I replaced my 3900X with a 5800X. Some ppl may consider this a dumb move, but I noticed that I didn't really utilize 12 cores (even video editing doesn't), and I wanted to sell the 3900X while I could still get a decent amount of money for it. Bought the 5800X for 370€ and sold the 3900X for 299€ (270 after ebay fees). The 5800X is noticeably faster in single core tasks, like saving large .png files.
I did the same thing, as my needs changed from workload to gaming, and are having a better experience. Bought my 5800x for 399$ and sold my 3900x for 350$ :D
I can say for sure that the 5800X is worth it. I usually like to game and watch streams, videos and use other software or so forth while I'm gaming which has been made possible with the 5800X. A fantastic CPU. Also the price difference between the 5800X and 5600X has shrinked and it only cost 70 dollars more for me to purchase the 5800X. I'd consider that a steal
Something that most users aren't aware of is that modern CPUs are very good at allocating resources in multi-tasking situations. Traditionally video rendering was a task that pegged your CPU at 100% usage and made it difficult to use the machine for other stuff. Today you can play games without any framerate drops while the CPU is churning through an all-core workload like rendering in the background. Even with a six core the computer doesn't turn into a stuttery mess when everything is pegged. It's great.
@@jimtekkit Had an old Intel Core i5 4460 with a clock speed of 3.2 GHz before my current 5800X processor and the difference is out of this world comparing the two at multi tasking. Yes, I know that it's not a fair comparison at all but it's just remarkable to see the difference.
@@jimtekkit crazy thing my 5 2600 is a great example of this . 32 g ram 3600 it’s actually a multi tasking beast . I just grabbed a 5800x for my new 3060 ti build I wonder how much a difference having a 5800x will be . My build rn is 1660 ti ryzen 5 2600
@@livedreamsg if you can get it for $300 then you do you…I’ve seeing it posted everywhere for $400. The AMD has 32MB of L3 cash meanwhile that Intel only has 16MB. I had to pull the trigger quickly because I got selected for a 3080 in the shuffle.
@@livedreamsg the 5800x is a generally faster cpu while also using less power and the igpu for any serious rig doesn't matter, it's not like you can game on intels igpu even if you can't find an actual gpu. Also, for anyone else that doesn't have a microcenter, the 5800x and 11700k are generally priced very similarly.
I picked up one of these on Amazon a few days ago for about €300, should be arriving in a day or two. It will be a nice upgrade from my 3600, since it seems to be almost twice as fast. Obviously it will still be pretty much the same gaming experience, today, but it will be a nice boost for general desktop stuff. Installing games, opening programs, unzipping, etc, and it's a bit of futureproofing.
Just got my 5800x a couple days ago, set my core ratio to auto and the cpu voltage to 1.2 and went from battlefield V at 4K 144+ fps at 90c under full load to 70-75c 4K 144+ fps. Tried setting core ratio to 4.4 and core voltage to 1.25 but temps where’s between 80 and 85 so I dialed down a little bit more and found my perfect settings. The cpu is amazing, but you need serious cooling to use it at its full potential.
made the switch from a 7 2700x with a b450 to the 5800x and boy is it a game changer for my frames, getting 20% extra on average. just had to update the firmware on my b450 mobo and I was off to the races. got it for £360 as well which I think is a good price for a part like that.
The 5800X wasn't a great purchase at launch, but at least it aged like wine. The heat issue can now be fixed with the curve optimizer, and it isn't as overpriced as it was at release.
A benchmark with Bannerlord! Surprised to see the 3900x losing to 5800x since I was under the impression that Bannerlord is capable of using a lot of threads efficiently, but that's why we have benchmarks :V
Yea it’s because Zen 3 single core performance is just leaps better than Zen 3. Over 30% faster in some cases. Having 16 very fast threads versus 24 threads that are 30% slower the 5800X not only beats the 3900X in games that want few fast single cores but also most games that can use all of their cores. Amazing chip. AMD did a great job on improvements going from Zen 2 to Zen 3. Can’t wait to see what Zen 4 looks like.
Picked one up from Microcenter a couple of weeks ago for $349.99 USD. The $100 discount made it a no brainer over the 5600x. Couldn't be happier with this CPU.
Just got a 5800x to replace my 2700x. Still using my old Vega64 so I doubt I'll see massive gains in gaming until I can afford a newer GPU. Was going to go for the 5900 but it wasn't available. Chomping at the bit. Still waiting for my cooler to arrive on Tuesday. Phanteks glacier one 360 aught to keep Temps in check. Nice look at performance. Thanks! So excited, I don't often get the chance to upgrade my tech.
picked up a 5800x 2 days ago in Ontario and got it for $300 with taxes it is on sale right now at Canada Computers for $265 i believe so if you want one and live in Canada act now before the sale ends. Just thought i would put that out there for anyone interested. I am aware this review is 2 years old i am posting this on June 27th 2023.
@@tomthegamer4227 i upgraded from an i5 7400 and gtx 1060 3gb to a 5800x and a 3060ti and its at least 5 to 8 times more efficient in every single thing i do, its insane
@@5651337 i use an ID Cooling zoomflow XT 240mm aio, and without undervolting or anything i idle at 32c° and go to the low 40c° when gaming unless its cpu intensive, then it stays arround 55c°. and when i export videos on cpu, on constant 100% load i dont surpass 78c°. Apparently i got a good chip though, many people dont experience the same temperatures. my case has good airflow and its on a ventilated area, most of the time with ac at 24°c Room temps.
Just in case anyone else is looking for a 5800X the average price on eBay(UK) is £300, I picked mine up for £275 with some haggling + original purchase receipt so I'm covered for warranty in the future. Dude shop around first!
@@sam-dn9hr ah ok that makes sense, sorry I thought you bought it last week! But yea great to see prices dropping, pretty chuffed with the deal too, look forward to setting up new PC
I did the same thing when the 5800x got first released due to having the HTC vive pro and I have not been disappointed! it is def a noticeable upgrade from my 3700x, I also bought the x570 tomahawk to pair with it.
I just wanted to say that this video was very well done, I recently had to cave and buy a prebuilt computer from HPs Omen line (shameful I know) it comes with a 3060ti paired with a 5800x for right around $1500, considering some GPUs are going for that price alone I thought it was about the best deal I was gonna get. Anyways, I’m much more happy with my purchase now, knowing that this config could nearly keep up with the more expensive intel variant I was looking into. Just waiting for it to be delivered to my local store now. Thanks again and cheers man!
