Where gap in usa tree? if you talking about between M42 and M163 then, well what a problem use M42? It's good AA even for slightly higher br, and next after M163 Sergeant York who will show you what is best cannon AA in game.
@@f-5epilot950 are you memtal? You have a 4.0 Then a line of nothing, and then a 7.7 Then a 9.0 Meanwhile Russia has Russia has 7.0, .3 and .7 Britain has The same problem where you have 5.3 then 8.3
Gaijin should add the T77 SPAA or the T52 MGMC. T77 was an SPAA version of the chaffee while the T52 MGMC was a sherman varient that used a bofors @freedeoxide
I don't think this version was used by the afghan army, it was just used by the russians in the afghan war. They used it for fire support on the ground because removing the radar freed up a bunch of space for more ammo. Apparently they're also used by the Afghan army now
Despite the strong lineup it doesn't really matter, Soviet at ~7.0 sucks, they have a low win rate especially when paired with the Germans in a team, you essentially become free kills.
Я бы поспорил. Последний месяц я играю на советском 7.0, мой процент за этот месяц 61%, хотя я не очень хороший игрок. Но соглашусь, играть с немцами в команде - это превозмогает и боль, большинство игр в паре с немцами окончились поражением
The shilka (even with radar) is sh!t. It's slow, it can't shoot thing effectively outside 2km. The bullets is spread and can't punch through MBTs even on the side. It literally underwhelming compared to gepard or chieftain marksman. No radar ver at 7.3 has no problem at all
They used this version for ground support because as we know Russian vehicles generally have terribly gun elevation/depression and the AA obviously didn’t so it was used to fight insurgents in the mountains of Afghanistan
I prefer having the zsu 57 2 over the shilka cus you can actually fight off other tanks and help the team rather than sitting there and waiting getting bombed
Bro I’m British I have to wait from 5.3 with skink then 8.3 with the flacon (no radar) and then another whole ass rank just to get an aa with radar at 8.3 chieftain marksman.
It’s funny that the kugel’s HVAP belt with the high pen rounds has only a couple rounds of it between HE rounds while the zerstorer a .3 BR drop below it can get a full belt of it with an extra pair of cannons, but since it has a minuscule amount of armor it stays 7.0 because it can’t as easily be MG’d and that makes CAS users angry or any tank that has a .50 cal.
Cant wait for gaijin to add the USA's trailer bound spaa on a truck. While russia has trucks drsignated for spaa the us has mainly anti air thats pulled on a trailer. Again let gaijin add the early Patriot system and watch american win rates skyrocket.
And it’s the fucking same br as the weasel… Russia really gets the better stuff at lower brs. Missles at 9.0 with the aa guns yet Germany gets missles at 9.7 without guns unless u want to grind another vehicle right in the same folder that is also 9.7 with guns. They get better puma at the same br with 250mm pen vs 120 of the puma
Wiesel is a scout, and not really an AA. Russia does get a bit handheld though, coming from an 11.7 Russia player. But Sweden is more handheld at top tier i'd say.
I love how stuff like usa has a Massive aa gap and gaijin says
Fuck you here's *another* shilka
yup, sums it up
Where gap in usa tree? if you talking about between M42 and M163 then, well what a problem use M42? It's good AA even for slightly higher br, and next after M163 Sergeant York who will show you what is best cannon AA in game.
@@f-5epilot950 compare American SPAA's to Russian ones now. As a Russian main, the USA has worse SPAA.
@@f-5epilot950 are you memtal?
You have a 4.0
Then a line of nothing, and then a 7.7
Then a 9.0
Meanwhile Russia has
Russia has 7.0, .3 and .7
Britain has The same problem where you have 5.3 then 8.3
Gaijin should add the T77 SPAA or the T52 MGMC. T77 was an SPAA version of the chaffee while the T52 MGMC was a sherman varient that used a bofors @freedeoxide
Russia already having some of the better AA in the game and I’m stuck with the marksman until 10.0 :(
rip :(
Brit has three stab spaa at 8.3 while french has a shittier version at 8.7 so count yourself lucky
Meanwhile USA still using 50 cals
Marksman is cool dont diss it
The Shilka-M2 is a Shilka that is meant for an AFV role or for urban combat
exactly!
M42 Duster whistling Fortunate Son! M19 is setting up for a turkey shot.
The 4.0 m42 in my 6.7 lineup: _why are we here, just to suffer_
American SPAA gaps are so sad :(
@@MagikWT . Soviet ones are archaic. Four Maxims on a truck bed? Comrade, please!
I don't think this version was used by the afghan army, it was just used by the russians in the afghan war. They used it for fire support on the ground because removing the radar freed up a bunch of space for more ammo.
