Now I already have the spacers and the dotmakerthing, so it would be no problem to make more dice with different materials. What materials would you like to see? Also check out my Patreon page for more, it will get more active soon: www.patreon.com/c/randomtechnician?view_as=patron
When I was in high school my teacher told me that lathe is probably the only machine that can build another machine. Now I actually believe that. Great lathe work!
If you have a lathe and a mill you can make anything! I have a laundry list of things to buy that aren’t needed but nice to have if / when I get my family into a house Grill, table saw, router, circ saw, lathe, mini mill
@@rem45acp i use to have both in my garage a 8 foot lathe and a bridgeport milling machine dammit i miss them they were another family members property they decided to sell them off it killed me
using spacers are fucking genius... I mean... begin of video i had no idea why spacers needed.... when i saw it how to use it, i was like WOW... this guy is smart.
If you’re planning on making more of these I would recommend making the copper pins first. That way when you drill the holes in the cube you can keep it in the chuck and countersink it, press the pins with each hole, then face it at the end. You probably wouldn’t want to heat the cube with a torch while it’s in the machine, but if you turn the diameter of the pins down they’ll go in much easier. This turned out great and it definitely opened my eyes more to the art side of machining rather than manufacturing. Great build!
I'm thinking that with a few days of handling, the copper will start to tarnish nicely and (To my eyes) give a much more aesthetically pleasing contrast to the mirror polished steel.
The difference is not that big, stainless steel 8g/cm3 copper 9g/cm3. So the weight of a copper dot is around 0,084g and the removed stainless steel is 0,074g. The complete die should have something around 20g.
@@randomtechnician Indeed. However, the dice mass is not strictly homogeneous having the copper inserts and It would be interesting to see over a coulple of hundred thousand tosses what is the actual bias of this dice and see whether it is biased towards the 6 and compare that to a simulated random tosses to see if they were in the same ball park.
I had to make one as part of my apprenticeship in Germany all the way back in the 70's! It was bigger, the dots were brass, and it mounted on corner to a round base, I of course also had to make. Oh, and less machine use, as we had to be able to do things by lesser means if need be. They had us filing metals for 3 months straight, to high precision and accuracy, complex radii and all!😠 It was like a ride through Blisterville, but having those skills, especially in sculpting have come in handy, and served me well, and others too when I saw them doing it all wrong, and needing way more time than had they known all of the ins and outs in detail, so I showed them. Some of the stuff is counter intuitive to many (maybe most) people.
I made a pair of dice out of ebony using some plastic rods I reclaimed out a kitchen utensil display. The more you round off the corners the more action you get from each die. They are about the size of the dice used on craps tables in Vegas. It was a fun project. It took me two tries to get the things right.
Помню у нас в 90 х еще..один пацан на станке сделал 8 кубиков из стали... И даже точки подсверлил на них.... И через каждый один бросок все 8 кубиков ложились 6 ками к верху.... Потому что единицы были на противоположной стороне.
I made a set out of stainless that were 1 inch square. They would dent a table. I didn’t make them out of round stock however, flat stock and a cnc mill. Another shop I worked at, we made some out of .125” sheet metal that were 3 inches square. Used a cnc punch to make the holes in the sheets, and had our welding apprentice weld them up for practice.
Looks awesome! However, from the usability perspective it has some flaws. Copper has 3 times higher density than aluminum and thus the die will tend to land on 6 dots face. From the craftsmanship standpoint - great work!
Cool project.. although dice are more like a sphere with flat sides. Since the dots can't be flush, why not make them concave.. they'd be green with time. :)
Por increíble que sea hacer un dado que vaya mas alla de la estética es extremadamente complejo. En este caso es literalmente precioso, lastima que no sirva para mas que mostrarlo o para jugar en casa. Pregunta simple ...como sabes que no pesa mas de un lado que del otro?
Copper is a lot softer than Stainless, when you use polishing compound on a rag the copper will wear away a lot quicker resulting in a recessed copper dot/s
Tho i like the effect in this particular instance, the way to avoid/minimise this is to sand it to a very high grade (2000) on a hard flat surface before polishing. Sandpaper for wet sanding on glass works vell. put water between the sandpaper and glass to 'glue' it down.
Надо бы вершины срезать, чтобы кубик не скакал, а катился. Вон же, есть правильные образцы игральных кубиков. Иначе, его слишком просто бросать с программируемым результатом.
