My uncle put extra air-conditioned condenser like the one inside the cab/ and installed that inside the air filter box all air that goes to turbo it cool and dense more psi onthe cylinder and that it's cool more power/ hot air expend the metal and that's not good. Loose components that's why the oil in the engine just get black quick if it's cool oil motor its very clean and power to top..
Dpf is a complete scam. It doesn’t help the environment. It hurts it bc u have to idle it for 45-60 minutes get exhaust temp up to 1200 degrees. It’s also unsafe for truckers bc ur truck can basically shut down in the middle of an interstate. I’ve seen that happen numerous times. All it does is put money in the shop and parts pocket 🤬🤬🤬
@@abmtz8537 theres charts out there that show the comparison between various trucks. If you have one truck that’s a 2006 for example that gets 7 mpg, and you have a 2020 that gets 5 mpg, it could take 100 2020 trucks to equal the emissions of just one 2006 truck. Fuel consumption doesn’t equate to pollution. You could get 1 mpg in a 2020 and 12 mpg in a 2006, and the 2020 would still pollute less.
@@user-ln7of9gs4s we’re still using more of a non-renewable resource which we get from fracing and drilling which also has a really negative impact on the environment and ecosystems.
I specialize in deletes and tunes on CAT and Cummins engines. To fully understand the delete you need to know what the emissions actually do. The EGR recirculates inert gases(Spent, burn't, nothing) to lower cylinder temps, in theory to reduce Nitrous of Oxides (pollution). The DPF catches soot before being expelled. In the DPF is NoX sensors and pressure differential sensors that measure the soot load of the cans. You still have to physically remove the DPF/DOC to have them cleaned. The SCR is the catalyst. The diesel fuel injected after the turbo through the Doser Valve chemically reacts with the DEF fluid injected into the cross over pipe between the DPF and SCR. When the engine is doing a Regen the motor acts like a fan to blow out the SCR. This system restricts the the engine like a lung breathing, the effect is: derated power, poor fuel economy and longevity of the engines life. To quickly explain the delete process that you touched on, I'll quickly break it down for context; Cap the EGR, remove the DPF and SCR removing everything inside them. For the tuning, most tunes uploaded are based around a Cummins 570cm engine(pre emmisions). There are custom tunes out there but basically they're turning them back into 570's. That's a quick breakdown to describe it correctly.
I have allot of friends ask me about the DEF system . I just tell them it's a more complicated version of the catalyst in our cars . I'd say you gave the most complete description that I've ever heard . Well done . Now as far as the video , are they actually scanning these trucks to find the delete , or is it just the obvious ones that remove the parts that are shut down ?
Just curious here ya’ll if you delete your semi how do you get around DOT inspections? How detailed do they inspect if pulled into the scales or on the road stop checks
Just throwing this out there, Seen a video from a tuning company (i think was from PDI) that made twin turbo isx3 kits that were supposed to fit the emissions, the twin kit only included 1 turbo, it was non vgt, and non wastegated, but it all fit in place with the factory turbo. The crazy part is their goal for the kit was to include a pump in 30% more power, as well better fuel economy. In order to do this with the twin kit, they needed to back the variable timing on the factory turbo by 20%. Truck had outstanding power, My thoughts to anyone doing a delete, and blocking the EGR. Since your blocking the EGR off and removing the scr, catalyst, and dpf filter. all the exhaust is going straight to the turbo so its going to pickup much faster and yes could burn the bearings out because its spinning much faster, and more rapid than the VGT's were actually designed to do. They were built to spin up faster from less exhaust pressure,
I am repairing one of their abortions right now, when I am finished, that PDI, or PDI style delete, will be costing the owner of the truck roughly $15,000 with parts, labor and programing. Thankfully, I caught this in time before the engine failed.
Driving a 2017 pro star with a delete. DEF gauge has a light and needle loops all the way around past full. No black smoke or anything. Runs pretty good, but told company I ain’t driving it no more. .55 cents ain’t enough plus theres a situation with AC always fing up.
How do we get in touch with u Ryan, will be purchasing a truck soon and I love the way u help with the info and would like for u to be on my A list of mechanics, u have a pure heart of gold with helping others and there needs to be more guys like u
Good afternoon. First of all “great video”. I have a 2011 International 4300. My mechanic just eliminate the def system. Then he reset everything with his computer. When he finished I try to drive my truck and when I gear to Drive position or Reverse it will shake alot before it starts running. When running it makes a loud noise and doesnt go more than 10 miles per hour. I need help to fix this issue please.
Hi Ryan I watched most of your videos very informative and money saving tips. I have a question about a code for the EGR, the code is p1488 (EGR valve out of calibration) which is throwing other codes (p1496, p1515 and p3797) that would not let me do a forced regen to protect the engine. The question is: can the EGR be re-calibrated with software or do I have to replace it with a new one? I took the after-treatment apart and I cleaned it myself, it came out pretty good and I know that because i used J pro diagnostics (borrowed it from a friend ) and the differential pressure shows 0.54 psi on the DEF inlet pressure and 0.07 psi on the DPF outlet pressure at idle. I will appreciate any advice keep up those good videos thank you. by the way, my truck is a 2019 Kenworth t680 with Paccar mx13
We are seeing more deleted trucks come in with thrown rods, they usually do the most complaining until they are told we know it’s deleted do you want us to fix it?
@@terrellscaife2411 EPA is cracking down on places that do deletes and companies that sell components for deletes so most of it is done over the internet now, never know what you will get. We got one in the shop now it’s deleted guy bought it at a auction claims he didn’t know he called the auction fuming they are pissed they will go after the person who put it in the auction it really turns into a shitstorm
I would tell you no I won’t give you a penny with that snitch mentality, plenty of shops out there no need to pay a shop with a bunch of girls working on my truck
@@squarebiz1973 Thank you for responding man. Ill be getting mine tomorrow so Im excited af. They hit me for 3,500 so looks like I overpaid but not by much. Are you ever worried about DOT or EPA?
@@RK-yu7mp 3500 is right in the ballpark, some are as high as 4k, so no worries there. As far as the DOT and EPA are concerned, not worried at all and I run California. One thing I did do was had the weed burner exhaust pipe converted to the stack style like the older trucks because you'll blow black smoke from time to time and since it's blowing under the truck it's very noticeable. It smokes out 4 wheelers riding next to you. That would be a clear give away to the authorities, so instead with the stack you blow it in the air and it just looks like an old truck and no one knows the difference. That retro fit cost me like 900.00.
You know...I changed to a B&W waste gated from a Garrett and I'm not feeling nor seeing a difference. My fuel mpg is the same and hills still are hills. Maybe I'm running at 430hp instead of 470hp. Care to describe you total tunes? I'm in a 2015 Columbia.
@@willmann30 I did a BW K31 and a Full-tilt Manifold on my 99 12.7 Columbia. You don't need to tune but when I went from a 430 tune to a 500 tune the difference was crazy. Went from 6.2mpg to about 7, temps went down and climbs well with a 10 speed. Highly recommend a ceramic coated manifold and a good tune to match your injector size.
The funny thing is they could actually design the program to run the DPF/SCR without an EGR/VGT combination. But that money they wanna continue to steal from the hard working American truck driver. The EGR/VGT is the most problematic thing ever in the diesel industry.
Hopefully we'll get that archates opposed piston motor that meets emissions regulations with only a catalyst and burns half the fuel of a normal engine
Please tell me about it, already spent a ton of money on my def system... about 8000 on dozer injectors, dlc, dpf filter, sensors and I can’t freaking remember what else. AND I’M SICK AND TIRED OF THIS 💩 always having issues with it
I'm running a company truck 2013 volvo deleted Cummins. Runs like a champ. Oil stays pretty clean. If I dont idle alot overnight I don't even need to add between services.
