Dre had to give up on Detox because the brand of gangster rap that defined his career became outdated. If he was gonna do it, it needed to be around 04-05 when Game, 50 and Eminem were still at their peaks. By the time 06 hit, we had moved on to Lil Wayne, Jeezy, Kanye, Swisher House, Hyphy and a post-Jay-Z era. Then once we got to 07, T-Pain and auto tune had taken over, and it was a wrap for anything gangsta once Drake hit the scene in 09- that's why Dre put out Kush with Akon to try and stay current with the r&b sound and test the waters. People liked it, but it got a mediocre response in contrast to his previous work. That's when he knew the reaction to Detox wouldn't live up to his expectations. Then we got to see him work with Kendrick and release "Compton: The Album", which did good and was praised by critics because Kendrick was super hot at the time, but the general public didn't care about that album... I say all this to say that timing is everything and he missed the boat. Even him making a whole album with one of the top rappers in the game (Kendrick) wasn't enough to live up to his classic or bust standards. I just hope that he'll find it in his heart to release all the scrapped Detox songs he recorded because all the old heads like me would be elated.
100% agree with you, this is exactly what I was thinking. Kanye came in and changed the whole sound in '04 itself, only the remnants of gangsta rap (The Documentary, The Massacre, G-Unit) survived till '06. The death of the sub-genre was nigh and Dre could see the writing on the wall. Would be a massive misstep if he butchered his legacy which will be remembered long after all of us are gone by releasing an out of date record.
@Unknown Unknown you talking about dre Yeah he has a label with some of the most talented artist like anderson paak And he produce couple of song her and ther like the eminem song that feature anderson paak from his latest album
It will work,if we changed our perception and thought of it like an album from the past.when you start expecting some new wave by Dre then it becomes a tricky situation.
Ultimately it's about the money. An average album is more damaging to his pocket than no album at all because he is a brand who rightfully uses that leverage to not just make a legacy but continually make financially gainful moves. Your public perception effects how much people want to pay you from people wanting to work with you, endorsements, and business deals that would otherwise rely on his image/name to market.
At this point he should just release a Detox Boxset. Separate the tracks based on the eras dating back to the year 2001. Maybe even include reference tracks that Dre didn't do vocals for. Put it out. A boxset won't be judged the same as a album. But it would make use of all the material, allow for Dre to use songs for movies and other product placements as well as gain royalties on uploads on RUclips. Also it could be exclusive to Apple Music which can help push that service. There is a lot of upside to putting out all the music. Same with the Pac stuff. Once that is released they can gain revenue on uploads of the content and use in commercials, shows, movies, video games etc. I wish Dre would release it all, get Em to release Relapse 2 and King Mathers, Pac estate releases the remaining 150 songs and the original songs Pac did. Rakim even has a unreleased album produced by Dre not heard. Dre also has tons of unreleased from 1988-1999. So much content there to give us oldschool fans music for ages. But all the shit just collecting dust in a vault or lost and forgotten in a server.
It was a promotional stunt too keep him relevant enough too sell headphones..... but it's drake and eminem who are the culture vultures....yeah okay....sure...
Guess that is what happens to epic masters. They become so big until their own legacy do not permit them to release something new anymore, cause they reached the sky and... sky is the limit; their own sky does not raise up to their new cosmic standards. That is how so many legendary athletes, actors, musicians, painters etc. eventually failed to come back.
It never came out because life got in the way and with time the legend was built up so much that he knew he wouldn’t be able to meet the hype, he was right not to do it
That’s what I just said in a reply to someone else too. He just kept giving away the beats and melodies supposedly. Like they weren’t meeting the perfection he imagined
@@nicholasalexander5453 like Kendrick Lamar The recipe when I first heard that song back then I knew it was originally for Detox, The Game Documentary album, some songs on 50 and Ems album even the Red album
Basically. That's what I've been saying for years. Dre has admitted that he was so busy trying to get other artists' projects together that he ended up giving tracks meant for Detox to the various artists he was working with. Then he said another bulk of the Detox tracks were used for the Straight out of Compton movie soundtrack.
I could see that. I would like to see more artists do what Johnny Cash did on his last couple albums (I know, I know, country music but hold on.) He basically said "I spent my whole life putting out music for the world, I'm going to make music for myself." He just put out covers of other people's songs that he enjoyed, along with some original content. It was nothing compared to the albums from his glory days, but to a diehard fan it was amazing and quite an experience to hear what the ARTIST wanted to hear and do, versus what the artist wanted the world to hear. If Dre could do the something similar, I could see it being successful. Even if he just released a double album. Make one greatest hits/rare-unreleased material, and the other what he did like from Detox sessions. That way it's not a hyped up release or anything, just something casual for the old head fans to stir up nostalgia.
Get Rich or Die Tryin' received the majority of music that was slated for Detox. Dre mentioned this back in 2003 in XXL or something like that. I remember reading it with my own two eyes when I was 17.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised. 50 had said that they originally had almosy 100 songs lined up for the GRDT album. Now, that's probably an exaggeration but it could mean that there were, say, 50 songs slated for release. I can't imagine how many unreleased songs ended up being cut.
@@vahyalakwaga5428 Exactly bro! I also remember back in 2003, just a couple of months before they released GRDT, in the XXL magazine, Dre said 50 was getting "the cream of the crop" with respect to the beats that were originally slated for Detox. That would make sense too that they had 100 songs that they reduced down to 17 or 18 for the final track list of the album. To your point about the unreleased songs we don't know about....it's been said by many former Aftermath artists that Dre is such a perfectionist, that after making hundreds, literally hundreds of songs for him to hear, he still didn't think none of them were good enough to be released commercially. This was definitely the case with Rakim, Raekwon, King T, etc. You might remember Slim The Mobster, from the west coast, who people were saying was going to be "the next best thing" out the west, like ten years ago or so. There was a lot of hype around him so Dre signed him around 2010 or so if I'm not mistaken. In an interview he did recently, he told the radio show host that he recorded NINE HUNDRED songs...no BS...literally 900 damn songs when he was on Aftermath, that never got released. That's why everyone left Aftermath. Years pass before they even get to release anything. Em, Kendrick, and Anderson Paak are the lucky ones, everyone else is either gone or been on the back burner for YEARS.
