherboard?
Yip, pretty much just the motherboard. You'll want reasonably fast RAM to go with the chip (3200MHz and up), a decent cooler, and a good graphics card to get the most out of it, but you shouldn't be worried about parts not "supporting" it.
Got a full configuration with 5800x,but without a gpu,for £250 :) added an alienware 2k 240hz monitor for £280 and a 3070 msi for £320 and i ve got the best value pc since i ve first started in '98 :) ( yes i m a bargain hunter )
wow, you're the first reviewer to mention that a CPU with much higher consumption requires more expensive motherboards and coolers (and power supplies as well btw) much respect
Went from 3700x to 5800x. I feel like this CPU will serve well for about 5 years... But... I will upgrade before that for sure ahaha!!! I have a dual tower air cooler installed, and the temp tops at 72c-73c at 100% load. My computer case is opened. I have no case-fans running, so, it's very very quiet, unless I load the CPU. The double-CPU-cooler-fans are idling at very low speed, unless I render a video in DaVinci Resolve. Even though the side panel is opened, the case is positioned near a wall (3 inches away) so the inside of the computer is still protected from accidents. Heat dissipates upward by convection. Very silent and efficient.
Very awesome review. I just bought one cuz of this review because i wasnt sure about a good processor. Now hopefully Rust can run better than a dust filled vacuum cleaner.
love mine thanks for the help deciding, got it running at 5.0ghz single 4.7 multi core all day long in and out of game through an undervollt and pbo boost. it also manages to beat the 10900k r23 multi score you list in your video. best of all I caught it on sale for about $220 😁
This is really helpful in deciding whether or not to buy this CPU. Currently, they’re available for €259,- and I have been looking to upgrade my CPU for a small while now. Guess it’s going to be the 5800X then…
The 5800x was always the most desirable CPU at the least desirable value in the 5000 series lineup. It os understandable why it was priced high, the full unlocked/functional single CCX was precious to AMD in early in ZEN3 production. These fully finctional CCXs could make them alot more revenue in EPYC chips.
Yo man good video, very professional, clear and concise, I'm surprised u don't have more subs, either way good shit, I recently started getting into PC gaming, I haven't bought anything yet, but I've been researching PC parts and trying to learn all I need to know to make an informed purchase, which understanding what all the parts do is pretty easy, but once I dive in and try to understand the science & manufacturing of it all.....it's fucking crazy, it's like going back to school lol, but right now I'm just trying to find what websites have the best deals for PC parts, because I've never bought a PC idk what the "normal prices" are for anything, I just don't want to get ripped off or spend too much on a part that is valued at half the price I'm buying it at u know?
Thanks so much, dude, really appreciate it. We've all been there, man, it gets overwhelming very quickly. Unless you're super interested in the underlying science and all of that, then you really don't have to dig that deep, lol. Just the basics will get you all the way there. As for where to buy, and how much you should be paying, it largely depends on the country you're in. For instance, here in South Africa because of certain taxes and companies taking their cut throughout the chain, we get completely screwed over when it comes to the cost of electronics.
@@TheTechTank oh dn sorry to hear that, but yea I live in the U.S idk if u would know where to buy from in the states, but if u could recommend any good sites or any community threads that talk about PC part sales/deals that would be great, also when buying PC parts, is there anywhere that tells me what kind of performance it will Garner? Like how many pixels & fps I will get? Or is the only way to get that information, is watching RUclipsrs like u, who have tested it on multiple games?
Honestly, both Amazon and Newegg seem to consistently list parts for the price they "should be selling for". Sometimes prices do go wild with super popular parts, or during shortages like we're seeing right now. GPU prices are still insane pretty much everywhere for instance. I think the Honey browser extension actually has a feature that lets you see the price changes of specific products over time, so you can see what the lowest price for them "should be". PCPartPicker has a more robust version of that: pcpartpicker.com/trends/ Other than that, you might want to keep an eye on the LTT forums. Not sure if they list deals on there or not, but it's probably the best tech forum out there. There are websites like that that will give you a performance estimate based on certain parts and the games you want to play, but I'm not sure how reliable they are. This one seems like one of the better ones: howmanyfps.com/
@@TheTechTank thanks so much man u went above and beyond with your comment, much appreciated man, have a great day, and I hope your channel grows fast, u deserve it
Thinking of upgrading to this from a 2600, I have a 5500xt so I'm not cpu bottlenecked in most games, (some, I am though.) but it really crumbles when I try to do heavy multitasking like recording at the same time or running multiple games at once (FFXIV & Bluestacks as an example) I have the budget for it over the 5600x and I assume the extra two cores will help with what I want to do
If you're struggling with multitasking, then the 5800X is definitely going to make a much bigger difference than the 5600X. With the SMT, it's more like four extra cores and that's going to help a lot.
Snagged the 5800X for $300 at Microcenter. With the rise of CPU based Crypto mining again, I really don't want to wait another year to upgrade from a 2700X.
Are you satisfied with the 5800x? I just bought one yesterday to replace my 2700x. I upgraded my monitor to a massive Samsung G9 ultrawide in a big holiday sale last last year without fully contemplating how much more demanding that +7K resolution was going to be. Upgrades to 6900XT and 5800x should address that. Hopefully.
fun fact. a lot of people are unaware including many reviewers that the initial batch of 5800x and 5900x were actual dual ccd versions which AMD later revealed. and there will be a software release which includes a full unlocking of those processors. so the 5800x will ultimated become a 16core and in essence become the epyc version. and the 5900x will become the model higher than the current 5950x. they did it to the specifically the 6900xt gpu. you know the XTX and XTXH variants. i think amd is starting to transition to into using software to unlock more features. good vid btw
Thanks, man. While it's entirely possible that many of the 5K Ryzen chips have an "extra" CCX (some people having proven it via certain tools), those are most likely disabled by AMD because a validation failure. We've seen this in GPUs and CPUs for years now. Even if it was possible to reverse this, AMD wouldn't allow it on their end as it could make the chips unstable, and would threaten their higher-end chip sales. Both of which would be bad for business.
@@TheTechTank thank you for supporting me 😊...not a gamer im an interior designer....so time really important for me...im using laptop for all my work for years now so i decide to build a pc...after watching tons of review about 5600x and 5800x...i decide to just go with 5800x after watching your review...thank you
@@TheTechTank for me i use SketchUp for 3d, and V-Ray for render, AutoCad for drafting, as well as Photoshop, Ai, Filmora, Blender, Lumion....all these software is really² heavy and using my laptop can take up to 1 hour tp finish just one interior render....while i need to make alteast 10 render for a single project
Building a rig for my guitarist at the moment. He wants to do music production and some gaming. He's new to pc at this level (only ever had crappy hand me down laptops etc) so picking up this cpu at $175 from Amazon paired with 32gb RAM and the 6650xt is going to do him justice.
