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Another View - Light vs Dark Skin
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Beyonce as the model for a major cosmetic company, only after they lightened her skin. OJ Simpson's photo was darkened to make him appear more sinister on the cover of Time Magazine. And then there is the issue of "intra-racial" discrimination - African Americans who discriminate against other African Americans because of the hue of their skin. On the final television episode of Another View, we'll talk about discrimination based on skin color with Dr. Cassandra Newby-Alexander, .history professor at NSU; Eleanor Earl, Asst. Professor of English and Cinema Studies with Hampton University; Regina Malveaux, Executive Director of the YWCA-SHR; and author and journalist Wil LaVeist. Plus we'll take a look back at the two and a half years we've been on the air. It's the farewell edition of Another View on television
Hopefully us black people can overcome the era of "light skin vs dark skin". At the end of the day we are all black.
Docile creatures .... Willie lynch syndrome thats what it is!!its sad ... these people are slow divide individuals with Willie lynch class. Skin color, old or young using ur ignorance against u.
@charbren 888 honestly I agree with 100% hopefully we at least get there in time.
@charbren 888 again you are correct sir! I am light skin but never felt that way I was always told "you're black" and that's it. But there are people specifically black people who are dark skin who can't accept light skins like me as being black. So I agree with you on everything you said.
+Ojay Liburd. No, all of them are black. Some of them are brown.
Tell the black man that
I think prejudice of dark skin is in Africa too. Because my mom has a friend that is from Africa & he said that my mom would be considered 'white' because she is light skin. Even in India light skin people are treated better. So it's not just in America. It's worldwide
This issue will never end...as long as we're humans.
My God we destroy each other
My 1st cousin is mixed and she's really darkskin. Our grandmother was gypsy and black and my skintone. Our grandfather was Haitian. I don't think you can call someone "pure" by the color of their skin.
+Vanita Young American blacks are hung up on skin tone and know little about actual culture which is what is most important.
"Pure" by the skin color means the natural color of the skin without bleaching it.
I'm dark skin and my grandmother is half white.
Simple
If you’re 85%+
👉🏽 African blood?
you are black American
if you are not?
👉🏽 you are mixed
@@og-greenmachine8623 well than most African Americans aren't African Americans..there mixed by your definition. I'm 76%...and I would presume that at the very least 1/3rd of black Americans are within my range if not most. There are no immediate white relatives within my lineage..its only until you go back to slavery that you find white ancestors in my family. You might want re access your presumption because you do also realize within the same family you could have a brother who 86% African and a sister who is 82% percent african...same parents. My mother is 77% and my uncle her brother is 82% he looks just like ice cube.
This video was posted 8 years ago. This is still a hot topic.
I feel the same way. I'm a light complected black woman but I think I'd be considered more medium complected. I use to wish I was either lighter or darker complected because I felt left out. We do need to embrace our beauty and like you said, love each other. However, we need to start by loving ourselves.
I'm white. And every person is beautiful. To everyone, I love your skin tones. African Americans, Asian Americans, Latin Americans, Irish Americans, Polish Americans, Indian American, Everyone still remains Beautiful. Even if i didn't say your, culture, You still have Beautiful skin. Be proud of it.
Bye
There are no brown skinned (neither light nor dark) people on this panel. This debate is seemingly primarily between the two extreme hues of light and black. I suppose that brown is, within the differing hues of black people's skin, the "safe and nonthreatening" color that requires no discussion?
The fat woman is brown skin you are color blind
My best friend is dark skinned & we'd always argue over was prettier. I thought she had better skin, she thought I did b/c I'm mixed wht/ light (almost wht) skin. I thought she was lucky to have her hair texture b/c she could change her hair daily if she wanted, but she thought I was lucky b/c my hair is long. We still get into the "No, you're gorgeous!" debates, but now we're more appreciative of our own looks.
There's no need for comments like " I had no idea you were....". We need to accept others for who they are. No one is superior or inferior . That's hogwash .
I concur Isabel1956.
Depends...