@@RICO_SUAVE_86_ Damn bruh! I had NO idea he was such a perfectionist! Well, I guess it has its advantages but if being your own "worst critic" stops you from legitimately putting out music, then you might be more of a victim of it, than anything else.....😆😆
@@RICO_SUAVE_86_ Thank you for this comment. Dre has shelved 40 artists in conjunction with Jimmy Iovine. Slim actually still works there as a ghostwriter since he was there during Nas sessions recently. I think Slim went to jail for a minute which delayed Detox and explains why when Dre bailed him out, he got a writing credit on Talking to My Diary.
ruclips.net/video/fFT4tokkwl0/видео.html That’s one of tracks from dretox, Dre says in interview that dretox was detox lol But he said April 20 2021 he will actually drop the detox for fans even though dretox is detox
@@shkrsimpson44 I just wanted to put it out there in case people who see your comment thinks Dre did it, but yeah it does sound like a Dre beat, and sounds like it would be on detox
@@taureanmay7480 rakim is smart he knows what he’s doing and half of the time label issues stop artists from releases, like power of the dollar by 50 cent
Wow - thanks for covering this - most people avoid digging into the history of this forgotten mythical classic - I waited for 15+ yeaers thninking Dre would dust the old master tapes from the vault - but not happening - probably better for the sake of his legacy not to drop a potential failure at this point
I have so much respect for Dre for him saying it wasn’t good enough. He is a perfectionist and he would rather not release something than Drop something that isn’t classic. Take notes Snoop.
Dre should just release a giant “Decades of Detox” music library. It doesn’t have to be a cohesive, tight album. It can be a collection of music. Today’s streaming world actually makes something like that a favorable format. His true fans and hip hop fans love him and his process enough to listen and enjoy it as that.
I mean there is a lot of White/Light Skinned People who grew up within the cities of The East Coast who speak with somewhat Urban or "Black" Vulnactular. Pro The Goat also comes off as Mixed to me. I'm mixed, White and Latina, and I speak with a heavy Brooklyn accent that people call "speaking black." when in reality a lot of people from Brooklyn speak like that.
@@CaseysTrains i’m from jersey and know what you mean about the tri states accents. For the record , i never said anything negative about PTG or anything.
09:20 I remember when this happened. This was a major blow. Me and all my friends were mad af!!! Hype for detox was at an all time high because we were closer than ever due to the XXL cover saying IM BACK and the two singles (INAD and Kush) then out of nowhere he says he wants a break! Fuck!!!
Something tells me that after this divorce is finalized he’s gonna find the passion to complete this album. Personal struggles and turmoil always spark that creative match.
I can understand the amount of pressure he might have been under though. I mean the album became hip hops Loch Ness monster/Big Foot. How do you live up to something with literal decades of hype built up, even though most people stopped caring. Jay Electronica took half as long to finally drop and there were people who felt it wasn't worth the wait. If Detox were to flop after all of this time, that would just suck.
Last week B Real said that Dre recorded around 300 songs for Detox. BANGERS! If he released that album, it would be the biggest hype since Doggystyle, Eminem Show, All Eyez On Me. All albums he had his hands on one way or another. His ears on from another galaxy. Rappers hate him because he can hear shit no one else can
Well Here's all the sessions we know from Detox and it's intended features for certain songs Where I'm From (featuring The Game and Nate Dogg) Compton (featuring King T and Sly Jordan) Kush (featuring Snoop Dogg and Akon) I Need A Doctor (featuring Eminem and Skylar Grey) The Recipe (featuring Damian Marley) Smoke (featuring Trey Songz) Under Pressure (featuring Jay-Z and Sly Jordan) Topless (featuring Nas and Sly Jordan) Could've Been You (featuring 50 Cent and R. Kelly) New Day (featuring 50 Cent and Ester Dean) Die Hard (featuring Eminem) There They Go (featuring Mellow Won, Snoop Dogg and Nate Dogg) Drug Test (featuring The Game, Sly Jordan and Snoop Dogg) Flashing (featuring Bishop Lamont and Snoop Dogg) Crack A Bottle (featuring Eminem) OG's Theme It's Like That Untitled (Nino Bless Reference Track) 2 Night (featuring Kendrick Lamar and Jeremih) Talking To My Diary Popped Off (featuring T.I. and Sly Jordan) Naked (Dre never rapped on it btw) Turn Me On Syllables (featuring Eminem, Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Stat Quo and Ca$his) Throwback (beat was made in 2002 but dre never rapped on it) Psycho (featuring 50 Cent) Untitled Session (featuring Snoop Dogg) (Modified Version of These Days Went By with different drums and soul sample) Untitled Session (With Dre Rapping Over 50 Is The President Beat) When Guns Drawn (Dre Never Rapped On The Beat) Pyrex (featuring Kendrick Lamar) Young World (featuring Sly Jordan) This Is Detox (featuring Kobe) Mr. Prescription (featuring Sly Jordan, Nikki Grier and Slim Da Mobster) Untitled Session (featuring Akon)
@@Man_eee Hell Ya. Following up to when Em said on Encore we're gonna make Dr.Dre drop Detox and Game had his Debut album and 50 still had the game on Lock
Damn Detox was suppose to come out around 02’-03’ when I was a freshmen/sophomore in HS... I’m already 33! and still yet no Detox. At this point I’m ok with no Detox if it was to come out then it should of have already been released
At this point, it’s almost like the Loch Ness monster of Hip-Hop. People are more interested in the story and the idea that there is a legendary album that no one can get their hands on. Dre knows this. This is precisely why he sold millions in headphones just by using the name “Detox.” Even though I spent many nights as a kid praying it would drop, It will never come out, and that’s okay. I think the LEGEND of Detox will always be bigger than any album Dre could ever put out.
When you have a lot of other people behind the scenes creating it’s hard to get everyone on the same page. Plus all the non disclosure agreements and releases makes it extremely difficult without being sued.
My theory is Dre didn’t release detox because the brand beats by Dre may have been impacted if his album flopped. The mystique of his brand had to be protected to protect headphone sales. And by the time it was sold to Apple the whole music scene had moved too far from Dres original vision.
