What’s Next For 2D Mario?
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2023
- Nintendo LOVES to keep secrets, and the ABSOLUTELY SUCK AT IT. Game announcements, online multiplayer, and seemingly a sequel to Mario wonder?
A few days before Mario wonder's release, Nintendo released an interview with their development team. In the interview, they mentioned how they had over 2,000 ideas for the game. The last time they said something like this was for Breath of the wild, and they ended up turning those ideas into DLC and Tears of the Kingdom. Not only that, but its the exact same story with Mario galaxy 2.
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I think he likes luigi
I think its the opposite
He likes him gets bullied
You Forgot To Add "To Die"
He probably played Luigi Galaxy.. That 2nd run through was so difficult 😭
@@kyro_kartier i’m not sure if you’re joking or if you really mean Luigi U 😅😅
If SMBW gets a sequel I’d like to propose more Boss fight variety. The final boss is cool, yeah, and I’d be fine with 1 or 2 Junior battles, but they really missed an opportunity to use the Wonder Flower effects to enhance various enemies to turn them into bosses, kinda like how NSMBDS went about its boss fights
Yeah bosses were the most notable disappointment in Wonder. First thing I thought of to address in a potential follow-up.
I agree. I like Switch games but majority of the games did not have much variety in terms of level design and bosses.
I thought they would have the ability to combine caps as well
Maybe they could lean into it a bit like rayman legends or something similar. Having dramatic or very goofy bosses would be really cool.
Having no deadline is the sole reason why this game feels so good
ikr
I have thought of some dlc for wonder that would be cool if it would happen
Basically it’s where bowser goes to the mushroom kingdom taking the flowers with him, making a bunch a new wonder effects as there in a whole new kingdom and maybe they could also go to Sahrasaland or something
I’d rather they make a more traditional alternative 2D Mario. Wonder is a more gimmicky 2D Mario, I want a new super Mario bros. U sequel with 3D art style and no wonder flower/seed or elephant mario
I think it would be good if they kept to the flower kingdom for a game or 2 just expanding on the first game like it wasn’t perfect.
Also maybe dlc might be announced at the game awards
Sarasaland would make much more sense as it’s smaller than the flower kingdom and is much less boring than the mushroom kingdom
@@Kirby_BallZ Very doubt it, I think this is just a experimental side project and not mainline. They are starting a new style of 2D Mario in parallel to NSMBU and they would rather develop on wonder.
It could actually have good bosses-
That's how you can make it better.
Agreed
i mean yeah the final boss was cool and bowser jr was.... repetitive. and they do have a lot of potential. hey missed the chance to use wonder effects to turn enemies giant like they did the hoppycats in shining falls. just like NSMBDS.
@@Nooby911 I did like the final boss tbh. But it did feel a little too easy.
We should've had a harder version to fight tbh.
i completley agree@@MegamanGuy444
its interesting. One thing ive learned that when youre a small development team, deadlines are necessary. It doesnt even matter if you dont have any reason to have a deadline, make a deadline or nothing will ever get done.
But it seems for larger studios, deadlines arent always necessary. Sure you gotta have em' for some games, but some projects can more than get away with not having any.
Imagine special new villian like evil Poplin and make him work with Bowser and take over both kingdoms and a new way to travel between mushroom and flower Kingdom that would be awesome
If there was a goomba like equivalent to poplins that join bowser similar to how goombas were toads that betrayed the mushroom kingdom and joined bowser, that would be amazing to see
There is so much I want to see in a Wonder 2 or DLC!
*return of certain power-ups, especially the Ice Flower
*the koopalings appear as bosses and each have different wonder effects
*new playable characters, possibly including Rosalina and Birdo (as an easy character like Nabbit and the yoshis)
*new badges mixed with the ones from the first game
*possible new characters
*few more cutscenes
*of course more wonder effects original and new combined
I’m surprised the ice flower didn’t return because the game takes place in the FLOWER kingdom. I also want the broodals to come back as bosses
I gotta say, I really didn’t like being able to collide with friends and Im glad it’s gone but I think it should be a toggle to accommodate both types of players, I also think the way online was implemented is perfect and think they hit the sweetspot for 2D Mario online functionality
Agree!
If they ever do make a Super Luigi Wonder I do want Mario to be playable, or at least, the person you save because why would Mario no-show to a big Luigi adventure?
A Mario Wonder sequel would be incredible, the ideas Nintendo showed on the first game and their thoughts on the amount they had gives me hope, awesome video :D
Hello.
Pixel spotted
Lag compensation for online multiplayer in a platformer like Mario is probably insanely difficult to do well, hence the ghosts
A way to twist things would be the koopalings for actually varied boss fights.
