ERRATA 1:37 One day, all RUclipsrs will learn not to quote prices that don’t match what’s shown on screen. But it is not this day! 5:01 I meant to say “127 FPS”, obviously 9:20 I wrote “around 500 FPS” in the script, but “above 500 FPS” came out of my mouth. Oops. 12:35 Yes, that was an opportune moment to drop a So Solid Crew reference, and I missed it. Sorry, I dropped the ball on this one. NOTES This was all written before I learned about the 5700X3D. Right now I consider that chip to still be a rumour, and - if it is a repeat of the 5600X3D situation - then I will continue to ignore it after release. While I understand AMD needs to shift old silicon, products that are only available in one store in one country might as well not exist at all. All that being said, if it does get a global release, I look forward to reviewing it!
@@Pasi123 I'm a noob is that good enough for my use case. I got a workstation Lenovo p520 for very cheap. My tv is 4k and I wanted to play Alan Wake 2 and cyberpunk with ray tracing or maybe path tracing would a rtx 4080 get massively bottlenecked. Sorry for the dumb question any advice is greatly appreciated
@@Spencerwalker21 At native 4K it would probably be fine with the RTX 4080 most of the time, but at lower resolutions it would definitely be slower than for example the Ryzen 7 5700X. X299/LGA2066 had comparable gaming performance to Ryzen 3000 series My main PC has a similar CPU, i9-10900X, but I only have a GTX 1080 so I can't do any testing
I purchased this CPU last month as upgrade from 7600k. Its bloody awesome with my rx5700xt. Now i can push my GPU to the limits and the whole system feels like rocket ship (compare to previous CPU option and GPU utilisation up to 68%)
1:13 the 5700X actually has the B2 stepping that is better binned than the earlier Zen 3 CPUs. It's how it manages to be so great despite its low 65W TDP. I got mine in September this year for the equivalent of 150GBP. I used PBO to get 5800X performance while avoiding the 5800X's heat issues.
@@IBims1Mark PBO On. PPT 118, TDC 79, EDC 120. Curve Optimizer off (it was never stable for me). Undervolted by setting a negative offset of -0.05 for the CPU Core Voltage. Scores 14.9k in Cinebench R23, just like the CPU in this video, but it doesn't go over 85C with a Noctua NH-D12L, even when it's 30C in my room. It will crack 15k if I completely remove the PBO limits, but then heat becomes an issue. Motherboard is B450-A PRO MAX. Had a 1600AF before.
@@TimberWulfIsHere Not without sacrificing heat and noise. I don't care for getting 100% performance with 100% power when I can get 95% performance with 70% of the power. I like having a quiet PC so I aim to find the efficiency sweet spot when overclocking/undervolting. I used to go all out overclocking and I realized that strategy only gives me very little more performance for much more heat and noise.
Been running one for a few months with a 5700XT, and it's an excellent 1080p budget combo for about £300. AM5, DDR5 and all that is great, but latter-end AM4/DDR4 is just too acceptable to justify the immediate jump for me. Before this I had a 1700X, and it lasted me just over six years before I really felt the need to jump ship. (though keeping in mind, I mostly play fighting games and more e-sports-y FPS). I reckon this generation of Ryzen will probably end up the CPU form of what Pascal was for so long, just sitting at the top of Steam component charts for the next half a decade because it's very affordable and "good enough" for the vast majority of people.
Got a r5600x and a rx 6700xt and the performance exceeded far my expetations especially for the price! Perfect for 1440p with most games over 100 fps. Some new games need some graphics tweaking but still 100 fps+ and great visuals. Im happy.
This is the kind of upgrade the cheap 5700x is great for. Really boosting old AM4 systems. The benefit of a platform with such unparalleled longevity. I hope AMD repeats this with AM5.
We can only hope. I'm fine with my 7600x atm but would be awesome to be able to upgrade in a couple generations with just a simple slot in instead of having to buy a whole new motherboard.@@GeorgePerakis
My last rig was a 5700X and a 3070. Ran lots of games really well at 1440p. I don't remember any particular issue that I had with it. VRAM was probably my biggest issue. I run a 5800X3D and 6800XT now and it's monstrous at 1440p. Anyone looking at getting the 5700X CPU as an upgrade will be very satisfied imo. I didn't overclock it, but it self turbos to about 4.4 GHz (according to Armory Crate and NZXT Cam at least).
I have the same combo and it is truly beastly for 1440p. I wasn’t sure about the x3d but I was surprised it did lead to more stable framerates. I am a bit anxious about the next few years though, hopefully it will last for a few more years
@@MrBones105 I think it will last quite a while, especially with how expensive a lot of components are becoming now. I can run Baldur's Gate 3 at a steady 120 fps (custom frame rate cap) without any FSR options enabled and just about everything set to High or Ultra. Single-Player Tarkov runs very well for me even with a bunch of mods installed, and the Modern Warfare 1 & 2 reboots run near flawlessly. Most of my other games are indie games or somewhat unoptimized JRPGs, but those run beautifully after a few graphical tweaks. Disabling VSync actually helped me with frame stutters, and I barely notice any screen tearing if it's there. Don't doubt the combo, friend. This CPU and GPU are incredible and will make it through at least two more generations imo.
@@T.Lspitz Sorry for late reply. NZXT Cam is decent, but a lot of AIOs that you can purchase require that you download the software to be able to adjust it. I don't have an NZXT mobo. It's just recognized through the USB header to the pump.
I went from a 3600x to a 5700x a year ago and the 5700x surprised me when I upgraded to a 4070ti at 1440p. Every game is smooth and the low power draw and temps was the cherry on top!
Couple months back updated my B350 board from a R5 1600 / gtx1070 to R7 5700x and RX6650XT. Doesn't disappoint at all, very happy with the very noticeable gains from both and the system in general. Cost per performance upgrade great value, best my PC has seen without the need of updating anything else. Will be good for a little while now, however next upgrades will need to be system wide...
I have to say : I've been missing a channel like this for years ! I feel that most just talk about the latest and greatest (and most expensive). They all test at very high/ultra and they don't try to turn down settings. Finally a channel for us that don't puke money on a daily basis :D I need a new gaming rig for my son, and thanks to your channel I think I know what cheap gpu to get him and shockingly i also think i know what cpu to pair it with ! I see a bright future for this channel, just don't forget us when you start bringing in the big youtube bucks :)
I just built a new pc to replace my 5yo R53600 and RX580 with the R7 5700x and a 6700xt. The improvements were very worth the effort and I'll most likely be on this rig for at least 5 years. Like you, I'm over seeing the 4090 builds that cost more than I make a month. I won't build an AM5 until I can do it under $800usd all in without flat out getting the cheapest hardware available.
I bought a B450 + R5 1600 combo in 2018 and it's been the best investment in computing I've ever made. To think I can have so much performance still is nuts. Thinking of dropping my R5 1600 + RX 580 combo and going for a 5700G since I don't game much on PC, particularly new games. AM4 is one of the best platforms in history, bar none.
@@ShawtyBussin decided not to do anything of the sort, left this as my workstation and bought a Steam Deck instead. Got a good deal on a used (like new) 64GB model. Been LOVING IT.
Just in case anyone is wondering. Iceberg's signature high energy, high momentum benchmarks are done with a track labeled as "Midnight Racer" on RUclips.
@@IcebergTech I was searching for awhile using that name. Finally found it under "Midnight Racer" authored by "backing tracks" Midnight Racer definitely suits it. I'm putting this track on phone for motorcycling through city at night :D
The 7700 at least on Ali express is starting to get super cheap as well( like under 200 usd with codes).So I don’t know how much longer the 5700x will hold on with ddr5 and b650 motherboards getting cheaper by the month. It’s amazing how much more cpu power you can hit now then 4 years ago particularly compared to gpus massive price hikes!
Yes! At my place, we have zen 4 7500f per smth like 130-140$. This cpu is definitely better than 5700x, the equal multi core performance and, accordingly, much more singlecore performance. 7500f can work absolutely fine on any motherboard, even cheap a620 per 80$. The only difference is price of ddr5, anyway, for really good performance you need 6000 cl30 memory, but, anyway, this is just maybe 40$ more than good ddr4 kit. Maybe for the cheap&minimal upgrade 5700x is ok, but no point in buying him from scratch
The 5700X is a great upgrade for the many MANY existing AM4 systems. And for people who are extremely budget constrained but need multicore performance. People with high budgets should obviously look at AM5, and people with very constrained budgets should get the 5600.
@@Bashed44 You can get AM4 motherboards for 50 and 16 gigs of DDR4 RAM for 30. Couple that with a 5600 for 100 and you have the cheapest but still good gaming setup on the market right now. AM5 simply cannot match AM4's price to performance proposition, not even with CPUs I can only find on Ali, and those come wirh heavy tariffs in the EU.
