World’s 25 Oldest Baseball Stadiums

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @baseballinternational174
    @baseballinternational174  8 месяцев назад +5

    Thanks for your comments everyone. Here is a list of stadiums that were left out
    Stan Galle Field Mobile, AL 1889
    Wahconah Park Pittsfield, MA 1892 or 1919
    Simmons Field Kenosha, WI 1920
    Grayson Stadium Savannah, GA 1926

    • @jmfdm1
      @jmfdm1 8 месяцев назад

      Nickerson Field (now BU owned) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickerson_Field

    • @laddiedean318
      @laddiedean318 7 месяцев назад

      I am from Pittsfield Massachusetts wahconah park is my home town field

    • @generalbullmoose
      @generalbullmoose 7 месяцев назад

      I've been to Wahconah & Grayson. Rickety old parks, but that's what makes them great.

    • @laddiedean318
      @laddiedean318 7 месяцев назад

      @@generalbullmoose the grandstands are no longer safe they are working on a plan to renovate

    • @moby628
      @moby628 7 месяцев назад

      @@laddiedean318 And have suspended the Suns season 😒

  • @ssjgohink3617
    @ssjgohink3617 8 месяцев назад +13

    Catching London Majors games at Labatt Park is one of my favorite summer activities. It's like catching a game in a museum.

    • @BunnEFartz
      @BunnEFartz 8 месяцев назад

      @ssjgohink3617 My favorite place in the world to catch a baseball game. So much history.

    • @chrisman867
      @chrisman867 7 месяцев назад

      huh I don't think I realized it was there in the five and a half years I lived there.

  • @mikeschiesel2852
    @mikeschiesel2852 8 месяцев назад +13

    Great video, I was waiting for Wahconah Park in Pittsfield, MA. Built in 1859. It's been home to several minor league teams and now hosts the Pittsfield Suns a collegiate league team. It has the unusual feature of a "sun time out" as the stadium was built before lights. Now evening games need a time out as the sun goes down as home plate faces west.

    • @jeffrey.a.hanson
      @jeffrey.a.hanson 8 месяцев назад +1

      I was too, but there seems to be a discrepancy of when it was built for baseball. I played there a bunch of times and that sun was BRUTAL if you got caught batting in that ‘in between’ inning or already had a rain delay and there was a night game.

  • @BallparkHunter
    @BallparkHunter 8 месяцев назад +14

    The problem with some of these ballparks is that they may be the original structure or grandstand. For example, McCormick Field was rebuilt in 1992, and it's not the original stadium from 1924. The same can be said in London, Ontario. They indeed playing field is the same site, but the stadiums have changed.

    • @ThatC1official
      @ThatC1official 8 месяцев назад +4

      Some baseball stadiums need to be like cricket grounds where there's old and new structures mix together

  • @dougfowler1368
    @dougfowler1368 8 месяцев назад +6

    I was at Fenway in 1991 and Wrigley in 1990. It's amazing there are ones so much older.

  • @Spearca
    @Spearca 8 месяцев назад +7

    The Federal League played three seasons, 1913-1915, and is usually counted as a "major league" for the last two.

  • @BrianThorp
    @BrianThorp 8 месяцев назад +3

    Providence Park in Portland which was converted to soccer to host the Portand Timbers was built in 1926 and hosted minor league baseball until 2010. The site started hosting baseball since 1896.

  • @abc-eb7rq
    @abc-eb7rq 8 месяцев назад +2

    Going to the "Hall of Fame Game" at Doubleday Field in Cooperstown used to be a big event around there.

  • @generalbullmoose
    @generalbullmoose 7 месяцев назад +2

    McCormick Field is a FANTASTIC place to see a game! Not only the setting, but the fans are great...it's like everybody knows everybody else.

  • @chattownman
    @chattownman 8 месяцев назад +3

    You overlooked Historic Stan Galle Field on the campus of Spring Hill College in Mobile, Alabama. The Badgers have been playing on that field since as far back as 1886. That makes it one of the oldest continuously used college baseball fields in America.

    • @lancatemujhin187
      @lancatemujhin187 7 месяцев назад +1

      Agree. It is a very old field and I have umpired there.