I think detox would’ve been fire after Compton. I’m aware Compton didn’t do well sales wise compared to his others but it’s still a classic in my opinion. And I don’t think his version of gangster rap is outdated. I think that’s something lik Compton or detox is exactly wat we need again🔥
Greeting & good morning Man I really happy I got to see you your knowledge about hip hop is amazing personally am learning a lot thank you @HipHopManess
Dre is one of those producers that likes to go off his “feel” for music; He never could get a feel for what the current generation is into because of the new hip hop “genesis” that happened when trap music and Soulja Boy came into the fold. Plus a lot of the Cali artists he fucked with were just old, including himself. Dre is not going to stamp an album unless it’s either revolutionary or evolutionary and Detox was going to be neither. A part of me wish J. Dilla was alive because I felt like he would’ve collaborated with him as far as creating a new sound. Dre has done shit like that with Hi Tek, Scott Storch and Mel Man. If he and Dilla could’ve worked together they would’ve did something special but Dilla died right when a lot garbage ass hip hop came out and the game was never the same.
Detox is literally just that Compton Album he released. I have no doubt in my mind a lot of what we heard from that album? Just carried over & was refined to a modern Hip-Hop landscape.
Man I thought Detox was gonna be like him claiming the 3rd heavyweight title of the world 🌍 like Ali. He has already done enough with his first two solo albums (not even counting all is other work, productions, features and NWA days). However it would have been special to see this 3rd solo album. NEW SUB
For him to spend years working on detox and scrap that album and release the compton album is like a spit in the face to the fans that have been waiting on it. I honestly never cared about it after 07
This is a good breakdown. He felt like he lost ownership of Detox. As for the comment section, if you made a ghost writing joke or said something about the presenter’s face - I hate you. You lot are why we have mumble rap and 69 and no Detox.
Everybody talking about Detox but, If you remember in 2000/01 NWA anounced that would release a new album called "Not These Niggaz Again", even they included Snoop in the group in the place of Eazy E. They released a song called "Chin Check" but the album was never dropped. Imagine that studio sessions of NWA now.
It was on the Eminem Show album way back in 2002 that on one of the tracks Dre shouts the line - look out for detox! At the time I wasn't sure if he meant an album or whether he had signed a new rapper called Detox! Can only assume a finished cut of the detox album exists somewhere in Dre's house. I remember liking the under pressure instrumental beat when it leaked and it was the first beat production I had heard from him for years. When under pressure leaked you could only assume the album wasn't far behind. Detox has become a kind of a Chinese Democracy type thing although the democracy album was eventually released.
Song from Detox leaked on November 16, 2020 called Get It on John Smith's RUclips channel. Damn near 40K views. The guy who runs that channel had to have worked at Aftermath with so much rare music he releases.
Great video breakdown fr. I got lost in the hype and couldn't wait for this album since I read about it in XXL's most anticipated albums of 2004 then I remember reading Dre saying he wasn't doing it a few months later in that same year as you posted in this vid to then being back on board with it. I followed it for so long and got caught up with everything Aftermath yet Aftermath became a sinking ship. I still think you should do a breakdown of all the 40 artists or so as well as scrapped projects Dre has left on the table. His vaults are stockpiled and he keeps recording but never releases anything because it's just a hobby to him and as Chris The Glove (iconic DJ from the West and co producer/ghost producer/mixer on Chronic, 2001, Doggystyle and Firm tracks) says he knows how to put out the 1% and shelve the 99% of other material that isn't his best. Still I wanna hear all that music.
I think Dre should do two mix tapes leading up to detox: Pill A and Pill B. Pill A could be him coming out with banging beats and working with past, top tier lyricists, and Pill B could be the same, but with newer artists. He could continue the hip hop opera theme of going through this journey through the eyes of a character. Pill A could be when said character is in their younger days. Pill B could be about the same character, but this time older. Just a thought.
Sad that dre scrapped the project. It would've been dope if he got creative with it. Imagine if it was a 3 disk type of album. The first one consisting of the original tracks that would've came out back in the day. It would've had That old sound, the stories and wordplay, the skill set of where everyone was at, at the time. It would've sounded like 2000s Dre. The 2nd disk, consisting of collabs with newer modern artist that came out in 2010s, maybe push for some radio hits. 3rd disk consisting of all or most artist from disk 1 but with that modern sound. How good everyones production quality has increased. See how everyones grown in the craft or changed. Perfect example, eminem in early 2000s does not make tracks the way he used to. Even when he raps as slim shady now its just not the same. Get to see how Dre raps now vs then too. Mash the old artist with some of the new. It could've been the ultimate album. A project through time.
Not sure if it’s intentional but it’s sort of a genius move. Yesterday is completion but tomorrow is immortal. When I think about the The Chronic album and what it meant to rap, I feel the same about Detox as I do about Pac; the idea alone was paid so far in advance and in such great contribution that IF the project is still alive and well somewhere, just let it live. It’s earned that
The perfect windows were when 50 cent first entered the game or when Kendrick first got here. That’s when hip hop was crazy. We probably would have love the album either way though.
The real reason Detox wasn't released is Dre itself. Many different songs were created, but Dre was constantly looking for something else. Scott Storch mentioned it, that there was a lot of bangers, but as soon as Dre didn't like something or a song sounded similar to something that was or was in a similar style, it went to the trash. In 2011, Dre wanted to finally release Detox, but the matter went quiet. It stopped because Kendrick Lamar showed up and Dre wanted to create something new, something different, something better with Kendrick. It boiled down to the fact that Dre has hundreds if not thousands of songs, because the album has been worked by multitude of people. Dre shouldn't releasing album of around 20 songs, he should release multiple albums from each era.
