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If I had a coin for every time I willingly watched an 8 hour essay con an old TV show instead of being productive, I'd have 2 coins which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice, right?
I've seen all four videos of these and am beginning to think that each episode of iCarly and this are just cries for help from the writing staff. Would explain the amount of sexual harassment, violence and sadism behind the scenes. It's subtle messaging for what Schneider was really like. I expect Sam and Cat may also have similar plotlines.
@@lorddrayvon1426 i’ve seen another video addressing how sexualised ariana was while playing cat (whilst also talking about the sexualisation of jennette mccurdy). it becomes really prominent in the later seasons. as soon as she stopped acting natural while playing cat, it went extremely downhill. like when she was “drinking” water upside down, they all knew what they were doing to her. and it’s upsetting. jennette and ariana were some of the most sexualised characters, thus why they randomly got a show together. most of this paragraph is from that video with some of my own commentary.
in case anyone was curious, as an avid viewer of matt bennett’s twitch streams (my comments on stream were in this video!) i’d like to clarify that matt is very sarcastic on stream, and he completely made up the “lost episodes”. in a later stream he even made up a whole story of how you have to find a treasure map to find them.
The fact that Matt Bennett said there was an episode with “The Weeknd” but he was underground until 2013 and wasn’t mainstream until 2015 I found it unlikely
I've never seen him in anything outside of Victorious, but I thought that was probably the case. I was surprised Quinton didn't bring it up as a possibility!
he never got a record deal because, as a minor, his grandmother won't allow it. 1) she makes unreasonable demands on his behalf, making the deal "not worth it" 2) she's afraid of losing Andre. she wants to keep him at home, not famous, with her.
if we ever get a victorious reboot i want them to elaborate on that damn "playing pirates" joke. i KNOW it's a molestation joke but MY ideal interpretation is that robbie just really, REALLY likes historically accurate pirate roleplay, including things like descriptions of ship-borne illnesses, and various torture methods, but cat just wanted to put on pirate hats and hit robbie with a fake sword over and over. so she doesn't like how he plays pirates because she gets freaked out by his grossly detailed story about dying of scurvy
Well... I mean... Robbie being really into historically accurate pirate roleplay would still make the molestation joke work because pirates and the whole... y'know..
That actually makes more sense considering when the pirate joke is first brought up, cat says she wishes they could talk like pirates and play pirate. Cause it seems odd she'd say that after supposedly being molested under the guise of "playing pirate"
“Take a Hint” is probably the best song on the show because it WASNT written for the show, it was originally by Meghan Kabir and Nickelodeon bought the rights to it
@@phucbich7581 best friends brother is a bop, but I can’t listen to it because My sister played it while I was asleep and having a nightmare. Now it’s just the background music to all of my nightmares. I wish I were joking
Honestly, a better running joke about Trina, rather than just 'she sucks at everything,' would've been that she's really talented, but only at things she doesn't care about, or when she's not trying to be. Some examples to get my point across: -Trina and Tori are trying out for the cheerleading team. Tori gets in because she's perfect at everything, but Trina doesn't. She angrily kicks the ball and walks away, not seeing that she's scored a field goal all the way across the entire stadium. The coach tries to get her to try out for football, but she was only interested in the cheerleading part. -Trina is trying to audition for the school; she is trying to sing a pop song, and completely botching it. The faculty all tell her she sucks, to which to gives an impromptu, passionate monologue about how they're all jerks who don't know anything and how she's struggled to get here, and that wows them so much they let her in on the spot. -Some kind of art class. Everyone is painting portraits, and Trina is doing terribly. She gets fed up, just throws a bunch of stuff on the canvas, and storms out. An Art Guy™ shows up and immediately begins praising such a well made abstract expression of pure rage, asking who made such an incredible piece. Tori takes credit because she's a terrible person.
I actually think Tori would take credit, especially if she knew it was Trina’s work. They hate Trina, and sometimes pretty undeserved. That last part about the art reminded me of SpongeBob, when Squidward gets in raged, and trash is the art room, but makes the most beautiful sculptor the critic had ever seen.
One thing the Slap segments really illustrate is how deeply, deeply uncomfortable so much of this show's humor is when you remove the laugh track. Beck and Jade's fights make my skin crawl. They make me want to leave the room. The Slap humor surrounding Robbie either makes me feel really bad for him, or it makes me want to remove him from this mortal coil with my own two hands. The only exception to this is Sinjin, who somehow gets exponentially funnier when everything he says is buffeted by long periods of uncomfortable silence.
@@L1am4M4t3 SAMEEEE! This series is a comfort watch for me and i've watched it wayyyy too many times to count😂(Then again, I'm neurodivergent and i like researching/hearing excessive detailed things about topics i know nothing or close to nothing about, this was bound to happen😂😂)
To add on that Trina reboot idea is not only she’s a mom and love by her husband but also a successful working woman. She would really shine just because she stop being around people who don’t appreciate her.
I’d like to think in this scenario, she really worked hard on workshopping Chicago and it made it to broadway and she’s like Lin Manuel Miranda level famous
@@nasawantsuback she changed it from a one-woman show to a really interesting piece about the abuse of the industry/family structures, but still with the known plot beats, so it's not a new show, it's just deeper
I'd like a running gag of everyone knowing who Trina is, liking Trina and referring to Tori as "Trina's sister"... Like Tori goes to "generic coffee shop" and when they ask her name she says "Tori" and when they call her the cup says "Trina's sister"
honesty Jade in the break up episode saying “but all boyfriends and girlfriends fight A LOT, right?” like that’s genuinely sad. she actually thinks that her toxic relationship is normal while everyone else is trying to tell her it’s not. whether intentional or not, she has the subtle mindset of a child raised in a really scary home life.
Also that Jade hides her emotions and expresses her love in anger. Meaning that she does like Tori but the only way to show is by mistreating her. Also that she only allows Tori & Beck to touch her and doesn't get mad about it
Actually, the fact that Jade watched the livestream of Beck and Tori till the end and didn’t turned it off after they leaned in for a kiss makes me very glad. I’m so so so tired of this annoying plot device when there is some love triangle or similar stuff and one character leaves too soon or doesn’t listen till the end and then there’s a huge brawl caused by a simple misunderstanding. So, the writers managed to do something great, good for them ig
Yeah, that’s one of my least favorite tropes. I hate when the entire plot could be wrapped up via a 5-minute conversation. But instead every time they get the chance they just go “wait… no… it’s not like that… c’mon… you’re being ridiculous…” etc.
As a teen/pre-teen all of this definitely went over my head but as an adult, I have so much empathy for Ariana and Victoria, they were certainly the main targets of someone's (we absolutely do not know who's) fetishes.
Trina brought them tacos. She also always supports Sinjin's endeavors. And she once drove to Bakersfield from LA (after school, mind you, so with traffic) to retrieve the solvent for the industrial glue. They repay her kindness by mentally and emotionally torturing her over the possibility of the guys wanting to date her. This group doesn't deserve Trina.
Trina and Tori actually kinda remind me of my sis and I when we were young. We were always competing and fighting with each other (I didn’t realize I had depression at the time so I was really hostile and she liked to make me mad, her words lol) but these days we’re really close and have talked everything out. Even back then, we would do stuff like Trina did FOR Tori. I hope in this world of victorious after they graduated and got time away from each other, they both realized they were being jerks to each other and made amends. That’s my personal headcanon.
I love when Jade is listing how or why everyone in the squad isn’t her friend, she doesn’t mention Andre. He just vibes we all want an Andre in our lives.
i met victoria justice once! she had this random signing at a random shopping mall in brazil, i think it was 2012? i was maybe 13 and spoke very broken english. anyway, we were only allowed to get one autograph from her, but i went up to her and explained as best as i could that i had a friend who lived far away who loved her but couldn't make it, and if she could sign an extra pic for said friend. she was like "of course i can! that is so sweet of you!" she had to get up and ask someone from her team for an extra pic, because we were all only given one to sign. anyway, somewhere someplace i have an autograph from victoria justice, my friend has hers that i mailed to her and i have the memory of her just being so nice and warm to me
i think the reason people feel like Beck and Jade are a good couple is bc Beck is just such an aggressively good friend (protecting Cat from the earthquake, letting Tori spit in his hands, knowing to bring Robbie a watermelon) that people kind of forget he's repeatedly shown to be a bad boyfriend (is obtuse or passive aggressive when he knows jade is upset or jealous, doesnt set boundaries with other girls like when he drove half a dozen girls that he knew liked him to school, always flirting with tori *bc* he knows it annoys jade, etc.,). like its the epitome of the "cool guy" and the significant other who feels forced to play the "cool girl" who doesnt care and if she does then she's ruining the fun. my personal belief has always been that Jade sees Tori as a threat to their relationship bc Beck *allows* tori to *be* a threat. he never sets proper boundaries with her after they kiss for a class after knowing each other 2 days & then she's suddenly in the friend group? id hate her too if i was jade. (also i dont think enough people realize that Tori kissed someone else's boyfriend TWICE! KNOWINGLY!! (no wonder cat and jade bond lol))
i feel like theres a lot more content of him being a good bf than a bad one. he has always gotten unwarranted attention and thats not always the receivers fault. jade had some serious jealousy issues on her own, it wasnt at all always jades fault. only thing i can say about beck is that wanted something different that wasn’t jade but still for some reason decided to be with her. which…..is not okay.
@@b1xssom838or maybe that makes them perfect for each other. In my experience toxic/slightly f’d/however you want to put it type of people tend to end up with each other because they’re the only ones that will put up with the bs. You ever notice snobs, cheaters, manipulators, bipolars, etc. tend to end up together? Not always obviously but very often.
@@accidentalmadness1708 the fact that toxic people are sometimes attracted to other toxic people doesn't mean that their toxic relationships are ideal...??? also i'm pretty confused that you listed people with bipolar disorder along 'snobs, cheaters, and manipulators.' three out of those four are mutable traits that can be changed if someone is willing to work on themselves; the other is an incurable disorder. weird of you.
It's one of the most satisfying takedowns I've ever witnessed. The quiet kid finally snaps and tells off everyone who treated them like shit. One of my favorite tropes for sure.
I thought for a while that the show was making fun of the way British people pronounced "St. John", like he was from some fancy aristocratic family and his full name was "St. John Van Cleef", but it turns out no, his full name is just two World of Warcraft references.
I think Trina as an adult in the reboot should be like The Rock. An action star known for her comedic chops and charisma who's infinitely more famous than any of her old classmates
Additional headcanon that she never gave up trying to sing, went through a lot of vocal training and a lot of voice teachers, and eventually did the thing the Rock did where he got one solo song in Moana, like Trina eventually stars in like one kids movie musical and that’s just on her résumé
Yeah, like she really is all the things she believed she was but once she becomes it and isn't tied to her family anymore we see how not only is she super talented, she's also incredibly nice and well deserving of her accomplishments because she's had to literally work from the bottom to the top on her own.
@@Samuel-ku1qb I LOVE THOSE HOUR LONG GOOD FAITH CRITICIM'S!! So excuse the well-meant Randomness when i recommend my fellow Quinton-Simps the hour-long Videos of Jay Exci on Doctoer Who, the stuff that Mavocate did for The Flash and basically Hbomberguys whole channel anyway, but especially his Essays baout RWBY and Sherlock. Oh and just in general: much stuff people made about High Guardian Spice. No need to thank me for these Watch-Suggests... no, really, i dont need your thanks, i want youre money. Send payment for this comment. Now.
My personal head cannon is that Trina, Singen and Birf have their own friend group after high school and talk about how awful the main cast were. Trina has someone who actually loves her, and Birf and Singin are still vibes.
@@poprocks6576 they’d probably make weird little indie projects that a niche audience really like, Singin comes up with ideas and Berf does all the technical stuff.
I have now watched over 13.5 hours of this guy talking about Victorious, a kids TV show that I myself never watched. And you know what? Worth it. I have no idea *why* it's worth it, couldn't tell you to save my life, but it is!
2:43:05 okay, after watching the last Sam and Kat video where Quinton went over Jennette's book, hearing Robbie/Matt Bennet sing about not trusting strangers who eat deli meat, when Jennette said Dan Schneider's favorite snack was cold cuts... well it stands out.
The part where Kat is trying to envision herself being safe under her bed with a laugh track over it really is wild. Like actual writers got together and thought of this?
I mean, it was basically the same scene as the one in Icarly where Sam and her mom fight in the booth as Carly experiences a panic attack due to being in a closed space.
Yeah, it’s sad that moments like these get written off as a joke, “oh look at this person who’s experience a panic so severe they pass out, isn’t that just silly? Hilarious even? No? Well what if we put a laugh track over it?”
That was pretty shocking. They wrote an obvious sign of serious abuse in as a punch line? Are you fucking with me? They could have kept the same bad joke but gone with something more ambiguous like "going to my happy place." Instead they paint us a picture of a scared little Kat curled up in the fetal position, rocking back and forth under her bes as the sounds of obvious domestic violence takes place in the next room. Frankly, I would have just assumed it was a mix of Autism, ADHD, and a low Intellect. But nope, turns out Kat is just developmentally stunted as a result of horrific domestic abuse. *Cue laugh track*
Suggestion for fixing Trina's whole weird treatment. Make her a stunt woman. She is a martial artist, and stunt acting would be a believable reason for her to be in Hollywood Arts. Also it would mean all the injuries she gets could be hand waved away as her just being able to take a hit or knowing how to avoid getting properly hurt even in sudden circumstances. Also it would add a good source of rivalry between the sisters because Trina could be the tough one who kinda bullies Tori a bit. Lastly, she can still want to be a singer and all that, and her story could be more about realising her talents lie elsewhere - but are still fucking cool
Do stunt doubles tie into the “Hollywood” part? Yes. But does it tie into the “arts” part? Not really. Sure there could maybe be an argument for that but it typically wouldn’t be considered a creative art which means art schools wouldn’t accept them. Edit: some of you guys seem to be misunderstanding what exactly in saying to fit the theory being presented. Because sure it can be considered an art, but stunt doubling being in an arts school _is_ a stretch, I’ve never seen any arts school have this as a course or have been a qualifier to get into an arts school.
We never talked about how Liz Gillies was almost certainly groomed on this show when she was a minor. She was 16 when the show began and was introduced to the Victorious music composer Michael Corcoran, who was nearly 40 at the time. They didn't "officially date" until shortly after she turned 18, but... it's clear what's happened here. The rumors about Schneider are one thing (and are probably also true), but Liz Gillies being groomed at the age of 16 for a man far, far older than she is definitely happened.
Jades reaction to Sinjin's sock puppet thing is so kind compared to how she is usually presented in the shows. She tries to show and reason with Sinjin why what he is doing is wrong instead of blowing up and cussing him out like she would with, say, Robbie or Tori. She had every right to be creeped out and call him names, instead she grabs him by the hand, looks him in the eye and says "hey, this isn't ok." which is wild.
