Fun fact: the many cymbals around Maria is actually “mandorla”s, the old version of halos in Christianity. Nowadays we use the modern halo that’s a glowing cylindrical ring of light (material or not), this design is actually only about a decade old and was so groundbreaking that it almost completely whipped out the old design from mainstream knowledge.
@@dewo277e9 It really isn't. Do me a favor, google YHVH, skip the one shin megami tensei related result. YHVH is the name God gave out in Exodus 3:13-14 assuming you go right from hebrew to english consonants.
@@Eepy-Rainbow it seems that you have not understood me, I mean that YHWH of Shin Megami Tensei has nothing to do with Mary of Shin Megami Tensei or any other religion This YHWH is a completely separate entity and should not be compared with the "canonical" counterpart of the Bible, if it has such a relationship then Mary will express it Besides, the god of Catholics is called Jehovah
@@dewo277e9 The name Jehovah is not founded in Hebrew Scripture. It is Yahweh. Rabbis would put Adonai inside the name YHWH to let the other guy know to say Adonai. Jehovah came from when priests thought that rabbis really meant this as a name.
Number13teen Welcome to SMT! Shin Megami Tensei is all about confronting religion. You fight Maria, but you can also fight Shiva, Thor, Ashura, and even Actual Christian God
Get used to it. This is a franchise more than willing to character assassinate everyone in Christianity-right before having you *literally* assassinate them.
I've fought a lot of demons in the entire series but personally, I don't find any enjoyment in punching the Virgin Mary in the face. I mean, she's not even hostile to you! She just wants to test your skill, is all.
I was just thinking that. It's really easy for me to want to beat up YHVH, because no matter what iteration of him you encounter, he's kind of a prick. The Virgin Mary didn't do anything to harm anyone.
well, all the protagonists of the main saga: 1,2,3, strange journey, 4/4 apocalypse are known as messiah so ... technically ... an incarnation of our lord Jesus Christ is fighting with the virgin Mary (?
Hmm. . . I don't know if this is true but Maria and Mary are the same person and I don't know if this is what its alluding to but when Maria says "If you are human what am I?" This could be referring to the fact that in most denominations of Christianity Maria or Mary is worshiped as something higher while in others she seen as a normal person and on the same level as the disciples "Am I The Saint Maria or am I the Virgin Mother Mary?" Just some food for thought (I guess?)
María is her spanish name and Mary her inglish name and about her bíblical canon she is a mare human being who got blessed by God to give birth to the messiah by a miracle of the Holy spirit she never would want People to worship her If she was alive in our times because she is human like us thats why she ask those questions in this game she isnt a god shes a humble worshiper of the true and only God she even states shes a sinner in her worship in the bible something the catholic view point says she never sinned that never makes sense because in the bible canon it is said everyone is in need of saving from the messiah including her Jesús died so everyone could be forgiven and cleansed from their sins as he resurected and returned to his celestial kingdom and left the Holy spirit to those that believe in him and are devoted to him woops bible class over
Hey man when does all this stuff happen? I'm currently gathering all the cosmic eggs and I still need to kill mem aleph but will this happen after I get the eggs? I'm doing the womb but floors 4 5 and 6 are still locked
If you kill Mem Aleph, the dungeon is LOCKED and you're locked in the normal ending. Finish the dungeon first and then kill Mem Aleph, you then have the option to do the normal ending or the additional extra stuff. After each floor boss kill you can go lower with the elevator near the boss.
BuffMaister I was dumb dude. I didnt fully explore the 3rd dungeon. I just assumed with alex taking the fruit and the elevators taking me to the floor. I will eventually get a gate search that will unlock the path. But at least now I can just avoid enemies on the 4th floor lol with enemy banish lol
Goldar Rag oh no it not my first I just never played this shin Megami one before I played all the others this is the only one I haven't played with shin Megami nocturnal the first shin Megami tensei ever played was the fourth installment.
Sleeping Forest Strange Journey is a bit odd it's more like SMT 1 and 2 in the sense that it is in 1st Person and uses different design choices in the dungeons.
Fun fact: the many cymbals around Maria is actually “mandorla”s, the old version of halos in Christianity. Nowadays we use the modern halo that’s a glowing cylindrical ring of light (material or not), this design is actually only about a decade old and was so groundbreaking that it almost completely whipped out the old design from mainstream knowledge.
Informative
Mandorla is the thing behind all her body, like an eye shaped throne or something.
The only demons that i don't feel like to fight...
Seriously i just feel guility.
I get it. Record Scratch? No problem. The archangels? No problem. Maria? No, this one I wish I didn't have to.
Something about fighting Mary feels really....wrong...
I mean we outright fight 'The Father' in 2 and 4:A
@@Eepy-Rainbow
YHWH is not really "the father", he is a separate entity from that concept
@@dewo277e9 It really isn't. Do me a favor, google YHVH, skip the one shin megami tensei related result. YHVH is the name God gave out in Exodus 3:13-14 assuming you go right from hebrew to english consonants.
@@Eepy-Rainbow
it seems that you have not understood me, I mean that YHWH of Shin Megami Tensei has nothing to do with Mary of Shin Megami Tensei or any other religion This YHWH is a completely separate entity and should not be compared with the "canonical" counterpart of the Bible, if it has such a relationship then Mary will express it Besides, the god of Catholics is called Jehovah
@@dewo277e9 The name Jehovah is not founded in Hebrew Scripture. It is Yahweh. Rabbis would put Adonai inside the name YHWH to let the other guy know to say Adonai. Jehovah came from when priests thought that rabbis really meant this as a name.
