No that’s not the problem it’s always someone who thinks they are better than everyone else and they make it about them instead of the group you have to deal with egos especially when everybody is in their 20s and early 30s
True. The only which i think had *THE BEST GROUP IN RAP HISTORY* obviously is *N.W.A.* But going for a Top Five in things of talent, lyrics, longetivity, what they did for the culture etc (Just my and only my opinion) It is: 1- N.W.A 2- Wu-Tang Clan 3- 2 Pac's The Outlawz 4- Biggie's The Junior Mafia 5- Slaughterhouse
@DarnellOB98 it was G-Unit’s plan to take over all the coasts in 1 group. 50, Yayo and Banks repping East, Buck repping Dirty South, and Game of course reppin Westside. It was short lived.
A collective like TDE, or Dreamville has a better chance of surviving since they are not a group. A bunch of artists that do some things together and help each other out is more likely to succeed
@@jaimeespiritu1285 the only thing I will say about Dreamville is that it still goes to the point of why groups don’t last. J. Cole is the founder of the label, and he is also the biggest artist of the label. His success is still overshadowing every one by a landslide. He hasn’t found that artist yet to take the mantle when he eventually retires. As dope as JID, EarthGang and all the other MC’s are, none of them have struck gold yet which is surprising because they’re all talented.
In rap all 4 artists can stand out on a track though Flows, cadences, lyricism, wordplay, rhyme schemes, melodies, etc. Each individual rapper can bring a different perspective to the same song
A rap label with a dope lyrical roster, no, but an actual group is certainly reaching its end for 5 Kobe’s on the same team. Specially when everybody dope, like griselda or others
Not everyone can be at the center of attention. some people work harder than others and have more talent and luck than others as well, but the hard work is the biggest factor. Not to mention the label will sometimes have favorites. You put all these things together and you see crews are always destined to be destroyed, only few have survived.
More great content and writing 🔥 "Groups tend to represent a moment in time, rather than becoming a long term proposition." This very well applies too relationships/friendships as well.
Human beings always have some form of insecurity. The thing about groups as well it becomes hard to develop a solo career when you're used to doing music with a collective. That 2nd verse gets hard to write or they don't work on their hook delivery because you become comfortable knowing someone is their to cover your weakness
Shout out to the LOX. I always remember Jadakiss saying "every time a group broke up, we look at each other and said we dont do that". Im sure over the last 25 years somebody had a falling out but they never aired that dirty laundry. I admire that.
Run The Jewels is the only exception. I think what El-P and Killer Mike have done in the past 8 years is truly incredible. They’ve had mildly successful solo careers, but they expanded their brand and became headlining superstars when they joined forces.
Duos like Mobb Deep, Gang Starr, Run The Jewels, etc., don't really have the same set-up as groups do. I think they have better longevity on average because they're only relying on one relationship being sustainable.
@@bjornofficial4688 Naa dude your tripping,Conway the best lyricist in Griselda bro,listen to “94 Ghost”,Conway spazzed on that beat bro,and Westside is also dope.
@@afiqharraz5518 Griselda hasn’t been an industry group long enough, anything can happen. Hate to be a nihilist but anything is possible in the industry
If you watch Benny’s interview with Adam22, he maintains that Griselda is a label and not a group. Their releases are compilations, rather than group albums.
I've always felt hip hop collectives should really function like an anarchist affinity group. Individuals agreeing to come together as equals to accomplish a goal democratically. Once that goal is met the group is dismantled and only returned to if needed. Otherwise new formations can take place whenever they want. That way it's recognized as individuals coming together, not a unit of like-minded people when most of the time it's not, and they're free to go their separate ways whenever. They came together to create something and they'll go off alone to create something. When an artist joins an art collective they don't stop doing solo work. Just makes more sense to be practical and realistic and avoid having any leaders or anything like that.
Blue from the Temptaions said it best "nobody's bigger than the group". I get it. Its always a point man or a shining star, but you got there with the group. Michael was a kid and asked to be in the group just to be with his brothers and sing with them. The world heard him and the rest is Jacksons history. Now Mike moved and did his own thing. The king of pop, still put on for his bros all the way to his death. Some people have different visions outside the group, but when you step in the studio with us, its us. Lets work and create as us.