Totally would recommend an Arctic Liquid Freezer II (360 ideally). But you can undervolt it and not throttle your chip. Remember, they’re rated up to 90(Celsius) operating temps. Not ideal at all but just remember that. Refer to this persons post sampling different methods, and ultimately manually undervolting 5800x not only improved temps, but in turn, improved the cinebench score. Unaware of their cooling solution, but a good case/cooling setup should be adequate. It’s mainly undervolting www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jrccrt/5800x_temps_whats_going_on/?sort=controversial
I have mine undervolted with a kraken x73 and don’t get temps higher than 55C in games with performance at the same or better than stock so no not with a good cooler
Room temp does matter a lot. I've reached 95c with the 110f (43c) heatwave striking at my house (I didn't turn AC for a while). Normally at 72f I would get 26c at idle and 67c at most.
5800x is a freaking toaster, though i only find it to shoot up in temps when doing very specific tasks, ive read other people saying their 5800x goes right to 80°c just by opening normal apps. i have to encode video to make it go that hard...
I've had the 5800x with my Gigabyte Aorus X570 board and it's running like a champ. Undervolted to 1.25 and with the NZXT Z63, I'm getting idle in the 38-42C range and 68-70C when doing productivity/gaming (~4.6Ghz). Fantastic CPU!
thats weird, your cpu might be heating more than normal or you should try to get a little bit more airflow in your case. right now im on stock settings, no undervolting, no overclocking. boosting at 4.5ghz at arround 75 c° and idling at 28-32c° with an id cooling zoomflow XT 240 aio
@@ignajara I think I have good airflow but I do run a more aggressively quiet fan curve when not doing something like gaming/video editing. I have two 140mm BeQuiet fans at the top, one 120mm rear exhaust and then the two 140mm fans in the front blowing into the rad. I'm now hitting 4.725-4.75Ghz when gaming and the temps are right at 67-70 degrees with mild fan noise (I made a few fan curve changes). I'm pretty happy with the results.
Nice. My "golden" core isn't even stable "stock" at 4.85 GHz (With a clean BIOS the CPU boosts to that value on its own). Had to add 5 counts through PBO2...All core is at 4.65 GHz though.
@@accordracin96 well my cooler is a Kraken x62 and my case is just some generic corsair case I got for 50 dollars, my pc looks plain on the outside but the inside is pretty nice. I am also using a Asus x570 gaming pro motherboard.
@@McCarthy880 really? I went on reddit and saw that a decent amount of people managed to get 5ghz on the 5800x chip out of the box with liquid coolers, I think the only ryzen chips that would need liquid nitrogen to get 5ghz are the past generations.
In April, Micro Center had $50 off coupons on the 5800X and the 5600X (as well as two Intel CPUs). I picked up a 5800X for $269 ($30 cheaper than the 5700X at the time) and a 5600X for $159 ($20 less than the 5600). I saved $20 off each motherboard when I purchased them in a Mobo/CPU combo, and I saved another 5% off the entire purchase when I used my Micro Center credit card. It was an in-store only deal, but I couldn't pass it up. The prices are currently $299 and $199 respectively, although if I was looking to buy today, I would probably go for the 5700X ($249) or the 5600 ($149) as their prices have dropped even more since April.
5900x costs 450$ 5800x costs 200$ in my country.Norway. I found the 5800x was dropping performance in games when it peaks 70 Celsius.Ryzen says the cpu works best at high temps,but naaaa...underclocking makes wonders with this cpu!!
I got mine for 350. Just got a custem desktop. Have been told it gets hot so I have been saving up for water cool and a few more fan's. I have a huge case.
If you look elsewhere the power draw is set too high for the chip. Something like 145 when it should be 105. Not sure why this happened, but some other youtubers have changed the TDP and fixed the thermal issues without harming performance.
@@accordracin96 seems to work better. I just built a system with a 5800x and temps are totally fine. Granted I am running a 1660 super, so I’m GPU bottlenecked on most games anyways.
@@SodiPopMedia AMD has set it to 142W. That's default power limit for AMD 105W TDP processors. All of them. TDP is not max power on any CPU expect Threadripper and server stuff. They should have made 5800X 95W TDP(128W PPT) but I suspect AMD needed to include as many dies as possible due production problems. I've seen pretty bad 5800X samples.
@@kognak6640 I bought a 5800x and a MA612 Cooler Master cooler (it's a single tower push/pull air cooler) in August. I've had not thermal issues at all. I made sure I updated the chipset drivers and had the newest BIOS for my board. Not sure if that makes a diff. or not.
I just bought one for 244 and honestly although I shouldn't have upgraded since I have a 5600x honestly I am looking forward to having those 2 extra cores and it's gonna work absolutely amazing with the new AMD cards that are coming out
My buddy is building a pc right now wet just had this discussion last night I said 5600x usually is a much better value but if you can catch a sale on the 5800x then snag it But you need to remember the thermals and power consumption are quite a bit higher which probably means investing in a higher priced case/cooling solution and a more powerful psu So it’s not just about the cost of the cpu itself
I got one of these. It scores higher in cinebench r23 than a threadripper 1950x in multicore, insane. (benchmarked in safe mode). Also with - 30 PBO curve it hits 4.85ghz single core and 4.7ghz all core, with temps not exceeding 80c
I’ve got a 5800X too, but have been a little shy with my OC settings. If it’s not too much trouble can you describe your BIOS settings to maintain those clock speeds? I haven’t really dove into PBO modifications.
@@Animosity00 Overclocking the ryzen actually helps it long term. Look up 5800x oc guide on yt. For me it's the first video, white back ground, and like 5 minutes. It will make your cpu -10c cooler and boost your clocks.
Just ordered mine for $239 on a flash sale on Newegg to replace my 3700X. That's almost 50% off MSRP so I am super happy about that. It's gonna be paired with a XFX RX 6750 XT so hopefully I'll get some good performance
Just came across your channel through this video. I would be really interested to see the follow up OC video you mentioned, are you still planning on bringing it out?
help! I need cpu advice. i just had a computer built for me to handle photo and video editing needs and presumed it would be super fast with the specs i got. cpu: ryzen 7 5800x, mb: msi mpg x570 gaming edge, gpu: rtx 3060, ram: ballistix 32gb 3600mhz, drive: m.2 nvme samsung 980 pro. Whenever i do anything slightly intensive (export edited photos or make photo adjustments in advanced program), the cpu maxes out at 100% the whole time. I didn't expect that from these specs after reading about how well this cpu handles things. Suggestions? I even did basic overclock to 4.7ghz but get the same issue. I was told it can hit 5.0ghz but can't get the cpu there. Would getting a Ryzen 9 make much difference?
