"So we've got the Concept-542. I don't know if that's what C means, but it does now".... Classic Steve humour, love it! Thanks for all the great coverage so far Steve/GN
I've always been fascinated by Silverstone cases. Their design is always functional and practical, although they're usually bit more expensive than I'd like to spend for a case.
I've found their construction style very robust but extremely heavy with the amount of metal used to the point where I'm genuinely wondering if it's supposed to withstand a house falling on top of it in an earthquake. This might seem like a positive point but I feel it's a bit overkill with how heavy they get.
I have some Silverstone Grandia Cases and there are no better horizontal, stealthy cases. They have good airflow, acoustics and are well designed and solid. I'm not really interested into tower PC's.
@@Alucard-gt1zf Even when building in it, or when opening the side panels it's a pain. And I know you're not supposed to move them but when you do you sometime you'll wonder why it's a solid brick.
The homeserver cases are really neat! I remember like two years ago it was really a hassle to get something like this when we needed rackmountable ATX cases which could fit 3090s for AI training workstations.
Steve, they NEED to build the FLP-01. Use the HDD LED in the I/O floppy cover, and so many people would use that for their HTPC builds. Also, the RM44 and RM51s are amazing chassis. Also super glad they seemed to have taken the feedback to heart when doing the RM52; sourcing 2x180 radiators is impossible and the rear 80mm wasn't enough for the hot running 10/25GbE. The RM52 should be able to mount 2x360 radiators (or possibly AIOs,) which should let it comfortably handle 2x 9654's.
Seconded. My current build is in an InWin BK623 that I've spray painted beige. I'd love to have an off-the-shelf alternative for the next time I want to do a build that takes up more desk space (although I still might hit it with a spray can if SilverStone insists on keeping the white!)
I'm the weirdo that would actually put a REAL 5.25" floppy drive in it (with the appropriate PCIe controller card in the motherboard of course because nobody makes a mobo with that port anymore). Why? I have a bunch of games for the IBM PCjr and the Apple II. And I want to play those games sometimes. I even have RISK for the Apple II! Plus it would be neat to see what the AI capabilities of my RTX 3070 Ti could do to a tool-assisted speedrun of any of those games.
The Advent of back facing connectors is a good "case" for motherboard trays. Where you can remove the motherboard plate and replace it with one that fits for your motherboard. That way the rest of the case works. Something I didn't really think about before. If the placement eventually standardized then good, but you'd already be set.
That's a good idea. I still have a few cases with removable motherboard trays, it was a common feature back in the day and could be really handy. Bringing that back to increase compatibility is a good shout.
10:07 we have LTT Alex to thank for this! He decided to test Silverstone's statement that up to 7 clip-on fans were supported by blowing past that because YOLO.
their power supplies are good too. i still have a silverstone decathlon da700 that was originally bought for an amd phenom II build that's still kicking to this day in my backup rig
Thanks for covering the server cases - I didn't realize they had the rolling one on castors , I will be ordering soon for my home setup. It is nearly exactly what I was looking for.. I"ve watched 2 other coverages of the Silverstone booth, and you are the first one to cover the home server cases.
Yeah... I have so many games that are so heavily modded that I would not even know where to start, if I ever had to rebuild one of it... so one of these cases might fit my next build 😅
I find it really sad that most recent cases have pretty much no space for hard drives, I updated my pc recently and couldn't find a good case so I just kept the one I bought 10 years ago, but that RM600 is exactly what I was looking for 😅
I give GN a lot of credit for this turn away from flashy RGB and towards airflow and function. It probably would have happened eventually, but almost certainly not this quickly.
I suspect it has more to do with the average age of the self-build community increasing. Those of us who were at an age where we could get a job and begin building our first rigs in the early '00s are now in our 40s. There will still be a lot of younger builders who care about RGB and other cosmetic flashiness, but there is an increasing amount of enthusiasts that couldn't give a crap about that stuff any more and want a PC that looks slightly more 'grown up', for want of a better term.
@@coliander4180 I fit that age. I'm in my mid 30s, built my first PC in 8th grade in 2002. Now I know It's just my personal preference but I NEVER LIKED RGB, and I remember the Cold cathode lights. I like some lighting, especially because I used to enjoy those clear plastic shells where you can see the electronics so I like looking into my PC every once in a while. But yeah I'm glad people are starting to move away from it. However you have to understand that there is still people getting into the hobby like we did, the cycle repeats and there's always going to be younger people getting into the hobby. I Don't think RGB is fully ever going to go away.
I just don't get the appeal of RGB. I think some understated lighting elements here and there can look nice and elevate a computer above just being a mostly featureless black box, but the whole ARGB thing just doesn't appeal to me. I suppose it must appeal to some since it's been around for so long, but I don't understand it myself.
@@dc8836 I actually learned one potential point of appeal for RGB just last night, from my FF14 FC-mates. A lot of them *play in the dark*, and thus the only source of light in their rooms is the RGB coming from their case. And their mouse. And their keyboard. And the RGB behind their monitor... And their *mouse pads*. (Yes, there are RGB mouse pads, now.) I was horrified, but if it works for them...
If this becomes an open standard with the cables on the backside of the motherboard I would be very happy. Given that graphic cards and cpu coolers are so large these days; even changing some cable in the case is now such a hassle; if I could access most peripherals via the back of the motherboard it would solve a lot of those issues. Also it will probably improve cable management and by extension the airflow.
Oh, the Alta F2 looks perfect. 13:06 Love the Vertex 2 in that thing. It's so hilariously out of place. May as well be an Intel X25 at this point. I'm also glad to see their 180mm fans back, especially on that rackmount case.
The Alta D1 looks like the perfect case for me (if they also deliver it in white it would be awesome). Considering that my current case is in use for 11 years counting, I don't have any any problem spending more for a truly practical case
Making the motherboard connectors on the back side of the pcb does makes sense aesthetically (and practically sometimes) but being too close to the rear panel even with the extra depth i think it's gonna cause issues with bending cables awkwardly next to a door panel. Maybe if they make enough space and make 90⁰ connectors so the cables don't stick out much and also reroute them on the pcb so all go on the same area like evga did on their dark series
I love the concept of fitting lots of drives like the Alta D1 case as I edit lots of video footage. My one critique on that case is they clearly put extra plastic on the back of the fans when they swing own to prevent people from touching them while they are movong if in case it is opened while they are moving. I get the safety reason for doing that but I also know that much plastic will absolutely collect dust and also impede airflow. I hope that becomes more open or easy to access for cleaning in the final design.