@@malik2644 I think he did have talent at some point but not anymore. HelloYassine recently did some videos on him. I think he lost his talent cause of his laziness
I expect spillage village to last long, they dont seem to force things as much as others they just be doing their own thing and collab with each other a lot and then randomly drop an album every 3 or 4 years
Hhm is like the smartest analytics on the hip hop culture, I would actually consider writing a statistical research paper based on the videos I watch from this channel, very educative
Mobb Deep, The LOX, MOP, Wu Tang are some of the best groups that stayed unified despite whatever personal and petty beefs within their circle. Griselda is looking to be up there too.
For every group that broke up there's one that never folded ego gets in the way and with us being in the social media age things are public knowledge. But there are plenty of groups who are still around and been rocking because they truly fuck with each other and aren't out for number one.
I think they could've had a great career as a group if Pac didn't die which just killed their hype and split the group. They are good on tracks like When We Ride or keep ya head up II
Rap crews usually do 2 albums then realize they get more money doing solo projects. N.W.A , G-unit, Westside Connection, D12, Slaughterhouse ....hell Black Hippy never even put out an album.
@@niek8877 they sold 8 million records world wide . Those guys split the d12 money evenly . The still have millions in the bank. Check their net worth. They still make money off the mix tapes they put out and they get Royalties from any D12 music. Not any Eminem solo music and less it’s a song featuring D12 like ‘one shot’. I mean he could’ve not done anything and not sign them and just let them sitting in Detroit with no money at all. That and Mr. Porter now has a career as being a producer. He is signing to both shady and aftermath as a producer. Yes if proof hadn’t of been killed we may have seen two more D12 hours by now but I don’t look at that as a fault of Eminem’s really.
@@bdr113080 yea true for Kon Artis (Mr. Porter) but I dont think Kuniva, Swifty and Bizarre benefited from going solo. I can ensure you that those 3 would rather make D12 albums
@@niek8877 I see what you’re saying but all I’m pointing out is that those guys did benefit from it. No they didn’t go on to have a successful solo careers as guys like Eminem, Game, or 50 But that’s how it is in every era of hip-hop. At least they are still in the rap game and music is putting food on their table. I mean there are really only two other alternatives. One Eminem doesn’t sign them at all and if he doesn’t do that then they don’t get to experience that was five or six years when they were on top of the world.. The other is that everyone in the group goes on to become Legends. That’s just not how it is. I think the D 12 guys are doing a lot better than the G-Unit guys are financially. MC Ren never went on to have the careers that Cube, Dre and Eazy had. Out of all the guys from Death Row era, only Dre and Snoop Maintain the same status they had back then as they do now. That doesn’t mean guys like Warren G, Daz, Nate Dogg , Trey Deee and Kurupt didn’t get their own blessings . I got Daz’s latest album and I love it. No he’s not going platinum but he owns his own music now and he can sell 20,000 copies and get more money than he would selling 500,000 on a major. Warren G still has a net worth of 10 million. Just because someone is in a stand out doesn’t mean they completely fallen off and are in the dirt and tricking in the streets and shit. And they wouldn’t be in that position if it wasn’t for the guys that became mega stars. I think it’s amazing 3 guys from that era (Em, 50, Game) Manage to stay relevant for 20 years. Go back and look at it at the track record for other labels. They don’t really hold up as well.
Only 1 hip-hop crew from the Golden Age has survived with all of it's original members, over 30 years later. And that's that *Thuggish Ruggish Bone Bone Bone!*
Hell yeah !I was looking for Bone and lox... going through the comments with cmd+f(searching for bone). Notorious thugs is one of the best hiphop songs ever.
Exactly and we all know Jada the best in the group yet they will never fold. So when I see these excuses I just see l excuses because the Lox did solo projects too but they never folded as a group.
@@shahnawazsooba7904 WuTang lasted all most a decade of consistent music and each artist went on to do their own thing as solo artists, idk what else they could have done. Ruff Ryderz and The Roc only lasted like 4 years but they made iconic music and one of the best concerts of all time and branched off to movies, clothing and definitely impacted the culture at the time. Imo these groups were as successful as possible.
I guess the problem is, that they're all rappers, more or less occupying the same space and serving the same function in the group while simultaniously trying to stand out among their co-members. Other than for example a band, in which everybody is doing something different, being able to shine in their individual fields without getting in the way of each other ultimately resulting in a complementary collaborative product. Just my theory.
