I don't think I have ever been so mesmerized by a video with literally no narration! The skill that goes into this is amazing. I'm sure everyone involved takes great pride in doing their job to perfection.
These are used for official documents I imagine not just office memos. When I was in Japan in 1999 with my students we carved our own from soapstone. The process of creating such beautiful and exacting seals was fascinating to observe. Thank you!
@@expioreris My Dan Certificate in Soo Bahk Do has both one of the Chinese Signatures and a Western one. It took me a while to realize what it actually was :)
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why did they start with pencil and then go to ink and then scan and redo it in svg? why not just start with svg using modern tools? It isn't like they benefit from the pencil and ink: it is redone using digital scanning and tracing anyway. This workshop isn't spending extra time to achieve the highest level of precision and quality, they are just following the steps and hoping that tedium translates to perceived quality. I've got zero complaints about the machining though. That was bang on.
@@acmhfmggru I suspect that the ink drawing is part of the package given to the owner plus, hand drawing will likely introduce slight variations that carry through to the finished piece despite being digitized.
Absolutely amazing. Such perfect work, taking something so historically important into the future. The detail give such respect to the family and owners name. Just marvelous!
At ~$1100 these cost less than I expected. It saddens me to see that so many people don’t value craftsmanship like this anymore. Using perfectly made, purpose-built tools like these are extremely satisfying- and a joy to use every day. The folks at the MIRAIN factory and the ones developing these machines can be proud of themselves.
What time period are you imagining where people were more appreciative of computer aided electrical discharge machining? don't get me wrong these are super neat stamps, and they also make some really cool metal puzzles, but they are all essentially expensive toys with absurdly precise tolerances. I'm actually baffled that with their very expensive equipment, this is what they are using it for...like how does that business model work? Is this just a side business to keep these very expensive machines running at capacity when they aren't getting orders for precision machined components? It seems a little bit like sending your Michelin star chef to the McDonalds down the street to make fries on slow nights.
@@urchinsea6297 Thank you for your reply. This is a seal. In Japan, we still use seals instead of signatures on documents. Also, for official documents, we use seals registered with the government office and attach a seal certificate.
@@urchinsea6297 I understand. Thank you for letting me know. Japanese seals were introduced from ancient China 2,300 years ago. In Japan, seals have been used for authoritative purposes since ancient times. This continues in modern Japan, but in the future, signatures may become mainstream.
This is such a symbol of Japanese engineering. Over-engineering the design and manufacturing to the highest quality while the product is outdated, and not used any more by the rest of the world.
In the 1980s the rest of the world was fascinated by the trend in Japan to just 'find' expensive ways of consuming. This is a great example, of turning tradition into a massively expensive modern caricature of the original solution to a problem that no longer exists. So VERY Japanese. GREAT engineering, pointless exercise.
It's like the germans and their engineering of vehicals... They are wonderful vehiclaes but they are so over engineered that they break a lot and are a pain in the ARSE to fix when they do
Sure, most of the world doesn't use seals, but it's still very commonly used in asian countries, as these are often used to sign off on personal documents. While most are very standard stamps, some families might get a really fancy one made to have as a family heirloom, such as having them carved from jade. This video shows off a very nice fancy machined one. If it's a family heirloom, might as well go all out.
@@SilvaDreams Except this would be more in line with Japanese vehicles, highly engineered, attention to detail, and a reputation for long-lasting reliability
A hotplate that converts to a grill might be cool for a tiny apartment, seen this metal cutting tech for a long time but first time seeing it solve a problem: ease of cleaning! and ease of cleaning is generally ignored, with all sorts of tiny unreachable nooks and crannies in everything usually, so this is great
Didn't even realize I was sitting here for a whole 16 minutes all open mouth breathing because of how good this video was. I hate myself but this was amazing.
yea it is, although a lot of people think that perfectly-fitting pieces like these are actually cut from a single piece of material and that the cut line is just that thin when its reality its 2 pieces that are just very accurately cut and fit together perfectly.
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The final print with paint, its absorption into the paper and spreading around the perimeter, negates the initial accuracy of the print. To reproduce a print, printing with a large error in size is sufficient.
