BRIDGESTONE POTENZA RE-71R TIRES | WATCH THIS BEFORE BUYING
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I noticed my front and rear tires nearing the end of their tread life, and decided to shoot my thoughts on my "new-ish" Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R tires. I wanted to get my experience out there to help clear up any discussions bouncing around regarding these tires.
My story starts when it came time to replace my beloved Bridgestone Potenza RE-11's in the front of my Nismo 370Z. Unfortunately, Bridgestone had stopped production on the RE-11's and was now pushing their RE-71R's as a formidable replacement with improved handling and capabilities all the way around. On the fly, I decided to give them an expensive try... and the video here explains my experience as a performance minded, but still daily driven car enthusiast.
This is not a video about exact lap time improvements from model to model of tires. Its an examination of my experiences with daily driving with these tires, and how the transition from other performance tires compare to the RE-71R. There was more than meets the eye, and sometimes these details just don't make their way online for others to see.
Want to purchase these tires for your daily driven performance vehicle? Watch this video first!
Thanks,
Justin
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Thanks for watching the video 👍. Tire selection is always an interesting and expensive journey. I've personally driven on many different brands and models over the years. I hope my video helps you explore what its like to choose for or against the Bridgestone RE-71R's as your next tire choice.
Video Timestamps Below
0:40 - The holy trinity of tires
1:10 - An introduction to the Bridgestone RE-71R
1:25 - Some important questions to ask before buying performance tires for your daily driver
2:00 - My high-level thoughts on the RE-71R
2:40 - To daily drive on or not?
2:50 - Performance in the rain (a long debated topic with this tire from my personal experience)
3:45 - SLINGING ROCKS FOR DAYS. More than I have ever experienced before in any other tire. What I imagine being buried alive sounds like...
4:25 - Ride quality and driveability
5:23 - Tire.... "life"
6:00 - Sad NVSTRZ34 :'(
6:15 - Pricing
7:00 - Thoughts?
7:10 - My next choice of tires (most likely)
8:25 - Final thoughts on the Bridgestone RE-71R's
9:05 - Glamour shots in the sunset (A+ timing...)
RE71R wear down fast from track days, but they just make the car feel so good that I don't care about the wear! They even drive great on the wet/standing water... at least on my car.
I love them on my Z. Love them. They just really lost their edge in the rain on my Z the further they wore. Other than that... they were amazing.
Ran the re71r on my B5 Audi and I just fell in love. I'll be putting them on my 11' WRX this season and I'm excited to see how it makes it feel in comparison to my sloppy Audi
I don't know why I keep checking on tire reviews when I know I'm just going to get the Pilot 4S's.
I debated about scooping mine up over Labor Day because there were sales going on. I still have a little tread life, so decided to hold off until any end of year sales. I'm excited.
Thanks for the interesting and informative review. I own a 2019 370z sport coupe with about 18K miles on it and I was seriously considering the RE71s when it came time to replace the OEM Bridgestone Potenza S007 that were on the car. Those tires were great, in all respects and I wanted to replace them with the same when they ran down but the problem was that it would have been very expensive, ~$1, 400 for the tires alone. I looked for alternatives and used Tire Rack's information to compile a spreadsheet of all the aspects of tire performance and characteristics that mattered to me, a list of about 22 tires. I wound up going with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, a tire that is not cheap but on a cents per mile, based on anticipated tread wear rate, that would make it competitive with other performance tires. Here is my comparison of the Michelins to the OEM Bridgestones:
• the Michelins are quieter and less harsh riding than the Bridgestones
• the wet performance of both tires is excellent
• the Michelins will wear longer than the Bridgestones
• the Bridgestones have stiffer sidewalls and seem to be better damped to respond to bumps and road irregularities
• related to the above, the Bridgestones seem to be more responsive and accurate in their steering response.
Because of the last two qualities, I'm not going to go back to the Michelins when these wear out. I will probably go back to the OEM Potenzas. I think the PS4S is a tire desired more along the lines of a high-performance touring or GT type for something like A BMW.
Great comment! I really really enjoy the stiffer sidewalls with my RE-71R's like you mentioned. Still think I will move on the Michelin 4S's... but we will see when the time comes (which is around the corner).