  • @oscaralbertoguerrero9143
    @oscaralbertoguerrero9143 8 месяцев назад +3

    I don't know if it meets the criteria, but ... Estadio Universitario in Culiacán, México was built in 1921, originally for Baseball. It was Home to Tacuarineros, and then to Tomateros until 1947. When Tomateros moved to a new Stadium.
    It still being used today, owned and maintained by the University of Sinaloa mainly for Football and Soccer.

  • @CatGoomba64
    @CatGoomba64 8 месяцев назад +2

    There's a very old stadium in Manchester NH called Gill Stadium. There was an older field in the same location as early as 1880 however the modern stadium was constructed in 1913 and hosted minor league baseball for a few years. It was eventually revived for use by the NH Fisher Cats until Delta Dental Stadium was built nearby. Today it hosts high school baseball as well as youth and amateur leagues

  • @RicP23
    @RicP23 8 месяцев назад +4

    I was lucky enough to actually to play at Labatt park in London for the Ontario high School provincial finals. Pretty awesome to play a such a historic stadium.

    • @1982kinger
      @1982kinger 8 месяцев назад

      I remember going to sew the London Tigers when I was a kid

  • @aegisofhonor
    @aegisofhonor 8 месяцев назад +5

    I was suprised to find that what is "officially" the oldest baseball field is NOT in the United States but in Canada and Cuba respectively.

  • @flamingfrancis
    @flamingfrancis 8 месяцев назад +2

    Many thanks for the mention.The history of the game in Australia goes bacl well before MLB was formed. Sydney (or rather the New South Wales Baseball League) commemorated one hundred years of CONTINUOUS play in 1998 and there had been broken Leagues / Associations for at least 25 years prior to that. Lots of US people that came here for the gold rush days in 1850's and several business operations that had factory teams prior to WW2.

  • @brianhurt8694
    @brianhurt8694 8 месяцев назад +4

    Bosse (Boss-eee) Field and League Stadium are beautiful! Both were used in A League of Their Own. You Otter be a kid, again, so go to Evansville, IN to see Historic Bosse Field and the Otters. Since there’s no crying in baseball, go watch the Dubois (Do-boys) County Bombers in Huntingburg, IN.

  • @gnoblis
    @gnoblis 5 месяцев назад +1

    In Mexico, the oldest stadium of the LMB is the Revolución de Torreón Stadium. It is the home of the Unión Laguna team, it was inaugurated in 1932, its current capacity is for 10,689 spectators and it is the one with the deepest center field at 422 feet. Along the foul lines it measures 333 feet.

  • @HockeyMetalRPG
    @HockeyMetalRPG 8 месяцев назад +1

    Spent many a game at Centennial Field. Watched the UVM Catamounts, Vermont Reds, Vermont Mariners (saw Ken Griffey Jr.), Vermont Expos and The Vermont Lake Monsters. It's also the home of the State HIgh School baseball Championship. I've broadcasted a few of those Title Games on the radio. Love this old Ballpark.

  • @bobschenkel7921
    @bobschenkel7921 7 месяцев назад +1

    As a Red Sox fan I have been to Fenway Park many times, and it is always a treat. The first game I went to there was a Monday Night in September of 1972, Red Sox v Yankees, and it was a real eye opener. I have also been to Doubleday Field in Cooperstown, N.Y., but not for a game, just to look around. It was also used in the movie "A League Of Their Own", in the final scene, where the real Alumnae of the league were playing a spirited exhibition game.

  • @jeffrey.a.hanson
    @jeffrey.a.hanson 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice throwback to my playing days. Doubleday, Vermont, Fenway, Worcester…and my all-time favorite Bosse Field. Otter 4 Life.

