It's sad. Other genres tend to be "yeah I like them, but don't care for them". The macho-bacho masculinity, even for female rappers, makes it so love-hate. The haters are everywhere and their own insecurities don't allow to merely not care for another's music, instead they feel the need to put others down. The irony is strong.
It’s social media. It’s divided politics to an extent we’ve never seen and it’s doing the same to music now. If u like so and so u have shit taste but if u like certaint artists that everyone holds to high praise u have good taste. A lot a ppl don’t even even show wut they listen too these days jus what the mass majority of ppl will approve
i dont understand the mindset of these ppl calling his baby and his wife ugly.. why would you attack his family? Logic gave so much to hip hop actually speechless
@@SquidwardProfilePic Out of fear that they would hate 'cause they couldn't relate 'Cause it wasn't relevant Give a fuck if it's evident, this right here is the evidence I'm like Leo in Revenant, bear with me You could tear me apart But that won't take away the fact I wrote this shit from the heart Where it's built from the start
I think him retiring was for the best. He just doesn't have the healthy mindset and thick skin to thrive as a hip hop artist. The community is ruthless.
Bro I’m not even a huge logic fan but he sold out Madison Square Garden out as the headliner, he’s a fucking millionaire and got like 5 houses bro. If you think he wasn’t thriving you’re fucking blind bro, I think his album coadm was complete trash but look at the arenas he was selling out on the coadm tour
@@SaintLawrenceTVC nothing to do with his ability to succeed which, as you've mentioned, he has more than proven capable of doing. It was more a commentary on how the game has negatively affected his mental health.
I always had a vague feeling as if Cole, Hopsin and Logic were the 'middle children' of rap generations who had to face the troubles and ended up 3 different ways. Hopsin became like a mad man, Cole became more and more realist, and Logic became the innocent kid.
Logic shouldn't be mentioned with those 2 though....because he garners so much more hate...and what Logic fans fail to acknowledge is even though YALL love him, the fact that he gets so much hate from the community and even more prominent figures in it, means there might be just a little bit of truth in it. Logic made his money and im not made at him but there are a lot of rappers who make money and arent ever going to be great or even considered good by most ppl. Logic has a niche audience and they are loyal. I respect it but he is never going to be beloved or considered a GOAT or pioneer of anything like Cole and Hopsin are...(and for the record, hopsin isnt a GOAT either...but he is a pioneer in the way he made his success in the rap game happen) He never even had a number 1 hit. the closest he got was number 3 with that suicide song that got a LOT of smoke from being a little too close to Joyner Lucas's suicide song (release date wise)
@@VirgilHawkinsIs coal ain't no goat his contributions to rap culture are small. He's not a tech pioneer like Soulja Boy, trailblazer like Nicki Minaj, educator like Noname, genius-producer like Pharrell Williams, or an unrivaled lyricist like Kendrick Lamar
What's funny is that Logic will say literally in every interview that he doesn't care what people think about him. Even in a lot of his songs. It's so annoying. Saying it as much as he does literally means the opposite.
Ultimately ending how career. He should have just stuck with what was meant for him and take what he can get from it because, of course, he has fans. However, mental health is as important to him and anyone and, well, he knows better to retire knowing that he's allowing these critics to get to him ruining his confidence and hard work. Him getting his mind right and finding his happiness is best for him right now.
@@antonioblack7780 the thing with him tho is he built his fanbase off the fact he was poor and came from nothing. when he ultimately didnt wanna rap about that anymore and be free, it was like he was being pulled back and diminished by the very people who gave him a platform. disconnecting from that original space and continuing to create freely is the route he needed, and im glad he can find that space stepping away from rap now
When Joe Budden said that Logic is one of the worst rappers to ever grace a microphone I was like are we listening to the same music? I never understood why Logic got so much hate. Ever since I listened to Under Pressure for the first time I was like DAMN! This dude is killing it. But then again you can't please everybody. I didn't hearing that Logic is retiring but I understand why now. Getting away from the toxicity is a good move. You'll feel so much better. I wish the best for him with his Twitch deal and his future.
Am I the only one who didn't take Budden seriously? Like the man who made pump it up with how many other writers. Logic literally defined gravity listen to his story and I'm like how. Under pressure is way better than any debut album from Joe Budden.
Budden and many like him are butt hurt that logic says he's half black because his dad is black. They think he's a corny white guy rapper but then says he's a mixed breed and everyone goes off on em.
@@myopinionmeansmore wtf man he felt like they did man. it probably hurt him a lot and made him unable to stop thinking about the hate. You enable hate filled clowns with thoughts like that.
This makes me sad. Logic always felt like a bro, and was one of my main inspirations to start recording music myself. Seeing how he’s treated in Hip Hop is disappointing. Logic can spit. Idc what anyone says. I hope he keeps writing books, gaming, etc. because he’ll always have me as a fan.
I think what made Logic great and what was inevitably his downfall was his yearning to be loved and accepted. His mom never showed him love and his dad abandoned them early on. Logic talks about being a child and watching TV where people were loved and had a family and pretending that was him. He was never loved and accepted growing up and the drive for the world to love him is what made him work so hard to be a great MC.
He's still making music..... What drugs is everyone on Dr destruction project Bobby Tarantino 3 Breath control freestyle and he's about to drop Vinyl Days album
@@codywood1295 If people choose not to hear about someone that's on them If they're not a fan they're most definitely going to join the rest of the flock who says he's not active anymore The easiest example I can give is PSY he's still active but most people believe he just made Gangnam style and dipped
I say he asks E-40 to mentor his lyrics structure, build up his word selection and teach that wild west style. Kindle his new guy hunger back, change it to gotta Shit on them all energy. That guy has a rage beast in there. Don't know why he didn't tap that source? Hope he does and forces them fucks to bow to the Universal Logic.
Extremely Talented artist but I feel he never found himself because he lacks confidence , he’s too sensitive to be in his field. He grouped haters and constructive critics all together. He also tried to make every demographic happy repetitively and accept him but it backfired because that is not realistic. Be yourself unapologetically and you’ll be respected.
Too sensitive bro? That's all you have? You literally have to sell your soul, and be comfortable, with being groped by grown men. Do more research bro.
Logic never found himself as an artist. He never found a place to ground his character in. When he was coming up his character was an up and comer on the grind and we loved it, once he wasnt that up and comer though, he had no identity and it showed in his music
@Robert E. Speedwagon city of stars sounds like Kanye but that's about it...I don't hear Kendrick or drake at all so please pinpoint me to songs where he sounds like that lmfao
Still don’t fw him he reminds me of a kid in high school who tried to be my friend too hard and too much that I literally avoided him because of that exact reason
Ok you guys obviously didnt watch Joe Budden on the come up. He one of the forefathers of going against the industry in the 2000s. He didnt "fail" he said fuck being a puppet and it cost him but look at him now
Toussaint Brown Budden is funny as hell at times, but he’s akin to the fucking trolls that love to throw shit at people because they’re unhappy with themselves and their lives. Joe Budden is having more success as a speaker on the culture than he ever had as a rapper. Eminem couldn’t even save his dwindling rap career with Slaughterhouse. If Eminem can’t save your career as a group act, then you know your solo career is DONE! Keep in mind that Joe actually apologized to Logic. Budden likes to think that he put emo-rap on the map or some BS when in reality, Joe was never that influential.
Francisco Davis Budden hit the scene with Pump It Up. That was his breakout single. Yes, he switched his lane and started going against the grain, but his first and BIGGEST single of his career was as Pop as you can get from Rap/Hip-Hop. He lost all credibility when he began throwing stones at other rappers considering how he hit the scene and not to mention he was never a heavy hitter in Hip-Hop. At best he was a mid-card and I think I’m being generous. NY listeners may beg to differ, but I can tell you that practically no one was listening to Joe Budden. Three of my top five rappers are from NY (or up North) might I add. I’m a GA boy, Atlanta native and I listened to Joe here and there. His career is rather forgettable to be honest and Logic is certainly a more impactful rapper. You cannot deny that.
Keem Is that what happened exactly? I didn’t know the logistics of why he quit but I just assumed he wanted to be with his family and focus on other endeavors for now. Does he really not enjoy doing music anymore? I think maybe he just got burnt out from all the criticism, and I think within a few years he’ll announce a return to music. He’ll get hungry again.
@@AlkoWasAlreadyTaken nah, he still enjoys makes raps and stuff. he even said on a stream he was cookin up with 6ix (his producer) a little while ago. it's a therapy, but since he made it out the basement doing music there's really no point in continuing with the industry considering he can do much more that just releasing it now
Man I don't know what made me watch this, but that part where the dude is pouring his heart out on a livestream while his real life friends, sitting right behind him just stare at their phones and completely ignore him made me feel really...bad.