Thank you for your great comment and support! Take care.
-Justin
Thank you for such a frank n true review. There should be more longer term reviews like yours. Very nice car too!!!
Thank you for your comment and support Jeff. Agreed! I definitely have items I want to give a long term review of such as my Fortune Auto Coilovers (coilovers are always an opinionated subject) , Z1 Intakes, and the Cerwin Vega subwoofer. Thanks for the suggestion. Always looking for new topics to go over.
Again, thank you for the support. Take care!
I like the RE71R, great grip on the track, not good in the rain, if you get caught in the rain hang on! when they get hot you can hear them sizzle on the pavement. I do get wheel hop from these tires though. 2004 Holden Monaro 625 rwhp
Thanks for your comment and support Anthony. Yes. Agreed! I was researching on the fly at the tire shop and found very mixed reviews (mostly very good), but wet performance was super ambiguous. I wanted to post this video especially for those consider dailying on these tires in places it rains a lot (like Houston, Texas for instance). They are sold in most tire shops as if they would be fine for these conditions.
This video isnt a dig on the tire, its just perspective from someone that wants to cut through the Bridgestone marketing, tire sponsorship testimonials, and initial tire review BS. This is a reflection of a long term review, and unbiased as they come to make sure people are getting exactly what they paid for and the most out of their performance vehicles.
Thanks again for your comment 🤘
@@NVSTRZ34 You're welcome! No digs here either just my opinion. I would buy these tires again, is there really a tire that would satisfy every aspect of driving???
Thanks for the review. I am trying to find and decide good replacement tired for the stock bridgestones that I love. Don't track it or autocross, just my weekend fund car.
Thanks for your comment Steve! I really was TORN on the move to the Bridgestone RE-71R's. I found mixed reviews on wear and ESPECIALLY mixed reviews on wet performance. I can speak from direct experience that even with light to moderate wear on the RE-71R's over a short time, the wet performance curve dropped rather steep after a short amount of use (which is unfortunate). I have had a couple of "oh s***" moments in moderate rain conditions (not when brand new... but after a little bit of time after purchase).
I decided to do this video, because even though this tire is an absolutely FANTASTIC dry autocross/weekend tire, its still sold by most national tire supply stores as an everyday performance tire (which it is not in my opinion and experience). I hope people find my video here to at least consider this before buying.
Thank you again for your comment and support.
-Justin
Thank you for this honest review! Answered all the questions I had about this tire
No problem. Glad it was helpful to you! Take care. -Justin
This video helped me pull the trigger on these tires as I got them for a steal at $105 a tire!
Nice! Damn good price.
Where the heck did you find that price?
Nice vid...love my 71r’s...although news of it being discontinued was known before you posted the vid...certain sizes were already unavailable...now almost nothing is available. The 71RS is taking forever to be released in the U.S.
Wish it was released Summer 2021. Now we have to wait 2022.
Yeah. I have found updates around the RE-71R to be a little confusing. The RE-71RS DEFINITELY seems like it is taking forever. I was reading about them a few months after I bought my RE-71R's. Was excited then. I think the global supply issues are really hurting everything in general. Bad timing for the tire.
Why are these hard to find I’m looking for a set for 350Z in 275/35/18
Discontinued now, unfortunately. I believe they were to have an "RS" version come out, but don't see them offered anywhere. Pity. They were a GREAT tire.
Interesting Review. I ran these for a while as daily tires when they came out in 2015. I didn't have any problems with wet traction until they were about half worn. I did find that they are at their best when closer to new with dry and wet performance. After some heat cycles from the track days, they're still good, but at max you'll get RE-11 performance. I agree with your overall assessment though: These aren't meant for daily use. I have the Conti Extreme Contact Sport on my "street" wheels for my Z and they have been excellent. Safe wet weather handling, decent with road noise and drivability. They also don't break the bank. I have a set on my Daily WRX and happened to track on them just for fun, they hold up for about 3 laps but get tired after that haha. Still good fun.
Thanks for your comment Parker. You comments around the Continental extreme contact tires was pretty interesting. I was actually eyeing them as a final round option for my next tires, but the PS4S was calling my name. Sad to see the Contenintals didn't have as much track life as I was expecting though...