@@Bashed44 As a mater of fact the 7500f/7600/7600x will even beat the 5800x3d when overclocked to 5.625ghz all core and using ddr5 6400 CL28. I got mine to score 16350 in multi core and 2050 in single core on cinebenchR23
@@juice7661 according to tests, 5800x3d just a bit faster than any r5 7000 in games, and even worse in multicore/singlecore It's good and cheap way to upgrade your am4 setup, but if you buy a new kit, no need to buy it, it not worth it, new ryzen 5 are great processors
My best purchase going from a ryzen 5 2600 to this ryzen 7 5700x paired with a rx 6700 it made huge upgrade in fps. It's the best price to performance cpu
So I need to point at some things.. 1. The 5700X's PPT is ~76w at stock 2. You let the Ryzen Master OC the cpu to the max which means it will hit up to PPT ~120w and will operate at much higher temps Testing the 5700X at stock ~76w and OC ~120w will make the 1-2% difference in gaming.. a lil bit more in all core workloads. I also have the 5700X and I'm cooling it with Phantom Spirit 120 and the CPU barely hits 50 degrees (cinebench), ~45 degrees in gaming (stock ~76w PPT). DO NOT test the cpu at OC ~120w PPT because the whole testing is just wasted.
@@IBims1Mark there is only 1% difference in gaming between these cpus at stock settings. I ain't going to tell you how to oc the 5700X because it is completely pointless.. it will eat much more power for literally zero difference in gaming. 5700X eats ~60w and 5800X ~90w+ in gaming.
A few months ago, in my region, the ryzen 5700x was the absolute king of performance per dollar. Cheap motherboard, cheap DDR4, and the processor was about 150usd with tax. The only realistic thing that could improve the deal would had been an included wraith cooler
Honorable mention, being if you live near a Microcenter (or know somebody who does)... The exclusive 5600X3D outshines the 5700X in gaming results, even with two fewer cores.
Oh my god you're a lifesaver, I was looking to upgrade my pc but I was gonna go for a slightly lower gpu than you are using at the moment and I was using cpu benchmark to get an idea of what is good. I didn't realise that the ryzen 7 5700x was equivalent to the rx 6900xt, I was gonna go for a much higher spec cpu but now you've saved me 150 quid. You're so useful!!!
most of the time it provides little more performance than the 5600x, so it isnt a great value. Jumping to the 5800x3d is the worthwhile purchase if you want more performance than the 5600x
Amazing CPU!! got mine as Part of a bundle and is Performing like a champ! BPO's to 5.2ghz without breaking a Sweat! run's Great with my 4070! and open's up the door for Zen 5 or possiblely Zen 6 upgrade down the line! cant Wait to ICEBERG test it!😁👍👍
I'm expecting to use the 5700X for the rest of this decade. For general productivity you really can't get better value (in terms of CPU + mobo + RAM cost). One of the standout traits is how cold it runs, so you can run it all day in a hot climate without the room getting uncomfortably warm.
Crying in 3700X. The fact that relic tech reviewers like Iceberg Tech is reviewing a processor that succeeds mine kinda stings. But then again, it's not like I can't afford to upgrade. I have no reason to yet. The 3700X I have is still alive and kicking strong. It is bottlenecking my RX 6800 XT tho, but then again, my monitor's refresh rate caps at 144hz.
something I've noticed with higher thread count cpus (16+) is that in games that dont use alot of cores, the cpu will frequently switch cores and cause frame drops. Particularly if the core it switched to was idle beforehand.
Yes in game and in this because game (not all) are not optimised, even if they don't optimise it to take davantage of all cores they should at least assign core to specific task and it souldn't change in the middle of the game
Excellent CPU overview. I was also surprised we didn't see better 1% lows. Still the price makes it an interesting option. I could see 5700, now, then uograding to 5800x3d or 5950x in a few years before moving onto AM5 some years later.
Dope video. I'm becoming a bigger fan of your videos (I still have a few early model CPU's with projects I want to add them to). As a 9700K/RTX 2060 user, would you recommend switching up to the 5700X? I don't play brand new games on my machine and when I do, it's mostly emulation (Wii U, PS3, Switch, 360) and racing games (sometimes Hogwarts Legacy and badly waiting for Jedi Survivor to get much better through updates before purchasing it or sailing the high seas). Also, my dual monitor setup is 1440p and I'm with switching to 1080p or capping at 60fps.
@@BigBrosFilms Thanks. Would you say the same for those photo editing and video editing (mostly 1080p rendering but maybe 4K editing while rendering 1080p)?
Purchased a Ryzen 7 5700X for about 150€ during Black Friday paired with an RTX 4060 OC, will be building the PC next week. Major upgrade from the i7-4790 lol.
I received my R5 5600 2 days ago and the performance of the 5000 series cpus has left me speechless. A few months ago I was also commissioned by a friend of mine to also build them a brand-new system and I snagged a 6950 XT and a 5700x alongside it which was extremely impressive for his 1440p heavy gaming needs.
No 5800X3D on the commissioned build to assist with 1% lows? That's the one people keep saying is like the GTX 1080 Ti of CPU's. Well, there is still an over $100 price difference, so if there's a tight budget in mind it makes sense... Just saying since the 5800X3D will probably be relevant until AM6 releases.
@@savagej4y241 I considered it but I asked my friend if they wanted a better gpu or a better cpu and what they'd be doing with the pc. They wanted to play more graphically intensive games so we went with the more powerful gpu. The total budget was 1400 euros and it was done in ~May.
@@KneeCutter Makes sense- with a €1400 budget, 6950 XT would take up almost half of it. Have to cut a corner somewhere, so the CPU would be it in that case.
@K.C-2049 I have a 5800X3D, allow me to let you in on an open secret: it is such an excellent undervolter that you can adjust it down to, say, 1.0275V and it will still auto-overclock with PBO to 4.4GHz. This massively brings down temps from stock- about 10°-15°C both idle and under load with a decent cooler. A $40 Thermalright Assassin or the like is more than sufficient for cooling. It does not require an expensive cooling solution. This also reduces actual wattage draw of the 5800X3D to 50-60 watts, which brings it within the 65W TDP expectation of the 5700X at stock. The only reason to choose the 5700X would be the lesser base price due to having a limited budget, which is perfectly reasonable. But those other factors are in fact, non-factors with minimal and uncomplicated tweaking. Its almost criminal how high the voltage setting is at stock on the 5800X3D, because it is utterly unnecessary and the culprit of its perceived energy inefficiency.
I upgraded to this CPU a few months ago I got the CPU and a MSO B550 Pro motherboard for around £280 I upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600 and A320 Board. I get almost the same clocks but I get a lot better temps in synthetic temps I only have a cheaper air cooler but it maxes out at 73c and sits at 4.65GHz all the time during the synthetic tests I also score higher in the synthetic tests. My next upgrade will have to be a new GPU as I recently got a bargain on a brand new 1440p 165Hz monitor and my RTX 3060 is having a hard time now.
wow the precise CPU I use right now I have been on the AM4 platform for a fairly long time now I upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600X upto a Rtzen 7 5700X several months ago and it was a huge boost for me not only in IPC but it helped a lot with games that use more multi-threading I saw better performance in games like AC Odyssey as well as Cyberpunk the latter game being rather CPU heavy with the 2.0 Update.
Nice video. Always interesting to see what is out there. Just recently back on AMD myself and my first Ryzen based system. Got a R5 1600 AF basically for free with a trade. Only part I had to buy new was the motherboard. So far I am quite pleased with it and videos like this are a good reminder that I still have an upgrade path that will keep me going for awhile on a budget.
my 5600x boost to 4.85mhz single core and all i did was click auto overclock in the adrenilian driver program. pretty happy with it , its never held me back so far.
The current levels required for 1080p and 1440p gaming are unlikely to change much, and haven't for a while. True, new hardware comes out and games get more demanding, but what you can get for your money has been pretty stable for years now, and with people less willing to spend money for the latest hardware the majority of Gamers work with ... : PC GPU: RTX 1050 Ti to RTX 3060, which about matches the Radeon RX 6300 / 680M (R7 7735HS) to RX 5700 XT / 6600 XT Consoles: About the level of a RX 6700 XT or RTX 3060 Ti VRAM: 8GB to 12GB CPU: Zen 2 Ryzen 8 Core ( like Ryzen 7 3700X ) / Intel 12Th Gen 10+ Core ( like Core i5-12500H ) RAM: 16GB to 32GB With AM4 supporting up to Zen 3, this means it is and will remain an interesting option for low- to mid-range gaming for a pretty long time. The Ryzen 7 5700X isn't the only interesting option here, just the best compromise. If for instance you want a strong gaming PC, you might want the R7 5800X3D instead which gets you near an AM5 in gaming performance, or if you want additional multithreading computation power there also is the R9 5900X . Aside from that there are many options for simpler Office to low-tier CPUs such as the Ryzen 5 4500, and AMD intends to release two new CPUs on top of things: The Ryzen 5 5500X3D and Ryzen 7 5700X3D - AM4 is far from obsolete. Honestly, if I had any say in this I would keep the AM4 around as an entry level solution even for the foreseeable future. Back to topic: For everything up to mid-range, just get yourself an R7 5700X with 2x16GB DDR4-3600 and pair it with either an RTX 3060 12GB or RX 6700 XT 12GB and you are good for years to come.
