Couple of things: love the larger image of cards . Also, I thought that you create element at the end of the turn, thus my understanding is that you don’t have to use the existing dark element before creating another one. For example, you can create the new dark and then consume the previous one while the new dark is created at the end of your turn.
You are correct. Forgot we house ruled this to make the game harder. We also house ruled advantage because we hated the real rule. Thanks for calling that out, I have edited the video!
@@bayblade02gobeasts39 no the skill is considered a melee attach therefore you must stand next to the target. It’s already overpowered enough with the melee, let alone anywhere on the map
@@neuralnetgames6540 Oh man it sucked! It's the merchants level with the trees. My wife played the brute for the first time and we got slammed. The combo of low move and only being able to really help out every other turn sucked. I think our positioning sucked. All of the enemies ended up clumped together so I couldn't do much without exposing myself, which I pretty much had to do.
@@cooperbuss1297 Yeah it's one hard part about playing the Night Shroud, dealing with the move. And also there are definitely scenarios that do not play to the Night Shroud strengths! Keep at it and thanks for commenting!!
For the moon class, for the card spirits of the night, can you kill an enemy anywhere? What is the range? ( for the top action if you use the dark) Thx
VERY MINOR SPOILERS BELOW: Just unlocked this character. I’m by no means a great player, but we went through 6 scenarios yesterday and didn’t lose once. The other player even exhausted way early in one and I basically soloed the end for about 5-7 turns, stopping to waste a turn to grab a treasure chest too. Played the solo scenario this AM and crushed it first try without any difficulty whatsoever (definitely not my experience with other characters). What a beast of a character. I know all of the tier lists have him S tier and now I understand why - he reaches god tier with the right items . Delete button - short rest - delete button - stam potion - delete button - mana potion or elemental wand (I’m carrying 2 wands for element generation - one for dark and one other) - delete button - empowering talisman to get stam potion back - delete button ad infinitum - and the enemies can never target you because the character is always invisible (and I carry the cloak for backup). And now I have the solo scenario reward for the character- YIKES!!! The only drawback I see so far with him is somewhat limited mobility but it looks like the level 9 card helps with that too. I’m starting to dread retiring...
He is definitely very powerful! struggles against bosses and named monsters but outside of that he can really trivialize scenarios that have powerful elites! Thanks for commenting on your experience!
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork They are the bonus objective you draw for each scenario that awards you tick toward perks if you complete them. Two are related to XP gain, one requiring you to generate 7 or less the other 13 or more during the scenario.
SPOILERS: - - - - - - - Angel of Death: Target all ADJACENT enemies. consume dark: kill all normal targets instead. Its kill only adjacent enemies. No way you can "delete a room" with it. Actually really weak top and strong bottom.
hahah fair enough deleting a room is slightly hyperbolic, but it is still extremely strong. At level 9 you are probably on at least scenario level 4 and the average hp for normal monsters at that lvl is somewhere around 10. This can vary a bit depending on how much emphasis you put on shield but for this example 10 is fine. You can consistently kill 2 normal monsters, even with initial room placement, and you run into the room and insta-kill, even before they get a chance to act. This is worth 20+ dmg consistently and is 100% worth it, although not insanely overpowered. When you go in and use your hp, like I was talking about in the video, you allow the melee monsters to go aggro and surround you(shield up or something). Then play this card next turn and it is easy to get 3+ monsters, usually 4(4 player game) and that is worth 30-40 dmg on average and it is going to be super strong for you. Even in a 2 player game instantly killing a couple of enemies is amazing. Instantly killing 2 monsters or more is always going to be super strong, in any scenario! Thanks for commenting, more guides coming out soon so if you haven't already please go ahead and subscribe!
How does invisibility actually work? Hard to find this info, my understanding of it keeps changing. My group always played that if you go invisible then you stay invisible until your next turn which can be later in the round if you pick high initiative. I've played the digital version a bunch tho and there he can turn invisible and then attack stuff and stay invisible. But then start of next round he's visible again. So 2 things I didn't expect. Staying invisible during long rests works as expected at least.
The rules state you are invisible until the END of your next turn. So let's say you go invisible in your first move of Round 2. You will then be invisible until you finish your turn on Round 3. As such, it's recommended to go as early as possible on one round, then go as late as possible on the next so that ideally you're invisible for two sets of monster attacks.
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork Ye that much makes sense. Can't remember where I was with my understanding 11 months ago. In my group we never abuse invisibility to stall an entire room's initiative. That's breaking the game. Glad they're changing that in frosthaven.
