I hope mayor Bibb puts that 461 million toward the roads so when i drive through Cleveland on my way to brookparkansas i dont have to dodge those big ass potholes 😂
What events are we going to get in the winter? Really no artist outside of Swift and Drake would make a stadium show worth the cash. Shania Twain and Tool went over a decade without touring, but they were still in Rocket Mortgage. We would only host a Superbowl like once every 10-15 years. They say Wrestlemania, but it's in April where the weather is nice, and we literally just did Summerslam. Didn't we do: NBA/MLB all star games, Summerslam, presidential debates, a 2+ million championship parade. Gotta remember as well.....people don't like driving in the winter. Our winters haven't been bad since 2010 (average temp last December in Cleveland was 47 degrees), but people outside Ohio thinks it's Alaska and would be scared of the roads
@@Neglected-NostalgiaIndianapolis signed a package deal with WWE including Royal Rumble, so that’s one winter event. This would be a good contender to host the Big Ten Title game that Indy currently hosts. Cleveland is also centrally located between Detroit, Toledo, Pittsburgh, and Columbus to pull tourism from for big events.
The only reason I’m against it isn’t because of the dome. It’s because I feel downtown Cleveland is gonna lose money. Also, so is the muni lot and everywhere downtown we use to tailgate at just not gonna be a thing anymore? I’m not about it for a few certain reasons, it’s not so much the dome part. It should be a retractable dome at least though.
I don't like the dome idea either! I love going to games in all weather snow wind cold rain! Also all the tailgating downtown and going to bars! Every business downtown will definitely be impacted by this! Also Everyone talking about superbowl in Cleveland! They will never have a superbowl in Cleveland! Game is in February where we get snowstorms dome or not snow will definitely be a impact and for that reason I don't see a superbowl ever coming to Cleveland. I don't agree with this idea at all! Browns should stay in downtown Cleveland period!!
@@jeffreyjenkins8158Cleveland should have worked harder to maintain the stadium the streets and etc. the Cavs play 41 home games and the guards play what 60 or more home games I think your just holding on to old traditions every domed stadium I’ve been to have nice huge lots for tailgating so you won’t be crammed in the mini lot anymore out with the old in with something fresh finally most people will tell you those cold games on the lake suck
@@BuckyBarnesNC Downtown Cleveland will most certainly lose out on game weekends. But, this is who the people voted for to represent them. Stupid people in power do stupid things. The dome is a must to get a Super Bowl! Also, you need the facility upgrade as a revenue stream to pay the players. Does Northeast Ohio want to lose the Browns, AGAIN?
It's going to screw all the bars downtown that rely on it. In my opinion the Browns belong downtown. Also bringing unnecessary traffic to that area. The roof needs to be retractable if they do it
The bars will be fine we play at home 8 times a year they still have the casino, guards, and Cavs reimagine that lake front and figure out how to fix the dang on potholes been waiting since the 90s
A dome stadium in Cleveland put them on the list for a super bowl. It doesn't get any better than that unless the Browns are in it.. I look forward to seeing the new stadium
@@drewferd2720Dude, Cleveland would have a chance to host a Super Bowl with a dome. If Minnesota, Detroit and Indy can host one with same or similar weather so can Cleveland.
@@drewferd2720-10 degrees? The average monthly temperature in Cleveland last November was 44, and 47 in December. I went to the Browns and Jaguars game in December, and it was like 55. If your brittle bones can't handle wearing thermals under your hoodies & coats (which you don't need in 50 degrees), amd putting on gloves and a hat, then you shouldn't be watching football in the first place.
I definitely would plan to attend WrestleMania there; won’t be quite as beautiful as autumn, but avoid the extreme cold or any heat waves. Such a scenic area that’s always a pleasure to visit, and I see the suburb isn’t too far away from the breathtaking stretch known as Valley Pkwy.
This will be an amazing thing if it happens! Theres no law that says we have to play in that same lakefront location eternally. This is the 21st century and its time for this area to move into it. Its a once-in-a-generation build and im glad the Haslems are commited to our metro like this
Question for ALL THOSE that are complaining about the browns playing in Brookpark? Especially people living in Cleveland are you willing to help pay for it?? Mayor Bibb through a nugget out there to the Haslem's but not nearly enough. People in Cleveland need to stop crying! It's not like they are moving out to Richfield like the Cavs did back in the day.