I upgraded to the r7 5700x from the r5 2600, Massive difference in performance in newer cpu intensive games and well worth the 160 dollars I spent on it.
Good video. I don't think you have nearly as much of a gpu bottleneck as you think you do. If/When you upgrade to a 5800x3d then I bet you'll see average fps increases at 1080p with the rx 6900xt. The 5600x has the same ipc as the 5700x, the extra cores often don't scale as much as we'd think they would.
For average FPS it depends, some games would get a benefit from the 5800X3D but many others wouldn't compared to having a 5700X. The real benefit is in the 1% lows- obliterates stuttering that happens sometimes on last gen hardware.
This makes me happy that I bought a 5600X when I did, though it does appear that maybe the 2 extra cores of the 5700X really did not help much in most games and it seems that the 5600X and RTX 2080 Super I have paired with it seem to work beautifully together.
Im glad this video got recommended to me i just got a 5600 and was thinking of getting a 5700x im mostly a warzone players and nobdy benchmarks this game and suddenly i see a 5700x is the same as 5600x im glad about that i was thinking id get the 5700 and just update the platform next time but i went 3600 to 5600 in hopes of getting a cheap x3d cpu in the future. i was planing on overclocking the 5600 tho hopefully that doesnt cause crashes
I recently picked this up for $170 on sale. Moving from a 3600, I still got decent performance uplift, I was surprised how cool this thing runs. I use the Noctua NH-12 Redux cooler and I usually see temps around 45C or lower in most gaming workloads.
Is it very worth it? I also have a 3600, but I only bought it a few months ago because it was very cheap. The CPU does a good job and is light years faster than my old FX 8350. But now think that maybe should have gone for the Ryzen 5700X straight away. Now I'm thinking about maybe selling my 3600 and getting a Ryzen 5700X. But then again, the 5700X isn't that much faster than the 3600 when look at benchmarks. Only play at 60HZ anyway.
I upgraded my GPU to a 7800XT, but something didn't feel right, it wasn't performing as good as I expected. Turns out my 3600 was holding it back, upgraded to a 5700X, now it gets is full potential.
Got mine also from July this year. Huge discount along with an ASRock b550m Steel legend. Coming from an i5 10400f, my productivity for work and gaming has greatly improved. I don't upgrade for years but since my work needs much more multitasking and processing power, the R7 5700x suits my budget. In the end, this will serve me well and I will be able to save up for a more complete upgrade on a new processor architecture, memory modules, and GPUs in the future, to be honest, in a very very long time.
A very interesting proposition would be the 5700g. you can disable the iGPU, (but itll always be there for troubleshooting which is nice) and PBO2 overclock it and increase the TDP a little, to match a 5700X in performance, while also having a cooler in the box, all for a cheaper price than the 5700g!
while true, the g chips lose a considerable amount of l3 cache and pcie gen 4 support, 5700x is far more future proof, especially with what gpu makers are doing with pcie4x8 gpu's for midrange gamers
I've upgraded from the 3700X that I had from when it launched to the 5700X back in April and it's a nice upgrade from gaming to production. Paired with a tower cooler, upped the power limits, increased the boost clocks and put the CO to -30, this thing flies in everything I've thrown at it and all for the 186€ I got it for at that time.
If you already have the 3700x I dont think the 5700x is enough of an upgrade. Should have saved money for the 5800x3d for gaming or the 5900x for production.
@@GeorgePerakis I don't really care about the 5800X3D that much, it's still way over 320€ new in my country compared to the 5700X at 176€ currently. This was pretty much my last investment into AM4 as a platform anyway. Budget is tight currently, saving up rather for AM5 right now or go AM6, if they decide to go with that earlier.
@@BonusCrook I disagree, I really was happy with mine, but upgraded to the 5700X since cost wise it was quite cheap after I sold the 3700X for the gains I have now.
I upgraded from a ryzen 5 3400G to a r7 5700x and literally 2x-3x my fps on average on cyberpunk, insane performance on cinebench too, my 5700x outpaced an 5800x in points with a good cooler it never even dipped into 80°C at like 4.8-4.9GHz. Using a Thermalright 120 peerless assassin. And If you research on Undervolting your 5700x people have been reporting fps improvements while using less power and running cooler. Fps increases are very very minimal but measurable.
I was about to buy one, but then I saw the leaks about the 5500x3D and the 5700x3D and I became hesitant. Do you think I should wait for them? (I'm from Europe, maybe they'll also be USA exclusive so idk.) I'd pair it with a 3060 ti
Most games are gpu bottlenecked (due to lazy or non-existent optimization practices). Im rocking the 5600x and all the games ive played rarely use much above 50% cpu. Its totally your choice but remember the new 'x3D' style of chips are more the exception and not the rule, meaning games dont NEED it...
@@watchout5508 CPU usage isn't everything, my 3600 is around 70% in cyberpunk and the GPU barely working at 60% without rt. I don't even get 60 fps in the city where there are many npcs.
@Nick-nf1kd yehh, thats why i said a cpu will last far longer than a gpu, simply cause modern (AAA) developers prioritize graphics over the simulation aspect. Everything is basically set dressing, so a great gpu will like just as long as a average cpu (IMO)
Got this almost 6 months ago, upgraded from a R7 2700X and the difference is HUUUUGE, I remember playing Destiny 2 and on certain parts of the map I would drop to 40-50 fps when everywhere else I would be 90 fps (v sync) but with the R7 5700X I was on 90 fps constantly anywhere
This spring I got the 5700x & 6700xt pair for casual gaming and sometimes productivity. 4 extra threads over the 5600 so background tasks such as Windows Update and U Tube aren't noticeable. Bought brand new, mature tech at the end of their product cycles, less expensive, and don't plan to build a new machine for 5 years or more. If the CPU dies early, can always pick up a used 5800x3d down the road.
After careful consideration, I settled on 7600. I have a 3600, so I could have gone for a 5700x at $190, but the 5800x was $175 actually cheaper in USD. However, when I thought about it, the gains at 1440p with a 3060ti were minimal. It just didn't seem worth it for a few percent increase at best. I briefly considered the 5800x3d for $280, but I didn't want to be too heavily invested in AM4 with no upgrade options in the future. Instead, I decided to go for a 7600 at $200, a budget AM5 motherboard, and some inexpensive RAM. If I sell my old motherboard, RAM, and CPU, I could probably get around $150 as well. This way, I can have a few more years of upgrades on a budget, especially with future generations as they become older. Plus, with the money from the resale, it doesn't seem like a bad deal at all.
a few months back i finally upgraded from a i7 2600k to a ryzen 5600, great cpu, just got a 7800xt last week from the 2060. should be set gpu wise for another 4-5 years, and down the road could upgrade to a 5950x if the six core becomes obsolete. Only thing is i dont really know how to overclock on the b550, and I can't get my ram past 3000mhz when it's advertised as ddr4 3200🤷. but the graphics are amazing and buttery smooth when i was playing hogwarts 4k ultra with fsr2 1440.
I used my super useful gpt-4 to help me deciding my new pc. I took only 3 days, where I generally need decades, considering how I gasp when I see the infinite sea of possibilities. It also helps you to avoid incompatibilities. gtp-3 works fine, but actually is less precise; if you plan to get it, it will save your ass and a lot of time even in these things. I personally got (basic components): - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING 12GB GDDR6 - SK hynix, SSD Platinum P41 2TB - Ryzen 7 5700X - MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK wifi (motherboard) - Corsair Vengeance LPX16GB DDR4 3600 This should work very fine, and it will for years if you're not that demanding
Got mine nearly a year ago and im still in love with it - Was able to get -30 on PBO curve allcore, while +200MHz on top of turbo. PBO Preset is set to AMD setting, but boy - oh boy, if I set it to Mainboard setting... 16k points in r23 🤣🤣🤣
I bought one last year around Christmas time, and got a 6950xt to pair with it, for sub 1000$ I had one of the best setups you could get for the money and it’s still a flawless machine.
I got mine in Feb for $150 with CoH 3 included and I have to say compared to my previous R5 3600 I'm quite happy with the performance. As a nice bonus I was able to pass my 3600 on to the wife and her r3 1200 on to the grandson and all three are happy with their machines.
had this cpu for a while with a rx6750xt but it wasn't really good enough for 3440x1440 165hz gaming so I've upgraded and gave my old setup to my brother who's still using a 1080p monitor and he's been enjoying it - literally everything he's playing runs on ultras without any issues
And here I am in the market for a new CPU, upgrading from a 1700x. Have looked into the 3600, but the prices were increasing from September. So I started wonder about 5600. But it also increased up to the black friday, but didn't get a discount, where I live. And the prices haven't dropped since. 5700X on the other hand is starting to look very very tasty.