I think they were just trying to give him the space to talk, he was live-streaming and all that and they definitely did come in and talk at some points
Run These Pearls holy shit bro! Thank you! Just because you said so. They have cancelled the Grammys forever and all the celebrities are returning their trophies 🏆
Bruh have you seen Pop or K-Pop Community?? Hip-Hop is nowhere near toxic to their levels of toxicity. Logic was just too soft and made himself an easy target.
His sensitivity to criticism and the desire to be loved stems from childhood trauma ‘cause he was constantly neglected by his own family, got called the n-word and abused by his mother, and bullied by his family/friends. He made it his life mission to become a rapper and be loved by the masses, and theres always gonna be a little part of him that wants to be accepted.
Im a huge Logic fan, and yes, he can be derivative, wear influences on his sleeve, etc. But his beat selection, delivery, and voice was amazing in his songs from 2010-2016. Never got the same feelings/vibes from other artists as much as I did from Logic
Lyricism isn't the roots of hip hop. The 70s and 80s ( where the culture developed) it was more about the Beat and Dj than the MC. Soooo yall fan boys cringy with this "real hip hop" talk. That shit sucks
@@UngiftedBaskettiBall Hiphop gave us many things, beats, flow, lyricsm and story telling. Each of these evolved overtime through each generation. But this new generation has hit an old time low. Yall you mumble rappers sounds the same with your tatted ass faces, whack beats and corny overused lyrics about money and drugs.
@@gambeeno817you don’t make rules in hip-hop and your opinion has no value. Just because we don’t like logic doesn’t mean we don’t listen to lyrical rappers either lol you white Boys all the same “mumble rappers,real hip-hop & I hate braggadocio”
he did it to himself. A lot of people shitting on him used to be fans. HE was really my favourite rapper back in the day but then the quality of his music went wayyy left. I saw hints of it during tits but that was still a good album. It's when he tried being that I love everybody pandering rapper that he lost credibility. It got to the point where i questioned if he was even the same person who dropped welcome to forever. His subject matter itself became corny.
Nakib Hasan. I mean your entitled to your own opinion but I’ve listened to him since the very beginning and I’ve loved his music through the whole journey. He tried spreading a good message but people now a days just wanna hear music about money and bitches and it’s all wack
Nakib Hasan and I don’t think he “did it to himself” he just wanted to have fun making music and wanted people to enjoy listening. But people found every little detail to criticize and make fun of. I’ve never seen a more toxic group than his haters and he didn’t deserve that
Always Random lazy take. He never exclusively rapped about money and bitches at any point of his career. New logic thinks rapping a lot of syllables quickly makes you a good rapper. Old logic was putting together coherent verses. I’ve been listening to logic from the beginning as well what does that even mean. I’m just not a blind fan. I was disappointed that the guy who I thought had goat potential turned into a corny rapper until no pressure.
I dont think his last album was bad i think people put to much expectation on someone how they make their music, Supermarket was such an underrated album one of my favorites showed so much creative & growth to jump out his comfort zone!
ET FROM EARTH yeah I think it’s great when artist leave their comfort zone and just make something they truly want to make and not just an album that is commercially viable and sounds good but while I agree it is underrated it is still not as quality as his latest album. His latest album if really fantastic because you can just hear he really doesn’t care what anyone thinks and he is just happy production gets music he is happy with and it is really polished and frankly every track is really good!
For real. The difference between No Pressure and the last 2 projects is like night and day. I like Logic but I didn’t have high hopes for this new album based on his recent output, but he really came through and dropped what’s probably his best body of work.
I'll be shocked if he's not back rapping in some capacity within 3 years. I just take this as him wanting to do something else for a while, and not get bugged about rapping while he's doing it.
I mean, I posted a retirement speech when I shut down my Facebook account. I even rented out a days inn with a Chinese Buffet, RSVP.. Nobody showed, up. Not even my girl she said "She was busy & had to wait on a Amazon Package" ... 😐
Why would people question drake's blackness? Everything from his team to the women he's involved with are usually black. He makes music for black people. Logic dates white women, his team is white, and makes music for white people.
@@ahmedhani970 No it's not, and you aren't black. So whatever your opinion is on what defines someone's blackness is invalid. It's as simple as owning it. Which drake does.
@@ForTheViolence ayt I'm black and what I have to say is drakes baby mama is white, drakes producer is also white. And people questioned logics blackness, why don't they question drakes? It's unfair, because we all know logics dad was black and mom was white why do we need to question his blackness just because he looks more white than black.
Ya'll kill me with this "drake's producer thing" Like 40 is the only producer he has on his albums. Go look at the credits for his albums. You act like drake chose to have a baby with that women. That's just who he happened to get pregnant. He has black women in all his videos. Most of the artist he has signed on his label are black. He's featuring black people and putting black people on. Logic's blackness being questioned by what he looks like are your words not mine. There is nothing black about that man other than his father. Even the people who listen to logic are 90% white. You can't associate anything black with him other than that. I rest my case. @@fazenm7614
Notice how he always makes his best music when he didn't care what people thought of him. compare the young Sinatra callection, the Bobby Tarantino collection, even The Incredible True Story and especially No Pressure. You can feel that he was just being himself. The reason why "Everybody" and "Confessions of A Dangerous Mind" failed is because that's when he let everything start getting to him and he wanted to impress everyone. He was trying too hard. He was trying to be what he thought people wanted him to be. Thus, being what nobody actually wanted him to be. But it was nice to see him exit with the mindset "idc what people think anymore" and left us with an amazing last album. I'll always hold logic close to my heart. Since high school he's been one of my favorites, minus those two albums I mentioned.
I agree with you man! EVERYBODY and COADM werent his best albums but they had some good songs on them. but sometimes it feels like logic just gets hated on for no reason.
YES bro. No pressure he went back to his roots. If he stayed retired and that was his last album I wouldn’t even be mad. Great comeback. Ur so right. Incredible true story his best album btw
Wow this comment aged well. With his Vinyl Days album, he clearly showed his passion for music and didn’t purposely make music to please any audience. He’s grown a lot and learned to accept that not everyone is going to like him and his music and he’s now able to put that aside and continue to create amazing music for those of us that are fans
Such a shame that social media forced him to retirement. He’s made songs that got me through some rough days. I appreciate logic and hope he comes back some day.
Logic's case is complicated. He proves lyrical prowess is not enough to sustain a long-term rap career at a certain level, or at the level he wishes he was or he thinks he is, you need a certain mindset and personality to gain the mass appeal in this genre. Is not like Rock or Pop, where everyone is quite permissive and understanding, Hip Hop is like a prison yard, and you need to stand tall and proud or not be in the spotlight at all. You need to be made of a certain wood to rule this place, and, sadly, he isn't. The community does not care about him at all, I'd say he's even more hated than Hopsin. He's like Eminem, but he lacks his aggression and temperament. Logic is way too sweet and kind-hearted. But, in the end, he contributed to the genre extensively, so he shouldn't feel sad. He simply should move on to other projects, like raising his baby.
Facts. He’s always lacked the hunger. He can’t ride that peace love and positivity bs forever because...it gets corny. He never challenges himself and as time went on his pen game declined. Now 80% of his lyrics are filler. He just isn’t goat material. If all the memes and budden hurt him so much, why didn’t he address it in his music?
I wouldn't say that because we accept rapper's like Childish Gambino, Kyle, and Tyler The Creator. Nobody would ever say those guys are hard. At the end of the day if you make good music it will silence the critics. Logic just tends to make a mistake in crafting albums. He had the whole space thing in in his second album but most of the songs had anything to even do with that theme. The album as a whole didn't tell the story with the songs. Only with skits. Then the skits continued into his later albums with no real conclusion . Then he mistakes rapping fast for being a good rapper. Alot of times he just repeats words over and over fast and doesn't have anything real to say.
@mike dollars calm down buddy its a probably hard as hell being in the place where logic was.. how would you handle it if thousands of people would hate on you and calling you worthless?
Stevie Nguyen “always lacked the hunger”? I agree with that if you’re talking about the last 4 years but before that the guy rapped like he had a huge chip on his shoulder, you could hear it
I'm glad he left. Human beings are toxic, and all they were doing was trying to tear the man down. Why can't people just be happy for others? And yes I know he had fans, and yes you can "turn off social media," but he is a human being like the rest of us. Yet people just wanted due to be like all the other famous people that threw away their soul. I'm glad the man is doing what is best for him and his family!
you are unfortunately correct society has just become so toxic like jesus. YOU cant say ANYTHING nowadays without some people hating on you. thats how life is!
