Akira Toriyama, Koichi Sugiyama & Yuji Hori. Two of the Dragon Quest Holy Trinity have passed on. Rest in peace & thank you for the beautiful memories 😢
I must say, the big choice of if Luminary should abandon the “Mordegon” timeline, especially after his friends went through so much critical development, is extremely well-handled. You feel this...wrongness and sorrow not through a difficulty spike or losing abilities, you are saying goodbye to a world that you came to know and love, even through the hardships.
I like to think that everything after "the incident in the heart of Iggdrassil" from the first "timeline" just didn't happen, because the tall guy (I don't remember the name) said that you need to break the time itself. So the "new timeline" is the same, and you have memories from a lost past, a past that never existed. I like think so.
@@JuanHernandez-zy1ko yeah i really think act 3 really ruins the character development of act 2, cause everyone in the party suffers during the fall which makes everyone knows what is hope and friendship like final fantasy 6
@@tko_n1170 that really bothered me a lot. I was pretty upset. I thought Sylvando's segment with his soldiers of smile was one of the best examples of character development, and just to be re-written 😒. It really was a kick to the stomach. Seeing all the characters endure and overcome their hardships.. and then it's gone.
The news of Toriyama's passing really fucked me up last night. Dragon Quest is a series that holds a special place in my heart, especially DQ9, so finding out that the artist for DQ fucking died made me lose sleep and almost cry myself to sleep. And I've been loudly sobbing nonstop for the past half an hour with this blasting in my ears. Thank you for everything, Mr. Toriyama. Rest in peace, my dude...
The song of a man who has seen the world being destroyed, a man who discovered the body of his young friend, a man who has seen his father killed in the past, a man who has left all of his friends behind him in time to create a better world for everyone... but damnit he have the face of a fish and the personality of a rock.
"I suppose I began this journey thinking I was simply doing my duty. But it became... So much more than that. I'll never forget the time we spent together. So please, if you don't mind... I want you to take me with you, all over again!" -Serena
I played 7 as my first dragon quest game like 2-3 years ago and this was my second game, this song was really nostalgic for me. Played in some of the saddest moments.
@@Biggermeatyhooks Imo Serena is the best character. (ACT 2/3 SPOILERS) She had the best character development among the seven of the Hero's comrades. For years she was in her own little shell, even admitting that she was too scared to voice her own opinion in one of your party talks. Once she lost her sister, she realized that she really had to straighten up and take her job as the Luminary's protector seriously. She cut her hair as a sign of a new beginning, and with that, Veronica's spirit rewarded her with her own powers. With her newfound resolve, Serena outdid Rab for the rest of Act 2, having the best of both Magical Might and Magical Mending. I was really sad when the Luminary went back in time to prevent all this from happening. I know it was for a good cause, but Veronica's death was good sacrifice and really struck my heart. Having all that retconned made it feel like it was for nothing. If I had a choice, I would stay in the Luminary's OG timeline, with the friends that he truly made. The friends that he went on this grand quest with.
everyone's talking about the main quest, but I think of the mermaid and Kai every time I hear this song. such a well executed side story. edit : thank you akira toriyama. your art is what drew me to playing this amazing game.
the only reason I play this game 3 times for that particular part. That quest deserve a game of itself. DQ11 is so good mann. I never forget every bits of it
@@freddy007____9 i cried too, but this game is so well done 😍😭. I admit that when the game lead us to veronica's corpse, i couln't hold my tears. As well as the regret of telling Michelle the truth ... 😭
**Act 2 spoilers** Erik instantly panicing when the Veronica illusion started to fade away really got to me. He did NOT take that well at all... he got his memory and sister back but lost a found sister in the process... dude cant catch a break. The way he slammed the tree after hurt even more... my poor heart, man. *"NO!"*
Currently replaying the game after many years of slowly forgetting what happeend throughout the plot of it and when I got to this part it hurt. Since I played DQ11 all those years ago I've played so many other JRPGs and have learned to appreciate the art of digital storytelling, so seeing this scene again after all these years really hit hard.