On the 7500F, I believe the 5800X3 is faster in games, and the total platform cost will be cheaper. As for longevity, well, it'll last so long that you might jump to socket AM6. ;)
I picked up a 5700x last year around this time for $199usd, it came with Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection as a free gift, right now the 5700x is on my MSI B550 Mortar with 4 x 8Gb setup of 3600Mhz Cl 14, it is paired with an Intel Arc A 770 16Gb made by Sparkle as like you something to play with and helping test Intel Arc on AM4 platform, I have a few videos up with the 5700x / A770 working together as Intel drops drivers.
Decent modern chip. Yeah, you're stuck on AM4 but if you want to make a decent budget build and pair it with an RX 6650 XT or RX 7600 ... it's a pretty damn good value.
There's still the ryzen 5800x3d you could upgrade to eventually if you get a more powerful gpu down the road, so it's not a completely dead end platform. 5600 or 5700x with a decent Radeon is definitely one of the best performance per $ you can get right now.
10:15 The newer call of duty games are notorious for not utilizing the proper amount of threads that a cpu has. I have a i5 11th gen chip and it defaults in the config to only use 4 cores. Not sure if this is at all related to your issues, but it is worth checking out. What I have resorted to is go in game set all the settings to my liking, then close the game to desktop. open the config file and set the correct amount of core usage, then set the config file to read only. For me it says //Thread count for handling the job queue worker_threads = "4" // 2 to 4 And I change it to //Thread count for handling the job queue worker_threads = "6" // 2 to 6 I did some experimenting with putting my actual threads vs physical cores..seemed to work better just using the core count for me. If might also differ between intel and amd cpu as I have heard. Sorry for such long message but this is pretty infuriating that call of duty can't even utilize CPU properly.. its absurd.
you know you're a smart shopper when you buy a cpu then see a video like this about it. i got mine used on amazon for $120 instead of $160 and it was basically just a brand new returned cpu.
I do recommend not running an overclock or curve optimizer. Although results may vary, I found there were always some anomalies where the performance was reduced or would have behavior issues. I decided to run my 5700x with the auto pbo and nothing else, and it does hit 4.8ghz single core while gaming with air cooling. The 1% and 0.1% low performance in this video has me suspicious that the chip was not running as well as it might have on default. Even though Ryzen Master software is AMD's first party software, i found whenever I ran the curve optimizer that i would have issues with stuttering and crashing eventually. I am using a gigabyte B550, so the default motherboard settings can matter as well I suppose. Great video my man! Also really enjoyed the Radeon VII video, keep 'em coming! :)
a 5700x can't do too much. but a mild -curve optimizer is almost never bad. Won't make it any faster. And almost certainly don't be surprised if you can't go past -10 on these. But anything is a gain there. Use BIOS for this rather than ryzen master, and forget that ryzen master auto OC + CO feature, just curve optimize it. You should spend time on memory clocks if you want it to be any faster (also probably not worth)
Back in April 2023, I bought an new RTX 4070 but still had a Ryzen 3600, I live in Southern California and when I was scrolling through offerup, a guy locally was selling an unbox new Ryzen 5700x for $100 USA , I messaged him asking why so cheap and he said it’s cause for his birthday he was gifted the cpu as well as a 5800x, so he selling other for cheap, I got extremely lucky lol
my dearest's pc got an upgrade.. 5700x, mobo and 2x16gb ram cost just under 300 pounds :D added a 28 pounds peerless assassin 120 se. perfection, imho. locked at 4.2 and undervolted. it is beautiful!
ye i like this cpu. mine runs all cores 4800Mhz . the difference between pbo and all core is like 2000 points in cinebench r23 . that is like 13% more ! i get over 16k and i have seen the new am5 7600 that is a six core cpu that gets like 14.9k . cheers!
hey bro please reply will gtx 1660 super or 2060 super be a good option for xeon e3 1230 v3 1600mhz ram . please recommend a good to pair with it i want atleast a card better than rx 580 1060
Something I'd like to point out. Yer missing out on some additional performance (and temp headroom). Proper BIOS setup is key (instead of using crummy software). You'll want to go in and set up an undervolt via curve optimizer (I have mine running -20 on all cores). Also, you want to push the PBO2 max boost to as high as it'll go (should be +200 MHz). With this setup, my 5700X hits 4.85 GHz vs. yer 4.75GHz and averages 80C in a Cinebench R23 (15,600 multi and 1,570 single) 10 min loop on a 240mm AIO.
bought the 5700x two months ago for around €160, as an upgrade from my R3 3100, and it's simply incredible, it handled everything I trowed at it from gaming to video editing and 3D modeling, it's a great pair with my 5700xt
Interesting pairing.... 3100 and 5700xt... pretty sure that is a pretty decent bottleneck, so I can see why you are so satisfied :). Best value am4 cpu besides the 5600 and 3600
@@appsaucetech haha originally I had and RX580 paired with the 3100, so it was a balanced build, but one month before I bought the 5700x I saw the 5700xt for very good price, so bought already thinking on a cpu upgrade, so the 5700x was the right CPU on the right time
Bought mine last summer for 169 euro, used a 3600 before that. I use DaVinci resolve a lot and the difference between the cpu's is truly massive. Battlefield 2042 also runs WAY better, truly a night and day difference. Enlisted and War Thunder also gained about 40 fps. Oh and mine never exceeds 76 degrees, with a budget tower cpu cooler and only 2 fans in a midi case.
I am running a Ryzen 7 3800X that has comparable specs but was waaaay cheaper. And you know 'buying into an obsolete system' is kinda a moot thing with these chipsets as they all can run 100 of the top 100 games in 2023 at over 60 FPS but that is just me, the system I built has no RGB and the case is flat black because chrome don't get you home to use an old truckers expression. All in all I am pretty happy with the boot times, the playability and the temps that this new system provides :) Thanks for the video super scripting, editing and content as usual
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1:37 One day, all RUclipsrs will learn not to quote prices that don’t match what’s shown on screen. But it is not this day!
5:01 I meant to say “127 FPS”, obviously
9:20 I wrote “around 500 FPS” in the script, but “above 500 FPS” came out of my mouth. Oops.
12:35 Yes, that was an opportune moment to drop a So Solid Crew reference, and I missed it. Sorry, I dropped the ball on this one.
NOTES
This was all written before I learned about the 5700X3D. Right now I consider that chip to still be a rumour, and - if it is a repeat of the 5600X3D situation - then I will continue to ignore it after release. While I understand AMD needs to shift old silicon, products that are only available in one store in one country might as well not exist at all. All that being said, if it does get a global release, I look forward to reviewing it!
Try R7 5800x3D
Please test w-2145 xeon.
@@Spencerwalker21 That's pretty much an i7-7820X but with slightly higher clockspeed and all of the PCIe lanes available
@@Pasi123 I'm a noob is that good enough for my use case. I got a workstation Lenovo p520 for very cheap. My tv is 4k and I wanted to play Alan Wake 2 and cyberpunk with ray tracing or maybe path tracing would a rtx 4080 get massively bottlenecked. Sorry for the dumb question any advice is greatly appreciated
@@Spencerwalker21 At native 4K it would probably be fine with the RTX 4080 most of the time, but at lower resolutions it would definitely be slower than for example the Ryzen 7 5700X.
X299/LGA2066 had comparable gaming performance to Ryzen 3000 series
My main PC has a similar CPU, i9-10900X, but I only have a GTX 1080 so I can't do any testing
I purchased this CPU last month as upgrade from 7600k. Its bloody awesome with my rx5700xt. Now i can push my GPU to the limits and the whole system feels like rocket ship (compare to previous CPU option and GPU utilisation up to 68%)
Massive Improvement haha. 7th gen Intel i5's were terrible because they didn't have hyper threading.
Hey what CPU did you use before? I just ordered a 5700x and will run it with the 5700xt too...
@@Nick-eu5lrHe stated he was running an i5-7600k.
i orderes today this cpu and before this i had i5-4670k and rx5700xt which only got used like 10% in games😂
lol i just bought a system with that chip and it's going to arrive tomorrow!
1:13 the 5700X actually has the B2 stepping that is better binned than the earlier Zen 3 CPUs. It's how it manages to be so great despite its low 65W TDP. I got mine in September this year for the equivalent of 150GBP. I used PBO to get 5800X performance while avoiding the 5800X's heat issues.
tell me how?
yeh i'm curious as the other guy
@@IBims1Mark PBO On. PPT 118, TDC 79, EDC 120. Curve Optimizer off (it was never stable for me). Undervolted by setting a negative offset of -0.05 for the CPU Core Voltage. Scores 14.9k in Cinebench R23, just like the CPU in this video, but it doesn't go over 85C with a Noctua NH-D12L, even when it's 30C in my room. It will crack 15k if I completely remove the PBO limits, but then heat becomes an issue. Motherboard is B450-A PRO MAX. Had a 1600AF before.
@@r34ztune11you can do better than that.
