"Regent" - Monarchy, Misogyny and Mommy Issues - HOTD Season 2 Episode 5 Review 🐉
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- I am now a Jace/Aemond shipper, their child would serve heretofore unforeseen levels of face.
00:00 - It's just meat
02:39 - The Smallfolk
04:53 - THE PATRIARCHY
09:17 - Everybody knows, right?
14:11 - RIP Sigmund Freud, you would have loved Targaryens
17:32 - King me
20:50 - Worthy
23:16 - Random notes
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I’m curious if this might incentivize Aegon to have another son if only to ensure that Aemond won’t be in power forever.
There's a chance Helaena might already be pregnant. Like maybe after Aegon was crowned he decided he needed more heirs and some attempts were made(idk what to call it if it's sex for political reasons that neither party really wants).
@@QuinnFirstOfHerName that is also true but either way I would so sad for Heleana because now she has to go through pregnancy in the midst of grieving for her son.
(probably still marital grape but it's more complicated as it was previously marital grape for both of them, if that makes sense)
I agree with most of this but Aemond becoming regent would have happened even if Jaehaerys was alive bc regent means he is the ruler until Aegon is better or, if Aegon doesn’t make it, until Jaehaerys is 18.
I would pair a Chateauneuf du pape with Meleys. They have a peppery finish that I believe would pair rather nicely with fire-made-flesh.
Team Green, this was good filler episode that FINALLY develop the children of daemon and rhaenyra more. I still don’t understand y Alicent thinks she should be in charge during war times when all she wanted has been no violence and restraint.
Team Black keeps taking L... they not won a single battle won, lost two dragons, vale doesn’t want to send their armies so far because rhaenyra gave them two baby dragons as a defense lol, daemon the great war general cannot muster an army because he thought by doing the same thing that he did in blood and cheese that got him kicked out of rhaenyra council was somehow a good idea to gain loyalty of an rmy……..without corlys blockade the blacks have nothing going for them so far.
Looking forward to ur next deep dive for episode 6.
Despite disagreements with some of your points, I must admit you made very good argument about people being shocked rather than happy about Meleys. It is very logical that they saw dragons - and their riders - as closer to gods, so Rhaeny's act was for them thing they couldn't really judge from their perspective.
I too loved the scene with Daemon and his “mom” for a multitude of reasons. For one, that is not how Alyssa would have looked, and this just adds to that idea that Daemon didn’t get to know his mom, so of course he imagined her in the most Targaryen-esque way. In fact, Alyssa didn’t really fit the Targaryen look, with her golden hair and heterochromia. It actually made me sympathize with Daemon in a way I never really have before. This man, however horrible, is chasing the experience he felt he never got, and I believe that is why he holds so tightly to his Targaryen superiority ideals, as a way to connect with the people he never got to know.
I'm all in with my Prince Regent.
It's maybe not great for the people of King's Landing, but it's very good to me 💚
I absolutely love Simon. Don't make me love characters HotD 😢
Oh and I've had alligator, which tastes like unethical and dry chicken. Eating it felt wrong, but my curiosity got the best of me. I'd imagine that's what dragons taste like.
As for Mysaria - I do not think her not being in Council is dure to her gender or lack of dragon, after all Rhaena was invited to council before sgoing to Vale. Mysaria is commoner - that why she has no place on council. It is not about gender or dragons, it's about class.
Jacaerys find his mother's allies wherevere he goes - it's clear people do not care about his parentage. Fact that most Houses will support Rhaenyra shows it was never about bloodline. Aegon the Uncronwned was rightfil heir on every legal technicality, yet he lost power - truth is nobles cannot take away heir's rights to te crown. It's family matter, not nobles. Aegon Uncrowned was supplanted by Maegor, and Jace was supplanted by Aegon and the Greens. Yet if you would ask the Realm, they clearly chose Rhaenyra - and thus Jacaerys - as their rightful rulers. None can prove bloodline in this world. People goes with names.
Team Green is absolutely Team Misogyny. It does not mean that Team Black is Team Feminist, I agree, and Rhaenyra is not feminist in modern meaning of ths term (though her potential sucess might result in gradual strenghthing of women position in Westeros). Alicent in show might be driven by her own motives, but - in show at least - Team Green already planned to usurp Rhaneyra, solely because of Rhaenyra's gender. Erase Alicent out of picture and nothing changes - Greens are would still usrp rigthful Queen. Their Team IS Team Misogyny. On other side, Rhaenyra's people not always believes in her ways because she is woman, but they are still willing to accept her as their ruler despite her gender.
with the emphasis made about finding the dragonseeds, do you think they’ll include nettles in this season? i know consensus was they were omitting her from the show but as far as i know that was fan speculation.
It's looking more and more like Rhaena is going to claim Sheepstealer, so I don't know how Nettles will fit into that. Condal has kinda hinted at her being a part of the show, maybe she gets Grey Ghost? I feel like that would be to many dragons on the Blacks, especially with Moondancer in the mix earlier.
@@QuinnFirstOfHerNamedamn, dude, you totally called it - are you a green-seer!?