May I know the softwares you are using for photo &vdo editing? i have a r9 3900x paired with 3070 and 32gb of ram but the 5800x is a very capable cpu for the task you are referring
you stated that you were going to explore pbo 2 and curve optimizer in another video. However, your scores indicate you already did the tuning for this video lol. Hitting peak frequencies of 5ghz and averaging 4.8ghz in game, and hitting those synthetic bench numbers is not stock behaivor. Eitherway, the cpu is awesome.
5800x sounds like an excellent CPU for a general purpose and gaming PC. If I were doing a MiniITX build, I’d go with one of those. And a midrange GPU (when they are priced normally again). I think a 6c8t CPU is a bit light for future-proofing 3 or 4 years, whereas the 5800x should work nicely. For the Intel route, if I wanted something comparable, I’d go 10900K with the understanding that the TDP will likely be significantly higher.
I love my upgraded ITX for dev stuff. Runs VMs pretty fine and can open up two unity projects effortlessly. I was little wotried about teml, but turns out it was the climate affecting it a lot.
The thing about future proofing is that you can lower graphics and you'll coast by just fine I've yet to run into a game I straight up can't play with my shitty 6 year old i3-6100, GTX 1050 Ti and 8GB of RAM build but I'd obviously love to get more performance which is why I'm looking to upgrade soon So it also depends on how much you're willing to compromise in terms of the settings too to determine how future proof something is. Had I gotten a good i7 and maybe a 1080 back in the day I dunno if I'd be looking to upgrade just yet But that said, damn I'm kinda looking for excuses to justify grabbing a 5800X instead of a 5600X myself because I really don't need one but I just want one. The main thing stopping me is the price difference being rather big and the slight concern over the thermals, though my planned cooler shouldn't have an issue with that I don't think
@@marieantoine NZXT Kraken X53 with a top mounted radiator. I would like to provide more details but my comments all disappeared within seconds of posting.
I just bought one of these in 2022 for $349.99. This should be a pretty big improvement over my R5 2600 I'm using right now. New chip will be here in 3 days 😁
I’m looking for a cpu that fits well with the rog strix rtx 3080 oc or even 3090 oc for future gpu upgrade without any bottlenecking. My job most of the time is with a lot of heavy excel files, power bi and python. The second purpose is for best gaming performance. Is the 5600x enough and great with those gpu or a 5800x would be better?
For those high end GPUs, I'd go with the 5800X, more and more games will perform best on 8 core CPUs in the coming years. It also has the best single core performance and will do great in office applications.
Running this cpu with an 360AIO (Galahad ) benchmark r20 76C, 6321multi and 674single score. Room temp around 30C without AC on. 4400mhzcl19 4x8gb ram tuned to 3800mhz cl14(patriot steel viper) aorus 550 pro ac Mainbaord.
Just ordered one for €299. Just €15 more than the current price of the 5600x. Would have preferred an apu with better gpu and cpu performance than the 5700G is currently offering, so here’s to hoping that zen 3+ doesn’t put it to shame in a couple of months!
i got it and i don't want aio and when rendering it got to 90 degrees my specs cooler master 212 hyper black edition rgb double fans (i bought another fan for it ) i have 3 cooler master fans in the front 2 case fan one back and one top both exhaust b550 msi carbon wifi mother board 850 PSU my case air cooler clearance is 158mm my room temps is 23c degrees as i work A/C all the time if you can help me or recommend me what to do whether i buy another cooler or CPU and sell the 5800x i don't want to undervolted cause i'm not expert plus i saw couple of videos and i didn't like the results at all
Snagged a perfect condition with all packaging used one for $180. The seller upgraded to the 3D. Sold a 3700x for my asking price $160. Wanted to just go to 5600 for $3 out of pocket. The 5600 didn’t show up the day it was supposed to. Saw a 5800x on a local ad for $180. 5600 wasn’t opened and getting RMA’d. $17 more for a 5800x was worth it for the long term as this is a secondary PC with a 1080ti. At some point my main rig 6700xt will end up in this system. It’s my living room console / HTPC.
I've been running my 5800x since launch OCd 24/7 at 4.6 all cores no issues. Temps are at 35c idle ,70c max in stress tests, and low 50s in games with a Dark Rock Pro 4 cooler. If you can grab one for $399 or less I think its a deal. I upgraded from a 3800x...yes it was worth the upgrade!
@@Frey_64 It's not actually worth it to OC the 5800X. An all-core OC will prevent the single core boost, and that's really what helps with gaming performance. With PBO enabled, the 5800X can boost up to 5 GHz on some cores, but it won't do that if you apply an all-core overclock. Also stock all core boost already reaches 4.6 GHz. What you can do is try to undervolt which will lower temps and improve boosting behavior (it's not complicated, straightforward BIOS settings) tho for my chip it was not fully stable. The mobo I'm using is the Asus ROG B550 Gaming-F (non-Wifi), tho you can go cheaper, just make sure you find a review that tells you how good VRMs are. I cool it with a Scythe Fuma 2.
@@azmc4940 Thanks for the response, very good info there, you convinced me to not worry about OC :D. I think I'll go for a b550 msi bazooka or gaming, all the reviews says vrms are nice and cool
@@accordracin96 Running stock plenty fast here, just got my ram manually 3800 CL14 1900 Fclk 4x8GB ddr4, under full load all cores 79C maximum cpu voltage range from 0.224V to 1.472V according to HWinfo64
@@10GreenDragon10 - Thanks for the reply. Stock I was getting 1.512V and temps around 72-74C but this was in video games (which I mainly use the PC for).
I'm running a R 3900x on a x570 mbo w/ 32 gb ram @ 3200 mhz w/XFX 6700 xt gpu, using 1400p, 165 mhz, 1ms monitors. At this point this build is very fine. Good review, thanks Dannyz!