Let the slimeball billionaire pay for it. He’s been a professional scam artist his entire career. Ever been to Brookpark? It’s already impossible to get around there already. Bring in 70,000 more people hahaha have fun with that!
@@bobcarr5497 hell no they ain't and this is what pisses me off about Cleveland residents they'll go to other US cities and rave about what those cities have and bang on Cleveland for not having it then when we have a chance to get something as world-class of stature as this they cry and complain against it
I'd say the idiotic part would be taxpayers getting screwed so a billionaire can get richer, but there will always be people lining up to lick the boot of the rich and powerful, I suppose.
Im against it. This is bad for browns fans. Like they said, tickets, everything will go up. The browns will contiue to loose for the next 20 years, and the dome of the Cleveland feel during the winter. In 2009 i was at the Browns, and steelers game under Eric Mangni, in Cleveland Its was cold, freezing, but the nostalgia of cold night in cleveland will be missed
@@ctownaqib Would have had it in that 2020-2021 season if all our receivers weren't held out because of Covid during the Jets game, or if our banged up piss poor Joe Woods defense could have stopped Lamar from driving down and having Tucker kick a 60+ yarder for the W even after Mayfield matched both their TDs in the 4th quarter.
@@Neglected-Nostalgia yeah and idiot fans blamed Mayfield for both those losses. Watson doesn't have Mayfield's heart. They won't get a home playoff game with him as QB.
@@ctownaqib They'd blame Mayfield for every loss, but not Chubb when he dropped those 3rd down passes in Chiefs playoff game, and Chubbs fumble in Chiefs 2021 opener, Landry dropping 2 TDs in 2020 Raiders game, Landry fumbling away a Pittsburgh game, etc.
Haslam should try a new route : Bribe County Officials . Go Fund Me account . Large Pity Party . Sad violin music . Beg on the streets . Promise Free College Education . Free parking at the stadium . Threaten to move the Browns .
This is great for the Browns and Northeast Ohio. It’s gonna bring a lot of jobs and opportunities that don’t currently exist. Also puts the Browns far away from that frozen lake.
@@stevenadkins9655 I am not a Browns fan but I live in Northeast Ohio so I know that this area needs alot of development. BrookPark is the first thing most non-CLEVELANDERS see when hope off a plane. If that area got a facelift with a Browns stadium and everything else it will bring a ton of opportunities to Northeast Ohio. The current Browns stadium is located in the worst spot. The Cavs and Guards stadium are located in the heart of downtown then you have the Browns stadium way out the way.
How long will it take to build this thing? If the Browns are a winning team during the interim the Cleveland fans won’t be sour about the new stadium; however, if they are losing this will result in a lot of belly aching. If the Browns are a winner will the team (Browns) be shown on television locally and statewide or will the local fans be subjected to blackout for home games to insure attendance?
By the time it's finished, it'll be north of 4 billion. 4 billion for what? Those who complain about the weather for 4 games should just stay home. We're not going to get all these winter events to make the cost worth it.....oh wow! we're probably going to get 1 Superbowl in 20 years. They say Wrestlemania, but that's in April and we just did Summerslam in our stadium. If only Taylor Swift stopped touring everywhere outside of Cleveland, then it would be worth it. All those classic rock bands who can still sell out a stadium will probably hang up their jersey by the time the new stadium is done. What's the average Browns attendance....65k? I'm sure that'll jump to 75k with a new stadium (sarcasm). Since I haven't been to a Cavs game since 2016 and baseball bores me, there's no reason to go downtown anymore unless RAW/Smackdown comes
If giving a billion tax dollars to a billionaire lets me feel like I'm a winner on Sunday while drinking beer and munching pork rinds on my couch, I'm all in.
@@Slowmotion21613 I'm not. I know a socialist when I see one. This has nothing to do with haslem paying for his own stadium which I also think he should do. No it's fat, yankee carpetbagging, POS Bull's stance on the supreme Court which is finally conservative after 100 years of socialist activism. This fat POS couldn't explain one issue to you but because CNN says they're bad, old captain cholesterol has to bitch and moan about them. I think you're confused, if you think my comment was about haslem. You gonna defend socialism now? Come at me.