That Silverstone server cases are amazing. I love that 5U and RM600! Silverstone always comes up with something unique but grounded at the same time. Great company. I know it's counter to what they're going for but if they offered an acrylic window panel on some of them, that would be amazing too. I love seeing some blinkenlights on my board.
Always drooled over Silverstone cases. Especially over their Home theater ones with the built-in screen! Could never afford one but You can always dream!
Personally, I love the return to form. Get the RGB and gimmicks out of here. I want simple, well thought out mechanics. I have always been a huge supporter of stacked cooling, and I truly appreciate Silverstone making cases with airflow bottom to top as a priority.
I love that RM600! As someone looking to build a home server/NAS, it's been very frustrating trying to find a nice case that can hold 4-6 drives and standard internals for any affordable price. I know the RM600 won't be cheap, but it's designed and dedicated to it's purpose, so it may expand my budget
The April Fools joke FLP-1, or whatever it's called, is something I wish were on the market. Replace the fake floppy covers with normal panels and it's a winner for people looking for a retro-style build. I've done builds in old cases before, but modding them to fit modern hardware is a pain.
Love the D1 and the RM600 Would love to see some 5.25 bays in other cases, they are great for trayless hot swap bays and you could probably make a screen you could mount in them and put sensors and decorative stuff on Extra point to anyone who makes/puts analog gauges in a 5.25" bay form factor, just think of the thing you can make and mount into 5.25 bays, you could put a ARGB thing in it if you wanted
Silverstone also already makes a nice looking all-aluminum tool-less bay adapter that converts a 5.25" bay into 4 hot-swappable 2.5" bays. These days those 2.5" bays would be usually for SSDs, but HDDs are also supported. It also supports both SATA, and it's enterprise-grade version, SAS. This is cool for me because even tho my case only has 2 5.25" bays, I could turn that into up to 8 more SSDs plugged into my motherboard (my mobo DOES have the ports for that, and even if it didn't I could probably get a PCI-e card that would let me do that). SAS has a few extra features for enterprise-grade applications, the major one that pops to the front of my mind is that a SAS drive being controlled by a SAS controller can be told by the motherboard when to spin-up, this is important for a data center where they could have a large number of mechanical hard drives connected to a single motherboard, and so they need to stagger the spin-up of all the drives so that spike in power draw of having to spin up so many drives from a dead stop is reduced (remember, all electric motors regardless of method of operation draw more current when they're trying to start spinning from 0 RPM), because the motherboard can control the drives so that only a certain number of them are permitted to spin up at any given instant (so the motherboard might spin up 4 drives at a time until they're all spinning at start-up for testing purposes, and then set the ones that aren't being actively communicated with to idle as needed, thereby reducing operational electrical draw as well as limiting the power draw on starting something like a "one of the main file servers for the company" kind of application).
I would like to see a more "serious" entry from Silverstone for ITX-desktop cases. I know they have some, but I'm more interested in something like the NR200P. Ngl it's about time we shift a little bit away from huge ATX cases, since at least many consumers actually have no need for that. Not like it's gonna be abandoned anyway. Saving desk space with more space efficient PC's should be the focus, as SFF stuff is gaining popularity. Of course there's also still demand, no need to remind me.
I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum from you. I hate all things SFF and ITX. I want ginormous cases for my ATX boards so I can stuff it full of rads, fans and hard drives.
Been using the RM-44 for a while on my mobile server since it's sturdy as all hell, and has handles that work as a tower. Glad they are expanding the line.
The Alta D1 literally is the dream for me. It literally have the functionality of those old style cases from the early 2010s, been waiting for manufacturers to go back to these designs again and glad silverstone is doing it
Nice to see them around. The last build I was a part of used the Primera PM01. The top fan exits were nice, though shame it wasn't watercooled. That brings back memories...
3:20 i'm in the process of procuring parts for a Zeon 2690 v3 build and the case i was looking at was a phanteks with 8 drive bays but my firewall is a silverstone itx case and it is great. simple and easy to work in. So this silverstone home server box is peaking my interest Oh it's $600 maybe not
Haven't used any SilverStone stuff before and just recv'd the FW123-A slim fan. Had to get one to fit the fourth stick of RAM in :). And I'm starting to gather info for building a homelab/NAS, so bonus for the server case walkthrough :) Thanks GN! Excellent coverage throughout also! Really enjoyed the Fractal mini-itx feature and the In Win studio tour :)
The RM600 is so very close to my dream case. Relatively short depth so that it is easy to put into a flight rack used for AV equipment (think speaker amplifiers, video switchers etc.). The dual chamber design with the PSU + storage and motherboard is a concept I'm a fan of. I think the only quirk I can see is the amount of side ventilation it has which isn't something you can relay on inside mobile racks or front-to-back data center cooling. For home lab or small office, the side ventilation would be beneficial. Another downside I see is that the bottom PSU units have the fans at the bottom of the case. A cramped rack could suffocate them. My last quibble is that there isn't a 9th PCIe slot cover. Not that I know of a motherboard with 9 slots but the spaces can house devices like nVidia's Quadro Sync card without eating up a real PCIe slot on the motherboard. For those have haven't seen a Quadro Sync board, it is PCIe form factor but has no PCIe contacts as everything is simply cabled to it from other nVidia GPUs or externally. The extra slot spacing would also be nice to have for a 7 slot motherboard and placing a 3 slot card in the last slot. I wouldn't mind the choice of a 9th slot or side fans. The RM51 and RM52 also look very nice as they appear to be friendly for rack mounting many consumerish motherboards without having to sacrifice large air coolers/liquid coolers. They're also short depth which I like for many of the same use-cases I can imagine the RM600 fitting into. Alternatively these cases can house high power equipment for studio usage without needing to be loud. As for the USB to dual RS-232 option, it has its niche uses cases. Again going back to AV gear everything still has an RS-232 port for console style configuration. Ditto for console ports on network switches. This fitting onto a PCIe cover would be another use-case for my desired 9th slot spacing on the RM600.