  • @towtowstrailtalk6853
    @towtowstrailtalk6853 8 месяцев назад +2

    Went to Bosse Field evansville, Indiana, quite a bit as a child, it was a minor league, ballpark for the Detroit Tigers, then known as the Evansville triplets. I was a cardinal fan so we went to watch the Louisville Redbirds when they was in town. Saw Vince Coleman , Dwight Evans Keith Hernandez and Ozzie Smith, who was on a rehab assignment play there , been Wrigley field a few times . But being a diehard cardinal fan, I did not enjoy Wrigley field. lol awesome video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Tha_ZodiacKiller
    @Tha_ZodiacKiller 6 месяцев назад +1

    I recently worked for a lighting company that put new stadium lights up at Lecom Park in Bradenton, Florida. Beautiful stadium and was awesome to work there for a little over 2 weeks! 5:23

  • @frankiecastelloncaps
    @frankiecastelloncaps 8 месяцев назад +2

    Best baseball experience is Asheville's McCormick Field. Love the atmosphere and I have been to a few minor and major league ballparks, hands down the best and im glad they are getting a well deserved renovation.

  • @paulw4310
    @paulw4310 7 месяцев назад +1

    I've been to many games at LECOM Park, but mostly when it was known as McKechnie Field, from 1962 until 2017. McKechnie had been the only ballpark used by a major league team at any time of the year (Spring Training) that lacked lights. That changed in 2008 when lights were installed. That facilitated minor league baseball and the Marauders began playing there in 2010, the first minor league baseball played in Bradenton since 1926 (when it was called City Park). It's been renovated multiple times since my first game there in 1989. Back then it was really old school and in my opinion, a lot cooler than after the fancy upgrades...although it still retains somewhat of a retro look.

  • @JamesBravomg
    @JamesBravomg 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this enjoyable video.
    I have been to several of these fields and have enjoyed the aura of how the game of baseball is played in these ageless structures. Fitton Field in Worcester with the Bravehearts has been the sight of several evenings of enjoyable minor league play along with my family.
    I would very much appreciate a similar documentary on some of the ball parks from the Cape Cod league, as there is PLENTY of history from those, along with a lengthy list of alumni who played in those parks as young men.

  • @royburns8882
    @royburns8882 8 месяцев назад +4

    Bowman Field, Williamsport, PA also 1926

    • @RickImus
      @RickImus 8 месяцев назад

      Played there in 2013. I understand the lights were transfered from the Polo Grounds when upgeades were made by the Mets organization.

  • @MattKrack
    @MattKrack 8 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video, thanks! Was glad to see Rickwood on there, I don't think it has always gotten its due. The field in Huntingburg, IN was also in some shoots for A League of Their Own, but not as prominent in the movie. My mom pulled us out of school to be extras there, she felt it was a good enough learning experience. She ended up in some scenes at Bosse that made the cut. Not that it matters much, but the Southern IN pronunciation is "Boss-ee", there's also a high school there named after the same person (Benjamin Bosse). I think Dubois County where Huntingburg is for some reason pronounced "Doo-boy" - for reasons I'm not sure, but I've never heard it pronounced the way you'd think it would be as a French-origin word.

  • @brianmoore6724
    @brianmoore6724 8 месяцев назад +1

    Seen many games in Tainan Stadium in Taiwan, few games in Meiji Jingu Stadium, one game in McCormick so far, bunch of games at Lecom Park in Bradenton, saw a Hall of Fame Game at Doubleday in 2007, saw a DH at Bosse Field a couple years ago, of course Wrigley, one game in Jackie Robinson Park in Dayton, Fenway of course but only twice, caught a college game in Rickwood last year, saw a Pecos League game a few years back at Warren Ballpark, saw my first game at Cardines Field last year and it moved up to one of my favorites, one game at Goss Field so far, two memorable games at Centennial field in one of my favorite towns Burlington, saw the Worcester Tornadoes at Hanover Insurance Park at Fitton Field, one game at League Stadium....not too bad....some to still strive for..

  • @BadlandsBandit
    @BadlandsBandit 8 месяцев назад +2

    Centennial Field in Burlington, VT is a gem 💎! A well kept, old ballpark that is the home of the Lake Monsters 🐉 - one of the best nicknames in baseball period. Lots of that Vermont green, but still beautiful. Truly a great time on a summer night if you are ever in Burlington. Check it out!

  • @Nein1no
    @Nein1no 8 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome video! You just educated me on something I had put off studying for years. 😂😂
    Also, I have an idea for a potential video you might be interested in; I was making a list of some of the most interesting places/beautiful places/weird baseball fields outside North America. I never completed my list - as the number of parks dedicated to baseball is far too many for one person to manage, but I would be happy to share what I've found!