No, it's because he doesn't have the ability to create an album worth of material that sounds incredibly fresh, like he could in his prime.. Listen to the kush beat... It's like a weak 2001 album era beat. He didn't want to come out with an album that as a whole, has weaker production than 2001, so he just said fuck it
If you've seen some of snoops vlogs from around 2011, they were making some good sounding music. I think it could have worked on at least some level. Hip hop wasn't as totally trapped out at that point. Get lil wayne, drake, rick ross, maybe some other rappers who were hot on it and it could have worked out. Ross was hot at that time making that jazzy/orchestral music that could have fit right along next a dre project.
man think about it, Dr. Dre's kush feat. Snoop Dogg, I Need A Doctor Feat. Eminem & Skylar Grey, Under Pressure Feat. Jay-z and T.I.'s Dope it was supposed to be on DETOX... till this day if those 4 songs drops it would be so fire that we would be on hell
That's one thing that I been waitin' on, he already had two great classics, all he needed was more more for an epic finish, sound would of been crisp and updated, featurin' artists that you'd expect like Em, 50, Game, XZ, Snoop, Warren, Nate, Cube, Ren, Yella, Quik, Jay, Mary J, Kendrick, Wayne, throw in Eazy's vocals like he did with Compton, get some new artists. But if it came out durin' the mid 2000s like it was supposed to it would of sounded the same way you'd hear from Game's The Documentary album, most tracks that Dre was gonna use for it just gave it to all his proteges.
The thing is that if 50 and The Game chilled their asses for a little while back than we would’ve got a Detox. Im not sure but the beat from In da club was a detox beat. Just imagine for a second what it’ll be like if detox had these beats and came out. That would’ve been the perfect end for dre
Dre had to give up on Detox because the brand of gangster rap that defined his career became outdated. If he was gonna do it, it needed to be around 04-05 when Game, 50 and Eminem were still at their peaks. By the time 06 hit, we had moved on to Lil Wayne, Jeezy, Kanye, Swisher House, Hyphy and a post-Jay-Z era. Then once we got to 07, T-Pain and auto tune had taken over, and it was a wrap for anything gangsta once Drake hit the scene in 09- that's why Dre put out Kush with Akon to try and stay current with the r&b sound and test the waters. People liked it, but it got a mediocre response in contrast to his previous work. That's when he knew the reaction to Detox wouldn't live up to his expectations. Then we got to see him work with Kendrick and release "Compton: The Album", which did good and was praised by critics because Kendrick was super hot at the time, but the general public didn't care about that album... I say all this to say that timing is everything and he missed the boat. Even him making a whole album with one of the top rappers in the game (Kendrick) wasn't enough to live up to his classic or bust standards. I just hope that he'll find it in his heart to release all the scrapped Detox songs he recorded because all the old heads like me would be elated.
100% agree with you, this is exactly what I was thinking. Kanye came in and changed the whole sound in '04 itself, only the remnants of gangsta rap (The Documentary, The Massacre, G-Unit) survived till '06. The death of the sub-genre was nigh and Dre could see the writing on the wall. Would be a massive misstep if he butchered his legacy which will be remembered long after all of us are gone by releasing an out of date record.
True
The day kanye drop graduation and win the battle against 50
Is a big reason on why it didn't come
@Unknown Unknown you talking about dre
Yeah he has a label with some of the most talented artist like anderson paak
And he produce couple of song her and ther like the eminem song that feature anderson paak from his latest album
It will work,if we changed our perception and thought of it like an album from the past.when you start expecting some new wave by Dre then it becomes a tricky situation.
Ultimately it's about the money. An average album is more damaging to his pocket than no album at all because he is a brand who rightfully uses that leverage to not just make a legacy but continually make financially gainful moves. Your public perception effects how much people want to pay you from people wanting to work with you, endorsements, and business deals that would otherwise rely on his image/name to market.
At this point he should just release a Detox Boxset. Separate the tracks based on the eras dating back to the year 2001. Maybe even include reference tracks that Dre didn't do vocals for. Put it out. A boxset won't be judged the same as a album. But it would make use of all the material, allow for Dre to use songs for movies and other product placements as well as gain royalties on uploads on RUclips. Also it could be exclusive to Apple Music which can help push that service. There is a lot of upside to putting out all the music. Same with the Pac stuff. Once that is released they can gain revenue on uploads of the content and use in commercials, shows, movies, video games etc.
I wish Dre would release it all, get Em to release Relapse 2 and King Mathers, Pac estate releases the remaining 150 songs and the original songs Pac did. Rakim even has a unreleased album produced by Dre not heard. Dre also has tons of unreleased from 1988-1999. So much content there to give us oldschool fans music for ages. But all the shit just collecting dust in a vault or lost and forgotten in a server.
I agree my brother he should’ve drop a box that my opinion I agree with everything you said
Agreed. Id love to hear the stuff from Death Row that just never got released.
He still could drop this box maybe after the divorce?
Definitely agreed. A shame for Hip-Hop. Art unheard.
just dont make it apple music only...
“Look out for detox”. He’d always say on people’s album’s lol still looking out for it dre
Like fifth said this is suppose to be on that Detox album 2011
Not So.
It was a promotional stunt too keep him relevant enough too sell headphones..... but it's drake and eminem who are the culture vultures....yeah okay....sure...
Detox is one of the most important albums to never come out. Same with Kendrick and Cole’s collab album.
Kendrick solo album will always be better than a collab album with cole
And drake and kanye collab
A Kendrick and Cole album is not more important than a Black Hippy album. Let alone a solo Kendrick album.
@Sir Bitches 2014 is a classic that’s it. Kendrick and Cole could do a mixtape but an actual conceptual album wouldn’t work
Wtf? Detox
Detox is the Half life 3 of the rap game nothing will ever live up to what came before.
when put out album too good its hard to follow it up just look at eminem hes good now but back in the 2000s he was putting out classic on classic
Naw, it more of the GTA 6 of the Rap Game
That's a perfect comparison yo
Detox is also Bayonetta 3 xd
Guess that is what happens to epic masters.
They become so big until their own legacy do not permit them to release something new anymore, cause they reached the sky and... sky is the limit; their own sky does not raise up to their new cosmic standards.
That is how so many legendary athletes, actors, musicians, painters etc. eventually failed to come back.
Dre's done enough. He gave so many people Detox in the form of producing phenomenal beats for other people's albums years after Chronic 2001.
we don’t deserve detox there’s a reason why it’s never come out he’s never seen the way to release such
You better say the same thing about drake ....
It never came out because life got in the way and with time the legend was built up so much that he knew he wouldn’t be able to meet the hype, he was right not to do it
Game in 2005: "Doc got something to say, be quiet"
Dre: 🗣"Look out for Detox"
Me 15 years later: Well that was a fuckin lie
Ikr. 16 years now and still ain't out
Game never said what dr Dre said was gonna be legit
@@masnwrdl0511 See you in 2035 to repeat your comment
That was in 2004, not 2005.
