I feel this 'Game of Creative Directors' is like our superbowl. We know they are the most talented people around and we know that if they hit the mark, they will create a revolution. Seeing someone use a aesthetic with which they have knocked it out of the park, can be dissapointing. But i do feel we are all to negative. I'm kind of hyped to see what he will do with valentino! Oh also, the whole thing of being able to thrift the looks and be super stylish without any money is the best for a brand to do! You thrift stuff and when you collected some money you will buy a piece by that designer because your whole style and closet is filled with it. Also fashion being super elitist I feel isn't cool in a time where on social media we bombard people with a certain lifestyle. everybody should be able to enjoy it in one way or another. Keep these up man!
It's an achievement enough to come up with (and be able to physically create) a new garment or other piece of art, let alone to come up with your own entire style of pieces. But that's not enough, these designers have to be ingenious enough to create entire styles unique to each company they ever work for. these are almost impossibly high standards. It follows to me that a fashion house's design style is going to be mostly defined by the designers who design for them, so they're going to get that designer's style with perhaps a few callbacks to the company's previous designers just out of respect. If they didn't want the direction the designer takes the brand, they should have hired a different one rather than expecting him to morph into a new mind.
That this look can be copied by shopping in charity shops (or on fleamarkets, Vinted etc) is a positive for me. No matter how much I loved Michele's Gucci (and now his Valentino!) I could never afford to buy any of the actual pieces. I love the thought of your friends copying complete Gucci runway looks with charity shop items, and getting lots of compliments for it. I'd really like to see the results. I'm currently trying to recreate the general vibe on the cheap, but I think I'll try full runway looks as well, that's a great idea. Takes a lot if dedication though. 😅
Toshiba Yamamoto is a masterful cutter… he turns tailoring completely on its head & his pattern making is like sculpture! I agree Hedi Slimane is really just a stylist there is never a cut that anyone wonders how on earth it is put together… so yes Yamamoto is a genius innovator.
Balenciaga's footwear team are crushing it!!! Considering the footwear sells more than the clothes, they deserve their props. Like you said, they at least try to innovate new silhouettes each season. The footwear has been fantastic recently. I am saving up for the reptile sneaker and stomper boots.
Ayo talkin abt the streams finna be short, second stream damn near 4 hours 😭 Also for foot wear they aren’t luxury but hubane be having some zany ass designs for there mules and boots
For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
Those strappy “v” sling back shoes can definitely be groovied up… more Theresa Mayish in this collection but they could be made a whole lot more interesting 🤔
Sorry Ayo, if you take Dior, Chloe, Sonia Rykiel, or even Saint Laurent in the 70's, they were all maximalist. The decade was maximalist. I'm an architect and even in architecture school, they told us that the 70's is a pot pourrie decade in terme of design. They called it international style because it was a mix off everything without a distinctive DNA. So Michele can do the exact same collection (just changing the logo) at dior , Chloe and you could find the references in these brand archives from the 70's. It doesn't mean it's the DNA of thd brand. As YSL DNA is today this sexy melancholic parisian borgeoise that Mr Saint laurent only started to do in the mid 80's, Valentino Brand DNA was consolided in the 80's with the clean lines, the red, the bourgeoise and jolie madame aesthetic. He could reference the 70's and follow in the same time the DNA of the Brand. He is a designer for god sake!!
I definitely agree with you to an extent which I why I made the point about what Ludovic De Saint Sernin did at Ann Demeulemeester. He curated the Ann Demeulemeester archives to fit perfectly within his aesthetic.
@@FashionRoadman Also Ayo, please check all the dresses that Jackie Onassis ( ex Kennedy) wore in the mid 70's, it was very clean, no prints, a lot of oversize for the evening and body con for the day. The maximalist Valentino, it's from the end of the 60's and the mid 70's , exactly the flower power psychedilic era. So my question is , is it Valentino design DNA or the ERA design DNA. It's like the minimalism in the 90's. All the brands was minimalist, even Chanel ( starting to 1996). So if tomorrorw the next designer at chanel give us a Khaite or the Row collection with one of the 90's collection as reference is he respect the brand DNA? Karl Lagerfeld wa ms heavily criticized for this minimalist Chanel. For me, qi don't care of Michele at Valentino. He could really produce fantastic collections with his theatrical sense but with as a core guideline, the strong Brand DNA of Valentino. The danger with what he do right know, is that his style is so strong, so distinctive and so far of what people, for the last 40 years, identify Valentino that, the day he will quit the brand, because he will one day, the customer and his successor will not know what is valentino Aesthetic. It's the issue with gucci. The brand success fluctuate too much with the creative designer. If you compare with brands like Hermes and Vuitton, they can just work without a designer and they will still keep thier success.