She is surprisingly gentle but firm about it which is very mature. She just tries to get him to look at her so she knows he's taking in what she's saying and just tells him in a soft but assertive tone "this is not right" and an "okay?" So she can confirm he understands. Granted I see that more with kids that are elementary and middle school age but considering how completely ashamed and terrified he presents I think that was pretty appropriate
I find it incredibly wholesome that while working on such a mediocre and mean spirited show, the cast formed life long friendships that have continued to endure in the almost decade since they wrapped production. A lot of show’s when they end the cast members inevitably drift apart and I just take this immense joy in the fact the actors became this closely knit group that is almost the exact opposite to how they were presented in the show.
It kinda makes sense though. Like, imagine being that age and playing these awful people, singing and dancing and pretending to be jerks. That sounds fun as hell.
@@slevinchannel7589 there is indeed "no need to thank you," because nobody finds it endearing that you use multiple accounts to spam barely coherent copied-and-pasted rants like this on multiple channels, including quinton's, while mouthing off to the people who rightly tell you that you're being an unhinged freak only surprise now is you arent just randomly insulting the channels and their viewers like you usually do, but come on, man. just stop
Actually regarding the gang being friends, Jade says that she doesn't like Tori, no one likes Trina, she only tolerates Robbie and that Cat is basically a pet. She doesn't mention Andre, implying that she does view him as a friend.
@@Rougealienpirate honestly didn't remember her being so mean, as well as the other characters... when i watched the first quinton's video i was amazed to find that out
@@Rougealienpirate yeah everyone acts like she’s this ultra relatable person. If you relate to Jade you are the toxic friend in your group. She was designed to be a total bitch.
Listen Quinton, I just sat through 10 hours of your voice and opinions and thoughts. Which now means we have a parasocial friendship and my friends do NOT call themselves ugly 😤
My personal headcanon for Trina was that since it was established in the show that she did martial arts, she would eventually realise that she didn't need to try to be a musician or actress like everyone else in Hollywood arts but eventually became a sought after stunt coordinator in Hollywood and because of this whereas in the show, every guy seemed repulsed by her, now all the himbos and gymbros were fighting over her. But I like the bachelor ending too
My new headcanon is that she became a Pro Wrestler. Just the right mix of having stage presence, over acting AND being able to cordinate a fight well enough that it looks real? PERFECT for Trina.
“The Victorious fandom seems to have a version of Victorious that exists exclusively in their own minds.” That’s pretty common in fandoms, in my experience, especially fandoms for media that’s noticeably flawed. Some of them even drop the pretense and have people doing complete ground up rewrites all over the place. A show gives people something that sparks an idea in their heads, and they like the idea it sparked better than the thing itself, but the thing is what made the spark so they keep it attached to the thing.
This reminds me of the Grey's Anatomy community. Some of them are soooo convinced that Cristina was a bad friend to Meredith despite the show always showing the opposite. They just actively choose to ignore all the scenes and plots that proved Cristina was a ride or die for her because they really want to believe she was a bad friend.
Literally mlb. Like why does everyone think Alya will side with Lila and start bullying Marinette and be like physically abusive and shit? Just because Lila said she'd steal all of Marinette's friends doesn't mean that she'll actually succede. Like, Alya is such a supportive friend in cannon, she might fall for some of Lila's lies, but she doesn't immediately abandon Marinette or side with Lila over Marinette. She was one of the first people who stood up for her when Lila almost got her expelled. People need to stop hating on Alya. Sorry, this went on a complete tangent, my point was that the MLB fandom does this too.
I like the idea of them meeting back up for Sikowitz's funeral only because I want them to give heartfelt ullages about how he was so importantly to the development of their careers only for him to bust out of the coffin at the very end revealing that he isn't dead and was just fucking with them.
I'm a bit late, but I like the idea of it being the catalyst for the reboot being a kind of "redemption arc" for the gang. Like, Sikowitz' will explicitly calls them his favorite students and that he's disappointed they didn't become the people he wanted them to be, and leaves them this road trip scavenger hunt-esque puzzle that's written like his lessons. It takes them around to finally learn about his history, his rise and fall that left him a depressed school teacher, and it teaches them lessons about themselves and where they went wrong in their lives and how to fix it. Also Trina and Sinjin are the ones happy with their lives
@@BeesechurgerProductions The reboot is perfect representation of people who peaked in highschool struggle in the real world and other students who didn't succeed in high school improve themselves as time goes on
I barely watched victorious live, but “Take a Hint” is genuinely a bop. And you’re right about the toxicity of Beck and Jade, BUT Jade’s whole vibe definitely awakened something in me when I was younger.
Cat being homeless for an undisclosed but considerable amount of time is honestly such a developing piece of her character that is so overlooked because no one expected victorious to have lore that deep.
The storyline about beck faking being interested in in trina really broke me because I had something similar happen to me. Not to that scale if course but this really pretty guy pretended to be interested in me and asked for my number. You have no idea how amazing this made me feel, I was on cloud nine. I was so insecure about myself that the idea of a guy being interested in me was a fantasy but now it finally happened. (It was especially exciting because they’re weren’t many other gay guys in the area ) I was so happy that someone finally liked me that I ignored all the red flags. This guy was one of the popular kids, he played football, he hung out with people that I knew for a fact where homophobic, but I was so oblivious to it. It was to good to be true! And it wasn’t. He eventually blew his cover when I actually started texting him and as soon as I realized it was a joke my heart shattered and I felt the same way trina did. Extremely insecure, no one could ever like me and no one ever will. It’s so screwed up that a middle school boy can traumatize someone like that in the matter of a week. I felt so stupid to ever believe anyone would like me. In short: DO NOT under any circumstances fake liking someone because it can cause so much damage.
Same here, I had something similar happen to me, also in middle school. When you already have low self-esteem and you get built up by someone gaslighting you like that it can REALLY mess with you. To this day I have a hard time believing that I'm actually worthy of love or even a good person, all because someone used me for their own amusement in that way. I would've preferred a flatout rejection rather than finding out I was being lied to for so long, and in the worst way possible too (got added to the vent group chat as joke because everyone had just finished making fun of me). Albeit in the episode Trina started spreading the rumor that Beck was interested in her, but the hurt still stands. Trina gets gaslit and the gang goes back to emotionally abusing and manipulating her.
It is absolutely ridiculous how nickelodeon would make jokes about Trina/ Daniella Monet being ugly when she is clearly not in Victorious and then in Grow Up Timmy Turner she's now the "hot girl" character when she looks the same. It also continues the whole "conventionally unattractive people are bad people" stereotype.
I mean… I think it’s more “pretty girly girls are bad people” because it’s always the nlog that’s plain looking and “she wears short skirts, I wear T-Shirts” type girls that always gets the guy. But anyways, it really was stupid for them to pretend that she wasn’t really attractive.
Definitely. They didn't even make any effort to make her look any less attractive than the other girls! But even if we talk about "ugly on the inside" she doesn't qualify. Her biggest flaw is overestimating her talent? She's not a bitch like jade or a bimbo like Kat, which are normally the two "she's hot but I'll pass" girls in TV shows. She's an attractive girl who is annoying. Her character is a failure of the writing mantra "Show, don't tell" they told us she was terrible, but showed us nothing to support it. Even irl Tori Justice shipped her with THE HOT PRINCE in her headcannon, so we know the actors saw this as an issue too.
If they used a girl who was actually considered unattractive by beauty standards then people today would’ve considered it bullying and Victorious would’ve been looked down upon as a series. So of course they use someone attractive. I think they tried to allude to the fact that Trina was unattractive because of her personality not because of her facial features. It’s the same thing with Drake and Josh. Josh was supposed to be considered “unattractive” because he was overweight. But when he lost all the weight he became significantly more attractive to women so instead of using his outside features they continued to make him really awkward, whiny, nerdy etc. so that Drake still seemed like the “cooler brother.” A similar formula was used on Zack and Cody.
im glad you mentioned trina’s martial arts ability bc after it came up it stuck in my mind that she was actually excelling in the school as a stunt coordinator/fight choreographer but everyone ignored that bc she’s so adamant abt being a good singer and actor. anyway im gonna pretend the canon is simply not canon
Right she may not be a talented performer but she has all the qualifications, creativity and delusion of an amazing director, producer, and choreography/fight coordinator like you said- we need a Trina spinoff of her working in the industry post grad👏😭😂
@@buhhhla222 totally agree victorious sucks in that regard not enough relevancy or depth for characters for example I watch a series known as dynasty that feature Liz gillies and there she has more background history more depth more interesting sub plots more character liberties and freedoms with cursing and what not and much more relatability
something you didn’t mention was Liz Gilles dating and eventually marrying a producer on victorious. She was 18 when they first “officially” started dating and he was 38. She was 16/17 when the show first started though. It’s really sad to see such a blatant case of grooming.
And THEN you remember that bit in the Slap video about Cat and Jade telling a bedtime story, where Jade includes the detail that the princess met a man on a dating site who turned out to be 37. Hmmm, what a specific number, I wonder where they got it from.
@greywolf7577 and yet you still don't understand what happens when someone is groomed. Do you honestly think they have to be held against their will or something for it to be abuse?
@@greywolf7577 not exactly, there was a lot going on behind the scenes as you know , for her it was kinda like protection, she knew” I shouldn’t be with this man, he’s too old for me“ but she also knew if she stayed with him, it protected her from the other predators on set
I was a background actor (shrugger) on quite a few episodes of both iCarly and Victorious. Your info at 5:38:38 is all accurate. Yes, that is exactly where the Asphalt Cafe scenes were filmed, and the glass doors you see in those scenes are literally the front doors that the background actors used every shoot. Was it for the Hollywood sign shot? Maybe, but it was also super convenient to shoot there, as often one day of filming would be able to cover a wide range of scenes (inside the school, Asphalt Cafe, ect) without wasting too much time going between locations for shooting. Also to add, typically the noise was not TOO bad as the outdoor scenes were usually done in the morning after rush hour. I remember a police/ambulance siren would cause a few seconds of delay in between takes, but that was a rather infrequent occurrence.
What ive learned from watching all of Quinton’s Nickelodeon content is that Daniella Monet was WAY better than any of the other actors and actresses in any of these sitcoms and yet she was getting ALL the worst vehicles: Fred, Timmy Turner movies, and comedic relief in Victorious.
@@patax144 I now remember that. It feels like in the same way they made Victorious to make Victoria Justice a singer seemingly ignorant to having Ariana Grande RIGHT THERE, they kept trying to cast girls to be the likable quirky lead of their shows and then going “gah what should we do with Daniella its not like thats exactly her wheel house”
Update as I continue this video: everytime Quinton gives a new detail about Trina I just feel worse and worse for this character and that combines with me feeling sympathetic for Daniella that she was stuck being Dan Schneider's punching bag and honestly I cant keep straight what parts are me feeling for Daniella and what parts are me feeling for Trina. I almost wanna watch the show just to see if Trina is as sympathetic when I have to sit through her antics
@@Agumame Trina is really only sympathetic when analyzed in an objective context entirely separate from the show. If you watch the show, you'll probably find her to be extremely annoying.
Honestly I really do think Sinjin is an accurate portrayal of the creative kids at school and he's the only one that is really accurate in that portrayal. Like I would say Sinjin is the only character in this show I would look at and say that I can actually relate because in a way he was the creative theatre kid at school who was definitely way more fun to be around and the production ending is something I agree with Quinton on, it is such a befitting ending that the real theatre kid in the show who was a punching bag for the others pointed out how they failed, I think the only thing that could've maybe been a better ending is "Trina actually proves to have talent," but because the other kids can't see past her being a little bit annoying and maybe a tiny bit cringy, they weren't able to see that she was actually a talented person, it's just her trauma was holding her back because really sometimes trauma can do that.
I throw Andre in there too because everyone has met a character like that in life Like a cool dude that Genuinely don’t really hear people complain about ever But 100% Sinjin was a real one
I like to imagine that both Sinjin and Trina were actually really popular and well-liked at hollywood arts, and the main cast were just too self-centered to notice
This is going to be my first ever 8h youtube video that I'll watch. Wish me luck yall, and god bless you, Quinton, for making this much content for us😂
@@silveryin4341 where do you work that lets you listen to RUclips videos 😭 I’m genuinely asking bc I wanna quit my job so bad and find something better LMAO
@@gabrielabrook I work in security as someone who wears plain clothes and stuff. Tbh the only part of that job that's even remotely cool or good is I can watch videos to look casual. So I dont think I can help much sorry.
I honestly feel so bad for both Tori and Trina. Their parents neglect both of them, and it's implied that this has been going on for their entire lives. Trina likely got told to look after Tori, which made her resent her sister. That's why the writers try to make it seem like Trina is so mean to Tori, and that's also the reason Tori doesn't like Trina. They both wanted the same thing, and both felt like the other got in the way. They tried to tear one another down at every turn to "win" their parents affection, and their parents did nothing about it. The worst part is that they never got what they wanted, which probably fueled the fire. I think that Trina tried in more flashy ways to get their parents attention, and that's why they don't love her. Tori, in the pilot, seemed like the type to suffer silently to get her parent's attention. Maybe getting good grades, or cleaning her room better, doing dishes, cooking, etc- quiet activities. But then Trina had her accident at the stage show, and the crowd loves her. Their parents started tolerating Tori because they started seeing more potential. They see a chance to get famous by association, when they don't give a shit if either of their daughters have their basic needs met. They care about them shutting their mouths and leaving them alone. It doesn't matter if they have nothing to eat. It doesn't matter if they get mouth surgery and are in massive pain. It doesn't matter if they need their parents guidance and god forbid if they want to hang out with their parents. They don't give a shit about their kids and that's why they're so fucked up. They're both need a lot of ✨therapy✨
I didn't really watch much Victorious (especially after the first season or two) and how the parents are written absolutely blows my mind. Like... why exactly did they think writing an affair into a kids show was a good call? And that scene where Tori's mom just straight up eats all the food in the house and tells Tori to starve... like who does that??? Do the writers have some mommy issues they're trying to work through???
@@suicune95 I think it's an outgrowth of a gag from Drake and Josh, where their dad is a weatherman whose rival is an extremely handsome weatherman. Megan is obsessed with the handsome rival weatherman, and while I don't think the mom is implied to be unfaithful, she does acknowledge that he's good looking. So the Victorious version of that is meaner, edgier, and probably a punishment to David's actor for quitting the show. As for why halfway through the show Tori's mom becomes a terrible person, I think the writers just thought that was funny. For a Watsonian explanation, maybe Tori turning out to have talent led to her parents deciding they didn't have to put as much effort into taking care of her, as she can take care of the family now.