Great cpu. I havent even touched oc and it stays on gaming load around 4.3 with the icue h150i 240m rad around 50-55°C (at load) awesome cpu. Now if i can get my hands on a 3080
I used MSI's Sekira 500X in this video with all panels removed for unhindered airflow. You don't need a case like that at all. All you need is a case that can fit ATX motherboards, and if you're getting an AIO liquid cooler, you need to make sure the case supports the correct radiator size.
Hey, need help... I can buy 5800x for $169 , second hand,... Should i buy.. Or just grab 5600x for the almost same price.... Which do u recommend.... Thanks for reply..
Bought the 5800x at MC for $300usd, I could instantly feel the difference just because applications load a few seconds faster after upgrading from the 2700x.
Running the ryzen 3600 on a rtx 3090 wondering should i get the ryzen 9 5900? I'm on a msi x570 pro motherboard. I'm not a pc tech use it for gaming mainly.
I am specifically interested in upgrading to run better the rpcs3 emulator and the ryzen 5800x is A tier for thiw games...now i have the 5600x but isnt strong enough for the rpcs3 ...any advice ?? 5800x or 5900x ??
Who's the 5800X for? Me frankly, when I get round to upgrading my 1700 it's an easy drop in part, I only have to flash the PCB BIOS and drop it in. I never felt the 2700 or 3700 series justified the expense(I only paid £80 for the 1700 2 years ago) as while I would notice the upgrade it wouldn't have wowed me where I think the 5800X would be a pretty substantial upgrade.
@@TheTechTank Thanks for that mate, I appreciate a real world perspective from someone that has lived with the tech. I am personally interested in sticking with 8 core so I can judge the single 8 core CCX config(also by definition the 8 cores have all passed binning without faults). Looking forward to upgrading my build into it's final Pokemon evolution now, will increase the RAM to 32GB and add some more SSDs to upgrade my Frankenstein's monster storage solution.
Great Vid, thanks! I'm happy with my R7-5800x, I went from a R5-2600x so I can see a great improvement in my gaming experience, Star Citizen just needs a good CPU.
I actually just got one of these because I was in need of a new cpu, I was hoping for a 5600x but this was all that was available other than iirc a 39 or 5900x, but I live with a budget family so the 5800x was all we could really afford
@@TheTechTank now all I really need is a new cpu cooler and a better gpu, because a gtx 1650 super is probably not the best card for this cpu lmao but it's all I could really afford
i got my 5800x and it cost me only $300, this thing is an absolute beast. im using it with a gen 4 samsung m.2 ssd and my system is so snappy its ridiculous
@@TheTechTank I actually decided for the 5800x after watching this video. Just gotta wait on my old build to arrive with my stuff. Got a new subscriber for the good content bud!
@@trevorhoward6115 get mine on Tuesday. Pairing it with a 6800xt. The 2600x was bottlenecked hard at 3440 x 1440. Don't even ask about 1080p. =)) Let's gooooo
i bought 5800x and i don't know which motherboard should I take ASUS AMD AM4 ROG X570 Crosshair or Asus ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING I'm confused actually and there isn't any video of comparing between them
You really can't go wrong with most of the B550 and X570 boards out there, pretty much all of them should be able to handle the 5800X no problem. If you want to stick with those two premium options, the Crosshair should perform better overall, but the Strix is right up there too.
@@TheTechTank I went from a FX 6300 to the 3600 and boy it's great. If I had a better graphics card I could do 1080p 60 streaming on the CPU without a issue.
I upgraded from a A10 6800k to the 3600 and it's been great, last year right before graphics cards went nuts I moved up from 750ti to 570 4gb version. I've only got a 1080p monitor and it's been fantastic
I upgraded my day one Ryzen 7 1700 to a 5800x a week ago . I use my PC for Gaming and for 3Ds Max Rendering . The difference between zen 1 and zen 3 is MASSIVE ! No regrets on my purchase.
My r7 5800x is comming on wensday picked up for £249 brand-new. Upgrading from an ivy Bridge 3rd gen Intel i73770k. Currently looking at weather to get x570s or b550.
Nice! That's going to be a super worthwhile upgrade! I'd go X570 if you're planning on overclocking your CPU or RAM, but if not B550 will do you just fine.
I just bought a prebuild with an RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5800, 16GB DDR4 3200mhz RAM, 1TB SSD etc... for $1650. Only downsides are a less than stellar CPU cooler (temps 80C all the time while playing CPU heavy games) and a rather lacking rear IO. Other than that what a steal.
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I've recently overclocked my 5800 x to 4.9Ghz one core boost and 4.6 GHz all core. I did this by enabling PBO2 in the BIOS forcing stock boost behavior but reducing the voltages slightly to also reduce heat and power draw. I then increased the offset by 50 megahertz. So ultimately I'm using slightly less power than stock and I've increased the boost clocks. One of the coolest overclocks I think I've ever achieved.
Damn, that's an impressive OC for sure, gonna give that a shot myself. Hopefully you don't just have a golden chip 😂
@@TheTechTank Could you do an update when you try it?
@@TheTechTank I don't really think I do as long as bad temperatures aren't a thing most 5800Xs can achieve 4.85 GHz on their own. I only have a 240 mm water cooler so it's not even that extreme of a cooling solution. I bet you I can hit 5 GHz with some more tuning?
Same as mine, what was the voltage offset you used? im running 15 stable, but i could get 18 with some oddities. my chip hits 4.95 , and 4.6-4.55ghz all core. I'm getting an AIO to see if i cant get it's all core higher than it is currently on air cooling. have you noticed any instabilities with SAM and undervolt/overclocking in PBO?
@@Dj-Mccullough I think I'm running 8 or something I didn't want to sacrifice stability too much I just wanted to be better than stock lol so no I haven't achieved any instability because it's just a modest overclock / undervolt
Thank you for this follow up video. This helped me make my decision between a 5600x and 5800x. I went with a 5800x because the price went down a ton. the 5600x was going for $300 and the 5800x went down to $341 on amazon and walmart. An extra $40 just seemed like a no brainer for a better cpu. If it was an extra $100 to $150 then that would be too much
I bought mine yesterday upgraded from a 2700x it is beautifully superior even at 1440p
That's definitely a no-brainer. Four more threads for 40 bucks? Totally worth it.
