Dram V Tip Spray Gun, Iwata Kiwami4 WBX WB Split Tip Type, Taiwanese Quality
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Taking a look at the Dram Spray Gun, a Taiwanese gun of very good quality, obviously only time will tell, I hope you enjoy the video, cheers everyone, thanks for watching 👍
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I’m always intrigued by the split tips. Walcom may have invented it I’m not sure but Avalon has like 10 of them seems like, and now this 100 USD split tip what times we live in.
Quality is the person and the materials they use. Nice as always.
Hi Mate, I think Walcom came later with their star type tip, I'm sure Anest Iwata were first, and, as far as I know, they still hold the patent although the Chinese and Taiwanese seem not to worry about that, I think it's more a case of can't be enforced.
These are good guns, and at under 100 bucks a bargain, I was worried that after a video came out that the price would go up, maybe I'm flattering myself 😂, cheers mate, appreciate it 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I saw one painter ruin the bellaria price so I get that. Iwata even makes a siphon fed split tip WS200. I’m not sure Pete I know a friend had a strange tip walcom geo92 but perhaps it wasn’t so tulip in appearance. As always we appreciate your continued dedication to reviewing so many models.
@kr2513 I think the Walcom has 6 or 7 splits on the outside of the tip, so they don't penetrate the centre of the tip to the needle, the Iwatas as you know do.
I may be completely wrong, but I thought that's how it goes 🤔
Good to hear you like the videos, mate. I really enjoy making them, cheers 👍
THANKS FOR THE NEW VIDEO MATE❤
Hi Lesli, you're welcome, mate 👍
Nice finish my friend, the guns should last a reasonable amount of time. As you mentioned, value for money, for $100 bucks, if it lasts even five years with a moderate amount of use, should be worth it. Cheers
Hi Bryan, I think at this price point, it really is worth taking the chance 😀, Have you received your Sagola yet ?
Cheers mate 👍
No Sir, not yet. I ordered two different, a 4100 pressure pot gun, and the 4600, one of them is on back order. Hope they will be in soon
Hi Pete, a very enjoyable video mate as you know I love your vids so please keep making them👌🙏once again you have another great gun in your hands which again has made me want to get one😁I've just decided which gun to get next then you go and throw this into the mix🤔🤪😂
The finish from the Dram is spot on mate even the basecoat went on as good as most guns and I could tell that the clearcoat went on with very little peel, I'll add this gun to my ever growing list of guns I want (not need🙄).
I take it you have seen that the new Multi Mix UHS clear is now available, this will be an interesting clear as it's a single visit but still giving a good build, the downside is there isn't any sample or small kits available🤦♂
Thanks again Pete👍
Hi John, This is a fairly new gun. In fact,
I don't think there are any reviews of it on RUclips, mainly because no one has heard of it 😜.
It's very good and only around 88 USD at the moment, I suspect it's out the Avalon factory in Taiwan, but I can't be sure.
Yes, I've seen the Multi Mix C4. I haven't looked into it yet as I still use different clears up.
A one stage clear should make it easier to use, there's a few clears like that but I haven't used any of them yet, are you getting some ?
Cheers mate 👍
Will be looking forward to you testing out the Dram as well.
Hi Pete, yeah I had a feeling it was new to the market even though it's made in Taiwan it does look good quality but I think my Fuji was made there as well so they seem to turn out good guns but not as good ad Japan seems to👍
The MMC4 does seem to be good clear but I'm wondering how well it will cure without a bake cycle, I'm hoping to try it mate but it's a bit pricy if it's not suitable for the likes of us, I did ask Jordan if it would be ok but as usual he didn't reply to my comment on his group🙄🤦♂👍
@JohnWD40TC02 Hi John, Yes, the Fuji is made in Taiwan, and that's also well made, so hopefully, this Dram will last a while 😀
It's not good form to launch a product and not answer questions, especially as through your Instagram account, you publicise the product.
