We Traded Away our Best Player - MLB The Show 24 Franchise Ep.4
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
- Today we begin the MLB The Show 24 Franchise with the St. Louis Cardinals. The Cards are far from being one of the weakest teams in baseball, but they do have one of the most uncertain future. This is an experienced team and one of the oldest in the MLB. Every starting pitcher is at least 32 years old. The best two position players have over 10 years experience. The Cardinals will have to rebuild this organization regardless of their success in the near future. I'm excited to work on restoring this franchise to a championship standard that they have not seen in the last decade.
On my MrHurriicaneLP channel I make sports gaming lets play series. My series focus on building teams and players from sports like baseball and football. I play games such as Madden 24, NCAA Football 14, MLB The Show 24 and more.
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It's not a Cane MLB franchise without someone being played out of position and a terrible baserunning decision! It's those little things that make the dog days of Year 1 exciting!
It was a hilariously bad decision.
Lol
Really liking the pacing of the series so far, can’t wait to see where we can go from here
Walker spent most of his time in the minors as a 3B, but the organization switched him to OF so he wouldn’t be stuck behind Arenado. If you do end up trading Arenado, 3B would be a much more natural position for Walker.
Last episode SP Steve Castilla had a range of 70-98 potential, 51-79 overall and SP Billy Murray had a range of 70-98 potential, 54-82 overall. Both players low-ends increased by 5 points and top-ends went down by 1 from before you started scouting them.
This video Steve Castilla is at 72-97 and 53-78, which is a +2 and -1 point change. Billy Murray is at 73-98 and 57-82, a +3 and 0 point change.
I know you think 22 year old Daniel Gomez-Phelps would be a good pick, and I agree. However, I think these other 2, maybe more so Billy right now, should have an eye kept on them as the scouting progresses.
Edit: I sent this after the first week of scouting you showed. Billy Murray has just kept getting better. another +3, 0 point change in the second week of scouting for the video.
I hope cane sees this comment t because I agree with your assessment
@@mentalhaze4226 until Murray starts losing points from the top end, he just keeps looking like a potential generational talent.
Also, could you imagine going from drafting Joe Michael with the As to getting another high caliber pitcher in year 1 on the new series?
@wrtrext I would be extremely pleased if we can go back to back franchises with a generational talent SP
W work my guy
Remember to discover players instead of just always scouting! Need to find some steals for rounds 3 -5
Should you have at least 1 scout discovering prospects through all 14 weeks? I’m interested to see what other people’s scouting strategies are.
He was discovering
@@travisjudd7392 I usually discover for 8-10 weeks, that way I get a good amount of prospects but still time to scout the interesting ones
@@travisjudd7392 I normally go until week 10 or 11. Then I just finish out the scouting reports. I often find that the prospects discovered draft ranks change quite dramatically the more you scout them.
Bobby Rico being that small and having all that power with extreme opposite field timing is one of the most intriguing players I’ve seen…
Wouldn’t risk it until the 4th round
I think since the first year is kind of a wash and it seems like you’ll be trading away the majority of the stars soon, I’d appreciate if we got through this first season faster. Would be exciting to see Lesko and the prospects you draft sooner rather than later, especially since you mentioned in EP.1 that this series won’t have as many episodes as the A’s franchise. Love the videos as always!
I just like playing on dynamic honestly. I feel it gives a great ratings experience as it adjusts if you’re playing good or bad.
Cane! Strikes can happen more! I think you should look and see if the umpire accuracy can be switched to personality instead of exact. It'll feel more like real baseball too!! Love the vids!
Cane changed the pitching difficulty and still got rocked. Same man lmao
Something is wrong, there’s no way anyone should get pounded on AS pitching 😂
Man, regarding your tangent at 35:00, I totally feel you. Currently going through that with my Buffalo Sabres. 13 year playoff drought, and they fired their 8th coach in that span. It’s tough trying to watch them, let alone hockey, especially when NHL24 has been panned pretty hard as well. I hope I can come around like you did with the Twins
Fellow Sabres fan here. I made the same connection myself. It was tough to watch this year. The drought has almost made it through puberty and will be taking driving lessons soon if the next coach can’t turn this around.