Just stumbled on this video and i have to say you did very good job, very well written script and consistent results :) Even though i have 5950x i can always have some time for good benchmark video. Here in EU 5800x price has stabilized, usually its around 430€ tax included and sometimes drops to 400€. 370-400 imo is decent and its worth to consider it, earlier this year when it was around 450-490$ was just too much imo. What puzzles me is my 5950x temps, i have paired it with crosshair hero 8 motherboard and nh-d15 chromax cooler. Im running with stock settings and docp enabled but i get significantly higher temps, during gaming i get around 80-85c during gaming workloads and around 75-80c when benchmarking in cinebench, my clocks due to temps are quite lower than your 5900x or 5800x, when gaming it usually sits at 4.55-4.6ghz. im now on second sample of my 5950x (which i had to return due to being faulty) and i get same temps, cooler mounted properly and seals are removed and thermal paste is applied manually and spread across whole cpu ihs, been building pc's for years now:) I came to the conclusion that it might be because of my asus mb bios set up defaults might cause this or possibly due to my ram because its dual rank, 4 sticks of samsung b-die 64gb kit, which might stress cpu memory controller but im just speculating at this point :/
Thermals on this chip are higher than your listing. I have tried a Noctua NHD-15 to custom cooling and the thermals I am seeing are always higher than your listing.
Amazon has this for $359. Best Buy price matched and I had a $50 gift card so I just got this for $310. STEAL!! Nice upgrade from my 2700x. I had to lower the voltage to keep the temps under 70 degrees at 100% load but no performance sacrifice.
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I replaced my 3900X with a 5800X. Some ppl may consider this a dumb move, but I noticed that I didn't really utilize 12 cores (even video editing doesn't), and I wanted to sell the 3900X while I could still get a decent amount of money for it. Bought the 5800X for 370€ and sold the 3900X for 299€ (270 after ebay fees).
The 5800X is noticeably faster in single core tasks, like saving large .png files.
I did the same thing, as my needs changed from workload to gaming, and are having a better experience. Bought my 5800x for 399$ and sold my 3900x for 350$ :D
@@F1REBEARD Nice swap you did there :-)
@@azmc4940 not that bad :D
I can say for sure that the 5800X is worth it. I usually like to game and watch streams, videos and use other software or so forth while I'm gaming which has been made possible with the 5800X. A fantastic CPU. Also the price difference between the 5800X and 5600X has shrinked and it only cost 70 dollars more for me to purchase the 5800X. I'd consider that a steal
Something that most users aren't aware of is that modern CPUs are very good at allocating resources in multi-tasking situations. Traditionally video rendering was a task that pegged your CPU at 100% usage and made it difficult to use the machine for other stuff. Today you can play games without any framerate drops while the CPU is churning through an all-core workload like rendering in the background. Even with a six core the computer doesn't turn into a stuttery mess when everything is pegged. It's great.
@@jimtekkit Had an old Intel Core i5 4460 with a clock speed of 3.2 GHz before my current 5800X processor and the difference is out of this world comparing the two at multi tasking. Yes, I know that it's not a fair comparison at all but it's just remarkable to see the difference.
@@jimtekkit crazy thing my 5 2600 is a great example of this . 32 g ram 3600 it’s actually a multi tasking beast . I just grabbed a 5800x for my new 3060 ti build I wonder how much a difference having a 5800x will be . My build rn is 1660 ti ryzen 5 2600
Considering this is my first build. Paid $400 for it, should be fun. I checked out the benchmarks and it seemed like the best bang for buck to me.
The price has dropped to $350 now on Microcenter!
Not so sure about it though, as I can get the 11700K there for $300 and it has an integrated GPU.
@@livedreamsg if you can get it for $300 then you do you…I’ve seeing it posted everywhere for $400. The AMD has 32MB of L3 cash meanwhile that Intel only has 16MB. I had to pull the trigger quickly because I got selected for a 3080 in the shuffle.
@@livedreamsg I mean ye sure, but are u ever going to use that integrated graphics? I have never used it, especially intels since it sucks at gaming.
@@livedreamsg the 5800x is a generally faster cpu while also using less power and the igpu for any serious rig doesn't matter, it's not like you can game on intels igpu even if you can't find an actual gpu.
Also, for anyone else that doesn't have a microcenter, the 5800x and 11700k are generally priced very similarly.
just got a b550 gigabyte and ryzen 7 5800x for 300eur, life is good man
I picked up one of these on Amazon a few days ago for about €300, should be arriving in a day or two. It will be a nice upgrade from my 3600, since it seems to be almost twice as fast. Obviously it will still be pretty much the same gaming experience, today, but it will be a nice boost for general desktop stuff. Installing games, opening programs, unzipping, etc, and it's a bit of futureproofing.
Imagine going from a FX8320e to a Ryzen 5800x? From a R7 370 to a RTX 3070? This build is going to be fun and satisfying!
Nice! :)
Same here love my new build
Just got my 5800x a couple days ago, set my core ratio to auto and the cpu voltage to 1.2 and went from battlefield V at 4K 144+ fps at 90c under full load to 70-75c 4K 144+ fps. Tried setting core ratio to 4.4 and core voltage to 1.25 but temps where’s between 80 and 85 so I dialed down a little bit more and found my perfect settings.
The cpu is amazing, but you need serious cooling to use it at its full potential.
made the switch from a 7 2700x with a b450 to the 5800x and boy is it a game changer for my frames, getting 20% extra on average. just had to update the firmware on my b450 mobo and I was off to the races. got it for £360 as well which I think is a good price for a part like that.
Watching this now makes me glad I waited to build my new system til a few weeks ago. Got a 3070 oc for 400 and a 5800x for 230.
Just bought one earlier today for 369.99. Couldn't pass it up for the price.
Same
Where did you get one for that low of price?
@@LegionGamingTV Probably Microcenter.
@@LegionGamingTV I bought it from micro center when they first lowered the price.
@@jellyfishedx nice! I'm enjoying this middle child chip haha
Got 5800X for £389 nearly 4 months ago and I don't regret. Great gaming CPU. This is good time to pick one up.
Well done. You definitely deserve more subscribers for this quality of work. Gl!
Recently got it for £200, very very satisfied so far!
i payed 200 bucks for this in black friday, seems like an awesome deal tbh
The 5800X wasn't a great purchase at launch, but at least it aged like wine. The heat issue can now be fixed with the curve optimizer, and it isn't as overpriced as it was at release.
