GREEN BERETS Breakdown Red Dawn | Beers and Breakdowns
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The original version of this remake was supposed to feature China as the main adversary. That's why you see PLA Type 07 uniforms and knock-off HMMWVs. BUT even when this movie was made we couldn't offend our Chinese overlords so the enemy was switched to North Koreans.
I remember that change of the movie from the PLA to the Norks, which would be like being invaded by Rhode Island.
As a South Korean immigrant and combat vet I can verify my cousins to the North are absolutely worthless in terms of military power. I was stationed in SK at the beginning of my second enlistment and ROK MI was in the process of debriefing a number of NK deserters. Through casual conversation with one of their MI NCO’s, he relayed to me that one of the NK guys seeking asylum stated that everything from their weapons to comm gear was decades old with the exception of a few notable newer pieces of equipment clearly purchased from the Chinese.
@@raybans4980 Rhode Island is neither a road nor an island.
I remember this, sad that the creators of Red Dawn bent the Knee. As an American that decision by them signaled to me who was truly in charge of our media, and ultimately the subversion of our way life through entertainment.
Its because all of the media companies are working with them , look up the three red banners , then look up J oes logo..
I like how the fighter jet flies under the soldiers as they are descending in their parachutes .
lmao
@@FNGACADEMY also the large-scale daylight airborne drop without resistance or a heads up? The story in both was improbably but this absolutely took the cake LMAO 🤣
The first movie had a big impact on us because we grew up with the Soviet Union and the Cold War. The threat of war was in everything. Plus we didn't have the internet or smart phones.
Strange how the things that led to the invasion in the first movie, are now happening as Russia invades Ukraine 🤔
That tip on fooling dog handlers was fascinating. Thank you!
you bet!
I was literally just going to say the same thing. I can’t believe I’ve never heard that before. So smart. The only downside I could see is that you would need quite a jump on the dog to do it. But I guess if they are that close you’re fucked anyway
I mean that’s cool, but every criminal who’s fleeing justice now has this information. OpSec… c’mon Buck, you were a cop and SF
@@injuredoutdoorsman9011 dog handlers are aware of this and with the right dog and training they can get back on track, depends on the training yk
@@ray_pena_480 yeah, but 99.9% of the common criminals don’t know this.
I worked federal, state and local law enforcement before I was disabled in the of duty, and there’s some things/tactics that we should have discretion not to inform the public about…
Tyler Rake(Hemsworth in Extraction) was former SASR(Special Air Services Regiment), which is the Special Forces of the Australian Army. And he's been a black marker Merc for years. He's the toughest Aussie to ever put a shrimp on the barbie.
I read that "shrimp on the barbie" in the jim Carrey voice from dumb and dumber 🤣
Wait extraction is a true story?
He also moonlights as the God of Thunder from time to time....
@@controvercc1098 omg I did the exact same thing
Sean: You can take out 30 or 40 dudes just with a truck
Ukrainian viewers: *taking notes furiously
Ukrainians knew that since motor vehicles were invented. -- Even first world gamers would know this if they played any GTA game, where the number of pedestrians run down (on accident) is often higher than the number of people shot (on purpose)
Ukrainians will say, that out here any civilian's got hundred and ten ways in mind how to kill a russian paratrooper)))
And more than that, major number of Ukrainian civilians are right now in the military, specially trained to do it even more efficiently 😁
Darrell Brooks: "Hold my meth"
@@VanyaTheSlavic totally not the same... Initially Russians came to Ukraine with "professional" army, under contracts. Ukrainians totally went to army at the start of the war, many without any military experience. And in few months russians have lost major of this army and had to take new people. Including prison inmates in big quantities.
For Ukrainians it turned to holy war for their families and their homes, due to barbarian russian way of destroying civilian infrustructure and killing thousands of civilians, and in contra - for ordinary russian this war means nothing. No goals, no reasons, no sense.
@@taras9408found the bot
Oh, I’m glad that you brought up dogs.