3:24
For me, it was memories of screaming at my siblings, getting yelled at by our parents because of that, and getting temporarily banned from the game.
I couldn’t be happier that those multiplayer gimmicks are gone and personally would be really mad if they decided to keep them in a sequel.
True
Same bro! I never got banned but my little brother got mad and stopped playing.
I don’t see how people think that multiplayer tantrums are fun, tbh, especially when you’re children.
(P.S. I’m more of a “sis”)
That’s not the fault of the game it’s a fault of the players.
@@Sevrgpro You clearly never played one of those games. Just by simply running you pick them up and by stopping running you throw them off the map…
The fact that they didn’t use the koopalings with unique wonder effects for some actually interesting boss fights is insane. The one game they would’ve actually been good in
I just want wario and waluigi in the next game
Too bad.
@@INFERNO95Not Waluigi time!
Maybe add them as like a dlc or something.
something tells me this guy might hate Luigi but its hard to say
Before I checked your sub count I would have thought you were at 500k or something! You deserve more subs bro keep up the great work
If they made the sequel longer, that would be nice, and I'd hope they would make it harder as well
Oh yeah, and WALUIG-
Super Mario Bros. Daydream, a spiritual sequel to SMB2/USA. The return to Subcon with all its enemies [including Birdos and Wart] and all-new ones!
Hear me out: given the supposed leak of a new 3D Mario game that has Mario visit different Nintendo franchises I propose some new twists for this game could be the new “wonder effects” changing the way the game plays straight up into something like Zelda 1 or classic Metroid and seeing how Mario would move in those games or even having it control like them, either or could work really but you do risk making the game TOO diverse by having the move set get changed. Anyways that my idea dump
Stop repeating crap from the net. It stupid idea anyway.
would be cool if the bonus levels were similar to the ones in ULTRAKILL - in the sense that the gameplay/genre completely changes for 1 level, then goes back to normal after
imagine going through a hidden warp pipe in the world map and winding up in a Mario & Luigi game
luigi is the best Luigi character from Mario. i love Luigi
I’d never seen a more bigger fan of Luigi than you!!!
Entertaining, good work! Glad to have subscribed
The sequel should include expanding the flower kingdom’s map. And the broodals make an appearance again
Bro, your content is so more polished then it was 9 months ago. Can't wait to see how you grow!
Will the sequel have better and more unique bosses? That's my question.
Or more then just 2 of them
I'm convinced they removed some of the basic expected features like local player collision or true online multiplayer so that it would be easier to improve upon with the enviable sequel.
Ah yes, making a Mario Maker 3 is super easy. All you have to do is add several new features and one or two new game styles that work completely differently from the rest. What a piece of the cake
Might need to limit the Mario Wonder aspects in Mario Maker 3 🤣
I feel like wonder effects should stay in the flower kingdom, in keeping with how ingesting plants is what produces psychedelic effects. Maybe they could make a mario wonder themed metroidvania in the flower kingdom. I’d play that.
I like no unique character traits it means I can still enjoy the game as blue toad
i think that having a setting to have multiplayer collision on or off would be a good way to solve the problem; playing with younger siblings is so much easier without it, but playing with friends is less fun and toxic too
Fun fact Mario 2 was the first Mario game where the characters had special powers
It is insane that Nintendo didn’t release an elephant Mario amiibo.
easy way to make a sequel better than Wonder
1: Good Bosses
2: More Challenging Level Design
They still left a lot to be desired, actual good bosses would be an easy fix
Love the that SMG4 thumbnail for the "Mario Battle Royale" part
Just found your channel, Love the content. Hope to see you grow in subscribers, you totally deserve it.
What is it with you wanting to bully Luigi? I swear, he's gonna be the villain of the next Mario platformer as Mr. L
I'm in the minority where I personally don't think Super Mario Wonder is perfect. If they were to change anything, I'd probably want a better boss battle for the Airships instead of those buttons, Wonder Flowers that just don't reuse concepts to make each level stand out more, better use for the purple coins aside from unlocking levels and standees, music levels that're more hectic like the Rayman games, Wonder Flowers that aren't just "YOU CAN SWIM IN LAVA NOW!" or "YOU'RE IMMUNE TO ELECTRICITY!", boss battles at the end of every world like I was so bummed out that Fungi Mines and Shining Falls did NOT have a boss, probably DON'T just use Bowser Jr. as your miniboss and get creative like the original New Super Mario Bros. DS, characters that aren't reskins and if they were reskins... can they just like... put it in an alternative costume section? .... I can go on. Like how they took away each character's individuality in favor of the badge system... but then give special powers to Yoshi. Like why can't Peach float with her dress? ALSO FOR GOD'S SAKES, GIVE THE FLOWERS MORE PERSONALITY. I feel like this is the first Mario game with "UMMM THAT JUST HAPPENED" humor.
