As a biologist with a lab research background, this is fascinating and I don't see it as a failure whatsoever. You managed to capture mycelium inside the box. I'd mix up, rehydrate it with a spray bottle of distilled water and place it somewhere in dark moderate temperature to develop further. Not all colonies bloom fiercely. However, mold loves to spread and there's more than enough there to get something started. Thanks for sharing this process done in a traditional way.
I've been implementing this technique in redford michigan for years and I'm finally seeing result. The soil was destroyed in my area.. The salt every winter doesn't help at all. Huge obstacles to overcome.
@@WookofWallstreet It's great to hear that this method is fruitful. Your cold climate shortens the growing season, coupled with salt... It takes a lot of positive inputs to counter those concerns. Thanks for chiming in... There's lots of wisdom in these comment sections.
OMG, I GOT IMO!!!!!!!!!! went in the woods last week and followed all step..... I've now got biology!!!!!!! Dude You Are AMAZING. From my family to yours "HOAALOAH" 🙏
@@seanpereira83 I had the same thought. Is it so difficult to say the words? Especially from a teaching perspective, this is confusing. Further, I shouldn’t have to check all of his videos to find the terminology so I can understand another video. I like what he’s doing and sure want to learn about how to make it, but the acronyms drive me crazy.
Wonderful video chris. This is probably the most difficult product to get consistantly. Thats how nature works. Want to add something here. While you have demonstrated how to find natural leaf mold in the forest and collect it in the rice, many viewers would be wondering what to do if they have no access to forest leaf mold nearby. Our teacher taught us an alternative. 1. Drench the soil to be used for collecting IMO using LAB or rice wash water (this should be preferably under the shade of a tree) 2. Dig it a little (one or two inches) 3. Place the collection box in the shallow depression with cooked rice loosely spread out (You have shown this clearly in the video) 4. Cover the box with straw, leaves and other organic matter and wait for a few days till the fungal mycelia form. Its always worked!!!
@@annsiguenza9108 Its easy. Make LAB solution. Soak dry leaves in following for 24 hours. LAB:salt:brown sugar: water 5:1:3:1000 Keep it in shade, lid covered In 24 hours you will see lots of bubbling Longer soak is also OK upto 48 hours, or just wait till the bubbling dies down Remove the soaked leaves and keep in shady place covered with a sack to prevent moisture from evaporating, or just a plastic drum and cover the lid Within five days the leaves turn black and full of mold. You can use this mold to extract IMO-1. It works great This is the quickest way of making leaf mold.
@@DrVivek-ub6bf that is amazing. I am wondering if you know how KNF does in an arid environment. I am worried all the IMOs I try to introduce will just die from evaporation. Although, maybe they are adapted enough to go dormant till they get more moisture.
I've been loving everything you've been putting up on this channel, it has been some of the most clear and concise examples of Natural Farming that I've been able to find. Also love the motivational words. Keep it up! I know I'll be following along for the foreseeable future.
+MrMrgreenstuff awesome :) I am glad that you are enjoying them. Thank you for taking the time to encourage me :) there are a lot more videos to come :)
Chris, thank you so much for spreading the word and helping educate us about Korean natural farming! this is all amazing. my wife is korean and I love being able to connect with her culture on another level through KNF. Question: if I live in a suburban area, can I use leaf compost as a source for the mycelium? Thanks much
great video...I started all over my first IMO collection...this time I collect bamboo leaves and sorrounded my collection basket...I've seen the White micilium examples you've shown here I was hesitant to gather them and sorround my collection basket...my first collection I place it next to my coconut tree and covered with mulch...thanks again Chris...I will give you updates on my second collection I a couple more days...mahalo
Hi mate, excellent work, I just ADORE your cooking channel..😂😂😂 Just kidding, you're quickly becoming a reference point for translating on the large scale the "microbe farming" normally found for gardens or veggie patches. If I might be so bold to ask you a little favor, I have a hard time to translate in my mind all the acronyms you usually use while showing the how to; if you could just use them and explain them a couple of times in your vids, even I will get around it. Keep it up, you're good at it and very prepared. And thank you for teaching 👍🏻
+Marco Forti awesome man, I am glad you like it. I believe the principles behind these methods will help to change the world. I TOTALLY GET the difficulty with the acronyms, I am sorry to subject you to that :) I will get into the explanation videos soon and I think that will help. Blessings on your journey in KNF man :)
ya i'm witcha ..... the acronym soup is tiring.... and i work in network, so it ain't my first rodeo..... it seems to be a genX thing, u can sound like u know what ur talking about even if nobody else understands...... i'm blaming BEM's ......
It'll change the world once the current infrastructure crumbles. People see this and instantly think, forget that I'll go buy a bag of miracle grow. Until the poison brings humanity to the brink of extinction, they won't change.
Weekend plans: Saturday - fishing (mission accomplished), Sunday - Make a Cedar box/cage. Started my first LAB and a few FFJ's thanks to what I've learned from you.
Cosa Seed Co Chris can you please do a how to jadam sulphur and jadam wetting agent please sir love your content and what I'm learning from you thanks man
The best way I have found that it works is works and dry weather is place shredded leaves at the bottom and then wet them down. Keep the area moist. My box is covered in 3 days.
Question: I've been making IMO for a while, but I dind't understand why adding OHN and FPJ before cooking de the rice. The heat will destroy the OHN and FPJ, no? Does somebody knows why did he add OHN and FPJ before cooking? Anyways, Chris, you are the best, man!!! Cheers from Brazil.
I love this whole concept.will start doing this in my crappy florida sandy soil and see how it goes.my fpj is almost done and will move on to your other tricks of your trade.I have started- chaya -yucca- blue berrys - and dragon beans-. thanks so much for the great info.S.D.