I can honestly say I have NEVER had issues with PC cases being too deep (wide?), even in the case of things like the O11D with a back second compartment. Length from front to back(io panel) I have had issues with some older cases like HAF, but never in the depth/width. Adding a bit more to completely hide cables is totally acceptable, and preferred. In some cases, like the O11D, that space already exists, the only thing missing would be the cutaway to use said space for rear mounted cables.
I love the concept of the connections on the backside. That would make cable management SO MUCH EASIER!! I'd buy that board as soon as it came out. I'm not a tech tuber, but I'd get my feet wet building something like this.
Silverstone is a name I haven't heard in a long time. I used to have a Silverstone LC20 to match my multimedia center setup and had it connected to a receiver and plasma TV. It was a really great quality build, everything had a nice brushed aluminum look to it.
Really keen to see more of the connectors on the back side of the board. Hope you guys take a look at some of these products a bit deeper on the channel in the future.
I adore the FLP-01, though I wouldn't buy it in white. I've always preferred horizontal-format desktop cases, and I like having the option to install a 5.25" drive for legacy media without having to plug one in externally to a USB port. I've had my eye on Silverstone's Grandia GD-08 for years, and if I can still find one for sale next time I build a PC it might be my next case.
Still using the first Coolermaster Stacker I got about 20 years ago, was looking to finally get something smaller (and less silly), and here is that D1 and I'm going "oooh".
Case compatibility with motherboard rear connectors could be problematic unless the different manufacturers can standardise within a certain range where the connectors are because of the need to have cutouts with bars between. Unless it could be made a floating panel with just a channel all the way around by putting it on standoffs. Still using a 5.25" drive, so happy to see Silverstone and my current Fractal Design case still supporting them.
My current home server is in a Silverstone KL04 designed with lots of 3.5" bays and lots of direct airflow on them, and I love the look of the Alta D1. I'm good on 5.25" bays, I have old cases for that, but even more 3.5" bays with even more airflow would be great. $600 is really steep though, and hard to consider when even very nice gaming chassis are typically sub-$200.
I love the cables out the back concept....personally, I have never been a fan of white on cases, but for some reason that case looks pretty good in white. I would probably buy either color, but my preference tends to lean towards black. I like a case that big to kind of blend into my room as much as possible, and I have a black desk, lol.
Love the optional VRM fans for the AIO. Now you can have that option without choosing either Arctic or zip ties. And someone had a sense of humor, too!
yeah had to take an angle grinder to, then add a 3d printed jump to the lid of a couple of RM42 cases recently to fit 4080s into them. Was glad to see Silverstone are aware and bringing a 5u case to market.
Definitely appreciate the coverage that the Alta D1 deserves. It's a lovely looking case in terms of both aesthetics and flexibility. And the fans fully integrated into the door with the pogo-pins is the cherry on top.
ive been a fan of silverstone (pun possibly intended) for ages, and its really great to see them taking their high end engineering and quality and branching into really nice looking units. i hope they perform as well as they look, because they'll be fantastic.
Floppy case looks like a fun retro gaming build. If my next PC didn't have to be a workstation, I'd build the floppy case and paint it some fun colors.
I moved my dev pc’s to the rm44 cases. Having everything in a 12u rack under my desk has made everything way easier to manage, no more cable nightmares. Also use a custom loop for cooling , so great temps and silent operation.
Got lucky and bough SIlverstone PS15 (non-rgb, with glass panel) for 44 euros few years back, was impressed how well made and though out it was. And the looks are sharp. Rarely see them in shops tho, where I live.
Like I said in the MSI video, these newer board layouts with backside connectors need full standardization of what ports go where, which would be helped with a post-ATX spec that can further optimize things more than an updated ATX spec could; which would further be helped with newer ports entirely, such as moving to 12VO with 12VHPWR-style cables, actually standardizing how front panel connectors are laid out, involving a SATA update that combines data and power into a minimized port, etc. With a post-ATX spec all internal ports can be localized to specific areas, a CPU + board combo power jack could solve the entire power connection and this could be localized to the typical left of center at the top of the board, all the system fan headers could be localized to right of center along the top of the board, and all internal data and front panel connectors could be localized to the top right of the board next to the memory slots, and this could be done easily with port minimizations such as how USB 3.0 went from the old bulky connector to the Type E port, or what I suggest for a minimized SATA data + power port, etc.; this would also leave the lower half of the board for other things, like better localized card slots for m.2, though I also argue that a post-ATX spec needs to include backside slots for m.2 or an m.2 successor. Hanging onto antiquated specs stifles evolution, where clearly the industry is wanting to evolve while these antiquated specs might get updates but lacks flexibility for proper implementation. For the time being, other than having massive cutouts, the best solution might just be to make the motherboard a structural component of the case itself. Cut a massive hole and have mounting tabs, as motherboard manufacturers still have to have the mounting holes the ATX spec defines, case manufacturers can use this to have a tabbed mounting point as these holes also have a defined keep-out area which is typically the massive grounding via-pad. Is it the best solution? Probably not, but it's also the way to work around board variance within a push for evolution on an antiquated spec that doesn't have the breathing room to properly adapt. The only issue is what happens when you want to shrink or expand from the ATX-mATX layout, which could be solved with add-in plates, have rigid tab-slot connections at the top and screw holes at the bottom for a plate that jumps the gap between the shrink and growth of different specs. Again, not the best solution, but it's the most flexible workaround until the industry adopts something better than the antiquated ATX spec. I also wish all these cases with internalized external I/O would have panel mounted I/O at the rear, just so that your peripheral cables aren't snaking through a case where you could easily need an extra foot of slack; especially with cases of this size, you're probably looking at housing it on the floor, unless you have a massively oversized desk that can also bear the weight. And at the costs of these cases, I would outright expect panel mount I/O, quite possibly a solution that better internalizes the cables in a neater solution, possibly as a modular feature so that you can choose what ports you have on the panel itself. There's also more than enough room to implement this, on this case specifically that hole in the back could easily have a panel that supports all of your motherboard and GPU I/O; though that's also a bit overkill, a lot of those USBs could become front panel ports via the same solution. But also with these kinds of solutions, I'd also like to see innovation, specifically in this instance of using the benefits of USB4 to consolidate I/O into a fewer-wire solution via an internalized hub, of which can have a breakout hub at the desk surface (or a VESA-compatible bracket, or spacer solution, etc., that can house the breakout hub), and the benefit of having this external to the motherboard itself is that it will be fully USB4 and supports dGPU input as it's a downstream device. These things are so close to being the pinnacle of premium offerings, yet oversights like this are fumbles that consumers should expect better from.