@@firstmaster100 Did you even watch the first like, 15 seconds of the video? They literally test it on paper and the lines are so clean and precise that it even has the tiny bumps on the lines in the design. If that isn't extremely accurate then I don't know what is LOL
@@recilinceYou are taking my words out of context, distorting the essence. I did not say that the tool was poorly made, only that the liquid paint print can be faked using another tool that has significant deviations from the original high-precision one.
@@recilinceTo put it simply, it is not the instrument itself that is copied, it is the impression that is copied, but because of the method of application it does not require such an identical instrument. Demonstrating precision by turning a design into a smooth surface is more of a publicity stunt and has nothing to do with the uniqueness of the print. It's like comparing a laser and an inkjet printer. Do you understand the difference in the result and the reason for this?
more of a flex than useful item. Rubber stamp does the same just costs 10 instead of 1000. Of course if there is a market for "flex" its not wrong to provide it. I also don't understand people who spend thousands on wrist watches when you have time on smartphone
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The machining tolerance, precision, attention to detail, beauty & polish is likely the best I've ever seen- I have machining experience & I have made gauge blocks precise & mirrored enough, that if you pressed them together, one side would stick to the other just from how good the tolerances were, but to make something like this I believe it would carry a greater sense of pride with it. That said, if this is a CEO thing or something fine, but if it's something like an inspection or government seal, the cost seems overly prohibitive, especially for the taxpayers. It seams eccentric rather than practical, unless it happens to be near impossible to counterfeit.
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Es excelente diseño y construcción para un sello, los felicito. Pero, ¿Podrian gastar menos agua en el proceso de fabricación? Gracias y saludos muy cordiales.
Does that method can clean up internal mechanisms as well? I think to entirely clean it up, you have to disassemble the stump even with the cleaning oil.
@@priceostia6292 It won't clean perfectly, but it should remove anything that feels sticky in the moving parts. I'd be too afraid of breaking it to take it apart. Edit: If the oil can't get to an internal piece, neither can anything else.
What I was thinking is not about sticky sensation. When deeper section gets stuffed with old inks, friction level gets higher and more, eventually would get stuck. That’s why I was writing “I hope it’s cleanable for an enduser”.
Wow, that is some precise engineering and tools! We're looking at thousandths of millimeters being machined at some points! And just the attention to care of assembly of the seal! This must be made for only those that are very important or wealthy. I can't imagine that even if common Japanese people need their seals for all sorts of reasons like document signing and official forms, to have a seal THAT well crafted is mind blowing! Most people's seals are just no more than a rubber stamp nowadays!
I have no need for one of these, I detest putting my name to anything, but I nevertheless want one. This is a thing of beauty, and the process of making it is fascinating.
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I don't think I have ever been so mesmerized by a video with literally no narration! The skill that goes into this is amazing. I'm sure everyone involved takes great pride in doing their job to perfection.
Turn on Closed Captions
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This video made me spend a lot longer on the toilet than I expected
lol
😮
lmao
That's what yt shorts are for.
Be careful, that's bad for your circulation
These are used for official documents I imagine not just office memos. When I was in Japan in 1999 with my students we carved our own from soapstone. The process of creating such beautiful and exacting seals was fascinating to observe. Thank you!
They were used as signatures.
Now only serve as decorations in comparison to digital signatures.
@@expioreris My Dan Certificate in Soo Bahk Do has both one of the Chinese Signatures and a Western one. It took me a while to realize what it actually was :)
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why did they start with pencil and then go to ink and then scan and redo it in svg? why not just start with svg using modern tools? It isn't like they benefit from the pencil and ink: it is redone using digital scanning and tracing anyway. This workshop isn't spending extra time to achieve the highest level of precision and quality, they are just following the steps and hoping that tedium translates to perceived quality.
I've got zero complaints about the machining though. That was bang on.
@@acmhfmggru I suspect that the ink drawing is part of the package given to the owner plus, hand drawing will likely introduce slight variations that carry through to the finished piece despite being digitized.