@@TimberWulfIsHere Not without sacrificing heat and noise. I don't care for getting 100% performance with 100% power when I can get 95% performance with 70% of the power. I like having a quiet PC so I aim to find the efficiency sweet spot when overclocking/undervolting. I used to go all out overclocking and I realized that strategy only gives me very little more performance for much more heat and noise.
Been running one for a few months with a 5700XT, and it's an excellent 1080p budget combo for about £300. AM5, DDR5 and all that is great, but latter-end AM4/DDR4 is just too acceptable to justify the immediate jump for me. Before this I had a 1700X, and it lasted me just over six years before I really felt the need to jump ship. (though keeping in mind, I mostly play fighting games and more e-sports-y FPS). I reckon this generation of Ryzen will probably end up the CPU form of what Pascal was for so long, just sitting at the top of Steam component charts for the next half a decade because it's very affordable and "good enough" for the vast majority of people.
My 2400g boost to 4500 worth $50 is big jump aswell
If only 5700X gets to $120 asap i might get one soon😂
Or the 5800x3D used for $199
As the AM5 platform gets more adoption I think there's going to be a good amount of 5800x3d's on the market in the next few years.
@@HuntaKiller91 Where are you getting the 3d version for 199 ? Do tell bro as I am about to build a setup next week.
Got a r5600x and a rx 6700xt and the performance exceeded far my expetations especially for the price! Perfect for 1440p with most games over 100 fps. Some new games need some graphics tweaking but still 100 fps+ and great visuals. Im happy.
I upgraded from my old 1600x to the 5700x 2months ago
Amazing CPU
And it's very efficient
This is the kind of upgrade the cheap 5700x is great for. Really boosting old AM4 systems. The benefit of a platform with such unparalleled longevity. I hope AMD repeats this with AM5.
We can only hope. I'm fine with my 7600x atm but would be awesome to be able to upgrade in a couple generations with just a simple slot in instead of having to buy a whole new motherboard.@@GeorgePerakis
My last rig was a 5700X and a 3070. Ran lots of games really well at 1440p. I don't remember any particular issue that I had with it. VRAM was probably my biggest issue.
I run a 5800X3D and 6800XT now and it's monstrous at 1440p.
Anyone looking at getting the 5700X CPU as an upgrade will be very satisfied imo. I didn't overclock it, but it self turbos to about 4.4 GHz (according to Armory Crate and NZXT Cam at least).
I have the same combo and it is truly beastly for 1440p. I wasn’t sure about the x3d but I was surprised it did lead to more stable framerates. I am a bit anxious about the next few years though, hopefully it will last for a few more years
@@MrBones105 I think it will last quite a while, especially with how expensive a lot of components are becoming now. I can run Baldur's Gate 3 at a steady 120 fps (custom frame rate cap) without any FSR options enabled and just about everything set to High or Ultra. Single-Player Tarkov runs very well for me even with a bunch of mods installed, and the Modern Warfare 1 & 2 reboots run near flawlessly. Most of my other games are indie games or somewhat unoptimized JRPGs, but those run beautifully after a few graphical tweaks.
Disabling VSync actually helped me with frame stutters, and I barely notice any screen tearing if it's there. Don't doubt the combo, friend. This CPU and GPU are incredible and will make it through at least two more generations imo.
Do you have an nzxt motherboard? Is nzxt cam worth the install?
@@T.Lspitz Sorry for late reply. NZXT Cam is decent, but a lot of AIOs that you can purchase require that you download the software to be able to adjust it. I don't have an NZXT mobo. It's just recognized through the USB header to the pump.
I went from a 3600x to a 5700x a year ago and the 5700x surprised me when I upgraded to a 4070ti at 1440p. Every game is smooth and the low power draw and temps was the cherry on top!
I bought a 5700 X earlier this year as price difference to 5600 X was a whopping 1 Euro.👍
Here the difference was 10 euro so it was a no-brainer as well haha
Yeah, $10 difference here too, so got the 5700x, lol.
Couple months back updated my B350 board from a R5 1600 / gtx1070 to R7 5700x and RX6650XT. Doesn't disappoint at all, very happy with the very noticeable gains from both and the system in general. Cost per performance upgrade great value, best my PC has seen without the need of updating anything else. Will be good for a little while now, however next upgrades will need to be system wide...
Upgraded to ryzen 7 5800x from FX8350 on Black Friday and am SO happy.
enjoy heating
I have to say : I've been missing a channel like this for years ! I feel that most just talk about the latest and greatest (and most expensive). They all test at very high/ultra and they don't try to turn down settings. Finally a channel for us that don't puke money on a daily basis :D I need a new gaming rig for my son, and thanks to your channel I think I know what cheap gpu to get him and shockingly i also think i know what cpu to pair it with ! I see a bright future for this channel, just don't forget us when you start bringing in the big youtube bucks :)
I just built a new pc to replace my 5yo R53600 and RX580 with the R7 5700x and a 6700xt. The improvements were very worth the effort and I'll most likely be on this rig for at least 5 years. Like you, I'm over seeing the 4090 builds that cost more than I make a month. I won't build an AM5 until I can do it under $800usd all in without flat out getting the cheapest hardware available.
I bought a B450 + R5 1600 combo in 2018 and it's been the best investment in computing I've ever made. To think I can have so much performance still is nuts. Thinking of dropping my R5 1600 + RX 580 combo and going for a 5700G since I don't game much on PC, particularly new games.
AM4 is one of the best platforms in history, bar none.
Just bring your Radeon gpu, you happen to have a good one, it’ll help your ryzen 7 when you do editing with the 8gb vram or 4gb vram
@@ShawtyBussin decided not to do anything of the sort, left this as my workstation and bought a Steam Deck instead. Got a good deal on a used (like new) 64GB model. Been LOVING IT.
Just in case anyone is wondering. Iceberg's signature high energy, high momentum benchmarks are done with a track labeled as "Midnight Racer" on RUclips.
Ah! Wonder why they changed the track name? It used to be called "The Doc Will See You Now"!
@@IcebergTech I was searching for awhile using that name. Finally found it under "Midnight Racer" authored by "backing tracks"
Midnight Racer definitely suits it. I'm putting this track on phone for motorcycling through city at night :D
The 7700 at least on Ali express is starting to get super cheap as well( like under 200 usd with codes).So I don’t know how much longer the 5700x will hold on with ddr5 and b650 motherboards getting cheaper by the month. It’s amazing how much more cpu power you can hit now then 4 years ago particularly compared to gpus massive price hikes!
Yes!
At my place, we have zen 4 7500f per smth like 130-140$. This cpu is definitely better than 5700x, the equal multi core performance and, accordingly, much more singlecore performance.
7500f can work absolutely fine on any motherboard, even cheap a620 per 80$.
The only difference is price of ddr5, anyway, for really good performance you need 6000 cl30 memory, but, anyway, this is just maybe 40$ more than good ddr4 kit.
Maybe for the cheap&minimal upgrade 5700x is ok, but no point in buying him from scratch
The 5700X is a great upgrade for the many MANY existing AM4 systems. And for people who are extremely budget constrained but need multicore performance. People with high budgets should obviously look at AM5, and people with very constrained budgets should get the 5600.
@@Bashed44 You can get AM4 motherboards for 50 and 16 gigs of DDR4 RAM for 30. Couple that with a 5600 for 100 and you have the cheapest but still good gaming setup on the market right now. AM5 simply cannot match AM4's price to performance proposition, not even with CPUs I can only find on Ali, and those come wirh heavy tariffs in the EU.
@@Bashed44 As a mater of fact the 7500f/7600/7600x will even beat the 5800x3d when overclocked to 5.625ghz all core and using ddr5 6400 CL28. I got mine to score 16350 in multi core and 2050 in single core on cinebenchR23
@@juice7661 according to tests, 5800x3d just a bit faster than any r5 7000 in games, and even worse in multicore/singlecore
It's good and cheap way to upgrade your am4 setup, but if you buy a new kit, no need to buy it, it not worth it, new ryzen 5 are great processors
My best purchase going from a ryzen 5 2600 to this ryzen 7 5700x paired with a rx 6700 it made huge upgrade in fps. It's the best price to performance cpu
So I need to point at some things..
1. The 5700X's PPT is ~76w at stock
2. You let the Ryzen Master OC the cpu to the max which means it will hit up to PPT ~120w and will operate at much higher temps
Testing the 5700X at stock ~76w and OC ~120w will make the 1-2% difference in gaming.. a lil bit more in all core workloads.
I also have the 5700X and I'm cooling it with Phantom Spirit 120 and the CPU barely hits 50 degrees (cinebench), ~45 degrees in gaming (stock ~76w PPT).
DO NOT test the cpu at OC ~120w PPT because the whole testing is just wasted.
what OC to use to have the performance of an 5800x?
damn. My 5800x is cooled by an ak620 and the lowest temps I saw was 70c on gaming load. It's undervolted as well.
@@IBims1Mark there is only 1% difference in gaming between these cpus at stock settings. I ain't going to tell you how to oc the 5700X because it is completely pointless.. it will eat much more power for literally zero difference in gaming. 5700X eats ~60w and 5800X ~90w+ in gaming.