It would be an iteiguing challenge to make other types of die, trying to factor out how to fabricate a d20 with a lathe would be an awesome vit to watch
Would have been so much easier using a mill to make the square and then drill and ream the holes. Then I would have installed the copper and turned the sides on a lathe for the finish. I would have chamfered the edges on a mill and not with a file to make it more uniform. But hey, I’m just a manual machinist who’s been running these machines for 30 years.
Обратите внимание на цвет нержи , мало никеля . Та же 12 х 18 н 10 т гораздо желтее . Что то похожее на распростанённый сейчас аиси 304 . У нас на производстве такая даже от пара в 2 атм разрушается , замучились дырки варить .
I don't understand why you heated the cube up. Sure, it will expand while it's hot, but you then show yourself holding the cube with bare fingers so you must have let the cube cool (and shrink) back down.
Might just be me viewing it on my phone, but I have a really hard time reading those dice. Maybe you could hit them with some kind of solution that oxidizes the copper to make it stand out more.
Было мне 15 лет, устроили меня на работу, в то время зашла к нам одна игра в кости, тысяча называлась, забавная игруха, а кости был такой дефицит что днём с огнём не найти, и пришлось на предприятии сделать их, делал из многих материалов в том числе и таких как в ролике, не помню сколько сотен я их переделал так как в игре задействованно 5 штук,, а друзей было куча, так что я на этом собаку с то ел и её шубой закусил, и это не имея в тот момент никаких навыков, только желание быть модным парнем,, а было это каких то 30 лет назад, а вроди позавчера😢
Yes, i think i will make another one or two with different materials. Maybe the copper will become darker in some days. I will post an update if that happens.
Ist aber V2a, täuscht auf dem Thumbnail, sieht man auch beim fertigen Würfel, durch das Schleifen und Polieren sind die weicheren Kupferpunkte leicht versenkt
Dice , Die & Dice’s are all singular & plurals for dice ….. Just like discus , disci & discuses are also singular & plurals . Cheers 🍻 , Woody , NZ 🇳🇿 .
Not so. Die is singular and dice is plural. Common usage has caused the singular form - die, to not be used very often but that doesn't change the rule. As for your second example, also not so. Discus singular, discusses and, less often disci, plural. Maybe NZ English differs from British English in this respect but I doubt it.
Now I already have the spacers and the dotmakerthing, so it would be no problem to make more dice with different materials. What materials would you like to see?
Also check out my Patreon page for more, it will get more active soon:
www.patreon.com/c/randomtechnician?view_as=patron
Platinum, Gold, Silver, Bronze to complete the set..
A Yahtzee zealots wet dream...
Титан
I think you should reverse which is which to make a set so copper block and steel pins. I'm not sure if copper is too soft for tha, though.
Is it possible for you to make a rubik cube?
@@raymond9290I‘ve been planning this for a while 🤫
When I was in high school my teacher told me that lathe is probably the only machine that can build another machine. Now I actually believe that. Great lathe work!
If you have a lathe and a mill you can make anything! I have a laundry list of things to buy that aren’t needed but nice to have if / when I get my family into a house
Grill, table saw, router, circ saw, lathe, mini mill
@@rem45acp i use to have both in my garage a 8 foot lathe and a bridgeport milling machine dammit i miss them they were another family members property they decided to sell them off it killed me
I love the fact you mechanically bonded the metals.
I like how the (i assume) copper dots aren't flush with the rest of the pruduct due to sanding and them being softer, gives it nice little detail
Can you balance test it though?
I'm thinking about how I should do that for an accurate result
@@randomtechnician They generally use a tool called a "dice balancing caliper".
@@jimmy_kirk Thank you very much! Maybe I will build one in the next Video
please throw dice at least 50,000 times and check randomness. Maybe a six is more likely than a 1, if copper is assumed to be denser than steel.
Как предмет искусства - супер, как игральная кость - плохо. Она попросту не будет перекатываться из-за острых граней
using spacers are fucking genius... I mean... begin of video i had no idea why spacers needed.... when i saw it how to use it, i was like WOW... this guy is smart.
Thank you very much!
This is incredibly creative! The final result is absolutely stunning. Amazing work!
Thank you very much!
If you’re planning on making more of these I would recommend making the copper pins first. That way when you drill the holes in the cube you can keep it in the chuck and countersink it, press the pins with each hole, then face it at the end. You probably wouldn’t want to heat the cube with a torch while it’s in the machine, but if you turn the diameter of the pins down they’ll go in much easier. This turned out great and it definitely opened my eyes more to the art side of machining rather than manufacturing. Great build!