I definitely think you undersold only getting Lesko but in Cane I trust.
I think he fleeced himself. The second guy in that trade will never amount to anything
@@marshfellowman Yep, Lesko’s ceiling is only a 90, at best. I will say though that Goldie is 37. The cliff is so close. I don’t know man. 🤷🏻 I sure hope he gets more for Arenado.
Idk, pitching with years of team control is very valuable to teams right now so I felt it was ok for a 37 y/o impending FA
something nice about clearing that 38 mill a year
@@BigDomDefoort that too
the st. louis fire sale has begun! can’t wait to see how all these deals are gonna turn out. this series is starting off hot cane!
We are so spoiled but I just want more lmao
That Bobby Rico prospect you found at the end of the video looks VERRRRRY intriguing. Hopefully you take a closer look. Buuuuuut, Rick Franklin is more interesting to me, and probably worth the pick, if both are available at the pick you think you would choose them at.
I like the series and I’ll always watch, but Trading a superstar in April is a completely unrealistic move
Would’ve been more realistic imo to keep the core together for a year to see how much you could compete tbh
This was a great episode! I liked the trades so the roster construction can begin - and the talk throughout the game was nice to listen to
Should TRADE Pallante and Carlson in a package so we can see some new players. Maybe for a teenage catcher?
Can’t trade that 12-6 given the history it has on this channel
Instead of switching to all-star, you ought to just tweak the sliders ever so slightly for pitching that way you keep the same hitting!
So ready for another ep and all the future trades/changes. Lets to Cardinals !
Love the videos cane! I feel like hall of fame this year is a bit more difficult. Definitely give it a try on all star would be a nice change!
Completely agree, playing the show got me back into baseball after not caring for it for a long time
Walker could be your 3B after Arrenado is traded.
With classic pitching you do still have to time the pitch, you just have to time it with his release. It will say pitch release timing and it always says very late, its bugged for classic rn, but you do have to time it. Or you did in last years anyway
Tip for the draft: the CPU won’t take any relievers or closers in the 1st round this year
That’s good to know. Literally 7 of the top 10 prospects on the board in my franchise are closers
That's not 100% true. I had a team take a CP in the Top 10 last week.
I feel like your batting camera eliminates visibility of half the strike zone (upper because of the lighting) makes it more difficult for you. I really like the base camera
So what is this series rebuild philosophy? Last year was moneyball 2.0, is it going to be like that again or will it be more power based or what?
I can talk about that next episode
On the pitching side, I think you could stand to mix up pitches a little more. Baseball savant has 2023 Sonny Gray at 20% curve on the first pitch and I think I saw mostly sinker/cutter in this video on the first pitch. I'd be interested to see what the full pitch percentages were after the game in the pitcher analysis sections after the game. I also think some of the struggles are due to poor defensive play. A better fielder than Adell catches that double in the 2nd.
Played with Jo in machine ball back in Louisville, KY! He was a baller at that age.
The way you were talking about how Angels fans are going through a rough time is how I feel as a Bulls fan😂😭
I admire Trout for his loyalty to the Angels, but I want that man traded to a contender so he can hopefully get a title before he retires. Like what the Bruins did with Ray Bourque - trading him to the Avalanche so he could get a Stanley Cup before he retired (because the Bruins were terrible and nowhere near contending).
Just had two good games with HoF pitching, things went awry in the second game though when i started to bring in my relievers. Feels balanced enough for me. Feels like I'm taking the easy way out going down to All-Star but that's just me. HoF hitting is hard but rewarding to me. DISCOVERY is UNDERATED, you can find studs later that the CPU may have no idea exist. Doing an Angels franchise right now, we're 9-6 and im playing to Trout's wishes of staying an Angel for now. However if things go south and it looks like the team misses the playoffs again, I'm trading Trout and will hated throughout Angel Nation as the GM who traded the GOAT, so invested into my storyline...