Поверь - это не так. Это работа дилетантов.
Absolutely amazing. Such perfect work, taking something so historically important into the future. The detail give such respect to the family and owners name. Just marvelous!
At ~$1100 these cost less than I expected.
It saddens me to see that so many people don’t value craftsmanship like this anymore. Using perfectly made, purpose-built tools like these are extremely satisfying- and a joy to use every day. The folks at the MIRAIN factory and the ones developing these machines can be proud of themselves.
Imagine that you have to walk around with a stamp all your life and put it on all documents, it’s simply inconvenient in everyday life.
This is a waste of resources and time.
What time period are you imagining where people were more appreciative of computer aided electrical discharge machining? don't get me wrong these are super neat stamps, and they also make some really cool metal puzzles, but they are all essentially expensive toys with absurdly precise tolerances. I'm actually baffled that with their very expensive equipment, this is what they are using it for...like how does that business model work? Is this just a side business to keep these very expensive machines running at capacity when they aren't getting orders for precision machined components? It seems a little bit like sending your Michelin star chef to the McDonalds down the street to make fries on slow nights.
自然光が差し込む窓辺の作業台が精密時計士のようだ。精密でも半導体や光学産業のような密閉された部屋で黄色や緑の人工光線下に作業しているのとは全然雰囲気が違う。こういうのもあるんですね。感動しました。
最強の印鑑は拇印だけどな。
なぜお水をかけているのですか？
Typical Japanese craftsmanship with fine precision.
@@urchinsea6297 Thank you for your reply. This is a seal. In Japan, we still use seals instead of signatures on documents. Also, for official documents, we use seals registered with the government office and attach a seal certificate.
@@urchinsea6297 I understand. Thank you for letting me know. Japanese seals were introduced from ancient China 2,300 years ago. In Japan, seals have been used for authoritative purposes since ancient times. This continues in modern Japan, but in the future, signatures may become mainstream.
@@mify11 Ah thats why its made so accurate,its important like money stampers.
@@shoryuken9520 That's right! I learned something new from that. Thank you.
This is anything but typical
This is such a symbol of Japanese engineering. Over-engineering the design and manufacturing to the highest quality while the product is outdated, and not used any more by the rest of the world.
In the 1980s the rest of the world was fascinated by the trend in Japan to just 'find' expensive ways of consuming. This is a great example, of turning tradition into a massively expensive modern caricature of the original solution to a problem that no longer exists. So VERY Japanese. GREAT engineering, pointless exercise.
It's such a waste of time and energy and human potential.
It's like the germans and their engineering of vehicals... They are wonderful vehiclaes but they are so over engineered that they break a lot and are a pain in the ARSE to fix when they do
Sure, most of the world doesn't use seals, but it's still very commonly used in asian countries, as these are often used to sign off on personal documents. While most are very standard stamps, some families might get a really fancy one made to have as a family heirloom, such as having them carved from jade. This video shows off a very nice fancy machined one. If it's a family heirloom, might as well go all out.
@@SilvaDreams Except this would be more in line with Japanese vehicles, highly engineered, attention to detail, and a reputation for long-lasting reliability
This is just awesome. Perfect craftsmanship starting with a hand drawn seal imprint to an actual metal seal marker. Very awesome indeed
すげー手間かかるんやな。完成した時の気持ち良さよ
どうせ機械で簡単に作れるんだろうな〜、と思っていたら想像以上に大変な作業だった。
捺印が印刷みたいに綺麗。お値段高いけど、いつか作ってみたいです。
A hotplate that converts to a grill might be cool for a tiny apartment, seen this metal cutting tech for a long time but first time seeing it solve a problem: ease of cleaning! and ease of cleaning is generally ignored, with all sorts of tiny unreachable nooks and crannies in everything usually, so this is great
私印鑑って凄いすきで、使う機会が本当に少なくなってきてる昨今。
昔は回覧板に見ましたよってポンって押してたけどそれもなくなり、それでも子供の手紙とかで使う事もあるから、何本もデザイン、大きさ違うのを買っています。
こんな次世代の印鑑ができるときっとお高いんだろうけど、かっこいい良すぎて欲しくなっちゃう😂
機械だけど、人の手の凄さ、職人さんたちの技術の高さがててる凄い動画ありがとうございました
I live in Brazil, would never need to use one of those, but I desperately need one in my life now!