@@programSense Not only the singers. Several members may feel the need to explore different musical avenues and partner up with other musicians to do so. Sometimes that results in a split but mostly it's just side projects with the original band remaining intact.
@@RÅNÇIÐ exactly. for example, phil collins was the drummer of genesis and peter gabriel was the lead singer. yet both men branched out, and it really worked out for phil collins going solo as vocalist as we all know by his hit songs. same thing with dave grohl. former drummer of nirvana, became lead singer and songwriter/founder of the foo fighters
Does ATCQ count? Because they had a really consistent discography, their 2016 album WGIFH...TY4YS was insane and showed that they still have the skill.
Well they did have an 18-year hiatus between albums, so they definitely count. But it's a testament to their chemistry that they were able to put out such an incredible comeback album, after all that time apart.
most people in rap come from that hunger from being at the bottom... Thats, why it will never work cause one person or two, will always deviate from the rest in what they want there futures to be
I feel like groups (at least the name) do last, maybe they form a group in order to get big and branch out to their own concepts and ideas but the group name lasts and they keep it alive in order to eventually collab once again but I dont think that groups necessarily "die out"
You missed the other reasons like death of a member (Beastie Boys) and a record company only wanting to retain a single artist from the group (Busta Rhymes and LONS)
I became a fan at the twilight of OF (mid-late 2014). By then Tyler already started distancing himself, Frank was off and Earl became more insular. But even in retrospect you could see it wasn’t built to last. The disparity among talents, relatability, subject matter and honestly, charisma, kept certain members from breaking through the way others did. Shit’s heartbreaking.
Odd Future split off mostly with wellness though. The only artist involved who had bad moods about anyone else was Hodgy and that got patched up a bit later. Tyler, Earl and Frank being put together to see who's the best rapper is hard to argue as well with how their paths split off from each other.
They were young kids having fun when they started out. But the industry decimated their group real quick. But that collective sparked a lot of amazing careers and talents with Frank Ocean, Earl Sweatshirt, The Internet. And of course Tyler, The Creator.
Rap groups don't last bcus of money and ego.when u have a group of individuals with different opinions and different thoughts on how they want to do business things fall apart.most groups always come in with the we a team ,we family etc.but soon as they start getting hot are have people whispering in their ear about how much more talented than the other group members are then there's a issue.and when money is involved adults tend to get tired of splitting money with other adults ,they want to go solo ,bcus of artistic differences etc.just too many people involved
id really like for you to revisit this subject and touch more on the rap groups that HAVE lasted, wether it be older groups that are still playing vegas shows or newer ones like teamsesh that have been unwavering for almost 10 years now
I agree, and i also believe that as a solo artists it may be wise to for an "alliance" rather than a group. Something like how TDE had Q, Rock, Dot, and Soul do mad collab but still remained solo artists.
No matter the genre i.e. Hip Hop/rap, R & B, Pop, Rock, Country groups never last due to the fact of one or two members of the group having aspirations of a solo career. Jus look at the history Temptations, Jackson 5, the Beatles, NSYNC, Rage Against The Machine, Destinys Child, Dru Hill etc
Brockhampton is a group I enjoy because it doesn't feel like there's a "main" guy. Wu Tang has RZA, OF has Tyler, ASAP has Rocky, etc. BH does have Kevin, but he feels more of a de facto leader more than him being the first artist I think of when I hear the name of the group. Honestly, I prefer the efforts of the group more than the solo stuff. I like the one verse from a member or a small contribution from another rather than a whole solo project.
Yep. And grievance is pronounced "gree- vuns" not "gree-vee-uns". Also "no love lost" is NOT a term of endearment- it is used to describe bitter enemies.