@@heronramirez8073 I wish I could give you more information about the delete but I don't know anything about that. But the engine runs great. Best of luck to you
If your thinking about deleting. It’s easier to buy a used glider kit with a older engine or just put money into a older truck. Saves a lot of headache in the long run.
Ryan, We have an 2008 Ford LCF with a 4.5 Navistar engine....someone stole both DPF and converter....do you know how to bypass these and maintain a good running truck? Any information you can suggest would be appreciated..tyvm
@@StickNclutch Maintenance free crankcase filter (lifetime), synthetic oil change like that you can run on somewhere 30K-50K miles depending on the type of runs you do.
hello boss thanks for the good info really helps i have a hino reefer box truck and is delete but its going into regent so how can i fix this i have the flashing regen light any info in from pennsylvania thank you happy holadays
I did the delete on my CAT SDP C15 And knocked the filter totaley out , switched to a single turbo and ceramic coated exhaust manifold with wider ports from PDI , installed wide open mufflers, and it started to run as it should. I did it at around 800K miles, now I have 1.2 on it and still runs like a champ, so far all I did is to replace the 6 pack at 1.1 M. I almost got bankrupt, it was me and my family, or the EPA and the tree huggers. LET'S GO BRANDON.🥒🥒
@@Vlad_Kalashnik Sorry, I can't help you with this. I didn't do it myself, I paid to get it done, and it's not the type of service that can be advertised on social media, especially these days. Unfortunately, it's like back in the days of our old countries where walls have ears 😊. I don't know where you're located, but, judging by your name, you shouldn't have a problem finding someone to do it for you; they are pretty much everywhere, and it should cost you about $1500. Good luck.
QUICK QUESTION CAN I REGISTER MY TRUCK ANY US STATE WITH DPF AND EGR DELETE ?THE TRUCK PASS EMISIONS INSPECTION WITH DPF AND EGR DELETE ?SOMEONE KNOW ABOUT IT
I cannot speak for other states. As far as Ohio, they do not check emission system when you register for conmercial trucks as long as all the emission components are still here. As far as emission inspection, they have to hook your truck to a computer to check the emission to see if it works.
I think you need a presence in the state you want to register it like office etc. If you notice most big companies will have most their trucks like that like you won't see many big companies have a truck with a california plate on it cause its cheaper to register it in another state.
Hey guys, I brought a dd15 not long ago and have found that the dpf has been deleted, my question is does that delete the egr as well because only the (hot) side has been blocked off not the other side do I need to double check with a computer that will be safe to do or just block it off? Thanks in advance
I have volvo D13 and I have a lot of problems with DPF,can you please suggest me someone who can delete it right for me, I am tired spending money and time for nothing in dealerships
Deleting a truck properly is not an easy endeavor, there are roughly 100,000 parameters in the programing, including tables that need to be looked at and adjusted accordingly. Simply uploading a file, like 99% of these tuners do, is a recipe for disaster.
@@michaelwright1602Doing it right means doing up to five revisions of the trucks software to make sure everything that needs to be off is off and that the rest of the engine is working properly. As in you read the trucks own software and then you modify it, you don't just upload some premade software. Some people don't have the patience for it.
I'm going to run for senate one day. Getting rid of this def nonsense will be top 5 things to get done day 1. Or they will have to make it affordable. $4000 for filters 899 for a little def temp sensor wiring harness days would end quick fast and in a hurry 😅 vote for me 2028.
So by canceling the egr...you pretty much stop the hot exhaust from circulating back into your engine and now the exhaust gasses go straight to the exhaust manifold ?
No your ecm will detect an engine faults from the egr dpf/scr system and derate your power to basically limp mode or severely reduced power . Everything must be turned off with the tune so the engine control module and aftertreatment control module will no longer be looking for those inputs from the emissions system ... in essence what your doing when you tune your engine and delete the emissions on it your taking the engine back to pre emissions operation just with all the emissions stuff appearing to be intact . Benefit is engine will run great and work like it should with better fuel economy , more power less heat in the engine and actually breath the way it should .. Cons of doing it is the possibility of huge fines and they start at like 25k and up from there if your caught and you will need to restore it back to factory setup and it's not cheap to do.. Because even though it appears to be intact like factory at appearance. All they need to do is look at your exhuast stack and see the black soot coming out of the pipe that didn't exist before the delete and or do an opacity test on your engine at an inspection and when the Rev it up for the snap test they will see big puffs of smoke coming out and it will fail the opacity test and then your done .. so does it work ? 100% but is it worth it if you get caught? 100% NO ... so it's a catch 22 ... And when mechanics have to hook up to check it for engine e.c.m issues cuz you will still have sensors and stuff go bad on the motor , if the mechanic don't know it's deleted and trys to do any kind of regen or calibration update with that deleted file in the e.c.m it's gonna screw everything all up and I'f your e.c.m fails for whatever reason and you require a new one you have to have the same person that did your delete tune to redo it just so you can run your truck and most dealers and shops won't even work on your truck if they know it's been deleted .....
Hello, just got this 2004 MBE4000 it’s a Cali truck and has retrofitted DPF system . My question is can I just unplug everything and get rid of the DPF since it’s not required in Arizona ?. Thx
Yes, purchase a factory exhaust system with out a DPF and reflash the trucks computer to stock. Plus remove module that controls it all. It’s completely legal since it’s a non factory aftermarket part.
Just take the filter out and drill holes in the Catalyst putting a detroit turbo is a red flag that its deleted. My 2010 ISX was deleted 300,000 miles ago and I've never had a problem since and I'm almost 1.3 million miles
I have a 2011 international 4300 box truck. Brand new motor and turbo. It will dump a crazy huge amount of blue smoke every hour or so on the highway. Does not use DEF fluid it uses the trucks diesel. Can it be deleted?
There's a mechanic on our job almost every day.. Def Engines Fucking Up Again.. Only equipment and trucks that don't have any problems are the ones without DEF. That shits putting people out of business quicker than the fuel prices.
Seriously paid $2600 truck ran for about 15 days broke down again … force regan $400 road side …… truck ran another 10 days take it back shop mechanic tells me best just deleted it cause the amount $$ cost pay repost no guarantee it will give me Longer then 30 days when from def to dpf issue 😫😫😫
When you do this . They stick a rod down your pipe . Or have the overhead. Then they pull you around back, and have a Real close look. Save your engine but get a fine.
I did a delete on my 2017 Peterbilt 579 with a Cummins ISX and when I idle the truck for more than 1 hour every time I give it throttle white smoke comes out of the exhaust but the smoke goes away after driving on the highway but when I come to a stop and let the truck idle again it repeats the same time.. any suggestions???
Sounds like a typical bad delete, who did it? Did they remove anything from your motor, EGR Cooler, EGR Valve, VG Turbo? Did they cut any wires? Were the cans totally gutted, all of them? Not holes drilled, but gutted right to the metal? Also your fuel pump, that needs to be rebuilt at roughly 400,000 miles, as they are still failing. The white smoke could also be a leaky injector. Do you have pyrometer and turbo boost gauge in the cab? How much boost are you producing? Engine oil temps too, where are they?
@@Trevor7727 negative. The exhaust is to reduce combustion temps and reduce nox production. It's counterproductive bs. A high flow catalytic converter pumped with atmospheric air to keep it super hot and burn off any waste petroleum/fuel would be more productive, and is how the dpf works anyway.