Its crazy, living in England, my mum is mixed race (black and white) and my dad is white and therefore i'm quite olive skinned with dark eyes and dark hair, and I experienced discrimination in primary school because I was darker than anyone else in the school... despite it saying 'Caucasian' on my birth certificate ...
I'm a light skin black woman and I look white. I think dark skin people are the most beautiful looking people on the earth. When I was a child, I wanted to be dark so so bad. All colors are beautiful... let's just love each other! Good video!
You "look white?" Okay 😂
She should have asked the light skinned women if they wished they were dark skinned.
If they are honest they will say “no.”
Light skin and dark skin crap affects men just as much as women. There is definitely a disparity between how light skinned and dark skinned men are viewed and people act like it does not exist. Most black women, and especially light skinned and biracial women, can OPENLY express their disdain for their light skinned counterparts and no one says anything. However a black man can't say he prefers light skinned women without a backlash. What is funny is that they will say a black man liking a light skinned female is self hating but a biracial light skinned female only liking dark skinned men is NOT self hating?
+Jah Selector AKA Jason Thompson. True
Sooooo true.
Im mexican though, so...I dont think its self hate that I like really dark men...just preferance
Savage Aristocracy we'll you don't count.
Savage Aristocracy bitch
Selector Jah You make a great point and it is true. Well said.
I am an attractive darker skin man and I love to hear that from lighter skin blacks. It's important that we educate others, others being those who are unaware by nourishing, and loving ourselves. I think lighter skin blacks are so beautiful just like me. It's funny because alot of my female friends these days and for sometime now have been fair skin. We don't even notice that because we feel each other's spirit. Amen
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We're not going to overcome this anytime soon. I'm dark, and when I was a teenager, girls never even looked twice at me. I never had a girlfriend or even a date throughout high school. That was 30 years ago. My grandparents generation dealt with the colorism issue 70 to 80 years ago, and here we are today still discussing the same dumb sh%t. Dark-skinned blacks are always going to be treated as "less than".
guest it’s a good thing because u become a family man not a player. Keeps money in your pocket.
We got to protect our fully Melenated beauties. We should be holding them in High Esteem. Without our mahagony, ebony, chocolate sis bloodline will be gone. Your Melenin is precious.
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Ngl I feel like it depends on how dark you are like if you were brown skinish it wasn’t that bad
im a medium skintone. im about 1/2 shade darker than the tanned adrienne bailon, sum call me light and sum call me dark. i believe that darkskinned people hav such a rich skintone and their features are much more defined. thats y most black models are exotic and dark like emanuela de paula, leila lopes, alek wec, fatima etc. u can b beautiful despite ur color tho. i just dont understand y people put light skin on a pedestal
the host has a fantastic speaking voice. very well educated.
I noticed this too... wonderful articulate clear speakers! Very educated..no "ums" no "ahs"
I get called light and dark, so I don’t even know what complexion group I fall in. Plus, I have skin undertones. I am also constantly accused of bleaching my skin, but I get dark in the Summer and light in the Winter. I get these questions a lot from a lot of grown women.
some women just need to let it go !! I mean do you really build your self-estime on whoever is on the cover of a magazine "Beyoncé" ? She is a beautiful woman but she ain't no standard sorry. Be strong and confident individual you are beautiful in your own way point blank.
It's alive and thriving in Georgia. I was shocked by the comments my neighbor made about my skin color (I happen to be lighter skinned) to my face. Shocked because I'm from NY, where this just doesn't happen. But it is clearly relative, I don't think of myself as "light skinned," but I have a sister that is, to me, light skinned and she has had many problems related to skin color.
Curious to know what your neighbour said. I know I'm late! 😄
Many brown skinned and chocolate Black men are showing a preference for women who are lighter or white.Many Black women are showing a preference for chocolate men,as well as white women showing the same preference if dating Black men.In the hip hop videos,the lighter Black women are prominent.I believe most of these colorism biases in the U.S. are generated by certain brown and chocolate Black men who are not attracted to women who are the complexion of their mothers and sisters.Chocolate women who want men who are the complexion of their fathers feel that rejection from men who share their complexion.Lighter black women who have faced discrimination sometimes want their children to be darker so they won't face the same, that's why they sometimes prefer darker men than themselves.