@@kingmiller1982 It was still a long time ago its literally been more then 17 Years since he announced the Detox Album
We heard Detox, he just gave it away to other artists.
Facts you can hear it on all his artist's albums
That’s what I just said in a reply to someone else too. He just kept giving away the beats and melodies supposedly. Like they weren’t meeting the perfection he imagined
@@nicholasalexander5453 like Kendrick Lamar The recipe when I first heard that song back then I knew it was originally for Detox, The Game Documentary album, some songs on 50 and Ems album even the Red album
Basically. That's what I've been saying for years. Dre has admitted that he was so busy trying to get other artists' projects together that he ended up giving tracks meant for Detox to the various artists he was working with. Then he said another bulk of the Detox tracks were used for the Straight out of Compton movie soundtrack.
@@bibiinspades1953 Dre didn’t produce The Recipe, Scoop Deville did.
detox will be posthumous, bet
I could see that.
I would like to see more artists do what Johnny Cash did on his last couple albums (I know, I know, country music but hold on.)
He basically said "I spent my whole life putting out music for the world, I'm going to make music for myself." He just put out covers of other people's songs that he enjoyed, along with some original content. It was nothing compared to the albums from his glory days, but to a diehard fan it was amazing and quite an experience to hear what the ARTIST wanted to hear and do, versus what the artist wanted the world to hear.
If Dre could do the something similar, I could see it being successful. Even if he just released a double album. Make one greatest hits/rare-unreleased material, and the other what he did like from Detox sessions. That way it's not a hyped up release or anything, just something casual for the old head fans to stir up nostalgia.
Damn, the day that Dre passes will be a haunting one. But shiiii, days could be brighter if detox will be released after his death
Not Quite.
Agreed. One last big gift to the fans and payday to his family. Plus he won’t have to listen to people criticizing his work 👍
I don’t if he didn’t want to put it out when he was alive I can guarantee it’s in his will to not put out after he is
Get Rich or Die Tryin' received the majority of music that was slated for Detox. Dre mentioned this back in 2003 in XXL or something like that. I remember reading it with my own two eyes when I was 17.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised. 50 had said that they originally had almosy 100 songs lined up for the GRDT album. Now, that's probably an exaggeration but it could mean that there were, say, 50 songs slated for release. I can't imagine how many unreleased songs ended up being cut.
@@vahyalakwaga5428 Exactly bro! I also remember back in 2003, just a couple of months before they released GRDT, in the XXL magazine, Dre said 50 was getting "the cream of the crop" with respect to the beats that were originally slated for Detox. That would make sense too that they had 100 songs that they reduced down to 17 or 18 for the final track list of the album. To your point about the unreleased songs we don't know about....it's been said by many former Aftermath artists that Dre is such a perfectionist, that after making hundreds, literally hundreds of songs for him to hear, he still didn't think none of them were good enough to be released commercially. This was definitely the case with Rakim, Raekwon, King T, etc. You might remember Slim The Mobster, from the west coast, who people were saying was going to be "the next best thing" out the west, like ten years ago or so. There was a lot of hype around him so Dre signed him around 2010 or so if I'm not mistaken. In an interview he did recently, he told the radio show host that he recorded NINE HUNDRED songs...no BS...literally 900 damn songs when he was on Aftermath, that never got released. That's why everyone left Aftermath. Years pass before they even get to release anything. Em, Kendrick, and Anderson Paak are the lucky ones, everyone else is either gone or been on the back burner for YEARS.
@@RICO_SUAVE_86_ Damn bruh! I had NO idea he was such a perfectionist! Well, I guess it has its advantages but if being your own "worst critic" stops you from legitimately putting out music, then you might be more of a victim of it, than anything else.....😆😆
@@vahyalakwaga5428 lol exactly! 💯
@@RICO_SUAVE_86_ Thank you for this comment. Dre has shelved 40 artists in conjunction with Jimmy Iovine. Slim actually still works there as a ghostwriter since he was there during Nas sessions recently. I think Slim went to jail for a minute which delayed Detox and explains why when Dre bailed him out, he got a writing credit on Talking to My Diary.
he didn’t wanna quit smoking
Underrated comment !!!
@@Ldddurtydizzl3 underrated as fuck😂😂
Funny on nwas express yourself he's says he doesn't smoke sess cause it gives ya brain damage then he ends up with an album called the chronic lol 😆
Nah, nah I still got faith he’s working on it lol. I remember being a freshman looking for leaks on it 😂😂😂
@BULLDOG FACE that’s how you know the album is gonna be the shit
I thought it did drop? I remember it in hmv & sammies
Dretox 2005 check it out, was suppose to be detox but named it dretox I still got it in cd lol
That’s some serious faith
ruclips.net/video/fFT4tokkwl0/видео.html
That’s one of tracks from dretox, Dre says in interview that dretox was detox lol
But he said April 20 2021 he will actually drop the detox for fans even though dretox is detox
" The Recipe" is the best detox song I've heard, and it still remains my favorite instrumental of all time.
Damn, that song and the beat is awful
@@bobbyragolia7170trippin balls
Wasn’t even made by Dre though, produced by scoop deville, kid frost’s son
@@SirAuron777 I know that. I never mentioned Dre producing it and that was deliberate. I only stated it was supposed to be on detox.
@@shkrsimpson44 I just wanted to put it out there in case people who see your comment thinks Dre did it, but yeah it does sound like a Dre beat, and sounds like it would be on detox
I still wish we would’ve gotten the Rakim Aftermath debut album too
Rakim is trash! Everyone knows that fish is a terrible dish
@@GLBlake_ What garbage you on fool Rakim is a Legend
Not Gonna Happen.
@@taureanmay7480 rakim is smart he knows what he’s doing and half of the time label issues stop artists from releases, like power of the dollar by 50 cent
50 got the instrumentals from the rakim album for get rich or die...
“Encore” -Eminem, Dr. Dre, 50 Cent
“We Made You” -Eminem
“DR. DRE!...Two-Thousand and Twenty!”
All of that shit was a publicity stunt too sell headphones....detox was a promotional tool and nothing more ...