Such beauty and skill fabricating these seals. This even extends to the packaging and presentation.
Except the first guy, he was clearly the weakest link in the whole operation.
素晴らしいオブジェ。 まさに芸術です！
그려~~예술은 배고프다 OK
やっぱ印鑑っていいよ。押印する時の達成感って最高。
Es sutil y elegante el trabajo. Exquisito ver los procesos, al crear arte con su trabajo muchas gracias por compartirlo!
素晴らしい技術！ 誇りに思う
Wow - There is still some quality in the world! Thanks
印鑑がすごいってより、この技術が素晴らしいよね。アナログに近いて仕事でここまでやる職人の技術よ。
印鑑が今使われてないとか、古いとかそういうことじゃなくて。
こう言った人間の手仕事の正確性が未だに宇宙ロケット製作に生かされていたりするし、繊細な正確性を持った知能と遺伝子は是非後世まで引き継がれてほしいと思う。
私は経験者なのでわかりますが、これはわかる人じゃないと何やってるのかわからないでしょうね…。隠れて飛び出してって、凹と凸のプラスマイナスの公差が必要になってくるので、プログラムだけじゃなく公差の部分は職人さんが入力するしかないですからね。それでもワイヤーや刃物の具合によっては同じく入力しても出来が違いますからね。でも、よく考えたなと思います。
なぜ、削る時にお水をかけているのですか？
@@a2hito1112
抵抗及び摩擦熱と摩耗を和らげています
Such an extensive process 😮
Respect!
径19mmは、少し大きく感じます。
径16mm~17mmだと使いようが良いかも。
印のサイズ種類が増えたら即注文します。
アドバイスありがとうございます。現在15mmを開発中です。その際は是非お願い致します。
Such beauty in this manufacturing process.
I've had my traditional wooden one for 31 years, certainly looking a bit battered and worn in comparison. Incredible tolerances.
Absolutely incredible. Down nearly to the atomic level!
I see what you did there.... Nice try.
Didn't even realize I was sitting here for a whole 16 minutes all open mouth breathing because of how good this video was. I hate myself but this was amazing.
I always have a moment of clarity and realise I have a goofy little smile on my face. No reason to hate yourself!
You know it's Japanese level of quality when microscopes have to be involved. ♥
10万くらいなら欲しいなあと思ってサイトを見に行ったら165000円…悩む。
同じ考えの人いた！ｗ
宝くじでも当たったら買おうかなあと思う😂
一生物ですしね。60年使ったら年2750円。
このご時世ですし、今後値上がりしかない。
That’s crazy work of art.
新時代の印鑑って言葉がもう不気味だよね…
Великолепная работа мастера! Очень интересно, сколько стоит эта печать! Единичное производство всегда невероятная работа
The fact that they still use seals in the 21st century is more interesting…
And, not just one seal. My business in Asia requires 4 distinct seals each with its own purpose.
日本には公的に印鑑を登録する制度があります😂
EDM cutting is crazy.
I think CNC Kitchen recently had a bit about the beginning stages of an at home EDM setup. Reminded me of very early at home 3d printers.
yea it is, although a lot of people think that perfectly-fitting pieces like these are actually cut from a single piece of material and that the cut line is just that thin when its reality its 2 pieces that are just very accurately cut and fit together perfectly.
It's a pretty old technology, but it still looks futuristic and makes crazy products!
Amazing! What incredible workmanship! I want one because it's so cool, although I don't know what I would do with it.
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Отличное выполнение работы!
Всем мастерам поклон!!!