Thanks again for your comment 👍
-Justin
@@NVSTRZ34 I should clarify they're (continentals) only good for the first three laps per session, but I would recommend them to a novice to intermediate track driver. Something like a RE 71R shouldn't be used until advanced level in my opinion. The tire has so much grip, it can mask bad habits. Also, when they fall off the cliff during a session (overheating), they'll change the car balance to very loose.
the 71s don't work on the track in the cold though. I did a day in 40F and was basically power sliding out of corners.
@@z-ro34 Thanks for the input on the Continentals. Very interesting. Haven't seen input like that, but then again, most tire reviewers on popular sites arent tracking their car/describing in detail about track performance on their tires when its not as expected/marketed.
Thanks again!
Take care,
Justin
No way on Pilot Sport 4S. I've had the older super sport and I have run the 4S. Michelins have soft sidewalls. For the lack of a better word, I will call it steering lag (think of turbo lag). Yes, the RE71R wears quickly. So do Falken RT615K+. Any tire that is going to grip well is going to wear quickly. Is the RE71R a bit much for a daily...maybe.
Thank you for this review.
I've had issues hooking my M4, it just spins for days. How are these compared to PS4S?
Looking to getting good traction tires for the BMW, which isn't a daily, just a weekend ride. But traction is my biggest weakness.
Thank you for your question and support! I am sorry that 5 days has passed. I don't always get updates in the RUclips app that comments have posted. Here are my thoughts. The PS4S are better all around tires. Period. There are gives and takes, but there is a reason many many top tier supercars, etc. run them. They are absolutely amazing tires all the way around. From what I have read, the RE-71R's have better dry performance (in general), but for a daily driver and weekend racer, the PS4S are an AMAZING pick and I am a believer now seeing/feeling them in person (different car than my own).
I haven't tested the PS4S in the rain (which I call out in my video here is a weakness of the RE-71R here - as well as the tire life - can't stress this enough), but I hear/see there is no all around BETTER substitute.
When I pick up a set here soon, I will for sure double back on my thoughts side by side, but I have absolutely 0 hesitations picking up a set for my car for daily driving and spirited driving sessions.
Let me know if there are any other questions or comments.
Take care,
Justin
Great and thorough review dude!!! I personally find the potenza RE003 the best for a daily and to take to the track or for pushing to the limit. The potenza s001 were a complete waste of money 😤
Thank you for your comment and support Hans! I really appreciate your experience and commentary. If I dont like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4's, I will take a look at the RE003's. How has tire life been with them?
@@NVSTRZ34 my pleasure man!!! I still have them and its been about 40k km with 2 rotations and still lots of life left
@@HaveOneWithHans Nice! Getting some decent life out of them. Good to hear they have the performance to match as well. Will keep my eyes on these for the next round of tires. Thanks for your input.
Take care,
Justin
@@NVSTRZ34 anytime dude thanks for the exchange 😁
@@HaveOneWithHans 🤘
I have a 370Z Nismo. I run the Continental Extreme Contact sport. Mostly because of the cost of Michelin options or Pirelli P Zero. Like the Potenza RE71R in your review- every single bump in the road seems to be felt. Maybe not buying such a thin sidewall would help. I do get decent tread wear, but I don’t drive like a maniac (much) or track my car.
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Thanks for your comment and support Richard! I personally like the meatier tire look on my Z so I run large'ish tires. Actually, I will be dialing it back a little bit on the next set because I definitely noticed acceleration was impacted because of the extra tire mass, and its hard to find the same tire sizes in the tires I like without breaking the bank now (but still retaining a lot of the performance). I have heard people running the same Continental tires as you with good results. Really honing in on a set of Michelin 4S's for my next set.
Thinking about these rear only on my Q50 red sport what you think about dig race
I've got a RWD car struggling to put down 715ft-lbs of torque at 3500rpm. I'm looking for tires to actually give me shred of grip. Currently have Michelin Pilot Sport 4s... Not sure if there's really any workaround to my issue now, even these :/
If you are looking for a streetable tire to put down that level of power... its going to be pretty tough. That's both a good and bad problem to have. The 4S is a good all around performance tire. Now, if you were looking for a performance only tire, that is a different story. 😁🤘
Proxies r888r
How many miles would you say you got out of them? I'm thinking of getting these for my TT RS. It's a weekend toy, so, If I can get maybe like 8k out of a set (which I can rotate) I'd be happy. My Pirelli P Zero's on my last car were good, but they went out every 12k or so.
