Thank you for putting me on to CJ the X's channel, idgaf about iCarly but I dig your presentation style and was watching your first iCarly video which led me to search for a video about that song they did in the limo which allowed me to discover CJ the X as he did a vid on iCarly too and while that topic still isn't a point of interest for me his media analysis in general is some of the most brilliant shit I've ever seen on RUclips so thank you for putting me on
Hey Quinton, just letting you know I'm 40, so I actually get the Geraldo Rivera chair joke. Not sure who else will, as I feel I'm the older part of most YT audiences. Great work, glad the drive thing wasn't an issue in the end, or that you got past it by just doing it all over again. You're my favorite new sub this year, and a possible patronage. Huge Garfield fan too.
I had to read that back to fully realize the implications of that sentence. One of the few time a comment just repeating a quote from the video has actually been a good thing
The same writer is probably sweating hoping that nobody remembers the episode where Carly, Sam and Freddie are in that mock-spaceship compartment. Nice continuity. Edit: I get it, I was wrong. I didn't remember the space episode that well, and this comment was meant in a jokey way.
Actually, hang on, I have a second comment. What I don't get is: why didn't they, instead of having all those jokes about Spencer not having adult friends, just... have him and T-Bo be friends? It gives T-Bo a reason to hang out at the Shay apartment, it gives the writers a new dynamic to work with, it gives Spencer a friend that can appear on screen. It'd be perfect. Just give them a bromance. It's that easy. I mean, personally I wouldn't have made Spencer get kicked out of the book club either. You know what's funnier than "Spencer has no friends"? "Spencer actually has loads of friends that we just don't know about because the show is about his little sister". Just imagine gag after gag about large groups of people who know Spencer, and in increasingly weird or oddly specific niches, and the rest of the cast has no idea who any of them are. Instead of making Spencer into "weird man-child who can only hang out with teenagers because they're about as mature as him" they could have made him what I think he originally was: "Cool older brother who has his own fun and quirky life in the background".
I like the idea of it being implied there’s a whole different sitcom playing out in the background that we never get to see except for small references.
Ion like how they clown Spencer for his book club and “feminine” activities. He’s simply a renaissance man, he enjoys making art, cooking good food, reading fine literature, and wasting time on pointless inventions that solve small problems in a complex way. And we in turn all know this is why Spencer gets bitches.
Considering Jennette McCurdy’s tumultuous relationship with her real-life mother, I find the Sam’s mom episode even more uncomfortable and kind of cruel.
I was thinking the exact same thing. The detail of the food, when her real mother was a significant source of her struggles with an ED, also hits in a really sickening way.
yeah i'm p sure the writers didn't know about her personal struggles with parental abuse when they wrote the episode lol. you guys are acting like the writers knew about her personal life and intentionally wrote the episode based off of it lol
Watched the Victorious video before this one, and I gotta say, the iCrime counter vs the statutory rape joke counter really just perfectly defines the difference between these shows
And it’s such a stark contrast to watch the two iCarly videos and only *occasionally* see something offensive or creepy. Like it’s often enough to raise eyebrows and remind you that Dan Schneider was behind these shows, but in Victorious, it is shockingly constant in every episode. It’s like they felt emboldened.
1 year earlier: "I could easily make a standalone video talking about Victorious..." 1 year later: "In part 2 of this 13 hour retrospective I'll prove why Jori is endgame."
i’ve been putting off watching his analyses bc they’re long and i wanted to be able to watch them in one sitting and when i went to check how long his victorious video was my jaw dropped lmfao. good for me tho i fucking love long content, and quinton is incredibly well spoken
"this is the most normal and therefore boring season" "the iCarly cast creates a sweatshop, kidnaps someone, Gibby kills an old lady and acts like Agent 47 at a party, Spencer sexually assaults someone"
@@Raph584 I've never seen iCarly, so for most of these videos I got the impression that this is what it'd look like if someone tried to make a kid's version of It's Always Sunny (it also helps that there was literally an episode of IASIP where the characters open a sweat shop)
imagine how Jeanette must have felt as an actress and a person after being told that she would get to meet, and work with, the iconic Jane Lynch, but only if she acts out her real life trauma with her openly abusive mother.
@@Mid-iala my guess is if the production asked Jane Lynch to play Sam's mother, they most likely didn't tell her about Jennette's situation to avoid Jane not accepting the role (now i obvously don't know Jane Lynch but i would hope she would've turned down thet role if she knew it could have caused pain to Jennette) PS: i apologize if my english is bad, it's not my first language
@@letiziavisintin5603 Jane Lynch often plays rude characters, but from an interview I saw about Glee, she's kind irl and any decent person wouldn't take the role
@@Mid-iala At that point in Jane's life she was married to someone with a preteen daughter. That preteen daughter probably watched iCarly. I don't think it was that deep. She was just doing kid friendly version of Sue Sylvester that her preteen stepdaughter could watch.