My goodness!! Sir, you hit the nail on the head with your conclusion. I grew up in a household with 3 black men ,all darker than myself who only value racially ambiguous looking black women or non-black women. My 2 brothers, and my stepfather( my mother is much lighter and I don't mean just brown skinned, but light). This instilled a feeling of rejection from a really young age. I am 28 still carrying these feeling around. I don't feel good enough, pretty enough, feminine enough. Your insight on this was really presented well.
It is the brain that matters to me
Your right dark skin women have it hard. It's funny because there was a time when dark skin men like myself caught hell. However, that seems to have dwindled.
Ooh, that girl is SO CHOCOLATE!!🥰🥰 YES lord my Goodness!!!🤩
What makes it worse its the people within our own community. White people its more expected but not from us.We use negative stigmas against each other due to skin color and it has to stop.We need to stop perpetuating colorism on all angles. Example would be if you're a light skin woman or man, you appear to have more class than a darker skin man or woman.
This is my first time seeing this show. It was really informative. As a black woman I could never understand the dark vs. light issue we have. It's very stupid imo.
An interesting and informative conversation. As a society, America has a loooong way to go to recognize how it promotes and sustains racism. Within the black American communities there is a great deal of dysfunction; most of it is centered around racism and its concomitant burdens. Colorism is an off-shoot of racism, internalized by the black community. This is particularly painful because it is self-inflicted pain that is too often NOT recognized.
You too brother. We walk the same path in life. That of which is blessed and not forgotten.
I'm white and I think that the very dark skin that some Africans, Melanesians, and eastern Indians have is beautiful. I think a lot of these people make a mistake by trying to lighten their skin. I had a co-worker from Africa with very dark skin, who had a talent for makeup. She never attempted to make herself look lighter. Instead, she accented her dark skin with a lot of medium and dark reds for lip gloss and it gave a very nice ebony and mahogany look.
Imagine living in a place tht doesn’t have a foundation shade past tawny or caramel and you’re mocha or when you see ppl who are supposed to look like be lightened in the media as if being dark is ugly it’s easy to speak on the effects without understanding the cause hearing don’t be outside too long or ur pretty for a dark skin girl as if you’re some kind of outlier the beauty industry is drenched in colorism it’ll make you do some wild shit
Thank you! I have a Biology Degree and I am so sick of the ignorant, uninformed things people say concerning race and genetics. It is so stupid!! Race is a myth, it is all about familial relationships. People from similar geographic regions are more closely related historically!! I really don't understand how these ridiculous ideologies continue to persist!
I have...It's something everyone should know about and understand that we are doing it to ourselves. Stop the viscious cycle...
As an African American male I can validate the idea that their are unwritten rules and laws esp. in the South. I have overheard many of my students suggest that they would not date dark skinned boys or girls becuase they were not beautiful. Its sad but we have to change the way that we think.
I actually sat through this whole thing. It's a shame the show was canceled. :(
Nooooooo, not the babies!!! That part with the babies hurt me, man
I hate to quote Lady Gaga, but
"You were born this way!"
Should’ve listened to your first mind
Those two women are multiracial not black
dude u don't have to be light skin to be mixed, I'm dark skin & i'm mixed. Dude you need help
Yeah ur mixed with blueish green eyes
You are correct some bi racial folks are darker brown.
Mixed Latina. We I'm not 100% African, and I am lighter but I have still experienced racism and experienced negative stereotypes. So should I be excluded?
Am so sorry that this production ended...am very pleased with this particular piece. Will hope to see some additional uploads on this channel concerning topics like this. :))
They also lightened the picture of Tonya Harding skin on the cover of some magazine after she was a suspect as a conspirator in the Nancy Kerrigan attack. just months before and it seems no one noticed.
I am writing a thesis on the controversy of light vs. dark skin within the Black community. May I use this video for my documentary?