Almost teared up hearing this again from Dragon Quest VII. Played in some pretty sad and emotional parts in that game. Hearing it remastered and placed in some pretty big story parts of XI S was absolutely fantastic! This song oozes with nostalgia
@@alejandro7138 Yes, Eri is actually a localization error of Ellie. But I don't know why they changed Zebbot's name. Maybe because it sounded "kiddie"?
Just started playing Dragon Warrior VII as it never came to the UK. Loved hearing this pipe up shortly after the game's opening chapter. Poor old Matilda. I can tell VII is shaping up to be a special experience as well. All the games in this series are treasures.
@@gaspump No, I agree with you. One of the reason I keep playing Dragon Quest game franchise is the music of Sugiyama. It's hard to describe his music with words, but every single score he composed suits perfectly with Dragon Quest, like Inviting Village from DQVI, it gives a dreamy feeling, which perfectly match the core theme of the game that revolves around the world of illusion.
And the theme where a new party joins you. It gives out a feeling of satisfactory, a conclusion to a conflict and forging of a new friendship, especially if the new party is one that had conflict with the protagonists prior to joining the party, e.g.: Terry from VI and Hendrik from XI.
I'm glad he's gone, and not for any personal opinions he held either. He phoned it in with DQ11's OST. 1 Song for every single outside location? Good riddance.
Eleven lived a pretty tragic life. Spoilers ahead: -He was separated from his family at birth -Both of his hometowns were destroyed (Cobblestone later turned into a warzone) -Also separated from his adoptive mother and childhood friend (who were assumed dead in act 1) -Lost Veronica in act 2 - *Witnessed his birth father's death* -Left his friends and family behind to create a better timeline Doesn't beat the protagonist from 5's hardships, but it comes close.
@@Thrifty032781 no they weren't erased, they went on in a world without him. Its like link in ocarina of time, being sent back to the past and making a branching time line
@@Thrifty032781 he didn’t erase the original timeline. we never see the timeline from act 1 and 2 again, but we do know that the second timeline in act 3 wasn’t erased after serenica went back in time. the time glow ball thingy doesn’t undo one specific timeline, it branches it out into multiple paths. come to think of it, that might be wrong, because we don’t know if the post credits scene with erdwick from dq3 takes place in the serenica and erdwin timeline or the act 3 timeline. man this timeline stuff is confusing.
@@jashi2920 The only weird thing is that many of the characters in Act III speak as if time has been reversed, instead of a split timeline having been created. Like the entire world seems to have this sense of deja vu. It’s really quite bizarre.
@@davontayleon1667 Dude Erik and Veronica, were my favorite characters when I got to the moment when she was revealed to have been killed I actually teared up.
Michelle waited for so long, just to find out her lover had left her ever so long ago. She just wanted to be with her Kai. But now, they are together at long last.
Dragon Quest 7 still has the saddest stories and quest of the whole saga. No suprise they reused this song for some of the best parts of Dragon Quest XI.
con orgullo puedo decirlo que yo ya completè el Dragon quest 11 :D -La sirena y su suicidio me hicieron llorar demasiado, la caida de Nautica me puso mal, y la muerte de veronica OMG llorè dias hasta esperar un desenlace contrario :(
Sugiyama's music will be remembered and loved, not the man himself. He's burning in hell for all the things he actively went through hoops to denied. The plus side is, at least he's got company with Shinzo Abe there.
@@mi2-c035 Exactly. Suigiyama was a horrible horrible man for the things he thought due to the alt right in Japanese culture, but he composed so many memorable songs we love and still make us feel emotions. Yes, people in Japan even frowned on the stuff he said, especially those our age who grew up on the DQ games.
who can claim that the world safe or sorta , by loosing the personn you hanged with since the verry beginning , is actually a happy end :( . none of us , of course
It should be given a small sidequest after Luminary met his father again in the alternate timeline with suddenly the gloomnivore one last strike against Luminary which prompting all of his allies to try to awaken him from his slumber. There they might met with their counterpart from original timeline that allows them to "upgrade" their skill board while at the same time found out why the Luminary decided to travel to the alternate timeline. This Ost played during the original timeline party member parting ways forever with Luminary during their last goodbye while at the same time encouraging him to never stray on his decision.