Yeah I have a 2018 cascadia. 400k I don't idle I don't leave it running I have an apu. Started getting codes now.. with only 400k. .thinking about doing a delete. don't want to change sensors and shit
Do an EGR Tuneup, and it may be time to either replace the DPF/DOC filters or have them baked and de-ashed. You will also need to remove and clean the EGR Valve and it would be a good idea to remove and clean the EGR Cooler too. Also the emission sensors on the intake and exhaust side should be replaces with new OEM sensors. All parts should be OEM that you put on your motor.
So who is a reliable tuner? I have an isx15 and I read an article where supposedly blocking off the egr cooler a because that coolant feeds cyl #6 or something. Also that the turbo builds enough boost to crack the head. Can anyone here with an isx15 and a delete share your experience
I have a Cummins that been deleted for about 6 months, now I have been exhaust fumes in cab and where the dpf under my passenger step , can smell exhaust...any suggestions?
Follow your exhaust pipes all the way to your engine change all the washers, rings, and clamps Make sure you put NEW everything on Literally just went through the same thing had to delete the EGR after deleting the def Hope this helps you man
They did a crap delete, more than likely your DPF/DOC/SCR cans are all intact, or they simply drilled a couple of holes in them. They all need to be gutted. Is your truck still running?
Awesome, all that nonsense in the name of carbon. Unbelievable, plant more trees would be much ideal and cost effective than bankrupting owner operators
Well def just concentrates the soot. What the California snowflakes were crying about was "oh deisels killing the planet look at all that black smoke" so they created a system that does nothing more than concentrate the soot and dump it on the ground instead of spitting it in the air. Trucks now burn more feul, emit the same, and waste more material costing more. They have made what thwy claim to be helping worse
@@kenworthkid998 dpf and def are two different things and you don’t know the difference. You really should research what these machines do because it is both interesting and effective at eliminating carcinogens and greenhouse gases that affect climate change. The problems it solves are very real.
@@rudeliorodriqueziii1090 no shit Sherlock but you cant have one without the other. Go find a truck with a dpf system that doesnt have def. My point was its all part of a bullshit system that does fuck all. And you should do some research i drive and repair these things for a living
Actually there are several trucks with DPF and no DEF. DPF was mandated in 2007 and DEF in 2011. DEF doesn't do anything for soot, it reduces NOX. DPF burns soot. That having been said DEF releases ammonia, which it turns out kills trees, which is worse than what NOX does. You don't know much for someone who supposedly "drives and repairs these things for a living".
@@xMods-ld8nx You need to gut the DPF/DOC and SCR filters. If you leave any of them intact, or drill holes in them, you will simply destroy the turbo over time, and eventually the motor. In frames start at $28,000
Yes, see my post above, I am repairing a bad delete on a Cummins CM-871 right now. The cost to the owner will be roughly $15,000 with parts, labor and programming.
I am fixing one of these delete abortions right now, Cummins CM-871. What a F'ing mess, Big Tuner Shop, PDI style, stripped the motor of everything except the VG Turbo. When I removed the turbo, chunks of soot and carbon came pouring out, I have no idea how it held together, it is being replaced, along with a new actuator. The DPF/DOC cans only had a few holes drilled in them, instead of being hollowed out, that is what destroyed the turbo, high heat from a face plugged filter. They removed the EGR Cooler and did not install a coolant bypass kit to cool the #5 and #6 cylinders. So, need a bypass kit... I believe I caught this in time before any more serious engine damage occured. Then they replaced the factory water pump with a unit off of a CM-570, so I need a new water pump and housing too. Then all of the RTV (Mr Gasket) that they used on that pump. Now I have to strip down the cooling system in search of RTV boogers. Then the high heat issues, going to have to change out the oil cooler, oil and coolant thermostats, and God knows what else. Right now I am $8000 deep into this mess, when all said and done, I think with parts, and my labor, $15,000 easily. If only the previous owner would have simply completed an EGR Tuneup and replaced the DOC and DPF filters, none of this would have happened. There was no need to strip this motor of thousands of dollars in parts, destroy the turbo, and all of the other issues it is now facing. And I have not even gotten into the programming yet.
Ninety nine percent of the deletes going around out there are butchered and hacked programs going all the way back to 2008 - 2010. They are files that have been floating around on the internet for years. Sadly, these are the same files many of these so called big name tuners use. I have seen a few of their files, not to mention that each motor is designated for the specific model truck it is in. It is the norm to see one of these engine killing files meant for say a KW, in a Volvo, pick your flavor. Sadly, these are tunes many folks pay thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars for. Normally, within a year, the motor has cooked or ate itself, in frame time. It would have been a heck of a lot cheaper to learn and maintain that emission system... Keep reading... Then the cans, they have to be completely hollowed out. Every bit needs to be removed in the DPF/DOC and SCR. you don't, you are cooking the motor as the cans will now become face plugged and the destruction will comense. they have to be gutted, you cannot get away with drilling a few holes or making one 4 inch hole in the can. And that is a common problem with the big name and parking lot tuners, they instal a garbage program that has been recycled a hundred times over into your ECM and then tell you they hollowed out the cans, and they did not, or they tell you there is no need to do that, as it was taken care of with the programming. Don't be stupid folks... If you have a newer truck, and you are getting fault codes and all of that nonsense associtated with these EPA trucks, why don't you figure out the systems and use proper maintenance intervals to keep these systems functioning in tip top shape? Complete regularly scheduled EGR Tuneups, do these annually or bi-annually, depending upon miles driven and conditions. Replace the sensors, the dosers, maintain the SCR filter with regular filter changes, bake the cans and or replace when needed, etc... Install a bypass oil filtration system, Amsoil makes a universal kit you can mount on your truck. This will help keep the soot load out of the motor oil, which in time eats away at your bearings, cam(s) and lobes. And this is not an Amsoil commercial, they make the filter kit, I know many guys that do use them with great success, and you can use any oil filter that fits. Just change it out say every four months or quarterly. And oil, use regular oil, stay away from the synthetics... And those extended oil changes? They are killing your motor! Change the oil every 8,000 to 18,000 miles, depending on how your operation is run. Always hauling mid to light weight loads, running the midwest and south, 15,000 - 18,000 miles is fine. Running the oil fields, alway at gross or in that 100,000 lb range, maybe every 8,000 miles would be a proper interval. Extended drains will kill these EPA motors, all of that soot is still there, it collects in the oil, call it liquid sandpaper. Than the additive package in the oil, in time it stops working, then you may as well be running baby oil in the motor. Change the oil on a regular and scheduled time frame. Don't buy this extended oil change BS the dealers and the engine manufacturers tell you, they love to see you in the shop, especially for things like camshafts and rollers... Easy money, and very predictable if you operate under an extended oil change interval. They know the game, as they wrote the book. Bottom line, learn the mechanics of your truck, and quit relying on these shops and dealers who know less about your truck than you do. You run a business, start acting like an owner and take charge of the most important part of truck ownership. I have lost count of all of the guys I know that were put out of business due to their laziness and relying upon warranties and the thieves at the local dealership to properly fix their truck. Don't be that guy. Learn your equipment and how to maintain it!
I like all of that. My only problem is that these lobbyists (def people sent them to pass regulations), are greedy af. Make these parts affordable. The price of the filters is almost an inframe. Get real. I deleted my kw. No issues since.