The reasons people find it hard to be happy for others is because life screws people over and everybody to some degree feels entitled to a "good" life, aka money, bitches, popularity. It doesnt matter who you are but if you succeed at anything you can rely on people coming after you because they dont like you, they may claim all kinds of reasons why they dont like you but in the end its simple, you got a chance to be successful and they either havent got one or they didnt take it so they resent that you have it and they dont.
I think Logic is another criminally underrated artist! He honestly has a pretty dope catalog of work and the No Pressure album is 🔥! With that being said, I think that he’s making the right move. He’s talented and creative enough to forge a new path for himself, a path where he may be able to find true happiness. Any of us would take that chance if we could. I wish him the best.
Its because the state of mainstream hip hop community is super toxic and closed minded now. That's why there's limited creativity. And the worst part is that most avid fans of mainstream hip hop just see an image but dont know anything about the person behind the music.
You know I think since he started off HOT he herd nothing but praise so when people switched on him he was confused and couldn't understand why he was being made fun when at first everything was cool... idk just my opinion
@@moisesmontecillo7570 100% when he came up with projects like under pressure he raised the bar very high, he was huge in the community that loved him. He needed to stay to his niche, not meaning that he shouldnt have released "pop" songs like 1-800 but I feel like her failed to foster a fanbase that would out-voice "haters". People like youngboy or even Russ get so much hate, but their fans arguably fight back. I dont feel like anyone fought back for logic in the same way.
@Khitty Kat it might hurt in a way but its good to foster a community that will stand by you. He didnt do so, he did the opposite he focused on the hate and got lost in his own self pity rather than growing a true/real fanbase.
We all need to be thankful to experience logic. We saw him grow up without a father and now he wants to be there for his kid and be the best father he can. That's awesome. I love logic and I think he won at the end of it all.
i love how everybody here is like “nah he a grown ass man toughen up” but have never, and probably will never be under the scrutiny and harsh criticism of literally millions of people on EVERYTHING they say. so you have zero frame of reference or understanding here. most of y’all probably can’t take somebody you know talking shit about you without losing complete control over your emotions lmao
MylesB93 most of the people in hip-hop are incredibly thin-skinned. They perpetuate this idea of how one should be, without really living up to it. America in a nutshell honestly...
MylesB93 most artists in general, not even just hip-hop artists are thin-skinned when it comes to their work. it’s their ART, and i think anybody who creates any form of art would understand that. and to say they shouldn’t make that art because “the community is harsh” is absurd
Logic was another one of those rappers who could've been one of the greatest of all time, and fell into the bullshit of the current wave of hip hop and lost his path. Anyway, No Pressure was excellent, and I'm happy that he retired at a great point in his career, and hopefully he stacked his money right.
Ain’t no could’ve would’ve when it comes to art. You are in full control of what you make, especially in 2020. Your decisions are part of your art. He’s skilled but he lacks originality severely.
I hope someday when his kid is grown or something he comes back with another album... sharing the insights he gained on life as a parent. I’m sure the fans would come out of the woodwork. Been a fan of Logic since Under Pressure. Crazy to see him complete is character arc in a sense with NO PRESSURE.
Like imagine being Logic and hearing Joe Budden say you're 1 of the worst rappers ever, while his podcast friends laugh. Fucking heartbreaking man. I'll always love Logic and I'm glad he's in a position to focus on family and avenues that give him happiness
hip hop did NOT force him to retire, bobby has a family now, he feels that he’s done enough and doesn’t need to go on. He has happiness now and doesn’t need social media or media in general anymore. logics been in the game since 2011 and has done so much in 10 years. Mans made millions to last him and his kid(s) a lifetime, but when people still try and rip him apart no matter how good he did, it’s tiring and sickening. #FUCKJOEBUDDEN
Honestly I'm Glad He Did, To Be That Big & Successful And Still Not Understanding That No Matter What You Do Someone Is Going To Dislike You. The Fact They Also Only Spoke About His Music And NOT His Character Is Big Too, EVERBODY Has To Form A Thick Skin. Internet Comments Are Mean To Be Mean, He Wasn't Built For This But EVERBODY Has To Understand Criticism Is Needed And Necessary. No One Is Without Flaw.
@@PhenomenalByChoice 1. Logic knew what he was getting into in terms of the hate he recieved, which is why he tried to please everyone with his music. The epiphone Logic had around the time he decided to retire is that pleasing everyone is something you simply can't do. 2. People insulted Logic's music, along with his family, race, and appearance. 3. There is a very discernible difference between criticism, assuming you were talking about the constructive kind, and mean or snarky remarks. 4. At the end of the day, rappers are *human beings* who in one way or another are susceptible to demoralization from their listeners. Sorry, but the prospect of forming "a thick skin" which you presented as being a counter to the waves of consumer negativity that rappers face *daily* simply is not viable under any circumstances.
As someone who isn't a logic fan, I still believe he had more to contribute, but all in all I'm happy for bro. People can hate all they want but in the end he was a huge success. Just wish he could see it that way
Reality: one of the best MC in his generation, but not respected or given credit in the hip hop community . Only by his fans The irony: if he would to pass away. Everyone will say “he was the best” not wishing him Ill things. I’m just saying how everyone is fake at times. This is just my opinion.
For whatever reason he couldn't handle the criticisms, so he made a great album similar to his old style to please people then he retired to be free of criticism
Xeno Bell he actually didnt bro, someone did the math and read thru every lyric of every song he put out and he only talks about it 9% of the time, you only notice it because its what you look for
If you grew up in poverty than all the other social or personal issues you're dealimg with take a backseat. Hard to worry about not being accepted in school when your stomach is growling.
@@semird615 I've put my hunger aside for awhile and for many different reasons, some good and some were stupid, I'll never be able to let go of the hate I feel that was bred in public school. I can control it, suppress it, but never be rid of it. Its not something you forget or get over easily being made to feel like an outcast. Most either go one of two ways: they hate themselves for not fitting in and try to appease everyone. Or they end up loving it more then they want to be accepted and take it from me that is a dangerous mindset to have. Eventually you start to feel like other people are in your way for no good reason. Like they are the ones who don't belong here. Like you should be rid of them. Most people don't come back from it before its too late.
@@therealjoker6706 I've had huge struggles in middle school and trust me I feel you. The things we experience in those periods shape us and can be determental to what we grow up to be. It will always linger in the back of my head somewhere so I have to stay bussy, crying about it is not the way to go. Guess what a lot of people endured a lot of bs in their younger years for different reasons, you're not alone. As a grown ul you have to know your worth regardless of how anxios or insecure you were. Children can be real monsters, I know that very well but the adult world can be different because you finally get to choose who you hang out with. So find positive, productive people that value you and make you feel like you belong. It takes time to reverse the effects of bullying but we have to keep trying, we have no other choice. Don't hold grudges because it's only making you feel worse and as an adukt there are a lot of more important things to spend your energy on.
Logic was one of the best artist in the 2010 era. While he wasn’t mainstream until the everybody Album, he was still making hit after hit. We might not get another album, his music will always be an inspiration like all other songs
So I was wondering why he made a public announcement of his retirement instead of just falling off like most rappers do. it still gave him a position in the community while allowing him to come and go as he pleases. this video helped a lot. he was beaten to the point where he got burnt out. the public announcement was him telling people that he is done. Maybe allowing himself to breath.
There is ABSOLUTELY no one to blame except society on this one. Logic was one of the most genuine people that ever came across the game and just because he wanted to share his stories and fight for people who have been oppressed for so long society took him as a joke. He stood up for those with mental illness, he stood up for those that were and are oppressed and dealt with those issues on his own. The fact that we as a culture practically bullied him into retirement yet welcomed the likes of 69 home and keep listening to garbage human beings shows where we stand as a society as a culture. We do not let people live anymore and it’s truly truly disgusting. This is not a matter of “oh he just can’t take criticism and doesn’t have thick skin” this is him going “well no matter what I do I get more hate than love so why don’t I stop doing this and do something I won’t get mass amounts of hate for?” And he quite literally says this...it went past music with him tbh
@@ziggyinthecut I respect that response, however when you're a not a manipulated specimen for hollywood or the music industry, you really try to do what best for the people, and when the people are always talking shit about you, it can be a stressful place.
Logic's music has helped me through alot of hard times. I hate to see an artist that just wont be accepted by their musical community/ peers because of a racial issue. Hes gone through alot and deserves recognition and consideration.
I never understood the hate he's been receiving, though, I'm happy that he has the clarity to focus his energies on something more important: his familia. When threats (physical or digital) start to overreach into this personal space and affect his mental state, I think it was for the better. I think he took certain criticisms a bit personal but also, his true fan base will stick with him though it all. I wish the man the best now that he's a role model for someone who needs him the most.