Colorism, intra-racial discrimination, and etc., lets call it what it is "white supremacy' which equal racism. Read the works of Neely Fuller, and the late Dr. Frances Cress Welsing to get a clear understanding.
I noticed that he told his daughter that her beauty is on the inside, which proves that he as a grown black man, still haven't accepted darker skin as beautiful. I also noticed the women in the group didn't particularly like his comments.
Tall men are looked at as dominant and you will see tall men in the upper management or higher rank in the military and its very sad! as for the light skin issue I remember my grand mother saying how beautiful my cousins kids were cuz they were soooooo white white! and eyes blue blue! and Im not even that dark but a kid will never forget comments like that and it damages your view of reality!
We are washing out our laundry. Am dark skin with a light skin daughter and one carmel another brown
nooooooooooooooo why the heck did they stop doing this?? only just found this only to realise its the last one from a year ago!! damn its so interesting BRING IT BAACK
Africans are light without mixture
lie.
Vanessa Smith so how do you explain dark black Africans?
@@rickeyslake it's TRUE. My bf is dark skin and his mom was born in Nigeria and she is very light skin. And so are his siblings. It's quite common even in hot Africa
light skin isnt even common in america, let alone africa.
@@rickeyslake it doesn't have to be common or not. It exists and it's starting to exist alot more. Nothing we can do about it.
I have brown skin and I have a certain skin condition that if I i was light skinned or white I would look like a blotchy mess. I love the skin I'm in. God knew exactly what he was doing when he blessed me with the color brown.
I actually wrote about this topic for my college entrance essay so it was wonderful hearing adults discuss a topic that many shy away from. Amazing forum!
it's so sad that this show is over :(
Really?
Beauty is skin deep, it's not in the color of the skin but from within. Thank you for an empowering talk.
I am Eastern European (white)... I find this show fascinating!... We didn't have Slave trades etc in Eastern Europe... will someone please explain to me if this is how African Blacks think too?... or is this more of an African American (descendants of the American slaves?)... very interesting... thank-you!
I disagree with you. Many countries of Africa were colonized by Europeans; therefore, I'm sure that many Africans have adopted Eurocentic values and images of beauty. I've heard several of my African friends talk negatively about their nappy hair texture and how African men "love" light-skinned women. Therefore, this issue affects all peoples of African descent within the African Diaspora. This is not just an "African-American issue."
And no one would be saying shit I those biracial s were dark skinned with courser hair so please.... They'd probably still call them mixed but since they look more Afro centric they wouldn't exclude them
Wonderful show!
Growing up in the town I lived if you were not white you were black regardless of what color brown you were. As a light skin African American Women I have received so many negative and back handed comments from darker African American Women and only from those people. It's always amazing to me when darker women act like they are the only ones who experience negativity because of there color. Whenever I start working at a new place and I am around darker AA women I ALWAYS get negative comments.
Samantha Monique yeah as a biracial, I’ve experienced the same thing. But they feel that we can’t experience colorism.
The rabbit proof fence was an amazing film, thanks for mentioning it on here.
The concept of "identity" is one that is almost deliberately glossed over by the tenacious "obsession" with skin colour in communities where there is clearly white heritage in a significant proportion of the population that is denied for political and social reasons. You don't have a lighter complexion because the "stork" was white, for heaven's sakes.
The reality is African Americans of very mixed heritage are amongst the most ardent practitioners of racism in their own communities.
No they're not. You've never lived in a latin American country obviously.
my mum is dark black and my dad is brown, and im light-skin. your wrong.
too bad these issues will NEVER end
I have be4en called red bone, yellow banana, miss lily white, pale face, etc.. I remember sitting on the front porch in the sun trying tio get a tan after rubbing butter all over my body but I just turned red. I guess my story is a little different, I always wanted to be dark skinned.
Say it loud, I’m black and I’m proud!
negro? ok
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Wow, such a great clip!