  • @vermontmike9800
    @vermontmike9800 8 месяцев назад +1

    Missing something about Cardines…has a unique hockey bench style dugout configuration. Aka, side by side dugouts.

  • @wiedep
    @wiedep 8 месяцев назад

    Failed to mention that at Robinson Ballpark in Daytona, the grandstand directly behind home plate dates back to the 40's made mostly of wood timbers.
    Also omitted Wahconah Park Pittsfield Mass., opened 1919 home to scores of minor league teams and part of the Futures Collegiate Baseball League since
    2012. Much of the pre-WWII grandstand (wood/corrugated metal) still stands.

  • @untouchedsports8296
    @untouchedsports8296 8 месяцев назад +1

    Canada Day fireworks at Labatt park as a kid. Will never forget.

  • @bobsantos274
    @bobsantos274 8 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome video thoroughly enjoyed that.

  • @jayfelsberg1931
    @jayfelsberg1931 8 месяцев назад +2

    The Bears won the 1963 NFL championship over the Giants on a very frozen day. Billy Wade scored two TDs in QB sneaks

  • @garrethmccutchan1732
    @garrethmccutchan1732 8 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been to Bosse Field 4 times and the atmosphere was amazing by the way the Evansville Otters went 3-1 in those games.

  • @SkiBBQ
    @SkiBBQ 8 месяцев назад +2

    Warren Park had minor league in the late 20s Early 30s.
    You also have School Hill Park/Central Field in Globe, Arizona. It grandstands we’re built in 1906 but removed in the 1980s.
    It also had minor league in late 20s thru the 30s. It is still used for baseball by the Globe Tigers

    • @baseballinternational174
      @baseballinternational174  8 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for your comment. I see that the Bisbee Bees played at Warren between 1928 and 1941. Didn’t see that before.
      But I couldn’t find any info on a baseball field in Globe. Do you have a source for that?

    • @SkiBBQ
      @SkiBBQ 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@baseballinternational174 I’m the groundskeeper there and I’m still complying all the info but I can send you what I have.

  • @coreyl7853
    @coreyl7853 8 месяцев назад +2

    Used to play in the sunset league at Cardines in Newport RI. I think your dimensions were off because it's like 360 to the deepest part of that park

    • @baseballinternational174
      @baseballinternational174  8 месяцев назад +1

      My source for that was projectballpark.org. I couldn’t find the dimensions on any other site. Did they bring the fences in for the last renovation?

    • @coreyl7853
      @coreyl7853 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@baseballinternational174 so it would have had to be before the houses in left center were built which would have been before my time. I'm 34 but it's been the same dimensions as long as I can remember. Funny quirk to the park. The building in right field was considered the foul line. So if the ball hit the building it's a foul ball but it didn't quite line up with the foul line and angled into the field a little

  • @dustanglx50
    @dustanglx50 8 месяцев назад +1

    League Park Cleveland Ohio (1891), Home to the Spiders, Indians, a couple NFL teams and a NCAA football team (Western Reserve) was never fully demolished, and was aloud to go into disrepair for many years, but never fully left, and was reclaimed in 2014. Home plate is still in the same place it was in 1891, and a little of the original structure is still standing. I think it's used by youth leagues now. It holds a few hundred people. If a football stadium qualifies, this should also.

  • @adsfishin9751
    @adsfishin9751 5 месяцев назад +1

    I was hoping Duncan Park in Spartanburg, SC. It was built in 1926.

  • @mediochreeuchre8391
    @mediochreeuchre8391 7 месяцев назад +1

    The local pronunciation of the county where the Huntingdale team plays is Du-Boys. No idea why, and took me awhile to get used to.

  • @Eddunaway-fl3rk
    @Eddunaway-fl3rk 8 месяцев назад +1

    My neighbor that went to that field that ty Cobb played at 1920 with the tigers he was 6 years old when it happened he was born in 1914 he passed away in 2002

  • @williamb6130
    @williamb6130 8 месяцев назад +2

    You included a football stadium based on the fact it was originally built for baseball. If that is the case, why isn't Nickerson Field at Boston Univ not considered. It was originally Braves Field built in 1915?

