you'll never unsee this bug with the scout in the loadout menu....
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hi :) this video is a tumor i cut off from the previous video since i felt like it didn’t fit tacked on at the end of the previous video --- so here it is. if you want a better idea of what inverse kinematics is, or why the medic breaks his arm when he loses: ruclips.net/video/5m7V9zWlYdM/видео.html
Thanks Shounic. Now I'll never unsee it.
Ah, I was expecting “Inverse Kinematics Shenanigans” to be a new short series
That you for showing us your tumor!
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very unfortunately, i had already seen all of these because i spend way too much time goofing around by zooming in and out on the loadout menu.
The pistol robot scout is not just stopping, he is concentrating.
Anyone who's been under fire from a Scout bot's pistol can attest, this focus gives them perfect accuracy.
@@MoustachioFurioso83 i made squads of 2 pistol scouts and 1 extended buff soldier when i was experimenting with writing .pop files and i was amazed at how much i had to nerf them, scout bots using pistols are truly terrifying
@@StilvurBee pistols are already pretty powerful
they're only made less good by them being rapid-fire and having random spread
he's just standing there MENACINGLY
Charging a shot
Robo-scout: *Holds a pistol*
"He's just standing there... MENACINGLY!"
I agree, the Robot Scout standing stock-still with his pistol out is easily the creepiest.
'Remember, animate every other class properly first. Nobody likes the Scout.' - Paraphrasing Dr. Lalve.
- Cave Johnson*
wouldn't it make more sense if this issue was the result of doing the scout first if anything, like say they later found out a better way of doing this and never got back to revising him, or thought "oh yeah we forgot to do this, well we'll get back to him later" but ultimately forgot about it
(to be clear, i have no idea what order they did the backpack animations to)
Of all the bugs in this game, this is almost certainly the most minor. I can almost guarantee 90% of the TF2-nity didn't know this was even a thing.
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It’s so subtle and minor that everyone just ignored it
even if you notice it you forget about it in 2 seconds
10% here. What has kept TF2 going for all this years fundamentally happened because the developers realized how important art style was to hide the limitations and aging of the game. And someone into SFM etc and modeling really notice this minor things. Yea game balance etc is far worse and gameplay bugs. Still this small details are the things that still reminds you that the game is 15 years old. That and some of the textures being low res. Most of this 'minor' problems the community can solve in a week. A WEEK.
I do not even think the TF2 plant is with us anymore. I mean we can not be to mad with the janitor if Valve care SO LITTLE about TF2. Now can we. Poor little dev plant. Survived work from home just for the janitor to be fired after all.
I'd argue that BLU scouts having the wrong pants color is even subtler
2:07 being still seems more robotic than breathing though.... so spaghetti it returns to being good again
it'd be cooler if it did the idle jiggle / vibration that its engine / motor thing causes
Ironically enough most of the robots with their secondarios actually have custom idle poses such as the Sniper with his SMG and the Spy with his sapper.
You know, I always thought that the way Scout held his pistol was off, but could never figure out why
this man literally can just go back to 2008 tf2 lol
Yeah wtf and he didn't take me with him??
um actually tf2 came out in 2008 not 2000
@@cheesepop7175 not sure if this is a joke or not, but tf2 came out in 2007 lol
@@KyleBrownIsALoser i got it in 2006. gabe said he was giving it to me first because he likes me more than all the other valve fans.
ok but how does he do that???
I noticed the pistol issue before, but not the dogtags! How interesting!
Also god I imagine inverse kinematics makes animation work so much easier haha
IT DOES. IT REALLY DOES.
I had a grudge against IK animation for the longest time, but when I started _actually using it..._
_God.... so much of my life wasted on FK..._ 😭
@@berzerkvideos655 For real, switching from FK to IK changed the trajectory of my life.
I know a lot of the realistic movement of your arms in boneworks/bonelab is due to IK bieng setup. Feels like black magic when your ingame
Working with it is great but setting it up makes you want to die
@@berzerkvideos655I don’t know how you can even make anything without ik, like even just crouching down requires you to manually line the feet back up where they should be, and even then the animation transition still moves it anyway
Everyone who watches this, including myself, are gonna be mildly upset everytime we see scout in the loadout screen.
Based profile pic
I was going to give you a like but then i saw your pfp.