Hey I just got a 5800x. What do you mean by curve optimizer
i got this for 180 dollars brand new on amazon the price last year is ridiculous.
A benchmark with Bannerlord!
Surprised to see the 3900x losing to 5800x since I was under the impression that Bannerlord is capable of using a lot of threads efficiently, but that's why we have benchmarks :V
Yea it’s because Zen 3 single core performance is just leaps better than Zen 3. Over 30% faster in some cases. Having 16 very fast threads versus 24 threads that are 30% slower the 5800X not only beats the 3900X in games that want few fast single cores but also most games that can use all of their cores. Amazing chip. AMD did a great job on improvements going from Zen 2 to Zen 3. Can’t wait to see what Zen 4 looks like.
I just bought a 5800x for $340 and the 5600x was selling for $299, seemed like a no-brainer to buy the 5800x.
the 5800x is now 319 and the 5600x is 209 now
@@jacobmontes5000 is it worth to go for the 5800x at that price range or still the 5600x
Picked one up from Microcenter a couple of weeks ago for $349.99 USD. The $100 discount made it a no brainer over the 5600x. Couldn't be happier with this CPU.
Got one on Friday from Best Buy for $369. Since the nearest Micro Center is a 200 mile trip one-way, this was a no-brainer too.
A year later and it's now down to $239 on Newegg. Almost 50% off MSRP
5800x has been getting a lot of deals around $349 and even one where it dropped to $319, crazy good stuff.
i've been running on a 5800x since early march with the 2080 Super I got last February, and Have been very satisfied. (Up from a 2600X, for reference)
Same boat, upgrading from a 1600 tho.
Just got a 5800x to replace my 2700x. Still using my old Vega64 so I doubt I'll see massive gains in gaming until I can afford a newer GPU.
Was going to go for the 5900 but it wasn't available. Chomping at the bit. Still waiting for my cooler to arrive on Tuesday. Phanteks glacier one 360 aught to keep Temps in check.
Nice look at performance. Thanks! So excited, I don't often get the chance to upgrade my tech.
i came from a R5 2600 to this CPU.
picked up a 5800x 2 days ago in Ontario and got it for $300 with taxes it is on sale right now at Canada Computers for $265 i believe so if you want one and live in Canada act now before the sale ends. Just thought i would put that out there for anyone interested. I am aware this review is 2 years old i am posting this on June 27th 2023.
i got this cpu its a beast compared to my last cpu r5 3600
Bought it last week - upgrading my i5 9600k paired witha RTX 3060 Ti. The upgrade has been insane.
Did you notice a difference? I am running a I5-9600k with a 2070 super and just ordered a B550 gaming plus and a Ryzen 7 5800x.
@@tomthegamer4227 i upgraded from an i5 7400 and gtx 1060 3gb to a 5800x and a 3060ti and its at least 5 to 8 times more efficient in every single thing i do, its insane
How is the temp ????
@@5651337 i use an ID Cooling zoomflow XT 240mm aio, and without undervolting or anything i idle at 32c° and go to the low 40c° when gaming unless its cpu intensive, then it stays arround 55c°. and when i export videos on cpu, on constant 100% load i dont surpass 78c°.
Apparently i got a good chip though, many people dont experience the same temperatures. my case has good airflow and its on a ventilated area, most of the time with ac at 24°c Room temps.
The one dislike is either userbenchmark or someone who just purchased a 3800XT prior to Zen3 launch lol
I bought mine second hand and unused, and holy shit it runs at 4.9ghz straight out of the box.
Fore the first time ever i won the lottery.
Got super lucky and bundled a 5800X with a 3070 ti for $1300.
Both are running great, though I might've lost the silicon lottery just a bit.
That’s quite a deal tbh. Would have been a big L if you passed it up
I sold my 3700x for £250 so I only payed an extra £150 for 5800x. Amazing upgrade especially if you have a Quest 2 using oculus ink
Just in case anyone else is looking for a 5800X the average price on eBay(UK) is £300, I picked mine up for £275 with some haggling + original purchase receipt so I'm covered for warranty in the future. Dude shop around first!
@@sonnyp6790 I bought mine 4 months ago so I still got a really good deal but £275 is an insane deal :)
@@sam-dn9hr ah ok that makes sense, sorry I thought you bought it last week! But yea great to see prices dropping, pretty chuffed with the deal too, look forward to setting up new PC
I did the same thing when the 5800x got first released due to having the HTC vive pro and I have not been disappointed! it is def a noticeable upgrade from my 3700x, I also bought the x570 tomahawk to pair with it.
I’m upgrading from an i7 7700 to a 5800x. I’m hoping to get some better vr performance.
I got one on Amazon for 220 Eur and I'm so happy because that's such a good deal and also a really big upgrade from my Ryzen 3 3200G
Snagged one for a deal for 369$ 2 weeks ago. Best thing I've bought. Finally got a good pc.
What GPU?
I just wanted to say that this video was very well done, I recently had to cave and buy a prebuilt computer from HPs Omen line (shameful I know) it comes with a 3060ti paired with a 5800x for right around $1500, considering some GPUs are going for that price alone I thought it was about the best deal I was gonna get. Anyways, I’m much more happy with my purchase now, knowing that this config could nearly keep up with the more expensive intel variant I was looking into. Just waiting for it to be delivered to my local store now. Thanks again and cheers man!
I also have been reduced to buying a prebuilt. 5800x and 3080ti. $3000 but I’ll never get a 3080 ti if I don’t
Got one of these for $209 to upgrade from my R5 3600 in early 2023. Super excited to upgrade with AM5 still being so expensive
I just ordered this processor for $208 from New Egg. I am stoked to build around it.
In June, is the temperature thing, a problem for the 5800x or is it ok with a decent cooler?
Totally would recommend an Arctic Liquid Freezer II (360 ideally).
But you can undervolt it and not throttle your chip. Remember, they’re rated up to 90(Celsius) operating temps. Not ideal at all but just remember that.
Refer to this persons post sampling different methods, and ultimately manually undervolting 5800x not only improved temps, but in turn, improved the cinebench score. Unaware of their cooling solution, but a good case/cooling setup should be adequate. It’s mainly undervolting
www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jrccrt/5800x_temps_whats_going_on/?sort=controversial
I have mine undervolted with a kraken x73 and don’t get temps higher than 55C in games with performance at the same or better than stock so no not with a good cooler
Room temp does matter a lot. I've reached 95c with the 110f (43c) heatwave striking at my house (I didn't turn AC for a while). Normally at 72f I would get 26c at idle and 67c at most.