@@IBims1Mark 95-98w PBO with optimal Curve Optimizer settings sounds reasonable.
@@avexirrazelea8435 Yes, the 5800X runs quite hot, even while undervolted. That's why I took 5700X (used for 130€)
Props for actually putting the product in the title.
A few months ago, in my region, the ryzen 5700x was the absolute king of performance per dollar. Cheap motherboard, cheap DDR4, and the processor was about 150usd with tax. The only realistic thing that could improve the deal would had been an included wraith cooler
Honorable mention, being if you live near a Microcenter (or know somebody who does)... The exclusive 5600X3D outshines the 5700X in gaming results, even with two fewer cores.
Been watching your channel for a few weeks now since getting back in to PC building. Love the channel bro. Waiting for the randomgaminghd collab ;)
Oh my god you're a lifesaver, I was looking to upgrade my pc but I was gonna go for a slightly lower gpu than you are using at the moment and I was using cpu benchmark to get an idea of what is good. I didn't realise that the ryzen 7 5700x was equivalent to the rx 6900xt, I was gonna go for a much higher spec cpu but now you've saved me 150 quid. You're so useful!!!
most of the time it provides little more performance than the 5600x, so it isnt a great value. Jumping to the 5800x3d is the worthwhile purchase if you want more performance than the 5600x
That’s fair but games are continuing to utilize more cores.
Depending on your OS (bloated down) having the extra cores might not be a bad idea.
Ryzen 7500f…. YES! I just ordered one a well for a few US dollars under $160.00 shipped. Really looking forward to building a new rig with it.
Amazing CPU!! got mine as Part of a bundle and is Performing like a champ! BPO's to 5.2ghz without breaking a Sweat! run's Great with my 4070! and open's up the door for Zen 5 or possiblely Zen 6 upgrade down the line! cant Wait to ICEBERG test it!😁👍👍
Went from a 1700X + RX480 to a 5700X + RX 7800 XT on the same platform. AM4 is the absolute GOAT.
I'm expecting to use the 5700X for the rest of this decade. For general productivity you really can't get better value (in terms of CPU + mobo + RAM cost). One of the standout traits is how cold it runs, so you can run it all day in a hot climate without the room getting uncomfortably warm.
This is exactly what I hope to do. If anything maybe my rtx3090 will carry my 5700x to the finish line in the final couple years lol
$150 5700X + $20 Thermalright Assassin X + $75 AsRock B550 Pro SE + $50 32GB 3200 CL16 = $295
@@itsatrap4986 + GPU(of reasonable performance for modern gaming) $250-$1200
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@@T.Lspitz Yeah minimum a 6700XT and 6900XT is where I'll stop.
Crying in 3700X. The fact that relic tech reviewers like Iceberg Tech is reviewing a processor that succeeds mine kinda stings. But then again, it's not like I can't afford to upgrade. I have no reason to yet. The 3700X I have is still alive and kicking strong. It is bottlenecking my RX 6800 XT tho, but then again, my monitor's refresh rate caps at 144hz.
"Relic tech reviewer" may be on my new channel banner 🤣
something I've noticed with higher thread count cpus (16+) is that in games that dont use alot of cores, the cpu will frequently switch cores and cause frame drops. Particularly if the core it switched to was idle beforehand.
soooo what you are saying is that manually assigning core affinity might fix all this? Good to know!
Yes in game and in this because game (not all) are not optimised, even if they don't optimise it to take davantage of all cores they should at least assign core to specific task and it souldn't change in the middle of the game
doubt it
Excellent CPU overview. I was also surprised we didn't see better 1% lows. Still the price makes it an interesting option. I could see 5700, now, then uograding to 5800x3d or 5950x in a few years before moving onto AM5 some years later.
Dope video. I'm becoming a bigger fan of your videos (I still have a few early model CPU's with projects I want to add them to). As a 9700K/RTX 2060 user, would you recommend switching up to the 5700X? I don't play brand new games on my machine and when I do, it's mostly emulation (Wii U, PS3, Switch, 360) and racing games (sometimes Hogwarts Legacy and badly waiting for Jedi Survivor to get much better through updates before purchasing it or sailing the high seas). Also, my dual monitor setup is 1440p and I'm with switching to 1080p or capping at 60fps.
Hold on to the 9700K for a couple more years and get an AM5 motherboard + CPU instead
@@BigBrosFilms Thanks. Would you say the same for those photo editing and video editing (mostly 1080p rendering but maybe 4K editing while rendering 1080p)?
Iceberg's music selections and the timing of them in his videos have induced a Pavlovian response in my brain. Well done; I'm officially addicted.
Purchased a Ryzen 7 5700X for about 150€ during Black Friday paired with an RTX 4060 OC, will be building the PC next week. Major upgrade from the i7-4790 lol.
Get a used 3060, has %50 more vram and same ish performance
Finally Some 5700x love, it is a very underrated CPU for its price point compared to what it offers
I received my R5 5600 2 days ago and the performance of the 5000 series cpus has left me speechless.
A few months ago I was also commissioned by a friend of mine to also build them a brand-new system and I snagged a 6950 XT and a 5700x alongside it which was extremely impressive for his 1440p heavy gaming needs.
No 5800X3D on the commissioned build to assist with 1% lows? That's the one people keep saying is like the GTX 1080 Ti of CPU's. Well, there is still an over $100 price difference, so if there's a tight budget in mind it makes sense... Just saying since the 5800X3D will probably be relevant until AM6 releases.
@@savagej4y241 I considered it but I asked my friend if they wanted a better gpu or a better cpu and what they'd be doing with the pc. They wanted to play more graphically intensive games so we went with the more powerful gpu. The total budget was 1400 euros and it was done in ~May.
@@KneeCutter Makes sense- with a €1400 budget, 6950 XT would take up almost half of it. Have to cut a corner somewhere, so the CPU would be it in that case.
@K.C-2049 I have a 5800X3D, allow me to let you in on an open secret: it is such an excellent undervolter that you can adjust it down to, say, 1.0275V and it will still auto-overclock with PBO to 4.4GHz. This massively brings down temps from stock- about 10°-15°C both idle and under load with a decent cooler. A $40 Thermalright Assassin or the like is more than sufficient for cooling. It does not require an expensive cooling solution. This also reduces actual wattage draw of the 5800X3D to 50-60 watts, which brings it within the 65W TDP expectation of the 5700X at stock.
The only reason to choose the 5700X would be the lesser base price due to having a limited budget, which is perfectly reasonable. But those other factors are in fact, non-factors with minimal and uncomplicated tweaking. Its almost criminal how high the voltage setting is at stock on the 5800X3D, because it is utterly unnecessary and the culprit of its perceived energy inefficiency.
I upgraded to this CPU a few months ago I got the CPU and a MSO B550 Pro motherboard for around £280 I upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600 and A320 Board. I get almost the same clocks but I get a lot better temps in synthetic temps I only have a cheaper air cooler but it maxes out at 73c and sits at 4.65GHz all the time during the synthetic tests I also score higher in the synthetic tests. My next upgrade will have to be a new GPU as I recently got a bargain on a brand new 1440p 165Hz monitor and my RTX 3060 is having a hard time now.
wow the precise CPU I use right now I have been on the AM4 platform for a fairly long time now I upgraded from a Ryzen 5 2600X upto a Rtzen 7 5700X several months ago and it was a huge boost for me not only in IPC but it helped a lot with games that use more multi-threading I saw better performance in games like AC Odyssey as well as Cyberpunk the latter game being rather CPU heavy with the 2.0 Update.
Nice video. Always interesting to see what is out there. Just recently back on AMD myself and my first Ryzen based system. Got a R5 1600 AF basically for free with a trade. Only part I had to buy new was the motherboard. So far I am quite pleased with it and videos like this are a good reminder that I still have an upgrade path that will keep me going for awhile on a budget.
my 5600x boost to 4.85mhz single core and all i did was click auto overclock in the adrenilian driver program. pretty happy with it , its never held me back so far.
The current levels required for 1080p and 1440p gaming are unlikely to change much, and haven't for a while. True, new hardware comes out and games get more demanding, but what you can get for your money has been pretty stable for years now, and with people less willing to spend money for the latest hardware the majority of Gamers work with ... :
PC GPU: RTX 1050 Ti to RTX 3060, which about matches the Radeon RX 6300 / 680M (R7 7735HS) to RX 5700 XT / 6600 XT
Consoles: About the level of a RX 6700 XT or RTX 3060 Ti
VRAM: 8GB to 12GB
CPU: Zen 2 Ryzen 8 Core ( like Ryzen 7 3700X ) / Intel 12Th Gen 10+ Core ( like Core i5-12500H )
RAM: 16GB to 32GB
With AM4 supporting up to Zen 3, this means it is and will remain an interesting option for low- to mid-range gaming for a pretty long time.