You can probably squeeze out 8K. Just to touch on a subject in the video briefly... way before I reached the end life of the tire I noticed wet performance go down pretty drastically. If you don't plant to drive it in the rain a bunch or aggressively in the rain, I say go for it. Dry performance is fantastic. 👍
Hope that helps.
-Justin
@@NVSTRZ34 Yeah, it's very dry and usually warm where I live. It'll be just a fun street driven car with maybe a few trips here and there. Did you ever try the Michelin PS4S by comparison?
@@JustinBone I've now driven a Porsche Cayman with some 4S's on it now. Even though they are different than my Z in the video, I have nothing but good things to say. Only SMALL difference I noticed right away was the sidewalls definitely did not have the same stiffness as the RE71Rs (which felt more precise with turn in).
Anyone experience loud noise like you were inside the airplane? or is it me?
Great review. I just picked up a set of used wheels that had these mounted on them. I was curious to see if others felt how I did about them and you seem to share all the same sentiments. I cant comment on the wet performance since it hasnt rained since I got them. They are super grippy but small pebbles like to embed themselves in the soft tire. Im also running a poke style fittment and I can feel them tossing sand and stuff onto my fenders but its nbd car needs paint anyways
Yep. The first time I got on the highway with them, it sounded like I was being hit with a pebble shotgun as they came off the tires at speed 😆👍.
Congrats on your new wheels and tires 🤘
@@NVSTRZ34 ironically after I left that content I got to drive home from work in the rain and tbh I tried playing around on some corners and I couldn't find the edge of grip so at least for me as a driver and my setup which isn't even fast anyways, its plenty grippy enough in the wet imo
@@weemankyle Yep. My experience with wet traction was pretty positive initially too. Just seemed to lose a little of that bite sooner than expected the more miles I put on them. Dry traction was always top notch though. Excellent excellent.
So what about using this just as a daily driver
Thanks for your comment. My take is that there are better options out there for a mix of mostly daily driving and occasional performance driving. However, if you are looking for great dry performance and dont care about longevity, these are excellent.
I take michelin cup 2r , IT is the best of the best of semi slicks tyres
I was wondering why I hadn't come across the 2R's. Apparently, they were only available in 20"+? Unfortunately, too big for my needs. Has great reviews though.
@@NVSTRZ34 yes, only 20s, the SECOND best is potenza RE-71RS, i was try too , AMAZING HOW FAST ON AND TOP
Have you looked into the S007A? Bridgestone says it's the spiritual successor to the RE-11 and fits in between an extreme summer and max summer.
Otherwise, can't go wrong with the Michelin PS4S. I have them as rain/daily tires and love how they ride. Laterally, they can hang with the 71R with being a hair behind it. Longitudinally is where it falls short of the 71R.
Hello PiroFyre! Actually, these were off my radar I think mostly because they were comparatively priced with the PS4's. Will take another look at them though!
I bought Michelin pilot sport as 3
Thank you for your comment and support Dom. Congrats on the new tires! 🤘
Looking @ these summer tyres for my 06 corolla xrs and just want to use them for daily driving and spirited runs to the coast.
They skate in the rain
How long did you have them until you needed to replace them being a daily..
Thanks for your question and support! At the time of the video, I had about 7K miles on them. Have about 8K currently, and itching to swap them up as they lost their grip in the wet and in general as well. This is with no heavy track days.
Let me know if there are any other questions or comments.
Thanks,
Justin
NVSTRZ34 so about 7k until they’re good but should be replaced for wet conditions.. thanks for the quick reply.