$315 on ebay rn
Just picked up a 5800x at microcenter for 299 🤯
@@dsjhonrawlins9313 Worth it man this CPU is a beast
Now that Intel Alder Lake is out, 5800x still makes sense for people who already have an AM4 motherboard which supports it. You can go from a Ryzen 2000 or 3000 series CPU to the 5800x on a B450 board, and be set for the next several years.
It makes sense even to buy into the am4 platform now, for cheap. Alder lake boards are crazy expensive, not to mention the ddr5 dilemma
Preach.
This is me. 100%.
The bottleneck on the 2600x + 6800xt is real.
Just purchased this for my birthday to put in my B450M steel legend. Until I upgrade to a x570, and give the b450M, and 2600x to my wife.
I think the price point was right. And am excited to see the difference.
I have a B450 Mobo currently, planning to get a 5800x . Is it compatible ? no problems whatssoever? Thanks!
@@listorm28 just installed the cpu last night. Be ready to upgrade bios. Super easy process. But yes. Haven't had any issues yet. The thermals are a bit more toasty than a b550 or x570. But it works, and SAM is active paired with a 6800xt
Micro center has the 5800x for 299 right now people.
Is that a good deal ?
Yes.
i was there a week ago and saw that but wasnt planning a new build at the time. I ended up finding a gpu at retail and the sale was over and just bought one off ebay for 315. Hopefully its real. I already have a 5600x build and with the 5800x at a good price i think its worth it.
Bought one for 299 euro during BF sale... was worth it!
I just picked it up today for $350, which is $20 cheaper than they had it posted for online
I think it’s fair that the 5800x can serve as just a little more future-proofing to stretch out your upgrade timeline.
Sure, but futureproofing isn't a sure thing since we can't predict the future. The 5800X will probably still be relevant even five years from now, but so could the 5600X etc. so buying for the sake of futureproofing isn't always the best idea. If that makes sense.
@The Tech Tank is this worth out it now?
I love my 5800x with the RX6800 XT and 64GB ram 4000mhz for music production and graphic artworkd and of cause gaming... Wonderful cpu ;)
I upgraded from Ryzen 3 3600 to the Ryzen 7 5800X this year before the fall season during the prices drops. I picked it up when it was about $340 on Amazon. The stability gained from was noticable once I h fine tuned the OC and RAM. Really grateful for the upgrade. Wishing I told say the same for GPU right now.
You shouldn't have gained any " stability" unless your 3600 was flaky, in which case you RMA. One doesn't upgrade to get "stability".
@user-sq2xh7js5x I know I'm late but maybe he meant it as an increase to fps in games, as someone might see that as more stability since they get higher frames
Damn, just bought mine for 193 Euros on Amazon, i guess waiting really does pay off.
Its $174 right now on amazon lol.
@@CRF250R1521 i got mine 12 hours ago it was on sale for 150 i couldn't resist. just gotten a 100$ amazon card from work as a safety bonus lol so i effectively just got a brand new 5800x for 50 bucks n tax!
Just nabbed a 5800x for $250 today! Was tempted to wait for Ryzen 7000 & Raptor Lake to see what's what, but I recently got my hands on a 3090 that is pretty bottlenecked by my current 6700k. Considering gaming is my main use of my PC, I think I'll be fine with this guy for a few years at the least.
Nice! Yip, don't think you'll feel the need to upgrade again any time too soon.
would you say getting one for $200 rn is a good deal?
5600x is way better :D its cheap for100€, and this future invest its just a placebo :D i also have 5800x anyway. Now I see i made mistake. If i know about that i have 3070 instead of 6700xt
Subscribed for the slow panning frame with cat visible.
Ahah, my plan woked then!
Good content. Hope you get a lot more subs and keep making great content! I've been building PC's for 25 years, but, the last one I built was like over a decade ago. My last pc was actually a laptop that lasted me 7 years (Gigabyte P34Gv2 with i7-4710hq, Nvidia 860m 4gb, 16gb 1600 ram, 256gb SSD). Laptop was a beast! Had to take battery out after a couple years (but I used it as a desktop anyways). The desktop I just built has the 5800x, 32gb 3200 ram, 1tb Gen 4nvme, 1030 2gb (I skimped on the graphics card for now due to pricing. I figured paying $75 over msrp for a lower end card, was better than paying $400 over msrp for a high end card. It is about equal to the 860m I had so it works just fine for me for now). I rarely game anymore, but sometimes I'll open up some cs go, fortnight, cod, or the newer diablo. All work smooth. For video editing, I for sure notice the difference in rendering times; a 1 hour render, now takes like 15 minutes.
Really appreciate that, man! I've actually never owned a notebook with even half the power of your old one 😂 it's the next big upgrade I want to do. Definitely a smart move going with the 1030 until prices come down - I would've done the same. I'd never be able to justify paying the current hyper-inflated prices. At least the rest of your system will be set for many years to come, so when prices do come down you'll be good to go! And yeah the 5800X is a beast for rendering coming from my old 1700.
I completed my new build 3 weeks ago with the 5600x on a MSI x570s Tomahawk along with a Seasonic 850 Platinum psu knowing an upgrade would be in the future. I didn't realize the upgrade would be so quick, the 5800x will be in my mailbox in 3 days. I couldn't resist the 340.00 price tag.
The 5800x is the best gaming chip of the generation. 9600k and other cpu's with 6 cores (no ht) are already showing they bottleneck a 6800xt in the battlefield 2042 beta. my testing suggests that for 1440p gaming, the 5800x and 6800xt are the sweet spot for price, longevity , and performance. Dont try to manually baseclock/multiplier overclock these chips, Undervolt the cpu, then overclock with the pbo settings in bios.
I just got this processor and I have that same graphics card, I’m super excited for the system to be completed
There is a difference between benefiting from a stonger CPU in scenarios that use it, and "bottlenecking" a gpu.
Got a 5800x and a 2070 super my build is running smoooth
just bought this chip. playing vanguard on ultra and the processor reaches a high of 35% lots of headroom to spare. Very happy with the purchase.
Using for almost 8 months. I bought my for £389 and now you can get it £40 cheaper in UK. It’s great cpu, got no regrets and I’m cooling my with Deepcool Gammax 400 and it stays in low to mid 70s while gaming and that’s in NZXT H510 case.
Very good and gpu temp while you are in gaming perfomange ?
got mine a few weeks ago for £273 had to upgrade From ryzen 7 2700 at that price!