If they take these cautionary tales "in stride", it means they will not give them much thought. I believe you meant the opposite. Especially following with the "those who dont study history.." quote. To "Take it in stride" means to not let that particular thing have any effect on what you're currently doing. To brush it off, essentially. Regardless, thanks to this channel fot the great work \m/
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Ill tell you why, it's because there's always someone who's better than the rest and even if the group doesn't realize...the public will
That's fax
No that’s not the problem it’s always someone who thinks they are better than everyone else and they make it about them instead of the group you have to deal with egos especially when everybody is in their 20s and early 30s
Wu Tang Clan
True. The only which i think had *THE BEST GROUP IN RAP HISTORY* obviously is *N.W.A.* But going for a Top Five in things of talent, lyrics, longetivity, what they did for the culture etc (Just my and only my opinion) It is:
1- N.W.A
2- Wu-Tang Clan
3- 2 Pac's The Outlawz
4- Biggie's The Junior Mafia
5- Slaughterhouse
@@MattyGeneric lyrical wise I put slaughterhouse 1 but idk what they did for the culture but that group has to be 1 when it comes to lyrical ability
Hip-hop is a genre built on a competitive spirit. Groups can thrive but not everyone is built with the same work ethic. So they rarely survive.
N.W.A and G-Unit is a proper example of that.
That used to not be the case. Bone, UGK, Triple 6, Wu, Onyx, De La, Tribe,... record companies have a part to play in why this has changed.
@CreeWilly Banks and The Game went they own way while Buck and Yayo was still clinging onto 50.
@DarnellOB98 it was G-Unit’s plan to take over all the coasts in 1 group. 50, Yayo and Banks repping East, Buck repping Dirty South, and Game of course reppin Westside. It was short lived.
@@theninethrees8044 banks ? No maybe after 10-15 yrs
A collective like TDE, or Dreamville has a better chance of surviving since they are not a group. A bunch of artists that do some things together and help each other out is more likely to succeed
Right like it’s clear J Cole the best rapper/artist in that group, but they’re all good artists and can carry a song.
Was waiting for this comment. Dreamville is something different and we all know j cole will run that to perfection.
@@jaimeespiritu1285 the only thing I will say about Dreamville is that it still goes to the point of why groups don’t last. J. Cole is the founder of the label, and he is also the biggest artist of the label. His success is still overshadowing every one by a landslide.
He hasn’t found that artist yet to take the mantle when he eventually retires. As dope as JID, EarthGang and all the other MC’s are, none of them have struck gold yet which is surprising because they’re all talented.
@@Gaminggod23. JID is a much much better rapper than J Cole.
Facts
A rap group is like having a rock band with 4 lead singers. Makes no sense.
different flows & styles though.
Even rock bands find difficulty keeping together cuz of conflicts and stuff but they do it a little better than rap groups
In rap all 4 artists can stand out on a track though
Flows, cadences, lyricism, wordplay, rhyme schemes, melodies, etc.
Each individual rapper can bring a different perspective to the same song
A rap label with a dope lyrical roster, no, but an actual group is certainly reaching its end for 5 Kobe’s on the same team. Specially when everybody dope, like griselda or others
@Max wu tang has one good album
Not everyone can be at the center of attention. some people work harder than others and have more talent and luck than others as well, but the hard work is the biggest factor. Not to mention the label will sometimes have favorites. You put all these things together and you see crews are always destined to be destroyed, only few have survived.
This right here.
More great content and writing 🔥
"Groups tend to represent a moment in time, rather than becoming a long term proposition." This very well applies too relationships/friendships as well.
Very well said.
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What up bro! Thanye?
@@Karlyle7 Yep, Thanye! I'll hit you up on gram in a while
Human beings always have some form of insecurity. The thing about groups as well it becomes hard to develop a solo career when you're used to doing music with a collective. That 2nd verse gets hard to write or they don't work on their hook delivery because you become comfortable knowing someone is their to cover your weakness
Great comment👌
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Shout out to the LOX. I always remember Jadakiss saying "every time a group broke up, we look at each other and said we dont do that". Im sure over the last 25 years somebody had a falling out but they never aired that dirty laundry. I admire that.
Well d-block had plenty of fallouts all oft hemninfact
Run The Jewels is the only exception. I think what El-P and Killer Mike have done in the past 8 years is truly incredible. They’ve had mildly successful solo careers, but they expanded their brand and became headlining superstars when they joined forces.
Duos like Mobb Deep, Gang Starr, Run The Jewels, etc., don't really have the same set-up as groups do. I think they have better longevity on average because they're only relying on one relationship being sustainable.
Conway, Benny and WSG; Griselda's blood ties will make them stand strong!
All of the Migos are related as well.
Just cause you’re related to someone doesn’t mean you won’t come to hate them. Speaking from experience
Benny the only one that's not trash. That's not gon end well
@@bjornofficial4688 Naa dude your tripping,Conway the best lyricist in Griselda bro,listen to “94 Ghost”,Conway spazzed on that beat bro,and Westside is also dope.