@@ogcameo37 They actually started losing some rain conditions handling a little bit before, but I think your comment is still directionally right. It was a progressive loss of feeling that accelerated over time (from around 5k till now). Now, I take it easy in the rain. Hope this helps 🤘
-Justin
Don’t put track tyres on a daily driver
Thanks for your comment and support Ryan. Agreed. However, these tires are not usually sold as a strictly track rated tire. They are sold as streetable & performance capable all season tires for sports car enthusiasts by most big name tire shops out there. This video is meant to educate others about falling into this trap by inadvertently purchasing a tire that is not necessarily a good street driven tire long term. Other than that, they are a fantastic choice if you are looking for a dry performance tire 100%. Thank you again for your comment.
Take care,
Justin
Why not??
The RE-11 came back reincarnated as the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500
I've heard good things about the Firehawk Indy 500's as a decent performance tire.
I went from R-71R for firehawks. They are not in the same league. The firehawks don't grab, hook or launch as good as the 71R's that being said I would rather buy the firehawks 1 instead of the 71R's twice
Correct - the Firehawk is not the RE-71R. The RE-71R is much stickier than the Indy 500. I have owned both. The Indy 500 is impressive for a 340 treadwear tire and the price.
@@anthonylusano6906 absolutely agree can't go wrong it has amazing sidewalls for the money and you. And you can always grab them a little wider
I run the re71r on my supercharged grand prix and ended up getting 30k out of them with some very harsh burnouts. Definantly a very tourque friendly tire.
Thanks for your comment and support Taylor. Nice! I'm actually impressed you got that much life out of them. I definitely DO like their grip when in dry conditions and will miss the stiff sidewalls. I am hoping the Michelin PS4's live up to the hype.
Take care,
Justin
Good review 👍🏼👍🏼ps4s are great tyres
Yes they are! I cant wait to get them! 🤗
Are you really running 325’s on stock nismo wheels :O
Are they oem nismo wheels?
@@osmelamador4656 They are indeed on stock Nismo wheels. If you search this setup on the370z.com, you will find more info on the tire size setup described in my video. No rubbing issues.
NVSTRZ34 wow i love it, looks great. Also great video on the RE-71R.
@@osmelamador4656 Thanks! Be on the lookout for when I scoop up the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s soon. REALLY interested to compare them against each other. Pretty excited to give them a try this round.
Also, have a new off road project I just purchased you might find interesting as well. Hope you stick around.
Take care and feel free to ask a question here whenever. I try to respond asap.
Thanks,
Justin
NVSTRZ34 definitely will be sticking around, can’t wait for that comparison!!
You would like the firestone firehawk indy 500 if you liked the old bridgestone tire.
DO NOT GO FIREHAWK AS. go indy 500 you will love them.
@@gabehorn5079 Ive heard good things. It was definitely on the list of tires to try. Thanks for the suggestion!
My buddy runs them on a 375hp wrx, hard as fuck. He loves the, they last a good wile, they grip like crazy for the money, I think you'll love them.
@@gabehorn5079 Yeah. Havent pulled the trigger on the PS4's yet. Might double back and take a look. I REALLY liked the firm sidewalls.
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Unfortunately you are blaming the tyres for your poor suspension setup. Stiff suspension should be reserved for the track. When you are on the street you need softer suspension or you are going to keep wrecking high quality tyres on shitty roads and cause unnecessary wear on components i.e. engine mounts. Noisy ride is because you have stiff springs that dont allow your struts to do their job. Looks like you run ebay coilovers or something of equivalent quality. I can tell by the way your car is on jackstands and you have no downward movement. That type of suspension setup is garbage for street use cause of the shitty roads. You dont sound like a hard street driver more like a old man driver with the occasional spastic moment when you open your car up. Change your suspension and you will make a huge improvement to your tyres and ride quality. Thats why other people dont have the same problem as you using the same tyres lol. I run different setups for street. I learnt this a long time ago in the 90s. Forgot to mention, the RE11 might be gone but the RE003 is there.
Respectfully, you're off on your judgement and general commentary. The coilover suspension is Fortune Autos on Swift springs (farrrrr from the eBay brands you have mentioned). They are also not set super stiff at all. Additionally, aggressive treads and compounds in the tires add to the road noise way more than suspension.
You will hydroplane off the road...
Thanks for your comment. Yep. Slightly worn RE-71R's in the rain are no fun in my opinion. Better options out there for everyday drivers. Although, the tire kicks butt in dry conditions.
Thanks,
*Justin*