Yeah as a darkskin person it’s never been advantageous to be overly assertive. Ppl will automatically assume you’re aggressive. This is why I just chill & don’t say much.
23:00 Colorism goes way beyond slavery. Groups who were never enslaved still experience the same issues of colorism. Its more of a colorism/white supremacy issue.
Whites would give better stuff to "family" during slavery...hence the colorism The one in blue, looks black passing If he didnt say he was biracial, I wouldn't have known. Like bob Marley
Music videos are the BANE OF MY Existence. Growing up in the 90s being in the music industry made me super insecure. All the music videos I was in.....they made some none black girl of color the main character. And they were always directing them to act like a black girl. So, instead of just casting me as the main girl or the love interest they'd cast an asian and tell me to show her how black girls act when they're angry. I was ask on two different occasions to do this I did it. ..but it pissed me off and I held it in I wasn't even necessarily the typical attitude having black girl until I realized that was what was expected of me. I stopped trying to do music videos and being a model by 2000 because it never changed. All the non black women of color were paid more had more positive experiences with videos. Us brown and dark skinned girls maybe got paid 50 to 200 if we got paid at all. And all of us felt some type of way and our energy was drained by the end of the shoot. I love that you all bought up the fact that people can be so dismissive of the plight of dark skinned people when it pertains to calling out colorism.
Now they know how it feels when they say" You cute to be a dark skin girl or I don't date dark skin to black females, it doesn't feels so good when its being said to them.
Right! This is exactly what Chrissie be talking about black women have experienced this the most our beauty is non stop attacked not only by white ppl but our own people everyone else including our men are more glorified as sexy were the least desirable 🤷🏾♀️
I knew nothing about colourism until I started using Social Media. I am also from the UK and even though colorism is an issue, it’s no way as bad as the US.
Jim Crowe still working on us and its beyond annoyingggg. To some ppl im brownskin, i know for a fact im darkskin but they only say it because of my features.
twistedblktrekie well depending on the situation I’m darkskin, and if im the only “brownskin” i get treated like a darkskin if that makes since 🙃 idk how to explain it. But i think ur right tho, cause me n my friend was bout to be in a video, they only wanted lightskin girls. They didnt take anytime to pick me. Nut they thought long n hard a bout her (shes darker) n they still put us both in the background.
The fact is black born in America are the descendants of the Biblical Israelites, we’re not African . We are the Children of Israel . Lastly, I thank the God of Israel I’m a dark guy and I never knew it was a difference until RUclips 2017
Not to be disrespectful or anything but why do you feel like you know for a fact? Are you basing it off of makeup shade or how other women of your complexion are treated? It’s always interesting to see how people identify themselves and how others identify them. I am often called light skinned by darker people but I feel like I’m brown
This is the first time I have seen men of my creed actually discuss this fucking topic smh. I wish more straight & lgbt black men would have these conversations, men need to speak up on the conversation. straight black men need to really step up and say something MORE OFTEN AND SPEAK UP IN THE SAME MANNER BLACK WOMEN DO!!!!!
Thank you guys for having this conversation. There's so many layers to unpack and not enough time but you guys definitely made sine really good points. I wish I was there to add my 2cents. From me (a dar skin man) to all of you, you're beautiful and wear your blackness like true Kings! 👑👑👑👑👑 #RealContent #AllBlackIsBeautiful #FuckColorism #UnitedWeStand
"Colorism" is a base precognitive instinct for validation not dissimilar to prejudice (operant conditioning). with a dose of "confirmation bias" this can be lethal when used as a tool to present oneself and interact with society from a sense of over-self importance. It's a mental disorder that depends on adult role play learned from societal conditioning, It's embarrassing how tongue and cheek this issue has become and only further emphasises that even though human beings believe themselves to be more intelligent than our primate ancestors we're obviously not. Learn to validate yourself by the content of your character (I know- a novel idea). Sometimes it feels like I live in a world of mental midgets.. no offense to anyone.
im black and im lighter than some black people in my family or in the black community but that dont make me white or mixed my parents are black their family is black on both sides and I always get mixed cause of how light I am in school growing up ive been mistreated like a black person , but I was light skin I was the only light skin that was lighter than everyone in my class the rest of them were dark skin they also teased or made fun of me saying I wasn't black enough cause im lighter I dont know what they were thinking but I know im black im no where white or dont look white or mixed so I guess that was colorist or jealousy just cause im lighter dont mean im not black enough
Are you bragging or complaining? Because I’m confused as to what point you are making? It’s just confusing and pointless. I’m probably lighter than you and most Blacks… but I just think it’s dumb to point it out to others since it really doesn’t matter. Your personality and how you treat others matters most.
@@Alexandria.Washington that comment was old I made that comment when I was being bullied at school cause I was wondering why the black kids that looked like me were picking on me one girl said I wasn’t black enough so that’s why I made that comment I am not a racist or prejudice type of person I was just wondering why some of the black kids were picking on me
@@Alexandria.Washington I would never try to talk bad about black people I’m not that type of person what I was trying to say was that I was told I wasn’t black enough like I said this girl said to me that I’m not black enough that’s why I made that comment I was being bullied at the time
Love adults sitting down and just having a real conversation on topics that has real meaning love it🎉
Yeah as a darkskin person it’s never been advantageous to be overly assertive. Ppl will automatically assume you’re aggressive. This is why I just chill & don’t say much.
Refreshing to see men address this issue openly and honestly. Good discussion.
THANK YOU
23:00 Colorism goes way beyond slavery. Groups who were never enslaved still experience the same issues of colorism. Its more of a colorism/white supremacy issue.