@@bjornofficial4688 You’re tripping on that for sure. Conway puts out nothing but solid music. From King To a God had nothing but bangers.
This applies to almost every group except the Beastie Boys
And De La Soul
Griselda tho
@@afiqharraz5518 Griselda hasn’t been an industry group long enough, anything can happen. Hate to be a nihilist but anything is possible in the industry
Wu Tang.
A Tribe Called Quest sticked together
Outkast, UGK, Three 6 Mafia, Wu-Tang Clan and NWA will forever be in my top 5 groups. Shouts out to 8Ball & MJG and the Lox
All legends. Timeless classics
What about tribe, what you think of them
@@petrified0035 most consistent group ever. Best of the best.
@@Solodolo84 I rightfully agree with you
Odd Future is in my top 10 of most influential Rap groups
If you watch Benny’s interview with Adam22, he maintains that Griselda is a label and not a group. Their releases are compilations, rather than group albums.
And that's true
I agree. But I'll never watch a adam22 interview. Dudes a joke.
The best lowkey n tight rap trio rn is Flatbush Zombies 🔥🔥
@Dilan Arellano love both groups
@Dilan Arellano I like both but i don’t really look at who’s popping I fw Flatbush and their discography way more, I respect your choice tho
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Facts! Flatbush Zombies do not get the attention they deserve at all
I've always felt hip hop collectives should really function like an anarchist affinity group. Individuals agreeing to come together as equals to accomplish a goal democratically. Once that goal is met the group is dismantled and only returned to if needed. Otherwise new formations can take place whenever they want. That way it's recognized as individuals coming together, not a unit of like-minded people when most of the time it's not, and they're free to go their separate ways whenever. They came together to create something and they'll go off alone to create something. When an artist joins an art collective they don't stop doing solo work. Just makes more sense to be practical and realistic and avoid having any leaders or anything like that.
I'm so glad you shouted out Pivot!!!!!!!
Bone Thugs-n-Harmony 4 Ever🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Blue from the Temptaions said it best "nobody's bigger than the group". I get it. Its always a point man or a shining star, but you got there with the group. Michael was a kid and asked to be in the group just to be with his brothers and sing with them. The world heard him and the rest is Jacksons history. Now Mike moved and did his own thing. The king of pop, still put on for his bros all the way to his death.
Some people have different visions outside the group, but when you step in the studio with us, its us. Lets work and create as us.
But🗣 “Ain’t Nobody come to see you Otis ! “
@@crypto2378 " they comin to see the Temptations" lol
@@Solodolo84 😭
Let’s be real cordae was never ybn 😂 just used them to get ahead
I been called it early on when he released his debut album that he was going to branch off of them. I didn't think it would be this early on though
@@JWill951 he was the only one actually rapping is how i see it...the other 2 used it as a get rich quick scheme lol
@@boknows8376 I agree. The others were mumble rappers to me. Cordae was the one with the real talent and has a lot of potential
@@JWill951 I feel like nahmir has talent but he just is lazy
@@malik2644 I think he did have talent at some point but not anymore. HelloYassine recently did some videos on him. I think he lost his talent cause of his laziness
I expect spillage village to last long, they dont seem to force things as much as others they just be doing their own thing and collab with each other a lot and then randomly drop an album every 3 or 4 years
“I address in a song called Big ASAP”
Says nothing.
Hhm is like the smartest analytics on the hip hop culture, I would actually consider writing a statistical research paper based on the videos I watch from this channel, very educative
Love the alliteration my guy, yall at HHM are wordsmiths!
Mobb Deep, The LOX, MOP, Wu Tang are some of the best groups that stayed unified despite whatever personal and petty beefs within their circle. Griselda is looking to be up there too.
Mobb Deep only a duo, wouldn’t consider it a crew
For every group that broke up there's one that never folded ego gets in the way and with us being in the social media age things are public knowledge. But there are plenty of groups who are still around and been rocking because they truly fuck with each other and aren't out for number one.
Hot take: The Outlawz were just a drink mixer for the liquor that was 2pac
They were more of a hype crew. Nobody remembers them besides Hit Em Up era.