I'm very glad i found your RUclips page. I look forward to seeing many of your videos. ART and BRI RUclips page helped me find you. my search tab text for this kinda stuff is more like "catching microorganisms with rice". I'm about halfway through this video and I need to watch it again with pen and paper. thanks for the videos.
Hey Chris. Thanks for the vid. For us newbies, It would be really helpful if you would say what IMO stands for as well as the other acronyms...FPJ, OHM, etc.
This may be a silly question - hopefully someone knows the answer. Is there any reason this process wouldn't work with soaked, but uncooked rice? Reason being, all that debris in the forest is raw and in a state of decay and is growing the fungal goodness? Does cooking merely speed it up or is there something else at play? Thanks!
Hi Chris, thanks for sharing. Have you or other KNF practitioners tried this technique with a grain that is indigenous to the US? Rice being indigenous to Korea may be the best where this is local, but how about wheat, barley, oats, and possibly a mix to increase the diversity of our substrate in temperate regions?
Intuitively I would think it wouldn’t matter much what the substrate is - the substrate is just serving as a medium for your imo it just happened to be rice cuz...korea
Can you tell us or at least point us to reference materials where we could know what biology is what color and what that means to our collection? I've tried to collect IMO1 and all my 10 collections either has different colored biologies (yellow, orange, pink) and some with the same color as yours, some with black, and my first try watered.
I've done this process also except we put the rice in an old pantihose and buried about 10 inches deep in the root zone of a very old growth maple tree, them break the rice down into a molasses mixture with some brown sugar and ferment for a couple weeks then strain and......very effective stuff in my garden and for my canabis plants. I also made one from a box I placed Among a reed thicket in a wet land area with the idea that diversity is key. So many ways to use this technology and I love the idea of food full of life. Life producing life , rather than dead soil producing monster food with monster chemicals. Mama nature knows best. Let's get to know her ways! Praise to the CREATOR in the highest. Silly Adam......stop telling that ground and tend it.
The fermentation is done without aeration, correct? I’m a bit concerned that the mixture might be anaerobic instead of aerobic. Your input is greatly appreciated
@@bluejay3945 it will be anaerobic. The difference if the good bacteria will over take the bad if done correctly. The best way to tell is by the smell. If it smells putrid, not good. If it smells sweetish and not terrible good. When your making the seed stock, the stuff in the rice or whatever substrate tou are using the prepopulated bacteria is what your after, which is already going to be a beneficial balance evidenced by the health of the old growth or whatever surrounding it. It's not too difficult to tell. I have had some batches go bad but it's super obvious when it does. It usually has a very bad smell.
Hey Chris, just discovered KNF and I'm blown away. Grew up with many natural farming methods but this tops them all. I'm in!!! I have one question that is concerning me. Maybe I'm overthinking this but... I'm in Central California at an elevation of about 3000 ft. At his level the forests are really full of Amanita Phalloides. Death Cap mushrooms. They like the oak trees. The forest is mixed. If I am collecting from this area are these death caps a problem? Should I go higher up into the pines? The area I am in is very rich in mycelium.
hey man. I just took my IMO1 from the bamboo forest. my IMO was greenish white. not sure if it was because I used white corn (cooked) instead of rice. I left another container but using rice instead.
Thanks for sharing this video but for many us that doesn't know anything about Korean Natural Farming, all these acronyms make us feel lost...............
If you dont have forest areas where you could leave your rice , would it work if you take a box of the material from the forest to inoculate the box in your own garden. Where you can take care of it.
Dear Mister ! Tell me please ,what are 2 substances that you added into rice before cooking ? What are the roles of these 2 substances ? Thanks in advance ! From Ping Song , Cambodia !
Hi Chris , just want to start by thanking your for taking the time to do these videos , i watch them all there all great , and pretty well instructed wish some day i could have a mentor like you haha , anyway im pretty much new in all that organic growing and still trying to figured lots of stuff out , but my question today is . does IMO or EM have mycorrhizal fungi ? im not quite undestanding the difference here.. Keep on farming :)
can you get lactobacillus from whey that's strained off of yogurt? I'm left with a bunch of whey after I make my yogurt...curious as I can't find a definitive answer
+chill 22 yes, that is generally LAB, however if you are using a yogurt 'seed'/inoculant then it isn't "indigenous", there is a strength from collecting and indigenous strain for use in the garden/farm.
i am new to not only this channel but to the usage of abbreviations. will someone reach out and guide me to any video's to learn the 101 side of things?
Brilliant Chris, I live near forests here in Ireland, would the temperature help with growth as its definitely damp here and its starting to warm up for summer?
finally took my first collection. It wasnt perfect because i didnt put security around my collection pot, so the squirrels knocked it over i beieve. still had 24g of usable material. already mixed it one to one with brown sugar. can i now take that and put it in a tea, or do i have to make I.M.O. 3 first?
Loved the video. I have one question. I'm using my worm castings to make the IMO1 and ended up twice now with at least half of it black mold. I threw away the first batch, and am wondering if I have to throw the second one away too?
+Chris Coombs you are American. It is our tendency to 'improve' or make it easier. The thing is, your worm castings have nothing to do with the process of IMO1-2... if you want to use those then just skip IMO1-4 and apply vermacompost to your garden... If you make up a process name it the 'Coomb process' :) Its just not Natural Farming. There are parts of what is being accomplished in this process that you don't understand. Changing it without understanding, makes it kind of pointless to follow it at all. The key we are going for is the diversity of nature. What has been create in the soil ecosystem (the soil food web) over a hundreds years of being undisturbed is really valuable. If you can get that established in your crop land it will be to your advantage for disease resistance and abundant production. What diversity does your worm bin have? Only what is on the material that you personally have added since you started it... enjoy the journey man :)
Hey chris! first of all, thank you so much. you are a wealth of knowledge and i love to learn! second of all, i live in the north east and am trying to begin to get my inputs ready for the spring. much of it can be prepared inside and away from the cold, but my question is about IMO1. can i collect imo1 when it is 30 degrees outside?