No, offense the two light skin woman look bi-racial not black..they shouldnt be able to speak on the skin color issue in the black community
After all she said about the militancy and being a revolutionary, the man next to her comments about "having the Afro pic" to top it off. Then she says, no, "that's too thuggy" . . . I wore an Afro much of my young life and couldn't make a pic stay in my hair b/c my hair was too wiry and parted too easy. But I thought it was cool, even still.
I love the colour of my skin - the colour my mother and father gave me - inter racial discrimination is alive and well within my own people
They call it colorism.
Willie lynch
EVERYONE ONE SHUT UP AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER. WE WILL NEVER GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
Oh yes there is an issue with dark skin women being jealous towards light skin women. I'm biracial and several dark skin women hate on me because of me being light skin, straight A student through my Master's degree and holding down a 4.0 in my doctoral program. I feel that they should be comfortable in their own skin and work on their own insecurities. We are all beautiful black women and we come in many beautiful shades. Get over it and work on you.
this program was wonderful i wish there were more like it. i just found your channel. sorry that this was your last show.
why did they get rid of this show?
Probably because it resonates with truth!
***** It's sad how people can't handle the truth....
***** Still don't understand why Black people do this. I know we're not past racialism but this staggering ignorance is unbelievable coming from a White person. I won't say it's the media because clearly the media isn't a single body but the beauty industry should incorporate all races. Obviously you don't reject light skinned women but just make it equal. As far as the experiment I must be earnest in saying that saying non of the children are more intelligent should have been an option. Children are highly susceptible to only picking what's displayed and not voicing an inner notion that all of them are wrong. I believe that type cognitive reasoning has positive correlation with age so it should be an explicit option. I honestly think the blame lies with the ones to exhibit this racial bias as well as parenting (even though parents are also subjected to these comments). Education is a problem as athletics has too much emphasis for Blacks. Why are Black scientists overshadowed by their Black athletic counterparts? How can one achieve without subjugation to role-models? Neil deGrasse Tyson has to me one of my favourite scientific communicators and astrophysicists more should aim to be the next Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Well said! Thanx.
@lilshopohorrors I completely agree. People, particularly us youth, need to start reading more.
Thats very nice of you, Thank you. But i think in all actuality You are truly Human for understanding how i Feel, and Responding in a "like" notion. So you and i Have life in common. Bless you friend. And thank you for your comment.
Being a good parent " mother and/or father" is to teach your children to look beyond skincolor, and to look at the person behind that skincolor.
If you are not able to look beyond the skin color than your parents have failed raising you. unfortanatlly there are many shallow people in the " black community" who only look at skincolor and give their views on to their children. Your skincolor doesn't define you, your innerbeauty defines you.
great program, thanks
That woman is mixed! and besides in order to have a true debate on this issue with black America you would need a larger panel with at least a few more people and 2 black men in all of our color hues in my opinion!
+happystar888 Absolutely! in order for black America to have real' round table discussions, concerning our issues and concerns ' if they are to be truly ' meaningful' you must include the entire color spectrum! and both genders need to be of equal number. otherwise in my opinion , it makes the discussion a joke.
They didn't even cobsider a lighrt skinned bm like wow.
This shit only still goes on in my black community. I'm an average shade brown, somewhere in the middle I guess, not really light and not really dark. But I have seen blacks of ALL shades that are beautiful. This is ridiculous. I have never had to experience discrimination based on colorism, thank God. But I think it's more shameful that I get more compliments from whites about my skin and natural hair than blacks.
I am sure these light skin blacks have some mix ancestry from other ethnic people.
@Edwina Hatcher You say some very ignorant and hateful comments. You must hate your skin complexion ( whatever it is) and you have hatred against light skinned women. Sad. White folks hate us all , light/ dark. Google the Willie Lynch letter and read it. If you still have hate/ envy ..you need to seek counseling.
I'm 12 and people tell me that all the time. But I noticed that I'm Nigerian and if they think there is something wrong with me I don't care. I'm proud to be true black.
So every time I walk down the street, I subconciously instill fear into the hearts of everyone I pass by?