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork what u mean? I'm talking about placing an invisible character into a door. I didn't say stalling the game. I said it stalls their initiative. And it's an unintended application of the rules. And to me, it breaks the game, just doesn't feel good to do. Not gonna say it's bad for people to abuse it, most people consider it as a legit strat I think. The devs just didn't think of it when they made the game. When you play the PC version of gloomhaven you can even do it. I feel much less bad using it there since I can't use any of my other house rules lol
That's a tough question and depends on party comps. Also stay tuned for my next series which will lay out build paths! Will be coming out in a few weeks!
Hey. I think the voidwarden is the ideal companion for this class. Obviously generates a great deal of dark. Can also help the shroud’s terrible positioning. Also gives strong attacks and generally has good utility. I also have to say…generally I think nightshroud is overrated for a few reasons. Certainly he has the strongest level one card in the game and a very strong level 6 card. But overall I think I can do more utility and overall damage actually for a typical four party team with sawbones, Sun or berserker. He’s often rated as S tier. I don’t agree. I think at best he’s A and you could make a case for B. I don’t hate the character, just not my fav. I will also plug sawbones here…my favorite character. He is awesome and completely underrated
Agree. Shroud is quite slow, a bit cumbersome with his combos, and something of a one trick pony. Its a cool theme and all but it has less overall value in most comps than saw, sun, or bolt
SPOILERS . . . I believe there is a male and a female character per race: - Orchid: female Spellweaver, male Doomstaker - Quatryl: female Soothsinger, male Tinkerer - Savvas: ¿female elementalist? ¿male Cragheart? - Human: female Scoundrel, male Sawbones - Vermling: ¿female Mindthief? ¿male Beast Tyrant? - Valrath: female Sunkeeper, male Quartermaster - Aesther: female Summoner, male Nightshroud - Inox: female Berserker, male Brute ... and Plagueherald which I believe is genderless
Yes, agree. Mindthief is female and TwoMinis is a male. Savvas are genderless and their reproduction is asexual according to lore, even if Cragheart looks like big strong male and TriForce more like female caster.
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Couple of things: love the larger image of cards . Also, I thought that you create element at the end of the turn, thus my understanding is that you don’t have to use the existing dark element before creating another one. For example, you can create the new dark and then consume the previous one while the new dark is created at the end of your turn.
That is how I understand the rule as well.
You are correct. Forgot we house ruled this to make the game harder. We also house ruled advantage because we hated the real rule. Thanks for calling that out, I have edited the video!
For the night class,spirit of the night,can you kill an enemy anywhere in the map? Pls respond
Thx
@@bayblade02gobeasts39 no the skill is considered a melee attach therefore you must stand next to the target. It’s already overpowered enough with the melee, let alone anywhere on the map
Been watching a couple of your videos, i like the details and it helped me alot thanks, subscribed
ty so much,i was having some problems to balance this new class in my game 😊
Nice vid man. Going to try NS out for the first time tonight!
Awesome! Let me know how it goes!
@@neuralnetgames6540 Oh man it sucked! It's the merchants level with the trees. My wife played the brute for the first time and we got slammed. The combo of low move and only being able to really help out every other turn sucked. I think our positioning sucked. All of the enemies ended up clumped together so I couldn't do much without exposing myself, which I pretty much had to do.
@@cooperbuss1297 Yeah it's one hard part about playing the Night Shroud, dealing with the move. And also there are definitely scenarios that do not play to the Night Shroud strengths! Keep at it and thanks for commenting!!
For the moon class, for the card spirits of the night, can you kill an enemy anywhere? What is the range? ( for the top action if you use the dark)
Thx
Thanks so much for doing this!
Of course!!
VERY MINOR SPOILERS BELOW:
Just unlocked this character. I’m by no means a great player, but we went through 6 scenarios yesterday and didn’t lose once. The other player even exhausted way early in one and I basically soloed the end for about 5-7 turns, stopping to waste a turn to grab a treasure chest too. Played the solo scenario this AM and crushed it first try without any difficulty whatsoever (definitely not my experience with other characters). What a beast of a character. I know all of the tier lists have him S tier and now I understand why - he reaches god tier with the right items . Delete button - short rest - delete button - stam potion - delete button - mana potion or elemental wand (I’m carrying 2 wands for element generation - one for dark and one other) - delete button - empowering talisman to get stam potion back - delete button ad infinitum - and the enemies can never target you because the character is always invisible (and I carry the cloak for backup). And now I have the solo scenario reward for the character- YIKES!!! The only drawback I see so far with him is somewhat limited mobility but it looks like the level 9 card helps with that too. I’m starting to dread retiring...
He is definitely very powerful! struggles against bosses and named monsters but outside of that he can really trivialize scenarios that have powerful elites! Thanks for commenting on your experience!
Why do Level 9 cards still have experience points on them when you're already maxed out?
For battle goal purpose.
Battle goal?
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork They are the bonus objective you draw for each scenario that awards you tick toward perks if you complete them. Two are related to XP gain, one requiring you to generate 7 or less the other 13 or more during the scenario.