@@jamestierney5568 that’s a great price and decent cpu. I couldn’t wait with my upgrade. I was using 3500X 6 cores 6 thread cpu. It was doing ok but was reaching 100% usage when multitasking, never while gaming. Smoothness after upgrade to 5800x was more than noticeable.
@@Ornal64 temperature was a major concern though as it was running very hot. Airflow in case isn't great and only have a wraith prism cooler. Had to use curve optimizer to get temps down and get it running well.
@@jamestierney5568 set up a power profile in windows or bios. You definitely need better cooler.
great information brother! appreciate your time.
bought a pre-built pc about a year ago- and have been thinking it’s about time to upgrading and didn’t know exactly where to start.
this looks like a perfect fit for me! thank you!
You're welcome, man, hope the upgrade goes well!
I'm thinking of buying this CPU right now, this video comes in handy. But one thing I'm considering is emulation, which is consistently ignored by ALL hardware reviewers. You could argue it's included in the "gaming" category, but it has its own specifics. Emulators require different balances of CPU/GPU performance, so seeing some related benchmarks would be really helpful.
Noted. I'll look into whether there are any reliable benchmarks out there for emulation, or at least something similar. I don't recall seeing any from the reviewers I watch either. Kind of weird.
@@TheTechTank It would be like a standard gaming benchmark, you should just test the most popular/demanded games, which are usually the most demanding ones (i.e. Mario Odyssey for Yuzu, Zelda BOTW for Cemu, Uncharted 3/TLOU for RPCS3, Red Dead Redemption for Xenia). I have to confirm it, but I think at least some of these emulators allow you to uncap the FPS, otherwise you will be stuck with the usual 30/60 FPS cap. While this might make games go out of sync and run faster than normal, it's extremely useful for benchmark comparisons.
@@sovo1212 That method along with all of the required prep to properly benhcmark is probably why most reviewers don't do it. It's a ton of effort for something only a small percentage of people will actually care about.
Will the Ryzen 7 5800x paired up with a Geforce Rtx 3060 and 32gb Ram (3200mhz) be good for streaming and gaming and recording/editing simultaneously? Or would I need a ryzen 9 5900x? I'm new to PC and this is what I was planning to go with if you could give me some advice please.
If you can afford the 5900X, that'd be ideal, but if not the 5800X should be more than enough. I use my 5800X for gaming and editing and I haven't run into any issues.
@@TheTechTank understood thank you for the advice
Just bought a bunch of parts and watching vids to feel good about my decision this helped thanks
Lol, sweet sweet validation.
I've been using a 5800X since early January 2022 on my current gaming build(ASUS ROG STRIX B550, RTX 3070, 64GB DDR4). No complaints at all, but I don't really stress it all that much as I mostly play heavily modded Fallout 4 and Skyrim on max settings and a bit of World of Warships now and then.
Bro I already bought a 5800x MSI 3060 ti with Asus rog strix B550-F I haven’t build it yet but I saw some people says it is has heat problems I want to ask u as user is it true? Plus I don’t know what liquid cooler to buy Any advice?
Loving the retrospective take. Noting anchor price is also a good in highlighting how price makes a good product bad.
Had my 5800x in Asus Tuf B550M motherboard for about 2 years now. I make YT videos in 4k and I play some games (mostly Fortnite, CS GO, & Hogwarts Legacy - I have a great Viewsonic 27" 1080x60 monitor - I am oldschool and 1080 looks great to me, and it lets me play 60fps in any game on max settings - I also have a 12" 720p second monitor.). I have 32gb ram, gen 4 NVME, & 3060ti. I kept my last computer for over 7 years. This one is 2 years old, and feels like brand new still. Never in the past could I alt + tab between games and internet browser in a flash; literally instant. Anything I throw at this is so quick to respond. Sure, a 5900x or 5950x would give me a bit faster video rendering times. But from the computer I came from, this is blazing fast (and about 1/3rd the rendering time of my last pc). This has lasted me 2 years, and I expect 5+ more years. I doubt I'll go above 4k for YT videos and personal recordings for many years. And I don't game as hard as I used to, but I like to get a new game here or there. Basically, when I cannot play games at 1080x60 at a constant fps of 60 on medium settings, then I'll build again.
So refreshing to run into someone who upgrades responsibly 😂 I would be surprised if that rig didn't last you at least another five years. I'm rocking a 5800X3D for 4K edits too, and honestly the difference between it and the 7900X in my other rig isn't all that noticeable.
I just bought one that was damaged from eBay. It must have been a younger person or a kid. He stated that it had bent and broken pins. I've felt with that before and had pretty good luck fixing pins so I gave it a chance. I looked at the pictures he sent that were magnified the best he could. I saw a few barely bent pins and no missing ones. I could tell no one had tried to work on it. The chip was pretty much perfect when I got it. I threw it under my magnification and found 3 pins barely bent. It took less than 5 mins to fix it. Works perfect. I don't understand why he didn't try to fix it. I offered it back to him at the same price but he already got a new CPU. I felt kinda bad I bought that chip for 70 dollars and if he would have just taken it to any repair shop they probably would have fixed it for free. He couldn't believe you could fix pins that were bent flat if your careful and replacing a pin is just practice. Get a old CPU and start practicing. You'll save a lot of money if you learn how to work on your own stuff. I've fixed several gpus also that just needed small things but practice soldering before you ever try.
"If biology taught me anything, 9 months can change a lot."
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I already regret that quote 😂
@@TheTechTank I loved it😂😂
@@philxdev More the consuming part, but also true 😂
Just bought one on amazon for $270. Upgrading from an i7 9700f (ik that cpu isn't bad but it's more practical in the long run to buy a new cpu and motherboard than to replace my current motherboard with a better one which is what I wanted to do in the first place)
Congrats on the upgrade. Definitely a better idea to upgrade the board and chip in one go.
got this puppy for myself for 200€ this summer, been loving it since !
Nice! Still an amazing chip.
@@TheTechTank and also very efficient when gaming, in my case it draws about 80 watts
I am also planning to get a 5800x. But I am confused with all the thermal issues, High temps that reviewers mentioned. Is it really a issue? And can you please recommend me a good AIO cooler for the 5800x? Thanks.😊
I'm not having any thermal issues with the chip. The only time I ever ran into higher than normal temps was when I overclocked too high. A 280mm AIO from a reputable brand, or high-end air cooler will handle it just fine.
Thank you again.❤
AMD says that operating temps of 90 C are perfectly normal for this chip. Tho it's easy to undervolt a bit in the BIOS with curve optimizer and reduce temps by around 10 C.