I've seen you on so many comment sections that I'm not even phased when I see your profile picture
@@damsen978 I read that like a skyrim guard talking about his "arrow to the knee" lmao.
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Guys give scout a break he obviously has an itch he's trying to scratch on his right hand
I'm just hoping one day the janitor and potted plant manage to fix cosmetics not using the same lighting origin as the playermodel and beard/face cosmetics being broken whenever a class makes any facial expressions.
1:55 "Which is why the Robot Heavy's shotgun idle is very human" has the same energy as "the design is very human. very easy to use."
Yep, knew about the MvM thing for years now! There's a mod out there from like 2017 which fills in any missing animations from this copy-paste job on new animations, so everything barring the newest taunts still look 'correct' when the robots perform them as opposed to a blank animation.
First blu scout has the wrong pants unlike every other class, then he has these little animation issues, then consider that the unfinished civilian class used the scout's model, I think there's a case to be made that scout was the first class designed in TF2
the wrong pants are not good evidence of that though, remember that Scout's current textures are not the ones that where made back when they were making the base game, and Scout's current textures are the ones with the wrong pants problem.
@@catke590 I think it still could be tbh. The root cause of the pants thing is that Scout is the only class who had both the red and the blue textures in the same photoshop file, instead of being separate files like the rest of the classes. That sounds like exactly the type of thing that could happen if the Scout was created first and other classes came later.
Thanks for video, good explanation as always. I wish there were more people like you
It's not a bug, it's a feature. Scout is just scratching his hand.
I wonder, considering how janky Spy is, when a spy disguises as a scout, do the dogtags still break?
2:10 ive noticed the robot sniper also does this with his sniper rifle.
Took me way too long to realize that "the tags are broken" refers to the actual dog tags he wears around his neck sticking out, as opposed to some internal data "tags" causing him to hold the weapons wrong or something lol.
I noticed it before, but didn't think it was such a big deal.
Here's an annoying bug, if the game loads ur loadout model first it breaks facial flexes on beards, but if you start tf2, have the bristle crisis beard equipped on soldier, select him by pressing 2 on the class selection screen so the game doesn't load his model, the beard flexes will be fixed.
shounic... wake up... shounic... tf2... you have tf2 update to download. tf2 update.
i love how broken everything is when you're really looking into things but the whole big picture of tf2 is so good anyway
this guy has such interesting videos! love em!
Yeah, i noticed this from the beginning but I thought it showed like that in-game as well. Interesting!
deadass thought you were gonna say the default pistol actually technically uses the engineers lol
the longer i stay on your channel, the more i’m cursed with knowledge
They animated Scout first then realized it was a bad idea
in addition, the robot sniper is also completely motionless when standing still with their sniper rifle out, but only when not scoped in.
Scout over here stroking his gun right now. He's stroking that gun. He's about to fire from stroking his gun right now.
Holy shit that old Loadout UI hit me like a train
You can also see one of the shotgun shells on the choose your class menu when you have the soda popper equipped
shounic is basically a spaghetti code guru, it feels like he knows what's behind every single tf2 bug
Can't wait to forget this in one day
Ive always wondered this, makes sense with the previous video
Damn didn't expected a sequel
2:12
He's just standing there! MENACINGLY!!!!!
Scouts hand clips into the jar while holding Mutated Milk even though it's very clearly a different animation to normal mad milk
Loadout screen scout is me in the morning when my left arm is still asleep and can't tell if it's holding something or not.
scout is just massaging his right hand after all the force and nature recoil, dont bully him shounic
he's just scratching his hand REALLY hard
I've seen this bug for years but never understood why that happened, thanks for explaining one of life's biggest mysteries
I remember noticing the wonkiness with Scout's hands in the loadout screen.
2:06 [virtual insanity plays]
a bachelor fine art
2:05 He’s just standing there… MENACINGLY!!!
ive always noticed this, both scout and medic
I found a weird bug in-game the other day. We had lost and i was playing as spy disguised as pyro before the round end and an enemy medic started healing me for the duration of the end phase. When the other round started i was hearing an intense crit sound as if i had multiple crit weapons equiped. I dont have footage of this but considering how easy it was im sure you can replicate it... if its replicateable. Have a nice one.
bold of you to assume I didn't already notice that flaw before
Huh, I thought it was normal. Figured we roll with it.