The Ryzen 7 5700X isn't the only interesting option here, just the best compromise. If for instance you want a strong gaming PC, you might want the R7 5800X3D instead which gets you near an AM5 in gaming performance, or if you want additional multithreading computation power there also is the R9 5900X .
Aside from that there are many options for simpler Office to low-tier CPUs such as the Ryzen 5 4500, and AMD intends to release two new CPUs on top of things: The Ryzen 5 5500X3D and Ryzen 7 5700X3D - AM4 is far from obsolete.
Honestly, if I had any say in this I would keep the AM4 around as an entry level solution even for the foreseeable future.
Back to topic:
For everything up to mid-range, just get yourself an R7 5700X with 2x16GB DDR4-3600 and pair it with either an RTX 3060 12GB or RX 6700 XT 12GB and you are good for years to come.
nah no joke it was my birthday 2 days ago and i just put a new build together and thats the heart of the build, fantastic deal
I upgraded to the r7 5700x from the r5 2600, Massive difference in performance in newer cpu intensive games and well worth the 160 dollars I spent on it.
I have one and I love it. Runs way better than my old Ryzen 2600. I`ve also applied the -30 PBO 2 curve optimizer and it does wonders
What gpu?
@@SirBrucie 2070 Super
Good video. I don't think you have nearly as much of a gpu bottleneck as you think you do. If/When you upgrade to a 5800x3d then I bet you'll see average fps increases at 1080p with the rx 6900xt.
The 5600x has the same ipc as the 5700x, the extra cores often don't scale as much as we'd think they would.
For average FPS it depends, some games would get a benefit from the 5800X3D but many others wouldn't compared to having a 5700X. The real benefit is in the 1% lows- obliterates stuttering that happens sometimes on last gen hardware.
This makes me happy that I bought a 5600X when I did, though it does appear that maybe the 2 extra cores of the 5700X really did not help much in most games and it seems that the 5600X and RTX 2080 Super I have paired with it seem to work beautifully together.
The 5700x can handle my 4070 ti very well with most next gen games at maximum graphics settings at 1440p resolution.
Im glad this video got recommended to me i just got a 5600 and was thinking of getting a 5700x im mostly a warzone players and nobdy benchmarks this game and suddenly i see a 5700x is the same as 5600x im glad about that i was thinking id get the 5700 and just update the platform next time but i went 3600 to 5600 in hopes of getting a cheap x3d cpu in the future. i was planing on overclocking the 5600 tho hopefully that doesnt cause crashes
After using a rx7600 and 2600x I can tell you that a good cpu is very appreciated
I think this one is a good call, thanks for bringing it to my attention. Though won't be for a while yet, i've no gaming time right now sadly
I recently picked this up for $170 on sale. Moving from a 3600, I still got decent performance uplift, I was surprised how cool this thing runs. I use the Noctua NH-12 Redux cooler and I usually see temps around 45C or lower in most gaming workloads.
Is it very worth it? I also have a 3600, but I only bought it a few months ago because it was very cheap. The CPU does a good job and is light years faster than my old FX 8350. But now think that maybe should have gone for the Ryzen 5700X straight away. Now I'm thinking about maybe selling my 3600 and getting a Ryzen
5700X. But then again, the 5700X isn't that much faster than the 3600 when look at benchmarks. Only play at 60HZ anyway.
The 3600 is still a capable gaming CPU. As long as you're not pairing it with anything higher than a 6700XT.@@blabla7310
I upgraded my GPU to a 7800XT, but something didn't feel right, it wasn't performing as good as I expected.
Turns out my 3600 was holding it back, upgraded to a 5700X, now it gets is full potential.
Got mine also from July this year. Huge discount along with an ASRock b550m Steel legend. Coming from an i5 10400f, my productivity for work and gaming has greatly improved. I don't upgrade for years but since my work needs much more multitasking and processing power, the R7 5700x suits my budget. In the end, this will serve me well and I will be able to save up for a more complete upgrade on a new processor architecture, memory modules, and GPUs in the future, to be honest, in a very very long time.
A very interesting proposition would be the 5700g. you can disable the iGPU, (but itll always be there for troubleshooting which is nice) and PBO2 overclock it and increase the TDP a little, to match a 5700X in performance, while also having a cooler in the box, all for a cheaper price than the 5700g!
Hmmm, the overclocking reduces the 5700G's price, eh?
while true, the g chips lose a considerable amount of l3 cache and pcie gen 4 support, 5700x is far more future proof, especially with what gpu makers are doing with pcie4x8 gpu's for midrange gamers
5700G do not match 5700x performances
These videos are so calming
The temp of this CPU is insane, it runs so hot that after like 15 min of gaming it stables around 80 degrees C.
I've upgraded from the 3700X that I had from when it launched to the 5700X back in April and it's a nice upgrade from gaming to production. Paired with a tower cooler, upped the power limits, increased the boost clocks and put the CO to -30, this thing flies in everything I've thrown at it and all for the 186€ I got it for at that time.
If you already have the 3700x I dont think the 5700x is enough of an upgrade. Should have saved money for the 5800x3d for gaming or the 5900x for production.
@@GeorgePerakis I don't really care about the 5800X3D that much, it's still way over 320€ new in my country compared to the 5700X at 176€ currently. This was pretty much my last investment into AM4 as a platform anyway. Budget is tight currently, saving up rather for AM5 right now or go AM6, if they decide to go with that earlier.
The reason it was a nice upgrade is because the 3700x was trash. (As an owner of one in 2019)
@@BonusCrook I disagree, I really was happy with mine, but upgraded to the 5700X since cost wise it was quite cheap after I sold the 3700X for the gains I have now.
@@DaWolftrax you disagree with the 3700x bring a bad CPU for the time by saying you were happy?
Been thinking of picking one of these up to upgrade my ageing Ryzen 1600
same for me. i’m currently waiting to see what black friday/cyber monday sales might have in store.
I upgraded from a ryzen 5 3400G to a r7 5700x and literally 2x-3x my fps on average on cyberpunk, insane performance on cinebench too, my 5700x outpaced an 5800x in points with a good cooler it never even dipped into 80°C at like 4.8-4.9GHz.
Using a Thermalright 120 peerless assassin.
And If you research on Undervolting your 5700x people have been reporting fps improvements while using less power and running cooler. Fps increases are very very minimal but measurable.
Zen5 will be interesting in a few months...
I currently run a Ryzen 7 5700X rig with RX 6750 XT and 64GB RAM. Runs like a dream for the money.
I was about to buy one, but then I saw the leaks about the 5500x3D and the 5700x3D and I became hesitant. Do you think I should wait for them? (I'm from Europe, maybe they'll also be USA exclusive so idk.) I'd pair it with a 3060 ti
Most games are gpu bottlenecked (due to lazy or non-existent optimization practices).
Im rocking the 5600x and all the games ive played rarely use much above 50% cpu.
Its totally your choice but remember the new 'x3D' style of chips are more the exception and not the rule, meaning games dont NEED it...
@@watchout5508 CPU usage isn't everything, my 3600 is around 70% in cyberpunk and the GPU barely working at 60% without rt. I don't even get 60 fps in the city where there are many npcs.
@Nick-nf1kd yehh, thats why i said a cpu will last far longer than a gpu, simply cause modern (AAA) developers prioritize graphics over the simulation aspect. Everything is basically set dressing, so a great gpu will like just as long as a average cpu (IMO)
Got this almost 6 months ago, upgraded from a R7 2700X and the difference is HUUUUGE, I remember playing Destiny 2 and on certain parts of the map I would drop to 40-50 fps when everywhere else I would be 90 fps (v sync) but with the R7 5700X I was on 90 fps constantly anywhere
This spring I got the 5700x & 6700xt pair for casual gaming and sometimes productivity. 4 extra threads over the 5600 so background tasks such as Windows Update and U Tube aren't noticeable. Bought brand new, mature tech at the end of their product cycles, less expensive, and don't plan to build a new machine for 5 years or more. If the CPU dies early, can always pick up a used 5800x3d down the road.
loving your videos, you seem like a great guy
Got one last Christmas as a present for a friend, replaced his 2600. Massive perf jump!
I purchased this CPU exactly one year ago. Ironic how the day you released the video is the anniversary of my 5700x build.
After careful consideration, I settled on 7600. I have a 3600, so I could have gone for a 5700x at $190, but the 5800x was $175 actually cheaper in USD.
However, when I thought about it, the gains at 1440p with a 3060ti were minimal. It just didn't seem worth it for a few percent increase at best. I briefly considered the 5800x3d for $280, but I didn't want to be too heavily invested in AM4 with no upgrade options in the future.
Instead, I decided to go for a 7600 at $200, a budget AM5 motherboard, and some inexpensive RAM. If I sell my old motherboard, RAM, and CPU, I could probably get around $150 as well.