Aloha koobydeh, yes, go find some mycelium in your wild environment and grow it out in some rice indoors :) I hope this helps, let me know if that answers your question :)
Hi Chris, I love your work. Thanks a lot for this great videos that you share with a world. One question, is it OK to post few pictures of your work on my web site? I would love to promote this great knowledge in Serbia and i would like to write about IMO and whole procedure of making it. So I was planing to snip few pictures from your RUclips Chanel and post together with a text. Let me know if is ok, or not. I would understand if you say no. Thanks for everything you are doing.
Wouldn't cooking the rice with LAB and FPJ kill the beneficial microorganisms in the LAB and FPJ? Have you tried applying it after the rice has been cooked?
Chris ... my wife and I are so excited to start KNF ... we are going to try to do it as container gardening. We are a bit overwhelmed with all the processes and have watched all your videos... is there an order that we apply FPJ, IMO, LAB, etc. How can we apply this awesome way of gardening from scratch and in containers ... we have tried to find more info, but you seem to be most thorough on the subject ... are there any books on the subject, we haven't anything... thank you for all you are doing.
+David Smith Cho Han-Kyu is the initiator of this method. He has two books, hard to find them though... there is some university of Hawaii information also. I am working on getting more available :)
Hello Chris these are great video's first time starting my IMO 1, we have old coastal live oak trees that i used for my location, my rice after 4 days has aerobic biology and basket was still warm but ants have moved in. Q. Throw it out or use it? I'm going to use it and see the outcome. Any help on keeping ants out of the rice?
+Norman Sanday IMO is just a way of taking natures biology and seeding our soil. You will have to experiment. I.e. Does your variety like a fugally dominated, a bacterially dominated soil, or a balanced soil... Hope that helps man. Feel free to ask more questions.
Ok cool im about to buy a 350 acre land here in Fiji, Ill be trying your techniqes on the land. Ill be growing Kava root. Hopefully using IMOs will make my kava the best in the pacific. This information is priceless, thanks a lot champ.
Hi Chris. I recently tried this method as my first try. I didn't have a wooden box, so I used a Thai sticky rice wicker container. I"m in Thailand, so it is 26 degrees celcius these days. After 5 days, I have dark green powdery (mold?) all over the top, but no whiteness. What am I doing wrong?
I can find forest mycelium. I seem to have heard that lettuce (greens) grow better with a bacteerial culture collected inthe same way from bamboo or pampas grass. Would the mycelium be identifedthesamewayfor pampas grass?
You’re really a beast at collecting IMO. What are signs of poor collection? //for the 2nd time in a row I’ve discovered deep greenish grey, spots of yellow, and pink// First time was too moist. Second time I thought I nailed it No sure... I’m just a realtor who loves gardening and trying to advance my soil health like Chris Trump’s orchard! 🤓
that greyish blackness is OK? I threw out a bunch just like that, because I thought greyish/black was no good???? great videos. thank you for taking time to making them.
Hi Chris it's been a while and this is a different topic all together but the pacific northwest as well as the north east made this 2018 a big problem with "mold" and "pm" 'powdery mildew' so I was wondering if you can provide some KNF solution to prevent and or attack such problem. I have used milk and water and while it works on shrubs may not work in produce....will love your feeback on this issue. I use Karanja Oil and ✋ the neem. Will you make a video on this issue. Thank you greatly.
hey chris. its not easy to get raw brown sugar. Brown sugars they sell is molasses added refined white sugar which is much more expensive than white sugar... So my question is instead of using that can i use liquid molasses for imo 2? if i can then is ratio remains 1:1? Thanks.
Hey Chris, thanks for the Video. Up to now i was convinced EM is the shit, but man this is so much cooler. Please im not native speaker what was the stuff in the beginning you put into the rice before cooking. I could not figure out. thanks and best wishes. Tovia
@@biomei.solutions dind't understand why adding OHN and FPJ before cooking de the rice. The heat will destroy the OHN and FPJ, no? Should I add it after cooked?
If you get a perfect collection couldn't you just continuously feed it (preserve like a 1/4 of it) and use it to produce more perfect collections which will in turn save you the travel time and also increase the odds of a perfect collection?
Eventually your culture would domesticate. Seperate perfect collections would provide a better diversity. If you want to grow out your collection to apply it to a bigger area, just advance through the IMO2-IMO4 process or LIMO
Hi Chris, a big thank you for all these great videos you're sharing! I am super excited to start KNF though a bit overwhelmed. I've one main Q regarding getting started. Our land in Hillsboro, OR is almost wetland, and its probably not going to stop raining till the end of june. the PDF manual says dont collect during the rainy season (ours is almost 9 months long) and makes a mention of bringing materials into a greenhouse to collect IMO. can I collect IMO from our land, maybe from mycelium growing in arborist woodchips ive been spreading here for years? im hoping i can collect samples from a few different spots and bring it into my greenhouse to start the collection. It seems if I go 200m up in elevation i'd be in a completely different habitat than our land.
+Dustin Marsau it is my pleasure to help you get started with these videos. Your question is great. You are on the right track with your plan. Grab some from 500' higher as well as that on your land. Use both. Let me know how it goes for you. :)
So for a standard rice cooker , the rice to water ratio is 1:1.5 (1c rice to 1 1/2 c water) so for this one I would probably use 1c rice to 3/4c water 👍
Excuse me is it the OHN that can be used as the pesticide? had a friend telling me yesterday that nano copper would kill fungi in the soil and can be toxic to humans if ingested.