People Cleveland browns stadium was rush now they can take there time in buildings the dome I wish we could vote on it I think it would pass Kansas city Was Threaten To move If they didn't get a new stadium that way it didn't pass people was not Buying it the browns ant leaving Cleveland
100% Absolutely disgraceful that money that could be used for education and improving quality of life is instead given to billionaires for their personal toys and a damn game. You have to be incredibly naive to think that money will trickle down into the local economy instead of ending up in an uber wealthy sociopath's pocket.
Haslam is officially the worst owner of the Cleveland Browns have had. I don't want to be The Brookpark Browns. I want to keep The Browns in Cleveland. "The Cleveland Browns."
@@trishalogan4643 you have to be kidding me! The Deshaun Watson deal he made is a joke. And now he is moving the team out of downtown Cleveland just because he wants a dome. This is going to have long term negative effects on the city of Cleveland and make the cost of Browns tickets and our taxes go up. Sounds like he really cares about the team and the city 😒
Alot of teams play in locations that technically aren't there corresponding city. Also worst owner? Randy Lerner was awful. The browns are finally not a laughing stock and some browns fans still bitch and moan like we 0 and 16 we made the playoffs twice in the past 4 years bro chill
@@melvinsmith8444 maybe worst owner is a bit of an exaggeration from what I said. But I do feel this is a bad move for the city of Cleveland and the fans. Taxes will go up to pay for it and the cost of season tickets will go up. Not to mention if they let ppl tailgate in the new Brookpark area-it will get trashed. I think Haslam is in a bit of a tough place though with the Dome similar to Art Modell when he wanted to get more money for a stadium. The City doesn't seem to want to help Haslam build it and the city really hasn't done anything with the current stadium area on the waterfront to develop it any further. So what option does that leave him. No support from the city. I do appreciate him trying to go after bigger players and try to be more aggressive with the business. Is he a better owner than Lerner? Absolutely. But I wish he had some foresight to see the bigger picture of how this new Dome will affect the fans and the city of Cleveland. The Deshaun Watson deal was a mistake. The Johnny Manziel deal was a mistake. Hue Jackson was a mistake. I think this Dome is going to be a mistake as well. It's not even going to be a retractable Dome.
Building a Dome in Cleveland is the dumbest idea ever 🤦🏾♂️ Football is meant to played outdoors. It doesn’t get cold enough for a Dome . Playing on carpet is wack. If they move to a Dome I will no longer support this franchise.
I hope mayor Bibb puts that 461 million toward the roads so when i drive through Cleveland on my way to brookparkansas i dont have to dodge those big ass potholes 😂
I want a giga roller coaster downtown
YES, LETS GOOO!!!!
Build a Dome, a year-round stadium. We need more events in this region. Build it... they will come.
What events are we going to get in the winter? Really no artist outside of Swift and Drake would make a stadium show worth the cash. Shania Twain and Tool went over a decade without touring, but they were still in Rocket Mortgage. We would only host a Superbowl like once every 10-15 years. They say Wrestlemania, but it's in April where the weather is nice, and we literally just did Summerslam. Didn't we do: NBA/MLB all star games, Summerslam, presidential debates, a 2+ million championship parade. Gotta remember as well.....people don't like driving in the winter. Our winters haven't been bad since 2010 (average temp last December in Cleveland was 47 degrees), but people outside Ohio thinks it's Alaska and would be scared of the roads
@@Neglected-NostalgiaIndianapolis signed a package deal with WWE including Royal Rumble, so that’s one winter event. This would be a good contender to host the Big Ten Title game that Indy currently hosts. Cleveland is also centrally located between Detroit, Toledo, Pittsburgh, and Columbus to pull tourism from for big events.
The only reason I’m against it isn’t because of the dome. It’s because I feel downtown Cleveland is gonna lose money. Also, so is the muni lot and everywhere downtown we use to tailgate at just not gonna be a thing anymore? I’m not about it for a few certain reasons, it’s not so much the dome part.
It should be a retractable dome at least though.