This way, I can have a few more years of upgrades on a budget, especially with future generations as they become older. Plus, with the money from the resale, it doesn't seem like a bad deal at all.
a few months back i finally upgraded from a i7 2600k to a ryzen 5600, great cpu, just got a 7800xt last week from the 2060. should be set gpu wise for another 4-5 years, and down the road could upgrade to a 5950x if the six core becomes obsolete. Only thing is i dont really know how to overclock on the b550, and I can't get my ram past 3000mhz when it's advertised as ddr4 3200🤷. but the graphics are amazing and buttery smooth when i was playing hogwarts 4k ultra with fsr2 1440.
I used my super useful gpt-4 to help me deciding my new pc. I took only 3 days, where I generally need decades, considering how I gasp when I see the infinite sea of possibilities. It also helps you to avoid incompatibilities.
gtp-3 works fine, but actually is less precise; if you plan to get it, it will save your ass and a lot of time even in these things.
I personally got (basic components):
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING 12GB GDDR6
- SK hynix, SSD Platinum P41 2TB
- Ryzen 7 5700X
- MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK wifi (motherboard)
- Corsair Vengeance LPX16GB DDR4 3600
This should work very fine, and it will for years if you're not that demanding
As a 5700X owner, I would agree. I have mine undervolted, it runs cool and efficient. One of the best value CPU's of that generation.
Got mine nearly a year ago and im still in love with it - Was able to get -30 on PBO curve allcore, while +200MHz on top of turbo. PBO Preset is set to AMD setting, but boy - oh boy, if I set it to Mainboard setting... 16k points in r23 🤣🤣🤣
This makes me happy about my purchase haha
I bought one last year around Christmas time, and got a 6950xt to pair with it, for sub 1000$ I had one of the best setups you could get for the money and it’s still a flawless machine.
great stuff, you included the 6900XTin your review.
one step closer to getting it benched with an i3.
A fantastic value chip and consistent all-rounder. I prefer it to the 5800X3D.
I got mine in Feb for $150 with CoH 3 included and I have to say compared to my previous R5 3600 I'm quite happy with the performance. As a nice bonus I was able to pass my 3600 on to the wife and her r3 1200 on to the grandson and all three are happy with their machines.
built my 5700x pc with 6700xt last Dec 2022 and it is still the best purchase I ever made. I got the 5700x only around $200 that time.
I love ur vids dude
Im glad im not the only one who recommends the ryzen 7 5700x over the 5600 and 5600x
had this cpu for a while with a rx6750xt but it wasn't really good enough for 3440x1440 165hz gaming so I've upgraded and gave my old setup to my brother who's still using a 1080p monitor and he's been enjoying it - literally everything he's playing runs on ultras without any issues
And here I am in the market for a new CPU, upgrading from a 1700x.
Have looked into the 3600, but the prices were increasing from September.
So I started wonder about 5600.
But it also increased up to the black friday, but didn't get a discount, where I live. And the prices haven't dropped since.
5700X on the other hand is starting to look very very tasty.
Get a 5600 or a 5800X3D
On the 7500F, I believe the 5800X3 is faster in games, and the total platform cost will be cheaper. As for longevity, well, it'll last so long that you might jump to socket AM6. ;)
As a casual gamer its all i need
I picked up a 5700x last year around this time for $199usd, it came with Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection as a free gift, right now the 5700x is on my MSI B550 Mortar with 4 x 8Gb setup of 3600Mhz Cl 14, it is paired with an Intel Arc A 770 16Gb made by Sparkle as like you something to play with and helping test Intel Arc on AM4 platform, I have a few videos up with the 5700x / A770 working together as Intel drops drivers.
God damn my new headphones have some thicc base action in the intro😎
Decent modern chip. Yeah, you're stuck on AM4 but if you want to make a decent budget build and pair it with an RX 6650 XT or RX 7600 ... it's a pretty damn good value.
There's still the ryzen 5800x3d you could upgrade to eventually if you get a more powerful gpu down the road, so it's not a completely dead end platform. 5600 or 5700x with a decent Radeon is definitely one of the best performance per $ you can get right now.
these are actually almost my specs(i have a 3060 tho), so it really helped me
10:15 The newer call of duty games are notorious for not utilizing the proper amount of threads that a cpu has. I have a i5 11th gen chip and it defaults in the config to only use 4 cores. Not sure if this is at all related to your issues, but it is worth checking out. What I have resorted to is go in game set all the settings to my liking, then close the game to desktop. open the config file and set the correct amount of core usage, then set the config file to read only. For me it says
//Thread count for handling the job queue
worker_threads = "4" // 2 to 4
And I change it to
//Thread count for handling the job queue
worker_threads = "6" // 2 to 6
I did some experimenting with putting my actual threads vs physical cores..seemed to work better just using the core count for me. If might also differ between intel and amd cpu as I have heard. Sorry for such long message but this is pretty infuriating that call of duty can't even utilize CPU properly.. its absurd.
you know you're a smart shopper when you buy a cpu then see a video like this about it. i got mine used on amazon for $120 instead of $160 and it was basically just a brand new returned cpu.
Ty that s what I needed
It's quite reassuring seeing this recommended to me after just ordering one
You should have bought the 12600K 💀
I do recommend not running an overclock or curve optimizer. Although results may vary, I found there were always some anomalies where the performance was reduced or would have behavior issues. I decided to run my 5700x with the auto pbo and nothing else, and it does hit 4.8ghz single core while gaming with air cooling. The 1% and 0.1% low performance in this video has me suspicious that the chip was not running as well as it might have on default. Even though Ryzen Master software is AMD's first party software, i found whenever I ran the curve optimizer that i would have issues with stuttering and crashing eventually. I am using a gigabyte B550, so the default motherboard settings can matter as well I suppose.
Great video my man! Also really enjoyed the Radeon VII video, keep 'em coming! :)
a 5700x can't do too much. but a mild -curve optimizer is almost never bad. Won't make it any faster. And almost certainly don't be surprised if you can't go past -10 on these.
But anything is a gain there.
Use BIOS for this rather than ryzen master, and forget that ryzen master auto OC + CO feature, just curve optimize it.
You should spend time on memory clocks if you want it to be any faster (also probably not worth)
Great video good sir!
Back in April 2023, I bought an new RTX 4070 but still had a Ryzen 3600, I live in Southern California and when I was scrolling through offerup, a guy locally was selling an unbox new Ryzen 5700x for $100 USA , I messaged him asking why so cheap and he said it’s cause for his birthday he was gifted the cpu as well as a 5800x, so he selling other for cheap, I got extremely lucky lol
my dearest's pc got an upgrade.. 5700x, mobo and 2x16gb ram cost just under 300 pounds :D added a 28 pounds peerless assassin 120 se. perfection, imho.
locked at 4.2 and undervolted. it is beautiful!
ye i like this cpu. mine runs all cores 4800Mhz . the difference between pbo and all core is like 2000 points in cinebench r23 . that is like 13% more !
i get over 16k and i have seen the new am5 7600 that is a six core cpu that gets like 14.9k . cheers!
hey bro please reply will gtx 1660 super or 2060 super be a good option for xeon e3 1230 v3 1600mhz ram . please recommend a good to pair with it i want atleast a card better than rx 580 1060
Something I'd like to point out. Yer missing out on some additional performance (and temp headroom). Proper BIOS setup is key (instead of using crummy software). You'll want to go in and set up an undervolt via curve optimizer (I have mine running -20 on all cores). Also, you want to push the PBO2 max boost to as high as it'll go (should be +200 MHz). With this setup, my 5700X hits 4.85 GHz vs. yer 4.75GHz and averages 80C in a Cinebench R23 (15,600 multi and 1,570 single) 10 min loop on a 240mm AIO.
bought the 5700x two months ago for around €160, as an upgrade from my R3 3100, and it's simply incredible, it handled everything I trowed at it from gaming to video editing and 3D modeling, it's a great pair with my 5700xt
Interesting pairing.... 3100 and 5700xt... pretty sure that is a pretty decent bottleneck, so I can see why you are so satisfied :). Best value am4 cpu besides the 5600 and 3600
@@appsaucetech haha originally I had and RX580 paired with the 3100, so it was a balanced build, but one month before I bought the 5700x I saw the 5700xt for very good price, so bought already thinking on a cpu upgrade, so the 5700x was the right CPU on the right time
Bought mine last summer for 169 euro, used a 3600 before that.
I use DaVinci resolve a lot and the difference between the cpu's is truly massive.
Battlefield 2042 also runs WAY better, truly a night and day difference.
Enlisted and War Thunder also gained about 40 fps.
Oh and mine never exceeds 76 degrees, with a budget tower cpu cooler and only 2 fans in a midi case.
I am running a Ryzen 7 3800X that has comparable specs but was waaaay cheaper. And you know 'buying into an obsolete system' is kinda a moot thing with these chipsets as they all can run 100 of the top 100 games in 2023 at over 60 FPS but that is just me, the system I built has no RGB and the case is flat black because chrome don't get you home to use an old truckers expression. All in all I am pretty happy with the boot times, the playability and the temps that this new system provides :)
Thanks for the video super scripting, editing and content as usual
Comparable ≠ same