Here is a tip from a guy that escaped prison three times.
Fill a sock with pepper. Then poke a small hole in the bottom of the sock. So when the dogs pick up your sent. They will start to sneeze and then refuse to follow the sent.
Drug smugglers use Cheyenne pepper for the same reason.
Story time on how u got caught twice to escape three 😂
@@MrCannon117 He had a trail of pepper leading right to him
@@MrCannon117 no it wasn’t me. It was a man named Bucky Johnson.
They made a documentary about him!
@@samueljackson6188 but thats just what you want us to think Sam
@@abunchofiguanaswithinterne2186he’s definitely playing it smart
It’s “the chair is against the wall”. It’s a nod to the movie the longest day and the encoded messages that were sent to the different cells of French resistance to let them know the invasion was coming. The most recognizable “Jon has a long mustache” Was similarly referenced in the original red Dawn
both of those lines were in the original movie.
@@slamdancer1720 “WOUND MY HEART WITH A MONOTONOUS LANGOUR”
48 hours to go…
I'm no military expert or anything but I worked in telecom power for many years and if you take out the power grid the civilian communications will follow very quickly. The cell towers do operate on line power but the equipment itself uses a rectifier to converto DC. There is battery power in case line power is lost but depending on the amp hour capabilities you have about eight to twelve hours, eight is the average to restore line power before they're gone and the tower and all the equipment goes down. This also applies to the tandems and central office equipment as well. Some COs have generators but they will last until the the diesel or natural gas is exhausted,, then batteries, then just like the towers it all goes down. Even the ones with natural gas lines, it takes line power to deliver the gas so......
I will tell you this, the degree to which telecom executives takes backup power ranges from don't give a shit because maintaining them cuts into the bossman's bonus to fanatic because they have already been bitten in the ass by major outages. So, and this is just my thinking, if I had the ability to down the power grid, I wouldn't worry too much about civilian communications because if the grid goes down civilian comunications will be spotty at best but mostly dead.
One caveat, 911 is on a different system with different power requirements and uptime metrics. 911 might still work to a certain degree a little longer. It will be useless forthe most part because in eight to twelve hours the front facing infrastructure such as cell towers will be without power and not functioning anyway. By the way, resotring power may not solve all the problems because quite a few COs have ridiculously old switches and if power is lost completely sometimes what is called "global configurations" are lost and it in essence bricks the switch and depending on how old it is it may be permanently.
If invaders take out line power....It will cause a domino effect that is hard to predict but there isn't a good scenario.
Paras would never just fall out the sky on top of a populated area like that. They'd land a couple of clicks away, kit up and then move in and take the town.
Yes but that wouldn't be as good for the camera. I agree it would've been fantastic to see them actually use proper military tactics such as not being an idiot but movies are movies so it has to look good. Though arguably seeing a bunch of planes fly over head without dropping paratroopers and then seeing a large ground assault with paratroopers and potentially light vehicles could deffo be pulled up in a cinematic way
Well N Koreans might actually use it that way 😆 🤣
@@danielpickrell8311 Tbf it sure isn’t out of the realm of possibility. My question would also be like… where’s the USAF? Where’s the SAM systems? It’s basically impossible to launch a surprise attack on the US. How’d the planes get there anyway? To my knowledge NK has no carriers and those aircraft probably can’t fly from NK to the US and certainly not back again
@@poseidon808
They will be allowed to come in. ! The southern border is currently WIDE OPEN !!! They are already here ! People from all over the world are entering the country !!!
If they dropped in with parachutes... people would be coming out of their houses for the biggest game of Duck Hunt live ever ! People would be shooting of guns and fireworks ... and drinking beer !!!
Love these beers & breakdowns! Also love how y’all share real actual knowledge/tips based on the clips from the movies! Love it, thanks guys! 🙏🏽🇺🇸
Our pleasure!