@@breadeater1194 "the writers just thought it was funny" is the true reason behind everything. They didn't put thought into these characters or relationships beyond "it's funny." Like how Trina's parents hate her. It's "funny" because we don't like Trina. The fact that it usually isn't funny for parents to hate their children never even came to mind
sinjin’s obsession with jade is referenced quite a lot actually. from offhand remarks to sinjin implied to have broken into jade’s house during the plane episode when sinjin joins the facetime call
i dont know why this doesnt have any replies but exactly! i didnt watch the slap but i very much remember sinjins crush on jade, so it was deffo a thing in the actual show. dont know how quinton didnt notice
7:50- The Breakfast bunch 16:50- The gorilla Club 20:46- The worst couple 29:22- Andre's Horrible girl 33:07- Car, rain and fire 38:56- Tori and Jade's play date 46:09 - Driving Tori crazy 51:03 - How Trina got in 55:55 - Crazy Ponnie 59:17 - The Blonde Squad 1:00:31 - Tori goes Platinum 1:12:25 - character analysis update 1:44:00 - expanded universe analysis 2:00:21 - The slap prolouge 2:25:00 - The slap overview 2:34:58 - The slap profiles 2:49:49 - The Slap season 1 3:18:44 - The Slap season 2 3:44:08 - The Slap season 3 4:01:47 - The history of Burf De Fect 4:14:45 - The Slap season 4 4:33:55 - Wanko's Warehouse 4:42:51 - The hambone king 4:48:11 - Opposite date 4:52:54 - 3 girls and a moose 4:57:17 - Cell block 5:02:13 - Tori fixes Jade and Beck 5:08:06 - One Thousand Berry Balls 5:14:29 - Things I forgot -10. sinjin dreadlocks 5:16:22 - TIF 9. Justin Bieber 5:21:06- TIF 8. Big Time rush christmas music video 5:22:18 - TIF 7. "Lost" victorious episode 5:32:40 - TIF 6. Ariana Grande Jerry Seinfeld impersonation 5:34:26 - TIF 5. Robbie is related to The Nanny 5:35:45 - TIF 4. Google maps asphalt cafe 5:41:34 - TIF 3. I think we all sing 5:48:43 - TIF 2/1. misc 5:53:17 - Robbie sells Rex 6:00:54 - Bad Roommate 6:05:00 - Brain squeezers 6:11:11 - Shipping of Victorious 6:36:33 - Climate change 6:45:42 - The slap fight 6:52:55 - Star spangled Tori 6:59:25 - Victori-yes 7:05:03 - lack of a finale 7:11:19 - Which episode makes the finale? 7:19:54 - conclusions 7:40:00 - where are they now
"Have you ever fantasized about going on a date with someone and then it really happened?" Dude, no! Of course I haven't! I'm watching an 8 hour video on the second half of the series Victorious! Come on man, don't rub it in okay!
my guess for why people regard beck and jade's relationship as wholesome and cute is that it was the first physically affectionate relationship we actually saw on tv. the two are always touching, especially with jade always sitting on beck's lap, and it isn't like most kid's show relationships. most of the characters we saw dating on tv when we were growing up would barely hold hands, they would mostly just kiss on screen. but since beck and jade already have all the same classes and friends, they spend all their time together anyway in a way we just hadn't really seen before. we saw dating as going on occasional dates, so the idea that a relationship could be physically affectionate in ways other than kissing was new and exciting, and it overshadowed all the stuff about them hating each other.
I just tuned out all the abuse and fighting to the point that I forgot about it and convinced myself that they loved each other. I did the same thing with my parents.
That's a great call. Most of the time you'd only know they're a couple in those shows bc they say they are or the occasional kiss. But most of the time they come across platonic. Which is kind of funny as teenage couples irl are probably the touchiest. They're constantly on top of each other and are dysfunctional. So jade and beck were pretty realistic when most on these shows aren't.
Also if you’re a kid, you may not pick up on how clearly toxic it was for both of them. Because they’re holding hands, hanging out, not cheating on each other. At least that was my definition of “healthy relationship” as a kid
The casual mention of Miranda Sings at 1:01:21 caught me off guard. You know that if Quinton made this video more recently that this would be brought up VERY differently.
@jenniferdenton8601 That wasn't an apology video. She didn't say anything resembling "I'm sorry." That was a "please stop talking about me and my creepy behavior cause it's hurting my career" video.
Here's the thing about Victoria's singing. She is a very good singer. It's just not so apparent here because everyone else is not only as good, they're just technically better at singing. The only reason Victoria's songs stand out more is they're built up but her vocals are also always WAY too loud in the mix. As if to say "the only way they'll think she's good is if we just shove her voice to the front and make everything else in the song as dull and repetitive as possible to it doesn't draw any attention away from her vocals.
In fact, Victoria is signed to an independent label and is still releasing new music to this day, and I'll actually admit that it's worth checking out and I can see someone liking her new music. I even really like a few of her songs from the last few years
beck and jade's website segments are so viscerally uncomfortable without a laugh track. it feels less like i'm watching a comedy sketch, and more like i'm watching an actual abusive relationship playing out
ngl I watched this show kinda passively but was a genuine fan of it - I honestly, *honestly* thought that Tori and Andre had some kind of subtextual romantic thing going on. I'm a little surprised that it wasn't actually there. This show really does exist in people's heads more than it exists in real life.
There are a couple of scenes where there is subtext, even if unintentionally. What comes to mind to me is in the diddlybops, where Tori tries to cheer him up, then he writes a love song immediately after she leaves and then it cuts to him singing it to Tori. That isn't as solid as it sounds in context, as the show would go on, it would be common for them to write and sing songs that have nothing thematically to do with what's going on, but I could totally see how someone would look at that scene and think it was meant to suggest a romantic relationship. I'm actually not a Tandre shipper, I'm a Jori shipper, but I think it's odd when some ones says "it only exists in there heads" because that is literally all art. Every piece of art in the world is interpretable, and it's entirely possible that some one else could pick up on a different subtext than you or the next person.
I think it's a case of what I like to call, "First Girl Syndrome": where the first member of the opposite sex on the main cast is usually the character our protagonist ends up with. And unfortunately, it's so pervasive that the audience is basically trained to expect it.
On the one hand: this is very impressive, and you know I'm going to watch every single minute of this 8 hour video. On the otherhand: Quinton, buddy, are you okay? Do you... Do you need something? Anything? Any crimes you need committing? We can do that. We'll do it for you.
finding out that Phineas Flynn and Sinjin Van Cleef are not only ROOMMATES, but EXPLICITLY anti-NFT absolutely made my day. Thank you so much, Quinton.
Sinjin being a senior makes perfect sense to me. He's been around the block. He knows. It's not just that he's above it all, he's on a whole new level. He knows what he's about. Like, at the very least, he just doesn't have it in him to care that much about all the bullshit anymore, and that brings him the power to truly live free. After 4 years of being teenage morons, most of my graduating class felt and acted the same way. Why give a shit what everyone else thinks when you're gonna be gone the next year?
At this point he’s given the show more publicity and his videos would become even more popular if a reboot were to be announced so yes he would deserve some type of payment for a reboot lmao
i don't even mean this as a joke, for real, THANK YOU FOR NOT SHOWING US THE PIMPLE POPPING SCENE, i know how tempting it must be to share this horrible experience with us, but i will be thankful every day from now on that i can live the rest of my life not having seen that! ❤️ edit: ATTENTION, as people pointed out in the comments there is another one at 6:07:34 which is not censored, robbie gets sprayed with pus, so avoid that if you want! it's a lot less disgusting though, in my opinion, since there is no pimple popping shown actually.
“I don’t think Matt Bennett is lying” I think Matt Bennett is 100% lying. He lies like Robert Pattinson does in all his interviews. Why? Because it’s hilarious.
6:51:19 I think what makes this moment more special is that Jade doesn't have a comeback, it seems literally every time anyone might threaten her or say anything slight mean about her, she screams at them or just has a comeback, or just says "NO ONE LIKES YOU" but here shes silent, which in her language is basically admitting Sinjin is completely right, which he is
Man, there are so many shows Quinton could do this with. Zoey 101, Big Time Rush, Sam and Cat, Hannah Montana (if he wanted to go into Disney stuff, damn thatd open up so many more). He'd probably go absolutely insane, but if he wanted to do it, I'd happily watch it all. Every single video.
IDK if I’d want to watch him talk about the Disney shows. The fun of analyzing the Nick shows from that era is that they were still very corporate and formulaic kids tv but there’s this manic, unhinged aspect to them, especially in the ways where they don’t quite pull off the things they want to do. I honestly think the Disney ones of that era are too well oiled and competently managed to be that engaging as a retrospective. You watch Drake and Josh or ICarly and you’re like “Ok these people are either working through some stuff or they’re deliberately trying to one up each other with how much they can get away with” while the Disney ones all felt very carefully tested before going forward with anything.
Okay the Beck/Jade relationship stinks on ice, but the actors have this really natural chemistry that makes me think they were very close friends during filming. They seem like they genuinely care about each other.
... kinda wish that friendship could’ve been part of preventing Elizabeth Gilles from marrying a child predator :/ Like she was groomed so it’s not her fault but I wish people had been able to prevent it. Idk. I loved jade as a kid and she‘s a really good singer :/
I agree that my memory of that relatiomship was different, but I liked that there was a couple and not another thing where the lead ends up with the pretty boy after a bunch of back and forth during the runtime of the show. Even nowadays we hardly ever have couples that ARE a couple. Most shows even then just have people get together, and then they realise it's not true love and then they replace the love interest with another. Eventhough the relationship itself was bad, I thought it's interesting that they put a couple in thebshow that is consistently dating for most of the show.
@@corneliahanimann2173 heteronormativity loses out portraying healthy relationships- healthy straight relationships are obviously possible but like, look through straight relationship jokes, especially a generation or so back, and they’re like all about not communicating with your partner, mistrusting them, finding them alien and shrugging because “that’s just how it is- men and women, two different species.” It’d be great to see more healthy relationships out of media as well as more diverse ones imo
@@Lucifersfursona riiight?? I will from now on blame Nick for shaping my shitty communication skills in relationships. My comment here was really just a throwaway "give credit where credit is due" type of comment. Before Victorious I watched Zoey 101 and ICarly. Both have an endless back and forth with the leads about who should end up with who, both have an episode where they have a guy rescue the girl and have a 1 episode relationship that ends because they want to be sure they actually love eachother. All of the shows end with the leads finally getting together, but when I watched Victorious, I thought it's kinda revolutionary, who else had a couple in the show that was going to remain a couple? No one did. They clearly don't know how to portray a couple, but I thought it's great that Jade and Beck are seperate characters that also date eachother and no one had to be hit by a vehicle for that to happen. It's the most normal thing Nick was capable of portraying at the time.
I think it speaks volumes to how charismatic and talented Leon Thomas is that I have fond memories of Andre and still genuinely enjoy the character despite him being such an after thought to the writers
As someone who's never watched the series beyond these videos, here's my theory on Tori, Beck, and Jade: Imagine Tori is closeted. She doesn't even realize it herself. Despite this, she's friends with the one guy who every girl INSISTS is the most attractive, but she just doesn't see it. Still, she convinces herself she IS attracted to him, because she thinks that's "normal". As long as Jade and Beck stay together, she doesn't need to think about it. Despite her competitive tensions with Jade, she grows attracted to her which only further intensifies their jagged friendship. But when she sees Beck and Jade together, she still FEELS something, but convinces herself that it's for Beck. Time passes after Beck and Jade break up, but when Tori has a genuine chance at being with Beck, she can only think about Jade: the one she's supposedly hates.
i 10000% agree with this as someone who pretended to have a crush on the popular guy just to fit in, only for that "crush" to fade 3 days later when he said one word to me. i learned later on in life that it's called "comphet"
this actually fits very well. like in "tori fixes beck and jade" when jade is singing "you don't know me", tori was singing along, very into it, and was completely Shocked that jade was staring at beck. it almost seemed like she pointed a bit to herself before to beck. she thought the song was for her 😭
In one Slap video, Cat says that she put pink tape around her hairdryer so that she'd know if someone stole it. Then in a later video Trina is seen holding a hairdryer with pink tape around it. Did they just reuse a prop thoughtlessly, or is it cannon that Trina stole her hairdryer? We'll never know.
You know, if you really think about it, there is a lot of very raw potential in this show - if it weren't for the writers not being able to keep a straight face or the uncomfortable fetish stuff or the whole Ariana-getting-infantilized-to-make-Victoria-Justice-look-good-shit. I mean, think about it. You have: - Two sisters with neglectful parents overcompensating in different ways yet striving for the same goal - A talented musician who is struggling to balance out his career and taking care of his grandma suffering from dementia - A girl suffering from mental issues resulting from her brothers' violent behaviour - An awkward but (technically) kind-hearted young man who's outlet is a dummy reflecting his attempts/wish to be more outgoing and confident - An edgy goth girl with anger issues steaming from her father issues - Her boyfriend (yeah, sorry, Beck, I got nothing for you) If you played this with a straight face or at least tone down the comedic weirdness, this would be the stuff angsty teen drama is *made of*. You could even put a few nice messages about mental health, standing up to abusive/neglectful relatives etc. etc. in this.
Beck, who constantly gets unwelcome advances from girls and adults and is also in an abusive relationship that he refuses to see as abusive because he doesn't think that can't happen to guys?
@@Cloudy4Days I wouldn’t say unwlecomed, he definitely welcomes it and doesn’t do anything to stop it, that’s why Jade goes crazy. That’s why she’s constantly saying “this is my boyfriend”, she feels like she has to be on guard cause she knows Beck wouldn’t do anything. He prides himself in being a “ladies man” and so Jade doesn’t have a safe space with Beck.
for anyone outside the US wondering: freshman = typically ages 14-15 sophomore = typically ages 15-16 junior = typically ages 16-17 senior = typically ages 17-18, the final year of high school for american students
I know everyones already said it, but Cat breaking down while jade and beck are arguing is genuinely so... Not funny? Idk. Just reminds me of when my parents argued when i was growing up. To this day i can't deal with folks arguing around me
David Schwimmer not being alive is still consistent in Victorious! The actress says shes in a show called "The Dead" and she plays David Schwimmer's wife. The version of David Schwimmer in "The Dead" could be a fictionalized version of him as a ghost/spirit
It would be fucking hilarious if not only David Schwimmer is dead in the NSU, his death was apparently tragic and notable enough for someone to adapt it into a show ominously called The Dead where one of the characters is his wife/eventual grieving widow
jade liking bunnies isn’t a surprise- bunnies are surprisingly FULL of attitude and can be pretty snappy. they’re very bossy and pushy and pretty badass animals. anyone who’s owned a bunny knows they aren’t for the weak of heart lol
Jade liking bunnies reminds me of when I changed schools, and i was literally the only new one In a class of 200 Girls. So i talked to a lot of them and started being silly with it and when I got to 'the goth kid', she was a year older than the rest, had a tatoo at 16, wore black blouses with the uniform (we all wore white ones, but the rule didnt *say* they had to be White) i asked her her favorite color (black, obv), favorite food (meh, pizza i guess), hobbies (music, duh), and favorite animal. BUNNIES. And she Just gave me a slide show of her bunny, bruce, in costumes.
@@pokemonfanthings4444 mine would push you with his snout if you stood somewhere he wanted to go. It was so cute to be ‘attacked’ by this little fluff ball.