I don't get why Alys said Daemon didn't know his mother while Viserys clearly said in season 1 ep 4 "you always was our mother's favorite"🙁
Yeah I was wondering about that too. Maybe it's because Viserys was older so he did remember her and he was jealous that baby Daemon was getting her attention?
I hate how they reduce mommy issues to weird kinks. I don't understand why the heck Aemond suddenly returned to that creepy ass brothel lady after whole 5 years of not seeing her. In 01 x09 he saw her for the first time since he was 13 and he was clearly shaken about it. But , for some unfathomable reason, they are now making her Aemond's secret girlfriend. I also wish Alicent didn't look like her daughter's younger sister. Rhaenys is allowed to look her age, but the showrunners are desperate to make her a sexy, desirable young woman and bend over backwards to make the audience forget she's a gradmother.
I actually think it makes a lot of sense for his character. Many people with experiences like that have complicated feelings about it, especially if you live in a society where it's totally normalized and not seen as abuse and you have no way to process it. Whatever the circumstances, he sought comfort that she was able to provide. I don't know if he was uncomfortable with her in e9 so much as uncomfortable with the situation. Criston Cole was right there, and that's his dad kind of.
I love Olivia Cooke and I would never want her to be recast, but it is TV nonsense that she's only 14 months older than an actor playing her son. Same with Cole. All his scenes with Aemond are low-key hilarious because those two characters are supposed to be over 25 years apart.
@@QuinnFirstOfHerName well, according to the scripts Aemond's "visibly shaken" when he sees her in episode 9. When she says the "how you have grown" line, he doesn't say a word and walks away. It was also heavily implied his first experience with her wasn't a pleasant one and the character said it out loud he hadn't had a clue what was going on when Aegon brought him from the brothel for the first time. IMO Aemond's love for the brothel madam in se2 comes out of thin air. And so do his mommy issues, since se1 Alicent was a decent mom. As for Olivia's casting - I think they could have easily aged her up with makeup and have Alicent wear more "matronly" outfits (like the dress she wore in 01x07). And, more importantly, they could have fleshed out the fact Alicent is a grandma and have her have quality time with the twins. Olivia would have surely slayed in such scenes.
I have zero idea what you want from Rhaenyra's way with Rhaena. She was talking calmly and with compassione. What do you want from her? Better, tell me how YOU would talk to Rhaena. Because Rhaenyra did everything as she should. She explained Rhaena how thing stand, that boys are not sfae and someone has to go and watch over them. It's Rhaena who acted as spoiled brat, as if it was her stepmother faults that no dragons want Rhaena and her egg refused to hatch. It's no Rhaenyra fault and she was not mean about this. She explained to Rhaena how things stand and was honest with girl: 'I cannot promise to make you happy'. Rhaenyra knows it will be hard for Rhaena but it is hard also for the Queen herself - shedid not want to to send her boys away. Yet Rhaena comletely ignored her stepmother's suffering and focused on her own frustration. Rhaena is allow to have frustrations, but there is time and place for it - she is not 5, she is 14. Rhaenyra showed big trust to Rhaena by entrusting her with her sons, she showe how much she values her stepdaughter. If Rhaena decides to be whinny teenager about it, that is her own problem. NONE hates her - if anything SHE hates herself and thinks she is not much worthy, whereas Rhaenyra clearly thinks otherwise by making her guardian of her children..
As for Baela, she would NOT be rightful heir if Rhaenys becom Queen. In show Laenor was older than Laena - making Jacaerys rightful heir from each family side. In book Rhaenys was to be Queen because she has no brothers, but her own daughter would still be behind Laenor - so unless Rhaenys changed the law, Baela would still not inherit, as Laenor's children would be before her.
Except that Jace isn't Laenor's by blood and legally bastards cannot inherit unless they are legitimized, and Jace is not, so Jace is not the rightful heir for either so yes Baela would've been the rightful heir.
@@islasullivan3463 They are not legally bastards. They are acknowledged meaning they are legitimate. There is no need to legitimized as they already ARE legitimate in eyes of law. (Just like Jon Snow was true born Targaryen but LEGALLY he was Stark bastard because he was claimed by his putative father as such). Also, in book Jace's paternity is ambigous, he actually can be biological son of Laenor, so your logic cannot be applie dtowards book. You also appear to forget Baela is fully aware of Harwin's situation and she still supports Jacaerys.
@@islasullivan3463 From legal point of view they are true-born. They are acknowledged meaning they are legitimate. There is no need to legitimized as they already ARE legitimate in eyes of law. (Just like Jon Snow was true born Targaryen but LEGALLY he was illegitimate because he was claimed by his putative father - Ned - as such).
@@islasullivan3463 Also, in book Jace's paternity is ambigous, he actually can be biological son of Laenor, so your logic cannot be applied towards book, and Quin was projecting book on show, as in book Laena is older, whereas in show she isn't. You also appear to forget Baela is fully aware of Harwin's situation and she still supports Jacaerys's claim neverthless.
@@islasullivan3463 From legal point of view they are true-born. They are acknowledged which means they are legitimate. There is no need to legitimized as they already are legitimate in eyes of law. (Just like Jon Snow was true born Targaryen but legally he was illegitimate because he was claimed by his putative father - Ned - as such.)