Whites would give better stuff to "family" during slavery...hence the colorism
The one in blue, looks black passing
If he didnt say he was biracial, I wouldn't have known.
Like bob Marley
Black, Latin, Asian, and any other country that has brown skin have this issue. Just sad.
INDEED!
Exactly
Music videos are the BANE OF MY Existence. Growing up in the 90s being in the music industry made me super insecure. All the music videos I was in.....they made some none black girl of color the main character. And they were always directing them to act like a black girl. So, instead of just casting me as the main girl or the love interest they'd cast an asian and tell me to show her how black girls act when they're angry. I was ask on two different occasions to do this
I did it.
..but it pissed me off and I held it in
I wasn't even necessarily the typical attitude having black girl until I realized that was what was expected of me. I stopped trying to do music videos and being a model by 2000 because it never changed. All the non black women of color were paid more had more positive experiences with videos. Us brown and dark skinned girls maybe got paid 50 to 200 if we got paid at all. And all of us felt some type of way and our energy was drained by the end of the shoot.
I love that you all bought up the fact that people can be so dismissive of the plight of dark skinned people when it pertains to calling out colorism.
Now they know how it feels when they say" You cute to be a dark skin girl or I don't date dark skin to black females, it doesn't feels so good when its being said to them.
Right! This is exactly what Chrissie be talking about black women have experienced this the most our beauty is non stop attacked not only by white ppl but our own people everyone else including our men are more glorified as sexy were the least desirable 🤷🏾♀️
Great conversation, this deserves more views 👍
Can I see more black man address this 😊
I knew nothing about colourism until I started using Social Media. I am also from the UK and even though colorism is an issue, it’s no way as bad as the US.
Great conversation
Jim Crowe still working on us and its beyond annoyingggg.
To some ppl im brownskin, i know for a fact im darkskin but they only say it because of my features.
twistedblktrekie well depending on the situation I’m darkskin, and if im the only “brownskin” i get treated like a darkskin if that makes since 🙃 idk how to explain it.
But i think ur right tho, cause me n my friend was bout to be in a video, they only wanted lightskin girls. They didnt take anytime to pick me. Nut they thought long n hard a bout her (shes darker) n they still put us both in the background.
The fact is black born in America are the descendants of the Biblical Israelites, we’re not African . We are the Children of Israel .
Lastly, I thank the God of Israel I’m a dark guy and I never knew it was a difference until RUclips 2017
Not to be disrespectful or anything but why do you feel like you know for a fact? Are you basing it off of makeup shade or how other women of your complexion are treated? It’s always interesting to see how people identify themselves and how others identify them. I am often called light skinned by darker people but I feel like I’m brown
These some handsome men!!
This is the first time I have seen men of my creed actually discuss this fucking topic smh. I wish more straight & lgbt black men would have these conversations, men need to speak up on the conversation. straight black men need to really step up and say something MORE OFTEN AND SPEAK UP IN THE SAME MANNER BLACK WOMEN DO!!!!!
So when do we make the conscious decision the stop it! We all know colorism is ridiculous but yet it’s not going anywhere
Thank you guys for having this conversation. There's so many layers to unpack and not enough time but you guys definitely made sine really good points. I wish I was there to add my 2cents. From me (a dar skin man) to all of you, you're beautiful and wear your blackness like true Kings! 👑👑👑👑👑 #RealContent #AllBlackIsBeautiful #FuckColorism #UnitedWeStand
Colorism runs through several races. Asian, black and white. Psychological, archetypal and subconscious.
every basket ball wives reunion shauni and the light skin girls are on one couch Jennifer Williams and the darker girls are on a separate couch
"Colorism" is a base precognitive instinct for validation not dissimilar to prejudice (operant conditioning). with a dose of "confirmation bias" this can be lethal when used as a tool to present oneself and interact with society from a sense of over-self importance. It's a mental disorder that depends on adult role play learned from societal conditioning, It's embarrassing how tongue and cheek this issue has become and only further emphasises that even though human beings believe themselves to be more intelligent than our primate ancestors we're obviously not. Learn to validate yourself by the content of your character (I know- a novel idea). Sometimes it feels like I live in a world of mental midgets.. no offense to anyone.
Unfortunately, character is not something visual !
2:04 I loveeee what she said
I'm late lol,i really enjoyed this.
The sound sucks.
Really important tell people where from
im black and im lighter than some black people in my family or in the black community but that dont make me white or mixed my parents are black their family is black on both sides and I always get mixed cause of how light I am in school growing up ive been mistreated like a black person , but I was light skin I was the only light skin that was lighter than everyone in my class the rest of them were dark skin they also teased or made fun of me saying I wasn't black enough cause im lighter I dont know what they were thinking but I know im black im no where white or dont look white or mixed so I guess that was colorist or jealousy just cause im lighter dont mean im not black enough
Are you bragging or complaining? Because I’m confused as to what point you are making? It’s just confusing and pointless. I’m probably lighter than you and most Blacks… but I just think it’s dumb to point it out to others since it really doesn’t matter. Your personality and how you treat others matters most.
@@Alexandria.Washington that comment was old I made that comment when I was being bullied at school cause I was wondering why the black kids that looked like me were picking on me one girl said I wasn’t black enough so that’s why I made that comment I am not a racist or prejudice type of person I was just wondering why some of the black kids were picking on me
@@Alexandria.Washington I would never try to talk bad about black people I’m not that type of person what I was trying to say was that I was told I wasn’t black enough like I said this girl said to me that I’m not black enough that’s why I made that comment I was being bullied at the time
truth
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