The master asked the group to dig up a patch untill they can observe some red wriglers... 'Ok, if you use your magnifying glass and observe them closely... Some of them are collecting IMO1 and some of them are spreading IMO5'
But won't the cooking process kill all the micro-organisms in the FPJ and the OHN that was added to the rice(4.15) BEFORE cooking it? Generally high heat is used for disinfection by killing bacteria, viruses fungi etc. Can somebody shed some light on this. Thanks.
this is all fascinating and i'm getting into this as though my life depends on it but however, how do you know that your not also cultureing breath and skin microbes? thank you
Hey there Chris. I wanted to ask about IMO collection in a desert environment. I live in the Mojave Desert where the soil is just dry sand. Is it possible to do an IMO collection? Would it be better to collect material from a forest to do an IMO collection at home? I sent a message on IG but I know those can get hidden sometimes. Thanks a bunch!
Hi Chris, sorry if this has been asked but does the colour matter? I was expecting somewhat pure white fuzzy growth but some of it showing in the video is much darker, what are "bad" colours?
@@biomei.solutions I'm watching l. Your my man. I'll be in touch. My background? Degree in plant and soil science. You just rejuvenated my career as it tanked. Golf. I'm see this opening up like crazy with urea, ammonium nitrate an the rest being obsolete if this works at scale. Sorry. I'm not into pulling by hand though. I've been doing foundation repair for the last 15. Both shoulders are done. And my back. But I can run crews. Like a 🏆 Theresa guy who does KNF and has 3silent entries in cannabis cup tournament's. But we know what that means. Why do i say this? I'm tired of learning from people who are not understanding balance or TAO. He never suggested i keep it inside to metabolize and wake up? I'm going to make you my guy. I interviewed 4. 3 heavy hitters and one joke.
I've been making my imo1 with leftover fully cooked rice. After it's been in the fridge for 3 or 4 days, it is pretty dry and crumbly, and leaving it out on the counter for another few hours helps it dry out a little more. We eat parboiled long grain rice, and it doesn't have the tendency to get gummy anyway. It seems to work fine for making imo1 and it's a good way to use up leftover rice. Does anyone here know of any disadvantages to using fully cooked rice that I'm not aware of?
As a biologist with a lab research background, this is fascinating and I don't see it as a failure whatsoever. You managed to capture mycelium inside the box. I'd mix up, rehydrate it with a spray bottle of distilled water and place it somewhere in dark moderate temperature to develop further. Not all colonies bloom fiercely. However, mold loves to spread and there's more than enough there to get something started. Thanks for sharing this process done in a traditional way.
I've been implementing this technique in redford michigan for years and I'm finally seeing result. The soil was destroyed in my area.. The salt every winter doesn't help at all. Huge obstacles to overcome.
better at field capacity , imo you needed more time and darkness.i grow magic mushrooms its fun ,
@@WookofWallstreet It's great to hear that this method is fruitful. Your cold climate shortens the growing season, coupled with salt... It takes a lot of positive inputs to counter those concerns. Thanks for chiming in... There's lots of wisdom in these comment sections.
@@busyrand went a step above and added mycelium from grow stores and mushroom kits.
Hey! May I ask what you do in your lab setting?
OMG, I GOT IMO!!!!!!!!!!
went in the woods last week and followed all step..... I've now got biology!!!!!!!
Dude You Are AMAZING. From my family to yours "HOAALOAH" 🙏
Anyone know what OHN & FPJ are?
@@seanpereira83 check his videos on how to make them, fpj = fermented plant juice, ohn = oriental herbal nutrient
@@elijahwu4168 what is IMO?
@@rhb30001 indigenous micro organisms
@@seanpereira83 I had the same thought. Is it so difficult to say the words? Especially from a teaching perspective, this is confusing. Further, I shouldn’t have to check all of his videos to find the terminology so I can understand another video.
I like what he’s doing and sure want to learn about how to make it, but the acronyms drive me crazy.
Wonderful video chris. This is probably the most difficult product to get consistantly. Thats how nature works.
Want to add something here.
While you have demonstrated how to find natural leaf mold in the forest and collect it in the rice, many viewers would be wondering what to do if they have no access to forest leaf mold nearby. Our teacher taught us an alternative.
1. Drench the soil to be used for collecting IMO using LAB or rice wash water (this should be preferably under the shade of a tree)
2. Dig it a little (one or two inches)
3. Place the collection box in the shallow depression with cooked rice loosely spread out (You have shown this clearly in the video)
4. Cover the box with straw, leaves and other organic matter and wait for a few days till the fungal mycelia form.
Its always worked!!!
Nice alternative! i'm gonna give it a try as soon as I can :D
I’m in a part of Texas that has nothing but sand, I was wondering how I’d access leaf mold.
@@annsiguenza9108 Its easy. Make LAB solution. Soak dry leaves in following for 24 hours.
LAB:salt:brown sugar: water
5:1:3:1000
Keep it in shade, lid covered
In 24 hours you will see lots of bubbling
Longer soak is also OK upto 48 hours, or just wait till the bubbling dies down
Remove the soaked leaves and keep in shady place covered with a sack to prevent moisture from evaporating, or just a plastic drum and cover the lid
Within five days the leaves turn black and full of mold. You can use this mold to extract IMO-1. It works great
This is the quickest way of making leaf mold.
@@DrVivek-ub6bf not soak too long.. ya want arobic fungi not anarobic (your probably aware just newbies to understand the difference)
@@DrVivek-ub6bf that is amazing. I am wondering if you know how KNF does in an arid environment. I am worried all the IMOs I try to introduce will just die from evaporation.