Just throwing it out there for MObo and case manufacturers. my Next build I will ABSOLUTELY be looking for a cables on the back style. I really hope the rest of the industry follows on, So thank you for doing this. I've often tried to ask why everything on a motherboard even still has the silly pins and cables options. just design the case so the mobo contacts it, and have the psu plug into the case. I really don't get the stuck inside the box design people have been doing for years now. M.2 was a MASSIVE change for simply plug and play drives with minimal skill required. more MOBO's need things like that imho. Make a PC a todler could build. (like a console)
I don't know about the industry as a whole, but I've always wished pc cases were at least 10-20cm wider. I've resorted to just remove the side panels just to be able to place everything (specially cables) at the most optimal position, and couldn't care any less about "how it looks". I just want a system that is easy to setup, clean and maintain without all the unnecessary functionless bs like RGB, glass panels and narrow profiles.
I want this floppy case! :D It looks retro in the exact perfect way. Its a flat case, its white, it doesnt sell you on RGB and glass panels - its a functional case with a lovely gimmick. Please, I want this case - make it happen Silverstone!
As somoene running a new all NvME system with no SATA drives, these "wires on the back" motherboards better be mainstream by the time I do my next build. Ultra clean, no wires visible is what I'd like to do, for sure!
New cases with glass panels and RGB: I sleep home server cases with fans and hotswap bays (what the 5.25 is mostly for nowadays) and an actual metal frame: I AM HYPE the prices: I am sad, real sad
I still have a TJ10, it's the best case i have ever owned and probably the last. cable management is tricky, but this thing is built like a tank, and the style is classy and high quality. Besides, it has removable tray.
TJ07 here. If that monster collided with a small car, the car would probably be totalled and the case fine. Jokes aside, Silverstone really does build stuff to last. The TJ07 is showing its age esp wrt cable management, so it's probably not going to be my last case ever, but probably will remain in service until the end of the decade at least.
Loving the idea or concept of having the cable connections in the back of the motherboard. Loving the Alta D1 case. Just can't tell if the power button and usb ports are on the top of the case. Owning cats makes it a nightmare to have the power button and usb ports on the top of the case.
Not naming it Alta F4 seems like a missed opportunity.
This is amazing
Bruh😂
😂😂😂
They still have time to change it!
With the tag line "the case thats very quick to close"
"So we've got the Concept-542. I don't know if that's what C means, but it does now".... Classic Steve humour, love it! Thanks for all the great coverage so far Steve/GN
Thanks for the support! And hahaha, they told me later "it means case" and I said, "not anymore! Sorry!"
@@GamersNexus Hahaha love it
@@GamersNexus I can totally see someone making a Documentary about you in many years... Steve - When Man turns Legend XD
I read this then heard it 2 seconds later lmao
Thank you for showing us the home server side of cases.
I've always been fascinated by Silverstone cases. Their design is always functional and practical, although they're usually bit more expensive than I'd like to spend for a case.
I've found their construction style very robust but extremely heavy with the amount of metal used to the point where I'm genuinely wondering if it's supposed to withstand a house falling on top of it in an earthquake. This might seem like a positive point but I feel it's a bit overkill with how heavy they get.
I have some Silverstone Grandia Cases and there are no better horizontal, stealthy cases. They have good airflow, acoustics and are well designed and solid. I'm not really interested into tower PC's.
yes but now they have lost it. 1000dollar for a simple steel construction with a bit of glass, plastic and alloy.
@@tempacc9589 your not meant to move a tower....
@@Alucard-gt1zf Even when building in it, or when opening the side panels it's a pain. And I know you're not supposed to move them but when you do you sometime you'll wonder why it's a solid brick.
Damn nuts to see how far Silverstone has come
from the TJ-07 you mean?
Mystifying.
What, you use a part of my name in your comment, I used a part of yours 😜😵💫
i love that 2 system single case... wonder what will be the price asa normal
The homeserver cases are really neat! I remember like two years ago it was really a hassle to get something like this when we needed rackmountable ATX cases which could fit 3090s for AI training workstations.
I wonder how it stacks up to the Fractal Define R7 case.
I'm just eying it because of those 5 1/4" drive bays. And yes, Steve. You can use them for a LOT more than just an optical drive. XP
Seems like the ideal case for a home AI server... 🤔
Steve, they NEED to build the FLP-01. Use the HDD LED in the I/O floppy cover, and so many people would use that for their HTPC builds. Also, the RM44 and RM51s are amazing chassis. Also super glad they seemed to have taken the feedback to heart when doing the RM52; sourcing 2x180 radiators is impossible and the rear 80mm wasn't enough for the hot running 10/25GbE. The RM52 should be able to mount 2x360 radiators (or possibly AIOs,) which should let it comfortably handle 2x 9654's.
Seconded. My current build is in an InWin BK623 that I've spray painted beige. I'd love to have an off-the-shelf alternative for the next time I want to do a build that takes up more desk space (although I still might hit it with a spray can if SilverStone insists on keeping the white!)
I'm the weirdo that would actually put a REAL 5.25" floppy drive in it (with the appropriate PCIe controller card in the motherboard of course because nobody makes a mobo with that port anymore).
Why? I have a bunch of games for the IBM PCjr and the Apple II.
And I want to play those games sometimes. I even have RISK for the Apple II!