My bunny ended up half blind (cat incident) land he died how he lived.. sleeping and ignoring people. He got squished by a big tractor wheel. I don’t even blame the farmers around here because there’s no way they could’ve seen him and he should’ve been running!! He loved our apple tree. He lived in our yard and just knew to stay because it was home. He would stomp and grunt at us and would ask for pets by pushing his head out at you. Him and my little kitty were BFFs. He tried to hump one of our other kitties and it didn’t go so well for him lmao
leon thomas WON A GRAMMY this year. he produced “snooze” by sza, he produces for a lot of big artists and makes his own music!! his recent album was so so good, he’s made a name for himself within the industry for sure
The sheer panic I felt when I heard the words “I ship Tori and Rex” cannot be measured and no this is not a spoiler because even knowing this information you are not prepared
I like to believe that Sinjin is fairly wealthy having started a niche but successful tech business in Silicon Valley and Trina is living her best life in Northern California, away from the LA vortex. They are both close longtime friends, each having their own lives but keeping in touch online. There's a group chat with their respective partners with years worth of inside jokes. They get together about 4-5 times a year, sometimes even vacationing together abroad and having a blast. The funniest part is that both Trina and Sinjin have been friends for so long and they both disassociate from their time at Hollywood Arts so much, that they misremember their friendship extending as far back as freshman year. Like, "yeah remember when you got your head stuck in a vending machine? classic Sinji" or " aww remember when I taught you to jump rope? that was such a fun day!"
Quinton, you're clearly a madman, but there's something about your voice, your presence, your analysis, your approach towards things that makes you so warm and likable. Obviously keep this up bro lol.
For those wondering, the Andre's age rant at 2:46:50 is as follows: "You see, in the Pilot Episode, Trina says that Andre is in the Tenth Grade. And while you might argue that she just got his age wrong, just like she just got his name wrong, you also have to keep in mind that Trina is a year older than all the other characters. And when Trina finds out that she can't do the annual showcase, someone comments, "there's always next year", implying that she's NOT a Senior, because if she WAS a Senior there wouldn't BE a next year for her, meaning that she has to, at the very least, be a Junior, or earlier. Through the end of Season 2, Trina talks about the Seniors at the school as if she isn't one, and it's not until Season 3, where it's first implied that a year has passed In-Universe, that Trina's been at this school for four years, something which is allegedly confirmed in Season 4, although I haven't gotten that far yet."
I wouldn't be surprised if the writers thought they had done a 'Trina is so terrible at performing, she had to repeat a grade' joke setting up all this, but they in fact hadn't.
That feeling when something cringes you tf out so you quickly click the scrub bar to skip through it, but the video is 8 hours and that small click constituted well over half an hour and you now seemingly can't find the section you were on. Just a hyper specific problem that as a long form content listener I experience with startling frequency.
@@Deadspooky-Gore if it's any consolation, I literally could not name you one song by Arianna Grande. So be contented by the knowledge that there is a very large sub section of the especially male population who neither know anything about her, nor particularly care.
same. one of the things i remember always from this show. the rest is foggy and overall i’d just remember the idea of the episode but no. this clip i will remember clearly
finding out that cat's brother has a canonical appearance in the NSU (aka frankie grande) has literally shook me to the core. my jaw was dropped for a solid minute.
And not just that, but that he's both a supervillain and an e-celeb at the same time. And that he puts a plastic bag full of feet in the trunk of his car Like, Goddamn. When Kat said he was kinda weird, that was REALLY an understatement
The most ironic part of finding out that Matt Bennett's parents got divorced from this video is that Matt Bennett's mom was my elementary school guidance counselor, who specialized on divorce. Her program was called "the banana splits" and she gave us these little things called warm fuzzies. She was a really sweet woman, when I heard that it was her son on victorious I lost my shit.
3:18:39 I legitimately took a break from this video after this section. I didn’t fully accept the “we’re just gonna move on immediately” message and just had to walk away. I’m glad that the content was mentioned because people should be aware of the stuff these kids were forced to do but watching it is so uncomfortable. I feel so bad for the actors looking back on the stuff that happened and knowing how many people saw it
I figured it out. There are no mistakes. When Cat's favorite actress says that she's playing David Schwimmer's wife on The Dead, it doesn't imply that David Schwimmer himself is alive. In fact, it implies the OPPOSITE. The show, after all, is called "The Dead," so it's about dead people. She could very easily be playing the CHARACTER of David Schwimmer, the dead actor's, wife, WITHOUT the man himself being involved, OR she is playing the wife opposite a DIFFERENT actor playing a CHARACTER named David Schwimmer. There ARE no mistakes.
Also Freddie could’ve been mistaken that David Schwimmer died on Celebrities Underwater. I think they just threw his name in the script because it makes for a funny joke (sounds like “swimmer”)
A thing I noticed (after rewatching this for the ungodly-st time) that Jade's reaction on Sinjin's puppet show is... really tame. Like almost... empathetic? Maybe I'm just so used to this character being almost psychopathic that this seems like an extreme in comparison, but it's really more a "Dude, I know your judgment on what is social acceptable is not good, but this is weird, creepy and not acceptable, stop". Bit like she'd talk to someone neurodivergent. Her reaction to Burf behind the camera (the angry "Is. that. on?!") is more the Jade I know.
@@sammybear21 Same. I think it's really the voice that sells it and I honestly think it is deliberate. Because we know the actress can do the "silent yet threatening" voice (like you see in the "Take a hint" song), but that's not what's happening here.
i noticed this too and found it cute. she seemed more concerned for his mental well-being. she only seemed to get upset with him when she realized the sock puppet was her. like the fact she didn’t know the sock puppet was her was weird to me lol like the others seemed to just wander in and then only after they realized the sock puppet was them (or was uh… the president) that they made a stance on it. aside from trina but my assumption was she heard about this from tori and jade. but jade just seemed worried and empathetic. maybe that’s why sinjin likes her, because she is actually kind of nice to him in private lol.
It seems remarkably out of character for her honestly, her tone is that of genuine concern and actually some level of caring. I think it really is in the voice because it's a lot gentler than usual. I genuinely like that part of the scene as that's a considerate (and sweet, again weird for Jade) way to handle that situation (and a level of empathy I wish I'd gotten when I was younger - for social faux pas that are less weird than that puppet show ofc, but faux pas all the same.) I almost feel some disappointment when she reverted back to something more on character with the 'is that supposed to be me?' and what follows from there, even though that is how Jade generally acts.
That part where Sinjin tells off the main characters for being so conceited and them failing was so cathartic and satisfying, that’s my canon ending of the show. All jokes aside, this was a behemoth of a video and I enjoyed every single moment of it. Take that month long break my child (even though you’re like a year and a half older than me), you deserve it. Plus the end cameos were amazingly wholesome and absolutely hilarious respectively lol
sinjin saying “gentlemen, start your sinjins” and then doing a flawless cartwheel is one of the fucking funniest things i’ve ever seen.
TIMESTAMP OMG 💀
@@carmenmercedes9903 7:02:19 it's so great
Literally the morbing morbius meme, but actually and like 8 years earlier.
don't forget the "wheee" he says while performing it!
peak comedy.
@@abbyelectricthe “wheeee!” is what takes it from pushing air through my nose to an audible laugh.
the fact that "its all downhill from here" is the last line robbie has in victorius. so real
The fact that you said the fact that shows the fact that you didn’t really need to say the fact that
He quoted frank ocean ijbol
@@kingpen5866 the fact that you left this comment shows the fact that you didnt really need to leave this comment
@@baileyayyy5085 the fact that the fact was about him using his fact that is factual fact that the fact that the fact is
The fact that the fact that the fact that the fact that you keep saying the word fact shows the facts that is the fact that you are the factual word unserious
Movie with a two hour long runtime?: No.
RUclips essay about old TV Shows thats 8 hours long: Yes. HELL YES.
Victorious being called old made me die inside
If I had a coin for every time I willingly watched an 8 hour essay con an old TV show instead of being productive, I'd have 2 coins which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice, right?
8 hour video essays about old TV shows THAT I BARELY WATCHED, absolutely yes
I've seen all four videos of these and am beginning to think that each episode of iCarly and this are just cries for help from the writing staff. Would explain the amount of sexual harassment, violence and sadism behind the scenes. It's subtle messaging for what Schneider was really like. I expect Sam and Cat may also have similar plotlines.
@@lorddrayvon1426 i’ve seen another video addressing how sexualised ariana was while playing cat (whilst also talking about the sexualisation of jennette mccurdy). it becomes really prominent in the later seasons. as soon as she stopped acting natural while playing cat, it went extremely downhill. like when she was “drinking” water upside down, they all knew what they were doing to her. and it’s upsetting. jennette and ariana were some of the most sexualised characters, thus why they randomly got a show together. most of this paragraph is from that video with some of my own commentary.
"Beck is the kinda guy who would rather be chill than be right" You've done it!!! You've broken Beck down to his fundamental characteristics!!
Unless it's with his girlfriend 😂
in case anyone was curious, as an avid viewer of matt bennett’s twitch streams (my comments on stream were in this video!) i’d like to clarify that matt is very sarcastic on stream, and he completely made up the “lost episodes”. in a later stream he even made up a whole story of how you have to find a treasure map to find them.
That’s fucking hilarious
Honestly, I thought he was being sarcastic. Thanks for confirming lol!
The fact that Matt Bennett said there was an episode with “The Weeknd” but he was underground until 2013 and wasn’t mainstream until 2015 I found it unlikely
I've never seen him in anything outside of Victorious, but I thought that was probably the case. I was surprised Quinton didn't bring it up as a possibility!
I’ve always loved Matt Bennett to be real
The amount of times andre should’ve got a record deal or they alluded to it and jus forgot the next episode is crazy
he never got a record deal because, as a minor, his grandmother won't allow it.
1) she makes unreasonable demands on his behalf, making the deal "not worth it"
2) she's afraid of losing Andre. she wants to keep him at home, not famous, with her.
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@@PyrokineticFire1 where did you get this?
@@salp.5882 made it up. non-canonical.
do you have a better reason/idea why? please share it; this comment section would probably enjoy it.
@@PyrokineticFire1 at least you were honest
The fact that I’m one hour in with Tori’s story “done” and there’s 7 more hours in this video is terrifying
Same lmao
You seem to have forgotten that there's a little something called "The conspiracy board."
He rambles a bunch don't worry
Dude I read your comment, checked the timestamp, saw 8:05:01 and let out and audible "fuck" right here at work.
if we ever get a victorious reboot i want them to elaborate on that damn "playing pirates" joke. i KNOW it's a molestation joke but MY ideal interpretation is that robbie just really, REALLY likes historically accurate pirate roleplay, including things like descriptions of ship-borne illnesses, and various torture methods, but cat just wanted to put on pirate hats and hit robbie with a fake sword over and over. so she doesn't like how he plays pirates because she gets freaked out by his grossly detailed story about dying of scurvy
Well... I mean... Robbie being really into historically accurate pirate roleplay would still make the molestation joke work because pirates and the whole... y'know..
That actually makes more sense considering when the pirate joke is first brought up, cat says she wishes they could talk like pirates and play pirate. Cause it seems odd she'd say that after supposedly being molested under the guise of "playing pirate"
“Take a Hint” is probably the best song on the show because it WASNT written for the show, it was originally by Meghan Kabir and Nickelodeon bought the rights to it
That explains so much, i was so confused why it was so good lmao
But best friends brother was so good
@@phucbich7581 best friends brother is a bop, but I can’t listen to it because My sister played it while I was asleep and having a nightmare. Now it’s just the background music to all of my nightmares. I wish I were joking
So I thought about what the “hey” in the song is supposed to be censoring. According to the rhyme structure, it’s “nips”
Why
@@stonearmor booba
Honestly, a better running joke about Trina, rather than just 'she sucks at everything,' would've been that she's really talented, but only at things she doesn't care about, or when she's not trying to be. Some examples to get my point across:
-Trina and Tori are trying out for the cheerleading team. Tori gets in because she's perfect at everything, but Trina doesn't. She angrily kicks the ball and walks away, not seeing that she's scored a field goal all the way across the entire stadium. The coach tries to get her to try out for football, but she was only interested in the cheerleading part.
-Trina is trying to audition for the school; she is trying to sing a pop song, and completely botching it. The faculty all tell her she sucks, to which to gives an impromptu, passionate monologue about how they're all jerks who don't know anything and how she's struggled to get here, and that wows them so much they let her in on the spot.
-Some kind of art class. Everyone is painting portraits, and Trina is doing terribly. She gets fed up, just throws a bunch of stuff on the canvas, and storms out. An Art Guy™ shows up and immediately begins praising such a well made abstract expression of pure rage, asking who made such an incredible piece. Tori takes credit because she's a terrible person.
I'm not sure what Tori you are talking about because she'd never take credit for something she didn't do.🤨
I agree with everything but the very last sentence. Tori's character would literally never do that, Trina's would but not Tori.
Ok, I may hate Tori, but she would never do that.
I actually think Tori would take credit, especially if she knew it was Trina’s work. They hate Trina, and sometimes pretty undeserved. That last part about the art reminded me of SpongeBob, when Squidward gets in raged, and trash is the art room, but makes the most beautiful sculptor the critic had ever seen.
@@brandonkennedy4160 Tori absolutely WOULD NOT take credit for something she didn't do!
One thing the Slap segments really illustrate is how deeply, deeply uncomfortable so much of this show's humor is when you remove the laugh track. Beck and Jade's fights make my skin crawl. They make me want to leave the room. The Slap humor surrounding Robbie either makes me feel really bad for him, or it makes me want to remove him from this mortal coil with my own two hands. The only exception to this is Sinjin, who somehow gets exponentially funnier when everything he says is buffeted by long periods of uncomfortable silence.
It’s honestly bizarre that so much of this was allowed in a children’s show with underage actors.
@@kenzarty5999 thats what happens when the producers (he who shall not be named) is the one who wants the bizzare things to happen
Idk how they thought a realistically annoying abusive couple would be entertaining to watch
Sinjin works even better because his humor is mostly based on being weird and somewhat cringe, so the silence amplifies that
@@Inactivechannel-r6 Guess it depends on the person watching humor is subjective.
I feel bad for Quinton because he will never experience the joy I feel at turning this video on for the 7th time
me with this whole series
@@L1am4M4t3 SAMEEEE! This series is a comfort watch for me and i've watched it wayyyy too many times to count😂(Then again, I'm neurodivergent and i like researching/hearing excessive detailed things about topics i know nothing or close to nothing about, this was bound to happen😂😂)
Currently on my 3rd marathon of this series lmao
To add on that Trina reboot idea is not only she’s a mom and love by her husband but also a successful working woman. She would really shine just because she stop being around people who don’t appreciate her.
I’d like to think in this scenario, she really worked hard on workshopping Chicago and it made it to broadway and she’s like Lin Manuel Miranda level famous
@@nasawantsuback she changed it from a one-woman show to a really interesting piece about the abuse of the industry/family structures, but still with the known plot beats, so it's not a new show, it's just deeper
I'd like a running gag of everyone knowing who Trina is, liking Trina and referring to Tori as "Trina's sister"... Like Tori goes to "generic coffee shop" and when they ask her name she says "Tori" and when they call her the cup says "Trina's sister"
Wait, wouldn't she be like 23?
@@PumaArg the show premiered while I was in middle school and I’m currently 24, she would not be 23
honesty Jade in the break up episode saying “but all boyfriends and girlfriends fight A LOT, right?” like that’s genuinely sad. she actually thinks that her toxic relationship is normal while everyone else is trying to tell her it’s not. whether intentional or not, she has the subtle mindset of a child raised in a really scary home life.
I think that’s why a lot of us could relate to and loved jade in a way we wish someone had loved us :)
Oh wow this is actually.. really sad.