Downtown Cleveland Will be fine
@@BIFC216 no it won’t do some research
I don't like the dome idea either! I love going to games in all weather snow wind cold rain! Also all the tailgating downtown and going to bars! Every business downtown will definitely be impacted by this! Also Everyone talking about superbowl in Cleveland! They will never have a superbowl in Cleveland! Game is in February where we get snowstorms dome or not snow will definitely be a impact and for that reason I don't see a superbowl ever coming to Cleveland. I don't agree with this idea at all! Browns should stay in downtown Cleveland period!!
@@jeffreyjenkins8158Cleveland should have worked harder to maintain the stadium the streets and etc. the Cavs play 41 home games and the guards play what 60 or more home games I think your just holding on to old traditions every domed stadium I’ve been to have nice huge lots for tailgating so you won’t be crammed in the mini lot anymore out with the old in with something fresh finally most people will tell you those cold games on the lake suck
@@BuckyBarnesNC Downtown Cleveland will most certainly lose out on game weekends. But, this is who the people voted for to represent them. Stupid people in power do stupid things. The dome is a must to get a Super Bowl! Also, you need the facility upgrade as a revenue stream to pay the players. Does Northeast Ohio want to lose the Browns, AGAIN?
Finally we get a dome! Year round events. That is forwarding thinking.
It's going to screw all the bars downtown that rely on it. In my opinion the Browns belong downtown. Also bringing unnecessary traffic to that area. The roof needs to be retractable if they do it
The bars will be fine we play at home 8 times a year they still have the casino, guards, and Cavs reimagine that lake front and figure out how to fix the dang on potholes been waiting since the 90s
Way to go Jimmy!
New stadium = Superbowl victory.
A dome stadium in Cleveland put them on the list for a super bowl. It doesn't get any better than that unless the Browns are in it.. I look forward to seeing the new stadium
Hahaha no it didn’t! They won’t ever have it in Cleveland dome or not. -10 outside the stadium leaves you with zero to do hahaha
@@drewferd2720Dude, Cleveland would have a chance to host a Super Bowl with a dome. If Minnesota, Detroit and Indy can host one with same or similar weather so can Cleveland.
Ok? Cleveland would get to host once every 20 years and you wouldn't be able to afford tickets anyway.
@@drewferd2720-10 degrees? The average monthly temperature in Cleveland last November was 44, and 47 in December. I went to the Browns and Jaguars game in December, and it was like 55. If your brittle bones can't handle wearing thermals under your hoodies & coats (which you don't need in 50 degrees), amd putting on gloves and a hat, then you shouldn't be watching football in the first place.
Cant wait!
At least they won't be the mistake on the lake anymore GO BROOK PARK BROWNS 🏈🏈
I definitely would plan to attend WrestleMania there; won’t be quite as beautiful as autumn, but avoid the extreme cold or any heat waves. Such a scenic area that’s always a pleasure to visit, and I see the suburb isn’t too far away from the breathtaking stretch known as Valley Pkwy.
This will be an amazing thing if it happens! Theres no law that says we have to play in that same lakefront location eternally. This is the 21st century and its time for this area to move into it. Its a once-in-a-generation build and im glad the Haslems are commited to our metro like this
Question for ALL THOSE that are complaining about the browns playing in Brookpark? Especially people living in Cleveland are you willing to help pay for it??
Mayor Bibb through a nugget out there to the Haslem's but not nearly enough.
People in Cleveland need to stop crying! It's not like they are moving out to Richfield like the Cavs did back in the day.
Let the slimeball billionaire pay for it. He’s been a professional scam artist his entire career. Ever been to Brookpark? It’s already impossible to get around there already. Bring in 70,000 more people hahaha have fun with that!
@@bobcarr5497 hell no they ain't and this is what pisses me off about Cleveland residents they'll go to other US cities and rave about what those cities have and bang on Cleveland for not having it then when we have a chance to get something as world-class of stature as this they cry and complain against it
Adam can't control himself. Wants to tie everything to his idiotic politics.
I'd say the idiotic part would be taxpayers getting screwed so a billionaire can get richer, but there will always be people lining up to lick the boot of the rich and powerful, I suppose.
Im against it. This is bad for browns fans. Like they said, tickets, everything will go up. The browns will contiue to loose for the next 20 years, and the dome of the Cleveland feel during the winter. In 2009 i was at the Browns, and steelers game under Eric Mangni, in Cleveland Its was cold, freezing, but the nostalgia of cold night in cleveland will be missed
Naaaa it won’t 😂
Most people don't want to sit for hours in miserable weather. You're in a tiny minority of people who somehow enjoy it.