It wasn't that was pushed out. Some artists just get left behind. He wasn't making good music for the majority of his career. He could make some solid beats, but he relied on the speed of his voice rather than focusing on the lyrics. And it really showed towards the end of his career. But honestly him no longer rapping may have been the best thing for him? I love his Beats and his new project. This video makes a good job pointing out that he was stressed. With the name logic no longer attached to him, his music literally feels like him finally breathing.
The difference between Instagram and RUclips comments on the topic is astronomical. People on IG always go for the jugular and 99% of people in these RUclips comments are understanding and truthful
What good music has Budden put out since Pump It Up anyway. Rap game is full of talk on and off records, but Logic gotta do whats best for him and his family.
I truly respect Logic’s decision but if he thought the Hip Hop community was toxic, twitch chat takes it to another level deadass. Hopefully they leave him alone
Logic is easily one of the best rappers in the 2010’s. He is dedicated to the craft. People hate seeing him be able to have the skill he has acquired. His mixtapes, under pressure, the incredible true story, Bobby Tarantino1-2, and no pressure are his best works. ( My opinion) Everybody was a good concept. I think it was executed well. The problem is that he ranted on songs, which i think was unnecessary. Confessions of a dangerous mind wasn’t that great to me. I just felt like I heard this already. If logic releases Ultra 85 as his next album. I hope he switches his flows and find a new flow. His work has been very similar lately. It would be nice to see something new. Super Market, was a great start at trying out new things. He should also tell more stories in his raps. It takes us as listeners on a journey in our imaginations.
"If you live for people's acceptance, you'll die from their rejection" - Lecrae
Best quote ever
Facts
That’s real right there. That man Lecrae is tough for real
Not to mention logic surrounds himself with YES men
@@mrdanyo1223 How so? I am not familiar with his inner circle so would you mind elaborating on that?
So...Y'all pushed Logic out but can't shake Tekashi??
😴
@@mariotorres4703 😘
Takashis skins to thick
Tekashi dgaf ab any criticism. Thats why.
tekashi wouldnt have a career without the hate.
Kid Cudi said years ago Hip-Hop is the most judgmental movement and he hasn’t been wrong ever since.
It's sad. Other genres tend to be "yeah I like them, but don't care for them". The macho-bacho masculinity, even for female rappers, makes it so love-hate. The haters are everywhere and their own insecurities don't allow to merely not care for another's music, instead they feel the need to put others down. The irony is strong.
It’s social media. It’s divided politics to an extent we’ve never seen and it’s doing the same to music now. If u like so and so u have shit taste but if u like certaint artists that everyone holds to high praise u have good taste. A lot a ppl don’t even even show wut they listen too these days jus what the mass majority of ppl will approve
Even drake made fun of Kid Cudi for having depression... that's BEYOND toxic and he never got much of a clap back for it SMFH
It’s not a bad thing. It weeds out some of the garbage
@@ashmyblunt it is a bad thing. What's you're definition of garbage?
i dont understand the mindset of these ppl calling his baby and his wife ugly.. why would you attack his family? Logic gave so much to hip hop actually speechless
Jealousy I guess. All these people that dog him for being corny and this and that also won't step to him lyrically
@@jaym8808 logic isn't even good lyrically what are u talkin about
@@SquidwardProfilePic Quit trolling.
@@jaym8808 name 1 bar
@@SquidwardProfilePic Out of fear that they would hate 'cause they couldn't relate
'Cause it wasn't relevant
Give a fuck if it's evident, this right here is the evidence
I'm like Leo in Revenant, bear with me
You could tear me apart
But that won't take away the fact I wrote this shit from the heart
Where it's built from the start
I think him retiring was for the best. He just doesn't have the healthy mindset and thick skin to thrive as a hip hop artist. The community is ruthless.
Bro I’m not even a huge logic fan but he sold out Madison Square Garden out as the headliner, he’s a fucking millionaire and got like 5 houses bro. If you think he wasn’t thriving you’re fucking blind bro, I think his album coadm was complete trash but look at the arenas he was selling out on the coadm tour
@@SaintLawrenceTVC nothing to do with his ability to succeed which, as you've mentioned, he has more than proven capable of doing. It was more a commentary on how the game has negatively affected his mental health.
@@whodatboi2567 ☑️
Agreed, he's known worldwide and people have their opinion however he keeps allowing those opinions to define him.
So that emotional deal in the beginning, that was him and that was real? O_o
I always had a vague feeling as if Cole, Hopsin and Logic were the 'middle children' of rap generations who had to face the troubles and ended up 3 different ways. Hopsin became like a mad man, Cole became more and more realist, and Logic became the innocent kid.
Exactly and Cole if am not mistaken has a little bit of that in 'middle child' like dead in the middle of 2 generations
Kendrick is also of their generation but he took a totally other path than 3 of them
Logic shouldn't be mentioned with those 2 though....because he garners so much more hate...and what Logic fans fail to acknowledge is even though YALL love him, the fact that he gets so much hate from the community and even more prominent figures in it, means there might be just a little bit of truth in it. Logic made his money and im not made at him but there are a lot of rappers who make money and arent ever going to be great or even considered good by most ppl. Logic has a niche audience and they are loyal. I respect it but he is never going to be beloved or considered a GOAT or pioneer of anything like Cole and Hopsin are...(and for the record, hopsin isnt a GOAT either...but he is a pioneer in the way he made his success in the rap game happen) He never even had a number 1 hit. the closest he got was number 3 with that suicide song that got a LOT of smoke from being a little too close to Joyner Lucas's suicide song (release date wise)
jesus... the holy trinity pf fake deep
@@VirgilHawkinsIs coal ain't no goat
his contributions to rap culture are small. He's not a tech pioneer like Soulja Boy, trailblazer like Nicki Minaj, educator like Noname, genius-producer like Pharrell Williams, or an unrivaled lyricist like Kendrick Lamar
The moment logic started doing commercial moves and worrying about what other people think of him is what ultimately tarnished his reputation
Please say that louder for Logic and the others in the back please !
What's funny is that Logic will say literally in every interview that he doesn't care what people think about him. Even in a lot of his songs. It's so annoying. Saying it as much as he does literally means the opposite.
F
Ultimately ending how career. He should have just stuck with what was meant for him and take what he can get from it because, of course, he has fans. However, mental health is as important to him and anyone and, well, he knows better to retire knowing that he's allowing these critics to get to him ruining his confidence and hard work. Him getting his mind right and finding his happiness is best for him right now.
@@antonioblack7780 the thing with him tho is he built his fanbase off the fact he was poor and came from nothing. when he ultimately didnt wanna rap about that anymore and be free, it was like he was being pulled back and diminished by the very people who gave him a platform. disconnecting from that original space and continuing to create freely is the route he needed, and im glad he can find that space stepping away from rap now
I don’t get all the hate logic gets if there’s rappers like lil pump and 6ix9ine 🤦♂️
So true , lil pump & 6ix9ine is trash
Becuase white supremacy wants not conscious rap and rappers that support more no thought processes
@@playablue 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Pump and 6ix9ine are more hated than logic 🤨🤨
I think it is cause it obviously got to him. They saw the cracks so it made it more fun for them to keep chipping away.
When Joe Budden said that Logic is one of the worst rappers to ever grace a microphone I was like are we listening to the same music? I never understood why Logic got so much hate. Ever since I listened to Under Pressure for the first time I was like DAMN! This dude is killing it. But then again you can't please everybody. I didn't hearing that Logic is retiring but I understand why now. Getting away from the toxicity is a good move. You'll feel so much better. I wish the best for him with his Twitch deal and his future.
Budden was 100% right
@@adlaidunn r u ok bro?
@@adlaidunn so you put logic takashi and lil pump all in the same category
Am I the only one who didn't take Budden seriously? Like the man who made pump it up with how many other writers. Logic literally defined gravity listen to his story and I'm like how. Under pressure is way better than any debut album from Joe Budden.
Budden and many like him are butt hurt that logic says he's half black because his dad is black. They think he's a corny white guy rapper but then says he's a mixed breed and everyone goes off on em.
Idk why but I find it hilarious that you’re promoting a hair growth product on a video about logic
I thought it was just me that thought that. I bust out laughing as soon as he started talking about it. It was random as hell
Its cracked me up to. I blurted out "Aww not him too". Keeps is taking over youtube.
twintyro at least it’s not raid shadow legends. :P
@@kirklanyoshinaga8953 lol... Soon my friend... We are not safe here.
You don't know why? Really?
I feel bad for the hate that Logic gets.