Also that Jade hides her emotions and expresses her love in anger. Meaning that she does like Tori but the only way to show is by mistreating her. Also that she only allows Tori & Beck to touch her and doesn't get mad about it
@@Maurisneezed01 im more terrified about how so many of you saw such a toxic relationship as wholesome like wtf
@@JustCallMeTats they didnt even say that
Actually, the fact that Jade watched the livestream of Beck and Tori till the end and didn’t turned it off after they leaned in for a kiss makes me very glad. I’m so so so tired of this annoying plot device when there is some love triangle or similar stuff and one character leaves too soon or doesn’t listen till the end and then there’s a huge brawl caused by a simple misunderstanding. So, the writers managed to do something great, good for them ig
Yeah, that’s one of my least favorite tropes. I hate when the entire plot could be wrapped up via a 5-minute conversation.
But instead every time they get the chance they just go “wait… no… it’s not like that… c’mon… you’re being ridiculous…” etc.
Ugh I really wanted to turn it off! I didn't want to see Tori kiss Beck. LIKE WHAT THE HELL BECK?!
They just need to be poly and all date each other, problem solved
@@jaelin124 ...
That's actually not a bad idea. But I'm doing it because I want to.
@jazzcl7 Hi
As a teen/pre-teen all of this definitely went over my head but as an adult, I have so much empathy for Ariana and Victoria, they were certainly the main targets of someone's (we absolutely do not know who's) fetishes.
What are you talking about his name is █████████
That gross sob makes me ashamed of my liking toward you know what.
Those poor kids probably had no idea and it's a real bother
@@orangegradient4309 Dan Schneider, yes
@@maouliamediaofficial Huh? Your comment isn't loading properly. I'm guessing you're talking about #########
@@Niagaranobs you guessed correctly. I am in fact talking about DAN SCHNEIDER
Trina brought them tacos. She also always supports Sinjin's endeavors. And she once drove to Bakersfield from LA (after school, mind you, so with traffic) to retrieve the solvent for the industrial glue. They repay her kindness by mentally and emotionally torturing her over the possibility of the guys wanting to date her. This group doesn't deserve Trina.
Trina and Tori actually kinda remind me of my sis and I when we were young. We were always competing and fighting with each other (I didn’t realize I had depression at the time so I was really hostile and she liked to make me mad, her words lol) but these days we’re really close and have talked everything out. Even back then, we would do stuff like Trina did FOR Tori. I hope in this world of victorious after they graduated and got time away from each other, they both realized they were being jerks to each other and made amends. That’s my personal headcanon.
@@raicrush ppl rly leave no opportunity out to trauma dump 💀
@@itsbritneybitch420 how did they trauma dump 2:21:53
Justice for Trina
@@itsbritneybitch420 I’m too poor for therapy
I love when Jade is listing how or why everyone in the squad isn’t her friend, she doesn’t mention Andre. He just vibes we all want an Andre in our lives.
love that guy
Everyone wants to be Andre
It makes it kinda sad too cause that means everyone only hangs with her cause she’s dating Beck
@@sketchyjulia But she still hangs around during the episodes where they've broken up
Um no, Andre should have been given a personality and better plot lines. He wasn’t interesting at all.
i met victoria justice once! she had this random signing at a random shopping mall in brazil, i think it was 2012? i was maybe 13 and spoke very broken english. anyway, we were only allowed to get one autograph from her, but i went up to her and explained as best as i could that i had a friend who lived far away who loved her but couldn't make it, and if she could sign an extra pic for said friend. she was like "of course i can! that is so sweet of you!" she had to get up and ask someone from her team for an extra pic, because we were all only given one to sign. anyway, somewhere someplace i have an autograph from victoria justice, my friend has hers that i mailed to her and i have the memory of her just being so nice and warm to me
That is sweet as hell
man, that's so sweet.
Holy cow she actually did it. She came to brazil.
awww that’s adorable
que sorte!!! que fofo.
i think the reason people feel like Beck and Jade are a good couple is bc Beck is just such an aggressively good friend (protecting Cat from the earthquake, letting Tori spit in his hands, knowing to bring Robbie a watermelon) that people kind of forget he's repeatedly shown to be a bad boyfriend (is obtuse or passive aggressive when he knows jade is upset or jealous, doesnt set boundaries with other girls like when he drove half a dozen girls that he knew liked him to school, always flirting with tori *bc* he knows it annoys jade, etc.,). like its the epitome of the "cool guy" and the significant other who feels forced to play the "cool girl" who doesnt care and if she does then she's ruining the fun. my personal belief has always been that Jade sees Tori as a threat to their relationship bc Beck *allows* tori to *be* a threat. he never sets proper boundaries with her after they kiss for a class after knowing each other 2 days & then she's suddenly in the friend group? id hate her too if i was jade. (also i dont think enough people realize that Tori kissed someone else's boyfriend TWICE! KNOWINGLY!! (no wonder cat and jade bond lol))
a+ take
i feel like theres a lot more content of him being a good bf than a bad one. he has always gotten unwarranted attention and thats not always the receivers fault. jade had some serious jealousy issues on her own, it wasnt at all always jades fault. only thing i can say about beck is that wanted something different that wasn’t jade but still for some reason decided to be with her. which…..is not okay.
Overall, Jade and Beck are both extremely petty and aren’t rly a good match for anyone with their mindsets 😭
@@b1xssom838or maybe that makes them perfect for each other. In my experience toxic/slightly f’d/however you want to put it type of people tend to end up with each other because they’re the only ones that will put up with the bs. You ever notice snobs, cheaters, manipulators, bipolars, etc. tend to end up together? Not always obviously but very often.
@@accidentalmadness1708 the fact that toxic people are sometimes attracted to other toxic people doesn't mean that their toxic relationships are ideal...???
also i'm pretty confused that you listed people with bipolar disorder along 'snobs, cheaters, and manipulators.' three out of those four are mutable traits that can be changed if someone is willing to work on themselves; the other is an incurable disorder. weird of you.
The part where Sinjin basically tells them all off and calls them out on their behaviours is so weirdly vindicating to me??
Oh yeah, that scene slaps
is there a timestamp or episode name?
@@leokliesenhoney it was a theoretical ending
It's one of the most satisfying takedowns I've ever witnessed. The quiet kid finally snaps and tells off everyone who treated them like shit. One of my favorite tropes for sure.
Sinjin is the best character oh my god
Not gonna lie, Sinjin''s "Gentlemen, start your Sinjins" line always gets me cackling.
I simply require a time stamp friend I’m 2 hours in
@D's Animation Yard 💙
Get in the shinja shinjin (ugh this is stupid)
I thought for a while that the show was making fun of the way British people pronounced "St. John", like he was from some fancy aristocratic family and his full name was "St. John Van Cleef", but it turns out no, his full name is just two World of Warcraft references.
and may the best sinjin win
I think Trina as an adult in the reboot should be like The Rock. An action star known for her comedic chops and charisma who's infinitely more famous than any of her old classmates
This is now my headcanon thanks
Additional headcanon that she never gave up trying to sing, went through a lot of vocal training and a lot of voice teachers, and eventually did the thing the Rock did where he got one solo song in Moana, like Trina eventually stars in like one kids movie musical and that’s just on her résumé
Yeah, like she really is all the things she believed she was but once she becomes it and isn't tied to her family anymore we see how not only is she super talented, she's also incredibly nice and well deserving of her accomplishments because she's had to literally work from the bottom to the top on her own.
@@Samuel-ku1qb I LOVE THOSE HOUR LONG GOOD FAITH CRITICIM'S!!
So excuse the well-meant Randomness when i recommend my fellow Quinton-Simps
the hour-long Videos of Jay Exci on Doctoer Who,
the stuff that Mavocate did for The Flash and basically Hbomberguys whole channel anyway,
but especially his Essays baout RWBY and Sherlock. Oh and just in general: much stuff people made about High Guardian Spice.
No need to thank me for these Watch-Suggests... no, really, i dont need your thanks, i want youre money. Send payment for this comment. Now.
I think like the rock she should also at one point be a pro wrestler or pro martial arts champion
The canon explanation to Trina getting in literally just being that Sikowitz was _tripping balls_ is so fucking funny to me
My personal head cannon is that Trina, Singen and Birf have their own friend group after high school and talk about how awful the main cast were. Trina has someone who actually loves her, and Birf and Singin are still vibes.
Sinjin* Berf*
@@arlo_slater9009 shhh no one needs to know I can’t spell-
Imagining Birf and Singen becoming cult classic movie producers and Trina as their friend is in a bunch of them
@@poprocks6576 they’d probably make weird little indie projects that a niche audience really like, Singin comes up with ideas and Berf does all the technical stuff.
@@arlo_slater9009 its actually burf lmao /nm
I have now watched over 13.5 hours of this guy talking about Victorious, a kids TV show that I myself never watched. And you know what? Worth it. I have no idea *why* it's worth it, couldn't tell you to save my life, but it is!
Same and same with iCarly
I will probably rewatch someday that’s the real FUCKED up part of this
@@dysmissme7343 i could watch it for the first time and recognize it solely because ive seen this series.
@@dysmissme7343 I was so willing to rewatch the first episode too, but then I realised I had 8 hours to get through
@@dysmissme7343 probably? I have ALREADY rewatched the icarly one
Your take on Jade not only believing climate change but being in favour of it, delivered so straight-faced, nearly made me spit out my hot chocolate.
I hope it was good hot chocolate and tasty
@@Miss_Akashiya it was pretty good, but i drank it way too soon and burned my tongue :(
Did you make that hot chocolate with water or milk? 😑
@@terriblefrisbee744 water, we didn't have enough milk left
@@marys.9367 so u lied when u said its pretty good 😠
2:43:05 okay, after watching the last Sam and Kat video where Quinton went over Jennette's book, hearing Robbie/Matt Bennet sing about not trusting strangers who eat deli meat, when Jennette said Dan Schneider's favorite snack was cold cuts... well it stands out.
The part where Kat is trying to envision herself being safe under her bed with a laugh track over it really is wild. Like actual writers got together and thought of this?
There’s so many moments like that where something that should be serious is happening but the show makes a joke out of it
I mean, it was basically the same scene as the one in Icarly where Sam and her mom fight in the booth as Carly experiences a panic attack due to being in a closed space.
Yeah, it’s sad that moments like these get written off as a joke, “oh look at this person who’s experience a panic so severe they pass out, isn’t that just silly? Hilarious even? No? Well what if we put a laugh track over it?”
That was pretty shocking. They wrote an obvious sign of serious abuse in as a punch line? Are you fucking with me? They could have kept the same bad joke but gone with something more ambiguous like "going to my happy place." Instead they paint us a picture of a scared little Kat curled up in the fetal position, rocking back and forth under her bes as the sounds of obvious domestic violence takes place in the next room. Frankly, I would have just assumed it was a mix of Autism, ADHD, and a low Intellect. But nope, turns out Kat is just developmentally stunted as a result of horrific domestic abuse. *Cue laugh track*
Sometimes it feels like the writers are trying to re-live their teen years in a world where they are the mean kids.
Suggestion for fixing Trina's whole weird treatment. Make her a stunt woman. She is a martial artist, and stunt acting would be a believable reason for her to be in Hollywood Arts. Also it would mean all the injuries she gets could be hand waved away as her just being able to take a hit or knowing how to avoid getting properly hurt even in sudden circumstances. Also it would add a good source of rivalry between the sisters because Trina could be the tough one who kinda bullies Tori a bit. Lastly, she can still want to be a singer and all that, and her story could be more about realising her talents lie elsewhere - but are still fucking cool
I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT IDEA
YES
This is actually so smart holy shit
Somebody got their sleep.
Do stunt doubles tie into the “Hollywood” part? Yes. But does it tie into the “arts” part? Not really. Sure there could maybe be an argument for that but it typically wouldn’t be considered a creative art which means art schools wouldn’t accept them.
Edit: some of you guys seem to be misunderstanding what exactly in saying to fit the theory being presented. Because sure it can be considered an art, but stunt doubling being in an arts school _is_ a stretch, I’ve never seen any arts school have this as a course or have been a qualifier to get into an arts school.
We never talked about how Liz Gillies was almost certainly groomed on this show when she was a minor. She was 16 when the show began and was introduced to the Victorious music composer Michael Corcoran, who was nearly 40 at the time. They didn't "officially date" until shortly after she turned 18, but... it's clear what's happened here. The rumors about Schneider are one thing (and are probably also true), but Liz Gillies being groomed at the age of 16 for a man far, far older than she is definitely happened.
Wow never knew this
I assume this is going to be in the Dan Schenider video Quinton is working on
and they're still married...fucking hell
OMG YES! While MAYBE nothing suspicious happened, to be a 40yo interesting in someone BAREY legal is extremely suspicious.
If they were dating for ~6 years before she got married, she would have been 20 when they started dating, no?
Jades reaction to Sinjin's sock puppet thing is so kind compared to how she is usually presented in the shows. She tries to show and reason with Sinjin why what he is doing is wrong instead of blowing up and cussing him out like she would with, say, Robbie or Tori.
She had every right to be creeped out and call him names, instead she grabs him by the hand, looks him in the eye and says "hey, this isn't ok." which is wild.
She is surprisingly gentle but firm about it which is very mature. She just tries to get him to look at her so she knows he's taking in what she's saying and just tells him in a soft but assertive tone "this is not right" and an "okay?" So she can confirm he understands. Granted I see that more with kids that are elementary and middle school age but considering how completely ashamed and terrified he presents I think that was pretty appropriate
I find it incredibly wholesome that while working on such a mediocre and mean spirited show, the cast formed life long friendships that have continued to endure in the almost decade since they wrapped production. A lot of show’s when they end the cast members inevitably drift apart and I just take this immense joy in the fact the actors became this closely knit group that is almost the exact opposite to how they were presented in the show.
It kinda makes sense though. Like, imagine being that age and playing these awful people, singing and dancing and pretending to be jerks. That sounds fun as hell.
@@slevinchannel7589 what’s your PayPie?
Did you just fucking dare to fucking call fucking Victorious "Mediocre"? :D
*D i d y o u ?*
_DID YOU?!_
@@slevinchannel7589 there is indeed "no need to thank you," because nobody finds it endearing that you use multiple accounts to spam barely coherent copied-and-pasted rants like this on multiple channels, including quinton's, while mouthing off to the people who rightly tell you that you're being an unhinged freak
only surprise now is you arent just randomly insulting the channels and their viewers like you usually do, but come on, man. just stop
@@cakeisyummy5755
It's easier to say that "weird af"
Actually regarding the gang being friends, Jade says that she doesn't like Tori, no one likes Trina, she only tolerates Robbie and that Cat is basically a pet. She doesn't mention Andre, implying that she does view him as a friend.
Or doesn't think about him at all
Jade is high key a toxic friend and it's concerning that a lot of fans do think of her highly
@@Rougealienpirate honestly didn't remember her being so mean, as well as the other characters... when i watched the first quinton's video i was amazed to find that out
@@Rougealienpirate yeah everyone acts like she’s this ultra relatable person. If you relate to Jade you are the toxic friend in your group. She was designed to be a total bitch.
They think of Jade highly because she’s hot and they want her to step on them. That’s literally it.
"either jade has feelings for tori or she wants to kill tori" it's both
Exactly
I'm not admitting to anything.
kismiesis
she wants to kill tori *because* she has feelings for tori.
has this guy ever MET a lesbian?