@@watintarnation9801 Washington? We get the heat here in Maryland but have AC
@@peace4626 damn that's cool! Undervolt specs?
just paid £240 for this upgraded from 3600 and big improvements. Even running on 3.8ghz i get extra 20-30fps minimum on each game.
Got mine for $380 from Microcenter about 3 weeks ago. So far so good even though the thermals concern me even with a Corsair h100i cooler.
brooo, I have the same thoughts same cpu and same cooler...lmk if you have done anything for it
5800x is a freaking toaster, though i only find it to shoot up in temps when doing very specific tasks, ive read other people saying their 5800x goes right to 80°c just by opening normal apps. i have to encode video to make it go that hard...
I've had the 5800x with my Gigabyte Aorus X570 board and it's running like a champ. Undervolted to 1.25 and with the NZXT Z63, I'm getting idle in the 38-42C range and 68-70C when doing productivity/gaming (~4.6Ghz). Fantastic CPU!
thats weird, your cpu might be heating more than normal or you should try to get a little bit more airflow in your case. right now im on stock settings, no undervolting, no overclocking. boosting at 4.5ghz at arround 75 c° and idling at 28-32c° with an id cooling zoomflow XT 240 aio
@@ignajara I think I have good airflow but I do run a more aggressively quiet fan curve when not doing something like gaming/video editing. I have two 140mm BeQuiet fans at the top, one 120mm rear exhaust and then the two 140mm fans in the front blowing into the rad. I'm now hitting 4.725-4.75Ghz when gaming and the temps are right at 67-70 degrees with mild fan noise (I made a few fan curve changes). I'm pretty happy with the results.
I got lucky with my 5800x, I got a oc of 5.015ghz on all cores and it never got hotter than 64C while gaming.
Nice. My "golden" core isn't even stable "stock" at 4.85 GHz (With a clean BIOS the CPU boosts to that value on its own). Had to add 5 counts through PBO2...All core is at 4.65 GHz though.
Damn! Should have posted the specs. CPU cooler? Case? I'm around 71C in warzone
@@accordracin96 well my cooler is a Kraken x62 and my case is just some generic corsair case I got for 50 dollars, my pc looks plain on the outside but the inside is pretty nice. I am also using a Asus x570 gaming pro motherboard.
First time hearing 5ghz on Ryzen without LN2
@@McCarthy880 really? I went on reddit and saw that a decent amount of people managed to get 5ghz on the 5800x chip out of the box with liquid coolers, I think the only ryzen chips that would need liquid nitrogen to get 5ghz are the past generations.
Just bought one of these for $305USD and it's great!
In April, Micro Center had $50 off coupons on the 5800X and the 5600X (as well as two Intel CPUs). I picked up a 5800X for $269 ($30 cheaper than the 5700X at the time) and a 5600X for $159 ($20 less than the 5600). I saved $20 off each motherboard when I purchased them in a Mobo/CPU combo, and I saved another 5% off the entire purchase when I used my Micro Center credit card. It was an in-store only deal, but I couldn't pass it up. The prices are currently $299 and $199 respectively, although if I was looking to buy today, I would probably go for the 5700X ($249) or the 5600 ($149) as their prices have dropped even more since April.
5900x costs 450$
5800x costs 200$ in my country.Norway.
I found the 5800x was dropping performance in games when it peaks 70 Celsius.Ryzen says the cpu works best at high temps,but naaaa...underclocking makes wonders with this cpu!!
i just bought one from micro center for 200 bucks upgraded from the 5600x and glad i got it and loving so for
I got mine for 350. Just got a custem desktop. Have been told it gets hot so I have been saving up for water cool and a few more fan's. I have a huge case.
Everybody was complaining that it was running too hot and we're afraid to buy it
If you look elsewhere the power draw is set too high for the chip. Something like 145 when it should be 105. Not sure why this happened, but some other youtubers have changed the TDP and fixed the thermal issues without harming performance.
If you change it to 105 it doesn't affect anything? Performance wise?
@@accordracin96 seems to work better. I just built a system with a 5800x and temps are totally fine. Granted I am running a 1660 super, so I’m GPU bottlenecked on most games anyways.
@@SodiPopMedia Good to know, ill be using a 1660 Ti with the 5800x until GPUs come down
@@SodiPopMedia AMD has set it to 142W. That's default power limit for AMD 105W TDP processors. All of them. TDP is not max power on any CPU expect Threadripper and server stuff. They should have made 5800X 95W TDP(128W PPT) but I suspect AMD needed to include as many dies as possible due production problems. I've seen pretty bad 5800X samples.
@@kognak6640 I bought a 5800x and a MA612 Cooler Master cooler (it's a single tower push/pull air cooler) in August. I've had not thermal issues at all. I made sure I updated the chipset drivers and had the newest BIOS for my board. Not sure if that makes a diff. or not.
I just bought one for 244 and honestly although I shouldn't have upgraded since I have a 5600x honestly I am looking forward to having those 2 extra cores and it's gonna work absolutely amazing with the new AMD cards that are coming out
My buddy is building a pc right now wet just had this discussion last night
I said 5600x usually is a much better value but if you can catch a sale on the 5800x then snag it
But you need to remember the thermals and power consumption are quite a bit higher which probably means investing in a higher priced case/cooling solution and a more powerful psu
So it’s not just about the cost of the cpu itself
Is a Scythe Fuma 2/Noctua U12S with a 750w PSU good?
@@CoolJoshido212 depends on your case, and your room ambient temps.
if it’s a high flow case then a fuma should work
What is your gpu?
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 3060 Ti
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 Not a big problem at all. The 5000 series is designed to handle all the way up to 115° Celsius.
I got one of these. It scores higher in cinebench r23 than a threadripper 1950x in multicore, insane. (benchmarked in safe mode). Also with - 30 PBO curve it hits 4.85ghz single core and 4.7ghz all core, with temps not exceeding 80c
I’ve got a 5800X too, but have been a little shy with my OC settings. If it’s not too much trouble can you describe your BIOS settings to maintain those clock speeds? I haven’t really dove into PBO modifications.
@@Animosity00 Overclocking the ryzen actually helps it long term. Look up 5800x oc guide on yt. For me it's the first video, white back ground, and like 5 minutes. It will make your cpu -10c cooler and boost your clocks.