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Angel of Death: Target all ADJACENT enemies. consume dark: kill all normal targets instead.
Its kill only adjacent enemies. No way you can "delete a room" with it. Actually really weak top and strong bottom.
hahah fair enough deleting a room is slightly hyperbolic, but it is still extremely strong. At level 9 you are probably on at least scenario level 4 and the average hp for normal monsters at that lvl is somewhere around 10. This can vary a bit depending on how much emphasis you put on shield but for this example 10 is fine. You can consistently kill 2 normal monsters, even with initial room placement, and you run into the room and insta-kill, even before they get a chance to act. This is worth 20+ dmg consistently and is 100% worth it, although not insanely overpowered. When you go in and use your hp, like I was talking about in the video, you allow the melee monsters to go aggro and surround you(shield up or something). Then play this card next turn and it is easy to get 3+ monsters, usually 4(4 player game) and that is worth 30-40 dmg on average and it is going to be super strong for you. Even in a 2 player game instantly killing a couple of enemies is amazing. Instantly killing 2 monsters or more is always going to be super strong, in any scenario! Thanks for commenting, more guides coming out soon so if you haven't already please go ahead and subscribe!
Also, anyone else reading this please go ahead and comment your thoughts! Is Angel of Death top strong or weak?
How does invisibility actually work?
Hard to find this info, my understanding of it keeps changing.
My group always played that if you go invisible then you stay invisible until your next turn which can be later in the round if you pick high initiative.
I've played the digital version a bunch tho and there he can turn invisible and then attack stuff and stay invisible. But then start of next round he's visible again.
So 2 things I didn't expect. Staying invisible during long rests works as expected at least.
The rules state you are invisible until the END of your next turn. So let's say you go invisible in your first move of Round 2. You will then be invisible until you finish your turn on Round 3. As such, it's recommended to go as early as possible on one round, then go as late as possible on the next so that ideally you're invisible for two sets of monster attacks.
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Ye that much makes sense.
Can't remember where I was with my understanding 11 months ago.
In my group we never abuse invisibility to stall an entire room's initiative. That's breaking the game.
Glad they're changing that in frosthaven.
I don't see how it's stalling a game though. It's how the character plays.
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what u mean?
I'm talking about placing an invisible character into a door.
I didn't say stalling the game. I said it stalls their initiative.
And it's an unintended application of the rules. And to me, it breaks the game, just doesn't feel good to do.
Not gonna say it's bad for people to abuse it, most people consider it as a legit strat I think. The devs just didn't think of it when they made the game.
When you play the PC version of gloomhaven you can even do it. I feel much less bad using it there since I can't use any of my other house rules lol
Curious, what cards did you pull out at each level?
That's a tough question and depends on party comps. Also stay tuned for my next series which will lay out build paths! Will be coming out in a few weeks!
Hey. I think the voidwarden is the ideal companion for this class. Obviously generates a great deal of dark. Can also help the shroud’s terrible positioning. Also gives strong attacks and generally has good utility. I also have to say…generally I think nightshroud is overrated for a few reasons. Certainly he has the strongest level one card in the game and a very strong level 6 card. But overall I think I can do more utility and overall damage actually for a typical four party team with sawbones, Sun or berserker. He’s often rated as S tier. I don’t agree. I think at best he’s A and you could make a case for B. I don’t hate the character, just not my fav. I will also plug sawbones here…my favorite character. He is awesome and completely underrated
Agree. Shroud is quite slow, a bit cumbersome with his combos, and something of a one trick pony. Its a cool theme and all but it has less overall value in most comps than saw, sun, or bolt
Gloomhaven digital says “he”
Just started this character, can confirm it’s a male. The back of the card says “himself”
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I believe there is a male and a female character per race:
- Orchid: female Spellweaver, male Doomstaker
- Quatryl: female Soothsinger, male Tinkerer
- Savvas: ¿female elementalist? ¿male Cragheart?
- Human: female Scoundrel, male Sawbones
- Vermling: ¿female Mindthief? ¿male Beast Tyrant?
- Valrath: female Sunkeeper, male Quartermaster
- Aesther: female Summoner, male Nightshroud
- Inox: female Berserker, male Brute
... and Plagueherald which I believe is genderless
Really appreciate the courtesy of you using spoiler tags, and thanks!
Yes, agree. Mindthief is female and TwoMinis is a male. Savvas are genderless and their reproduction is asexual according to lore, even if Cragheart looks like big strong male and TriForce more like female caster.
It's a he, lol.
Lol shit. I’m not good at this...
Is it really that big a deal though?
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork meh, sortaa... not REALLLLLY but for names and roleplayin i suppose.
Perhaps it's a they
lol maybe
he
Its a he, just so you know.