One day scientists will discover why people can't just enjoy music, and instead they feel the unrequested necessity to write spoilers of the story of the game.
Spoiler… But I gotta ask. When Veronica died, wasn’t it like a few months passed before her body was found? Shouldn’t it be decomposing already or something?
Spoiler Dragon Quest takes a fairy tale approach to a lot of things, so realism is sometimes sidelined to present events in an artistic manner. Her body fades into motes of light after being discovered, similar to how monsters disappear into a wispy smoke when defeated. As far as we know, bodies in the DQ universe don't decompose the same way they do in the real world.
@@DragonQuestMusic edited. I guess the rules on our reality doesn’t apply to DQ’s world. But yeah that was what was going through my mind when the scene was playing. And the townspeople didn’t bother to check the area for months?
Veronica is dead in Act 2. During the Fall of Yggdrasil, she sacrifices herself to save the rest of the party from Mordegon’s great attack. With that being said, Pep powers involving her are prohibited in Act 2.
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Rest in Peace, Toriyama
Sugiyama and now Toriyama. It'll never be the same without them.
Akira Toriyama, Koichi Sugiyama & Yuji Hori. Two of the Dragon Quest Holy Trinity have passed on. Rest in peace & thank you for the beautiful memories 😢
I must say, the big choice of if Luminary should abandon the “Mordegon” timeline, especially after his friends went through so much critical development, is extremely well-handled. You feel this...wrongness and sorrow not through a difficulty spike or losing abilities, you are saying goodbye to a world that you came to know and love, even through the hardships.
I copied my save so I can go in the new world AND stay in the normal one
I like to think that everything after "the incident in the heart of Iggdrassil" from the first "timeline" just didn't happen, because the tall guy (I don't remember the name) said that you need to break the time itself. So the "new timeline" is the same, and you have memories from a lost past, a past that never existed. I like think so.
@@JuanHernandez-zy1ko yeah i really think act 3 really ruins the character development of act 2, cause everyone in the party suffers during the fall which makes everyone knows what is hope and friendship like final fantasy 6
@@zaussairienth4249 Sakurai goes “No! That’s not how you’re supposed to play the game!”
@@tko_n1170 that really bothered me a lot. I was pretty upset. I thought Sylvando's segment with his soldiers of smile was one of the best examples of character development, and just to be re-written 😒. It really was a kick to the stomach. Seeing all the characters endure and overcome their hardships.. and then it's gone.
The news of Toriyama's passing really fucked me up last night. Dragon Quest is a series that holds a special place in my heart, especially DQ9, so finding out that the artist for DQ fucking died made me lose sleep and almost cry myself to sleep. And I've been loudly sobbing nonstop for the past half an hour with this blasting in my ears. Thank you for everything, Mr. Toriyama. Rest in peace, my dude...
All toriyama… no sugiyama though…. It’s his work 😂😂😂.
The song of a man who has seen the world being destroyed, a man who discovered the body of his young friend, a man who has seen his father killed in the past, a man who has left all of his friends behind him in time to create a better world for everyone... but damnit he have the face of a fish and the personality of a rock.
Not to mention losing two hometowns by the same villain.
XD
This game lost so much not making a good MC
discovered the body of his young friend? I don't exactly remember what that was, could you remind me?
@@TaimourRY Veronica, in the 2nd acte. Do you remember now ?
"I suppose I began this journey thinking I was simply doing my duty. But it became... So much more than that. I'll never forget the time we spent together. So please, if you don't mind... I want you to take me with you, all over again!"
-Serena
this is the perfect song for the tearjerking moments
I played 7 as my first dragon quest game like 2-3 years ago and this was my second game, this song was really nostalgic for me. Played in some of the saddest moments.
Darnit Michelle...
"To Kai, my guy. From Michelle, your belle."