So.e of the first chips for sure we're boosting well over 4.7 closer to 5!! And I'm pretty sure that's why the thermal issues were an "issue" I'll be using a vetroo v5 air cooler in white with a push pull config. I doubt I'll see more than 75 degrees under gaming load from the research I've done
Just got myself a 5800x for 170 USD yesterday. Its been a nice upgrade from my old R5 2400g from my little bit of testing last night. Im excited to see how it performs as time moves on.
You're going to love that chip, congrats on the upgrade!
I recently went for the 5900x and it’s a beast, with a minor overclock I’m doing 4.8ghz most cores with a few cores trying to hit almost 4.9ghz. All at no more then 45-48c under load, and 24-26 idle.
Damn, those temps are insane. Would love to get my hands on a 5900X too one of these days.
Had a 5800x for about 6 months the loved it. My first Ryzen cpu. Tho recently upgraded to the 5950x
The 5950X is a BEAST, big congrats!
@Bry Zeer I care more about the gains I made in Fusion and rendering videos. Some of us do other things than just game.
@Bry Zeer You can thank scalpers for that one buddy. If I had the choice I would have had a Ryzen 9 from the start.
Excellent review, great channel !
Thanks, man!
Great review. Been torn between this chip and the 5600x. Nice to finally see the price coming down. Liked and subbed.
Thanks man! The CPU market is in the process of changing quite a bit in favor of the consumer, so try to hold off on that upgrade for as long as possible, lol.
Was in the same boat then Amazon dropped the price for the 5800x at $341, the drop I needed to pull the trigger.
loved the video thank you! Direct and to the point :) made me feel better about buying one today also lol
Much appreciated! Lol, you should feel great after buying it, depending on the price of course.
Just got one of these for $300 for my brother's PC, so excited to see how it performs this Christmas
I have been struggling with my PC build for literal months, having never built a PC before, this first build was/is truly meant to last me years as I’d been jumping from one mid-end gaming laptop to another, it made sense to just make a space and build a proper powerhouse Desktop.
I was having issues playing on a 5800x, MSI RTX 3080, 64gb (4x8gb) 3600 ram PC, and at some point the heating issue with this CPU got so bad I could barely play low end games on medium settings without struggling. I was distraught and bought more fans to max out the case and reoriented my AIO. Finally having something seemingly normal on FPS for the same settings felt good, but it made no sense, thought I had gotten the worst luck in the silicon lottery.
As it turns out undervolting just saved me so much money and grief as I had been looking at just upgrading to a 5900 or 5950, whatever I could find eventually, to hopefully fix the issue and just max everything as much as possible. My temps are finally reasonable and my system is running buttery smooth as Ryzen and Nvidia intended with max settings on all games I have stored in the ol’ steam library.
My fix was recent, however I quickly came to this same conclusion of “is it actually good?” once seeing how the CPU performed normally and further researching why it ran as hot as it did. I have to say I agree fully in saying that if people are looking for high end performance at a lighter budget then this CPU really does have a good spirit, but its body wasn’t optimized for that, hence the 5900 being the most in demand CPU because it has more SA for heat dissipation. Regardless, 5800 + a simple undervolt and a decent cooler = one hell of a gaming CPU good for people who like to dabble outside of gaming
Really happy you managed to find a fix that worked for you, I've heard others also getting some really good results from undervolting the chip. What AIO are you using? A decent one should be more than enough to keep the 5800X in check... If the cooler's fine, it could've been that your motherboard had MCE on and pushed the chip much higher than it's supposed to go.
This is very important to know since I'm trying to get this chip and I know almost nothing about chips thanks for telling your experience.
Great first video I've seen of your channel. Subbed! I picked this chip up for 199 on Black Friday @ Microcenter. For that price point it was an easy pick even thou there is so many options to pick from these days.
Appreciate that, man! That's a great deal right there - the chip is going to treat you super well for years to come.
Upgrading from a Ryzen 5 2600 - I was going back and forth comparing the 5800X and the 11700K. Ryzen wins in my book because I can update my BIOS on my B450M motherboard and use it as opposed to having to buy a brand new Motherboard for over $150 US for the new intel chipset.
Maybe i9-10850k is a good choice , cheaper as well atleast in my country . As for the motherboard , usually I just do everything all over again when I want to upgrade my pc for say 4-5 years later
lmao good luck, the 5800x has defective lidding. Enjoy the instant 90c clock throttling. Hope you won the lottery.
What do you guys think would happen if I upgraded my 2600x to a 5800x with a 450MoBo & Radeon 580x GPU? I play warzone which is a heavy cpu based game
@@stevebanning902 I got mine setup yesterday and throughout the couple of stress test I manage to make, my 5800x held at 72ºC at 100% usage with all cores hitting 4.65Ghz with an artic 34 esports duo. All of this was achieved with everything in stock ( everything in auto on bios) except for RAM being at 3600mhz cl16. Even right now is sitting at 35ºC as I type this comment 22ºC ambient. So if it reaches 72ºC and I still can improve those temps while gaining a bit more performance, this thing is going to be a beast!
@@mrsuperselenio5694 Looks like you got one of the 20% of the procs that doesn't have issues. Good for you - but I ended up having AMD replace mine with a 5900x... way better.
I got the 5800x at launch and dont regret it, I upgraded from the 3700x due to playing VR on the HTC vive pro and the difference is huge. Was not sure the 5600x would do what I wanted but knew the 5800x would and did not go the 5900x because the word was it was a bit slower due to using 2 chiplets instead of one.
Ryzen 7 5800X.. 40% lesser in price while 30% more Gaming Performance comparing with Intel 11th Generation i7 11700F. Superb.. It was a Good decision to be part of Ryzen Family 🙂
At launch, every reviewer said to go for the 5900x instead if you want something better than the 5600x. But the 5900x was out of stock for ~6 months after launch and when it did eventually become available, the price was inflated. The 5800x on the other hand, was discounted basically from the start because of all the reviews which said not to buy it. I found it was actually the best value of the 3 once the market prices settled.
Wouldn't blame reviewers for that. Impossible to predict exactly what the market will do after a product goes on shelves. Fundamentally when it originally launched the 5800X presented the least value of the three, but I'm very happy that that's not the case anymore.
@@TheTechTank Oh yes of course, not blaming reviewers, based on the MSRP of the three, the reviews at launch were fully justified. Whilst it was acknowledged that the 5800x was a good CPU, it was clear the pricing was not right. I was just meaning that due to low demand for 5800x, the adjustment in the market value was very quick. You could argue this low demand was in part a consequence of the reviews, which is a good thing.