@@shahnawazsooba7904 Yep. I learned that when I bought Still I Rise
@@whyhellotherestranger yuuup
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I think they could've had a great career as a group if Pac didn't die which just killed their hype and split the group. They are good on tracks like When We Ride or keep ya head up II
I'm glad the LOX are still united and relevant to this day!
I wouldn’t say relevant lol but yes they are still here
Rap crews usually do 2 albums then realize they get more money doing solo projects. N.W.A , G-unit, Westside Connection, D12, Slaughterhouse ....hell Black Hippy never even put out an album.
Fr I guess.
Who out of D12 benefitted from that outside of Em tho lol
Also D12 most likely quit bc Proof was killed
@@niek8877 they sold 8 million records world wide . Those guys split the d12 money evenly . The still have millions in the bank. Check their net worth. They still make money off the mix tapes they put out and they get Royalties from any D12 music. Not any Eminem solo music and less it’s a song featuring D12 like ‘one shot’. I mean he could’ve not done anything and not sign them and just let them sitting in Detroit with no money at all. That and Mr. Porter now has a career as being a producer. He is signing to both shady and aftermath as a producer. Yes if proof hadn’t of been killed we may have seen two more D12 hours by now but I don’t look at that as a fault of Eminem’s really.
@@bdr113080 yea true for Kon Artis (Mr. Porter) but I dont think Kuniva, Swifty and Bizarre benefited from going solo. I can ensure you that those 3 would rather make D12 albums
@@niek8877 I see what you’re saying but all I’m pointing out is that those guys did benefit from it. No they didn’t go on to have a successful solo careers as guys like Eminem, Game, or 50 But that’s how it is in every era of hip-hop. At least they are still in the rap game and music is putting food on their table. I mean there are really only two other alternatives. One Eminem doesn’t sign them at all and if he doesn’t do that then they don’t get to experience that was five or six years when they were on top of the world.. The other is that everyone in the group goes on to become Legends. That’s just not how it is. I think the D 12 guys are doing a lot better than the G-Unit guys are financially. MC Ren never went on to have the careers that Cube, Dre and Eazy had. Out of all the guys from Death Row era, only Dre and Snoop Maintain the same status they had back then as they do now. That doesn’t mean guys like Warren G, Daz, Nate Dogg , Trey Deee and Kurupt didn’t get their own blessings . I got Daz’s latest album and I love it. No he’s not going platinum but he owns his own music now and he can sell 20,000 copies and get more money than he would selling 500,000 on a major. Warren G still has a net worth of 10 million. Just because someone is in a stand out doesn’t mean they completely fallen off and are in the dirt and tricking in the streets and shit. And they wouldn’t be in that position if it wasn’t for the guys that became mega stars. I think it’s amazing 3 guys from that era (Em, 50, Game) Manage to stay relevant for 20 years. Go back and look at it at the track record for other labels. They don’t really hold up as well.
yes man, love these kinds of videos! keep up this kind of vids bro
It aint just hip hop, its damn near all of entertainment
Because everyone gotta shine.
Only 1 hip-hop crew from the Golden Age has survived with all of it's original members, over 30 years later. And that's that *Thuggish Ruggish Bone Bone Bone!*
Hell yeah !I was looking for Bone and lox... going through the comments with cmd+f(searching for bone). Notorious thugs is one of the best hiphop songs ever.
@@qbn1146 Agreed. 💯
Migos hasn't fallen off, their recent songs have also been hits and Culture 2 was a success. Migos doesn't deserve to be in this video.
The Lox are the only one who will never split. Loyalty and love.🙏
Exactly and we all know Jada the best in the group yet they will never fold. So when I see these excuses I just see l excuses because the Lox did solo projects too but they never folded as a group.
Thats fax, also cause Kiss and P combo is deadly and sync perfectly
@@malcolmboy21 Sheek has the best flow, Jada the best lyrics and Styles is kinda both combined.
Cypress Hill as well
Love how ya'll added the A$AP Levi's photo lol. I remember seeing the huge ass pic inside a store I was shopping in and just thinking wtf?
Some of the best music came from groups, but rest in peace to them all ✌🏾 on to the next chapter. FYI I miss some of those groups.
The lox lasted 20+ years together whether as the Lox or d-block and are still dropping consistent music
Right on time.
That Calvin Klein ad was something.