Wow - thanks for covering this - most people avoid digging into the history of this forgotten mythical classic - I waited for 15+ yeaers thninking Dre would dust the old master tapes from the vault - but not happening - probably better for the sake of his legacy not to drop a potential failure at this point
It was all a publicly stunt too sell headphones...Dre respects the culture though....
BEATS BY DRE is why Dr. Dre gave up on the Detox album.
Yep that what cube said already
Is it because he focused too much energy on the headphones?
A billion dollars from headphones is better than an album..
Dr. Dre is similar to the old black inventors, from the cloth of eli whitney, he is really an icon to aspire to be like
@@ReverendWin-id9gp Eli Whitney wasn't black. There is a long line of inventors who made important inventions that were though.
I have so much respect for Dre for him saying it wasn’t good enough. He is a perfectionist and he would rather not release something than Drop something that isn’t classic. Take notes Snoop.
Dre should just release a giant “Decades of Detox” music library. It doesn’t have to be a cohesive, tight album. It can be a collection of music. Today’s streaming world actually makes something like that a favorable format. His true fans and hip hop fans love him and his process enough to listen and enjoy it as that.
Detox was the biggest album to never come out and the music could never live up to the hipe that's y he didn't won't a do it
In a perfect world, Dre would’ve debuted Detox during that 2Pac hologram performance at Coachella.
He's dead !.
@@taureanmay7480 I believe you missed the word “HOLOGRAM”
In a perfect world Tupac would still be alive negating the need for the hologram. But other than that yeah I agree.
Plot Twist: Dre didn’t want his now estranged wife to have a piece of it 🤯🤯🤯
yo the face and voice don’t match 😂😂
Fr😂
I mean there is a lot of White/Light Skinned People who grew up within the cities of The East Coast who speak with somewhat Urban or "Black" Vulnactular. Pro The Goat also comes off as Mixed to me. I'm mixed, White and Latina, and I speak with a heavy Brooklyn accent that people call "speaking black." when in reality a lot of people from Brooklyn speak like that.
I’m impressed
@@CaseysTrains i’m from jersey and know what you mean about the tri states accents. For the record , i never said anything negative about PTG or anything.
there's a black guy who does these sorts of videos for one of the hip hop channels and he has a similar voice. That's who I always pictured
09:20 I remember when this happened. This was a major blow. Me and all my friends were mad af!!! Hype for detox was at an all time high because we were closer than ever due to the XXL cover saying IM BACK and the two singles (INAD and Kush) then out of nowhere he says he wants a break! Fuck!!!
Never forget Ludacris’ reference track “OG Theme.” That would’ve been tha perfect outro for Detox/Dre’s career.
Ludacris is trash! Everyone knows that T.I wrote all of his rhymes
@@GLBlake_ So I guess u trollin.
Another album we need is the Pete Rock and CL Smooth reunion album
Respect to the channel for these feature pieces.
Something tells me that after this divorce is finalized he’s gonna find the passion to complete this album. Personal struggles and turmoil always spark that creative match.
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak I mean he’s known that for a long time he’s been around a lot of crazy individuals
3 years later and that's a no....
I can understand the amount of pressure he might have been under though. I mean the album became hip hops Loch Ness monster/Big Foot. How do you live up to something with literal decades of hype built up, even though most people stopped caring. Jay Electronica took half as long to finally drop and there were people who felt it wasn't worth the wait. If Detox were to flop after all of this time, that would just suck.
Dre ain't got nothing to prove though.
@@Papadoc1981 creatives dont see it that way. It's a constant desire to outdo themselves.
Last week B Real said that Dre recorded around 300 songs for Detox. BANGERS! If he released that album, it would be the biggest hype since Doggystyle, Eminem Show, All Eyez On Me. All albums he had his hands on one way or another. His ears on from another galaxy. Rappers hate him because he can hear shit no one else can
I was 15 when I heard Dre said “look out for detox” on game album...I’m 30 as fuck now it’s not happening
Well Here's all the sessions we know from Detox and it's intended features for certain songs
Where I'm From (featuring The Game and Nate Dogg)
Compton (featuring King T and Sly Jordan)
Kush (featuring Snoop Dogg and Akon)
I Need A Doctor (featuring Eminem and Skylar Grey)
The Recipe (featuring Damian Marley)
Smoke (featuring Trey Songz)
Under Pressure (featuring Jay-Z and Sly Jordan)
Topless (featuring Nas and Sly Jordan)
Could've Been You (featuring 50 Cent and R. Kelly)
New Day (featuring 50 Cent and Ester Dean)
Die Hard (featuring Eminem)
There They Go (featuring Mellow Won, Snoop Dogg and Nate Dogg)
Drug Test (featuring The Game, Sly Jordan and Snoop Dogg)
Flashing (featuring Bishop Lamont and Snoop Dogg)
Crack A Bottle (featuring Eminem)
OG's Theme
It's Like That
Untitled (Nino Bless Reference Track)
2 Night (featuring Kendrick Lamar and Jeremih)
Talking To My Diary
Popped Off (featuring T.I. and Sly Jordan)
Naked (Dre never rapped on it btw)
Turn Me On
Syllables (featuring Eminem, Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Stat Quo and Ca$his)
Throwback (beat was made in 2002 but dre never rapped on it)
Psycho (featuring 50 Cent)
Untitled Session (featuring Snoop Dogg) (Modified Version of These Days Went By with different drums and soul sample)
Untitled Session (With Dre Rapping Over 50 Is The President Beat)
When Guns Drawn (Dre Never Rapped On The Beat)
Pyrex (featuring Kendrick Lamar)
Young World (featuring Sly Jordan)
This Is Detox (featuring Kobe)
Mr. Prescription (featuring Sly Jordan, Nikki Grier and Slim Da Mobster)
Untitled Session (featuring Akon)
I wished we got Detox in 04-07
Yeah 05 would have been perfect.
@@Man_eee Hell Ya. Following up to when Em said on Encore we're gonna make Dr.Dre drop Detox and Game had his Debut album and 50 still had the game on Lock
Not Today.