Thank you very much!
If it goes easy it comes out easy
It's actually a best way to heat the cube so that it comes back to it's original size when cooled
turned out awesome, now to make a brass one with aluminum dots!
Thank you, challenge accepted
@@randomtechnician if you do it, really be neat to see if the weight difference (assuming same size) affects rolling momentum
Did you care that opposite faces must always sum 7?
@@radhikatommaso873 Of course
I'm thinking that with a few days of handling, the copper will start to tarnish nicely and (To my eyes) give a much more aesthetically pleasing contrast to the mirror polished steel.
I will post a image if that happens
Very nice job, but I wouldn't take it to Vegas, to try if it works 🙃
Yes, its a bit heavy 😅
@@randomtechnician on one side.... :D
The difference is not that big, stainless steel 8g/cm3 copper 9g/cm3. So the weight of a copper dot is around 0,084g and the removed stainless steel is 0,074g. The complete die should have something around 20g.
@@randomtechnician Indeed. However, the dice mass is not strictly homogeneous having the copper inserts and It would be interesting to see over a coulple of hundred thousand tosses what is the actual bias of this dice and see whether it is biased towards the 6 and compare that to a simulated random tosses to see if they were in the same ball park.
@@liverpudd306 Since the copper is more dense, I'd expect the 6 to wind up face down and the 1 to come up more often.
Les dés en métal, c'est toujours très stylé, et quand on l'a fabriqué soi-même, c'est top !
I had to make one as part of my apprenticeship in Germany all the way back in the 70's! It was bigger, the dots were brass, and it mounted on corner to a round base, I of course also had to make. Oh, and less machine use, as we had to be able to do things by lesser means if need be. They had us filing metals for 3 months straight, to high precision and accuracy, complex radii and all!😠 It was like a ride through Blisterville, but having those skills, especially in sculpting have come in handy, and served me well, and others too when I saw them doing it all wrong, and needing way more time than had they known all of the ins and outs in detail, so I showed them. Some of the stuff is counter intuitive to many (maybe most) people.
Beautiful artwork, i wish i could have one.
Thank you!
Great video and clever use of the lathe and spacers. I'm sure Quinn would have done most of it on her mill after the first cut on the lathe.
I made a pair of dice out of ebony using some plastic rods I reclaimed out a kitchen utensil display. The more you round off the corners the more action you get from each die. They are about the size of the dice used on craps tables in Vegas. It was a fun project. It took me two tries to get the things right.
Помню у нас в 90 х еще..один пацан на станке сделал 8 кубиков из стали... И даже точки подсверлил на них.... И через каждый один бросок все 8 кубиков ложились 6 ками к верху.... Потому что единицы были на противоположной стороне.
Так по правилам и должно быть. Сумма противоположных сторон всегда должна быть равна 7.
Так по правилам и должно быть. Сумма противоположных сторон всегда должна быть равна 7.
@@llihyp9292 только точки полагается наносить краской
Очень красиво.
Вы сделали то, чт я хотел сам давно сделать. 😅
* a die
pedantry aside, thats super nice!
Thank you, you are right 😅
How was this person being pedantic? When machining things like this, details are a must. Did you just learn this word?
Awesome work. I want a set.
I made a set out of stainless that were 1 inch square. They would dent a table. I didn’t make them out of round stock however, flat stock and a cnc mill. Another shop I worked at, we made some out of .125” sheet metal that were 3 inches square. Used a cnc punch to make the holes in the sheets, and had our welding apprentice weld them up for practice.
Nice job turned out beautiful. The ss ones I made were electro polished. Fun stuff!
Красота!!! Но лучше было бы не до конца делать куб, а оставить скруглённые грани, получилось бы как белые кубики, симпатичнее.
Дело не в красоте! А дело в физике. Он будет катиться хуже из-за не скругленных граней и углов.
Good job, now, plus 4!😂, you can do it!!!
Maybe 😅
Looks awesome!
However, from the usability perspective it has some flaws.
Copper has 3 times higher density than aluminum and thus the die will tend to land on 6 dots face.
From the craftsmanship standpoint - great work!
It‘s stainless steel, not much difference in density. Thank you!
Excellent work
Very nice work, i wouldn't have the patience for dice
What a perfectly made 👌
You should make the edges of the cube way more rounded. Nice trick with the spacers.
Seu trabalho ficou lindo!
Só achei que ficou com pouco contraste entre os materiais utilizados.