He don’t deserve it.
Right cause that's so much hate he didn't need it
But nobody made him get on social media to accept it.
mike foster that’s a strange mindset you have there
He definitely does not deserve all the hate. The dude is a dope rapper and idiots hate on him for no reason.
@@myopinionmeansmore wtf man he felt like they did man. it probably hurt him a lot and made him unable to stop thinking about the hate. You enable hate filled clowns with thoughts like that.
This makes me sad. Logic always felt like a bro, and was one of my main inspirations to start recording music myself. Seeing how he’s treated in Hip Hop is disappointing. Logic can spit. Idc what anyone says. I hope he keeps writing books, gaming, etc. because he’ll always have me as a fan.
Ironic how his song to help people find a way out of suicide almost lead him down that path very path.
thats the music idustry for you
“Who can relate?”
Trayvhon McCall
WOOOOHHH!!
Social Media is Toxic Bro.
No if ands of Buts about it.
Mass Psychosis.
@@rockefeller13 Its not just the Music Industry Bro. I assure you millions feel just like him on the other side of their cellphones
Logic won though. He came up financially when he landed that deal.
You got the the only house 🏠
What deal?
Money ain’t shit, he made a song telling people he wanted to kill him self because we will never accept him
LuigiFan1305 he got a good twitch deal
LuigiFan1305 the 6 million a year deal with twitch
I think what made Logic great and what was inevitably his downfall was his yearning to be loved and accepted. His mom never showed him love and his dad abandoned them early on. Logic talks about being a child and watching TV where people were loved and had a family and pretending that was him. He was never loved and accepted growing up and the drive for the world to love him is what made him work so hard to be a great MC.
If only he knew how many people truly love him and the art he created.
He's still making music.....
What drugs is everyone on
Dr destruction project
Bobby Tarantino 3
Breath control freestyle and he's about to drop Vinyl Days album
Damn that's kinda like The Cable Guy. Dark humor tragedy movie with Jim Carey.
@@AsapMilk yea I'm sure what all these people are talking about, he's definitely still active.
@@codywood1295
If people choose not to hear about someone that's on them
If they're not a fan they're most definitely going to join the rest of the flock who says he's not active anymore
The easiest example I can give is PSY he's still active but most people believe he just made Gangnam style and dipped
He's so young. I don't believe for a second he's finished performing.
I say he asks E-40 to mentor his lyrics structure, build up his word selection and teach that wild west style. Kindle his new guy hunger back, change it to gotta Shit on them all energy. That guy has a rage beast in there. Don't know why he didn't tap that source? Hope he does and forces them fucks to bow to the Universal Logic.
He’s back.
Extremely Talented artist but I feel he never found himself because he lacks confidence , he’s too sensitive to be in his field. He grouped haters and constructive critics all together. He also tried to make every demographic happy repetitively and accept him but it backfired because that is not realistic. Be yourself unapologetically and you’ll be respected.
Nolan Guity you’re the first person to break it down properly. I wish logic saw this comment
The funny thing is, when he tried to be himself unapologetically, everyone made fun of him for it.
Facts Nolan
Too sensitive bro? That's all you have? You literally have to sell your soul, and be comfortable, with being groped by grown men. Do more research bro.
Jamal Thomas not going to deny that bro, but there are exceptions like when you have raw talent. And yes he is bro
People always tells you not to care what other people think but it's not that simple.
It IS that simple for some people but you're right...some ppl will never learn how to not look to others for validation.
@@VirgilHawkinsIs This is 5 months old now I forgot I said this lol
Logic will always be loved by his fan base
And nobody else
Yung Wun that’s right, millions upon millions of ppl love him
Yung Wun 1-800 people still love him for that track so...
Yea corny white kids
@@frankturcios6075 nah tons of black people like his music.
Logic never found himself as an artist. He never found a place to ground his character in. When he was coming up his character was an up and comer on the grind and we loved it, once he wasnt that up and comer though, he had no identity and it showed in his music
I always kind of thought his identity was geeky rapper that's into films and sci-fi.
Rozco sure but sadly that’s a very niche group and the majority of hip hop fans can’t relate
@@rzc0624 I loved that guy, he dipped and went commercial though :/
An album like TITS was himself as an artist imo
@Robert E. Speedwagon city of stars sounds like Kanye but that's about it...I don't hear Kendrick or drake at all so please pinpoint me to songs where he sounds like that lmfao
Now all the Logic haters are gonna come here and say "i loved him"
I really didn't
Still don’t fw him he reminds me of a kid in high school who tried to be my friend too hard and too much that I literally avoided him because of that exact reason
@@oriplaydirty Damn I feel bad logic so called wanted to be your friend
yea bruv i loved his music these mf that forced him to retire and hated him are trippin
I feel bad for that person who hated him goddam
Why do rappers let Joe Budden get to them dude is a failure in his own right 😂😂
I couldn't agree more. Budden is a fucking fail rapper who has never had the same level of success as the people he's critical of.
The fact that Budden gets to rappers means that he's not a failure... Means people really care about what he says
Ok you guys obviously didnt watch Joe Budden on the come up. He one of the forefathers of going against the industry in the 2000s. He didnt "fail" he said fuck being a puppet and it cost him but look at him now
Toussaint Brown Budden is funny as hell at times, but he’s akin to the fucking trolls that love to throw shit at people because they’re unhappy with themselves and their lives.
Joe Budden is having more success as a speaker on the culture than he ever had as a rapper. Eminem couldn’t even save his dwindling rap career with Slaughterhouse. If Eminem can’t save your career as a group act, then you know your solo career is DONE!
Keep in mind that Joe actually apologized to Logic. Budden likes to think that he put emo-rap on the map or some BS when in reality, Joe was never that influential.
Francisco Davis Budden hit the scene with Pump It Up. That was his breakout single. Yes, he switched his lane and started going against the grain, but his first and BIGGEST single of his career was as Pop as you can get from Rap/Hip-Hop. He lost all credibility when he began throwing stones at other rappers considering how he hit the scene and not to mention he was never a heavy hitter in Hip-Hop. At best he was a mid-card and I think I’m being generous.
NY listeners may beg to differ, but I can tell you that practically no one was listening to Joe Budden. Three of my top five rappers are from NY (or up North) might I add. I’m a GA boy, Atlanta native and I listened to Joe here and there. His career is rather forgettable to be honest and Logic is certainly a more impactful rapper. You cannot deny that.
Really good album to finish it off with. Sad to see the man quit.
Give it 5 years the same losers telling him to die or quit will grow up and wanting him to come back! Happened with LeafyIsHere on RUclips!.
It was super sad to see that he lost his love for making music
Keem Is that what happened exactly? I didn’t know the logistics of why he quit but I just assumed he wanted to be with his family and focus on other endeavors for now. Does he really not enjoy doing music anymore? I think maybe he just got burnt out from all the criticism, and I think within a few years he’ll announce a return to music. He’ll get hungry again.
@@2phonebabykeem913 never lost love for rap just hates the industry and cares for his family wants to be with them.
@@AlkoWasAlreadyTaken nah, he still enjoys makes raps and stuff. he even said on a stream he was cookin up with 6ix (his producer) a little while ago. it's a therapy, but since he made it out the basement doing music there's really no point in continuing with the industry considering he can do much more that just releasing it now
Man I don't know what made me watch this, but that part where the dude is pouring his heart out on a livestream while his real life friends, sitting right behind him just stare at their phones and completely ignore him made me feel really...bad.
They don't need to constantly give him attention. He was livestreaming it's really none of their business.
I think they were just trying to give him the space to talk, he was live-streaming and all that and they definitely did come in and talk at some points
You wanted the dudes to stand up and hug him?
Logic has done more in hip hop than 99.99% of rappers. No matter if the criticism was valid or not. Enjoy retirement bro.
Goopy Le Grande its not
99.99% of rapper? Exaggeration much?
FErgersonn THE GREAT there’s a million rappers... very few have #1 hits and get nominated for a Grammy... so yes... 99.99%
You corn the second you mention Grammys. No one watch that shit nor cares about it anymore
Run These Pearls holy shit bro! Thank you! Just because you said so. They have cancelled the Grammys forever and all the celebrities are returning their trophies 🏆
It is ashame how toxic hip-hop sometime community can be.
Much of it, was his own doing.
None was though you have rappers drop lazy or terrible albums. They don't clowned on as much as logic has.