This felt like watching an old Angels game when the team had all those guys that just drove you nuts with their singles. Chone Figgins, Howie Kendrick, etc.
The immediate change in tone on the realization of that bad baserunning decision had me dying.
Yeah that was definitely not a fair deal should have gotten more out of it
Cards are my favorite team. A tear down+rebuild is usually how I play my franchises with them. Some suggestions:
Arenado trade to LAD - rumored for years and LAD has P prospects to trade
Gorman moves to 3rd, opens up 2B for top prospect Saggesse.
Also, Ivan Herrera should not be a 62 anymore, former top 100 prospect, retooled swing, posting nasty Exit Velos, and has been the best hitter in ‘24 so far
Woah crazy. I am doing a cardinals franchise as well. I also traded Goldy for Dylan Lesko and a fill in add on
In my franchise, I started super early when the show came out so I am in like year 4 or 5 but I started on All-Star and then later with my team got better. I switched to Hall of Fame so I think starting on All-Star and then switching back later is best.
I play the same way you do, but on Legend pitching. You really have to put together pitch sequences. I’ve also plated a few hours on franchise so I’ve gotten used to it.
I’ve always played on all star and have had great fun
I also pitch and bat the same way you do
around 33:00 - Angels fan here. It's tough. Arte Moreno is definitely bottom 5 team owners, if not bottom 3.
I still can't quit the team, I've just come to accept (and expect) the disappointment. My Dad's been following the team since the 70s, and even in 2002, until they won the WS, he kept saying "None of it counts until the final out of the championship is recorded. the only sure thing is that they will find a way to be disappointing." It wasn't until the last ~3 years that I really started to understand his negativity.
I love our little rinky dink stadium. Dodger stadium has much better food, entertainment, fan engagement areas and organization.. but the Big A is a stupid little treasure.
Should we look into changing Masyn Winn's stats I noticed they only gave him 80ish arm even when he can rip it 100 mph and also only 84 speed?
Even Legend pitching seems too easy at times. If I played on AS I’d probably shutout the cpu almost every game. Hitting on the other hand is tough, even HOF is very challenging.
I like to play with Dynamic difficulty. The better you play, the higher it gets and vice versa. I like it because the games to adjusts to how I'm playing rather than playing on a singular difficulty.
If you want to try all-star pitching difficulty this would be a good season to try it out as it's unlikely you make the playoffs, so if its to0 easy it won't make that big an impact. Also, you tend to discover more prospects if you do discovery in the International region
Definitely think we need to trade Arenado this year at least, and I would also argue in favor of trading Sonny Gray. I think you should treat this like the Texans did in the nfl, get rid of all of your veterans who have trade value and just bring it a bunch of guys and see who can carve out a roll next season.
If they cardinals traded goldy in april, i imagine those fans would force you to be fired. Very unrealistic to not wait until july
I think to add an element to the Goldschmidt deal you should’ve took back cronenworth in the deal as that provides them cap flexibility and gives a stable starter to you while you rebuild this team from the ground up, wouldn’t have to give up much of anything in return
im in year two of a rockies franchise with default sliders on hall of fame, so it might just be the control on your pitchers being low and not going where you think?
Did he seriously just drop Pitching Difficulty to All-Star? Lmao what a joke..
No discipline and no contact… Rico would have an amazing .275 obp… jokes aside I’d still take him in a late round as long as his lower end of his potential is 78+
I think your biggest issue with pitching may be not using the sinker enough.
If you think it was hard being a Twins fan in the ‘00s and’10s, try being a Twins fan from the mid-‘70s to the mid-‘80s. No playoffs at all and very few winning seasons from ‘71 until our first World Series win in ‘87.