Parabéns‼️😏👍
Your editing is on point 👍🏻
Thank you very much, i put a lot of time in this
Das sieht sehr sehr gut aus!
Vielen Dank!
Cool project.. although dice are more like a sphere with flat sides. Since the dots can't be flush, why not make them concave.. they'd be green with time. :)
Very nice.
Bro that's satisfying ❤❤
Made a very great dice ❤
Por increíble que sea hacer un dado que vaya mas alla de la estética es extremadamente complejo. En este caso es literalmente precioso, lastima que no sirva para mas que mostrarlo o para jugar en casa.
Pregunta simple ...como sabes que no pesa mas de un lado que del otro?
¡Gracias! El acero inoxidable y el cobre tienen un peso similar, pero también construiré un medidor para estar seguro.
I would definitely buy a pair.
It's beautiful. I know that it would be expensive, but imagine a dice made with damascus steel and dots made of blue anodized titanium.
Lot of work, but efffect is stunning.
Great vid!
This editing is so much more satisfying than sped up footage. What language calls it grid?
My language 🤣😅. Sorry for the wrong word.
Super satisfying.
Thank you 😋
Amazing work
Thank you!
The contrast between the copper and the steel is not that good. Drops of paint in the holes would have been better. Anyway, nice work.
It’s a fully metal die that would defeat the purpose of the video
I thought that was a weird banana at first
Well, the cube definitely gave you an 5😊
Beautiful. Copper dice with stainless inserts? Aluminum dice with unobtainium inserts?
Mind showing us a balance test with this dice?
I'm thinking about how I should do that
I swear I thought that was a banana in the thumbnail. So that's how my day is going.
🤣
Hmmmm do you want a banana? 😏
What a talent
I think you need make more rounded corner for more rolling...
Why did the copper end up recessing at the end?
Copper is a lot softer than Stainless, when you use polishing compound on a rag the copper will wear away a lot quicker resulting in a recessed copper dot/s
yes, i like the effect with the slightly deeper dots
@@Bobs-Wrigles5555 did not realize it would be so significant. It does have a nice effect too.
Tho i like the effect in this particular instance, the way to avoid/minimise this is to sand it to a very high grade (2000) on a hard flat surface before polishing.
Sandpaper for wet sanding on glass works vell. put water between the sandpaper and glass to 'glue' it down.
That was clever!!
8:23 that one felt like, fuk it let's just get it done 😆🤣
Beautiful!
Nice one 👍🏼
this the type of machining video that makes me think i can do this lol creating hand made things that are machine assisted and hand finished.
Надо бы вершины срезать, чтобы кубик не скакал, а катился. Вон же, есть правильные образцы игральных кубиков. Иначе, его слишком просто бросать с программируемым результатом.
Nice work, but is it balanced?
I will test it in the next video
It would be an iteiguing challenge to make other types of die, trying to factor out how to fabricate a d20 with a lathe would be an awesome vit to watch
Would have been so much easier using a mill to make the square and then drill and ream the holes. Then I would have installed the copper and turned the sides on a lathe for the finish. I would have chamfered the edges on a mill and not with a file to make it more uniform.
But hey, I’m just a manual machinist who’s been running these machines for 30 years.
Nice but how did you balance it
Next video 😉
Сумма противоположных сторон = 7. Шестерка тяжелее единицы. Кости будут врать.
режущая пластина из какого сплава? какой геометрии? очень она мягко у тебя нержавку режет!
Они такие: www.paulimot.de/Drehen/Wendeschneidplatten/PVD-TiAlN-beschichtet/2609/HM-Wendeschneidplatte-WCMT050308-TiAlN
Я обычным ВК8 режу не заморачиваясь.
Вопрос лишь в скорости резания.
Ну и чтобы кромки были достаточно острые.
Обратите внимание на цвет нержи , мало никеля . Та же 12 х 18 н 10 т гораздо желтее . Что то похожее на распростанённый сейчас аиси 304 . У нас на производстве такая даже от пара в 2 атм разрушается , замучились дырки варить .
You should have used heat to expand the cube or cold for shrinking the copper to fit the copper into the cube.
I used heat for the cube. Because the copper is so soft I pressed it into the cube without further machining.
Why ? His method was perfect he didn't need a comment like this unless your Die looks better perhaps.
The copper can be molten right?
yes
Super, i like it
El truco de usar los espaciadores para buscar el centro de los puntos es brillante
Merci !! cet inox est facile a usiner !!
Merci, c'était simplement un morceau de V2A de ma boîte restante
@@randomtechnician merci de l info !!!