Just ordered mine for $239 on a flash sale on Newegg to replace my 3700X. That's almost 50% off MSRP so I am super happy about that. It's gonna be paired with a XFX RX 6750 XT so hopefully I'll get some good performance
I got my 5800X for $400 on Amazon and I paired it with a Noctura NH-D15 Chrome.Black and I have no heat problems
What are your temps?
Temps 40 idle 56 on load
@@JOSE263 No cpu is doing 56* Celsius under load lmao where are you, antarctica?
@@accordracin96 never gets above 70 degrees
@@bobokakenvalorant3557 - Yeah I was like excuse me... lol
I got mine for 299.99!!!!! I waited for the perfect time!
Just came across your channel through this video. I would be really interested to see the follow up OC video you mentioned, are you still planning on bringing it out?
I’m watching this video very late but just picked one up for 180 usd. I couldn’t believe my eyes
So glad I was able to pick this CPU up at microcenter for 300 on black friday.
Nice one I got mine in Canada for about 325 USD equivalent it's a nice CPU
help! I need cpu advice. i just had a computer built for me to handle photo and video editing needs and presumed it would be super fast with the specs i got. cpu: ryzen 7 5800x, mb: msi mpg x570 gaming edge, gpu: rtx 3060, ram: ballistix 32gb 3600mhz, drive: m.2 nvme samsung 980 pro.
Whenever i do anything slightly intensive (export edited photos or make photo adjustments in advanced program), the cpu maxes out at 100% the whole time. I didn't expect that from these specs after reading about how well this cpu handles things. Suggestions? I even did basic overclock to 4.7ghz but get the same issue. I was told it can hit 5.0ghz but can't get the cpu there.
Would getting a Ryzen 9 make much difference?
Basically yes!
May I know the softwares you are using for photo &vdo editing? i have a r9 3900x paired with 3070 and 32gb of ram but the 5800x is a very capable cpu for the task you are referring
Got this for
Got this for $349.00 last week, can not beat it at that price.
you stated that you were going to explore pbo 2 and curve optimizer in another video. However, your scores indicate you already did the tuning for this video lol. Hitting peak frequencies of 5ghz and averaging 4.8ghz in game, and hitting those synthetic bench numbers is not stock behaivor. Eitherway, the cpu is awesome.
That's Curve Optimizer & PBO 2 magic, it's so nice to FINALLY hit that 5 GHz Intel-only performance mark! ;-)
What’s your cooling solution? Mine is running at 82C often times.
5800x sounds like an excellent CPU for a general purpose and gaming PC. If I were doing a MiniITX build, I’d go with one of those. And a midrange GPU (when they are priced normally again). I think a 6c8t CPU is a bit light for future-proofing 3 or 4 years, whereas the 5800x should work nicely.
For the Intel route, if I wanted something comparable, I’d go 10900K with the understanding that the TDP will likely be significantly higher.
I love my upgraded ITX for dev stuff. Runs VMs pretty fine and can open up two unity projects effortlessly.
I was little wotried about teml, but turns out it was the climate affecting it a lot.
I built my mini ITX around the 5800X. Went with the white NR200P.
The thing about future proofing is that you can lower graphics and you'll coast by just fine
I've yet to run into a game I straight up can't play with my shitty 6 year old i3-6100, GTX 1050 Ti and 8GB of RAM build but I'd obviously love to get more performance which is why I'm looking to upgrade soon
So it also depends on how much you're willing to compromise in terms of the settings too to determine how future proof something is. Had I gotten a good i7 and maybe a 1080 back in the day I dunno if I'd be looking to upgrade just yet
But that said, damn I'm kinda looking for excuses to justify grabbing a 5800X instead of a 5600X myself because I really don't need one but I just want one. The main thing stopping me is the price difference being rather big and the slight concern over the thermals, though my planned cooler shouldn't have an issue with that I don't think
@@cunt5413 what cpu cooler did you use for that? I'm getting the NR200P and 5800x but I'm still undecided about the cooler.
@@marieantoine NZXT Kraken X53 with a top mounted radiator. I would like to provide more details but my comments all disappeared within seconds of posting.
DannyzReviews Dose this improve the gamming graphics as well as the performance from a Ryzen 5?
I just bought one of these in 2022 for $349.99. This should be a pretty big improvement over my R5 2600 I'm using right now. New chip will be here in 3 days 😁
Are you still planning to do the video of overlooking and undervolting the 5800X? Looking forward to it, with all of the detailed settings.
I got it for 300€... And it's going like a beast in gaming. Once you fix the heat it's a very good cpu.
I’m looking for a cpu that fits well with the rog strix rtx 3080 oc or even 3090 oc for future gpu upgrade without any bottlenecking. My job most of the time is with a lot of heavy excel files, power bi and python. The second purpose is for best gaming performance. Is the 5600x enough and great with those gpu or a 5800x would be better?
For those high end GPUs, I'd go with the 5800X, more and more games will perform best on 8 core CPUs in the coming years. It also has the best single core performance and will do great in office applications.
@@azmc4940 thanks a lot
I picked one of these up for 400 Canadian funbucks recently. I love it.
Very strong video, bro.
My local Micro center actually has the 5800X for $299!
I went from a ryzen 5 3600 to a 5800x using a RTX 3080..insane upgrade
About to do a very similar upgrade, my 3600x is bottlenecking my 6800xt, gonna buy a 5800x and a new mobo next week
Running this cpu with an 360AIO (Galahad ) benchmark r20 76C, 6321multi and 674single score. Room temp around 30C without AC on. 4400mhzcl19 4x8gb ram tuned to 3800mhz cl14(patriot steel viper) aorus 550 pro ac Mainbaord.
is a high idle temp normal? like 60ish to hight 50s as well?
I got mine on a nice sale, using PBO curve. It runs great!
Guys, what would be a great cooling solution for Ryzen 7 5800x ? Is Wraith Prism going to cut it?
This thing ties 10900k at multicore performance. That is an absolute unit.
this was all they had at best buy other than a ryzen 9 5950x but my setup can NOT handle that one so this was a good middle ground
If all you're doing is gaming then 5900x and 5800x are actually better than the 5950x.
Just ordered one for €299. Just €15 more than the current price of the 5600x. Would have preferred an apu with better gpu and cpu performance than the 5700G is currently offering, so here’s to hoping that zen 3+ doesn’t put it to shame in a couple of months!