Listen Quinton, I just sat through 10 hours of your voice and opinions and thoughts. Which now means we have a parasocial friendship and my friends do NOT call themselves ugly 😤
My personal headcanon for Trina was that since it was established in the show that she did martial arts, she would eventually realise that she didn't need to try to be a musician or actress like everyone else in Hollywood arts but eventually became a sought after stunt coordinator in Hollywood and because of this whereas in the show, every guy seemed repulsed by her, now all the himbos and gymbros were fighting over her. But I like the bachelor ending too
I love that!
My new headcanon is that she became a Pro Wrestler. Just the right mix of having stage presence, over acting AND being able to cordinate a fight well enough that it looks real? PERFECT for Trina.
@@avantikashaha7959 Being a Pro Wrestler is kinda a shitty job though
@@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 casual alert
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 Shitty pay, permanent brain damage, what's not to love!
“The Victorious fandom seems to have a version of Victorious that exists exclusively in their own minds.” That’s pretty common in fandoms, in my experience, especially fandoms for media that’s noticeably flawed. Some of them even drop the pretense and have people doing complete ground up rewrites all over the place. A show gives people something that sparks an idea in their heads, and they like the idea it sparked better than the thing itself, but the thing is what made the spark so they keep it attached to the thing.
This reminds me of the Grey's Anatomy community. Some of them are soooo convinced that Cristina was a bad friend to Meredith despite the show always showing the opposite. They just actively choose to ignore all the scenes and plots that proved Cristina was a ride or die for her because they really want to believe she was a bad friend.
Literally mlb. Like why does everyone think Alya will side with Lila and start bullying Marinette and be like physically abusive and shit? Just because Lila said she'd steal all of Marinette's friends doesn't mean that she'll actually succede. Like, Alya is such a supportive friend in cannon, she might fall for some of Lila's lies, but she doesn't immediately abandon Marinette or side with Lila over Marinette. She was one of the first people who stood up for her when Lila almost got her expelled. People need to stop hating on Alya. Sorry, this went on a complete tangent, my point was that the MLB fandom does this too.
greetings from Danny Phantom!
Voltron Legendary Defender is the greatest example of this
I come from the Ben 10 community. The Ben 10 we have in our heads is awful. Don't watch it. Watch the real show instead.
I like the idea of them meeting back up for Sikowitz's funeral only because I want them to give heartfelt ullages about how he was so importantly to the development of their careers only for him to bust out of the coffin at the very end revealing that he isn't dead and was just fucking with them.
eulogies, the plural form of eulogy.
I'm a bit late, but I like the idea of it being the catalyst for the reboot being a kind of "redemption arc" for the gang. Like, Sikowitz' will explicitly calls them his favorite students and that he's disappointed they didn't become the people he wanted them to be, and leaves them this road trip scavenger hunt-esque puzzle that's written like his lessons. It takes them around to finally learn about his history, his rise and fall that left him a depressed school teacher, and it teaches them lessons about themselves and where they went wrong in their lives and how to fix it.
Also Trina and Sinjin are the ones happy with their lives
that does sound like something sikowitz would do
Like The Big Chill, but a comedy!
@@BeesechurgerProductions The reboot is perfect representation of people who peaked in highschool struggle in the real world and other students who didn't succeed in high school improve themselves as time goes on
Beck's actor having been hung over for all pf Victorious is te type of thing that really changes your perspective on rewatch.
I barely watched victorious live, but “Take a Hint” is genuinely a bop. And you’re right about the toxicity of Beck and Jade, BUT Jade’s whole vibe definitely awakened something in me when I was younger.
Wasn't Jade's favorite movie The Scissoring or something-
@@randomtraveler4149 it was.
@@randomtraveler4149 no more need to be said...
@@randomtraveler4149 yes 💀
@@randomtraveler4149 niiiiiiiiice 😎
Cat being homeless for an undisclosed but considerable amount of time is honestly such a developing piece of her character that is so overlooked because no one expected victorious to have lore that deep.
What timestamp?
@@animebolt6915 6:55:51 6:58:53
@@PepsiEnthusiast thank you 🙏🏻
cat is a fetishized attempt at producing a Phoebe Buffay copy
@@sunshine-mh3iiwait this actually tracks omg
The storyline about beck faking being interested in in trina really broke me because I had something similar happen to me. Not to that scale if course but this really pretty guy pretended to be interested in me and asked for my number. You have no idea how amazing this made me feel, I was on cloud nine. I was so insecure about myself that the idea of a guy being interested in me was a fantasy but now it finally happened. (It was especially exciting because they’re weren’t many other gay guys in the area ) I was so happy that someone finally liked me that I ignored all the red flags. This guy was one of the popular kids, he played football, he hung out with people that I knew for a fact where homophobic, but I was so oblivious to it. It was to good to be true! And it wasn’t. He eventually blew his cover when I actually started texting him and as soon as I realized it was a joke my heart shattered and I felt the same way trina did. Extremely insecure, no one could ever like me and no one ever will. It’s so screwed up that a middle school boy can traumatize someone like that in the matter of a week. I felt so stupid to ever believe anyone would like me.
In short: DO NOT under any circumstances fake liking someone because it can cause so much damage.
didn't she go around lying about him liking her tho?
@@ShaiLailm so sorry that happened to you. But wasn’t Trina going around telling beck and her were a thing tho
@@ShaiLaiYeah. And after he JUST broke up with his long time girlfriend.
@@arttech4347 because she was lying about him
Same here, I had something similar happen to me, also in middle school. When you already have low self-esteem and you get built up by someone gaslighting you like that it can REALLY mess with you. To this day I have a hard time believing that I'm actually worthy of love or even a good person, all because someone used me for their own amusement in that way. I would've preferred a flatout rejection rather than finding out I was being lied to for so long, and in the worst way possible too (got added to the vent group chat as joke because everyone had just finished making fun of me).
Albeit in the episode Trina started spreading the rumor that Beck was interested in her, but the hurt still stands. Trina gets gaslit and the gang goes back to emotionally abusing and manipulating her.
It is absolutely ridiculous how nickelodeon would make jokes about Trina/ Daniella Monet being ugly when she is clearly not in Victorious and then in Grow Up Timmy Turner she's now the "hot girl" character when she looks the same. It also continues the whole "conventionally unattractive people are bad people" stereotype.
I mean… I think it’s more “pretty girly girls are bad people” because it’s always the nlog that’s plain looking and “she wears short skirts, I wear T-Shirts” type girls that always gets the guy.
But anyways, it really was stupid for them to pretend that she wasn’t really attractive.
Definitely. They didn't even make any effort to make her look any less attractive than the other girls! But even if we talk about "ugly on the inside" she doesn't qualify. Her biggest flaw is overestimating her talent? She's not a bitch like jade or a bimbo like Kat, which are normally the two "she's hot but I'll pass" girls in TV shows. She's an attractive girl who is annoying. Her character is a failure of the writing mantra "Show, don't tell" they told us she was terrible, but showed us nothing to support it. Even irl Tori Justice shipped her with THE HOT PRINCE in her headcannon, so we know the actors saw this as an issue too.
If they used a girl who was actually considered unattractive by beauty standards then people today would’ve considered it bullying and Victorious would’ve been looked down upon as a series. So of course they use someone attractive. I think they tried to allude to the fact that Trina was unattractive because of her personality not because of her facial features.
It’s the same thing with Drake and Josh. Josh was supposed to be considered “unattractive” because he was overweight. But when he lost all the weight he became significantly more attractive to women so instead of using his outside features they continued to make him really awkward, whiny, nerdy etc. so that Drake still seemed like the “cooler brother.” A similar formula was used on Zack and Cody.
I wonder if was Trina supposed to be the “ugly” one because she’s got petite as the other women? I’m Not saying she’s big
i know it throws people off, but actors interpreting uglier characters that they actually are it's pretty common
im glad you mentioned trina’s martial arts ability bc after it came up it stuck in my mind that she was actually excelling in the school as a stunt coordinator/fight choreographer but everyone ignored that bc she’s so adamant abt being a good singer and actor. anyway im gonna pretend the canon is simply not canon
They way this show did the Trina character was just wrong lmao
@@Mikayla_Games24 Trina was awesome nobody can tell me anything
Right she may not be a talented performer but she has all the qualifications, creativity and delusion of an amazing director, producer, and choreography/fight coordinator like you said- we need a Trina spinoff of her working in the industry post grad👏😭😂
@@buhhhla222 totally agree victorious sucks in that regard not enough relevancy or depth for characters for example I watch a series known as dynasty that feature Liz gillies and there she has more background history more depth more interesting sub plots more character liberties and freedoms with cursing and what not and much more relatability
@@buhhhla222 Omg, a Trina spinoff would be the best. Like the iCarly reboot they should be taking notes from the fans lol
It’s insane how hard this show tried to convince people Trina was ugly
It's that "she's got a round face she can't possibly be hot" thing that really gets me
@@elenabloksberg212 also she was more curvy than the other girls and i think that contributed to a lot of it too
The character is ugly. The actress who plays her is beautiful
@@yeoisa which is crazy because now the beauty standards changed so much that her curves would be celebrated even back then they should’ve been
It was admittedly tough to suspend my disbelief because Daniella Monet is gorgeous.
something you didn’t mention was Liz Gilles dating and eventually marrying a producer on victorious. She was 18 when they first “officially” started dating and he was 38. She was 16/17 when the show first started though. It’s really sad to see such a blatant case of grooming.
And THEN you remember that bit in the Slap video about Cat and Jade telling a bedtime story, where Jade includes the detail that the princess met a man on a dating site who turned out to be 37. Hmmm, what a specific number, I wonder where they got it from.
Omg you just blew my mind with this 😳
Yet Liz Gillies is still married to him, meaning that she must still like him.
@greywolf7577 and yet you still don't understand what happens when someone is groomed.
Do you honestly think they have to be held against their will or something for it to be abuse?
@@greywolf7577 not exactly, there was a lot going on behind the scenes as you know , for her it was kinda like protection, she knew” I shouldn’t be with this man, he’s too old for me“ but she also knew if she stayed with him, it protected her from the other predators on set
I was a background actor (shrugger) on quite a few episodes of both iCarly and Victorious. Your info at 5:38:38 is all accurate. Yes, that is exactly where the Asphalt Cafe scenes were filmed, and the glass doors you see in those scenes are literally the front doors that the background actors used every shoot. Was it for the Hollywood sign shot? Maybe, but it was also super convenient to shoot there, as often one day of filming would be able to cover a wide range of scenes (inside the school, Asphalt Cafe, ect) without wasting too much time going between locations for shooting.
Also to add, typically the noise was not TOO bad as the outdoor scenes were usually done in the morning after rush hour. I remember a police/ambulance siren would cause a few seconds of delay in between takes, but that was a rather infrequent occurrence.
Glad to see someone who was there telling stories about it!
Did you all call yourself shruggers on set or was it just a joke in the script?
What was the origin of Burf Defect?
I like that Shrugger is the specific Role
hope they paid you well
What ive learned from watching all of Quinton’s Nickelodeon content is that Daniella Monet was WAY better than any of the other actors and actresses in any of these sitcoms and yet she was getting ALL the worst vehicles: Fred, Timmy Turner movies, and comedic relief in Victorious.
Zoey 101 it was before this and he hasn't covered it, but she played the jealous new girlfriend of one of the characters
@@patax144 I now remember that. It feels like in the same way they made Victorious to make Victoria Justice a singer seemingly ignorant to having Ariana Grande RIGHT THERE, they kept trying to cast girls to be the likable quirky lead of their shows and then going “gah what should we do with Daniella its not like thats exactly her wheel house”
Character acting like that is actually a really difficult skill and so undervalued honestly
Update as I continue this video: everytime Quinton gives a new detail about Trina I just feel worse and worse for this character and that combines with me feeling sympathetic for Daniella that she was stuck being Dan Schneider's punching bag and honestly I cant keep straight what parts are me feeling for Daniella and what parts are me feeling for Trina. I almost wanna watch the show just to see if Trina is as sympathetic when I have to sit through her antics
@@Agumame Trina is really only sympathetic when analyzed in an objective context entirely separate from the show.
If you watch the show, you'll probably find her to be extremely annoying.
Honestly I really do think Sinjin is an accurate portrayal of the creative kids at school and he's the only one that is really accurate in that portrayal. Like I would say Sinjin is the only character in this show I would look at and say that I can actually relate because in a way he was the creative theatre kid at school who was definitely way more fun to be around and the production ending is something I agree with Quinton on, it is such a befitting ending that the real theatre kid in the show who was a punching bag for the others pointed out how they failed, I think the only thing that could've maybe been a better ending is "Trina actually proves to have talent," but because the other kids can't see past her being a little bit annoying and maybe a tiny bit cringy, they weren't able to see that she was actually a talented person, it's just her trauma was holding her back because really sometimes trauma can do that.
I throw Andre in there too because everyone has met a character like that in life
Like a cool dude that Genuinely don’t really hear people complain about ever
But 100% Sinjin was a real one
Yeah I was in theatre in high school and I definitely knew a few Sinjins
He’s also a huge pervert sometimes but apart from that yeah
I’m surprised everyone in the comments likes sinjin. Re-watching it he’s kinda annoying and very weird towards the girls and in general
I like to imagine that both Sinjin and Trina were actually really popular and well-liked at hollywood arts, and the main cast were just too self-centered to notice
“Don’t trust strangers, don’t you know, even if you met them a long time ago” is honestly so real.
This is going to be my first ever 8h youtube video that I'll watch. Wish me luck yall, and god bless you, Quinton, for making this much content for us😂
Bro im 6 hours through, its incredible
same here i go 😂🙏
It's the perfect length because when the video ends so does my shift at work.
@@silveryin4341 where do you work that lets you listen to RUclips videos 😭 I’m genuinely asking bc I wanna quit my job so bad and find something better LMAO
@@gabrielabrook I work in security as someone who wears plain clothes and stuff. Tbh the only part of that job that's even remotely cool or good is I can watch videos to look casual. So I dont think I can help much sorry.
I honestly feel so bad for both Tori and Trina.
Their parents neglect both of them, and it's implied that this has been going on for their entire lives. Trina likely got told to look after Tori, which made her resent her sister. That's why the writers try to make it seem like Trina is so mean to Tori, and that's also the reason Tori doesn't like Trina. They both wanted the same thing, and both felt like the other got in the way. They tried to tear one another down at every turn to "win" their parents affection, and their parents did nothing about it. The worst part is that they never got what they wanted, which probably fueled the fire.
I think that Trina tried in more flashy ways to get their parents attention, and that's why they don't love her. Tori, in the pilot, seemed like the type to suffer silently to get her parent's attention. Maybe getting good grades, or cleaning her room better, doing dishes, cooking, etc- quiet activities. But then Trina had her accident at the stage show, and the crowd loves her.
Their parents started tolerating Tori because they started seeing more potential. They see a chance to get famous by association, when they don't give a shit if either of their daughters have their basic needs met. They care about them shutting their mouths and leaving them alone. It doesn't matter if they have nothing to eat. It doesn't matter if they get mouth surgery and are in massive pain. It doesn't matter if they need their parents guidance and god forbid if they want to hang out with their parents.