  • @MichaelMckinnon-q6e
    @MichaelMckinnon-q6e 8 месяцев назад

    Actually Baseball stadiums have been built since the late 1800s, for example National League Park in Cleveland, Ohio which was also known as League Park, built in 1891 although it's slightly younger than Rickwood Field, which was originally built in 1886. Old Tiger Stadium last I knew was still being used for highschool games and other special events and was built as Navin Field in 1907

  • @TheJdawg1276
    @TheJdawg1276 8 месяцев назад +1

    Guess Finch field in high point didn't make the list built in 1935 . I love going to see the HiToms play there feels like I'm watching from the past.

  • @MXSHYYYY
    @MXSHYYYY 8 месяцев назад +2

    This channel is underrated

  • @robertbaird5016
    @robertbaird5016 8 месяцев назад +2

    Next video: obscure baseball parks

  • @Eddunaway-fl3rk
    @Eddunaway-fl3rk 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video I had a neighbor that went to the 2nd oldest baseball stadium you mentioned that ty Cobb played at with the tigers he had 2 triples in the game and stoneln home stwice but called a big fight the 2nd time after her spicked that famous Italian catcher that played that played for the Red socks I forgot his name to ty Cobb spiked in the 6:30 and I think it was my neighbor across the street told me all about the stadium and what happened to ty Cobb in the fight they had with ty Cobb

  • @hifijohn
    @hifijohn 7 месяцев назад

    I had no idea there were baseball fields older than fenway park.

  • @robertbaird5016
    @robertbaird5016 8 месяцев назад +3

    Rec Park in Healdsburg (CA wine country) reportedly opened in 1923 (according to Press-Democrat story). Has been home of Prune Packers summer league team.

    • @bp2608
      @bp2608 7 месяцев назад

      The Press Democrat newspaper source of 1923 would definitely be reliable. Love the wooden covered grandstand behind home plate, I wonder if it is original though of course renovated over the decades.

  • @tgurlamber5874
    @tgurlamber5874 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hey!!! The old BBall stadiums the best.

  • @trippwilson5421
    @trippwilson5421 7 месяцев назад

    You forgot Stan Galle Field in Mobile, AL on the campus of Spring Hill College. The oldest active collegiate baseball field in the county dating back to 1889

  • @BK_718
    @BK_718 8 месяцев назад +1

    I thought the high wall in Durham was in LF ? 🤔

  • @JakeAdams-cc4sg
    @JakeAdams-cc4sg 8 месяцев назад +1

    Goodall Park - Sanford, Maine 1915

  • @bignick1101
    @bignick1101 8 месяцев назад +1

    What about Grayson Stadium in Savannah, built in 1926; currently hosts the Savannah Bananas

    • @jonhowe2960
      @jonhowe2960 7 месяцев назад

      The second pic used in the intro here is actually Grayson, one of the few left that Ruth and Aaron appeared in. I grew up in that ballpark with the Savannah Braves in the 70's.

  • @jimholochwost7925
    @jimholochwost7925 8 месяцев назад +1

    Simmons Field.. Kenosha Wisconsin...1920.. Factory teams.... All American Girls Baseball.... Minor League A ball....Summer Collegiate leagues

  • @vermontmike9800
    @vermontmike9800 8 месяцев назад +1

    #18 should be Wahconah Park in Pittsfield, Mass.

  • @ZaKRo-bx7lp
    @ZaKRo-bx7lp 8 месяцев назад +5

    old yankee stadium should have been here 😭

    • @stevep8445
      @stevep8445 8 месяцев назад +2

      No. It no longer exists

    • @ZaKRo-bx7lp
      @ZaKRo-bx7lp 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@stevep8445 But it should

  • @brettashworth6659
    @brettashworth6659 7 месяцев назад +1

    I went to Fenway Park it was nice

  • @carlnash7200
    @carlnash7200 8 месяцев назад

    The oldest baseball field still in use is at Spring Hill College in Mobile Al

  • @ronaldmangum6045
    @ronaldmangum6045 4 месяца назад

    Honorable Mention.......Engle Stadium in Chattanooga, Tennessee

  • @MichaelMckinnon-q6e
    @MichaelMckinnon-q6e 8 месяцев назад

    Cricket was a sport that led to the creation of baseball

  • @edwardhuster8466
    @edwardhuster8466 8 месяцев назад +1

    Federal lasted 2 years as a majorvleague and was a minor league 1913. So all together 3 years.