Can someone please explain to me why Riccardo Tisci was bad for Givenchy or Burberry? I kind of like the style, especially the first Givenchy collections he made and it was the first designer that I was interested more that the whole brand. I really enjoyed his aesthetical view not just in clothes but overall. And I somehow feel stupid now because everyone says he was terrible for Givenchy. Could someone pinpoint some major horrible moments that I could do my research on this
I feel that the executive and owners of these Haute Couture houses are trying w make them into streetwear brands and it doesn’t work whatsoever!!!! That’s the problem And when Alessandro gets done with Valentino, it’s gonna be another Gucci
At the end of the day , Alessandro referenced the past looks of Valentino but it’s still his own personal style and dna 🧬 he had at Gucci and women want something new and refreshing!!! Alessandro is an accessories designer and he’s great at that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To say he’s a great fit for Valentino because he put out a vintage look from Valentinos past is a far stretch!! Can he cut a gown Can he do Haute Couture NO!!!! We all know he shouldn’t be there and he’s there because Kering pulled a fast one 👌 Valentino is ruined and Insaid what I said! No one wants to be honest That’s the problem why these fashion brands are suffering from the head!!
Alessandro is just stuck in 70s, he’s a designer his supposed to reinvent & “make something new” instead it’s same thing over & over🤦🏻♀️ I agree with some comments about Valentino being more about the 60s & 80s chic lady esthetic. Valentino in my opinion is about evening & ball gowns
My Dear ! That's why it's called Vintage clothes, he just copied and pasted it. That's why certain brands are having problems, what's the idea of buying something new with a reinterpretation of vintage, if we have the luxury market for altentic pieces?
u said rick owens copies other sneaker designs but you’d be surprised to know balenciaga literally appropriated a morrocan shoe called babouche and they also copied indian shoes. as you would say “google is free” lol
Everyone has copied designs, I even called Balenciaga out for copying Lonsdale in the same stream so it’s not like I don’t know they copy designs. The wider point was that across the board Balenciaga is more innovative with footwear than Rick Owens
I feel this 'Game of Creative Directors' is like our superbowl. We know they are the most talented people around and we know that if they hit the mark, they will create a revolution. Seeing someone use a aesthetic with which they have knocked it out of the park, can be dissapointing. But i do feel we are all to negative. I'm kind of hyped to see what he will do with valentino! Oh also, the whole thing of being able to thrift the looks and be super stylish without any money is the best for a brand to do! You thrift stuff and when you collected some money you will buy a piece by that designer because your whole style and closet is filled with it. Also fashion being super elitist I feel isn't cool in a time where on social media we bombard people with a certain lifestyle. everybody should be able to enjoy it in one way or another. Keep these up man!
It's an achievement enough to come up with (and be able to physically create) a new garment or other piece of art, let alone to come up with your own entire style of pieces. But that's not enough, these designers have to be ingenious enough to create entire styles unique to each company they ever work for. these are almost impossibly high standards. It follows to me that a fashion house's design style is going to be mostly defined by the designers who design for them, so they're going to get that designer's style with perhaps a few callbacks to the company's previous designers just out of respect. If they didn't want the direction the designer takes the brand, they should have hired a different one rather than expecting him to morph into a new mind.
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Luv the streams. The long ones are like a lullaby for me sometimes lol! I’m in LA so catch the playbacks mostly. Hey leave Cali girls alone!
That this look can be copied by shopping in charity shops (or on fleamarkets, Vinted etc) is a positive for me. No matter how much I loved Michele's Gucci (and now his Valentino!) I could never afford to buy any of the actual pieces. I love the thought of your friends copying complete Gucci runway looks with charity shop items, and getting lots of compliments for it. I'd really like to see the results. I'm currently trying to recreate the general vibe on the cheap, but I think I'll try full runway looks as well, that's a great idea. Takes a lot if dedication though. 😅
Toshiba Yamamoto is a masterful cutter… he turns tailoring completely on its head & his pattern making is like sculpture! I agree Hedi Slimane is really just a stylist there is never a cut that anyone wonders how on earth it is put together… so yes Yamamoto is a genius innovator.
Hate that autocorrect 😵💫 Toshiba Yamamoto 🥴🤦🏻♀️
Balenciaga's footwear team are crushing it!!! Considering the footwear sells more than the clothes, they deserve their props. Like you said, they at least try to innovate new silhouettes each season. The footwear has been fantastic recently. I am saving up for the reptile sneaker and stomper boots.