Don't get me wrong! The game's great but a lot of stuff stood out to me..... but it's a hard 8 for me.
You are not in the minority. Everything you said about bosses is 100% true, kamek should’ve been the airship boss, and worlds 3 and 5 insulted me. Still, though, this game doesn’t reuse a lot of wonder effects, and most of them are pretty good, so 9/10 for me
Next mario game has the punch badge because i want mario to be able to punch and instead of the clay like models actually having the mario box art models and art style and having more flips when mario jumps flips and wall jumps
I have a game title idea for your “star kingdom” idea: Super Mario Bros. Wonder 2: The Stars Beyond.
You forgot to mention that it needs better Bosses
"How to make mario wonder better"
Let's start with the most obvious issue: all bosses are just bowser Jr.
Let's start with better bosses, shall we?
Poor Luigi he never gets a break lol 😂
Please no Giraffe Mario PLEASE... That would be even more cursed.
We basically got everything we needed out of the torso-extension wonder effect.
3:07 THOSE WERE THE *WORST* 2D MARIO MECHANIC!
I mean, all of Luigi’s video games on Super Mario 64 DS were gambling based… bruh canonically has a problem
ive had an idea, for a mario perk he could throw stuff like shells faster and higher when thrown upwards. idk a downside tho
So a sequel taking place in Sarasaland where Maro and friends help Daisy reclaim her kingdom from Bowser's cousin.
"Faisy"
Her name is daisy and bowser has no cousin.
@@INFERNO95 yeah, didn't realize I accidentally misspelled Daisy's name. Also the concept of Bowser having a cousin would be cool though
Maybe have Tatanga return.
Mario Wonder's sequel's villain shouldn't be Bowser. Or at least the main one. It should take place in the dream world where King Wart rules and controls Bowser, Bowser Jr., Koopalings, Boom Boom, etc. I'd love for villains like the Super Mario Bros. 2 ones with variety. And maybe then Bowser would team up with Mario like in SMRPG.
SUPER LUIGI WONDER : THE LOSTEST LEVELS
Featuring:
1. Murderous friendly-fire local bully multiplayer returns !
2. More varities of Fuzzies ! Uppers, downers, sidewaysers… Shout to Yoshi’s Island
3. Deliciously frustrating difficulty
This video is a great example of the timing/editing evolution, if you keep at least this tempo/tone …. 2024 and the Switch 2 are gonna grow your channel MF spectacularly !
Keep doing you, brethren !
Peace & blessings !
Great idea 👻
I think several things need to appear in Wonder 2 ….
1. SMB3 Racoon Tail power up for the craziest “high ceiling” levels in the game
2. 3dWorld’s cat suit power up for all the tough “climbing level ideas” they have. Or maybe even some Tom&Jerry inspired “common household hazards” levels.
3. More “fuzzy” variety, ala Yoshi’s Island …. Traditional wavy fuzzies, but also the uppers, downers, sidewaysers/wallwalkers, and many new consciousness-altering “fuzzies” per specific levels, that showcase such !
Tbf it was also hard to surpass BOTW, but they still did it anyways.
I will only accept the prospect of _Super Mario Maker 3_ if the game is entirely in 3D.
There is just one thing I want from the next 2D Mario, something I’ve been wanting for years now.
The blue shell power up from NSMB DS
And character choices, that’s only ever a good thing
I think one fairly universal consensus on what could've been better with Wonder is the bosses. More variety and ones as creative as the rest of the game was
Whatever they do, I hope they add Rosalina, Wario, and/or Waluigi. They could easily add new power-ups in a sequel as well, since Wonder only had a small handful of them.
Every Mario chcharacter don't need to appear in every Mario.
They’re not doing Mario Maker 3 because MM2 didn’t sell that well compared to their other games
One thing I’ve noticed but no one else has talked about is consistency. Ok hear me out Super Mario Bros it got a sequels being SMBLL SMB2 and SMB3. Then we got SMW and it got a sequel being Yoshis Island.Super Mario Land we then got SML2. New Super Mario Bros it got NSMBW, NSMB2 and NSMBU. So what does this show ur asking every mainline Mario (not counting the 3D games) have gotten a sequel so it would only make sense that they make a sequel to SMBW!
Yoshi island is more of a yoshi game then a sequel.
0:57 I was wondering that too
Also add an easy mode or an option to select the character who’d be immune so yoshi and the other purple rat can be played like the rest of the characters
I hope this video blows up! You make really good videos!