    • @baseballinternational174
      @baseballinternational174  8 месяцев назад

      Yeah someone pointed that out already. I had it mixed up with the Union Association. Thanks for watching

  • @beaverswag6545
    @beaverswag6545 8 месяцев назад +1

    BEAVS MENTIONED RAAAAAAAAH

  • @stephenrknutson
    @stephenrknutson 8 месяцев назад

    You forgot Wahconah park Pittsfield Ma it’s the oldest park and Greensboro NC war memorial is second oldest.

  • @anonnumber1
    @anonnumber1 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wahconah Park?

  • @davidstecchi9501
    @davidstecchi9501 8 месяцев назад

    Fenway Park as also the home for Boston College football

  • @hateusernames2
    @hateusernames2 8 месяцев назад +2

    the many stadiums in the world

  • @henrylovoy
    @henrylovoy 7 месяцев назад

    Rickwood Field Birmingham Alabama 1910

  • @jaywalkallstar
    @jaywalkallstar 7 месяцев назад

    Bosse Field is pronounced Bossy. I’m from the Evansville area.

  • @mikes805
    @mikes805 8 месяцев назад +1

    Columbia university, not University of Columbia

  • @sgnmath1234
    @sgnmath1234 7 месяцев назад

    University of Columbia in NYC ???????
    Are you kidding me calling it that ???

  • @aresee8208
    @aresee8208 8 месяцев назад

    It's not University of Columbia, it's Columbia University. In the United States, the names of colleges and universities cannot be reversed. Same with University of Vermont - not Vermont University. Oh, and it is pronounced Doo-boys County. (Just trying to help.)

  • @pawglover37
    @pawglover37 8 месяцев назад +2

    thank you for this. unfortunately the only one I have visited was wrigley where I caught 3 games of a homestand six years ago. being a old national league guy and growing up watching harry caray call games on wgn it brought back many memories. I got there early enough to walk up behind the screen at home plate. I was moved to tears.funny enough there was a couple from dallas who were also attending their first game at wrigley. I wonder what people thought when they saw two grown men in their forties with tears streaming down their faces. I sat a couple rows from the bartman seat the first game and I got to watch the last game from the left field bleachers. definitely an a plus bucket list event. #takemeouttotheballgame #CUBSWINCUBSWIN

  • @ldfreitas9437
    @ldfreitas9437 7 месяцев назад

    Where is Washington Park in Santa Clara, California? Built in the 1930s, for Santa Clara High School, Santa Clara University also used it until 1963, and local American Legion ball.

  • @bp2608
    @bp2608 7 месяцев назад

    Great video. I also suggest Recreation Park, Healdsburg, California. Built in the 1910s. Home of town team/semi pro teams off and on since 1921. Prune Packers, summer collegiate league, and high school and youth teams are current tenants. Along with high school football (dual purpose.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healdsburg_Prune_Packers

  • @TMG595
    @TMG595 8 месяцев назад

    Wahconah Park (Opened in 1892) Pittsfield, MA en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahconah_Park
    Pittsfield Electrics (Eastern Association) 1913-14
    Pittsfield Hillies (Eastern League) 1919-30
    Pittsfield Electrics (Canadian-American League) 1941-48
    Pittsfield Indians (Canadian-American League) 1949-50
    Pittsfield Phillies (Canadian-American League) 1951
    Pittsfield Red Sox (Eastern League) 1965-69
    Pittsfield Senators (Eastern League) 1970-71
    Pittsfield Rangers (Eastern League) 1972-75
    Berkshire Brewers (Eastern League) 1976
    Pittsfield Cubs (Eastern League) 1985-88
    Pittsfield Mets (NYPL) 1989-2000
    Pittsfield Astros (NYPL) 2001
    Berkshire Black Bears (Northeast League) 2002-2003
    Pittsfield Dukes (NECBL) 2005-2008
    Pittsfield American Defenders (NECBL) 2008-2009
    Pittsfield Colonials (Can-Am League) 2010-2011
    Pittsfield Suns (FCBL) 2012-present