Cool.
yes
love to hear positivity!
Well said ma'am.
THE DARKER THE FLESH THE DEEPER THE ROOTS!! ITS ALL LOVE BABY :) CAN YOU DIG IT?!?!?!
The Hampton Roads region is so underrated......lots of potential.
i have a kenyan friend who went throgh the same thing. i know what you mean. its bullshit. she's the most beautiful person i know. all the best to you
imagine ur light skin friend dark, wud they stil look nice? according 2 some people they wouldn't look nice anymore(basically saying ther skin colour made them look pretty not ther features), i hav a pretty light skin friend but her features r not all that, she has a big nose& bushy eyesbrows but she still gets reception from boys because shes light. some dark girl have nice features imagine them light, people wil love them so its because of complexion, & people favouring light skin,e.g lilwayne
I say that I'm black. Never call myself African American because the term is really dumb. Not everyone comes from Africa. You can be white and be from Africa though, so would they still be considered African American if they came over to America? I hate the labels. It's all about labeling people these days. Like my mom says though, "You aren't black, black is the color of the streets, the roads, coal." But I still consider myself as black. People think that I'm mixed, and a lot of people think that I'm Puerto Rican or Dominican. I don't even really claim anything though, I am just simply me. I am Anesha, that's the only thing that I'll be labeled by is the name that my mother gave me.
Very smart perspective. Black is universal and does not applying to 1 diaspore of the planet. The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad says that the best term to use to define our people is the black man, and the black woman. out of us every nation of people came forth. if you have a chance please research, Nation of Islam and set yourself on a journey for knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. sincerely your brother and friend.
+Nesha Britwood If you were Puerto Rican or Dominican you would still be of African decent because most of them are. That is why they are called Afro/Latin or Latina. Your mother is right black is a color though I wouldn't be so rude as to call you stupid for how you choose to self Identify. African means of African decent. The fact of the matter is there are few white people in Africa. Africa is a whole continent and some of your people originate from there.
well said pattydole!
I like the term African American, my existence began in Africa but I was born in America. I do say, say it loud, I’m black and I’m proud.
his sons might talk about the red bone thing because that's who he chose. He's leading by example.
amen to that
subscribed! keep up the good work
That is not true. That would be like me saying all dark skinned women are hateful and that is far from the truth as well. You shouldn't judge a person because of their skin tone, but on how they truly are as a person. God made all of us and He is no respecter of persons...meaning He doesn't see our color just what is in our hearts, So with that being said we need to check ourselves on this issue and embrace each other instead of using it as a source of contention and division. It doesn't help us
You can tell this is old because they hadn't coined the term ' Colorism' yet 🍵😅
Thank you very much. That is kind of you and is actually better than a "like" click.
No one addresses the light skin "pretty boy" lable
this must be a joke! you just have 2 black women on here! I'm gone.
2 dark women yes,black no ...you do realize that African American is a culture right not a look just like Asian,European,African ,etc you don't have to look a certain way to be something society will place you in categories but let society be society don't get brainwashed not all people from a certain place look alike so what is looking european or african or asian?looking Human we are all on earth we are all related yes there are different cultures looks and nationalities but we originate from one place here on earth hun
virtuous ignorant people love separation and division therefore they love labels:social constructs that tell you we as humans are more different than we are similar but really it's the other ay around we are way more similar than we are different.
Wow.
@Edwina Hatcher What women next to the white woman?I see a white man next to her? What these black women aren't beautiful because they of darker complexion? If so then you are the perpetuator of colorism. Why be envy of your sistahs?
William Brown no she’s not beautiful because she isn’t beautiful. She is not physically attractive. And that is ok. She is still a living human worthy of common courtesy and earning respect. Feminism should attack women’s association of self value with their sexual desirability, rather than redefining beauty
I'm black and proud but by no means would I be ashamed if I were any other race. We are all beautiful.
No
the lady at 10:36 broke my heart :-(
there ares some people in our"community" that need to hang their heads in shame...
I don’t kare that the bottom of my face is different than my body