4:16 Actually, I don't like this idea. I see that many people wanted each character to have exclusive abilities, but I think that just ruins the game for people that prefer the mario controls but like other characters more. Like, Toad is my favorite character in the game but I wouldn't play him if his mechanics were different. Each character having unique mechanics just incentivises people to not play with their favorite character because they don't like their mechanics or just because there are easier/harder characters
I'm seeing a RUclipsr become successful before my eyes. It's a rare sight, and you've earned it.
i think if smb wonder was going to have a dlc or something like that it could be something like mario being late and bowser got to release his super wonder effet
I don't want character effects back, but I would like to be able to have different badges for each player, and maybe having between 0 and 3 badges equipped at the same time.
maybe mario could go home after a long adventure, then fall asleep and have a dream of mario wonder but things are different
good changes the battle mode from ds is so underrated
Don’t look at Rosalina’s browser history
wonder 2 will be out in 2025/2026 since wonder's engine is completed, taking away approx half of the development time
Very true! Did you read the ‘ask the developer’ interview as well? They mentioned how wonder has set the groundwork for future 2D Mario games
@@EndoRUclips didnt really read it, cant really count me as a giant nintendo fan as i never actually had a nintendo console, the only experience is my cousin's switch, tho he only had minecraft, should i get wonder for his bday?
I highly recommend it. It’s just pure fun, especially in multiplayer
Doubt it since the developers said they had no idea where to go for the next game
The character traits were removed because the badge system is generally better. Now you can have the same or similar effects on any character you like, and you don’t have to deal with any negative traits your favorite character may have.
Themes for Mario Maker.
3D World works because their theme is already based on a blocky world, and it wouldn't feel like too much of a betrayal to the original to turn it into a grid-based level editor. Things like 64, Sunshine or Galaxy have much more varied terrain, and it wouldn't make much sense to turn them into a grid-based level editor.
Maybe the reason why peach is playable in wonder, is because it’s a test to see how will the future post Mario games will have influence to make our damsel in distress playable in post main Mario games.
Mario eats a Psilocybin Mushroom and then takes DMT and LSD. The 3rd Game in this series' canon is Dr. Mario: Sobering Mario.
On behalf of the entire Luigi community, and as a proud owner of the book "Luigi A Number One", we are so happy that you're such a big fan of Luigi!
“Wonder is the best Mario Game.”
Don’t get me wrong I think Wonder is great, but Galaxy uses it as an Ash Tray
1:30 Ive got a salution thats more realistic and wouldn't need to have things be built from the ground up.
They need to make MW2 focus on the mechanics that took a back seat in the first game, and tone down the one that was front and center. In other words, they need to make the sequal focus more on the badges to get through levels and less on the wonder seed level mechanics.
Oh. Cute he loves luigi (:
Who's to say Nintendo wouldn't attempt adding a level builder into SMBW2?
2:16 when you said defeat bowser twice 🤣
I'd like for Prince Florian to grow into a butterfly for SMBW2.
if there is no talking flower I am gonna oof myself
Now that they established some of the mechanics, they can work to make this one more challenging
NO WAY LUIGY GAMBLES 🤯🤯🤯
I had this sort of epiphany when playing Wonder for the first time, everyone I knew predicted the bosses would go the Yoshi's Island route, where enemies became bigger and stronger. And going back to Yoshi's Island, I noticed there were enemies called Little Mousers and thought they were loosely related to Mouser from Super Mario Bros 2. Or could just be yet another coincidence from god knows when. Regardless that got me thinking, if Mouser had an army of Little Mousers and other rodent enemies from across the franchise, including brand new ones, it would be an excellent alternative to Bowser and the Koopa Troop.
About multi-player, New Super Mario Bros for DS had some really nice local multi-player ideas! It was mini games but still super fun. Except from the classic mini games, like Luigi introducing you to gambling, it had a VS mode where you had to kill the other to take their tokens and it was one of the best things to play!
I remember it fondly! Good times
I just hope if they do end up making a sequel to wonder, they would at least add the Koopalings.
Those floating islands in totk weren’t always there tho
Going back in time changed the future
Poor Luigi. Luigi fans unite!👇
Bring back multiplayer collision.
Earlier ago there was a rumor Nintendo mentioned something about a Super Mario Bros 3 remake, That rumor could give us some hints about the future.
Aint no way i found my doppelganger
Hello MrEndo
What 😂
Do you know what music you used at 6:10?
If SMBW gets a sequel, they should make it 3D and introduce a mix of old and 3 new powerups
Bro's got serious beef with my man Luigi
I think they teased a sequel to Captain Toad’s treasure tracker
i have been thinking recently that there could be a new 2d mario entry in the mid-late 2020s
OH OH I KNOW! MARIO WONDER MAKER 3 🤌👍
Cant wait for mario thinker