Plus it would be neat to see what the AI capabilities of my RTX 3070 Ti could do to a tool-assisted speedrun of any of those games.
The Advent of back facing connectors is a good "case" for motherboard trays. Where you can remove the motherboard plate and replace it with one that fits for your motherboard. That way the rest of the case works. Something I didn't really think about before. If the placement eventually standardized then good, but you'd already be set.
That's a good idea. I still have a few cases with removable motherboard trays, it was a common feature back in the day and could be really handy. Bringing that back to increase compatibility is a good shout.
10:07 we have LTT Alex to thank for this! He decided to test Silverstone's statement that up to 7 clip-on fans were supported by blowing past that because YOLO.
Literally Alex and Antony are the best people at LTT with attention to detail.
@@SMGJohn Don't you mean "Emily"
@@benisrood
No I meant Adolf Hitler.
I am really impressed with Silverstones build quality in all the products shown.
their power supplies are good too. i still have a silverstone decathlon da700 that was originally bought for an amd phenom II build that's still kicking to this day in my backup rig
Thanks for covering the server cases - I didn't realize they had the rolling one on castors , I will be ordering soon for my home setup. It is nearly exactly what I was looking for.. I"ve watched 2 other coverages of the Silverstone booth, and you are the first one to cover the home server cases.
Get the 2'' mini casters with dual wheels. They roll better and are more stable.
Yes, finally a case I can actually be interested in. Wish there was more datahoarder-friendly cases like the D1 and RM600.
Yeah... I have so many games that are so heavily modded that I would not even know where to start, if I ever had to rebuild one of it... so one of these cases might fit my next build 😅
I find it really sad that most recent cases have pretty much no space for hard drives, I updated my pc recently and couldn't find a good case so I just kept the one I bought 10 years ago, but that RM600 is exactly what I was looking for 😅
The retro April Fool's case is awesome. I can see a lot of retro and sleeper builders wanting to buy that.
It has to be that beige color though
Yeah I so would want it in either a beige color or a nice cream color.
I give GN a lot of credit for this turn away from flashy RGB and towards airflow and function. It probably would have happened eventually, but almost certainly not this quickly.
I suspect it has more to do with the average age of the self-build community increasing. Those of us who were at an age where we could get a job and begin building our first rigs in the early '00s are now in our 40s. There will still be a lot of younger builders who care about RGB and other cosmetic flashiness, but there is an increasing amount of enthusiasts that couldn't give a crap about that stuff any more and want a PC that looks slightly more 'grown up', for want of a better term.
@@coliander4180 I fit that age. I'm in my mid 30s, built my first PC in 8th grade in 2002. Now I know It's just my personal preference but I NEVER LIKED RGB, and I remember the Cold cathode lights.
I like some lighting, especially because I used to enjoy those clear plastic shells where you can see the electronics so I like looking into my PC every once in a while. But yeah I'm glad people are starting to move away from it. However you have to understand that there is still people getting into the hobby like we did, the cycle repeats and there's always going to be younger people getting into the hobby. I Don't think RGB is fully ever going to go away.
I just don't get the appeal of RGB. I think some understated lighting elements here and there can look nice and elevate a computer above just being a mostly featureless black box, but the whole ARGB thing just doesn't appeal to me. I suppose it must appeal to some since it's been around for so long, but I don't understand it myself.
@@dc8836 I actually learned one potential point of appeal for RGB just last night, from my FF14 FC-mates. A lot of them *play in the dark*, and thus the only source of light in their rooms is the RGB coming from their case. And their mouse. And their keyboard. And the RGB behind their monitor... And their *mouse pads*. (Yes, there are RGB mouse pads, now.)
I was horrified, but if it works for them...
@@coredumperror Like I have "RGB" on my keyboard but I have it set to one static color just for the backlighting.
It's so good to see cases that are not "box-with-PSU-shroud-plus-a-new-RGB-gizmo"
The Alta F2 is definitely on my watch list
I was really interested in the F2, but 1000$ ... RIP
I would love to see more Function-First products and reviews.
Really like those Silverstone cases! The move back to "old school" function-focused designs is really nice to see.
If this becomes an open standard with the cables on the backside of the motherboard I would be very happy. Given that graphic cards and cpu coolers are so large these days; even changing some cable in the case is now such a hassle; if I could access most peripherals via the back of the motherboard it would solve a lot of those issues. Also it will probably improve cable management and by extension the airflow.
Silverstone is the Keltec of case manufacturers. They just do their own crazy thing and it's kinda cool.
That’s a reference I didn’t expect. Let’s hope without the weird QC or availability.
Oh, the Alta F2 looks perfect.
13:06 Love the Vertex 2 in that thing. It's so hilariously out of place. May as well be an Intel X25 at this point.
I'm also glad to see their 180mm fans back, especially on that rackmount case.
The Alta D1 looks like the perfect case for me (if they also deliver it in white it would be awesome). Considering that my current case is in use for 11 years counting, I don't have any any problem spending more for a truly practical case
i'm very much eying the rm51. a rack mount case with room for a proper good cpu tower tower cooler would be awesome.
7 months later and its nowhere to be found... just smoke.
Shine on, Silverstone. I can never see enough of what they come up with. Everything from cases to quirky accessories are a treat to learn about.
Making the motherboard connectors on the back side of the pcb does makes sense aesthetically (and practically sometimes) but being too close to the rear panel even with the extra depth i think it's gonna cause issues with bending cables awkwardly next to a door panel.
Maybe if they make enough space and make 90⁰ connectors so the cables don't stick out much and also reroute them on the pcb so all go on the same area like evga did on their dark series
I love the concept of fitting lots of drives like the Alta D1 case as I edit lots of video footage. My one critique on that case is they clearly put extra plastic on the back of the fans when they swing own to prevent people from touching them while they are movong if in case it is opened while they are moving. I get the safety reason for doing that but I also know that much plastic will absolutely collect dust and also impede airflow. I hope that becomes more open or easy to access for cleaning in the final design.
I love how those server style cases look, i would take that over rgb and glass panels any day of the week.
I would take ventilated side panels over any other design any day.