Absolutely amazing
一つ一つの動作や所作に魅入るのは、茶道や武道の示範を見るような感じだからなのかな。自分の生活を見直すと、一つのことに集中せずに生きている「ながら生活」だと思います。しかし、このプロセスを大切にお仕事をされている方々は、その時に、その瞬間に集中されていると思いました。だから美しい。丁寧に生きたいというのが、目標なのですが、この動画で、丁寧とは何かを考えることができました。ありがとうございます。
All that ultra precision machinery… leave it on a window sill for a day. 😂
フラットにして押印したら文字側が白抜きになるのかなと妄想した。凄い技術。動物や木の印鑑より、壊れないし動物保護にもなると思うから凄く良い。
材料は鉄鋼ですか？ワイヤーカット技術の応用ですよね？素晴らしい発想です。感動しました。
All that effort and craftsmanship… i bet this is expensive as heck 😅
They link to their website. It’s $1100
@@ThePrimePrimer 🤯
Such an intricate, precise seal.
Looks impossible to make a forgery or counterfeit!
👍🏼
If they can make the seal, so can the counterfeiters.
The final print with paint, its absorption into the paper and spreading around the perimeter, negates the initial accuracy of the print. To reproduce a print, printing with a large error in size is sufficient.
@@firstmaster100 Did you even watch the first like, 15 seconds of the video? They literally test it on paper and the lines are so clean and precise that it even has the tiny bumps on the lines in the design. If that isn't extremely accurate then I don't know what is LOL
@@recilinceYou are taking my words out of context, distorting the essence. I did not say that the tool was poorly made, only that the liquid paint print can be faked using another tool that has significant deviations from the original high-precision one.
@@recilinceTo put it simply, it is not the instrument itself that is copied, it is the impression that is copied, but because of the method of application it does not require such an identical instrument. Demonstrating precision by turning a design into a smooth surface is more of a publicity stunt and has nothing to do with the uniqueness of the print. It's like comparing a laser and an inkjet printer. Do you understand the difference in the result and the reason for this?
I love how easily 9:55 is skipped over, when it’s by far one of the most important parts
The regrind has nothing on 1:46, those Radiuses in the cad are what make the real magic happen.
amazing! But i do like jade and hand carved.
素晴らしい👍❣️
これで銀行印とか実印作ってみたい…カッコイイ
more of a flex than useful item. Rubber stamp does the same just costs 10 instead of 1000. Of course if there is a market for "flex" its not wrong to provide it. I also don't understand people who spend thousands on wrist watches when you have time on smartphone
Like this seal, a watch is an incredible feat of engineering and craftsmanship. For some, it's a treasured link to the past. For others it's a superficial flex.
The most interesting thing is how they create a perfect match between the parts and I can't see how that is done in this video.
This is maid with EDM cutting. You can see it at 06:00 . You need to know that those are 2 different cuts. Like an insert. Going together.
I really want to know how much something like that would cost... Brilliant engineering.
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They're $1100.
The machining tolerance, precision, attention to detail, beauty & polish is likely the best I've ever seen- I have machining experience & I have made gauge blocks precise & mirrored enough, that if you pressed them together, one side would stick to the other just from how good the tolerances were, but to make something like this I believe it would carry a greater sense of pride with it. That said, if this is a CEO thing or something fine, but if it's something like an inspection or government seal, the cost seems overly prohibitive, especially for the taxpayers. It seams eccentric rather than practical, unless it happens to be near impossible to counterfeit.
As an Indian I feel 100 years back in time then Japan...
I wonder how much one of these seals cost? Looks pricey!
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途中の大きい円盤(ローラー)の所は砥石になっててバリ取りと大まかな鏡面磨きしてるのかな？そして最後にもう一度。めちゃくちゃ手間かかってる。
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
That step of editing the vertices by hand is PAINSTAKING and I love it.
It's beautiful! I love watching wire EDM
Amazing 😍
Thanks for posting this video and makingthe prints..
すごい技術
That’s one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen!
Dang, those are pretty detailed. Amazing work
So cool wish we had these in USA
Mesmerizing. I hope it has a bluetooth tracker to keep it from getting lost.
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Прекрасная вещь! Почему вы не дали насладится ею и рассмотреть ближе? Все время только мелькала перед глазами. Вы не дали оценить вашу работу до конца! За работу + за съёмку- !