He not even a hip hop artist to me he don’t reflect what’s going on in the innner City
Bruh have you seen Pop or K-Pop Community?? Hip-Hop is nowhere near toxic to their levels of toxicity. Logic was just too soft and made himself an easy target.
always
"If im killed by the questions like a cancer...then ill be buried in the silence of the answer"
"But in my mind I find...I can't rely on myself"
which song is this haha sorry for me being stupid
Linkin Park- myself I think first the first album (top of my head)
@@__High__Boy__ ok thank you
@@antisocialsclub7427 LoL."if i let them go ill be outdone..but if i..try to catch them ill be outrun"
Rappers un-retire all the time, time will tell.
Logic just needs a break from all the hate he’ll be back soon
Draxvelo in like 5 years people are gonna forget about logic’s name and reputation and then boom ultra 85
@@gliiitched4429 If the world is still recognizable by then
Except Vanilla Ice 🤣
@@felsal20 yes , let's keep that career buried lol
His sensitivity to criticism and the desire to be loved stems from childhood trauma ‘cause he was constantly neglected by his own family, got called the n-word and abused by his mother, and bullied by his family/friends. He made it his life mission to become a rapper and be loved by the masses, and theres always gonna be a little part of him that wants to be accepted.
Im a huge Logic fan, and yes, he can be derivative, wear influences on his sleeve, etc. But his beat selection, delivery, and voice was amazing in his songs from 2010-2016. Never got the same feelings/vibes from other artists as much as I did from Logic
Logic was one of the new generation of rappers who stuck to the roots of hiphop and lyricism.
Lyricism isn't the roots of hip hop. The 70s and 80s ( where the culture developed) it was more about the Beat and Dj than the MC. Soooo yall fan boys cringy with this "real hip hop" talk. That shit sucks
@@UngiftedBaskettiBall Hiphop gave us many things, beats, flow, lyricsm and story telling. Each of these evolved overtime through each generation. But this new generation has hit an old time low. Yall you mumble rappers sounds the same with your tatted ass faces, whack beats and corny overused lyrics about money and drugs.
@@gambeeno817 it hit the low in 2018. I'd say now it's steadily improving. Look at the many mumble rap failures
@@gambeeno817you don’t make rules in hip-hop and your opinion has no value. Just because we don’t like logic doesn’t mean we don’t listen to lyrical rappers either lol you white Boys all the same “mumble rappers,real hip-hop & I hate braggadocio”
I don’t understand why he got so much hate. He has SO many BANGERS and I’m gonna miss him:(. Hope he enjoys his retirement
Its this fuckin toxic culture from the space in our phones social media, all the up to the white house. Its all around us. Toxic KILLS 💀
he did it to himself. A lot of people shitting on him used to be fans. HE was really my favourite rapper back in the day but then the quality of his music went wayyy left. I saw hints of it during tits but that was still a good album. It's when he tried being that I love everybody pandering rapper that he lost credibility. It got to the point where i questioned if he was even the same person who dropped welcome to forever. His subject matter itself became corny.
Nakib Hasan. I mean your entitled to your own opinion but I’ve listened to him since the very beginning and I’ve loved his music through the whole journey. He tried spreading a good message but people now a days just wanna hear music about money and bitches and it’s all wack
Nakib Hasan and I don’t think he “did it to himself” he just wanted to have fun making music and wanted people to enjoy listening. But people found every little detail to criticize and make fun of. I’ve never seen a more toxic group than his haters and he didn’t deserve that
Always Random lazy take. He never exclusively rapped about money and bitches at any point of his career. New logic thinks rapping a lot of syllables quickly makes you a good rapper. Old logic was putting together coherent verses. I’ve been listening to logic from the beginning as well what does that even mean. I’m just not a blind fan. I was disappointed that the guy who I thought had goat potential turned into a corny rapper until no pressure.
im happy his last album was a good one and not like his 2 previous ones a good note to end on
I dont think his last album was bad i think people put to much expectation on someone how they make their music, Supermarket was such an underrated album one of my favorites showed so much creative & growth to jump out his comfort zone!
ET FROM EARTH yeah I think it’s great when artist leave their comfort zone and just make something they truly want to make and not just an album that is commercially viable and sounds good but while I agree it is underrated it is still not as quality as his latest album. His latest album if really fantastic because you can just hear he really doesn’t care what anyone thinks and he is just happy production gets music he is happy with and it is really polished and frankly every track is really good!
For real. The difference between No Pressure and the last 2 projects is like night and day. I like Logic but I didn’t have high hopes for this new album based on his recent output, but he really came through and dropped what’s probably his best body of work.
Hi Hisoka
I'll be shocked if he's not back rapping in some capacity within 3 years. I just take this as him wanting to do something else for a while, and not get bugged about rapping while he's doing it.
"I'm only 29 and i still aint hit my peak" -Logic, a year before No Pressure
ouch...
It's a PR stunt for when he comes back.
Wale and him have a similar issue when it comes to pleasing their credits
But Wale is ridiculously talented, Logic is just good imo
Francisco Davis stop trying him. Logic is EASILY the better rapper. You can make an argument he’s a better artist too
Deep
But logic isn't cocky
Francisco Davis agreed both are md artist to but I’m from pg county so I am a bigger wale fan for personal reasons.
“Why do you care?” Cole gave logic advice that logic could’ve easily told himself....
Classic case of...you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
Dude...It's called "advice" for a reason; someone else gives you that information.
not always that easy.
I mean I get what y’all saying, I been a logic fan since 2011, but even a long term fan can say logic Is super soft
@@AudioGAWD damn that got me
I mean, I posted a retirement speech when I shut down my Facebook account. I even rented out a days inn with a Chinese Buffet, RSVP..
Nobody showed, up.
Not even my girl she said "She was busy & had to wait on a Amazon Package" ... 😐
People praise agents of chaos like 69 and never question Drake's blackness.
Why would people question drake's blackness? Everything from his team to the women he's involved with are usually black. He makes music for black people. Logic dates white women, his team is white, and makes music for white people.
All Black Everything that’s completely invalid
@@ahmedhani970 No it's not, and you aren't black. So whatever your opinion is on what defines someone's blackness is invalid. It's as simple as owning it. Which drake does.
@@ForTheViolence ayt I'm black and what I have to say is drakes baby mama is white, drakes producer is also white. And people questioned logics blackness, why don't they question drakes? It's unfair, because we all know logics dad was black and mom was white why do we need to question his blackness just because he looks more white than black.
Ya'll kill me with this "drake's producer thing" Like 40 is the only producer he has on his albums. Go look at the credits for his albums. You act like drake chose to have a baby with that women. That's just who he happened to get pregnant. He has black women in all his videos. Most of the artist he has signed on his label are black. He's featuring black people and putting black people on. Logic's blackness being questioned by what he looks like are your words not mine. There is nothing black about that man other than his father. Even the people who listen to logic are 90% white. You can't associate anything black with him other than that. I rest my case.
@@fazenm7614
Notice how he always makes his best music when he didn't care what people thought of him. compare the young Sinatra callection, the Bobby Tarantino collection, even The Incredible True Story and especially No Pressure. You can feel that he was just being himself. The reason why "Everybody" and "Confessions of A Dangerous Mind" failed is because that's when he let everything start getting to him and he wanted to impress everyone. He was trying too hard. He was trying to be what he thought people wanted him to be. Thus, being what nobody actually wanted him to be. But it was nice to see him exit with the mindset "idc what people think anymore" and left us with an amazing last album. I'll always hold logic close to my heart. Since high school he's been one of my favorites, minus those two albums I mentioned.
Everybody is far from being the best of logic, but is not bad men
I agree with you man! EVERYBODY and COADM werent his best albums but they had some good songs on them. but sometimes it feels like logic just gets hated on for no reason.
I liked Everybody but not Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. I have to listen to the last album again.
YES bro. No pressure he went back to his roots. If he stayed retired and that was his last album I wouldn’t even be mad. Great comeback. Ur so right. Incredible true story his best album btw
Wow this comment aged well. With his Vinyl Days album, he clearly showed his passion for music and didn’t purposely make music to please any audience. He’s grown a lot and learned to accept that not everyone is going to like him and his music and he’s now able to put that aside and continue to create amazing music for those of us that are fans
Such a shame that social media forced him to retirement. He’s made songs that got me through some rough days. I appreciate logic and hope he comes back some day.
He seems like such a nice guy, too nice for hip hop. He didnt deserve all that hate.
This dude was fire when he came out
I think thats the biggest thing. I was a HUGE supporter of him in the mixtape days. He just wasnt rapping like he used to after he got big.
Young Sinatra (1) was really nice. Despite the stolen beats
Mohammed J Bouallala stolen????