These Silverstone cases look really interesting to me. Looking forward to your coverage GN!
That Silverstone server cases are amazing. I love that 5U and RM600! Silverstone always comes up with something unique but grounded at the same time. Great company. I know it's counter to what they're going for but if they offered an acrylic window panel on some of them, that would be amazing too. I love seeing some blinkenlights on my board.
No, please no. Can't we have server cases without this crap?
Always drooled over Silverstone cases. Especially over their Home theater ones with the built-in screen!
Could never afford one but You can always dream!
Personally, I love the return to form. Get the RGB and gimmicks out of here. I want simple, well thought out mechanics. I have always been a huge supporter of stacked cooling, and I truly appreciate Silverstone making cases with airflow bottom to top as a priority.
9:20
Yes Silverstone, I will have the FLP-01 in beige thank you very much.
I loved the rotated layout of the RV01 even though it was not really for DIY water cooling back in the day.
appreciate the look at the homeserver cases :D Silverstone always made neat cases
I love that RM600! As someone looking to build a home server/NAS, it's been very frustrating trying to find a nice case that can hold 4-6 drives and standard internals for any affordable price. I know the RM600 won't be cheap, but it's designed and dedicated to it's purpose, so it may expand my budget
The April Fools joke FLP-1, or whatever it's called, is something I wish were on the market. Replace the fake floppy covers with normal panels and it's a winner for people looking for a retro-style build. I've done builds in old cases before, but modding them to fit modern hardware is a pain.
Love the D1 and the RM600
Would love to see some 5.25 bays in other cases, they are great for trayless hot swap bays and you could probably make a screen you could mount in them and put sensors and decorative stuff on
Extra point to anyone who makes/puts analog gauges in a 5.25" bay form factor, just think of the thing you can make and mount into 5.25 bays, you could put a ARGB thing in it if you wanted
Silverstone also already makes a nice looking all-aluminum tool-less bay adapter that converts a 5.25" bay into 4 hot-swappable 2.5" bays. These days those 2.5" bays would be usually for SSDs, but HDDs are also supported. It also supports both SATA, and it's enterprise-grade version, SAS.
This is cool for me because even tho my case only has 2 5.25" bays, I could turn that into up to 8 more SSDs plugged into my motherboard (my mobo DOES have the ports for that, and even if it didn't I could probably get a PCI-e card that would let me do that).
SAS has a few extra features for enterprise-grade applications, the major one that pops to the front of my mind is that a SAS drive being controlled by a SAS controller can be told by the motherboard when to spin-up, this is important for a data center where they could have a large number of mechanical hard drives connected to a single motherboard, and so they need to stagger the spin-up of all the drives so that spike in power draw of having to spin up so many drives from a dead stop is reduced (remember, all electric motors regardless of method of operation draw more current when they're trying to start spinning from 0 RPM), because the motherboard can control the drives so that only a certain number of them are permitted to spin up at any given instant (so the motherboard might spin up 4 drives at a time until they're all spinning at start-up for testing purposes, and then set the ones that aren't being actively communicated with to idle as needed, thereby reducing operational electrical draw as well as limiting the power draw on starting something like a "one of the main file servers for the company" kind of application).
I would like to see a more "serious" entry from Silverstone for ITX-desktop cases. I know they have some, but I'm more interested in something like the NR200P.
Ngl it's about time we shift a little bit away from huge ATX cases, since at least many consumers actually have no need for that. Not like it's gonna be abandoned anyway. Saving desk space with more space efficient PC's should be the focus, as SFF stuff is gaining popularity.
Of course there's also still demand, no need to remind me.
I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum from you. I hate all things SFF and ITX. I want ginormous cases for my ATX boards so I can stuff it full of rads, fans and hard drives.
@@GrizzAxxemann same. I love their approach with the server chassis, even the 5U upsizing for much bigger air coolers.
Been using the RM-44 for a while on my mobile server since it's sturdy as all hell, and has handles that work as a tower. Glad they are expanding the line.
The Alta D1 literally is the dream for me. It literally have the functionality of those old style cases from the early 2010s, been waiting for manufacturers to go back to these designs again and glad silverstone is doing it
yes yes exactly
Silverstone is still one of the best case makers in business.
Nice to see them around. The last build I was a part of used the Primera PM01. The top fan exits were nice, though shame it wasn't watercooled. That brings back memories...
3:20 i'm in the process of procuring parts for a Zeon 2690 v3 build and the case i was looking at was a phanteks with 8 drive bays but my firewall is a silverstone itx case and it is great. simple and easy to work in. So this silverstone home server box is peaking my interest
Oh it's $600 maybe not
Haven't used any SilverStone stuff before and just recv'd the FW123-A slim fan. Had to get one to fit the fourth stick of RAM in :). And I'm starting to gather info for building a homelab/NAS, so bonus for the server case walkthrough :) Thanks GN! Excellent coverage throughout also! Really enjoyed the Fractal mini-itx feature and the In Win studio tour :)
The RM600 is so very close to my dream case. Relatively short depth so that it is easy to put into a flight rack used for AV equipment (think speaker amplifiers, video switchers etc.). The dual chamber design with the PSU + storage and motherboard is a concept I'm a fan of. I think the only quirk I can see is the amount of side ventilation it has which isn't something you can relay on inside mobile racks or front-to-back data center cooling. For home lab or small office, the side ventilation would be beneficial. Another downside I see is that the bottom PSU units have the fans at the bottom of the case. A cramped rack could suffocate them. My last quibble is that there isn't a 9th PCIe slot cover. Not that I know of a motherboard with 9 slots but the spaces can house devices like nVidia's Quadro Sync card without eating up a real PCIe slot on the motherboard. For those have haven't seen a Quadro Sync board, it is PCIe form factor but has no PCIe contacts as everything is simply cabled to it from other nVidia GPUs or externally. The extra slot spacing would also be nice to have for a 7 slot motherboard and placing a 3 slot card in the last slot. I wouldn't mind the choice of a 9th slot or side fans.
The RM51 and RM52 also look very nice as they appear to be friendly for rack mounting many consumerish motherboards without having to sacrifice large air coolers/liquid coolers. They're also short depth which I like for many of the same use-cases I can imagine the RM600 fitting into. Alternatively these cases can house high power equipment for studio usage without needing to be loud.