I think I paid £100 under MSRP for my 5800x back in January 2021, because I could not find a 5900x anywhere (It was harder to get hold of than a GPU). The 5600x was also selling above MSRP, at least in the UK.
The reviewers were right, this chip has defective lidding and instantly hits 90c under load and will throttle it's clock speed. If you don't experience this, congrats - you're part of the 10% that didn't have defective lidding.
@@stevebanning902 That is interesting. Do you have any more info or links which go into details on this? I can't say i've noticed any issues but I have a fairly beefy cooler.
@@seismica No because AMD refuses to admit it. I have to undervolt my chip and lose 5% performance just to get it within normal operating temperatures and not max out. In neither situation could I hit max boost speed under load.
I’m going to build my own PC. I’m going with the 5800x and b450 motherboard. I’m just worried that other parts might not support it? What other parts need to be in to support it well enough or is it just motherboard?
Yip, pretty much just the motherboard. You'll want reasonably fast RAM to go with the chip (3200MHz and up), a decent cooler, and a good graphics card to get the most out of it, but you shouldn't be worried about parts not "supporting" it.
Got a full configuration with 5800x,but without a gpu,for £250 :) added an alienware 2k 240hz monitor for £280 and a 3070 msi for £320 and i ve got the best value pc since i ve first started in '98 :) ( yes i m a bargain hunter )
Wow... I like to think I'm a bit of a bargain hunter myself, but I've never gotten deals that good, lol. Congratulations, man!
wow, you're the first reviewer to mention that a CPU with much higher consumption requires more expensive motherboards and coolers (and power supplies as well btw)
much respect
Thanks so much, man! I forgot to mention the power supply requirement, and that should definitely also be a big consideration.
Great video. Easy to subscribe after watching it.
Appreciate that, man!
Went from 3700x to 5800x. I feel like this CPU will serve well for about 5 years... But... I will upgrade before that for sure ahaha!!! I have a dual tower air cooler installed, and the temp tops at 72c-73c at 100% load. My computer case is opened. I have no case-fans running, so, it's very very quiet, unless I load the CPU. The double-CPU-cooler-fans are idling at very low speed, unless I render a video in DaVinci Resolve. Even though the side panel is opened, the case is positioned near a wall (3 inches away) so the inside of the computer is still protected from accidents. Heat dissipates upward by convection. Very silent and efficient.
Oct 2022. Picked up the 5800X for US$269 + a free game. Lots of life in my AM4 board yet.
Packaging changed is it come with cardboard in empty box or plastic instead of Fan ?
Like with most of the chips that don't ship with an included cooler, the box just had a cardboard insert to keep the chip in place.
I just bought one of these upgrading from a ryzen 5 3600. This will be my 4th amd chip and I'm super impressed by them all so far.
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Very awesome review. I just bought one cuz of this review because i wasnt sure about a good processor. Now hopefully Rust can run better than a dust filled vacuum cleaner.
Thanks, man! I'm sure it'll treat you very well in Rust.
@@TheTechTank Np! It has treated me VERY well in Rust! :D
i know im 3 years late but i just built my first pc and this was on sale for like 160 bucks so i picked it up
Perfect timing, tbh, the 5800X is still a solid chip even all these years later, and the pricing is 👌
love mine thanks for the help deciding, got it running at 5.0ghz single 4.7 multi core all day long in and out of game through an undervollt and pbo boost. it also manages to beat the 10900k r23 multi score you list in your video. best of all I caught it on sale for about $220 😁
That's awesome, man! Glad to hear you're loving the upgrade!
This is really helpful in deciding whether or not to buy this CPU. Currently, they’re available for €259,- and I have been looking to upgrade my CPU for a small while now. Guess it’s going to be the 5800X then…
They're really great value right now, even better than when I made this video.
Did you buy it ? Maybe wanting to upgrade my 2700x to the 5800x
Whoa... Antec psu, forgot about them
New viewer here
Love what I'm seeing on your channel so far
Lol, Antec's still kicking around everywhere here in South Africa. And thanks, I really appreciate the kind words!
The 5800x was always the most desirable CPU at the least desirable value in the 5000 series lineup. It os understandable why it was priced high, the full unlocked/functional single CCX was precious to AMD in early in ZEN3 production. These fully finctional CCXs could make them alot more revenue in EPYC chips.
Yo man good video, very professional, clear and concise, I'm surprised u don't have more subs, either way good shit, I recently started getting into PC gaming, I haven't bought anything yet, but I've been researching PC parts and trying to learn all I need to know to make an informed purchase, which understanding what all the parts do is pretty easy, but once I dive in and try to understand the science & manufacturing of it all.....it's fucking crazy, it's like going back to school lol, but right now I'm just trying to find what websites have the best deals for PC parts, because I've never bought a PC idk what the "normal prices" are for anything, I just don't want to get ripped off or spend too much on a part that is valued at half the price I'm buying it at u know?
Thanks so much, dude, really appreciate it. We've all been there, man, it gets overwhelming very quickly. Unless you're super interested in the underlying science and all of that, then you really don't have to dig that deep, lol. Just the basics will get you all the way there. As for where to buy, and how much you should be paying, it largely depends on the country you're in. For instance, here in South Africa because of certain taxes and companies taking their cut throughout the chain, we get completely screwed over when it comes to the cost of electronics.
@@TheTechTank oh dn sorry to hear that, but yea I live in the U.S idk if u would know where to buy from in the states, but if u could recommend any good sites or any community threads that talk about PC part sales/deals that would be great, also when buying PC parts, is there anywhere that tells me what kind of performance it will Garner? Like how many pixels & fps I will get? Or is the only way to get that information, is watching RUclipsrs like u, who have tested it on multiple games?
Honestly, both Amazon and Newegg seem to consistently list parts for the price they "should be selling for". Sometimes prices do go wild with super popular parts, or during shortages like we're seeing right now. GPU prices are still insane pretty much everywhere for instance. I think the Honey browser extension actually has a feature that lets you see the price changes of specific products over time, so you can see what the lowest price for them "should be". PCPartPicker has a more robust version of that: pcpartpicker.com/trends/ Other than that, you might want to keep an eye on the LTT forums. Not sure if they list deals on there or not, but it's probably the best tech forum out there.