@@bboykabir2 you mean sampled? and if you really mean the beat was stolen, other rappers "steal" beats that were on other songs
@@bboykabir2 LMAO it's a mixtape, where you can sample freely
Regardless of if you like him or not you have acknowledge that his flow went crazy
Logic's case is complicated. He proves lyrical prowess is not enough to sustain a long-term rap career at a certain level, or at the level he wishes he was or he thinks he is, you need a certain mindset and personality to gain the mass appeal in this genre. Is not like Rock or Pop, where everyone is quite permissive and understanding, Hip Hop is like a prison yard, and you need to stand tall and proud or not be in the spotlight at all. You need to be made of a certain wood to rule this place, and, sadly, he isn't. The community does not care about him at all, I'd say he's even more hated than Hopsin. He's like Eminem, but he lacks his aggression and temperament. Logic is way too sweet and kind-hearted. But, in the end, he contributed to the genre extensively, so he shouldn't feel sad. He simply should move on to other projects, like raising his baby.
Facts. He’s always lacked the hunger. He can’t ride that peace love and positivity bs forever because...it gets corny. He never challenges himself and as time went on his pen game declined. Now 80% of his lyrics are filler. He just isn’t goat material. If all the memes and budden hurt him so much, why didn’t he address it in his music?
I wouldn't say that because we accept rapper's like Childish Gambino, Kyle, and Tyler The Creator. Nobody would ever say those guys are hard. At the end of the day if you make good music it will silence the critics.
Logic just tends to make a mistake in crafting albums. He had the whole space thing in in his second album but most of the songs had anything to even do with that theme. The album as a whole didn't tell the story with the songs. Only with skits. Then the skits continued into his later albums with no real conclusion .
Then he mistakes rapping fast for being a good rapper. Alot of times he just repeats words over and over fast and doesn't have anything real to say.
> He simply should move on to other projects, like raising his baby.
Lmao this is so rude
@mike dollars calm down buddy its a probably hard as hell being in the place where logic was.. how would you handle it if thousands of people would hate on you and calling you worthless?
Stevie Nguyen “always lacked the hunger”? I agree with that if you’re talking about the last 4 years but before that the guy rapped like he had a huge chip on his shoulder, you could hear it
I never been famous or rich, but I understand. im glad he's happy
I'm glad he left. Human beings are toxic, and all they were doing was trying to tear the man down. Why can't people just be happy for others? And yes I know he had fans, and yes you can "turn off social media," but he is a human being like the rest of us. Yet people just wanted due to be like all the other famous people that threw away their soul. I'm glad the man is doing what is best for him and his family!
you are unfortunately correct society has just become so toxic like jesus. YOU cant say ANYTHING nowadays without some people hating on you. thats how life is!
The reasons people find it hard to be happy for others is because life screws people over and everybody to some degree feels entitled to a "good" life, aka money, bitches, popularity. It doesnt matter who you are but if you succeed at anything you can rely on people coming after you because they dont like you, they may claim all kinds of reasons why they dont like you but in the end its simple, you got a chance to be successful and they either havent got one or they didnt take it so they resent that you have it and they dont.
I think Logic is another criminally underrated artist! He honestly has a pretty dope catalog of work and the No Pressure album is 🔥! With that being said, I think that he’s making the right move. He’s talented and creative enough to forge a new path for himself, a path where he may be able to find true happiness. Any of us would take that chance if we could. I wish him the best.
*criminally overrated. Dude has no talent.
Joe BUDDEN takes L’s all the time that’s why he scared to respond to Eminem
NOW HES BACK FUCK YEAAAA
Its because the state of mainstream hip hop community is super toxic and closed minded now. That's why there's limited creativity. And the worst part is that most avid fans of mainstream hip hop just see an image but dont know anything about the person behind the music.
im late but you spittin facts
But the true people that are garbage is mainstream hip-hop
I don't know how he made it this far without thick skin. All celebs need thick skin.
Under pressure changed my life , I wish I could go back and hear that for the first time
Needed thick skin. He didn't have it. Not mad at him.
You know I think since he started off HOT he herd nothing but praise so when people switched on him he was confused and couldn't understand why he was being made fun when at first everything was cool... idk just my opinion
@@moisesmontecillo7570 100% when he came up with projects like under pressure he raised the bar very high, he was huge in the community that loved him. He needed to stay to his niche, not meaning that he shouldnt have released "pop" songs like 1-800 but I feel like her failed to foster a fanbase that would out-voice "haters". People like youngboy or even Russ get so much hate, but their fans arguably fight back. I dont feel like anyone fought back for logic in the same way.
@Khitty Kat Always? Nah.
@Khitty Kat it might hurt in a way but its good to foster a community that will stand by you. He didnt do so, he did the opposite he focused on the hate and got lost in his own self pity rather than growing a true/real fanbase.
Everybody can tell you how to do it they never did it. Talk is cheap until you walk that walk.
We all need to be thankful to experience logic. We saw him grow up without a father and now he wants to be there for his kid and be the best father he can. That's awesome. I love logic and I think he won at the end of it all.
Man you’re gonna do Logic like that, promote a hair loss product when making a video about him smh
i love how everybody here is like “nah he a grown ass man toughen up” but have never, and probably will never be under the scrutiny and harsh criticism of literally millions of people on EVERYTHING they say. so you have zero frame of reference or understanding here. most of y’all probably can’t take somebody you know talking shit about you without losing complete control over your emotions lmao
I think it's just the way the hip hop community is - if you haven't got thick skin then you probably shouldn't be a rapper
Gay
MylesB93 most of the people in hip-hop are incredibly thin-skinned. They perpetuate this idea of how one should be, without really living up to it.
America in a nutshell honestly...
MylesB93 most artists in general, not even just hip-hop artists are thin-skinned when it comes to their work. it’s their ART, and i think anybody who creates any form of art would understand that. and to say they shouldn’t make that art because “the community is harsh” is absurd
I would love those millions to white I mean wipe my tears 😢😢😢😢
He’s a great artist over all , more people should be themselves like he is
Exactly if you are boring just be boring
Hyacinth Sinclair no 💯
Thing is tho I think that's the issue
It doesn't seem like he's being himself it seems like he's trying to fit in
He’ll be back . Sometimes you have to leave for a while to focus on your yourself , so you come back stronger . 💪🏻
It is toxic out there. You have to ignore the hate and keep doing you while showing love to your fans since they got you where you are.
Logic was another one of those rappers who could've been one of the greatest of all time, and fell into the bullshit of the current wave of hip hop and lost his path. Anyway, No Pressure was excellent, and I'm happy that he retired at a great point in his career, and hopefully he stacked his money right.
Ain’t no could’ve would’ve when it comes to art. You are in full control of what you make, especially in 2020. Your decisions are part of your art. He’s skilled but he lacks originality severely.
Logic was incredibly talented and he was real about who he is. I respect that.
I hope someday when his kid is grown or something he comes back with another album... sharing the insights he gained on life as a parent. I’m sure the fans would come out of the woodwork. Been a fan of Logic since Under Pressure. Crazy to see him complete is character arc in a sense with NO PRESSURE.
Like imagine being Logic and hearing Joe Budden say you're 1 of the worst rappers ever, while his podcast friends laugh. Fucking heartbreaking man. I'll always love Logic and I'm glad he's in a position to focus on family and avenues that give him happiness
joe budden's a one hit wonder lol
@@yungabdul1871 budden would have to PUMP UP his talent to get on Logics level
@@danielwood8135 Budden is more of a clown than ICP
@@roghider319 lol
and now he's back.
but everything aside , the video is amazing the writing , delivery and editing is almost flawless .. keep up the work my man !
appreciate that!
He wasn't forced to retire he made an decision to leave hip hop.
@Ted Myers Facts
Watch dead end hip hop video
@Ted Myers yes he made a decision but that doesn't make cyberbullying right.
hip hop did NOT force him to retire, bobby has a family now, he feels that he’s done enough and doesn’t need to go on. He has happiness now and doesn’t need social media or media in general anymore. logics been in the game since 2011 and has done so much in 10 years. Mans made millions to last him and his kid(s) a lifetime, but when people still try and rip him apart no matter how good he did, it’s tiring and sickening. #FUCKJOEBUDDEN
He chose to leave. It is what it is.
Honestly I'm Glad He Did, To Be That Big & Successful And Still Not Understanding That No Matter What You Do Someone Is Going To Dislike You. The Fact They Also Only Spoke About His Music And NOT His Character Is Big Too, EVERBODY Has To Form A Thick Skin. Internet Comments Are Mean To Be Mean, He Wasn't Built For This But EVERBODY Has To Understand Criticism Is Needed And Necessary. No One Is Without Flaw.
@@PhenomenalByChoice 1. Logic knew what he was getting into in terms of the hate he recieved, which is why he tried to please everyone with his music. The epiphone Logic had around the time he decided to retire is that pleasing everyone is something you simply can't do.