I’m glad this showed up. Much love to you guys and stay safe ❤️❤️❤️
appreciate it
Thanks for the valuable info, guys. I learn something useful with every video. Keep it up
Dude spot on about the knives on belt topic. I 100 percent agree!. I stopped doing that a long time ago, and now I wear a small fixed blade that hangs on the inside of my vest with the handle facing perpendicular to my right armpit. That way I can easily reach inside of my vest if I need it. The sheath clip sticks out on the front of my vest at the top center of the vest. I thought it would be an issue, but so many people think its for hanging a body cam on. Best camoflage ever for a knife, and I dont have to worry about someone targeting it.
I like how even when you guys are not talking about the movie I find the dialogue interesting.
Community is so important. I went through years of tactical military stuff in the service, my son was in Army combat arms, my nephew a SWAT guy. Great. That's three people. That means we die 3 minutes after everybody else. I preach to my son, we need community and comms or we're just a couple larpers with m16s. After the silk blooms that's not the time to develop a plan.
Best breakdown yet. Truly excellent.
Much appreciated!
“Purist” here….still enjoyed your video, much more real tactic info than I expected, way better than most movie review content I have seen on RUclips. Great job guys 🤙🏻
11:19 - It's actually a reference to the Movie "The Longest Day" which is about D-Day, "The chair is against the wall" is a message sent by Radio London to tell a french resistance cell to hit a prearranged target.
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love hearing you guys talk about movies and your experiences this is the second review of this movie ive seen and the one thing no-one has said anything about the kid in the police station changing his sling position three or four times in the cores of a minute and ready to strangle him self with it
I love how sauced you were but still hitting those facts
one hundred percent lmao
Even when not at your best, these guys have trained, trained more, and trained beyond until it's second nature. Glad to see that because when it gets thick and chaotic, you resort to your rehearsed training. Just impressive how tested SOF are in multiple scenarios.
You guys should make longer videos. Really enjoyed this one!
Noted!
“The chair is against the wall “ “ John has a long mustache.” Both used in WWII with the French Resistance. Was in both Red Dawn movies.
Hell of a week to pick Red Dawn fellas
right
Red Dawn (1984) was one of the first war movies I remember watching as a kid. The Cold War was in full gear at the time and I was scared of the Soviet Union attacking us either with nukes or by by invasion.
It's funny how when I was active duty I was always told, by higher ups, that firing upon parachutist is a violation of LOAC. Unless they fire first. Flip side, I was told, was that it's a violation of LOAC to fire while parachuting.
I didn't find out that that was incorrect until after I got out & looked it up myself.
It's you may not fire upon parachutist from aircraft in distress.
Which leads me to wonder, if 3 airborne troops jump out of a transport plane, 1 jumps out normally, 2 jumps as the plane takes fire, 3 jumps out as the plane loses control. Am I allowed to fire on all 3? 🤔
Yes, paratroops are exempt from this rule, which includes when exiting an aircraft in distress.
Typically flight crews are kitted out distinctly from combat troops (flight suits vs. fatigues, etc) which should be apparent at the effective engagement ranges of an individual infantry weapon
I love this type of video. Make more content beers and breakdowns please👏👏
More to come!
@@FNGACADEMY I know a guy that did the parachute jumps on that movie that would be willing to share pictures from set.
Ya got a bit toasty on this one buck! Lol! Great episode guys! Love and respect
yea... that whiskey got me
Absolutely love that universe theory
Crazy how red dawn actually happens in different countries
yup!
New favorite channel
What a ON TIME review!! 🤣
right!
Came for tips
Good info on why cops shouldn’t wear fixed blade knives, another one that use to drive me crazy with boots fresh out of the academy, was them wearing lock blades put in the front plate carrier pouch, where about a quarter of it was visible right above the the center of their uniform shirts. Would have to show them how easy it was to get that knife away from them and use it on them, before they realized it was no longer in their possession.
When I was a police officer the only knife I carried was a folding knife clipped inside my left pants pocket. I am right handed but my thought was if my right hand was trying to keep my gun from being taken, I might be able to pull the knife from my left pocket.