Damn Detox was suppose to come out around 02’-03’ when I was a freshmen/sophomore in HS... I’m already 33! and still yet no Detox. At this point I’m ok with no Detox if it was to come out then it should of have already been released
At this point, it’s almost like the Loch Ness monster of Hip-Hop. People are more interested in the story and the idea that there is a legendary album that no one can get their hands on. Dre knows this. This is precisely why he sold millions in headphones just by using the name “Detox.” Even though I spent many nights as a kid praying it would drop, It will never come out, and that’s okay. I think the LEGEND of Detox will always be bigger than any album Dre could ever put out.
it would be so dope if he released it soon, a new record in 2020 with an early 2000s vibe
NOBODY explains shit or go's into DEEP DETAIL like "ProtheGoat"... Love watching ur vids bruh!!! Keep em coming brodie!.!.!.!
When you have a lot of other people behind the scenes creating it’s hard to get everyone on the same page. Plus all the non disclosure agreements and releases makes it extremely difficult without being sued.
Release it now in the time of COVID... the world needs it. ACDC just dropped a great song and it's refreshing in all this trap era
My theory is Dre didn’t release detox because the brand beats by Dre may have been impacted if his album flopped. The mystique of his brand had to be protected to protect headphone sales. And by the time it was sold to Apple the whole music scene had moved too far from Dres original vision.
Damn I never realized Dr Dre had a T shaped head good thing you put him in the middle on Detox for me to figure that out
Albums That Should Have Released:
1. Yandhi
2. I Can't Feel My Face(Lil Wayne, Juelz Santana)
3.Detox
4. All City Chess Club Album.
5.TurboGrafx16
Just imagine that dre drops a third Chronic album. I think that it will be the such a great time. Just imagine how he will kill it.
I think detox would’ve been fire after Compton. I’m aware Compton didn’t do well sales wise compared to his others but it’s still a classic in my opinion. And I don’t think his version of gangster rap is outdated. I think that’s something lik Compton or detox is exactly wat we need again🔥
I always thought Kush and I Need a Doctor were singles from Detox that flopped quietly.
Yes
I need a doctor didn't flop
@@LJ-tq1xg no it flopped
@@fredrikgranstrom6743 number one in various countries and nearly half a billion RUclips views ok...
@@LJ-tq1xg means nothing...its all but forgotten today
Greeting & good morning
Man I really happy I got to see you your knowledge about hip hop is amazing personally am learning a lot thank you @HipHopManess
Some people let “perfection” become the enemy of “very good”.
Dre is one of those producers that likes to go off his “feel” for music; He never could get a feel for what the current generation is into because of the new hip hop “genesis” that happened when trap music and Soulja Boy came into the fold. Plus a lot of the Cali artists he fucked with were just old, including himself. Dre is not going to stamp an album unless it’s either revolutionary or evolutionary and Detox was going to be neither. A part of me wish J. Dilla was alive because I felt like he would’ve collaborated with him as far as creating a new sound. Dre has done shit like that with Hi Tek, Scott Storch and Mel Man. If he and Dilla could’ve worked together they would’ve did something special but Dilla died right when a lot garbage ass hip hop came out and the game was never the same.
Detox is literally just that Compton Album he released. I have no doubt in my mind a lot of what we heard from that album? Just carried over & was refined to a modern Hip-Hop landscape.
Detox was a publicity stunt too sell headphones...
Man I thought Detox was gonna be like him claiming the 3rd heavyweight title of the world 🌍 like Ali. He has already done enough with his first two solo albums (not even counting all is other work, productions, features and NWA days). However it would have been special to see this 3rd solo album. NEW SUB
I think the concept album he wanted to make with characters would have been cool. Violent j has the best rap concept albums in that regard
For him to spend years working on detox and scrap that album and release the compton album is like a spit in the face to the fans that have been waiting on it. I honestly never cared about it after 07
It was all a ploy too sell headphones 🎧 and yet it's Eminem and Drake who are called vulture
I turned up at store on first release date in England and was standing there like "where the fuck is it" always remember that
I have a bunch of the leaks and honestly, I like most of them. I think it would have been a dope project
This is a good breakdown. He felt like he lost ownership of Detox. As for the comment section, if you made a ghost writing joke or said something about the presenter’s face - I hate you. You lot are why we have mumble rap and 69 and no Detox.
I fell like he felt that it would never live up to the hype.
There was a song where someone said "We gonna MAKE HIM do it" regarding making the album Detox, so, he might have refused on principle.
That’s topless song with nas and t.i was 🔥
💯
Fucking great song. It had such a “Detox” feel to it too idk how to describe it lol
NINETEEN NINETY…. SIX I LEFT IT ALL BEHIND. Why did this not release
I always say if 50 & Game didn’t split up that project would of Been Came Out 🎯 #IdcIdc
He is not hungry anymore but I am I need artists to work with on my beats
@arror yes I am hungry
Everybody talking about Detox but, If you remember in 2000/01 NWA anounced that would release a new album called "Not These Niggaz Again", even they included Snoop in the group in the place of Eazy E. They released a song called "Chin Check" but the album was never dropped. Imagine that studio sessions of NWA now.
Fans that kept Detox alive over the years actually keep it up so high there ended up being no way to meet the expectation.
It was on the Eminem Show album way back in 2002 that on one of the tracks Dre shouts the line - look out for detox! At the time I wasn't sure if he meant an album or whether he had signed a new rapper called Detox! Can only assume a finished cut of the detox album exists somewhere in Dre's house. I remember liking the under pressure instrumental beat when it leaked and it was the first beat production I had heard from him for years. When under pressure leaked you could only assume the album wasn't far behind. Detox has become a kind of a Chinese Democracy type thing although the democracy album was eventually released.
Song from Detox leaked on November 16, 2020 called Get It on John Smith's RUclips channel. Damn near 40K views. The guy who runs that channel had to have worked at Aftermath with so much rare music he releases.
Real question is why Dr Dre didn't sign that prenup! Damn
He does have a prenuptial agreement. The wife thought he tore it up but he still has the original.
Dudes get stupid when it comes to pxssy.
Great video breakdown fr. I got lost in the hype and couldn't wait for this album since I read about it in XXL's most anticipated albums of 2004 then I remember reading Dre saying he wasn't doing it a few months later in that same year as you posted in this vid to then being back on board with it. I followed it for so long and got caught up with everything Aftermath yet Aftermath became a sinking ship. I still think you should do a breakdown of all the 40 artists or so as well as scrapped projects Dre has left on the table. His vaults are stockpiled and he keeps recording but never releases anything because it's just a hobby to him and as Chris The Glove (iconic DJ from the West and co producer/ghost producer/mixer on Chronic, 2001, Doggystyle and Firm tracks) says he knows how to put out the 1% and shelve the 99% of other material that isn't his best. Still I wanna hear all that music.