They don't give a shit about their kids and that's why they're so fucked up. They're both need a lot of ✨therapy✨
I didn't really watch much Victorious (especially after the first season or two) and how the parents are written absolutely blows my mind. Like... why exactly did they think writing an affair into a kids show was a good call? And that scene where Tori's mom just straight up eats all the food in the house and tells Tori to starve... like who does that??? Do the writers have some mommy issues they're trying to work through???
Tori and Trina's parents are the worst parents on Earth. They should be reported for child neglect.
@@suicune95 I think it's an outgrowth of a gag from Drake and Josh, where their dad is a weatherman whose rival is an extremely handsome weatherman. Megan is obsessed with the handsome rival weatherman, and while I don't think the mom is implied to be unfaithful, she does acknowledge that he's good looking.
So the Victorious version of that is meaner, edgier, and probably a punishment to David's actor for quitting the show.
As for why halfway through the show Tori's mom becomes a terrible person, I think the writers just thought that was funny. For a Watsonian explanation, maybe Tori turning out to have talent led to her parents deciding they didn't have to put as much effort into taking care of her, as she can take care of the family now.
@@breadeater1194 "the writers just thought it was funny" is the true reason behind everything. They didn't put thought into these characters or relationships beyond "it's funny." Like how Trina's parents hate her. It's "funny" because we don't like Trina. The fact that it usually isn't funny for parents to hate their children never even came to mind
sinjin’s obsession with jade is referenced quite a lot actually. from offhand remarks to sinjin implied to have broken into jade’s house during the plane episode when sinjin joins the facetime call
i dont know why this doesnt have any replies but exactly! i didnt watch the slap but i very much remember sinjins crush on jade, so it was deffo a thing in the actual show. dont know how quinton didnt notice
@@roachno.24 he probably consumed and analyzed so much victorious content that it mightve missed it
Thank you!
7:50- The Breakfast bunch
16:50- The gorilla Club
20:46- The worst couple
29:22- Andre's Horrible girl
33:07- Car, rain and fire
38:56- Tori and Jade's play date
46:09 - Driving Tori crazy
51:03 - How Trina got in
55:55 - Crazy Ponnie
59:17 - The Blonde Squad
1:00:31 - Tori goes Platinum
1:12:25 - character analysis update
1:44:00 - expanded universe analysis
2:00:21 - The slap prolouge
2:25:00 - The slap overview
2:34:58 - The slap profiles
2:49:49 - The Slap season 1
3:18:44 - The Slap season 2
3:44:08 - The Slap season 3
4:01:47 - The history of Burf De Fect
4:14:45 - The Slap season 4
4:33:55 - Wanko's Warehouse
4:42:51 - The hambone king
4:48:11 - Opposite date
4:52:54 - 3 girls and a moose
4:57:17 - Cell block
5:02:13 - Tori fixes Jade and Beck
5:08:06 - One Thousand Berry Balls
5:14:29 - Things I forgot -10. sinjin dreadlocks
5:16:22 - TIF 9. Justin Bieber
5:21:06- TIF 8. Big Time rush christmas music video
5:22:18 - TIF 7. "Lost" victorious episode
5:32:40 - TIF 6. Ariana Grande Jerry Seinfeld impersonation
5:34:26 - TIF 5. Robbie is related to The Nanny
5:35:45 - TIF 4. Google maps asphalt cafe
5:41:34 - TIF 3. I think we all sing
5:48:43 - TIF 2/1. misc
5:53:17 - Robbie sells Rex
6:00:54 - Bad Roommate
6:05:00 - Brain squeezers
6:11:11 - Shipping of Victorious
6:36:33 - Climate change
6:45:42 - The slap fight
6:52:55 - Star spangled Tori
6:59:25 - Victori-yes
7:05:03 - lack of a finale
7:11:19 - Which episode makes the finale?
7:19:54 - conclusions
7:40:00 - where are they now
This comment needs to be pinned it so helpful
I second that!
U have way to much time on ur hands
"Have you ever fantasized about going on a date with someone and then it really happened?" Dude, no! Of course I haven't! I'm watching an 8 hour video on the second half of the series Victorious! Come on man, don't rub it in okay!
This comment is fantastic
True
Yeah basically
My family: how’s your dating life? Any potential in laws in the picture?
Me: shows them this comment as an answer
my guess for why people regard beck and jade's relationship as wholesome and cute is that it was the first physically affectionate relationship we actually saw on tv. the two are always touching, especially with jade always sitting on beck's lap, and it isn't like most kid's show relationships. most of the characters we saw dating on tv when we were growing up would barely hold hands, they would mostly just kiss on screen. but since beck and jade already have all the same classes and friends, they spend all their time together anyway in a way we just hadn't really seen before. we saw dating as going on occasional dates, so the idea that a relationship could be physically affectionate in ways other than kissing was new and exciting, and it overshadowed all the stuff about them hating each other.
I just tuned out all the abuse and fighting to the point that I forgot about it and convinced myself that they loved each other.
I did the same thing with my parents.
That's a great call. Most of the time you'd only know they're a couple in those shows bc they say they are or the occasional kiss. But most of the time they come across platonic.
Which is kind of funny as teenage couples irl are probably the touchiest. They're constantly on top of each other and are dysfunctional. So jade and beck were pretty realistic when most on these shows aren't.
@@alexcoffey8804 dead 😂
Also if you’re a kid, you may not pick up on how clearly toxic it was for both of them. Because they’re holding hands, hanging out, not cheating on each other. At least that was my definition of “healthy relationship” as a kid
I thought it was sarcasm
The casual mention of Miranda Sings at 1:01:21 caught me off guard. You know that if Quinton made this video more recently that this would be brought up VERY differently.
Well he did reference it in the newest video of this series lol
Why?
@@Niagaranobsshe got in trouble for some bad things she did and then she made the goofiest apology video ever made
@jenniferdenton8601 That wasn't an apology video. She didn't say anything resembling "I'm sorry." That was a "please stop talking about me and my creepy behavior cause it's hurting my career" video.
its even more ironic when you remember that victorious was directed by Dan Schneider
Here's the thing about Victoria's singing. She is a very good singer. It's just not so apparent here because everyone else is not only as good, they're just technically better at singing. The only reason Victoria's songs stand out more is they're built up but her vocals are also always WAY too loud in the mix. As if to say "the only way they'll think she's good is if we just shove her voice to the front and make everything else in the song as dull and repetitive as possible to it doesn't draw any attention away from her vocals.
In fact, Victoria is signed to an independent label and is still releasing new music to this day, and I'll actually admit that it's worth checking out and I can see someone liking her new music. I even really like a few of her songs from the last few years
Idk why but Andre's delivery of "I like sandwiches and hate that plant" KILLS me
he just sounds so genuinely angry its so so good
I’m glad it’s not just me! Such a good line reading
beck and jade's website segments are so viscerally uncomfortable without a laugh track. it feels less like i'm watching a comedy sketch, and more like i'm watching an actual abusive relationship playing out
The final days of a typical RUclips pranks couple channel
ngl I watched this show kinda passively but was a genuine fan of it - I honestly, *honestly* thought that Tori and Andre had some kind of subtextual romantic thing going on. I'm a little surprised that it wasn't actually there. This show really does exist in people's heads more than it exists in real life.
im pretty sure it was only in the first few episodes because i remember thinking they were gonna become a couple aswell
There are a couple of scenes where there is subtext, even if unintentionally. What comes to mind to me is in the diddlybops, where Tori tries to cheer him up, then he writes a love song immediately after she leaves and then it cuts to him singing it to Tori. That isn't as solid as it sounds in context, as the show would go on, it would be common for them to write and sing songs that have nothing thematically to do with what's going on, but I could totally see how someone would look at that scene and think it was meant to suggest a romantic relationship. I'm actually not a Tandre shipper, I'm a Jori shipper, but I think it's odd when some ones says "it only exists in there heads" because that is literally all art. Every piece of art in the world is interpretable, and it's entirely possible that some one else could pick up on a different subtext than you or the next person.
I'm one of the weird people who watched this show all the way through numerous times as an adult, so I never had that problem.
I also imagined it. But like for the first five episodes only
I think it's a case of what I like to call, "First Girl Syndrome": where the first member of the opposite sex on the main cast is usually the character our protagonist ends up with. And unfortunately, it's so pervasive that the audience is basically trained to expect it.
i cant belive you didnt mention the “i cant even tell my own sons apart” “its not your fault they’re identical” from season3 episode 6
theres literally no way matt bennent isnt lying about those 20 lost episodes. he's definitely fucking with us on purpose and i love it
On the one hand: this is very impressive, and you know I'm going to watch every single minute of this 8 hour video.
On the otherhand: Quinton, buddy, are you okay? Do you... Do you need something? Anything? Any crimes you need committing? We can do that. We'll do it for you.
Is this a cult?
@@puflem Quinton cult ,,,, qult?
@@amberruby4896 Culton?
@Ahdri F whatever he needs lol
@@amberruby4896 Qanon if Q wasn’t anon
finding out that Phineas Flynn and Sinjin Van Cleef are not only ROOMMATES, but EXPLICITLY anti-NFT absolutely made my day. Thank you so much, Quinton.
What?
It’s like at the really end
Sinjin being a senior makes perfect sense to me. He's been around the block. He knows. It's not just that he's above it all, he's on a whole new level. He knows what he's about. Like, at the very least, he just doesn't have it in him to care that much about all the bullshit anymore, and that brings him the power to truly live free. After 4 years of being teenage morons, most of my graduating class felt and acted the same way. Why give a shit what everyone else thinks when you're gonna be gone the next year?
I wholeheartedly support a victorious reboot but only if Quinton gets to be paid an insane amount of money to be a plot consultant
At this point he’s given the show more publicity and his videos would become even more popular if a reboot were to be announced so yes he would deserve some type of payment for a reboot lmao
i don't even mean this as a joke, for real, THANK YOU FOR NOT SHOWING US THE PIMPLE POPPING SCENE, i know how tempting it must be to share this horrible experience with us, but i will be thankful every day from now on that i can live the rest of my life not having seen that! ❤️
edit: ATTENTION, as people pointed out in the comments there is another one at 6:07:34 which is not censored, robbie gets sprayed with pus, so avoid that if you want! it's a lot less disgusting though, in my opinion, since there is no pimple popping shown actually.
Srsly I was grossed out and closing my eyes just from it in it's unpopped form
100% agreed, I had to scroll down into the comments just from seeing how it looked unpopped, that shit was nasty.
he showed the second one tho 😭
I remember seeing it when it aired and
I’m so glad I didn’t have to relive that😭
Comments that aged poorly 💀
“I don’t think Matt Bennett is lying”
I think Matt Bennett is 100% lying. He lies like Robert Pattinson does in all his interviews. Why? Because it’s hilarious.
I love that
Do you remember the conversations you had in middle/high school? Exactly? And all of them perfectly when some random person asks you?
Right? It fully felt like sarcasm to me his tone sounded to me like he was mocking ppl who thought there could be lost eps
Goat behavior
6:51:19 I think what makes this moment more special is that Jade doesn't have a comeback, it seems literally every time anyone might threaten her or say anything slight mean about her, she screams at them or just has a comeback, or just says "NO ONE LIKES YOU" but here shes silent, which in her language is basically admitting Sinjin is completely right, which he is
Man, there are so many shows Quinton could do this with. Zoey 101, Big Time Rush, Sam and Cat, Hannah Montana (if he wanted to go into Disney stuff, damn thatd open up so many more). He'd probably go absolutely insane, but if he wanted to do it, I'd happily watch it all. Every single video.
IDK if I’d want to watch him talk about the Disney shows. The fun of analyzing the Nick shows from that era is that they were still very corporate and formulaic kids tv but there’s this manic, unhinged aspect to them, especially in the ways where they don’t quite pull off the things they want to do. I honestly think the Disney ones of that era are too well oiled and competently managed to be that engaging as a retrospective. You watch Drake and Josh or ICarly and you’re like “Ok these people are either working through some stuff or they’re deliberately trying to one up each other with how much they can get away with” while the Disney ones all felt very carefully tested before going forward with anything.
I wish he did drake & josh, its by far my favorite
I honestly would love a wizards of waverly place video, but I don't know if there's enough there for that
a big time rush series would be soooo good, easily my most wanted (esp because I binged the show recently. twice.)
@@kektendo9587 wow, I binged the show too and I listened to almost all the songs
Okay the Beck/Jade relationship stinks on ice, but the actors have this really natural chemistry that makes me think they were very close friends during filming. They seem like they genuinely care about each other.
I honestly think their chemistry is what saved their relationship in the show. Without that it would be so fucking awful to watch them together.
... kinda wish that friendship could’ve been part of preventing Elizabeth Gilles from marrying a child predator :/
Like she was groomed so it’s not her fault but I wish people had been able to prevent it. Idk. I loved jade as a kid and she‘s a really good singer :/
I agree that my memory of that relatiomship was different, but I liked that there was a couple and not another thing where the lead ends up with the pretty boy after a bunch of back and forth during the runtime of the show.
Even nowadays we hardly ever have couples that ARE a couple. Most shows even then just have people get together, and then they realise it's not true love and then they replace the love interest with another. Eventhough the relationship itself was bad, I thought it's interesting that they put a couple in thebshow that is consistently dating for most of the show.
@@corneliahanimann2173 heteronormativity loses out portraying healthy relationships- healthy straight relationships are obviously possible but like, look through straight relationship jokes, especially a generation or so back, and they’re like all about not communicating with your partner, mistrusting them, finding them alien and shrugging because “that’s just how it is- men and women, two different species.”
It’d be great to see more healthy relationships out of media as well as more diverse ones imo
@@Lucifersfursona riiight?? I will from now on blame Nick for shaping my shitty communication skills in relationships.
My comment here was really just a throwaway "give credit where credit is due" type of comment.
Before Victorious I watched Zoey 101 and ICarly. Both have an endless back and forth with the leads about who should end up with who, both have an episode where they have a guy rescue the girl and have a 1 episode relationship that ends because they want to be sure they actually love eachother. All of the shows end with the leads finally getting together, but when I watched Victorious, I thought it's kinda revolutionary, who else had a couple in the show that was going to remain a couple? No one did. They clearly don't know how to portray a couple, but I thought it's great that Jade and Beck are seperate characters that also date eachother and no one had to be hit by a vehicle for that to happen. It's the most normal thing Nick was capable of portraying at the time.
I think it speaks volumes to how charismatic and talented Leon Thomas is that I have fond memories of Andre and still genuinely enjoy the character despite him being such an after thought to the writers
Tori: YOU ARE SANDWICH GUY?!
Andre, no longer eating his sandwich: I like sandwiches and I hate that plant.
Right? Andre was just there in most of the show, with nothing to do and Leon was still able to be super charming and charismatic
@@MiloKuroshiro yeah I wish he's done more acting he's just so likeable
The dude just exudes charisma, even in footage where it's Quinton doing voiceover.
And his voice us beeeeaaautiful!