@@paladin11C40 unfortunately the hosts comment about fine motor skills going to shit affects the officer too. It is a question without any easy answer; what is best to have on you if a perp goes for a deadly piece of your kit. I think most switched on cops would say that you first need training and practice in ground skills because that will help whether you are in a fight over a weapon or not. But as for having a fixed blade knife or not I don't think it is so simple. Anything on your belt or carrier can be used against you by a desperate felon. Taser, flashlight, cuffs, pepper spray, folding or fixed knife, sidearm and/or back-up gun... Hell, they could brain you with your radio if that is all they can get their hands on. In the end I think the answer is more for each individual officer to decide and for them to remain aware of the risks of what they bring into every contact.
I like the remake, I am 49 years old, I own both of the movies. I like to think of the remake as more of a story of what was happening in Washington State while the original was in Colorado. Great video Buck.
I have a set of Gen 2+ PVS-7's, yes civilians do have night vision, I also have a IR laser sight on my rifle.
The future is now, man. Get some modern nods.
The chair is against the wall.
Edit: That was in the original movie. I believe the next line is- John has a long beard/moustache, something like that. It's been years, but those lines always got my attention when I was child watching the 80s Red Dawn.
The Chair is against the Wall:
John has a Long Mustache
As you guys are talking about paradrop, it made me think maybe That's a reason to prioritize cutting the power, so the troops don't get zapped when they clip power lines!
Yall need to show more of the movie and talk about it as it plays
Great timing!! WOLVERINES!!! You seem like a fun drunk! If we ever meet I'll buy you drinks in exchange for some tactics and war stories!!😂😂🤣👍👍
How did all of those airborne aircraft fly from “North Korea” to Seattle? 🤔
I think the broadcast maybe supposedly coming from an unoccupied area of the country was the thought. Code via broadcast radio was a British Special Operations Executive (SOE) thing of WW2 taking to the European resistance movement. Thanks for doing the break down. You all brought a whole different view.
At 8:25 is a compIetely different city. I live in Spokane, WA. Never seen that highway before.
Ayeee he did it!
Fun fact the original invaders for this movie was the Chinese but our ccp over lords wouldn’t allow it and forced the studio to change it to North Korea
I jumped both with my rifles on the backpack, hanging 5-6m below me - or, on my side. Depending on the mission, long range recce in the "wilderness", as was my "thing", the rifle was on the backpack. But we also practiced other things and jumped with the rifle on us. It worked quite good! I had something similar to an M4 and while I am quite short, I was never hurt by it. But there was one guy using what you guys call a SAW, that had the barrell hurt his calf... Kinda goughing it. Not sure why, he might have done something wrong or it was simply a higher risk with that weapon. (using the Para-model)
One thing I thought interesting was the Abn op happened during the day light. WWII occurred the night before the land invasion. Was this deployment because the NK had no night vision capabilities, and they couldn’t assemble in targets at night? Or, this was done just for cinematic reasons, to show the scale of the invasion and the ensuing chaos?
as a California resident I prefer to think of it as I’m operating behind enemy lines.
Wow, really cool info about dog tracking!
The radio signal was from free America, not in the occupied zones and the code was "The chair is against the wall" which is a call back to the original movie.
Sean is lit up! 🤤🍻
damn whiskey...
@@FNGACADEMY you were cuddling that bottle like it was a child! 😂
I never thought of that for getting away from dogs. I did get away from dogs. Long story I'll keep short. Did some stupid stuff in my younger days, and had the laws after me. There were dogs, and I just used a flow of water to get away. I couldn't say if they lost the scent, or I just got far enough fast enough, but it worked. They eventually caught me anyways. lol
I've been waiting for this one! The Original one is the only Red Dawn there is .. Patrick Swayze (RIP) & Charlie Sheen..(Tigers Blood) is the only faces of the Wolverine's! Not all of us Californians are planless! 😂 😂😂
Good one Boyz! 🤘🏼
thanks homie! OG on the way!