Thank you man. Will definitely look into this
@@hiphopmadness will you do one on Eminem's King Mathers album? Thanks
2021 would be a good year to drop it like an Anniversary.
Ty hiphop zaddy, I appreciate your in-depth videos
Love your vids pro!!keep up the grind!!!
I think Dre should do two mix tapes leading up to detox: Pill A and Pill B. Pill A could be him coming out with banging beats and working with past, top tier lyricists, and Pill B could be the same, but with newer artists. He could continue the hip hop opera theme of going through this journey through the eyes of a character. Pill A could be when said character is in their younger days. Pill B could be about the same character, but this time older. Just a thought.
Before I start watching this. I'll say that the HYPE for the Detox album grew bigger than Dr Dre expected.
That yondo beat playin In The background brings back a lot of memories
Sad that dre scrapped the project. It would've been dope if he got creative with it. Imagine if it was a 3 disk type of album. The first one consisting of the original tracks that would've came out back in the day. It would've had That old sound, the stories and wordplay, the skill set of where everyone was at, at the time. It would've sounded like 2000s Dre.
The 2nd disk, consisting of collabs with newer modern artist that came out in 2010s, maybe push for some radio hits.
3rd disk consisting of all or most artist from disk 1 but with that modern sound. How good everyones production quality has increased. See how everyones grown in the craft or changed. Perfect example, eminem in early 2000s does not make tracks the way he used to. Even when he raps as slim shady now its just not the same. Get to see how Dre raps now vs then too. Mash the old artist with some of the new. It could've been the ultimate album. A project through time.
I remember on the encore album Eminem said " Detox 2006" 😄😄. I guess dre couldn't find good enough ghost producers
"And don't worry about detox, we gone make Dre do it" Eminem 2004
@@04stillmatic it is 15 years later but eminem will be correct we’re gonna barge into dr dres house and force him to release detox
I’ve been waiting on Detox but sadly we won’t be able to see it anymore.
I know doctor dre probably won't see this, but you'd done enough for the rap game. You should just do what what ever you feel like doing right now.
Finally I feel like this well made video has answered my own thoughts about detox 😂 who knows maybe some day we might get to hear some of it?!
Marketing Strategy 💯
I used to call Detox the Duke Nukem Forever of hip hop but that game eventually came out.
Not sure if it’s intentional but it’s sort of a genius move. Yesterday is completion but tomorrow is immortal. When I think about the The Chronic album and what it meant to rap, I feel the same about Detox as I do about Pac; the idea alone was paid so far in advance and in such great contribution that IF the project is still alive and well somewhere, just let it live. It’s earned that
The perfect windows were when 50 cent first entered the game or when Kendrick first got here. That’s when hip hop was crazy. We probably would have love the album either way though.
Dre is also a perfectionist. I assume that's another reason why it never came out
Dr Dre owe to his fans. Please release Detox.
The real reason Detox wasn't released is Dre itself. Many different songs were created, but Dre was constantly looking for something else.
Scott Storch mentioned it, that there was a lot of bangers, but as soon as Dre didn't like something or a song sounded similar to something that was or was in a similar style, it went to the trash.
In 2011, Dre wanted to finally release Detox, but the matter went quiet. It stopped because Kendrick Lamar showed up and Dre wanted to create something new, something different, something better with Kendrick.
It boiled down to the fact that Dre has hundreds if not thousands of songs, because the album has been worked by multitude of people.
Dre shouldn't releasing album of around 20 songs, he should release multiple albums from each era.
No, it's because he doesn't have the ability to create an album worth of material that sounds incredibly fresh, like he could in his prime.. Listen to the kush beat... It's like a weak 2001 album era beat. He didn't want to come out with an album that as a whole, has weaker production than 2001, so he just said fuck it
It was some fire on there there’s one joint from Ludacris that was bananas
If you've seen some of snoops vlogs from around 2011, they were making some good sounding music. I think it could have worked on at least some level. Hip hop wasn't as totally trapped out at that point. Get lil wayne, drake, rick ross, maybe some other rappers who were hot on it and it could have worked out. Ross was hot at that time making that jazzy/orchestral music that could have fit right along next a dre project.
man think about it, Dr. Dre's kush feat. Snoop Dogg, I Need A Doctor Feat. Eminem & Skylar Grey, Under Pressure Feat. Jay-z and T.I.'s Dope it was supposed to be on DETOX... till this day if those 4 songs drops it would be so fire that we would be on hell
Well said.
This channel is really amazing
Being real about it, if Detox were to come out; it would be the first album in years, period, that I’d buy...
Anyone who heard the studio snippet of Young World needs this album in their lives
That's one thing that I been waitin' on, he already had two great classics, all he needed was more more for an epic finish, sound would of been crisp and updated, featurin' artists that you'd expect like Em, 50, Game, XZ, Snoop, Warren, Nate, Cube, Ren, Yella, Quik, Jay, Mary J, Kendrick, Wayne, throw in Eazy's vocals like he did with Compton, get some new artists. But if it came out durin' the mid 2000s like it was supposed to it would of sounded the same way you'd hear from Game's The Documentary album, most tracks that Dre was gonna use for it just gave it to all his proteges.
Dre said he bought L.A. and everybody was like meh
Its kinda messed up how he dropped a $500 Detox edition Beats Pro when Detox isn't even a thing. He hella teased us.
After that divorce I bet it comes out in some shape or form
@The Duke
That was for Temporary Spousal Support, the divorce settlement is still pending and she’s going to get at least $100 million.
# More Problems.
Atleast we got compton the soundtrack 🤷♂️
I was mad for about a year
Downloaded so many garbage mixtapes off of Soulseek back in the day labeled things like "unofficial Detox studio leak"
Awesome video bro. Keep it up..
The thing is that if 50 and The Game chilled their asses for a little while back than we would’ve got a Detox. Im not sure but the beat from In da club was a detox beat. Just imagine for a second what it’ll be like if detox had these beats and came out. That would’ve been the perfect end for dre
I miss Dre's old vocal style though.