@@travieso1ruvalcaba672 Totally agree, the prices for these emission parts is OUTRAGEOUS! CARB, back in the mid 2000's, tasked a California university with testing the diesel particulates from these new emission systems in regards to health and public safety. They wanted to know exactly what was coming out of these new emission motor's exhaust. The scientists found the DPF/DOC equipped motors were more harmful to humans, and the environment, than our previous old non-EGR equipped trucks. They discovered the particulates, the final product of these emission motors, are now so small they go directly through clothing and skin, directly to your bloodstream. The particulates were said to be cancerous. Imagine that? The folks doing this study recommended doing away with these emission systems for the public's health and safety until a new means to this emission issue could be found. The study was ignored. Can you imagine how much worse it is now with these DEF/SCR systems? And of course this study was quickly scrubbed from the internet, I had the link at one time, and of course it quit working soon after my discovery.
No,, only if the dealership or some professional shop decides to be a asshole they can keep your truck until you fix it,, if they found out you deleted it
yeah I want to gamble on who is a arsehole and who isnt... thanks I'll just stay legal. also your taking a big gamble deleting and then having bigger issues with heads turbos etc. not worth it buy a 2007 if you don't want the emissions nightmares.
@@fxstc111well no its not a gamble i know where not to take it to like MHC and any dealer,, other than that i have no problem i can even go to TA or any regular shop 2nd with my truck has no problem since i delete it and i put almost 300,000 miles on a cummins
Yep, whoever hacked your truck did not clean out the cans, all of that exhaust is building pressure as the DOC filter face plugs. The hot exhaust has nowhere to escape too, so it starts bleeding through the exhaust and turbo, and eventually destroys the turbo, and normally the CAC along with it.
The worst flywheel blowup I saw was a disgruntled driver who rolled down a hill with his truck in 3rd or 4th gear with the clutch disengaged then popped the pedal at about 50 mph thinking he would blow the engine. Wrong. The flywheel disintegrated sending a pie shaped wedge through the bellhousing and dog house then wedging itself into the bottom of the dash. Mass doesn’t like to overspeed. Guys my age will remember the OVERSPEED light on the dash. DPF delete?? YES. Diesels are engineered to breath.
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My uncle put extra air-conditioned condenser like the one inside the cab/ and installed that inside the air filter box all air that goes to turbo it cool and dense more psi onthe cylinder and that it's cool more power/ hot air expend the metal and that's not good. Loose components that's why the oil in the engine just get black quick if it's cool oil motor its very clean and power to top..
Dpf is a complete scam. It doesn’t help the environment. It hurts it bc u have to idle it for 45-60 minutes get exhaust temp up to 1200 degrees. It’s also unsafe for truckers bc ur truck can basically shut down in the middle of an interstate. I’ve seen that happen numerous times. All it does is put money in the shop and parts pocket 🤬🤬🤬
Well it'll only shut down if you neglect it for a really really long time
My mpg’s also went up after delete. I just don’t know how burning more fuel is better for the environment.
Not to mention the EPA never were given the authority to make the laws regarding the after treatment system .
@@abmtz8537 theres charts out there that show the comparison between various trucks. If you have one truck that’s a 2006 for example that gets 7 mpg, and you have a 2020 that gets 5 mpg, it could take 100 2020 trucks to equal the emissions of just one 2006 truck.
Fuel consumption doesn’t equate to pollution. You could get 1 mpg in a 2020 and 12 mpg in a 2006, and the 2020 would still pollute less.
@@user-ln7of9gs4s we’re still using more of a non-renewable resource which we get from fracing and drilling which also has a really negative impact on the environment and ecosystems.
I specialize in deletes and tunes on CAT and Cummins engines. To fully understand the delete you need to know what the emissions actually do. The EGR recirculates inert gases(Spent, burn't, nothing) to lower cylinder temps, in theory to reduce Nitrous of Oxides (pollution). The DPF catches soot before being expelled. In the DPF is NoX sensors and pressure differential sensors that measure the soot load of the cans. You still have to physically remove the DPF/DOC to have them cleaned. The SCR is the catalyst. The diesel fuel injected after the turbo through the Doser Valve chemically reacts with the DEF fluid injected into the cross over pipe between the DPF and SCR. When the engine is doing a Regen the motor acts like a fan to blow out the SCR. This system restricts the the engine like a lung breathing, the effect is: derated power, poor fuel economy and longevity of the engines life.
To quickly explain the delete process that you touched on, I'll quickly break it down for context; Cap the EGR, remove the DPF and SCR removing everything inside them. For the tuning, most tunes uploaded are based around a Cummins 570cm engine(pre emmisions). There are custom tunes out there but basically they're turning them back into 570's. That's a quick breakdown to describe it correctly.
Wow thanks for the info . It was really helpful. I deleted mines to my isx Cummins. And I haven’t had a problem since.
I have allot of friends ask me about the DEF system . I just tell them it's a more complicated version of the catalyst in our cars . I'd say you gave the most complete description that I've ever heard . Well done . Now as far as the video , are they actually scanning these trucks to find the delete , or is it just the obvious ones that remove the parts that are shut down ?
Hey, are you saying that after the delete the DPF/DOC has to be cleaned?
@@polotrucker1345 what the DOC ?
@@javierherrera7276 diesel oxidation catalyst (doc)
Instead of destroying the 1 box can you run the exhaust behind the box ?
egr on a diesel is like forcing a human to eat their own shit and expecting them survive a long normal life.
What turner software would you recommend to delete a 2016 Freightliner cascadia evolution?
Just curious here ya’ll if you delete your semi how do you get around DOT inspections? How detailed do they inspect if pulled into the scales or on the road stop checks
90% of the US don’t inspect those things. Theres only a few states who do.
I'm still trying to figure out where to find the EGR in my 82 359
It's located behind the muffler bearings.
@@garrimcclure5767 Ha lmao
We were smarter back then
thanks i got stuck with a maxxforce needed to hear this
How's the Maxx force running?
@@mauricewhaley1322 after almost 9,000 dollars in repair it's running ok missed out on class action suit. Was unaware of dpf issues before I purchased
@@davidneal7060 I drove a prostar years ago that had one in it it pulled strong no trouble hell I liked them they were pretty quiet
Maurice Whaley I would love any information on the prostar maxxforce ,dpf system keeps costing me money
Just throwing this out there,
Seen a video from a tuning company (i think was from PDI) that made twin turbo isx3 kits that were supposed to fit the emissions, the twin kit only included 1 turbo, it was non vgt, and non wastegated, but it all fit in place with the factory turbo.
The crazy part is their goal for the kit was to include a pump in 30% more power, as well better fuel economy. In order to do this with the twin kit, they needed to back the variable timing on the factory turbo by 20%.
Truck had outstanding power,
My thoughts to anyone doing a delete, and blocking the EGR.
Since your blocking the EGR off and removing the scr, catalyst, and dpf filter. all the exhaust is going straight to the turbo so its going to pickup much faster and yes could burn the bearings out because its spinning much faster, and more rapid than the VGT's were actually designed to do.
They were built to spin up faster from less exhaust pressure,
I am repairing one of their abortions right now, when I am finished, that PDI, or PDI style delete, will be costing the owner of the truck roughly $15,000 with parts, labor and programing. Thankfully, I caught this in time before the engine failed.
Driving a 2017 pro star with a delete. DEF gauge has a light and needle loops all the way around past full. No black smoke or anything. Runs pretty good, but told company I ain’t driving it no more. .55 cents ain’t enough plus theres a situation with AC always fing up.