Apparently they're also used by the Afghan army now
ah, thank you for clearing that up
It was used by the Afghan army they still have around 8 of those
@@John-Doe896 yes I was about to say that
@@John-Doe896 had no idea Ty bro
Nice
The ZSU-23-4M2 was not made for anti air, it was made for infantry support apparently, that's why it doesn't have a radar.
yup
Nothing is better than the zsu-57
full auto aphe go brrrrrrrr
Despite the strong lineup it doesn't really matter, Soviet at ~7.0 sucks, they have a low win rate especially when paired with the Germans in a team, you essentially become free kills.
Я бы поспорил. Последний месяц я играю на советском 7.0, мой процент за этот месяц 61%, хотя я не очень хороший игрок. Но соглашусь, играть с немцами в команде - это превозмогает и боль, большинство игр в паре с немцами окончились поражением
Я думаю, это зависит от сервера, на котором вы играете
Honestly my winrates with 7.0-7.7 Russia are pretty good, but yes the Germans do water it down when you are paired with them
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Bout to get the 8.0 version in italy, cant wait to track cas, give em a present 😊
banish cas to the shadow realm
Was about to say, SIDAM? It’s trash btw play the shilka until you get the one with mistrals
Most realistic and balanced br for russian tank
what?
it's balanced at 7.3 tbh
The shilka (even with radar) is sh!t. It's slow, it can't shoot thing effectively outside 2km. The bullets is spread and can't punch through MBTs even on the side. It literally underwhelming compared to gepard or chieftain marksman. No radar ver at 7.3 has no problem at all
They used this version for ground support because as we know Russian vehicles generally have terribly gun elevation/depression and the AA obviously didn’t so it was used to fight insurgents in the mountains of Afghanistan
yup
did you happen to use the asklad test drive? the map looked very similar to poland which is the one that’s used.
yuh
@@MagikWT nice
Meanwhile japan goes from 5.3 to 8.3
Japan is quite the weird tech tree
@@MagikWT I enjoy it, you have to basically play with only TDs that pretend to be mediums for the entire thing
Nuh Uh, it is self propelled, which makes it a SPAA.
yes yes i know
@@MagikWT good Boy -_-
I prefer having the zsu 57 2 over the shilka cus you can actually fight off other tanks and help the team rather than sitting there and waiting getting bombed
ZSU-57 is a better tank destroyer than an SPAA
👍
Bro I’m British I have to wait from 5.3 with skink then 8.3 with the flacon (no radar) and then another whole ass rank just to get an aa with radar at 8.3 chieftain marksman.
RIP
Then how is the kugelblitz 7.0? Should be 6.7
It’s funny that the kugel’s HVAP belt with the high pen rounds has only a couple rounds of it between HE rounds while the zerstorer a .3 BR drop below it can get a full belt of it with an extra pair of cannons, but since it has a minuscule amount of armor it stays 7.0 because it can’t as easily be MG’d and that makes CAS users angry or any tank that has a .50 cal.
@@snaketanker dude on that br the mg arument is not valid anymore
Germany doesn't even have a 7.0 lineup tbh, should be 6.7
Please IM BEGGING YOU JUST GIVE THE US MID TEIR SPAA 🙏🙏🙏
YES
Gotta hate those Bosvarks, BTR-Zs, R3 T20s, Skinks, while were stuck with bofors. Meanwhile Israel gets a M16 MGMC with auto damn cannons
Cant wait for gaijin to add the USA's trailer bound spaa on a truck.
While russia has trucks drsignated for spaa the us has mainly anti air thats pulled on a trailer. Again let gaijin add the early Patriot system and watch american win rates skyrocket.
USA winrates are brought down by the Click-Bait and the AIM, not their tanks. The Abrams in WT itself is very strong, but yes their AA lags behind
Gaijin not adding yet another busted SPAA to their already inflated anti air line for Russia’s tech tree every other update challenge: *Impossible*
one million times fail
Weirdly enough, I do better without the radar on the shilka.
Shilka's radar is pretty mid
Russian spaa at 8.0
💪🏻👨🏻💪🏻
Usa spaa at 8.0
👨🏻🦼👎🏻😭
And it’s the fucking same br as the weasel… Russia really gets the better stuff at lower brs. Missles at 9.0 with the aa guns yet Germany gets missles at 9.7 without guns unless u want to grind another vehicle right in the same folder that is also 9.7 with guns. They get better puma at the same br with 250mm pen vs 120 of the puma
Wiesel is a scout, and not really an AA.
Russia does get a bit handheld though, coming from an 11.7 Russia player.
But Sweden is more handheld at top tier i'd say.
Man be a shame if they did something helpful...like put a spaa in the gap in the us tech tree
impossible...