It will be fine to air dry. It will probably take longer, but I can't see why it wouldn't cure. Cheers, John 👍
Pete good video thanks for sharing that information don't you ever upload any videos with you doing the preparation work on car parts and motorcycles stuff 😊
Hi Andy, there is some from a wile ago doing the preparation buy most people don't want to see it
@@peteshobbies5383 yes well I do pete its not all about painting all the time
@ANDY-we7mr Yes, agreed mate, the finish is only ever as good as the preparation 👍
Hi There. Just found this video leading on from the R500/A610 comparison. Love the detail you go into, great video. Just bought one based on what I've seen here. Just hobby use so can't spend money on kiwami, which i would love. Many thanks for your efforts.
As a side note, I've been using a R500 which i found awful! Your video explaining the real CFM of this gun i think explains it. Bigger compressor output purchased now.
Hi Dominic, Good to hear you found the video. This is a pretty new gun, so there's not much about it, but I think you'll find it much better than the R500.
The R500 needs around 2.5 bar, so 36psi for a clear coat, and at that, it's up around 8 to 9 cfm, much more than is advertised. You can normally get reasonable results with them, but if your compressor is struggling, you may find the pressure drops, which will cause loads of problems, that's where diaphragm regulators come into their own.
Good to hear you found us anyway, I'm a bit of an eccentric but takes all sorts to make a world, right 😂 , cheers mate 👍
Haha, it certainly does. You need to make a video on how you made the 36 hour day! How do you fit it all in. Thanks again 👍
@0012dominic Certainly seems like that sometimes 😂, cheers mate 👍
You're making me happy this weekend, Pete! 😂 I didn't expect you to review it so quickly, but I am glad you did. I haven't gotten a chance to play with it yet, but it appears it definitely was a good buy.
The overspray did seem a bit more than say a LPH400, but nothing too excessive compared to a conventional tip gun spraying a HS clear. Metallic basecoat looked to lay nice with the extra atomization without you having to do a drop coat. At least I don't think I saw you do one. That's great. When you heat up the Upol, does the viscosity come down to a medium solids level? Just curious for comparison as that's what I use sometimes. I have both MS & HS in Upol to play with.. I'll be testing both soon.
Keep up the great videos & reviews!
Hi Boss, I've hardly ever used any MS clears, so I'm not sure if the heated Upol would be equal 🤔.
It's certainly a good gun, obviously I'm not sure on longevity but I'm not expecting any problems, I go this out quickly as I've had many messages on Instagram asking about it, to be honest, it's a bit af a find 😀
Let us know how you get on with your when you get a chance 👍
Thank you Pete, Never heard of them, seems OK. Homage to a Anest Iwata. Stick to the guns that I know. Hmmm. food for thought.
Hi Mate, I hadn't heard of them either, but I was a little intrigued , I think they come out of the Avalon factory in Taiwan but I'm not sure, they certainly perform really well and are responsibly priced, thanks mate 👍
Good review, mate!
Hi Benjamin, Thanks mate, hadn't heard of these, but I thought I would give it a try. I'm glad I did as they perform really well, cheers mate, appreciate it 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I think it performs ok, it might be slightly inferior comparing to the Iwata? And appreciate for your hard work, mate!
Yes, it's probably not as good as the WBX, but it's not far off it, and it looks well made. Time will tell 👍
Thank for another great video.
One question I have…after watching your video on regulators, I picked up the Meji like the one you are using. I noticed that you don’t lock it down after you adjust it. Since I’m new to these, is it not necessary or are you just that good at not screwing it up?
Thanks bud. Always enjoy
Hi Scott, they are lovely little regulators, aren't they 😀
I always used to lock it, but I've since found it doesn't move anyway, so it isn't needed, I guess if your hand or arm is often coming in contact with the adjuster then it's worth locking it, but certainly for me the pressure doesn't change, cheers mate 👍
Thanks, Pete!
Hi Mate, Your most welcome 👍
Hi Pete, sorry to bother you again. I've now gotten this Dram and am expecting the Ntools 4000 shortly. I'm planning on using one for Clear and one for base. Am I better using this Dram on the base as it's a bit slower? Thanks, and thanks again for all the work put into these videos.
Hi mate, that's probably the way round I would do it, the Dram will handle more complex colours better than the 4000B and the 4000B is a good clear gun
That's super. Really appreciate all your advise 🙏
@0012dominic Your welcome mate 👍
Amigo Petes esta pistola dram estara hecha por Avalon? Ya que el vaso que incluye esta marcado Avalon en la parte de arriba por eso mi duda?