There are websites like that that will give you a performance estimate based on certain parts and the games you want to play, but I'm not sure how reliable they are. This one seems like one of the better ones: howmanyfps.com/
@@TheTechTank thanks so much man u went above and beyond with your comment, much appreciated man, have a great day, and I hope your channel grows fast, u deserve it
Waited two years and got mine for $200. Love this CPU and didn't want want to upgrade to the AM4 series yet because i didnt need to.
Getting my r7 5800x today. upgrading from a r5 3600. cant wait to put it in
Nice! I think you're going to be super happy with the upgrade.
I just bought a 5800x but I think I'm going to return it and wait for the Zen 3D V-cache release early next year.
Always smart to wait for next-gen if you're still happy with the performance you already have.
Probably not a good idea with the recent news of a certain cryptocurrency...
thanks for the video, I pulled the trigger on the 5800X today as the current price at Wootware only made it R800 more than the 5600x. no brainer.
Nice, a no-brainer for sure! Woot has some really amazing prices on the Ryzen range.
Thinking of upgrading to this from a 2600, I have a 5500xt so I'm not cpu bottlenecked in most games, (some, I am though.) but it really crumbles when I try to do heavy multitasking like recording at the same time or running multiple games at once (FFXIV & Bluestacks as an example) I have the budget for it over the 5600x and I assume the extra two cores will help with what I want to do
If you're struggling with multitasking, then the 5800X is definitely going to make a much bigger difference than the 5600X. With the SMT, it's more like four extra cores and that's going to help a lot.
Just grabbed one for $270 . Upgrade from a 5 2600 super stoked .
Very nice upgrade, congrats!
Snagged the 5800X for $300 at Microcenter. With the rise of CPU based Crypto mining again, I really don't want to wait another year to upgrade from a 2700X.
Are you satisfied with the 5800x? I just bought one yesterday to replace my 2700x. I upgraded my monitor to a massive Samsung G9 ultrawide in a big holiday sale last last year without fully contemplating how much more demanding that +7K resolution was going to be. Upgrades to 6900XT and 5800x should address that. Hopefully.
i love the shots of the hardware "out in the wild"
😂 The wilds of my backyard, lol. Glad those DANGEROUS shots are being appreciated.
fun fact. a lot of people are unaware including many reviewers that the initial batch of 5800x and 5900x were actual dual ccd versions which AMD later revealed. and there will be a software release which includes a full unlocking of those processors. so the 5800x will ultimated become a 16core and in essence become the epyc version. and the 5900x will become the model higher than the current 5950x. they did it to the specifically the 6900xt gpu. you know the XTX and XTXH variants. i think amd is starting to transition to into using software to unlock more features. good vid btw
Thanks, man. While it's entirely possible that many of the 5K Ryzen chips have an "extra" CCX (some people having proven it via certain tools), those are most likely disabled by AMD because a validation failure. We've seen this in GPUs and CPUs for years now. Even if it was possible to reverse this, AMD wouldn't allow it on their end as it could make the chips unstable, and would threaten their higher-end chip sales. Both of which would be bad for business.
This review will age well, not like the others.
Already bought mine yesterday for my first build....
That's awesome! The 5800X is one hell of a CPU for a first build.
@@TheTechTank thank you for supporting me 😊...not a gamer im an interior designer....so time really important for me...im using laptop for all my work for years now so i decide to build a pc...after watching tons of review about 5600x and 5800x...i decide to just go with 5800x after watching your review...thank you
That's super interesting! What sort of apps does an interior designer use for work?
@@TheTechTank for me i use SketchUp for 3d, and V-Ray for render, AutoCad for drafting, as well as Photoshop, Ai, Filmora, Blender, Lumion....all these software is really² heavy and using my laptop can take up to 1 hour tp finish just one interior render....while i need to make alteast 10 render for a single project
Building a rig for my guitarist at the moment. He wants to do music production and some gaming. He's new to pc at this level (only ever had crappy hand me down laptops etc) so picking up this cpu at $175 from Amazon paired with 32gb RAM and the 6650xt is going to do him justice.
Nice, that's going to be an amazing starter rig!
Great cpu. I havent even touched oc and it stays on gaming load around 4.3 with the icue h150i 240m rad around 50-55°C (at load) awesome cpu. Now if i can get my hands on a 3080
Get a 6800xt so you can get that extra 15% power with SAM.
what computer case did you use? or what specs do i need to fit all the components in?
I used MSI's Sekira 500X in this video with all panels removed for unhindered airflow. You don't need a case like that at all. All you need is a case that can fit ATX motherboards, and if you're getting an AIO liquid cooler, you need to make sure the case supports the correct radiator size.
Hey, need help...
I can buy 5800x for $169 , second hand,...
Should i buy..
Or just grab 5600x for the almost same price....
Which do u recommend....
Thanks for reply..
I'd get the 5800X with proof that it works before buying, but CPUs are usually a pretty safe bet buying secondhand.
For that price I would get the 5800X as more games and applications are taking more and more advantage of multiple cores.
Bought the 5800x at MC for $300usd, I could instantly feel the difference just because applications load a few seconds faster after upgrading from the 2700x.
im also upgrading from a 2700x, is it really worth it?
@@liamsierra3068 If you're sticking with ddr4 and pcie 3.0 for 2-3 years then yes (~$120 to upgrade to b550 pcie 4.0)
I found one on Facebook market for 250, it’s a bit of a drive but is that worth it?
Running the ryzen 3600 on a rtx 3090 wondering should i get the ryzen 9 5900? I'm on a msi x570 pro motherboard. I'm not a pc tech use it for gaming mainly.
I went from an i5 to this and it made me cry how much frames I was getting
I am specifically interested in upgrading to run better the rpcs3 emulator and the ryzen 5800x is A tier for thiw games...now i have the 5600x but isnt strong enough for the rpcs3 ...any advice ?? 5800x or 5900x ??
Who's the 5800X for? Me frankly, when I get round to upgrading my 1700 it's an easy drop in part, I only have to flash the PCB BIOS and drop it in. I never felt the 2700 or 3700 series justified the expense(I only paid £80 for the 1700 2 years ago) as while I would notice the upgrade it wouldn't have wowed me where I think the 5800X would be a pretty substantial upgrade.
100%. I went from the 1700 to the 3800XT, and now the 5800X and the 5800X is a much bigger upgrade than the 3800XT was.
@@TheTechTank
Thanks for that mate, I appreciate a real world perspective from someone that has lived with the tech. I am personally interested in sticking with 8 core so I can judge the single 8 core CCX config(also by definition the 8 cores have all passed binning without faults). Looking forward to upgrading my build into it's final Pokemon evolution now, will increase the RAM to 32GB and add some more SSDs to upgrade my Frankenstein's monster storage solution.