My logic was both consoles are 8 core AMD chips so be really good for cross porting in the future. Not sure that’ll actually matter though.
THIS time game devs simply cannot develop games for Intel only anymore, both consoles are AMD 8 core SoC Inside™ :-)
excellent review
i got it and i don't want aio and when rendering it got to 90 degrees
my specs
cooler master 212 hyper black edition rgb double fans (i bought another fan for it )
i have 3 cooler master fans in the front 2 case fan one back and one top both exhaust
b550 msi carbon wifi mother board
850 PSU
my case air cooler clearance is 158mm
my room temps is 23c degrees as i work A/C all the time
if you can help me or recommend me what to do whether i buy another cooler or CPU and sell the 5800x
i don't want to undervolted cause i'm not expert plus i saw couple of videos and i didn't like the results at all
Just bought one on amazon for 349.99 its a steal right now.
Snagged a perfect condition with all packaging used one for $180. The seller upgraded to the 3D.
Sold a 3700x for my asking price $160. Wanted to just go to 5600 for $3 out of pocket. The 5600 didn’t show up the day it was supposed to. Saw a 5800x on a local ad for $180. 5600 wasn’t opened and getting RMA’d. $17 more for a 5800x was worth it for the long term as this is a secondary PC with a 1080ti. At some point my main rig 6700xt will end up in this system. It’s my living room console / HTPC.
Just bought one for 320.00 US Dollars. OmG I love this cpu. Came from a base 2700.
I've been running my 5800x since launch OCd 24/7 at 4.6 all cores no issues. Temps are at 35c idle ,70c max in stress tests, and low 50s in games with a Dark Rock Pro 4 cooler. If you can grab one for $399 or less I think its a deal. I upgraded from a 3800x...yes it was worth the upgrade!
what mobo are you using to OC your 5800x ? I think ill buy the 5800x, but my budget for a mobo its around 160$
@@Frey_64 It's not actually worth it to OC the 5800X. An all-core OC will prevent the single core boost, and that's really what helps with gaming performance. With PBO enabled, the 5800X can boost up to 5 GHz on some cores, but it won't do that if you apply an all-core overclock. Also stock all core boost already reaches 4.6 GHz. What you can do is try to undervolt which will lower temps and improve boosting behavior (it's not complicated, straightforward BIOS settings) tho for my chip it was not fully stable.
The mobo I'm using is the Asus ROG B550 Gaming-F (non-Wifi), tho you can go cheaper, just make sure you find a review that tells you how good VRMs are. I cool it with a Scythe Fuma 2.
@@azmc4940 Thanks for the response, very good info there, you convinced me to not worry about OC :D. I think I'll go for a b550 msi bazooka or gaming, all the reviews says vrms are nice and cool
I bought this cpu knowing that it has temp issues. Do i need to undervolt this cpu or should i let it at stock. Thanks
You can actually go into advanced pbo setting and manually lower power limits
@@DannyzReviews haven't done anything like this before, maybe i need thorough research before i make this step.
just got one on amazon for $220 USD. absolute steal
Been watching the prices for a bit. I've seen it as low as $409.
Microcenter has the 5800x for $379 right now 6/15/21.
Got mine for 340
@@zenabi1939 $340 Is a great price. I ended up returning it and buying a 5900x.
How about cpu temperature?? I had issue this cpu too hot
Get a good cooler
20:20 But 5800X performs way better than the i7 line. It's even a matchup to the i9s.
I love my 5800X!
How are your temps? Voltage?
@@accordracin96 Running stock plenty fast here, just got my ram manually 3800 CL14 1900 Fclk 4x8GB ddr4, under full load all cores 79C maximum cpu voltage range from 0.224V to 1.472V according to HWinfo64
@@10GreenDragon10 - Thanks for the reply.
Stock I was getting 1.512V and temps around 72-74C but this was in video games (which I mainly use the PC for).
I'm looking at it honestly with black Friday prices it's down to $299. My PC is finally starting to die after 11 years. So I'm building a new system.
people hated this cpu on launch? everywhere i went the 5800x was THE cpu to get, it was tha main amd > intel argument between people around here
Mine runs hot tbh. I need to look into the “fixes” people have done when I get some time
Got my 5800x at Microcenter last week for 300.00 dollars
zen 3 its really impressive if you think 11900k barely compete with this cpu
I'm running a R 3900x on a x570 mbo w/ 32 gb ram @ 3200 mhz w/XFX 6700 xt gpu, using 1400p, 165 mhz, 1ms monitors. At this point this build is very fine. Good review, thanks Dannyz!
Just stumbled on this video and i have to say you did very good job, very well written script and consistent results :) Even though i have 5950x i can always have some time for good benchmark video. Here in EU 5800x price has stabilized, usually its around 430€ tax included and sometimes drops to 400€. 370-400 imo is decent and its worth to consider it, earlier this year when it was around 450-490$ was just too much imo.
What puzzles me is my 5950x temps, i have paired it with crosshair hero 8 motherboard and nh-d15 chromax cooler. Im running with stock settings and docp enabled but i get significantly higher temps, during gaming i get around 80-85c during gaming workloads and around 75-80c when benchmarking in cinebench, my clocks due to temps are quite lower than your 5900x or 5800x, when gaming it usually sits at 4.55-4.6ghz. im now on second sample of my 5950x (which i had to return due to being faulty) and i get same temps, cooler mounted properly and seals are removed and thermal paste is applied manually and spread across whole cpu ihs, been building pc's for years now:) I came to the conclusion that it might be because of my asus mb bios set up defaults might cause this or possibly due to my ram because its dual rank, 4 sticks of samsung b-die 64gb kit, which might stress cpu memory controller but im just speculating at this point :/
It's been confirmed that Zen 3 architecture allows up temps up to 115° C. You're absolutely fine with the temps you're running with.
Just bought mine from microcenter the other day for $329 and I did sleep on the $299 price but all good
Thermals on this chip are higher than your listing. I have tried a Noctua NHD-15 to custom cooling and the thermals I am seeing are always higher than your listing.
Amazon has this for $359. Best Buy price matched and I had a $50 gift card so I just got this for $310. STEAL!! Nice upgrade from my 2700x. I had to lower the voltage to keep the temps under 70 degrees at 100% load but no performance sacrifice.
recently got this for 315$ totally worth it