How do we get in touch with u Ryan, will be purchasing a truck soon and I love the way u help with the info and would like for u to be on my A list of mechanics, u have a pure heart of gold with helping others and there needs to be more guys like u
🙏 for the kind words. Feel free to reach out to our business line. Check out our offering and contact here. www.foxtruckandtractor.com/
@@truckingandfixing 10.4
Good afternoon. First of all “great video”. I have a 2011 International 4300. My mechanic just eliminate the def system. Then he reset everything with his computer. When he finished I try to drive my truck and when I gear to Drive position or Reverse it will shake alot before it starts running. When running it makes a loud noise and doesnt go more than 10 miles per hour. I need help to fix this issue please.
Please contact our business to make an appointment! 330-573-5396
On my F250 I just blocked off the air going in to the EGR even though it’s unplugged sometimes on high boost it will caused the valves to open
Hi Ryan I watched most of your videos very informative and money saving tips. I have a question about a code for the EGR, the code is p1488 (EGR valve out of calibration) which is throwing other codes (p1496, p1515 and p3797) that would not let me do a forced regen to protect the engine. The question is: can the EGR be re-calibrated with software or do I have to replace it with a new one? I took the after-treatment apart and I cleaned it myself, it came out pretty good and I know that because i used J pro diagnostics (borrowed it from a friend ) and the differential pressure shows 0.54 psi on the DEF inlet pressure and 0.07 psi on the DPF outlet pressure at idle.
I will appreciate any advice keep up those good videos thank you. by the way, my truck is a 2019 Kenworth t680 with Paccar mx13
We are seeing more deleted trucks come in with thrown rods, they usually do the most complaining until they are told we know it’s deleted do you want us to fix it?
That sounds extremely funny which means the delete wasn’t worth the effort if you got a buy another engine
@@terrellscaife2411 EPA is cracking down on places that do deletes and companies that sell components for deletes so most of it is done over the internet now, never know what you will get. We got one in the shop now it’s deleted guy bought it at a auction claims he didn’t know he called the auction fuming they are pissed they will go after the person who put it in the auction it really turns into a shitstorm
I would tell you no I won’t give you a penny with that snitch mentality, plenty of shops out there no need to pay a shop with a bunch of girls working on my truck
Brian I just don’t know if it’s worth the trouble you will go through if you get caught
In a 2013 PACCAR ,Is the valve in the EGR supposed to be open or closed?
Perfect explanation, I have a DD15 and it's the exact same process..
Did you delete yours? Im going through a delete on a DD15 also and am a little nervous.
@@RK-yu7mp yes, smooth sailing ever since..no more lights, no more issues. Best $3200.00 you'll spend.
@@squarebiz1973 Thank you for responding man. Ill be getting mine tomorrow so Im excited af. They hit me for 3,500 so looks like I overpaid but not by much. Are you ever worried about DOT or EPA?
@@RK-yu7mp 3500 is right in the ballpark, some are as high as 4k, so no worries there. As far as the DOT and EPA are concerned, not worried at all and I run California. One thing I did do was had the weed burner exhaust pipe converted to the stack style like the older trucks because you'll blow black smoke from time to time and since it's blowing under the truck it's very noticeable. It smokes out 4 wheelers riding next to you. That would be a clear give away to the authorities, so instead with the stack you blow it in the air and it just looks like an old truck and no one knows the difference. That retro fit cost me like 900.00.
@@squarebiz1973 I appreciate that bro. Definitely gonna check that out. Safe travels to you man and thanks for the info 🙏🏼
I did the delete one question the gas exhaust pressure sensor should be left unplugged ?? Isx cummins 2530
I have a series 60 borg warner turbo and the truck is a complete animal now. Mountains becomes flat for me
You know...I changed to a B&W waste gated from a Garrett and I'm not feeling nor seeing a difference. My fuel mpg is the same and hills still are hills. Maybe I'm running at 430hp instead of 470hp. Care to describe you total tunes? I'm in a 2015 Columbia.
@@willmann30 I did a BW K31 and a Full-tilt Manifold on my 99 12.7 Columbia. You don't need to tune but when I went from a 430 tune to a 500 tune the difference was crazy. Went from 6.2mpg to about 7, temps went down and climbs well with a 10 speed. Highly recommend a ceramic coated manifold and a good tune to match your injector size.
What kind of GPM can I expect. I know it will not be much every little bit helps. I also heard you can get a slight bump in HP? Any truth behind that?
What about a Paccar Mx 13 , is the same process as a Cummins , thanks
The funny thing is they could actually design the program to run the DPF/SCR without an EGR/VGT combination. But that money they wanna continue to steal from the hard working American truck driver. The EGR/VGT is the most problematic thing ever in the diesel industry.
Exactly
Hopefully we'll get that archates opposed piston motor that meets emissions regulations with only a catalyst and burns half the fuel of a normal engine
this is why they took away the dislike ratings for youtube videos
@@BuckingHorse-Bull no its not
Wrong.
If you block EGR with plate, will that build soot faster in Dpf system???????
So when they do highway blitz do y’all just not run or how do u dodge the law ?
Deleting my 2013 Cummins ISX was the best money I ever spent
Please tell me about it, already spent a ton of money on my def system... about 8000 on dozer injectors, dlc, dpf filter, sensors and I can’t freaking remember what else. AND I’M SICK AND TIRED OF THIS 💩 always having issues with it
@Rejected-From-Eve .Zero planning an egr tuneup (rawze words) clean up e
See how it goes because maaaaaaaaaan I’m sick and tired of it
I'm running a company truck 2013 volvo deleted Cummins. Runs like a champ. Oil stays pretty clean. If I dont idle alot overnight I don't even need to add between services.
@@mattberg916 i guess I’ll delete the damn thing
@@heronramirez8073 I wish I could give you more information about the delete but I don't know anything about that. But the engine runs great. Best of luck to you
What about moving the EGR intake to AFTER the DPF so you're not collecting all that soot!
So do you recommend? It won’t damage part of the motor?
Let's us know when you open shop I like to take my trucks to you for service.
I’d love that! Keep you posted!
Me too! You're really smart on engines and an up right guy. I'd trust you 💯%
So would you recommend a delete or not? Thanks for the video.
Here is my stand with dpf delete.
Would I Delete My DPF/EGR/Emissions? - Some Facts & My Opinion
ruclips.net/video/U5j5bIH1JcM/видео.html
If your thinking about deleting. It’s easier to buy a used glider kit with a older engine or just put money into a older truck. Saves a lot of headache in the long run.
California banned 2009 and older engines... sooner or later other states might follow. I bet this was california response to your answer.
@@LILRESHWthat’s illegal and won’t happen. That’s a commie law not an American law.
Ryan,
We have an 2008 Ford LCF with a 4.5 Navistar engine....someone stole both DPF and converter....do you know how to bypass these and maintain a good running truck? Any information you can suggest would be appreciated..tyvm
If you have a DEF delete already can you punch the DPF out and it still run right on a MX13 Paccar?
Wish I could delete mine . But its not in the cards. Love your shoulder holster
Nahhh don't delete it just switch the oil every 10 to 12k and crankcase filter twice a year and you'll be gucci
@@StickNclutch
Maintenance free crankcase filter (lifetime), synthetic oil change like that you can run on somewhere 30K-50K miles depending on the type of runs you do.
Theoretical question, as a independent contractor who has to have dpf, how easy is it to toggle it on and off?
You cannot toggle the emission system on and off, it is not designed like that.
hello boss thanks for the good info really helps i have a hino reefer box truck and is delete but its going into regent so how can i fix this i have the flashing regen light any info in from pennsylvania thank you happy holadays
Good video that explains a lot of information on how it's done and some of the actual dangers that come along with it.