@@JulietActual 😂😂😂 Mybad
Same, this remake should have never been made.
This Ex-Californian had a plan. I GTFO of CA and live in the mountains in a free state.
If your “plan” isn’t to get out of California than you have no plan 😂jk brother
I can’t wait
Would love to see you breakdown Casualties of War.
i LOVE U 2!! fudging amazing!! :D
Good movie for green berets. Many people don’t understand the difference between them and seals and the unit but what’s going on in red dawn is the exact kind of thing SF does.
Like if same thing happened to another country we’d send them in and they would build an insurgencency from the ground up from scratch, but ultimately stay behind the scenes themselves
So was interesting to hear their take on a movie that depicts an op in their mo. Even if it was a pretty cheesy movie
The Unit would know to do the same as SF. The Unit, offically 1st SFOD-D;1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta,Aka Delta, most of their guys are former Green Berets and Rangers so would know SF Unconventional Warfare and Delta is even better at UW because they have more experience using foreign and non US weapon systems and non military training than regular SF ODAs would. That said all of that info is moot because Hemsworth is playing a Marine guy home on leave and would have some idea of UW and such tactics but I would say he did pretty well either way.
I carried a Cold Steel push dagger in my boot attached to my ankle with webbing, but never carried a knife on my duty belt though
Criticality, Accessibility, Recuperability, Vulnerability, Effect and Recognizability...
How long do you want that resource out of action.... Temporary - we're going to need it soon.... Permanent - want it gone forever
Great job you guys.
thanks homie
The remake has its charm. Nice to know about the dogs.
man i love these vids 😂😂😂😂
way more to come!
Fun little fact here:
This movie was filmed in Mount Clemens, Michigan. That's only a couple hours drive from where I grew up. Also, when I worked at a trash company, the guy that trained me ran, and probably still runs, a militia group (no, not the one that was in the news) and trains dogs. His 2 German Shepards were in the film as guard dogs. Also also, my wife has a high school buddy that will always pause on one scene because his pickup truck was parked on the street when they recorded the scene.
Halfway decent movie, I more like how they filmed it in my home state. But they should've stuck with yhe original enemy, which was a Chinese invasion.
tactical magazine. got to remember that one
Love both Red Dawns
we will do a comparison video too
Im subscribing to your channel because out of all the ex military and police force guys as much as I dislike cops you tell the truth and explain it well and debunk Bullshit
Did you guys just discuss CARVER in a movie review, amazing
In the original film the kids are listening to Radio Free America. "The chair is against the wall, the chair is against the wall. Sam has a long mustache, Sam has long mustache." Is a coded message to the resistance, however this before the kids start fighting back. I prefer the original version, it has a sense of time and packs an emotional punch.
Great work Buck, Joe approves of this message
LMFAO!!!!!!!!
😂😂😂
Love the original movie and haven't seen the remake. I just watched the original a little while ago and I kinda saw it a little differently but still the story is pretty good.
i tried to watch this movie and it was so very bad don't see it trust me.
Back then land line phone systems have large battery banks to back up the phone lines.
Good timing
Nothing will replace the original, but this one has gotten better with time
I'm still miffed by this movie goes supposed to take place in my hometown and not a single ounce of the scenery I recognized it was filmed in los Angeles
You guys never commented on the best part of the movie where their insurgency starts to get the upper hand and it shows the wolverines driving down the road with all these badass vehicles with like quad 50 cars and stuff mounted on top
My fav was the Ford Mustang with a static minigun mounted on the top.
I’m sure these guys use stuff like that all the time. Like rail gun arc flamethrowers mounted on dump trucks and stuff
The two hand slip cracked me up 😂
the final scene in the 2012 movie was fkn perfect the chaotic but patriotic charge US Flag held high and up front i looooved that
Great tip about the dogs, although the chances of me using it is probably zero.
6:43... He ain't lying, we're so Fucked.😂💀😂
"What do we doooo?"
Texas would be fine, Austin would be screwed.
lmfao!