As someone who's never watched the series beyond these videos, here's my theory on Tori, Beck, and Jade:
Imagine Tori is closeted. She doesn't even realize it herself. Despite this, she's friends with the one guy who every girl INSISTS is the most attractive, but she just doesn't see it. Still, she convinces herself she IS attracted to him, because she thinks that's "normal". As long as Jade and Beck stay together, she doesn't need to think about it.
Despite her competitive tensions with Jade, she grows attracted to her which only further intensifies their jagged friendship. But when she sees Beck and Jade together, she still FEELS something, but convinces herself that it's for Beck.
Time passes after Beck and Jade break up, but when Tori has a genuine chance at being with Beck, she can only think about Jade: the one she's supposedly hates.
Blud writing fanfiction for some guy's foot fetish show/jk
You can view this as cannon, and it fits so well without creating any potholes and makes things make more sense like the episode where they date.
This is why fanon can easily peak canon sometimes
i 10000% agree with this as someone who pretended to have a crush on the popular guy just to fit in, only for that "crush" to fade 3 days later when he said one word to me. i learned later on in life that it's called "comphet"
this actually fits very well. like in "tori fixes beck and jade" when jade is singing "you don't know me", tori was singing along, very into it, and was completely Shocked that jade was staring at beck. it almost seemed like she pointed a bit to herself before to beck. she thought the song was for her 😭
In one Slap video, Cat says that she put pink tape around her hairdryer so that she'd know if someone stole it. Then in a later video Trina is seen holding a hairdryer with pink tape around it. Did they just reuse a prop thoughtlessly, or is it cannon that Trina stole her hairdryer? We'll never know.
Considering how often Cat seems to be at Tori's house this is not a stretch.
Homestuck
@@Powerman293 If that was the case, either Trina stole the hairdryer or Cat forgot to take it with her back home.
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they're dating and sharing each other's stuff. hope that helps 🥰
You know, if you really think about it, there is a lot of very raw potential in this show - if it weren't for the writers not being able to keep a straight face or the uncomfortable fetish stuff or the whole Ariana-getting-infantilized-to-make-Victoria-Justice-look-good-shit.
I mean, think about it. You have:
- Two sisters with neglectful parents overcompensating in different ways yet striving for the same goal
- A talented musician who is struggling to balance out his career and taking care of his grandma suffering from dementia
- A girl suffering from mental issues resulting from her brothers' violent behaviour
- An awkward but (technically) kind-hearted young man who's outlet is a dummy reflecting his attempts/wish to be more outgoing and confident
- An edgy goth girl with anger issues steaming from her father issues
- Her boyfriend (yeah, sorry, Beck, I got nothing for you)
If you played this with a straight face or at least tone down the comedic weirdness, this would be the stuff angsty teen drama is *made of*. You could even put a few nice messages about mental health, standing up to abusive/neglectful relatives etc. etc. in this.
Hence, “Euphoria with a laugh track”.
They would just turn it into riverdale
Beck, who constantly gets unwelcome advances from girls and adults and is also in an abusive relationship that he refuses to see as abusive because he doesn't think that can't happen to guys?
@@Cloudy4Days I wouldn’t say unwlecomed, he definitely welcomes it and doesn’t do anything to stop it, that’s why Jade goes crazy. That’s why she’s constantly saying “this is my boyfriend”, she feels like she has to be on guard cause she knows Beck wouldn’t do anything. He prides himself in being a “ladies man” and so Jade doesn’t have a safe space with Beck.
Maybe they could style Beck’s character more like the actor. Easy to make him endearing since the actor himself is a cool guy.
for anyone outside the US wondering:
freshman = typically ages 14-15
sophomore = typically ages 15-16
junior = typically ages 16-17
senior = typically ages 17-18, the final year of high school for american students
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you are amazing
Thx bro.
Thanks
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I know everyones already said it, but Cat breaking down while jade and beck are arguing is genuinely so... Not funny? Idk. Just reminds me of when my parents argued when i was growing up. To this day i can't deal with folks arguing around me
The fact it got so bad to the point of her PASSING OUT too, girl has some serious PTSD
David Schwimmer not being alive is still consistent in Victorious! The actress says shes in a show called "The Dead" and she plays David Schwimmer's wife. The version of David Schwimmer in "The Dead" could be a fictionalized version of him as a ghost/spirit
i just thought it meant she was his widow
It would be fucking hilarious if not only David Schwimmer is dead in the NSU, his death was apparently tragic and notable enough for someone to adapt it into a show ominously called The Dead where one of the characters is his wife/eventual grieving widow
I don't know how Quinton didn't get that joke like I'm literally Autistic and I still instantly got that.
The whole "David Schwimmer is dead in the NSU" running bit is a bit less funny now that Matthew Perry is actually dead, by drowning no less.
@@cartooncritic7045nah that makes it way more funny
Who's gonna tell Quinton he singlehandedly got Victorious to trending on Tumblr?
he has a tumblr account and he knows lol
jade liking bunnies isn’t a surprise- bunnies are surprisingly FULL of attitude and can be pretty snappy. they’re very bossy and pushy and pretty badass animals. anyone who’s owned a bunny knows they aren’t for the weak of heart lol
You made me think of the sassy rabbit I had as a child. He’d stomp his foot when angry or trying to get attention
Jade liking bunnies reminds me of when I changed schools, and i was literally the only new one In a class of 200 Girls. So i talked to a lot of them and started being silly with it and when I got to 'the goth kid', she was a year older than the rest, had a tatoo at 16, wore black blouses with the uniform (we all wore white ones, but the rule didnt *say* they had to be White) i asked her her favorite color (black, obv), favorite food (meh, pizza i guess), hobbies (music, duh), and favorite animal. BUNNIES. And she Just gave me a slide show of her bunny, bruce, in costumes.
@@ulkaalcachofajorquera5756 That’s so wholesome, bless her
@@pokemonfanthings4444 mine would push you with his snout if you stood somewhere he wanted to go. It was so cute to be ‘attacked’ by this little fluff ball.
My bunny ended up half blind (cat incident) land he died how he lived.. sleeping and ignoring people. He got squished by a big tractor wheel. I don’t even blame the farmers around here because there’s no way they could’ve seen him and he should’ve been running!! He loved our apple tree. He lived in our yard and just knew to stay because it was home. He would stomp and grunt at us and would ask for pets by pushing his head out at you. Him and my little kitty were BFFs. He tried to hump one of our other kitties and it didn’t go so well for him lmao
leon thomas WON A GRAMMY this year. he produced “snooze” by sza, he produces for a lot of big artists and makes his own music!! his recent album was so so good, he’s made a name for himself within the industry for sure
The sheer panic I felt when I heard the words “I ship Tori and Rex” cannot be measured and no this is not a spoiler because even knowing this information you are not prepared
Makes sense. Real boys are disappointing
@@meinkraft501 So are real girls.
I like to believe that Sinjin is fairly wealthy having started a niche but successful tech business in Silicon Valley and Trina is living her best life in Northern California, away from the LA vortex. They are both close longtime friends, each having their own lives but keeping in touch online. There's a group chat with their respective partners with years worth of inside jokes. They get together about 4-5 times a year, sometimes even vacationing together abroad and having a blast. The funniest part is that both Trina and Sinjin have been friends for so long and they both disassociate from their time at Hollywood Arts so much, that they misremember their friendship extending as far back as freshman year. Like, "yeah remember when you got your head stuck in a vending machine? classic Sinji" or " aww remember when I taught you to jump rope? that was such a fun day!"
Why was this the most wholesome thing ive read?? Im sorry????
Tori and Jade are what opened my eyes to the enemies to lovers trope and I have never been the same since.
*in a deeply pained, echoing voice*
Welcome, brother
If you like that, check out the Niles & C.C. relationship from a TV show called The Nanny. Peak enemies to lovers right there
Tori and Jade stumbled so The Owl House could fucking SOAR.
@@alexcoffey8804 i love the owl house but honestly lumity barely counts as enemies to lovers imo
@@denjidenji9162 SHE TRIED TO FUCKING KILL HER MY DUDE
this no finale thing is unsettling af. A lack of closure is scarier than death to me. I am not exaggerating.
Quinton, you're clearly a madman, but there's something about your voice, your presence, your analysis, your approach towards things that makes you so warm and likable. Obviously keep this up bro lol.
Preach 🙌
He's obviously a madman, he had a Time Lord VicTORIous t-shirt made. I don't know why but I'm horribly, unreasonably unhappy about that little fact.
He really is mad and I watch all these videos to share in his mania.
I don't think enough of us are appreciative of Quinton's great shirts throught this series. I would gladly wear any and all of them
@LadyRedHeart man u beat me to it
he's got a redbubble where he sells them, i dont know if they're original designs but I assume so
@LadyRedHeart a link to one of his designs is in the description, underneath all the glasses
I think he should do a chad in high school musical and let some patrons design a shirt for him for his next videos!
preach
For those wondering, the Andre's age rant at 2:46:50 is as follows:
"You see, in the Pilot Episode, Trina says that Andre is in the Tenth Grade. And while you might argue that she just got his age wrong, just like she just got his name wrong, you also have to keep in mind that Trina is a year older than all the other characters.
And when Trina finds out that she can't do the annual showcase, someone comments, "there's always next year", implying that she's NOT a Senior, because if she WAS a Senior there wouldn't BE a next year for her, meaning that she has to, at the very least, be a Junior, or earlier.
Through the end of Season 2, Trina talks about the Seniors at the school as if she isn't one, and it's not until Season 3, where it's first implied that a year has passed In-Universe, that Trina's been at this school for four years, something which is allegedly confirmed in Season 4, although I haven't gotten that far yet."
I wouldn't be surprised if the writers thought they had done a 'Trina is so terrible at performing, she had to repeat a grade' joke setting up all this, but they in fact hadn't.
man i just got done screen recording and using the slow mo snapchat filter to listen to it idk why i only checked the comments after.
Came to the comments looking for this. You the real mvp
That feeling when something cringes you tf out so you quickly click the scrub bar to skip through it, but the video is 8 hours and that small click constituted well over half an hour and you now seemingly can't find the section you were on. Just a hyper specific problem that as a long form content listener I experience with startling frequency.
Happened to me every time he talked positively about Ariana Grande for too long 😂
@@Deadspooky-Gore if it's any consolation, I literally could not name you one song by Arianna Grande. So be contented by the knowledge that there is a very large sub section of the especially male population who neither know anything about her, nor particularly care.
@@Deadspooky-Goreglad I’m not the only one cringing to that lol
6:09:00 “why don’t you just drop a car battery on her head?”
“Car battery!”
Thunk
Is my favorite part of this entire show it’s amazing
same. one of the things i remember always from this show. the rest is foggy and overall i’d just remember the idea of the episode but no. this clip i will remember clearly
finding out that cat's brother has a canonical appearance in the NSU (aka frankie grande) has literally shook me to the core. my jaw was dropped for a solid minute.
SAME I WAS NOT READY
And not just that, but that he's both a supervillain and an e-celeb at the same time. And that he puts a plastic bag full of feet in the trunk of his car
Like, Goddamn. When Kat said he was kinda weird, that was REALLY an understatement
The most ironic part of finding out that Matt Bennett's parents got divorced from this video is that Matt Bennett's mom was my elementary school guidance counselor, who specialized on divorce. Her program was called "the banana splits" and she gave us these little things called warm fuzzies. She was a really sweet woman, when I heard that it was her son on victorious I lost my shit.
This is an amazing fact omg
3:18:39 I legitimately took a break from this video after this section. I didn’t fully accept the “we’re just gonna move on immediately” message and just had to walk away. I’m glad that the content was mentioned because people should be aware of the stuff these kids were forced to do but watching it is so uncomfortable. I feel so bad for the actors looking back on the stuff that happened and knowing how many people saw it
"Victorious invented queerbaiting" might be the single greatest take I've heard from anyone about any piece of media ever
@Kayla Wise Andre: Am I a joke to you?
@Kayla Wise beck would be more of a closer Bi than andre if anything
closet*
Not really, queerbaiting is much, MUCH older than victorious. We're talking older than TV shows and movies
@@mahoganyk for a certain generation you could argue it was one of the most obvious instances that was first experienced
I figured it out. There are no mistakes.
When Cat's favorite actress says that she's playing David Schwimmer's wife on The Dead, it doesn't imply that David Schwimmer himself is alive. In fact, it implies the OPPOSITE. The show, after all, is called "The Dead," so it's about dead people. She could very easily be playing the CHARACTER of David Schwimmer, the dead actor's, wife, WITHOUT the man himself being involved, OR she is playing the wife opposite a DIFFERENT actor playing a CHARACTER named David Schwimmer.
There ARE no mistakes.
Also Freddie could’ve been mistaken that David Schwimmer died on Celebrities Underwater. I think they just threw his name in the script because it makes for a funny joke (sounds like “swimmer”)
she could definitely be playing the alive wife of a dead man…even if it sounded like she was in the show with him 😂
i know for a FACT that sam and cat also mentions david schwimmer as alive, so regardless there's something strange going on there
@@maris_molotov I would rather believe that necromancy exists in this universe than let Davud Schwimmer not have died.
A thing I noticed (after rewatching this for the ungodly-st time) that Jade's reaction on Sinjin's puppet show is... really tame. Like almost... empathetic? Maybe I'm just so used to this character being almost psychopathic that this seems like an extreme in comparison, but it's really more a "Dude, I know your judgment on what is social acceptable is not good, but this is weird, creepy and not acceptable, stop". Bit like she'd talk to someone neurodivergent. Her reaction to Burf behind the camera (the angry "Is. that. on?!") is more the Jade I know.
I know right? I expected her to come into frame and start beating him up, but she was really calm about it. That is, until she noticed Burf recording.
@@sammybear21 Same. I think it's really the voice that sells it and I honestly think it is deliberate. Because we know the actress can do the "silent yet threatening" voice (like you see in the "Take a hint" song), but that's not what's happening here.
i noticed this too and found it cute. she seemed more concerned for his mental well-being. she only seemed to get upset with him when she realized the sock puppet was her. like the fact she didn’t know the sock puppet was her was weird to me lol like the others seemed to just wander in and then only after they realized the sock puppet was them (or was uh… the president) that they made a stance on it. aside from trina but my assumption was she heard about this from tori and jade. but jade just seemed worried and empathetic. maybe that’s why sinjin likes her, because she is actually kind of nice to him in private lol.
@@tsuki3752 I agree!
It seems remarkably out of character for her honestly, her tone is that of genuine concern and actually some level of caring. I think it really is in the voice because it's a lot gentler than usual. I genuinely like that part of the scene as that's a considerate (and sweet, again weird for Jade) way to handle that situation (and a level of empathy I wish I'd gotten when I was younger - for social faux pas that are less weird than that puppet show ofc, but faux pas all the same.) I almost feel some disappointment when she reverted back to something more on character with the 'is that supposed to be me?' and what follows from there, even though that is how Jade generally acts.
22:09 "Everyone strap in; this episode can't possibly have aged well". Quotes that describe this entire show.
That part where Sinjin tells off the main characters for being so conceited and them failing was so cathartic and satisfying, that’s my canon ending of the show. All jokes aside, this was a behemoth of a video and I enjoyed every single moment of it. Take that month long break my child (even though you’re like a year and a half older than me), you deserve it. Plus the end cameos were amazingly wholesome and absolutely hilarious respectively lol