@@darthwiizius Sounds like quite the beastly rig you're perfecting there! My social links are in the description if you want to show that puppy off.
Umm please give me more cat b roll😍 great video my guy!
Appreciate it, man! I've been adding more and more of it into each video 😂 the "actors" just make it a little difficult, lol.
I love it, little kitty meow meow🥺
@@TheTechTank 🤣🤣I feel that! My dogs have a strong sense of awareness when I bust the camera out
My dogs and one of the cats love joining me for outdoor b-roll, but catching them in just the right spots requires WAY too much luck, lol
Great Vid, thanks! I'm happy with my R7-5800x, I went from a R5-2600x so I can see a great improvement in my gaming experience, Star Citizen just needs a good CPU.
Star Citizen looks amazing, but the learning curve looks a little too steep for me 😂
I actually just got one of these because I was in need of a new cpu, I was hoping for a 5600x but this was all that was available other than iirc a 39 or 5900x, but I live with a budget family so the 5800x was all we could really afford
Well that 5800X should keep you very happy for a good number of years, so a solid investment I say.
@@TheTechTank now all I really need is a new cpu cooler and a better gpu, because a gtx 1650 super is probably not the best card for this cpu lmao but it's all I could really afford
@@officialrhythmicthoughts Oof. The GPU struggle is going to be real in this market. Would hold off on that upgrade until next year.
@@TheTechTank yeah, the 1650 super is still a good card tho
For sure, should hold you over just fine until the next upgrade.
So i basically got the ryzen 7 5700x and i need a recommendation for a good cpu cooler and im on a budget😌 what do u recommend
I've seen many great reviews on the Thermalright Peerless Assassin, definitely worth looking into for the price.
i got my 5800x and it cost me only $300, this thing is an absolute beast. im using it with a gen 4 samsung m.2 ssd and my system is so snappy its ridiculous
That's awesome to hear man! And a very decent price too!
They now cost 300 euro, which is cheaper than the 5600x at launch. So i couldnt resist :)
Just landed a 5800X for $380 bux to update my 2 year old 3800X ... totally worth it.
Nice!
I’m upgrading from a 3700x to either the 5800x or 5900x. For the price I might go with 5800x
@@THESouthernBuckeye87 5900X is overkill unless you need the additional threads for video editing etc.
@@TheTechTank I actually decided for the 5800x after watching this video. Just gotta wait on my old build to arrive with my stuff. Got a new subscriber for the good content bud!
this wasss soo helpful Ty
Upgrading from a 2600 to the 5800x!! I absolutely can't wait to get it installed!!
Same, plus a 3060 from my RX 580. Excited for the upgrade!
@@michaelman315 nice! I got lucky and bought a 5700xt right at launch for $400
@@trevorhoward6115 did you get it installed, do you like it?!
@@pistolkrystle it's supposed to arrive in the mail today!
@@trevorhoward6115 get mine on Tuesday. Pairing it with a 6800xt. The 2600x was bottlenecked hard at 3440 x 1440. Don't even ask about 1080p. =)) Let's gooooo
My 5800x works stably at 4.7Ghz on all cores at 1.275v and the test Cinebench23 will produce 16037 pts :р
Beautiful 👏
I reach the same 4.7 with PBO settings, just power targets + curve optimiser. Cinebench scores around the same.
Will this CPU be good with some budget range for using Unreal engine 5 whats your opinion? Im building new pc...
I just bought this and I have a nh15. Will it be cool enough?
The Noctua Nh-d15? Absolutely.
i bought 5800x and i don't know which motherboard should I take ASUS AMD AM4 ROG X570 Crosshair or Asus ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING I'm confused actually and there isn't any video of comparing between them
B550 Tomahawk would do just fine.
You really can't go wrong with most of the B550 and X570 boards out there, pretty much all of them should be able to handle the 5800X no problem. If you want to stick with those two premium options, the Crosshair should perform better overall, but the Strix is right up there too.
I have a 3600 now and I am happy with it.
I've been meaning to pick one of those up for my HTPC setup for a while now, would be an amazing upgrade from the current i5 4440 😂
@@TheTechTank I went from a FX 6300 to the 3600 and boy it's great. If I had a better graphics card I could do 1080p 60 streaming on the CPU without a issue.
I upgraded from a A10 6800k to the 3600 and it's been great, last year right before graphics cards went nuts I moved up from 750ti to 570 4gb version. I've only got a 1080p monitor and it's been fantastic
@@Dariushellstrome My one school mates brother have one of those RX 470 4GB cards and they are real nice for the 1080p.
I upgraded my day one Ryzen 7 1700 to a 5800x a week ago . I use my PC for Gaming and for 3Ds Max Rendering . The difference between zen 1 and zen 3 is MASSIVE ! No regrets on my purchase.
Nice! I had basically the same upgrade path, though there was a 3800XT in the middle for a few months. Definitely a huge difference.
My r7 5800x is comming on wensday picked up for £249 brand-new. Upgrading from an ivy Bridge 3rd gen Intel i73770k.
Currently looking at weather to get x570s or b550.
Nice! That's going to be a super worthwhile upgrade! I'd go X570 if you're planning on overclocking your CPU or RAM, but if not B550 will do you just fine.
Just got a 5800x a year after this video for $209 new. Very hype for this upgrade from my 3600
That's going to be a very nice upgrade indeed, and a great deal too!
does the B450 work with this CPU? I have a PSU of about 800W
Most B450 boards should support it, but some of them will need a BIOS update before.
Going for $199 at micro center, should I buy it?
Decent price. You could wait for it to drop more during upcoming sales, or grab it now.
I just bought a prebuild with an RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5800, 16GB DDR4 3200mhz RAM, 1TB SSD etc... for $1650. Only downsides are a less than stellar CPU cooler (temps 80C all the time while playing CPU heavy games) and a rather lacking rear IO. Other than that what a steal.
Definitely not a bad price, and the temps, while not great, shouldn't be too much of a problem. Glad to hear you're happy with the system!
They beat intel in gaming, productivity AND power draw.
Great channel mate!
Thanks! Looking forward to the coming generation! Should be some game changing stuff coming from both sides.
Great pairing for a 7800XT, loving mine. A bit toasty though.
Got a 5700X for 180$. For that price its really good value. I overclocked it past the 5800x and its performing like a champ.
is the 5800x not still getting too hot ? better the 5700x right?