This is every group, not just rap groups.
The LOX is the only group that remained together without splitting up or having beef amongst each other. LOX are brotherhood
WuTang, Ruff Ryderz, The Roc and Diplomats, they all accomplished as much as possible as a group.
Yeah but they didn't last long.
@@shahnawazsooba7904 WuTang lasted all most a decade of consistent music and each artist went on to do their own thing as solo artists, idk what else they could have done. Ruff Ryderz and The Roc only lasted like 4 years but they made iconic music and one of the best concerts of all time and branched off to movies, clothing and definitely impacted the culture at the time. Imo these groups were as successful as possible.
@@Hypno_BPM Yeah I didn't notice that you mentioned Wu-Tang, my bad.
G Unit
Ruff Ryderz and The Roc were labels
This man is so well-spoken
'Why Rap Groups Aren't Built To Last
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Tell that to RTJ
They can work as long as artists don't have ridiculous egos
I guess the problem is, that they're all rappers, more or less occupying the same space and serving the same function in the group while simultaniously trying to stand out among their co-members. Other than for example a band, in which everybody is doing something different, being able to shine in their individual fields without getting in the way of each other ultimately resulting in a complementary collaborative product. Just my theory.
You might be right
Lead singers almost always branch out too so the first part of your statement is correct the latter not.
@@programSense Not only the singers. Several members may feel the need to explore different musical avenues and partner up with other musicians to do so. Sometimes that results in a split but mostly it's just side projects with the original band remaining intact.
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@@RÅNÇIÐ exactly. for example, phil collins was the drummer of genesis and peter gabriel was the lead singer. yet both men branched out, and it really worked out for phil collins going solo as vocalist as we all know by his hit songs. same thing with dave grohl. former drummer of nirvana, became lead singer and songwriter/founder of the foo fighters
Excellent production. These videos are appreciated.
EARTHGANG still strong 💪🏾 💯
Family don't break
Even families can get divided smh
Does ATCQ count? Because they had a really consistent discography, their 2016 album WGIFH...TY4YS was insane and showed that they still have the skill.
Well they did have an 18-year hiatus between albums, so they definitely count. But it's a testament to their chemistry that they were able to put out such an incredible comeback album, after all that time apart.
Do a video on the Flatbush zombies! The most underrated group/ producer of all time!!!!
facts bro. ong they underrated
Being in a group is like being in a relationship seriously
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I really just hope city morgue don't break up
most people in rap come from that hunger from being at the bottom... Thats, why it will never work cause one person or two, will always deviate from the rest in what they want there futures to be
I feel like groups (at least the name) do last, maybe they form a group in order to get big and branch out to their own concepts and ideas but the group name lasts and they keep it alive in order to eventually collab once again but I dont think that groups necessarily "die out"
The SOB X RBE breakup WILD lol
Who?
@@ashatronclouthier4587 lmao this mean
@@ashatronclouthier4587 the best rap group since shoreline mafia
Never heard them too
@@ashatronclouthier4587 lmao you probably listen to 69 or nf
You missed the other reasons like death of a member (Beastie Boys) and a record company only wanting to retain a single artist from the group (Busta Rhymes and LONS)
90 Million just to tour!?!? SHIIIID😏
Armand Hammer is one of the few rap groups (duo) that is passing the test of time.
Add Odd Future (OFWGKTA) collective to this...
I became a fan at the twilight of OF (mid-late 2014). By then Tyler already started distancing himself, Frank was off and Earl became more insular. But even in retrospect you could see it wasn’t built to last. The disparity among talents, relatability, subject matter and honestly, charisma, kept certain members from breaking through the way others did. Shit’s heartbreaking.
I became a fan watching Loiter Squad but it was obvious they were on the outs by the time that thing ended.
Yeap no more Oldie for us... So sad, lot of talent.
Odd Future split off mostly with wellness though. The only artist involved who had bad moods about anyone else was Hodgy and that got patched up a bit later. Tyler, Earl and Frank being put together to see who's the best rapper is hard to argue as well with how their paths split off from each other.
They were young kids having fun when they started out. But the industry decimated their group real quick. But that collective sparked a lot of amazing careers and talents with Frank Ocean, Earl Sweatshirt, The Internet. And of course Tyler, The Creator.