Although, maybe they are adapted enough to go dormant till they get more moisture.
I'm completely sold on all of this . You are a great teacher and break everything down beautifully. "Who cooked this rice ..." Lmao
hi there, lots of abbreviations, where can I find the terms to follow what is being said please
I agree
My wife makes perfect IMO Rice she's a natural lol
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Your very funny🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I've been loving everything you've been putting up on this channel, it has been some of the most clear and concise examples of Natural Farming that I've been able to find.
Also love the motivational words.
Keep it up! I know I'll be following along for the foreseeable future.
+MrMrgreenstuff awesome :) I am glad that you are enjoying them. Thank you for taking the time to encourage me :) there are a lot more videos to come :)
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Chris, thank you so much for spreading the word and helping educate us about Korean natural farming! this is all amazing. my wife is korean and I love being able to connect with her culture on another level through KNF. Question: if I live in a suburban area, can I use leaf compost as a source for the mycelium? Thanks much
great video...I started all over my first IMO collection...this time I collect bamboo leaves and sorrounded my collection basket...I've seen the White micilium examples you've shown here I was hesitant to gather them and sorround my collection basket...my first collection I place it next to my coconut tree and covered with mulch...thanks again Chris...I will give you updates on my second collection I a couple more days...mahalo
Thank you for teaching me so much. My gardens are organic permaculture living entities now. This is work worth doing with no chemicals.
Hi mate, excellent work, I just ADORE your cooking channel..😂😂😂
Just kidding, you're quickly becoming a reference point for translating on the large scale the "microbe farming" normally found for gardens or veggie patches. If I might be so bold to ask you a little favor, I have a hard time to translate in my mind all the acronyms you usually use while showing the how to; if you could just use them and explain them a couple of times in your vids, even I will get around it.
Keep it up, you're good at it and very prepared.
And thank you for teaching 👍🏻
+Marco Forti awesome man, I am glad you like it. I believe the principles behind these methods will help to change the world. I TOTALLY GET the difficulty with the acronyms, I am sorry to subject you to that :) I will get into the explanation videos soon and I think that will help. Blessings on your journey in KNF man :)
ya i'm witcha ..... the acronym soup is tiring.... and i work in network, so it ain't my first rodeo..... it seems to be a genX thing, u can sound like u know what ur talking about even if nobody else understands...... i'm blaming BEM's ......
It'll change the world once the current infrastructure crumbles.
People see this and instantly think, forget that I'll go buy a bag of miracle grow. Until the poison brings humanity to the brink of extinction, they won't change.
Just Google them. They pop right up
You rock, Chris! Thanks for teaching and encouraging us all to take our first steps on the path of KNF!
+Cosa Pharms you are most welcome! Now get out and try it ;)
Weekend plans: Saturday - fishing (mission accomplished), Sunday - Make a Cedar box/cage. Started my first LAB and a few FFJ's thanks to what I've learned from you.
Cosa Seed Co Chris can you please do a how to jadam sulphur and jadam wetting agent please sir love your content and what I'm learning from you thanks man
Cosa Seed Co he is doin some amazing thing that's for sure
Interesting... I will be glad to have more of your works
The best way I have found that it works is works and dry weather is place shredded leaves at the bottom and then wet them down. Keep the area moist. My box is covered in 3 days.
What I love about Chris is that he tells you the truth
Do others lie about KNF? Curious. I hate misinformation.
Question: I've been making IMO for a while, but I dind't understand why adding OHN and FPJ before cooking de the rice. The heat will destroy the OHN and FPJ, no? Does somebody knows why did he add OHN and FPJ before cooking?
Anyways, Chris, you are the best, man!!! Cheers from Brazil.
Chris Trump = American Badass!
This is absolutely wonderful info! Well orchestrated video as well! For anybody watching, set it to 1.75x speed, you'll thank me later
Too sslow i did the same. Time is precious.
I love this whole concept.will start doing this in my crappy florida sandy soil and see how it goes.my fpj is almost done and will move on to your other tricks of your trade.I have started- chaya -yucca- blue berrys - and dragon beans-. thanks so much for the great info.S.D.
+Steve's Outdoor World you are most welcome man :) enjoy the journey!
thanks Chris
I'm very glad i found your RUclips page. I look forward to seeing many of your videos. ART and BRI RUclips page helped me find you. my search tab text for this kinda stuff is more like "catching microorganisms with rice". I'm about halfway through this video and I need to watch it again with pen and paper. thanks for the videos.
dont talk too loud the rice will hear you
Hey Chris. Thanks for the vid. For us newbies, It would be really helpful if you would say what IMO stands for as well as the other acronyms...FPJ, OHM, etc.
IMO - indigenous micro organisms
OHN - oriental herbal nutrients
FPJ - fermented plant juice
BRV-brown rice vinegar
SW - sea water
FAA- fish amino acids
LAB- lactic acid bacteria
Look up "how to: IMO" it's another Korean farming tech
@@De_Angel_trades TYVM, but that’s the title of this video.
Hey Chris. Can I put the box in my wood chip pile. Lots of mycelium there, or is there more diversity in the forest?
This may be a silly question - hopefully someone knows the answer. Is there any reason this process wouldn't work with soaked, but uncooked rice? Reason being, all that debris in the forest is raw and in a state of decay and is growing the fungal goodness? Does cooking merely speed it up or is there something else at play? Thanks!
Thanks Chris.....Darth Vader here. I use to build golf courses and maintain them. Great video. Thanks
Hi Chris, thanks for sharing.
Have you or other KNF practitioners tried this technique with a grain that is indigenous to the US? Rice being indigenous to Korea may be the best where this is local, but how about wheat, barley, oats, and possibly a mix to increase the diversity of our substrate in temperate regions?