I did the delete on my CAT SDP C15 And knocked the filter totaley out , switched to a single turbo and ceramic coated exhaust manifold with wider ports from PDI , installed wide open mufflers, and it started to run as it should. I did it at around 800K miles, now I have 1.2 on it and still runs like a champ, so far all I did is to replace the 6 pack at 1.1 M. I almost got bankrupt, it was me and my family, or the EPA and the tree huggers. LET'S GO BRANDON.🥒🥒
Can you do a def delete on my 2016 Hino 268 truck?
@@Vlad_Kalashnik Sorry, I can't help you with this. I didn't do it myself, I paid to get it done, and it's not the type of service that can be advertised on social media, especially these days. Unfortunately, it's like back in the days of our old countries where walls have ears 😊. I don't know where you're located, but, judging by your name, you shouldn't have a problem finding someone to do it for you; they are pretty much everywhere, and it should cost you about $1500. Good luck.
Hey I know it’s a late question but what kind of truck do you have a have the same engine and had some questions
@@JoseRamirez-wb1vq Pete 389
in the shop rn, mechanic said the code saying engine will derate will stay on but everything will work fine is that normal?
QUICK QUESTION CAN I REGISTER MY TRUCK ANY US STATE WITH DPF AND EGR DELETE ?THE TRUCK PASS EMISIONS INSPECTION WITH DPF AND EGR DELETE ?SOMEONE KNOW ABOUT IT
I cannot speak for other states. As far as Ohio, they do not check emission system when you register for conmercial trucks as long as all the emission components are still here. As far as emission inspection, they have to hook your truck to a computer to check the emission to see if it works.
I think you need a presence in the state you want to register it like office etc. If you notice most big companies will have most their trucks like that like you won't see many big companies have a truck with a california plate on it cause its cheaper to register it in another state.
But is it worth it and who does a good tune
In order to delete def egr has to be deleted too?
Do you offer delete services? 2012 freightliner with isx15?
Sorry, we don’t
Hi Ryan thank you for all the information you give us
Is Fuel pressure going to change if I delete the system
Good video! God bless you and your family!
Hey guys,
I brought a dd15 not long ago and have found that the dpf has been deleted, my question is does that delete the egr as well because only the (hot) side has been blocked off not the other side do I need to double check with a computer that will be safe to do or just block it off?
Thanks in advance
Very well explained. Keep it up brother 👍
Thank you!
Def delete truck tang ta ni karde bai
@@MANYJHAJJ je Sahi Kita hove tan Nai otherwise tan bahut karde a
@@MANYJHAJJ Just buy an old truck instead that doesn’t come with a def system.
so does deleting the egr also delete the swirls?
I have volvo D13 and I have a lot of problems with DPF,can you please suggest me someone who can delete it right for me, I am tired spending money and time for nothing in dealerships
Did the EPA get you yet?
Why do mechanics not recommend to delete? Is it because they’ll lose good money on potential customers or because it really messes up truck?
Deleting a truck properly is not an easy endeavor, there are roughly 100,000 parameters in the programing, including tables that need to be looked at and adjusted accordingly. Simply uploading a file, like 99% of these tuners do, is a recipe for disaster.
@@michaelwright1602Doing it right means doing up to five revisions of the trucks software to make sure everything that needs to be off is off and that the rest of the engine is working properly. As in you read the trucks own software and then you modify it, you don't just upload some premade software. Some people don't have the patience for it.
I'm going to run for senate one day. Getting rid of this def nonsense will be top 5 things to get done day 1.
Or they will have to make it affordable. $4000 for filters 899 for a little def temp sensor wiring harness days would end quick fast and in a hurry 😅 vote for me 2028.
Good luck!👍
Chupacabra for Senate
@@thisismagacountry1318 got-dam-right. But not very original though. Avocado is another classic
There's way bigger fish to fry than that
Defund EPA
Where are you located and how much would you charge to work on my truck I’m all about saving fuel
Ravenna Ohio. Please visit www.foxtruckandtractor.com to find out our rate and offering.
So by canceling the egr...you pretty much stop the hot exhaust from circulating back into your engine and now the exhaust gasses go straight to the exhaust manifold ?
You cook the motor, there is much more to a delete than simply closing or removing parts. It is all in the programing.
I don't care for trouble codes but can I just simply remove dpf filter & drive like that?
No your ecm will detect an engine faults from the egr dpf/scr system and derate your power to basically limp mode or severely reduced power . Everything must be turned off with the tune so the engine control module and aftertreatment control module will no longer be looking for those inputs from the emissions system ... in essence what your doing when you tune your engine and delete the emissions on it your taking the engine back to pre emissions operation just with all the emissions stuff appearing to be intact .
Benefit is engine will run great and work like it should with better fuel economy , more power less heat in the engine and actually breath the way it should ..
Cons of doing it is the possibility of huge fines and they start at like 25k and up from there if your caught and you will need to restore it back to factory setup and it's not cheap to do..
Because even though it appears to be intact like factory at appearance. All they need to do is look at your exhuast stack and see the black soot coming out of the pipe that didn't exist before the delete and or do an opacity test on your engine at an inspection and when the Rev it up for the snap test they will see big puffs of smoke coming out and it will fail the opacity test and then your done .. so does it work ? 100% but is it worth it if you get caught? 100% NO ... so it's a catch 22 ...
And when mechanics have to hook up to check it for engine e.c.m issues cuz you will still have sensors and stuff go bad on the motor , if the mechanic don't know it's deleted and trys to do any kind of regen or calibration update with that deleted file in the e.c.m it's gonna screw everything all up and I'f your e.c.m fails for whatever reason and you require a new one you have to have the same person that did your delete tune to redo it just so you can run your truck and most dealers and shops won't even work on your truck if they know it's been deleted .....
Hello, just got this 2004 MBE4000 it’s a Cali truck and has retrofitted DPF system . My question is can I just unplug everything and get rid of the DPF since it’s not required in Arizona ?.
Thx
Yes, purchase a factory exhaust system with out a DPF and reflash the trucks computer to stock. Plus remove module that controls it all. It’s completely legal since it’s a non factory aftermarket part.
Good job, keep me posted with your updates. Cool stuffs here !!!
Thanks 🙏
I don't understand why people drill holes in the Dpf/SCR filters. Just remove it and install a standard muffler. Or am I missing something?
You cant replace or remove the outer housing, it has to appear to be unaltered if you were to be inspected.
Just take the filter out and drill holes in the Catalyst putting a detroit turbo is a red flag that its deleted. My 2010 ISX was deleted 300,000 miles ago and I've never had a problem since and I'm almost 1.3 million miles
I have a 2011 international 4300 box truck. Brand new motor and turbo. It will dump a crazy huge amount of blue smoke every hour or so on the highway. Does not use DEF fluid it uses the trucks diesel. Can it be deleted?
Sorry, I don’t know the answer for your truck. You can contact the company who perform the delete to get you the exact answer! Good luck
Fix the emissions, you will destroy that new motor and turbo in short order.
what do you think of the x15 engine? is it better with the new dpf system or same?
It’s still new we will know over time 😎
Is trash
I have 1 with 300k miles n broke down a month after I bought it
@@Hacunamattata what broke?
@@Token650 def system...
So I deleted it
Haven't got any more issues so far
@@Hacunamattata damn with mileage like thats pretty crazy. Bought new?
There's a mechanic on our job almost every day.. Def Engines Fucking Up Again.. Only equipment and trucks that don't have any problems are the ones without DEF. That shits putting people out of business quicker than the fuel prices.