Hi buddy, I think it may be, but I can't be sure. As you say, the cup is marked Avalon, but there's nothing on the gun
Nitro thinner?
I save that one after cleaning for cleaning putty tools. 😁 it doesn’t matter if it’s full of paint crystals and some dissolved clear.
Hi mate, I never used to save any but it certainly works and saves money 😁, cheers buddy 👍
Petes probé la pistola dram con la boquilla de la wider 4l y lo que ví fue que el abanico es en v y con la boquilla original de la dram es como en u , otra cosa que ví fue que la boquilla de la dram puesta en la wider 4l sobre sale mucho la punta y con su boquilla original queda más al ras
Hi mate, I haven't tried swapping nozzles over in the different guns yet, but I will get around to it
Amigo petes,soy profesional y utilizo la iwata series 2 para barniz y para base adquirí por curiosidad una aeropro a610 y quedé sorprendido,podrías decirme si hay más imitaciones tipo iwata de punta dividida a parte de esta Dram y de las porphis? Las porphis las veo muy caras y dificil encontrar repuestos en España,espero respuesta,saludos.
Y otra pregunta,cuál es la pistola china que más te ha sorprendido para barniz,la que te ha dejado mejor acabado efecto espejo,gracias de nuevo.
Hola amigo, tienes las pistolas Avalon, aunque también son caras. La Porphis PRD 717 es muy buena, sin duda vale la pena.
La Ntools 4000B es una buena pistola, y barata, además es rápida lo que será mejor en el verano español.
Hi Pete are these split tip guns ok for 2k direct gloss or would using a conventional gun suit it better ? Cheers
Hi Andrew, They would work OK but not best suited to direct gloss, a conventional 1.3 or preferably 1.4 flow more material which is normally beneficial for direct gloss.
Certainly, I wouldn't reach for a split tip given the choice , but you could use it if needed. I hope that helps 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I used my Dram for 2k Black gloss paint and I got quite a lot of orange peel. I put a bit more on to help it flow out but I just got a run . I warmed the paint and added 10% reducer but its a lot different compared to base coat and clear which I paint outside and get reasonable results . 2K Seems quite a lot thicker .You make it look easy but there is a lot to it ..Thanks Pete keep them coming
@andrewodonoghue8666 Yeah, that's the reason I wouldn't recommend them for direct gloss. They just don't flow enough, as you say, direct gloss is normally thicker, hence a 1.4 coupled to a higher flowing gun will help you get enough material on without holding the gun back too much.
It's all a learning curve, mate, and we are all still learning. Cheers, buddy 👍
Have you noticed any difference between the Iwata tulips spit tips like the lph400 lvx that has 4 cuts outs in the tip as opposed to the 3 cut out like in the Kawami 3 ?
HI mate, someone asked exactly the same thing in the comments. Normally, the 3 splits run faster, which makes sense as the split tips definitely slow guns down. It's why I know some put a 3 split in their LPH400 to speed it up. Also, a 4 split can often be used at lower pressures, not always. The WS400, for example, is 4 split tip but runs at 29 psi 👍
I pqinted a bike with clear intercoat and epoxy color pigment it took like 8 coats and i got mottling
Hi mate, You can get that if your overlapping isn't correct, Candy can be difficult to get right so it just takes practice.
Keep the overlapping around 75% , distance and speed the same all the time, that should do it 👍
Yea it was on bicycle frame it would been easier if it was on more flat surface that i could also work the gun around bit it was a good learning experience i guess i gotta correct few things .im going to get regular paint next time and hopefuly it want mottle
@damensutherland7081 Yeah, candy, by its very nature, obviously relies on even coats. The more you put over one area, the darker it gets in that area, which obviously shows afterwards.
You will get there. It just takes time and practice , cheers, mate 👍
Jajaja nada de eso amigo 😂 Petes si todos pudiéramos comprar las mismas armas que tú tenlo por seguro que las compraríamos o al menos yo si jejeje saludos
Hi mate, I just can't help myself 🙄 😂 , cheers mate 👍
what is a 2k thinner.....?
Hi Mate, If just the name many people in the UK use to describe virgin thinners, so not cleaning thinners