Intuitively I would think it wouldn’t matter much what the substrate is - the substrate is just serving as a medium for your imo it just happened to be rice cuz...korea
What is OAN?
If I’m in the city and can’t find any mycellium covered leaves or bark can I go straight to the box with rice that has OHN & fpj?
Can you tell us or at least point us to reference materials where we could know what biology is what color and what that means to our collection? I've tried to collect IMO1 and all my 10 collections either has different colored biologies (yellow, orange, pink) and some with the same color as yours, some with black, and my first try watered.
I've done this process also except we put the rice in an old pantihose and buried about 10 inches deep in the root zone of a very old growth maple tree, them break the rice down into a molasses mixture with some brown sugar and ferment for a couple weeks then strain and......very effective stuff in my garden and for my canabis plants. I also made one from a box I placed Among a reed thicket in a wet land area with the idea that diversity is key. So many ways to use this technology and I love the idea of food full of life. Life producing life , rather than dead soil producing monster food with monster chemicals. Mama nature knows best. Let's get to know her ways! Praise to the CREATOR in the highest. Silly Adam......stop telling that ground and tend it.
The fermentation is done without aeration, correct? I’m a bit concerned that the mixture might be anaerobic instead of aerobic. Your input is greatly appreciated
@@bluejay3945 it will be anaerobic. The difference if the good bacteria will over take the bad if done correctly. The best way to tell is by the smell. If it smells putrid, not good. If it smells sweetish and not terrible good. When your making the seed stock, the stuff in the rice or whatever substrate tou are using the prepopulated bacteria is what your after, which is already going to be a beneficial balance evidenced by the health of the old growth or whatever surrounding it. It's not too difficult to tell. I have had some batches go bad but it's super obvious when it does. It usually has a very bad smell.
I am not handy enough to make a mesh box to put the wood box into. Could you give a short video on how to assemble the mesh box and the wood box?
Hey Chris, just discovered KNF and I'm blown away. Grew up with many natural farming methods but this tops them all. I'm in!!! I have one question that is concerning me. Maybe I'm overthinking this but... I'm in Central California at an elevation of about 3000 ft. At his level the forests are really full of Amanita Phalloides. Death Cap mushrooms. They like the oak trees. The forest is mixed. If I am collecting from this area are these death caps a problem? Should I go higher up into the pines? The area I am in is very rich in mycelium.
hey man. I just took my IMO1 from the bamboo forest. my IMO was greenish white. not sure if it was because I used white corn (cooked) instead of rice. I left another container but using rice instead.
+Marvi Rafael Montecillo great job getting started man! Keep on putting care into it and you will definitely succeed :)
Thanks for sharing this video but for many us that doesn't know anything about Korean Natural Farming, all these acronyms make us feel lost...............
Lol, I love how he whispers its like ... shhhh if I talk loud it will deflate like a soufle
mind blowing video. also good touch making sure you come back to see the final results
If you dont have forest areas where you could leave your rice , would it work if you take a box of the material from the forest to inoculate the box in your own garden. Where you can take care of it.
Dear Mister !
Tell me please ,what are 2 substances that you added into rice before cooking ? What are the roles of these 2 substances ?
Thanks in advance !
From Ping Song , Cambodia !
Hi Chris , just want to start by thanking your for taking the time to do these videos , i watch them all there all great , and pretty well instructed wish some day i could have a mentor like you haha , anyway im pretty much new in all that organic growing and still trying to figured lots of stuff out , but my question today is . does IMO or EM have mycorrhizal fungi ? im not quite undestanding the difference here.. Keep on farming :)
I live in zone 9b. Incredibly arid desert with very few long living plants. Any suggestions on how i could harvest leaf mold adapted to my area?
I’m here cause of Mr.Grow it! Nice
How fresh does the rice have to be? Can I make it say tonight for tomorrow? Or sunday
can you get lactobacillus from whey that's strained off of yogurt? I'm left with a bunch of whey after I make my yogurt...curious as I can't find a definitive answer
+chill 22 yes, that is generally LAB, however if you are using a yogurt 'seed'/inoculant then it isn't "indigenous", there is a strength from collecting and indigenous strain for use in the garden/farm.
Can I do this in my backyard and still produce good fungi and microbes
Hi , Wow its great . You think its possible to make it with all yams ? With sugar cane skin dry in pieces in addition to leaf scraps?
I have a question about closing it with a papertowel. Are the IMOs that small that they can get through the pores of a papertowel?
Great video, have been waiting for this one some time now.
glad that you like it :)
i am new to not only this channel but to the usage of abbreviations. will someone reach out and guide me to any video's to learn the 101 side of things?
Brilliant Chris, I live near forests here in Ireland, would the temperature help with growth as its definitely damp here and its starting to warm up for summer?
finally took my first collection. It wasnt perfect because i didnt put security around my collection pot, so the squirrels knocked it over i beieve. still had 24g of usable material. already mixed it one to one with brown sugar.
can i now take that and put it in a tea, or do i have to make I.M.O. 3 first?
could you use pantyhose material instead of paper towels for the top lid portion? was thinking that material might be a little longer lasting?
Loved the video. I have one question. I'm using my worm castings to make the IMO1 and ended up twice now with at least half of it black mold. I threw away the first batch, and am wondering if I have to throw the second one away too?
+Chris Coombs you are American. It is our tendency to 'improve' or make it easier. The thing is, your worm castings have nothing to do with the process of IMO1-2... if you want to use those then just skip IMO1-4 and apply vermacompost to your garden... If you make up a process name it the 'Coomb process' :) Its just not Natural Farming.