2. People insulted Logic's music, along with his family, race, and appearance.
3. There is a very discernible difference between criticism, assuming you were talking about the constructive kind, and mean or snarky remarks.
4. At the end of the day, rappers are *human beings* who in one way or another are susceptible to demoralization from their listeners. Sorry, but the prospect of forming "a thick skin" which you presented as being a counter to the waves of consumer negativity that rappers face *daily* simply is not viable under any circumstances.
He had a kid he had to focus on being a dad
@@PhenomenalByChoice Why do you type so annoying?
@@HipHopfan_ I Try To Stand Out Instead Of Blend In 🧐.
Every emcee says they're retiring yet no emcee ever retires
Joe Budden: am I a joke to you??
Joe Budden did
logic might comeback one day but im pretty sure he’ll be retired for a while man
Marcela K. Preininger Joe Budden ain’t an MC. Joe Budden a joke
Ollie okay Oliver lmao
Damn bro I genuinely love logic, his music and who he is as a person and this is just sad
Him retiring is honestly for the better.
As someone who isn't a logic fan, I still believe he had more to contribute, but all in all I'm happy for bro. People can hate all they want but in the end he was a huge success.
Just wish he could see it that way
John Doe they who?
Logic is still my favorite rapper. To see him talk about the rap industry and how it ultimately led him to retirement is so aggravating.
Reality: one of the best MC in his generation, but not respected or given credit in the hip hop community . Only by his fans
The irony: if he would to pass away. Everyone will say “he was the best” not wishing him Ill things. I’m just saying how everyone is fake at times. This is just my opinion.
I’m completely. When a rappers dies everyone all of a sudden called there music masterpieces and shit
a lot of his "hate" are valid criticisms he should have worked on
On god dude was saying how he was biracial every line
For whatever reason he couldn't handle the criticisms, so he made a great album similar to his old style to please people then he retired to be free of criticism
Xeno Bell he actually didnt bro, someone did the math and read thru every lyric of every song he put out and he only talks about it 9% of the time, you only notice it because its what you look for
humberto velasco almost 1 out of every 10 lines is still a very big ratio!
humberto velasco but I didn’t tho and that is still considered that each songs probably has like 200+ words in it
The hip-hop community thinks that the only way to have ever struggled is to have grown up in a bad neighborhood. Any other struggle doesn't exist.
If you grew up in poverty than all the other social or personal issues you're dealimg with take a backseat. Hard to worry about not being accepted in school when your stomach is growling.
@@semird615 I've put my hunger aside for awhile and for many different reasons, some good and some were stupid, I'll never be able to let go of the hate I feel that was bred in public school. I can control it, suppress it, but never be rid of it. Its not something you forget or get over easily being made to feel like an outcast. Most either go one of two ways: they hate themselves for not fitting in and try to appease everyone. Or they end up loving it more then they want to be accepted and take it from me that is a dangerous mindset to have. Eventually you start to feel like other people are in your way for no good reason. Like they are the ones who don't belong here. Like you should be rid of them. Most people don't come back from it before its too late.
@@therealjoker6706 I've had huge struggles in middle school and trust me I feel you. The things we experience in those periods shape us and can be determental to what we grow up to be. It will always linger in the back of my head somewhere so I have to stay bussy, crying about it is not the way to go. Guess what a lot of people endured a lot of bs in their younger years for different reasons, you're not alone. As a grown ul you have to know your worth regardless of how anxios or insecure you were. Children can be real monsters, I know that very well but the adult world can be different because you finally get to choose who you hang out with. So find positive, productive people that value you and make you feel like you belong. It takes time to reverse the effects of bullying but we have to keep trying, we have no other choice. Don't hold grudges because it's only making you feel worse and as an adukt there are a lot of more important things to spend your energy on.
@@semird615 read his backstory. His parents were addicts.
Dude read the guys history. I don't think having 2 half brothers/sisters and parents as addicts is not struggling.
Logic was one of the best artist in the 2010 era. While he wasn’t mainstream until the everybody Album, he was still making hit after hit. We might not get another album, his music will always be an inspiration like all other songs
So I was wondering why he made a public announcement of his retirement instead of just falling off like most rappers do. it still gave him a position in the community while allowing him to come and go as he pleases. this video helped a lot. he was beaten to the point where he got burnt out. the public announcement was him telling people that he is done. Maybe allowing himself to breath.
There is ABSOLUTELY no one to blame except society on this one. Logic was one of the most genuine people that ever came across the game and just because he wanted to share his stories and fight for people who have been oppressed for so long society took him as a joke. He stood up for those with mental illness, he stood up for those that were and are oppressed and dealt with those issues on his own. The fact that we as a culture practically bullied him into retirement yet welcomed the likes of 69 home and keep listening to garbage human beings shows where we stand as a society as a culture. We do not let people live anymore and it’s truly truly disgusting. This is not a matter of “oh he just can’t take criticism and doesn’t have thick skin” this is him going “well no matter what I do I get more hate than love so why don’t I stop doing this and do something I won’t get mass amounts of hate for?” And he quite literally says this...it went past music with him tbh
So now after everyone took their turn putting Logic through depression and forced him to stop making music, now y'all want to feel sympathy? Nawhh
How can someone else put you through depression. Don’t people realize your in charge of your own happiness and sadness.
@@ziggyinthecut I respect that response, however when you're a not a manipulated specimen for hollywood or the music industry, you really try to do what best for the people, and when the people are always talking shit about you, it can be a stressful place.
Logic makin more bank than them, thats why yall mad
Who’s back after logic just dropped “intro” 🤞🤞
Either way, I respect Logic. One of my favorite artist.
Same, now what the hell got that cat shook in your profile?
@@truthinaction0000 honestly I have no idea ahaha this has been my profile picture for years now though ahaha
Logic's music has helped me through alot of hard times. I hate to see an artist that just wont be accepted by their musical community/ peers because of a racial issue. Hes gone through alot and deserves recognition and consideration.
I can’t wait for his comeback with a banger or an album
I never understood the hate he's been receiving, though, I'm happy that he has the clarity to focus his energies on something more important: his familia. When threats (physical or digital) start to overreach into this personal space and affect his mental state, I think it was for the better. I think he took certain criticisms a bit personal but also, his true fan base will stick with him though it all. I wish the man the best now that he's a role model for someone who needs him the most.
broken people stay bitching till they break you.
im back, and that't that
Happy he’s back
Second. but its cool no pressure
Nice
No Pressure is fucking gold, been listening to it for weeks now
It wasn't that was pushed out. Some artists just get left behind. He wasn't making good music for the majority of his career. He could make some solid beats, but he relied on the speed of his voice rather than focusing on the lyrics. And it really showed towards the end of his career. But honestly him no longer rapping may have been the best thing for him? I love his Beats and his new project. This video makes a good job pointing out that he was stressed. With the name logic no longer attached to him, his music literally feels like him finally breathing.
The difference between Instagram and RUclips comments on the topic is astronomical. People on IG always go for the jugular and 99% of people in these RUclips comments are understanding and truthful
They praise Snitch 9 yet shit on a good dude like Logic smh
Really good video. I’ve seen him since his come up and what matters is that he is happy now :)
What good music has Budden put out since Pump It Up anyway. Rap game is full of talk on and off records, but Logic gotta do whats best for him and his family.
I truly respect Logic’s decision but if he thought the Hip Hop community was toxic, twitch chat takes it to another level deadass. Hopefully they leave him alone
Well, he's back. And I'm so excited.
I bet Blueface ain't going nowhere...🤣🤣
Na we like him
Blue face is trash
Nobody said anything about Blueface... And I would rather listen to Blueface over that garbage album Comfessions Of A Dangerous Mind.
...Blueface been Gone. it’s Just, the Public Hasn’t realized it yet lol.
Hahaha
I may be the minority here but I like every Logic album!
Me too
I honestly can't wait for him to drop Vinyl Days. I know he sees his fans supporting him constantly and I know that he still got it.
Logic is easily one of the best rappers in the 2010’s. He is dedicated to the craft. People hate seeing him be able to have the skill he has acquired. His mixtapes, under pressure, the incredible true story, Bobby Tarantino1-2, and no pressure are his best works. ( My opinion) Everybody was a good concept. I think it was executed well. The problem is that he ranted on songs, which i think was unnecessary. Confessions of a dangerous mind wasn’t that great to me. I just felt like I heard this already.
If logic releases Ultra 85 as his next album. I hope he switches his flows and find a new flow. His work has been very similar lately. It would be nice to see something new. Super Market, was a great start at trying out new things. He should also tell more stories in his raps. It takes us as listeners on a journey in our imaginations.