The one demon even Doomguy would probably hesitate to fight... probably.
Edit: Actually not s demon but well.... you know.
She’s a directly from the collective unconscious
Good to see kaneko could create at least one more demon for this amazing game.
it's from smt nine
She's in the new Persona 5 Royal at least, and damn does her 3D model look awesome
@@lowhp_comic and now shes in smt 5
@@TorraShinjiro17smt v’s 3d model of her goes hard af
>megami
catholics on suicide watch
As a catholic myself i must say thats the race she fits in the most. Also i love the megami race in general so im glad!
@@pineapplepearjuice6717 Definitely.
Maybe Famed wouldn't be bad but it'd be kinda weird considering it mostly consists of warriors.
"If it looks like a Megami and quacks like a Megami, then it's a Megami."
-CHAD ATLUS
@@pineapplepearjuice6717 I get that, but it kinda flies in the face of "You shall have no other gods before Me."
She would make an excellent figure
Wow so we can fight Jesus’ mother in this game?
Number13teen Welcome to SMT!
Shin Megami Tensei is all about confronting religion. You fight Maria, but you can also fight Shiva, Thor, Ashura, and even Actual Christian God
I mean I know all that, but they usually keep away from Jesus related characters. He's never been in any of the games.
Well we've already fought his dad multiple times so
Number13teen you fight god in one of the games or two games to be exact
ledah145 yeah, in apocalypse
I feel uncomfortable.
Get used to it. This is a franchise more than willing to character assassinate everyone in Christianity-right before having you *literally* assassinate them.
I've fought a lot of demons in the entire series but personally, I don't find any enjoyment in punching the Virgin Mary in the face. I mean, she's not even hostile to you! She just wants to test your skill, is all.
I was just thinking that. It's really easy for me to want to beat up YHVH, because no matter what iteration of him you encounter, he's kind of a prick. The Virgin Mary didn't do anything to harm anyone.
It's disgusting is what it is. 👎🏻 Glad I looked up what these games have you doing before falling for the sale, what a disgrace.
@Smash 123 ow the edge
@@saintd_iiAnd you’re not? 🤡 Definitely gonna punch her now than ever 😂
@@gregorywiederecht Had SMT portrayed God *accurately* instead of making him a one-dimensional strawman, you'd have similar thoughts about the guy.
Artificial Goddess in Nine
Where is your son during all this shit, Maria?
well, all the protagonists
of the main saga: 1,2,3, strange journey, 4/4 apocalypse are known as messiah so ... technically ... an incarnation of our lord Jesus Christ is fighting with the virgin Mary (?
In Persona,he is presumely on Persona 3 protagonist's side as his ultimate persona
Agony in the original Devil Summoner.
@@joshuaarceo9938Maria: who is this emo child and why is he calling me "mummy"?
Probably being turned into a door.
What would my grandma think about this
Wow amazing
Hmm. . . I don't know if this is true but Maria and Mary are the same person and I don't know if this is what its alluding to but when Maria says "If you are human what am I?" This could be referring to the fact that in most denominations of Christianity Maria or Mary is worshiped as something higher while in others she seen as a normal person and on the same level as the disciples
"Am I The Saint Maria or am I the Virgin Mother Mary?"
Just some food for thought (I guess?)
It's actually a reference to SMT NINE, the first game where she appeared. She asks a similar question during the game.
@@NIHIL_EGO For real now I feel stupid lol
María is her spanish name and Mary her inglish name and about her bíblical canon she is a mare human being who got blessed by God to give birth to the messiah by a miracle of the Holy spirit she never would want People to worship her If she was alive in our times because she is human like us thats why she ask those questions in this game she isnt a god shes a humble worshiper of the true and only God she even states shes a sinner in her worship in the bible something the catholic view point says she never sinned that never makes sense because in the bible canon it is said everyone is in need of saving from the messiah including her Jesús died so everyone could be forgiven and cleansed from their sins as he resurected and returned to his celestial kingdom and left the Holy spirit to those that believe in him and are devoted to him woops bible class over
Hey man when does all this stuff happen? I'm currently gathering all the cosmic eggs and I still need to kill mem aleph but will this happen after I get the eggs? I'm doing the womb but floors 4 5 and 6 are still locked
If you kill Mem Aleph, the dungeon is LOCKED and you're locked in the normal ending. Finish the dungeon first and then kill Mem Aleph, you then have the option to do the normal ending or the additional extra stuff. After each floor boss kill you can go lower with the elevator near the boss.
BuffMaister I was dumb dude. I didnt fully explore the 3rd dungeon. I just assumed with alex taking the fruit and the elevators taking me to the floor. I will eventually get a gate search that will unlock the path. But at least now I can just avoid enemies on the 4th floor lol with enemy banish lol
Surt With Bufudyne?
How did you level up so fast I thought the game just came out 2 days ago.
Sleeping Forest He got a “Review Copy"
(A.K.A download the CIA that was filtred months before the official release)
Goldar Rag oh think you but God I can't wait to get my hands on this game.
Sleeping Forest Is this your first SMT/Persona game? If so, I can give you some tips.
Goldar Rag oh no it not my first I just never played this shin Megami one before I played all the others this is the only one I haven't played with shin Megami nocturnal the first shin Megami tensei ever played was the fourth installment.
Sleeping Forest Strange Journey is a bit odd it's more like SMT 1 and 2 in the sense that it is in 1st Person and uses different design choices in the dungeons.
yo man Im stuck after killing maria how do I get fruit #3 help me plz
Continue and Alex will pop up with the final boss.
Thank you i was lost on what to do after beating maria