To post game ppl: “See you on the other side!”
eyyyy thats me :)
Ma boi Erik
@@skyunion2400 Erik is the best character and anyone who says otherwise is probably born of the void.
@@Biggermeatyhooks People say sylvando is the best character but they’re obviously wrong
@@Biggermeatyhooks Imo Serena is the best character. (ACT 2/3 SPOILERS)
She had the best character development among the seven of the Hero's comrades. For years she was in her own little shell, even admitting that she was too scared to voice her own opinion in one of your party talks. Once she lost her sister, she realized that she really had to straighten up and take her job as the Luminary's protector seriously. She cut her hair as a sign of a new beginning, and with that, Veronica's spirit rewarded her with her own powers. With her newfound resolve, Serena outdid Rab for the rest of Act 2, having the best of both Magical Might and Magical Mending.
I was really sad when the Luminary went back in time to prevent all this from happening. I know it was for a good cause, but Veronica's death was good sacrifice and really struck my heart. Having all that retconned made it feel like it was for nothing. If I had a choice, I would stay in the Luminary's OG timeline, with the friends that he truly made. The friends that he went on this grand quest with.
Thank you, Toriyama.
everyone's talking about the main quest, but I think of the mermaid and Kai every time I hear this song. such a well executed side story.
edit : thank you akira toriyama. your art is what drew me to playing this amazing game.
I cried seeing that lol and I'm a grown ass man😂
Some tears may have been shed. I wasn't counting
the only reason I play this game 3 times for that particular part. That quest deserve a game of itself.
DQ11 is so good mann. I never forget every bits of it
Choosing to die along with your beloved Man over living for 500 hundred years, that what I call a real love
@@freddy007____9 i cried too, but this game is so well done 😍😭. I admit that when the game lead us to veronica's corpse, i couln't hold my tears.
As well as the regret of telling Michelle the truth ... 😭
RIP Akira Toriyama (1955-2024)
**Act 2 spoilers**
Erik instantly panicing when the Veronica illusion started to fade away really got to me.
He did NOT take that well at all... he got his memory and sister back but lost a found sister in the process... dude cant catch a break.
The way he slammed the tree after hurt even more... my poor heart, man.
*"NO!"*
Currently replaying the game after many years of slowly forgetting what happeend throughout the plot of it and when I got to this part it hurt. Since I played DQ11 all those years ago I've played so many other JRPGs and have learned to appreciate the art of digital storytelling, so seeing this scene again after all these years really hit hard.
Everytime I hear this song it brings tears to my eyes, it’s so sad, yet so beautiful at the same time.
Almost teared up hearing this again from Dragon Quest VII. Played in some pretty sad and emotional parts in that game. Hearing it remastered and placed in some pretty big story parts of XI S was absolutely fantastic! This song oozes with nostalgia
Yes, the tragic story of Zebbot and Eri, for example.
@@marditandra5940 I only played the remake so the names are different. But yes, I still can't get over that. ELLIE and Autonymus.
@@alejandro7138 Yes, Eri is actually a localization error of Ellie. But I don't know why they changed Zebbot's name. Maybe because it sounded "kiddie"?
I was just listening to the original VII soundtrack earlier today, and when I heard this song it just awakened all those memories again
@@marditandra5940 OMG SOMEONE ELSE REMEMBERS! Zebbot sick. Make soup. Zebbot feel better.
"Oh dearie, even in your final moments, you were thinking of your friends..."
Serena: "I hope you take me with you all over again!"
"Oh darling... Even in your final moments. You were thinking of your friends"
Thank you for the beautiful music, especially from my childhood, Koichi Sugiyama. I sincerely hope you are in heaven, and that you've found peace.
R.I.P..😭❤️
Well-
Just started playing Dragon Warrior VII as it never came to the UK. Loved hearing this pipe up shortly after the game's opening chapter. Poor old Matilda. I can tell VII is shaping up to be a special experience as well. All the games in this series are treasures.
Love how the song, even though its sad, has a feeling of pushing forward, and growing from the experience rather than letting it depress you.
R.I.P Koichi-san :(
Koichi Sugiyama is sadly gone
But from his music he will always live on.