As for the USB to dual RS-232 option, it has its niche uses cases. Again going back to AV gear everything still has an RS-232 port for console style configuration. Ditto for console ports on network switches. This fitting onto a PCIe cover would be another use-case for my desired 9th slot spacing on the RM600.
Love their build quality. I have a Silverstone FT02-R from 2008(?) And it just cools so well my components. Love it!
I can honestly say I have NEVER had issues with PC cases being too deep (wide?), even in the case of things like the O11D with a back second compartment. Length from front to back(io panel) I have had issues with some older cases like HAF, but never in the depth/width. Adding a bit more to completely hide cables is totally acceptable, and preferred. In some cases, like the O11D, that space already exists, the only thing missing would be the cutaway to use said space for rear mounted cables.
I love the concept of the connections on the backside. That would make cable management SO MUCH EASIER!! I'd buy that board as soon as it came out. I'm not a tech tuber, but I'd get my feet wet building something like this.
Silverstone is a name I haven't heard in a long time. I used to have a Silverstone LC20 to match my multimedia center setup and had it connected to a receiver and plasma TV. It was a really great quality build, everything had a nice brushed aluminum look to it.
1:36 woah how is steve talking while steve is floating around?! insane
Really keen to see more of the connectors on the back side of the board. Hope you guys take a look at some of these products a bit deeper on the channel in the future.
Honestly that AIO+ 1 fan for VRM actually sounds cool! Another way to get the Arctic LF2 functionality via that small VRM fan built into the pump!
Silverstone went with "trust me bro, i'll get case ready for you MSI", and they did deliver
Really loving the new Computex content from GN.
I'm building a 2l ITX case with LP GPU support and FLP case made me want to design the front to look like 80s cases. Looks so cool.
I adore the FLP-01, though I wouldn't buy it in white. I've always preferred horizontal-format desktop cases, and I like having the option to install a 5.25" drive for legacy media without having to plug one in externally to a USB port. I've had my eye on Silverstone's Grandia GD-08 for years, and if I can still find one for sale next time I build a PC it might be my next case.
That RM600 is nice. Thanks for showing the storage oriented cases. Those don't get nearly enough love.
Love the Alta D1 and Alta F2 has that wonderful vertical mb layout! Thosserver style cases with function first really amazing too!
Still using the first Coolermaster Stacker I got about 20 years ago, was looking to finally get something smaller (and less silly), and here is that D1 and I'm going "oooh".
Case compatibility with motherboard rear connectors could be problematic unless the different manufacturers can standardise within a certain range where the connectors are because of the need to have cutouts with bars between.
Unless it could be made a floating panel with just a channel all the way around by putting it on standoffs.
Still using a 5.25" drive, so happy to see Silverstone and my current Fractal Design case still supporting them.
My current home server is in a Silverstone KL04 designed with lots of 3.5" bays and lots of direct airflow on them, and I love the look of the Alta D1. I'm good on 5.25" bays, I have old cases for that, but even more 3.5" bays with even more airflow would be great. $600 is really steep though, and hard to consider when even very nice gaming chassis are typically sub-$200.
Love ❤️ those server cases 😍
the Silverstone power supplys & fans are worth a look. High quality & specialized options like the only pwm 50mm fan
I love the cables out the back concept....personally, I have never been a fan of white on cases, but for some reason that case looks pretty good in white. I would probably buy either color, but my preference tends to lean towards black. I like a case that big to kind of blend into my room as much as possible, and I have a black desk, lol.
love that trend with the back connectors. and it's not only about aesthetics. less cables means more air.
God I love cases so much. I think they’re my favorite pc component now. So much variety and imagination when compared to the rest of the stuff
Might consider building in one of these and rack mounting. Really liking the coverage this week. Thanks!
Thank you for covering the racks! It's my form factor of choice despite being an enthusiast :)
Love the optional VRM fans for the AIO. Now you can have that option without choosing either Arctic or zip ties. And someone had a sense of humor, too!
yeah had to take an angle grinder to, then add a 3d printed jump to the lid of a couple of RM42 cases recently to fit 4080s into them. Was glad to see Silverstone are aware and bringing a 5u case to market.
Definitely appreciate the coverage that the Alta D1 deserves. It's a lovely looking case in terms of both aesthetics and flexibility. And the fans fully integrated into the door with the pogo-pins is the cherry on top.
ive been a fan of silverstone (pun possibly intended) for ages, and its really great to see them taking their high end engineering and quality and branching into really nice looking units. i hope they perform as well as they look, because they'll be fantastic.
Floppy case looks like a fun retro gaming build. If my next PC didn't have to be a workstation, I'd build the floppy case and paint it some fun colors.
In love with all those legacy ports and bays on the Alta D1
that last case is just perfect, no one needs anything else
I moved my dev pc’s to the rm44 cases. Having everything in a 12u rack under my desk has made everything way easier to manage, no more cable nightmares. Also use a custom loop for cooling , so great temps and silent operation.
Got lucky and bough SIlverstone PS15 (non-rgb, with glass panel) for 44 euros few years back, was impressed how well made and though out it was. And the looks are sharp. Rarely see them in shops tho, where I live.
Like I said in the MSI video, these newer board layouts with backside connectors need full standardization of what ports go where, which would be helped with a post-ATX spec that can further optimize things more than an updated ATX spec could; which would further be helped with newer ports entirely, such as moving to 12VO with 12VHPWR-style cables, actually standardizing how front panel connectors are laid out, involving a SATA update that combines data and power into a minimized port, etc. With a post-ATX spec all internal ports can be localized to specific areas, a CPU + board combo power jack could solve the entire power connection and this could be localized to the typical left of center at the top of the board, all the system fan headers could be localized to right of center along the top of the board, and all internal data and front panel connectors could be localized to the top right of the board next to the memory slots, and this could be done easily with port minimizations such as how USB 3.0 went from the old bulky connector to the Type E port, or what I suggest for a minimized SATA data + power port, etc.; this would also leave the lower half of the board for other things, like better localized card slots for m.2, though I also argue that a post-ATX spec needs to include backside slots for m.2 or an m.2 successor. Hanging onto antiquated specs stifles evolution, where clearly the industry is wanting to evolve while these antiquated specs might get updates but lacks flexibility for proper implementation.