Seriously paid $2600 truck ran for about 15 days broke down again … force regan $400 road side …… truck ran another 10 days take it back shop mechanic tells me best just deleted it cause the amount $$ cost pay repost no guarantee it will give me
Longer then 30 days when from def to dpf issue 😫😫😫
When you do this . They stick a rod down your pipe . Or have the overhead. Then they pull you around back, and have a Real close look. Save your engine but get a fine.
I did a delete on my 2017 Peterbilt 579 with a Cummins ISX and when I idle the truck for more than 1 hour every time I give it throttle white smoke comes out of the exhaust but the smoke goes away after driving on the highway but when I come to a stop and let the truck idle again it repeats the same time.. any suggestions???
Sounds like a typical bad delete, who did it? Did they remove anything from your motor, EGR Cooler, EGR Valve, VG Turbo? Did they cut any wires? Were the cans totally gutted, all of them? Not holes drilled, but gutted right to the metal? Also your fuel pump, that needs to be rebuilt at roughly 400,000 miles, as they are still failing. The white smoke could also be a leaky injector. Do you have pyrometer and turbo boost gauge in the cab? How much boost are you producing? Engine oil temps too, where are they?
How can they put exhaust gas back into your engine? It's not air or oxygen anymore so it won't burn right?
it reburns the bad gases and makes engines run hotter also….
@@Trevor7727 negative. The exhaust is to reduce combustion temps and reduce nox production. It's counterproductive bs. A high flow catalytic converter pumped with atmospheric air to keep it super hot and burn off any waste petroleum/fuel would be more productive, and is how the dpf works anyway.
@@Trevor7727 nope runs cooler if you delete it engine will run hotter n boom
I have a question for you
thank you very informative
Yeah I have a 2018 cascadia. 400k
I don't idle
I don't leave it running
I have an apu.
Started getting codes now.. with only 400k. .thinking about doing a delete.
don't want to change sensors and shit
Do an EGR Tuneup, and it may be time to either replace the DPF/DOC filters or have them baked and de-ashed. You will also need to remove and clean the EGR Valve and it would be a good idea to remove and clean the EGR Cooler too. Also the emission sensors on the intake and exhaust side should be replaces with new OEM sensors. All parts should be OEM that you put on your motor.
So who is a reliable tuner? I have an isx15 and I read an article where supposedly blocking off the egr cooler a because that coolant feeds cyl #6 or something. Also that the turbo builds enough boost to crack the head. Can anyone here with an isx15 and a delete share your experience
I have a Cummins that been deleted for about 6 months, now I have been exhaust fumes in cab and where the dpf under my passenger step , can smell exhaust...any suggestions?
Follow your exhaust pipes all the way to your engine change all the washers, rings, and clamps
Make sure you put NEW everything on
Literally just went through the same thing had to delete the EGR after deleting the def
Hope this helps you man
They did a crap delete, more than likely your DPF/DOC/SCR cans are all intact, or they simply drilled a couple of holes in them. They all need to be gutted. Is your truck still running?
What happens is all the headaches go away and you get more power, mileage, and longevity.
Agreed, if you can fix your own truck, delete is a good idea.
Not always, very few ever have these deleted properly.
@@michaelwright1602 what is a proper delete?
Can you delete the DPF & the DEF system without touching the EGR system? I can deal with the EGR, I just can't stand the DEF system.
No
Awesome, all that nonsense in the name of carbon. Unbelievable, plant more trees would be much ideal and cost effective than bankrupting owner operators
Don't plant more trees; it's a waste of land. Abolish the EPA.
Well def just concentrates the soot. What the California snowflakes were crying about was "oh deisels killing the planet look at all that black smoke" so they created a system that does nothing more than concentrate the soot and dump it on the ground instead of spitting it in the air. Trucks now burn more feul, emit the same, and waste more material costing more. They have made what thwy claim to be helping worse
@@kenworthkid998 dpf and def are two different things and you don’t know the difference. You really should research what these machines do because it is both interesting and effective at eliminating carcinogens and greenhouse gases that affect climate change. The problems it solves are very real.
@@rudeliorodriqueziii1090 no shit Sherlock but you cant have one without the other. Go find a truck with a dpf system that doesnt have def. My point was its all part of a bullshit system that does fuck all. And you should do some research i drive and repair these things for a living
Actually there are several trucks with DPF and no DEF. DPF was mandated in 2007 and DEF in 2011. DEF doesn't do anything for soot, it reduces NOX. DPF burns soot. That having been said DEF releases ammonia, which it turns out kills trees, which is worse than what NOX does. You don't know much for someone who supposedly "drives and repairs these things for a living".
I just blocket the coolant pipe on my egr and unplugged the harness and blocked the gas tube. And no software
That coolant pipe on a Cummins cools the #5 and #6 cylinders, other makes may differ. And you are harming your motor.
On my first truck i run with EGR delete 5 years and nothing happened. Maybe on D13 it is important, on cummins everyone is doing
Great Content.
Thankyou
Egr and DEF delete on commercial?
If you are asking if we offer delete, we don’t.
I’m still confused. How do you delete EPA ?
Democracy, preferably non violent.😅
Delete is the answer. Saves you lots of money
Do you have to block off cooler with the delete
Typically, yes!!
On a Cummins, the exhaust is plugged, the coolant line is left intact, as that cools the #5 and #6 cylinders in the
CM-871 and newer motors.
What’s your difference in mpg before and after
It is about 20%
That did not answer the question 20%what?
@@adamtheede2575 probably 1-1.5 mpg better, might not sound like much but when you drive over 100k miles a year makes a difference
@@thomasvittetoe1930 Ha If you only spent 1500 a week on fuel it'd be 300 a week. Most spend more
@@adamtheede2575 get an overhead from someone who really actually knows what they're doing.
Looking at getting an 08 f350. It needs a new dpf sensor, can I run without it? I'm not a diesel guy, so yes guys I'm ignorant to this😂😂
Can you do just a egr delete and keep def system?
Typically you delete the EGR and DEF but leave the DPF to limit the black soot which is a easy give away of a deleted truck
@@xMods-ld8nx You need to gut the DPF/DOC and SCR filters. If you leave any of them intact, or drill holes in them, you will simply destroy the turbo over time, and eventually the motor. In frames start at $28,000
Thanks Bro! Awesome info 🏁
Who can do on my cm2350 ?
Can the deletes damage motor?
No
Yes, see my post above, I am repairing a bad delete on a Cummins CM-871 right now. The cost to the owner will be roughly $15,000 with parts, labor and programming.
I am fixing one of these delete abortions right now, Cummins CM-871. What a F'ing mess, Big Tuner Shop, PDI style, stripped the motor of everything except the VG Turbo. When I removed the turbo, chunks of soot and carbon came pouring out, I have no idea how it held together, it is being replaced, along with a new actuator.
The DPF/DOC cans only had a few holes drilled in them, instead of being hollowed out, that is what destroyed the turbo, high heat from a face plugged filter.
They removed the EGR Cooler and did not install a coolant bypass kit to cool the #5 and #6 cylinders. So, need a bypass kit...
I believe I caught this in time before any more serious engine damage occured.
Then they replaced the factory water pump with a unit off of a CM-570, so I need a new water pump and housing too. Then all of the RTV (Mr Gasket) that they used on that pump. Now I have to strip down the cooling system in search of RTV boogers.
Then the high heat issues, going to have to change out the oil cooler, oil and coolant thermostats, and God knows what else. Right now I am $8000 deep into this mess, when all said and done, I think with parts, and my labor, $15,000 easily.