Yea early stages of playing this yrs Show Luis Rengifo is a tough out
biblically accurate Gifo
jason waller being 6’4 233 with no power is hilarious considering every third baseman in the draft is 5’7 170 with power in the 90s
IMHO, All Star is too easy. Hall of Fame is fine, you just have to pitch a bit more carefully...we got away with far too much in the past. You have to lean on the pitchers best offerings, and pay attention to confidence. Mix up speeds & actually know the batters tendencies a little. Defense matters WAY more, too. Its definitely harder. Plus, your current roster is baaaaad. Your defense is brutal. (Walker costs you runs today, playing the outfield). You can adjust the sliders a little if you feel something particular is out of whack, but you are an experienced enough player to handle the slight changes. Also, All Star plays weird. The ways in which they lower the difficulty ruined the immersion for me. The ratings seem far less relevant. Just my 2 cents, but i was in the same position and figured it out...now im digging it even more than past years. Youll get it, Cane. Just keep having fun, the difficulty setting is really, whatevs, as long as you continue to enjoy making content.
as an Angels fan I am one of those that actually didnt mind seeing Ohtani leave for the Dodgers because of what it meant for the Angels lineup and rotation now that Ohtani is gone. Now the Angels have no one that is a FT DH to be able to get Trout and Rendon off the field more while not losing their bats for the day. Rotation wise now the Angels go back to a 5 man rotation and allow the starters to be on a more authentic regiment where they know they will pitch every 5th day and not have their starts be a thing where one time its on 4 days rest and one time its 5 days rest and one time its on 6 days rest
I think the way you have your pitching, all-star may be the call. but maybe give it a couple more games.
just noticing all of your pitches say very late release, not sure if you’re supposed to time it somehow and maybe that would help, I still recommend pulse pitching but understand why you wouldnt want to
I don't know that it's the difficulty level so much as it is the pitching rotation being hot garbagio.
Im a cardinals fan and can tell you that our Pitchers are trash
@@shawntussey4941 I am also a Cards fan hahaha
Cane keep Gorman on the team couples years down the line he can win MVPs hitting 50-60 home runs
I do Hall of Fame hitting and Legend pitching with timing and classic and the pitching seems to be realistic for me over a good sample size
this brotha not touching legend lol he already considering allstar
I know this series is supposed to be realistic so I really can't get behind dumping Goldy so early. The Cardinals just signed Sonny Gray to a big deal, they are def not trying to aggressively move into a rebuild. I don't have any qualms about the trade itself, but the timing of it is extremely unrealistic.
Wish there were more hitters with high discipline, high power in the draft. Its pretty unrealistic that every single high walk guy also doesn't strike out and don't hit for power.
I don't know man. That Paul Goldschmidt deal wasn't good, in my opinion. Realistically, I can see them giving more for the current #1 NL MVP contender. I think you got fleeced really hard. The second guy should've been a really good B prospect.
I will say Lesko was a good choice. Just wish the second player was better and made more sense.
Kinda disagree. Goldy's 37 and just a rental. I know in the Show last year his ratings always dropped off hard and fast. Cane got a needed top pitching prospect. I feel like it was either get one good A prospect or two mid B prospects. Argument could be made that in baseball go with the quantity hoping to have a better chance of at least one panning out but.. it's his game. Maybe could have seen finding an A that's a little closer to a 70 overall, but not every team is gonna have that along with a need at 1B. All that said, I wouldn't have felt like Cane robbed the cpu if the second player had been a little better, maybe like a younger C potential.
I'm not sure what's going on with your pitching, I am in a franchise with much worse pitchers on hall of fame using classic and it isn't even close to this bad when I user them, not sure why these pitchers struggle so much
Keep it on HOF and put it on dynamic then it will put you at your true difficulty over time.