For the time being, other than having massive cutouts, the best solution might just be to make the motherboard a structural component of the case itself. Cut a massive hole and have mounting tabs, as motherboard manufacturers still have to have the mounting holes the ATX spec defines, case manufacturers can use this to have a tabbed mounting point as these holes also have a defined keep-out area which is typically the massive grounding via-pad. Is it the best solution? Probably not, but it's also the way to work around board variance within a push for evolution on an antiquated spec that doesn't have the breathing room to properly adapt. The only issue is what happens when you want to shrink or expand from the ATX-mATX layout, which could be solved with add-in plates, have rigid tab-slot connections at the top and screw holes at the bottom for a plate that jumps the gap between the shrink and growth of different specs. Again, not the best solution, but it's the most flexible workaround until the industry adopts something better than the antiquated ATX spec.
I also wish all these cases with internalized external I/O would have panel mounted I/O at the rear, just so that your peripheral cables aren't snaking through a case where you could easily need an extra foot of slack; especially with cases of this size, you're probably looking at housing it on the floor, unless you have a massively oversized desk that can also bear the weight. And at the costs of these cases, I would outright expect panel mount I/O, quite possibly a solution that better internalizes the cables in a neater solution, possibly as a modular feature so that you can choose what ports you have on the panel itself. There's also more than enough room to implement this, on this case specifically that hole in the back could easily have a panel that supports all of your motherboard and GPU I/O; though that's also a bit overkill, a lot of those USBs could become front panel ports via the same solution. But also with these kinds of solutions, I'd also like to see innovation, specifically in this instance of using the benefits of USB4 to consolidate I/O into a fewer-wire solution via an internalized hub, of which can have a breakout hub at the desk surface (or a VESA-compatible bracket, or spacer solution, etc., that can house the breakout hub), and the benefit of having this external to the motherboard itself is that it will be fully USB4 and supports dGPU input as it's a downstream device. These things are so close to being the pinnacle of premium offerings, yet oversights like this are fumbles that consumers should expect better from.
Just throwing it out there for MObo and case manufacturers. my Next build I will ABSOLUTELY be looking for a cables on the back style.
I really hope the rest of the industry follows on, So thank you for doing this.
I've often tried to ask why everything on a motherboard even still has the silly pins and cables options. just design the case so the mobo contacts it, and have the psu plug into the case.
I really don't get the stuck inside the box design people have been doing for years now. M.2 was a MASSIVE change for simply plug and play drives with minimal skill required. more MOBO's need things like that imho. Make a PC a todler could build. (like a console)
I love Silverstone so much, theyre the only company ive been able to find with reasonably affordable, accessible home nas cases
I don't know about the industry as a whole, but I've always wished pc cases were at least 10-20cm wider.
I've resorted to just remove the side panels just to be able to place everything (specially cables) at the most optimal position, and couldn't care any less about "how it looks". I just want a system that is easy to setup, clean and maintain without all the unnecessary functionless bs like RGB, glass panels and narrow profiles.
Completely agree. Especially after the success of the Lian-Li O11D family of cases, this has proved that people don't care about case width.
l JUST WANT A CASE WHERE MY GPU CAN BREATHE
9:02 I absolutely love it, I would 100% buy it at insane "low volume" markup
I like the Alta D1 front panel quality/hinges, enjoy the ability to put the graphics card in interesting spots.
I want this floppy case! :D It looks retro in the exact perfect way. Its a flat case, its white, it doesnt sell you on RGB and glass panels - its a functional case with a lovely gimmick. Please, I want this case - make it happen Silverstone!
As somoene running a new all NvME system with no SATA drives, these "wires on the back" motherboards better be mainstream by the time I do my next build. Ultra clean, no wires visible is what I'd like to do, for sure!
Wow, good on silverstone for actually making a case you can put these things in. Didn't think I'd need to give praise for that but here we are
6:47 "Overclocked Cruise ship"
10:18 "Silverstone Overdrive"
13:29 "Toolbox for every task"
New cases with glass panels and RGB: I sleep
home server cases with fans and hotswap bays (what the 5.25 is mostly for nowadays) and an actual metal frame: I AM HYPE
the prices: I am sad, real sad
Silverstone engineers must been having fun with those fan stacks
I still have a TJ10, it's the best case i have ever owned and probably the last. cable management is tricky, but this thing is built like a tank, and the style is classy and high quality. Besides, it has removable tray.
TJ07 here. If that monster collided with a small car, the car would probably be totalled and the case fine.
Jokes aside, Silverstone really does build stuff to last. The TJ07 is showing its age esp wrt cable management, so it's probably not going to be my last case ever, but probably will remain in service until the end of the decade at least.
Love the idea of rear cabling. At some point, we could massively reduce case clutter with shorter wiring and more direct plug access.
I loved my old Raven RV02B - I am really looking forward to the Alta F2 release.
The RM600 looks rather nice for a higher end workstation. Tempting
Love the style of those home server cases. Very cool stuff.
I really want that FLP 01.
Loving the idea or concept of having the cable connections in the back of the motherboard. Loving the Alta D1 case. Just can't tell if the power button and usb ports are on the top of the case. Owning cats makes it a nightmare to have the power button and usb ports on the top of the case.
I'm so glad they made cases with space for a bunch of hard drives! It's really convenient to have cases like that for a NAS build
Rocking a Silverstone LC13B-E HTPC case from 2011. So well made. Can't see replacing that ever.
9:10 👀 of course we want that
Alta D1 looks awesome-- spill-proof top, 180mm fans, 5.25'' bays AND that high quality front panel, really nice. Plus-- NO LEDs!
Very cool! It's like Silverstone has been asleep at the wheel for years, glad to see them doing neat things again
Raven owners unite! I've only just built a machine not in my RV03. I might reuse it as a home sever chassis, make the most of the heaps of drive space