Robot Scout on the other hand......Yikes.
oh my god 1:31 that old main menu whole E crap
what a weird nostalgia
btw there is like a singular circular tnt under the soda popper when you choose a class in any game in tf2, but when you try see it anywhere else it won't show it, I don't know if it a bug or a hidden thing.
The bachelor of fine art.
Those bonus facts are fun
😮Thanks for video Shounic!
The animation in loadout menu overall has problems. Select the RPS taunt for Heavy and notice how his lips instantly open and close at the same time each time he speaks without moving his lips.
Literally my favourite youtuber
I get a bonar every tine you post
What I’m more concerned about is that scout is cupping his pistol
try holding the pistol with a 2-hand grip when you have hands as chonky as scout's.
@@caramelldansen2204 fair enough
the buttler fan art
I'm amazed this game shipped at all
I just noticed this, minutes later I see a shounic video
scout rubbing his shotgun while maintaining eyecontact
boy those dog tags are *E R E C T*
both of these bugs seem like the type of thing where I don't know how you WOULDN'T notice them but what do I know, I like viewing the loadout screen and playing with zoom and perspective via custom hud lol.
Ngl I was expecting/hoping (!) for a jump scare with the scout bot
I already noticed this in the bottom left corner of my screen
I noticed the pistol in the loadout screen before actually, never noticed any of the other stuff in this video tho
Jokes on you! I already noticed the arms looking weird a long time ago!
I've always noticed this, but ignored it, assuming it was either time crunch or something in the pipeline didn't support IK.
Hah, implying that this bug didn't annoy me for years. Finally, a shounic bug that won't affect me forever, because it already has.
Bro, the game is so developed, even the characters BREATHING.
ive noticed this in the loadout menu but never noticed it didnt do this in game
madmilk in right hand is also in the prop
While on the topic of animations, could you explain why Scout's legs break when he double jumps sometimes?
Oh I noticed that the day I started playing the game
Ah, I always thought scouts hand was really itchy in the menu
I honestly never noticed that it was actually in game only the loadout screen 😂
Why can that window on swiftwater first have a cleaver thrown through it? it also makes regular flares deal self damage which is really strange
Ah Bay Raitt ( SFM animator & TF2 Comic creator artist, Valve Developer ) what you did in mistakes in from the past?
The real travesty is how he is gripping the pistol
is it possible to animate the missing weapons and taunts for the mvm robots? on top of fixing engie's broken arm
What 1000+ Days without an update does to a man
and yet some of us are still havin fun. I kind like how no updates mean people taking keen interest in this aspect of the game. Although I do wish for that summer update to come soon.
what if in the last comic they added lore that scout accidentally dipped his hand in itching powder so that the loadout screen with the pistol is accurate; hes just scratching his knuckles
While not specifically a bug, I found that Scout's right foot slightly rotates when shooting a projectile, like the Sandman's baseball or the Wrap Assassin's ornament.
This is merely an animation oversight, right?
So why ARE inverse kinematics disabled in the loadout screen?
I wonder when the summer update will release
I always thought that was how it was in game
The weld tool
what do you mean at the end about tags being broken?
2:26 force-a-nature is magnetic confirmed
Hey shounic, could you review the Double Tap frame rate exploit that allows you to fire really fast and do way to much damage.
is inverse kinematics also why sniper may occasionally hold his kukri with both hands for a short amount of time after switching weapons?
Inverse kinematics is also responsible for the spycrab.
holy shit finally someone noticed
about the bonus fact with robo scout,
its a robot. I'm sure most robots can stay perfectly still if they try. i don't see how that could break one's immersion.
besides, when are you ever going to see a robot scout idling with a pistol out? (without community server plugins)
yeah, but if we want to be strictly attached to the cartoony style the designers where trying to put on the robots, they all should have an idle jitter movement as if they had an old engine running inside them.
@@catke590 I guess that's true.
oh nooooo scawy hawnds
i will unsee this. it is about 2 in the morning for me. I cannot not unsee this
Try testing Winger for Scout and Double Jump + Forward. Has chance his legs become bacon or Crazy Legs like symptom
I saw it since the start, I just thought it was an all-class problem.