There are parts of what is being accomplished in this process that you don't understand. Changing it without understanding, makes it kind of pointless to follow it at all.
The key we are going for is the diversity of nature. What has been create in the soil ecosystem (the soil food web) over a hundreds years of being undisturbed is really valuable. If you can get that established in your crop land it will be to your advantage for disease resistance and abundant production.
What diversity does your worm bin have? Only what is on the material that you personally have added since you started it...
enjoy the journey man :)
@@biomei.solutions so you're saying add leaf litter to the worm bin got it 👌
Hey chris! first of all, thank you so much. you are a wealth of knowledge and i love to learn! second of all, i live in the north east and am trying to begin to get my inputs ready for the spring. much of it can be prepared inside and away from the cold, but my question is about IMO1. can i collect imo1 when it is 30 degrees outside?
Aloha koobydeh, yes, go find some mycelium in your wild environment and grow it out in some rice indoors :)
I hope this helps, let me know if that answers your question :)
It would be cool if you explained the abrrevated things like FPJ and OHN. I have no idea what those are.
Hi Chris, I love your work. Thanks a lot for this great videos that you share with a world. One question, is it OK to post few pictures of your work on my web site? I would love to promote this great knowledge in Serbia and i would like to write about IMO and whole procedure of making it. So I was planing to snip few pictures from your RUclips Chanel and post together with a text. Let me know if is ok, or not. I would understand if you say no. Thanks for everything you are doing.
Wouldn't cooking the rice with LAB and FPJ kill the beneficial microorganisms in the LAB and FPJ? Have you tried applying it after the rice has been cooked?
what if the visible biology youre trying to capture doesnt want rice? wood loving fungi for example?
Chris ... my wife and I are so excited to start KNF ... we are going to try to do it as container gardening. We are a bit overwhelmed with all the processes and have watched all your videos... is there an order that we apply FPJ, IMO, LAB, etc. How can we apply this awesome way of gardening from scratch and in containers ... we have tried to find more info, but you seem to be most thorough on the subject ... are there any books on the subject, we haven't anything... thank you for all you are doing.
+David Smith Cho Han-Kyu is the initiator of this method. He has two books, hard to find them though... there is some university of Hawaii information also. I am working on getting more available :)
Hello Chris these are great video's first time starting my IMO 1, we have old coastal live oak trees that i used for my location, my rice after 4 days has aerobic biology and basket was still warm but ants have moved in. Q. Throw it out or use it? I'm going to use it and see the outcome. Any help on keeping ants out of the rice?
If we just have a small garden and want to add the beneficial microbes could we in theory apply the rice with the mycelium under the mulch?
What about partially-cooked brown basmati rice in women’s knee-highs? Can it be buried in the soil, or does it need to be above-ground?
Good day, sir. My IMO1 has many colours, red, green, blue, white and black. Are all of them are good fungi? Thanks in advance
I grew mostly green mold and some white, is it usable, I would appreciate any feedback, my first time😁
Living in the tundra and the snow has started to come but its fall so it melts quick. Is it possible for me to harvest mycelium right now?
I live in a hot dry area of Texas... I never find any of the spider webbing... any suggestions?
if possible , please share the JADAM's organic farming inputs like JMS, JLS etc.
+Anu B I will get to those too :)
Im growing organic weed, do you think IMO will bring out the weeds full potential?
+Norman Sanday IMO is just a way of taking natures biology and seeding our soil. You will have to experiment. I.e. Does your variety like a fugally dominated, a bacterially dominated soil, or a balanced soil... Hope that helps man. Feel free to ask more questions.
Ok cool im about to buy a 350 acre land here in Fiji, Ill be trying your techniqes on the land. Ill be growing Kava root. Hopefully using IMOs will make my kava the best in the pacific. This information is priceless, thanks a lot champ.
Hi Chris. I recently tried this method as my first try. I didn't have a wooden box, so I used a Thai sticky rice wicker container. I"m in Thailand, so it is 26 degrees celcius these days. After 5 days, I have dark green powdery (mold?) all over the top, but no whiteness. What am I doing wrong?
I can find forest mycelium. I seem to have heard that lettuce (greens) grow better with a bacteerial culture collected inthe same way from bamboo or pampas grass. Would the mycelium be identifedthesamewayfor pampas grass?
why put it ontop of the paper towl and not just right on top of the rice? is there a reason?
What if you can't leave a collection box in an area that's "wild"? Can I use storebought mycorrhizal fungi?
You’re really a beast at collecting IMO. What are signs of poor collection?
//for the 2nd time in a row I’ve discovered deep greenish grey, spots of yellow, and pink//
First time was too moist.
Second time I thought I nailed it
No sure... I’m just a realtor who loves gardening and trying to advance my soil health like Chris Trump’s orchard! 🤓
that greyish blackness is OK? I threw out a bunch just like that, because I thought greyish/black was no good????
great videos. thank you for taking time to making them.
Hi Chris it's been a while and this is a different topic all together but the pacific northwest as well as the north east made this 2018 a big problem with "mold" and "pm" 'powdery mildew' so I was wondering if you can provide some KNF solution to prevent and or attack such problem. I have used milk and water and while it works on shrubs may not work in produce....will love your feeback on this issue. I use Karanja Oil and ✋ the neem. Will you make a video on this issue. Thank you greatly.
I got green and black fluff in mine with what looked like orange powder on top. Is that ok?
hey chris. its not easy to get raw brown sugar. Brown sugars they sell is molasses added refined white sugar which is much more expensive than white sugar... So my question is instead of using that can i use liquid molasses for imo 2? if i can then is ratio remains 1:1? Thanks.