I don't understand why you heated the cube up. Sure, it will expand while it's hot, but you then show yourself holding the cube with bare fingers so you must have let the cube cool (and shrink) back down.
It was relatively cold in the workshop, so i heated it up a bit to support the mechanical connection. Just about 40degree C.
Might just be me viewing it on my phone, but I have a really hard time reading those dice. Maybe you could hit them with some kind of solution that oxidizes the copper to make it stand out more.
The copper has already begun to turn dark
very pretty and super shiny....cool end result with a full house (I think) I know its Yahtzee lol
Yes you are right, the full house was a nice surprise 😄 Edit: Of course it is a straight sorry for the confusion
@@randomtechnician you couldnt have had a better result ...nice one..and thanks for confirming that.
This is a straight. A full house is two of one thing and three of another, like 2, 2, 3, 3, 3.
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n cool thanks for the info...Whats your favourite sort of Bacon?
@@TalRohan crispy and non-turkey
You will get better results on tight fit that rods you put them into liquid nitrogen before inserting in the holes
Yes, but unfortunately my liquid nitrogen was empty this day 😅
@@randomtechnician :)
Было мне 15 лет, устроили меня на работу, в то время зашла к нам одна игра в кости, тысяча называлась, забавная игруха, а кости был такой дефицит что днём с огнём не найти, и пришлось на предприятии сделать их, делал из многих материалов в том числе и таких как в ролике, не помню сколько сотен я их переделал так как в игре задействованно 5 штук,, а друзей было куча, так что я на этом собаку с то ел и её шубой закусил, и это не имея в тот момент никаких навыков, только желание быть модным парнем,, а было это каких то 30 лет назад, а вроди позавчера😢
Why not start with stainless bar stock?
The round bar was in my leftover box an the dimensions were good for the dice
Very cool and looks awesome…. There’s no way that it’s not loaded somewhere though.
Best way to start with square rod isn't it?
Too easy ;)
very nice
u r genius
It's quite hard to see the number of dots on it though. Maybe you can try with some other metal instead of copper?
Yes, i think i will make another one or two with different materials. Maybe the copper will become darker in some days. I will post an update if that happens.
重量バランス的に1が出やすいと思うけどどうなんだろうか？
差はそれほど大きくなく、ステンレス鋼は 8g/cm3、銅は 9g/cm3 です。したがって、銅のドットの重量は約 0.084g で、取り除かれたステンレス鋼は 0.074g です。完成したダイは約 20g になるはずです。これは大きな違いにはならないと思います。
@@randomtechnician アルミじゃなくてステンレスですか？
見た感じがアルミに見えました
もっとも、密度差があったとしても加工精度誤差以上の有意差が出るのかは不明だけど
バランスズレによる出目の差があるのか気になっただけです
Awesome !
Thank you!
@@randomtechnician :)
5:59 why did I die to this 😂
🤣
Full Metal Dicechemist
You need a vertical mill !
I have one 😅
Na, das sieht aber eher nach Alu aus anstatt nach Edelstahl...
Ist aber V2a, täuscht auf dem Thumbnail, sieht man auch beim fertigen Würfel, durch das Schleifen und Polieren sind die weicheren Kupferpunkte leicht versenkt
If I gambled with those I would only bet SNAKE EYES 😅
Anyone else think for just a moment that the copper cable in the thumbnail was a really messed up banana ?
I prefer hollow point dice but nive video!
为什么抛光后铜点好像低于铝平面？
它是不锈钢，铜较软，在研磨和抛光过程中被去除更多
I'm surprised you used the lathe for the holes rather than a drill press.
ale ty tak na poważnie nie odróżniasz , stali nierdzewnej od aluminium?
Ale to jest stal nierdzewna, obraz podglądu jest trochę mylący
Why u fit copper wire in dice whithout copper wire it is also good
Nice work although the dots are bearly visible. Also not a balanced die, so only for decorative purposes, which is perfectly fine, of course
Dice , Die & Dice’s are all singular & plurals for dice …..
Just like discus , disci & discuses are also singular & plurals .
Cheers 🍻 , Woody , NZ 🇳🇿 .
Not so. Die is singular and dice is plural. Common usage has caused the singular form - die, to not be used very often but that doesn't change the rule. As for your second example, also not so. Discus singular, discusses and, less often disci, plural. Maybe NZ English differs from British English in this respect but I doubt it.
Soak it in something that makes the copper tarnish green
Это просто охуительно!))