Throw in a playoff game? The stadium literally has never hosted one.
.......team has to make it
@@Neglected-Nostalgiaoh I know. I wouldn't be surprised if it winds up going through its entire life span and never hosts a playoff game.
@@ctownaqib Would have had it in that 2020-2021 season if all our receivers weren't held out because of Covid during the Jets game, or if our banged up piss poor Joe Woods defense could have stopped Lamar from driving down and having Tucker kick a 60+ yarder for the W even after Mayfield matched both their TDs in the 4th quarter.
@@Neglected-Nostalgia yeah and idiot fans blamed Mayfield for both those losses. Watson doesn't have Mayfield's heart. They won't get a home playoff game with him as QB.
@@ctownaqib They'd blame Mayfield for every loss, but not Chubb when he dropped those 3rd down passes in Chiefs playoff game, and Chubbs fumble in Chiefs 2021 opener, Landry dropping 2 TDs in 2020 Raiders game, Landry fumbling away a Pittsburgh game, etc.
Bout time
Yeah, Cool!
Haslam should try a new route :
Bribe County Officials .
Go Fund Me account .
Large Pity Party .
Sad violin music .
Beg on the streets .
Promise Free College Education .
Free parking at the stadium .
Threaten to move the Browns .
Why is Bull even on the show? He's a flaming liberal that isn't even a Cleveland sports fan.
I don’t like any of these guys on the show
He's a well fed flaming lib my friend.
Minnesota, Las Vegas, and Sofi aren't retractable.
Sofi is retractable. They only close it when it rains.
@@Epvil the roof is fixed but open on the sides that lets airflow through
Gotta love hearing Bull sticking up for the middle class since he was on The Fan.
More of a roof than a dome 😂 love the renderings and they sorta swayed me towards the brookpark stadium
This is great for the Browns and Northeast Ohio. It’s gonna bring a lot of jobs and opportunities that don’t currently exist. Also puts the Browns far away from that frozen lake.
Everyone makes money we get stuck with a thief for a owner GO BROOK PARK BROWNS 🏈🏈
@@stevenadkins9655 I am not a Browns fan but I live in Northeast Ohio so I know that this area needs alot of development. BrookPark is the first thing most non-CLEVELANDERS see when hope off a plane. If that area got a facelift with a Browns stadium and everything else it will bring a ton of opportunities to Northeast Ohio. The current Browns stadium is located in the worst spot. The Cavs and Guards stadium are located in the heart of downtown then you have the Browns stadium way out the way.
I love how Bull hates conservatives but lives in Rocky River. Maybe you would be happier in Cleveland Heights . Bull
Of course someone that can't climb one flight of stairs wants a dome
How long will it take to build this thing? If the Browns are a winning team during the interim the Cleveland fans won’t be sour about the new stadium; however, if they are losing this will result in a lot of belly aching. If the Browns are a winner will the team (Browns) be shown on television locally and statewide or will the local fans be subjected to blackout for home games to insure attendance?
What are you talking about?
Tyvis sounds like Beaker from the Muppets with his high-pitched talking and laughing.
First event at Flying J Stadium.....
Taylor Swift or the Cleveland Browns????????
By the time it's finished, it'll be north of 4 billion. 4 billion for what? Those who complain about the weather for 4 games should just stay home. We're not going to get all these winter events to make the cost worth it.....oh wow! we're probably going to get 1 Superbowl in 20 years. They say Wrestlemania, but that's in April and we just did Summerslam in our stadium. If only Taylor Swift stopped touring everywhere outside of Cleveland, then it would be worth it. All those classic rock bands who can still sell out a stadium will probably hang up their jersey by the time the new stadium is done. What's the average Browns attendance....65k? I'm sure that'll jump to 75k with a new stadium (sarcasm).
Since I haven't been to a Cavs game since 2016 and baseball bores me, there's no reason to go downtown anymore unless RAW/Smackdown comes
If giving a billion tax dollars to a billionaire lets me feel like I'm a winner on Sunday while drinking beer and munching pork rinds on my couch, I'm all in.
Extorting you haha dude just suckered Cleveland.
You all voted for this crap-show mayor. You get what you vote for.