Love your work, ayo. I’m also a fan of the long streams. ❤
Is'nt that the whole point that Valentino get the Michele treatment. It's kind of his signature
Can we make a special live RUclips meetup for Dries this Saturday? I think it is his last collection:(
Ayo I need some Walter Van Beirendonck coverage for my health & well being. Bless us up
I gatchu
Ayo talkin abt the streams finna be short, second stream damn near 4 hours 😭
Also for foot wear they aren’t luxury but hubane be having some zany ass designs for there mules and boots
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For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
Yes please I’m 6’1 and it’s teetering on high waters with certain brands
All dat kislux bags sssssoooooooo gorgeous
Those strappy “v” sling back shoes can definitely be groovied up… more Theresa Mayish in this collection but they could be made a whole lot more interesting 🤔
How do you feel about undercovers newest collection is one of my favorites
Best streams ever
When a video about Pitti Immagine? :D
Sorry Ayo, if you take Dior, Chloe, Sonia Rykiel, or even Saint Laurent in the 70's, they were all maximalist. The decade was maximalist. I'm an architect and even in architecture school, they told us that the 70's is a pot pourrie decade in terme of design. They called it international style because it was a mix off everything without a distinctive DNA. So Michele can do the exact same collection (just changing the logo) at dior , Chloe and you could find the references in these brand archives from the 70's. It doesn't mean it's the DNA of thd brand. As YSL DNA is today this sexy melancholic parisian borgeoise that Mr Saint laurent only started to do in the mid 80's, Valentino Brand DNA was consolided in the 80's with the clean lines, the red, the bourgeoise and jolie madame aesthetic. He could reference the 70's and follow in the same time the DNA of the Brand. He is a designer for god sake!!
I definitely agree with you to an extent which I why I made the point about what Ludovic De Saint Sernin did at Ann Demeulemeester. He curated the Ann Demeulemeester archives to fit perfectly within his aesthetic.
@@FashionRoadman Also Ayo, please check all the dresses that Jackie Onassis ( ex Kennedy) wore in the mid 70's, it was very clean, no prints, a lot of oversize for the evening and body con for the day. The maximalist Valentino, it's from the end of the 60's and the mid 70's , exactly the flower power psychedilic era. So my question is , is it Valentino design DNA or the ERA design DNA. It's like the minimalism in the 90's. All the brands was minimalist, even Chanel ( starting to 1996). So if tomorrorw the next designer at chanel give us a Khaite or the Row collection with one of the 90's collection as reference is he respect the brand DNA? Karl Lagerfeld wa ms heavily criticized for this minimalist Chanel. For me, qi don't care of Michele at Valentino. He could really produce fantastic collections with his theatrical sense but with as a core guideline, the strong Brand DNA of Valentino. The danger with what he do right know, is that his style is so strong, so distinctive and so far of what people, for the last 40 years, identify Valentino that, the day he will quit the brand, because he will one day, the customer and his successor will not know what is valentino Aesthetic. It's the issue with gucci. The brand success fluctuate too much with the creative designer. If you compare with brands like Hermes and Vuitton, they can just work without a designer and they will still keep thier success.
Can someone please explain to me why Riccardo Tisci was bad for Givenchy or Burberry? I kind of like the style, especially the first Givenchy collections he made and it was the first designer that I was interested more that the whole brand. I really enjoyed his aesthetical view not just in clothes but overall. And I somehow feel stupid now because everyone says he was terrible for Givenchy. Could someone pinpoint some major horrible moments that I could do my research on this
I don’t think he was terrible for Givenchy at all, he was only bad at Burberry
I feel that the executive and owners of these Haute Couture houses are trying w make them into streetwear brands and it doesn’t work whatsoever!!!!
That’s the problem
And when Alessandro gets done with Valentino, it’s gonna be another Gucci
At the end of the day , Alessandro referenced the past looks of Valentino but it’s still his own personal style and dna 🧬 he had at Gucci and women want something new and refreshing!!!
Alessandro is an accessories designer and he’s great at that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To say he’s a great fit for Valentino because he put out a vintage look from Valentinos past is a far stretch!!
Can he cut a gown
Can he do Haute Couture
NO!!!!
We all know he shouldn’t be there and he’s there because Kering pulled a fast one 👌
Valentino is ruined and Insaid what I said! No one wants to be honest
That’s the problem why these fashion brands are suffering from the head!!
Alessandro is just stuck in 70s, he’s a designer his supposed to reinvent & “make something new” instead it’s same thing over & over🤦🏻♀️
I agree with some comments about Valentino being more about the 60s & 80s chic lady esthetic. Valentino in my opinion is about evening & ball gowns
CELINE same
My Dear ! That's why it's called Vintage clothes, he just copied and pasted it. That's why certain brands are having problems, what's the idea of buying something new with a reinterpretation of vintage, if we have the luxury market for altentic pieces?
u said rick owens copies other sneaker designs but you’d be surprised to know balenciaga literally appropriated a morrocan shoe called babouche and they also copied indian shoes. as you would say “google is free” lol
Everyone has copied designs, I even called Balenciaga out for copying Lonsdale in the same stream so it’s not like I don’t know they copy designs. The wider point was that across the board Balenciaga is more innovative with footwear than Rick Owens
@@FashionRoadman agreed
Alessandro is a one trick pony
Hot take: Alessandro needs to flop in order for fashion to correct itself. We’re tired of product! Where is the invention?
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shoutout to you for your comments on hedi slimane🤍