I haven’t even seen the trade yet but it doesn’t make sense to trade an mvp candidate this early in the season. It doesn’t matter that they are 7-14, they would wait until teams are desperate to trade and get a TON for him
Trout for Jackson Holliday, Samuel Basallo and Coby Mayo. Simulated through 2024 and trout posted an over 1.000 ops and 52 bombs. Realistic or nah? Orioles coming off a 91 win season too.
I personally can't seem to lose against the cpu on all star, I never allow more than 4-5 hits in a game. I tended to struggle against hall of fame but for some reason it feels much more balanced when I do HOF with quick counts on
barely mid-April and Hurriicane made a trade, gotta be the earliest I've ever seen
Ohio is Central btw
I feel like trading goldy at this point in the season is a bit premature
Does anyone know what roster cane used for his franchise? Is it the default one?
Could make sense to flip Crawford at the deadline to a contender who needs bench/defense sub help. I'd say a lottery ticket pitching prospect would get it done.
What a silly trade. In April no less.
Gomez-Phelps is a must draft
Every pitch release you threw was very late timing. Seems like there is some kind of timing for the pitching this year that’s being missed or a bug?
I'll have to look into that. Typically there's no other input involved.
@@MrHurriicaneLPcould be wrong but I think there’s a pitch type that’s similar but with timing I know that fielding has that and it’s hard to notice the names are similar messed me up for a few games on my franchise
I really don’t think you should switch to all star. If anything in the past I thought your pitching difficulty needed to be harder. Please stay on hof, the future will benefit from the difficulty
The difference in difficulty is that there’s a glitch in the game where all pitches are very late release so all pitches you throw are terrible
i want to see luken baker in the show at some point ik he won’t be around in the franchise but give him his glory one time cane
44:21 for Classic pitching I think all star works out the best for you.
Cane keep Gorman on the team couples years down the line he can win MVPs hitting 50-60 homeruns
I play on veteran and that’s only bc I suck at this game sooo bad. I’ve play every show game since the start and I cannot get better. I think I just suck at the game, I wish I was good enough to give DD a try.
Def should got more for Goldie. It wasn’t realistic guys I understand he’s 37 and a rental. U have to realize it’s only 29 games into the season which he is the mvp in the league rn and it’s not a trade deadline accusation where he’s only there for 50 games. This is a guy that could be the difference in bringing a good team to a great team and could be the one thing needed to make a contender a World Series champ. To do this isn’t realistic at al for 1 prospect. He would easily get a two of a teams top 10 prospects or if cane wanted to make it real instead of the trash guy he threw in he could of at least threw in a 25 year old mlb ready player rn. Like a guy w c or even b potential low to mid 70s that can step right in and play and possibly be a future piece. That and Lesko would be more realistic and also fair for both teams imo
Classic, timing, all star.
Auto fielding, auto base running.
Turn off strike zone & feedbacks.
Full immersion.
That trade was crap.
Surprised you didn’t go after Ethan Salas as well
Maybe you should change you’re camera when batting, I’d personally suggest catcher
alot of the hitting is the game being alot more lenient on late and early swings with good hitters, alot of those random flare swings that wouldve been outs in the A’s franchise are rewarded now
If you feel like all star pitching is good for the franchise, then it is good for the franchise
Edman lead off, Nootbaar two hole, Gorman/Nolan
Try some different pitches and locations
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YOU HAVE A SCOUT WITH 65 pitching rating scouting pitchers that’s not good. It’s not an accurate report. You want your scouts to have at least like 87-90 range for pitchers or position players with high efficiency so they get more scouting done quicker
The higher the rating for pitcher or position player the more accurate the report will be
What prospect that is way too short for their position will MLB the Show generate today lol
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You should find guys with speed and stealing ability. Why not try get some speed this year.
The 4 lefties in a row vs lhp ain’t working cane🤷🏽♂️5678 hitters are all lefty that needs to be changed asap. It’s the third time I noticed it I thought maybe it was just one game cus of injuries or something but it’s consistently like that
He should’ve traded Goldie for Corbin Carol and moved Jordan Walker to first since he would probably be better at defense there