Austin is a blueberry in a bowl of tomato soup.
15:30 I was working as a security officer, my boss would show up at work beautiful tied ties. I tried explaining to him that he needed to wear either a clip on or a breakaway because if he had to tumble with somebody once they had a hold on his tie he was a pup on a leash. He learned
One thing that always bugged me was there was no reason for the dad to remain down there. There was nothing he could do and it was inevitable he was going to be taken prisoner. In fact it created a liability because once they found out who the kids were, they tried to use the threat of his death to get them to surrender. I'm thinking a career cop would be more useful in guerrilla warfare than as a bargaining chip.
Or as a public servant, a sense of duty to the public he swore to protect, instead of running to the woods with his own kids. How did that work out for that police officer in the FL school shooting that stayed around the corner and never advanced? Your logic is valid, however that decision point to remain with his community is also commendable.
"the chair is against the wall" was one of the famous code to French Resistance and Jedburghs that the invasion was a day out
6:39 gave me a good laugh awesome video lol
Nice one guys... My question is how did the enemy get their vehicles on the ground so fast after the paratroopers showed up?
How did they get all those armored vehicles and tanks on the freeways and through the border without Any early warning?
The only way to do it for real would be to do some type of joint exercise, where the "friendlies" quickly and without notice become "hostiles." They would also need to control the media from the outset, which is not a stretch by any means.... 👍
Time to check the media's backgrounds....
you can airdrop ground vehicles as well via drop plane and parachutes or helicopter insertion
@@hari1240 Right, I remember Air Assault school. But maybe my memories' just fuzzy. I don't remember that in the movie. It was like bang, their on the ground already searching for rebels and they hadn't had one St. Maroglis type jumper hung up!
@@Captain-wc6vj Yeah they sure did get mobile fast, but in this case, hollywood magic can be used for a tactical advantage. Didn't know you were Airborne man, thank you for serving.
@@hari1240 👍
Well if you think about it with a full-on invasion, they wouldn't need to drop tons of equipment. America has all the armored vehicles that they would need.
I fuckin love this series.
thank you! more to come!
I was just hoping you'd cover the mini gun screwed to the roof of a mustang lol
How do you restrain someone ?
Some people aren't very good at coming up with solutions to problems or issues they may encounter.
When someone reaches from their firearm ... they will often try to grab the person's hand to pull it away which is not the best thing to do. If they already have their hand on your gun... you want to grab their wrist and keep the gun from coming out of the holster. Press their hand down on it and then put yourself in a position to move away.
Don't grab their hand and pull it away ... grab their wrist and keep their hand pressed down onto it. The trigger will be covered and you can control their hard until you are in a better position to put some space between you.
Could you guys finish the movie? I believe you guys have amazing insight, but would have loved to hear about more scenes.
ON the battle field like Swayze
They state it in the movie, RED DAWN (reboot) that Helmsworth character enlisted. Chet and Matty get into an argument and Matty resents Chet because he "left" and enlisted.
If you guys get the chance I along with others would like to see you guys do a breakdown of 6 Days. A movie about Operation Nimrod, the siege of the Iranian embassy by SAS ops.
Texas 🤘... California standing in front of the fan
If I seen enemy paratroopers I wld kiss my soviet era weapons saying soon you shall live agian after I raided the enemy for the 7.62X39 ammo lol
Damn, never thought about this detail about knifes.
i didnt until i was a cop
Only the two urban populations in California. Outside those yes very big zones, California is a lot of rural or just empty.
Need a red Dawn you two
on the way!
Love that movie
"The chair is against the wall" iconic red dawn code
yeah stow primary weapons - but also 'jump guns' ? crappy old AKs with an extended mag
Was thinking the same shit on a static jump. Drop like a sack, hope you don't receive fire, pray you don't break anything during PLF and then pick your 4th point of contact off the ground before someone calls points on human speed bumps
You wouldn't jump into a city, would you? You'd jump outside the city, reassemble, hook up with any airdropped vehicles, and then go attack.