完美的漢字印章，古典和𧠒代的完美融合。
Es excelente diseño y construcción para un sello, los felicito. Pero, ¿Podrian gastar menos agua en el proceso de fabricación? Gracias y saludos muy cordiales.
一回押して朱肉を拭き取り、フラットにしてから押すと反転した印影になるのかな？
判面の文字を出す前に朱肉つけてたけど、引っ込んだ方の面についてたインクが中に残ったりしないのかな
構造を見た感じ、隙間が少ないので少量ですが、ゆっくり雄型と雌型の隙間に詰まっていくでしょうね。クリーニングがユーザーでできるレベルならいいのですが。
Submerging the entire piece in machinery oil periodically should help remove anything that gets inside
Does that method can clean up internal mechanisms as well?
I think to entirely clean it up, you have to disassemble the stump even with the cleaning oil.
@@priceostia6292 It won't clean perfectly, but it should remove anything that feels sticky in the moving parts. I'd be too afraid of breaking it to take it apart.
Edit: If the oil can't get to an internal piece, neither can anything else.
What I was thinking is not about sticky sensation. When deeper section gets stuffed with old inks, friction level gets higher and more, eventually would get stuck. That’s why I was writing “I hope it’s cleanable for an enduser”.
Seriously incredible work, what an amazing product.
Crazy precision
I was so confused as to how this metal plate would become a hanko.
精密に作れば作るほど、同じものが複数作れてしまうというジレンマ
高級はんこの場合は版下を人間が書いてるから、これを使いまわさなければ唯一無二です。そしてシャチハタのような大量生産品は使いまわしです。
thats just great precision work!
うわーーーーーこの前銀行印作ったばっかりや！！滅多に買い替えるものじゃないしこれにすりゃよかった…
うわー！！
かっちょいいなあ
19mmって意外と大きいな🤔
殆ど使うことないけど回覧板とかに押したい
なんでもいいから押したい😂
パートナーに相談だ！
It's so precise it's crazy
Wow, that is super cool and beautiful 👍
Wow, that is some precise engineering and tools! We're looking at thousandths of millimeters being machined at some points! And just the attention to care of assembly of the seal!
This must be made for only those that are very important or wealthy. I can't imagine that even if common Japanese people need their seals for all sorts of reasons like document signing and official forms, to have a seal THAT well crafted is mind blowing! Most people's seals are just no more than a rubber stamp nowadays!
なるほど、放電加工で別パーツ作って合わせて、合体させた後に面を揃えるための研磨してるのか
I used wire EDM machining to make inspection gauges for aerospace...the accuracy can be incredible, as demonstrated.
すごいです。韓国でも手に入れたいです.
15:44 印字消えるの？フリクションみたいですげー！！
ハンコの溝に朱が残って汚れるの気にしていたから、このハンコめちゃくちゃ良いな...
まぁ、電子署名文化が行き渡った会社でほぼ使わなくなったのですが
Thats a lot of work for a system that fundamentally does not make much sense. Beautiful craftsmanship though.
Top-notch engineering
平らな状態を相手方に見せて押す直前にこっそり文字を出し捺印して驚かせたい！
I have no need for one of these, I detest putting my name to anything, but I nevertheless want one. This is a thing of beauty, and the process of making it is fascinating.
The moment you showed how it works, I already knew it was wire EDM.
I had the same thought watching the intro. I couldn't think of any other process that would yield such precision.
Great works, great premium company seals!
How about price per 1 piece?
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Need to hire Peter Draws, he’d make some fascinating ones!
Peeps at Mirain aint messing around, the tolerances and how many hands and processes these go through, crazy.
Hey slick, you really only need that shield when you're slinging chips.
毛細管現象で隙間から内部にインクが入り込んだりしないのかな
저도 그렇게 생각합니다. 나중에는 잉크가 미세한 틈새로 유입이 되서 부자연스럽게 되지 않을까 생각합니다. 하지만 조립한거의 반대로 분해하고 닦아내서 기름을 발라주면 되지 않을까요?
これはクール！