Cry more Trumptard.
Adam The Socialist Bull. Go cheer for the Cubs.
Because he wants a billionaire to pay for his stadium? I think you are confused
@@Slowmotion21613 I'm not. I know a socialist when I see one. This has nothing to do with haslem paying for his own stadium which I also think he should do. No it's fat, yankee carpetbagging, POS Bull's stance on the supreme Court which is finally conservative after 100 years of socialist activism. This fat POS couldn't explain one issue to you but because CNN says they're bad, old captain cholesterol has to bitch and moan about them. I think you're confused, if you think my comment was about haslem. You gonna defend socialism now? Come at me.
The dome is so soft. Keep the browns in Cleveland.
Glittering dome for a bad team?
I'm for it !
Dome!
The JACK casino is about to lose alot of business
People Cleveland browns stadium was rush now they can take there time in buildings the dome I wish we could vote on it I think it would pass Kansas city Was Threaten To move If they didn't get a new stadium that way it didn't pass people was not Buying it the browns ant leaving Cleveland
Ok. Now take them out of Cleveland taxpayers pockets. More important needs with the money.
100% Absolutely disgraceful that money that could be used for education and improving quality of life is instead given to billionaires for their personal toys and a damn game. You have to be incredibly naive to think that money will trickle down into the local economy instead of ending up in an uber wealthy sociopath's pocket.
It’s going to Brooke park. No worries.
@@usware5240so there won’t be jobs for the people building all these projects or running them after they’re built?
@@frontierlandfrank5314 Unfortunately, the cost to taxpayers long term, will exceed the construction and concession stand jobs ...
They can't afford the upkeep on this stadium, imagine the cost for upkeep on the Dome.
Haslam is officially the worst owner of the Cleveland Browns have had. I don't want to be The Brookpark Browns. I want to keep The Browns in Cleveland. "The Cleveland Browns."
He's quite the opposite. The best owner we've had in quite a long time. Get out of your emotions
@@trishalogan4643 you have to be kidding me! The Deshaun Watson deal he made is a joke. And now he is moving the team out of downtown Cleveland just because he wants a dome. This is going to have long term negative effects on the city of Cleveland and make the cost of Browns tickets and our taxes go up. Sounds like he really cares about the team and the city 😒
Brookpark in subrus
Alot of teams play in locations that technically aren't there corresponding city. Also worst owner? Randy Lerner was awful. The browns are finally not a laughing stock and some browns fans still bitch and moan like we 0 and 16 we made the playoffs twice in the past 4 years bro chill
@@melvinsmith8444 maybe worst owner is a bit of an exaggeration from what I said. But I do feel this is a bad move for the city of Cleveland and the fans. Taxes will go up to pay for it and the cost of season tickets will go up. Not to mention if they let ppl tailgate in the new Brookpark area-it will get trashed. I think Haslam is in a bit of a tough place though with the Dome similar to Art Modell when he wanted to get more money for a stadium. The City doesn't seem to want to help Haslam build it and the city really hasn't done anything with the current stadium area on the waterfront to develop it any further. So what option does that leave him. No support from the city. I do appreciate him trying to go after bigger players and try to be more aggressive with the business. Is he a better owner than Lerner? Absolutely. But I wish he had some foresight to see the bigger picture of how this new Dome will affect the fans and the city of Cleveland. The Deshaun Watson deal was a mistake. The Johnny Manziel deal was a mistake. Hue Jackson was a mistake. I think this Dome is going to be a mistake as well. It's not even going to be a retractable Dome.
Will the Browns still be The Cleveland Browns in Brook Park or will they be The Brook Park Browns?
people will STILL party downtown during games,, relax
Against dome an being at Brooke Park
Building a Dome in Cleveland is the dumbest idea ever 🤦🏾♂️ Football is meant to played outdoors. It doesn’t get cold enough for a Dome . Playing on carpet is wack. If they move to a Dome I will no longer support this franchise.
Don't worry you won't be able to afford it😂
@@patrickmason7402 😂😂 that’s makes it better
@@patrickmason7402 they could sell them at preseason ticket prices and I wouldn’t go 😂😂
Go Browns. The thing of Babylonian society I'll accept
Columbus and Cincinnati aint and will never be the major market pull that Cleveland is in Ohio