I hate my comment for being so cheezy but the music is so good, and Michelle's substory is so good.
@@gaspump No, I agree with you. One of the reason I keep playing Dragon Quest game franchise is the music of Sugiyama. It's hard to describe his music with words, but every single score he composed suits perfectly with Dragon Quest, like Inviting Village from DQVI, it gives a dreamy feeling, which perfectly match the core theme of the game that revolves around the world of illusion.
And the theme where a new party joins you. It gives out a feeling of satisfactory, a conclusion to a conflict and forging of a new friendship, especially if the new party is one that had conflict with the protagonists prior to joining the party, e.g.: Terry from VI and Hendrik from XI.
I'm glad he's gone, and not for any personal opinions he held either. He phoned it in with DQ11's OST. 1 Song for every single outside location? Good riddance.
@@GetterRay Yikes, being glad someone is dead because they didn't go all out on a game...that's pretty dang selfish of you.
RIP Koichi Sugiyama
Erik, yer memory is back!
Eleven lived a pretty tragic life. Spoilers ahead:
-He was separated from his family at birth
-Both of his hometowns were destroyed (Cobblestone later turned into a warzone)
-Also separated from his adoptive mother and childhood friend (who were assumed dead in act 1)
-Lost Veronica in act 2
- *Witnessed his birth father's death*
-Left his friends and family behind to create a better timeline
Doesn't beat the protagonist from 5's hardships, but it comes close.
Well in the end,he got a happy ending like Abel(DQ5 protagonist),so kinda worth it in my view
He met his friends again when he got back to the past. The original ones were erased after he stopped Mordegon from bringing down Yggdrasil.
@@Thrifty032781 no they weren't erased, they went on in a world without him. Its like link in ocarina of time, being sent back to the past and making a branching time line
@@Thrifty032781 he didn’t erase the original timeline. we never see the timeline from act 1 and 2 again, but we do know that the second timeline in act 3 wasn’t erased after serenica went back in time. the time glow ball thingy doesn’t undo one specific timeline, it branches it out into multiple paths. come to think of it, that might be wrong, because we don’t know if the post credits scene with erdwick from dq3 takes place in the serenica and erdwin timeline or the act 3 timeline. man this timeline stuff is confusing.
@@jashi2920 The only weird thing is that many of the characters in Act III speak as if time has been reversed, instead of a split timeline having been created. Like the entire world seems to have this sense of deja vu. It’s really quite bizarre.
RIP Akira Toriyama
"Did you do it?"
"Yes"
"What did it cost?"
"Serena's haircut and Everyone's character development"
Why must the good die so young
I really disliked Veronica's mannerism until I discovered this... I changed my mind... (TwT)
Erik punches the tree DAMN IT
@@davontayleon1667 Erik procedes to yump of a cliff
@@davontayleon1667 Dude Erik and Veronica, were my favorite characters when I got to the moment when she was revealed to have been killed I actually teared up.
@@Biggermeatyhooks good think act three clutched up. Veronica was hella confused when the mc was staring at her
Talk about sadness in heart, this year we lost Koichi Sugiyama.
Why this month? Why do you left us Toriyama-san?
I LOVED hearing this. As an OG DQ7 fan, this made me happy. Which is weird with how sad this song is but yea.
The sad ignorance of commenters paying homage to Toriyama but not the man who literally composed the track. RIP Sugiyama
Michelle waited for so long, just to find out her lover had left her ever so long ago. She just wanted to be with her Kai. But now, they are together at long last.
I was straight up bawling at that part
🥺🥺🥺
Dragon Quest 7 still has the saddest stories and quest of the whole saga. No suprise they reused this song for some of the best parts of Dragon Quest XI.
And still Dragon Quest VII has so much more potential.
@@Zugzielanzeiger of course ! It's the best one !