Griselda still going strong.. I think they'll hold the collective together for a longtime, hopefully
Actually Griselda is not a group, it's a record label & each member are different individuals. Go check out Benny interview on Bootleg
Rap groups don't last bcus of money and ego.when u have a group of individuals with different opinions and different thoughts on how they want to do business things fall apart.most groups always come in with the we a team ,we family etc.but soon as they start getting hot are have people whispering in their ear about how much more talented than the other group members are then there's a issue.and when money is involved adults tend to get tired of splitting money with other adults ,they want to go solo ,bcus of artistic differences etc.just too many people involved
It’s simple ... clash of ego members will eventually feel like they’re better Nd bigger than the group
Not to mention that some groups barely made projects together. For example, D12 only spawned 2 albums, same for Ice Cube's Westside Connection.
I forgot about Westside Connection. They were really good too
@@JWill951 That Bow Down joint was 🔥
It's either death or jealousy.
cypress hill is still succesful after 30 years
No
id really like for you to revisit this subject and touch more on the rap groups that HAVE lasted, wether it be older groups that are still playing vegas shows or newer ones like teamsesh that have been unwavering for almost 10 years now
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the lox and more recently the migos my favorite rap groups, still holding strong
I’d rather stay a solo artist.
I agree, and i also believe that as a solo artists it may be wise to for an "alliance" rather than a group. Something like how TDE had Q, Rock, Dot, and Soul do mad collab but still remained solo artists.
Me too
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Can’t forget the Boo Yaa Tribe ! Them niggas were built to last. Literally 💪😂
Do a video on crews reuniting
who gave yall that info about Dame Dash? That's not what spelled the end for Roc A Fella. That was way off
So what was it
Thats was a small peice of the larger puzzle.
Bone thugs and harmony ✊🔥🔥🔥
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That group is a prime example of dysfunction in a group haha. I love me some Bone tho
Not just Hip Hop. NO group is built to last. Especially the more popular they get. But I can definitely see if it's a more common thing in Hip Hop
90milli for a fugee tour wasn't bad at all...wish that would've happen
Man shout to The Lox. Only group i can think of that never broke up.
The answer: self preservation
Surprised OF wasn’t talked about more
No matter the genre i.e. Hip Hop/rap, R & B, Pop, Rock, Country groups never last due to the fact of one or two members of the group having aspirations of a solo career. Jus look at the history Temptations, Jackson 5, the Beatles, NSYNC, Rage Against The Machine, Destinys Child, Dru Hill etc
Migos real family members tho 😂😂😂 you don’t want those conversations at the thanksgiving and Christmas table.
man even The Jackson 5 broke up and they're literally family. People and careers just grow in their own way
Odd future was a legendary thing
ASAP MOB lords never worry will always be a solid project in my book. Like he says it represents a moment in time
Great video! Could you do one on Rap Duos one day?
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Laughs in Migos
But they are ACTUAL FAMILY. Most of these groups are mostly friends or company.
Brockhampton is a group I enjoy because it doesn't feel like there's a "main" guy. Wu Tang has RZA, OF has Tyler, ASAP has Rocky, etc. BH does have Kevin, but he feels more of a de facto leader more than him being the first artist I think of when I hear the name of the group.
Honestly, I prefer the efforts of the group more than the solo stuff. I like the one verse from a member or a small contribution from another rather than a whole solo project.
One person better then everyone else 🤷🏾♂️
Its the same deal with bands and why bands are going the way of the dodo. To much competing creativity and dominance.
Man I hope this doesn't happen to RTJ too, they are amazing.
Pro Era doing okay
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FYI, "fan the flames" means to make the situation worse, not calm it down.
Yep. And grievance is pronounced "gree- vuns" not "gree-vee-uns". Also "no love lost" is NOT a term of endearment- it is used to describe bitter enemies.
can you make a video on Missy Elliott's label and how the artist didn't really blow up.
Tyshaun you low key look like misdemeanor , Mista mina .
If they take these cautionary tales "in stride", it means they will not give them much thought. I believe you meant the opposite. Especially following with the "those who dont study history.." quote. To "Take it in stride" means to not let that particular thing have any effect on what you're currently doing. To brush it off, essentially. Regardless, thanks to this channel fot the great work \m/
Ever heard of the fensh rap group pnl? They're the top selling artists in france
Because everybody is after their own
Nothing is forever.