Hey Chris, thanks for the Video. Up to now i was convinced EM is the shit, but man this is so much cooler. Please im not native speaker what was the stuff in the beginning you put into the rice before cooking. I could not figure out. thanks and best wishes. Tovia
+Trapper Tovi thank you for the encouragement man :) Your English is great. I used FPJ and OHN. See my videos on making these.
@@biomei.solutions dind't understand why adding OHN and FPJ before cooking de the rice. The heat will destroy the OHN and FPJ, no? Should I add it after cooked?
I am able to get a colony in my kitchen when i forget my rice left overs. can that be used as well?
Do you spray cage with vinegar first to get rid of old fungi that might live on it
Do you know if Bokashi composting is compatible with KNF? I believe it is an anerobic process so that makes me wonder.....
If you get a perfect collection couldn't you just continuously feed it (preserve like a 1/4 of it) and use it to produce more perfect collections which will in turn save you the travel time and also increase the odds of a perfect collection?
Eventually your culture would domesticate. Seperate perfect collections would provide a better diversity. If you want to grow out your collection to apply it to a bigger area, just advance through the IMO2-IMO4 process or LIMO
If you are targeting a species you want to grow would it be best to get imo from the plants suspected evolutionary habitat?
Hi Chris, a big thank you for all these great videos you're sharing! I am super excited to start KNF though a bit overwhelmed. I've one main Q regarding getting started. Our land in Hillsboro, OR is almost wetland, and its probably not going to stop raining till the end of june. the PDF manual says dont collect during the rainy season (ours is almost 9 months long) and makes a mention of bringing materials into a greenhouse to collect IMO. can I collect IMO from our land, maybe from mycelium growing in arborist woodchips ive been spreading here for years? im hoping i can collect samples from a few different spots and bring it into my greenhouse to start the collection. It seems if I go 200m up in elevation i'd be in a completely different habitat than our land.
+Dustin Marsau it is my pleasure to help you get started with these videos. Your question is great. You are on the right track with your plan. Grab some from 500' higher as well as that on your land. Use both. Let me know how it goes for you. :)
So for a standard rice cooker , the rice to water ratio is 1:1.5 (1c rice to 1 1/2 c water) so for this one I would probably use 1c rice to 3/4c water 👍
Cool stuff man. How about the black dota? Do we remove then? Or is it safe to keep?
Excuse me is it the OHN that can be used as the pesticide? had a friend telling me yesterday that nano copper would kill fungi in the soil and can be toxic to humans if ingested.
Some says blackish and brown colour is not good for using.? Is it right
Could you use landscape cloth instead of paper towel
Awesome ! I’m gonna try this ...I was wondering would this be if any benefit to try and do this say in your front yard or back yard ?
If rice is over cooked, Put rice in the refrigerator on a cookie pan overnight and the next day you will be able separate the granules
The master asked the group to dig up a patch untill they can observe some red wriglers... 'Ok, if you use your magnifying glass and observe them closely... Some of them are collecting IMO1 and some of them are spreading IMO5'
But won't the cooking process kill all the micro-organisms in the FPJ and the OHN that was added to the rice(4.15) BEFORE cooking it? Generally high heat is used for disinfection by killing bacteria, viruses fungi etc.
Can somebody shed some light on this. Thanks.
Exactly what I was wondering.
why is the mycelium greenish and black. shouldn't it be white and thick like the samples you found in the forest?
this is all fascinating and i'm getting into this as though my life depends on it but however, how do you know that your not
also cultureing breath and skin microbes? thank you
Well you could technically. But the hope is all the good microbes from the forest will take over and over populate those other microbes
Great video! Hate to say it but I love this Trump!
Hey there Chris. I wanted to ask about IMO collection in a desert environment. I live in the Mojave Desert where the soil is just dry sand. Is it possible to do an IMO collection? Would it be better to collect material from a forest to do an IMO collection at home? I sent a message on IG but I know those can get hidden sometimes. Thanks a bunch!
Besides white, I so had gray and yellow mycelium growing inside.
are those bad or good ones?
Hi Chris,
I just wanted to ask if this technique (KNF) is only for certain climates? Would this be possible in canada?
Thanks.
Hi Chris, sorry if this has been asked but does the colour matter? I was expecting somewhat pure white fuzzy growth but some of it showing in the video is much darker, what are "bad" colours?
Chris I'm in a transition zone and it's Nov. Can I get imo started at these temps? Thanks. I'm a learner.
You would need to bring the leaf litter to a warmer space with the rice. Like a heated garage or a house
@@biomei.solutions I'm watching l. Your my man. I'll be in touch. My background? Degree in plant and soil science. You just rejuvenated my career as it tanked. Golf. I'm see this opening up like crazy with urea, ammonium nitrate an the rest being obsolete if this works at scale. Sorry. I'm not into pulling by hand though. I've been doing foundation repair for the last 15. Both shoulders are done. And my back. But I can run crews. Like a 🏆 Theresa guy who does KNF and has 3silent entries in cannabis cup tournament's. But we know what that means. Why do i say this? I'm tired of learning from people who are not understanding balance or TAO. He never suggested i keep it inside to metabolize and wake up? I'm going to make you my guy. I interviewed 4. 3 heavy hitters and one joke.
I've been making my imo1 with leftover fully cooked rice. After it's been in the fridge for 3 or 4 days, it is pretty dry and crumbly, and leaving it out on the counter for another few hours helps it dry out a little more. We eat parboiled long grain rice, and it doesn't have the tendency to get gummy anyway. It seems to work fine for making imo1 and it's a good way to use up leftover rice.
Does anyone here know of any disadvantages to using fully cooked rice that I'm not aware of?
Perhaps picking up colonies from your house/fridge in the days before use? Cant imagine any other issues.
Great video buy whay is OHN and FPJ?