If only the previous owner would have simply completed an EGR Tuneup and replaced the DOC and DPF filters, none of this would have happened. There was no need to strip this motor of thousands of dollars in parts, destroy the turbo, and all of the other issues it is now facing. And I have not even gotten into the programming yet.
a delete is what it is
techs are the so called abortions
Will that make the engine louder by nocking the canister out
You don’t hollow the whole thing out.
If u do it will be loud. Just hollow about a 5 inch through the middle.
EGR deleted/off and dpf on, is it possible?
I am not 100% sure, you should probably get a good answer from company who offers the service.
Nope
Do you do the delete?
Sorry, I don’t do delete.
Thank God my truck is old enough and doesn't have any of that junk
There are a lot of Diesel Shops that are no more due to DELETES. The fines have bankrupted them.
Is it legal to delete your truck in Ohio?
Ninety nine percent of the deletes going around out there are butchered and hacked programs going all the way back to 2008 - 2010. They are files that have been floating around on the internet for years. Sadly, these are the same files many of these so called big name tuners use. I have seen a few of their files, not to mention that each motor is designated for the specific model truck it is in. It is the norm to see one of these engine killing files meant for say a KW, in a Volvo, pick your flavor. Sadly, these are tunes many folks pay thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars for. Normally, within a year, the motor has cooked or ate itself, in frame time. It would have been a heck of a lot cheaper to learn and maintain that emission system... Keep reading...
Then the cans, they have to be completely hollowed out. Every bit needs to be removed in the DPF/DOC and SCR. you don't, you are cooking the motor as the cans will now become face plugged and the destruction will comense. they have to be gutted, you cannot get away with drilling a few holes or making one 4 inch hole in the can. And that is a common problem with the big name and parking lot tuners, they instal a garbage program that has been recycled a hundred times over into your ECM and then tell you they hollowed out the cans, and they did not, or they tell you there is no need to do that, as it was taken care of with the programming. Don't be stupid folks...
If you have a newer truck, and you are getting fault codes and all of that nonsense associtated with these EPA trucks, why don't you figure out the systems and use proper maintenance intervals to keep these systems functioning in tip top shape?
Complete regularly scheduled EGR Tuneups, do these annually or bi-annually, depending upon miles driven and conditions. Replace the sensors, the dosers, maintain the SCR filter with regular filter changes, bake the cans and or replace when needed, etc... Install a bypass oil filtration system, Amsoil makes a universal kit you can mount on your truck. This will help keep the soot load out of the motor oil, which in time eats away at your bearings, cam(s) and lobes. And this is not an Amsoil commercial, they make the filter kit, I know many guys that do use them with great success, and you can use any oil filter that fits. Just change it out say every four months or quarterly.
And oil, use regular oil, stay away from the synthetics... And those extended oil changes? They are killing your motor! Change the oil every 8,000 to 18,000 miles, depending on how your operation is run. Always hauling mid to light weight loads, running the midwest and south, 15,000 - 18,000 miles is fine. Running the oil fields, alway at gross or in that 100,000 lb range, maybe every 8,000 miles would be a proper interval. Extended drains will kill these EPA motors, all of that soot is still there, it collects in the oil, call it liquid sandpaper. Than the additive package in the oil, in time it stops working, then you may as well be running baby oil in the motor. Change the oil on a regular and scheduled time frame. Don't buy this extended oil change BS the dealers and the engine manufacturers tell you, they love to see you in the shop, especially for things like camshafts and rollers... Easy money, and very predictable if you operate under an extended oil change interval. They know the game, as they wrote the book.
Bottom line, learn the mechanics of your truck, and quit relying on these shops and dealers who know less about your truck than you do. You run a business, start acting like an owner and take charge of the most important part of truck ownership. I have lost count of all of the guys I know that were put out of business due to their laziness and relying upon warranties and the thieves at the local dealership to properly fix their truck. Don't be that guy. Learn your equipment and how to maintain it!
Very good advice
Good advice, I'll take it 👍🏾
I like all of that. My only problem is that these lobbyists (def people sent them to pass regulations), are greedy af. Make these parts affordable. The price of the filters is almost an inframe. Get real. I deleted my kw. No issues since.
@@travieso1ruvalcaba672 Totally agree, the prices for these emission parts is OUTRAGEOUS!
CARB, back in the mid 2000's, tasked a California university with testing the diesel particulates from these new emission systems in regards to health and public safety. They wanted to know exactly what was coming out of these new emission motor's exhaust.
The scientists found the DPF/DOC equipped motors were more harmful to humans, and the environment, than our previous old non-EGR equipped trucks.
They discovered the particulates, the final product of these emission motors, are now so small they go directly through clothing and skin, directly to your bloodstream. The particulates were said to be cancerous. Imagine that?
The folks doing this study recommended doing away with these emission systems for the public's health and safety until a new means to this emission issue could be found. The study was ignored.
Can you imagine how much worse it is now with these DEF/SCR systems? And of course this study was quickly scrubbed from the internet, I had the link at one time, and of course it quit working soon after my discovery.
@@bonanzatransport Thanks, just commonsense... With a bit of critical thinking... If I could only bottle at least one of these, I could retire.
thing is if you break down or need to go to any reputable repair shop soon as they see it's deleted they will not work on your truck ....
That’s a lie
Reputable and dealership are 2 different things, if you want a 19 year old kid with 2 weeks of training working on your truck go to the dealership.
No,, only if the dealership or some professional shop decides to be a asshole they can keep your truck until you fix it,, if they found out you deleted it
yeah I want to gamble on who is a arsehole and who isnt... thanks I'll just stay legal. also your taking a big gamble deleting and then having bigger issues with heads turbos etc. not worth it buy a 2007 if you don't want the emissions nightmares.
@@fxstc111well no its not a gamble i know where not to take it to like MHC and any dealer,, other than that i have no problem i can even go to TA or any regular shop 2nd with my truck has no problem since i delete it and i put almost 300,000 miles on a cummins
Just at a dealer. The sign said if its emission system is compromised work will be stopped and you tow your vehicle away.
I believe dealers are required by law to restore emissions systems without your permission. I'd say that the sign is a pretty generous option.
@@mattberg916 dealers couldnt afford to do that 20k plus repair on their dime.
@@hawkeyetec not on their dime. They bill the owner
@@mattberg916 bullshit,,,,,you guys must live in Jersey or something?
And who pays the fines for that when I get caught, and who pays the fines for the shop that does that?
I didn’t know your suppose to tell them
Most likely anybody involved will get fined.
You keep your mouth shut, pay whatever and DO NOT SNITCH!!!
Please awnser this question how to landstar get paid do they send in invoices whats the process
EPA has entered the chat... 👀
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Dot is watching....
Emissions cartel has always been watching. They want to intimidate every truck driver in the country.
@@iamOAKland white volvo mafia is a comin🤣
Have you ever heard of fumes after a delete on Cummins??
Is it exhaust fumes?
Yep, whoever hacked your truck did not clean out the cans, all of that exhaust is building pressure as the DOC filter face plugs. The hot exhaust has nowhere to escape too, so it starts bleeding through the exhaust and turbo, and eventually destroys the turbo, and normally the CAC along with it.
The worst flywheel blowup I saw was a disgruntled driver who rolled down a hill with his truck in 3rd or 4th gear with the clutch disengaged then popped the pedal at about 50 mph thinking he would blow the engine. Wrong. The flywheel disintegrated sending a pie shaped wedge through the bellhousing and dog house then wedging itself into the bottom of the dash. Mass doesn’t like to overspeed. Guys my age will remember the OVERSPEED light on the dash. DPF delete?? YES. Diesels are engineered to breath.
Just brought a Cascadia dd15 having issues with forced regen. Can you advise me PLEASE? 🙏
Great Video