“NO”
Bro when he said, that shit broke me I can’t lie.
con orgullo puedo decirlo que yo ya completè el Dragon quest 11 :D
-La sirena y su suicidio me hicieron llorar demasiado, la caida de Nautica me puso mal, y la muerte de veronica OMG llorè dias hasta esperar un desenlace contrario :(
Buah! La muerte de Verónica me sacó lágrimas también, y si, el sacrificio de toda Náutica por hacer al héroe escapar. 😞
Rest In Peace Koichi Sugiyama! You will always be remembered and loved by us!
This man actively denied Japanese war crimes bro. Yikes...
us? who’s us?
Sugiyama's music will be remembered and loved, not the man himself. He's burning in hell for all the things he actively went through hoops to denied. The plus side is, at least he's got company with Shinzo Abe there.
yeah we can all hate him as human being for the things he said, but still respect his music.
@@mi2-c035 Exactly. Suigiyama was a horrible horrible man for the things he thought due to the alt right in Japanese culture, but he composed so many memorable songs we love and still make us feel emotions. Yes, people in Japan even frowned on the stuff he said, especially those our age who grew up on the DQ games.
🙏RIP Koichi Sugiyama
Idk what it is about this song. It’s so beautiful yet sad.
Farewell, Koichi Sugiyama...........(cries like i did for *DQXI Spoiler Warning!*
Veronica in Act 2)
“NO!”
*punches tree*
I felt that so hard, oml
who can claim that the world safe or sorta , by loosing the personn you hanged with since the verry beginning , is actually a happy end :( . none of us , of course
It should be given a small sidequest after Luminary met his father again in the alternate timeline with suddenly the gloomnivore one last strike against Luminary which prompting all of his allies to try to awaken him from his slumber. There they might met with their counterpart from original timeline that allows them to "upgrade" their skill board while at the same time found out why the Luminary decided to travel to the alternate timeline. This Ost played during the original timeline party member parting ways forever with Luminary during their last goodbye while at the same time encouraging him to never stray on his decision.
One day scientists will discover why people can't just enjoy music, and instead they feel the unrequested necessity to write spoilers of the story of the game.
Veronica 😢
I would’ve preferred that they use “Remembrances” from Dragon Quest VIII. Maybe if the Dragon Quest VIII music option extended to this.
Kai and the mermaid , dundrasil , hero and his family , veronica all homies who could not play this on earth ....
Akira o7
Me encanta
Wow~~I feel like it's film OST, not a game OST~~ Lost my words~~!
Lindo
Poor Michelle 🥺🥺🥺
Spoiler…
But I gotta ask. When Veronica died, wasn’t it like a few months passed before her body was found? Shouldn’t it be decomposing already or something?
Spoiler
Dragon Quest takes a fairy tale approach to a lot of things, so realism is sometimes sidelined to present events in an artistic manner. Her body fades into motes of light after being discovered, similar to how monsters disappear into a wispy smoke when defeated. As far as we know, bodies in the DQ universe don't decompose the same way they do in the real world.
@@DragonQuestMusic edited.
I guess the rules on our reality doesn’t apply to DQ’s world. But yeah that was what was going through my mind when the scene was playing. And the townspeople didn’t bother to check the area for months?
Major Spoilers for Act 2
I think her body was a projection since it dissapeared right after the vision
Why must the good die young :(
try not to cry challenge (impossible)
When does this play in the game?
Spoiler Warning This is big boy spoiler btw
When Veronica Dies
@@Biggermeatyhooks Ohhh, is it when they find the body at the tree?
@@ecksoal Yes.
Also when Michelle kills herself
@@MaxGeorges156 It also plays when Mia turns to gold and Erik gets all sad
Sacrifice song.
where does this song play again?
I cant remember all the cutscenes it plays in but the Michelle and Kai cutscene and when the protagonist departs through time into the past
@@jesslloyd3476 Thank you man
Veronica is dead in Act 2. During the Fall of Yggdrasil, she sacrifices herself to save the rest of the party from Mordegon’s great attack. With that being said, Pep powers involving her are prohibited in Act 2.
“We of arboria swear to protect you, while we live… none will defeat you.”
Spoiler
NEVAH GUNNA GIVE U UP
NEVAH GUNNA LET U DOWN