Nathan Kress' actual opinion on who Freddie should end up with, "If [Freddie and I] sat down and had lunch, and he was talking to me about these girls that he just couldn't decide between and there were so many great things about both of them, knowing what I know, I would probably recommend he move to another country that's not Italy and just start over and find a girl that is actually into him without having to push himself in front of a taco truck... And also one that does not constantly verbally and physically abuse him."
If not racist, then at the very least so much of a stuck-up Karen + so out of touch with other people around her that she simply fails to empathise or care to compromise on anything. Her neuroticism is made out to be a laughing matter than a serious matter - as with most things in this show. But yeah, it does make sense and it made click in my brain when Quinton mentioned it because I don't even know whether I ever had the oppoturnity to watch that far
Writing Sam’s mother an abusive parent is alarming. The writers and producers essentially capitalised on Jeanette’s struggles personal life and forced her to re-enact it in front of the entire world. That’s just gross to begin with.
I don't know if she was re-enacting it exactly. Cause while yes it is fucked up that both the actress and the character Sam had an abusive mom, they were abusive in different ways (except for the pageant thing). Sam's mom was more physically abusive and distant and seemed like she didn't really care about her daughter, the pair always fighting. Jennette's mom was more like Freddy's mom, being overly clingy and controlling. And at the time Jennette didn't realize it was abuse. She thought she and her mom were best friends and worshiped the ground she walked on. Her mom would manipulate her by crying and playing the victim whenever Jennette did something she didn't like.
I'm willing to be that it's pure coincidence especially since abusive/absent parents seemed to be a common thing in iCarly. Also, despite everyone on here saying that the people working on iCarly probably knew the abuse, I honestly doubt it. Abusive parents are not exactly easy to spot unless the person being abused talks about their experiences. And from what we know Jeanette, at that point of her life, hasn't realized that she was in an abusive relationship. Abusive parents are pretty good at seeming like just overly protective parents with clingy children. If it was so easy to spot abuse, no one would've even been shocked at Jeanette's confession. Just cause we're seeing things in a different light in hindsight doesn't mean that those things were apparent/obvious back then. And I'm not defending Dan. He's a piece of shit. But it's tiring seeing people make conclusions that everyone was just in on it and wanted to make Jeanette relieve the abuse she endured behind closed doors for the laughs when we have no actual concrete proof to say that.
i didn’t even put that together. even if it was just some crazy coincidence i can’t help but imagine what jeanette was feeling during this point of her life.
@@loturzelrestaurant It's super accurate to working fast food or food/customer service Lemme tell you the amount of dumbasses coming in and not even being able to read the menus as its presented over them in bold letters Sometimes people are really that headass Agreed! I carly did fall off really hard Theres some good stuff laying around in the series.
@@katatat2030 oh yeah, we all have that happen. As a retail worker that goes one of two ways. You hit them with the T-bo “Do we what?” And they either double down or the go “did I really just do that?” If they double down on their question it’s a frustrating encounter. If they say they realized it was a stupid question it could be a humorous experience.
Among the huge issues with the treatment of Sam and her actress, Jeanette McCurdy, one of the ones that bothers me the most and that I often think about is how Dan Schneider insisted her character be obsessed with food, despite knowing that Jeanette was struggling with an eating disorder at the time. It's so unnecessary, cruel, and comes across as an attempt to control a young teenage girl who was already really struggling. As well as her real-life manipulative and abusive mother being an underlying factor to her eating disorder, and the show seemingly using this in her character with Sam's abusive mother. It's just plain gross and it bothers me that the network and other adults involved in iCarly production allowed this, and the other maltreatment that took place.
@@ExitStatement I'm sure the studio knew. A lot of studios even pushed it Thinking of disney and demi lovato. I remember watching this as a pre-teen and my mom coming in the room asking why sam in particular was so skinny (she was a nurse) and stated it looked unhealthy. It's actually funny now because sometimes my parents would make comments about these shows like "why are they dressed so grown?" etc. and I would brush it off as lame parents but now as an adult, I see why my parents were wary because they could see how these studios were selling these literal children as sex objects and abusing them. I watched Jeanette mcCurdy's podcast on youtube and I'm happy she's take a break from acting to work on other projects she's passionate about and that shes doing better now.
@@sydneyjordan2452 i agree, but i’m concerned she’s still not in a good place. she has a lot of rage and resentment. hopefully she can work through it and find some peace.
something that really got less and less funny as the show went on was spencer occasionally riffing on sam and freddy for spending no time in their own homes while the show reveals in more and more depth how sam and freddy both live in deeply abusive and emotionally damaging homes, which spencer knows because he has met both their mothers
@princeparkook Is it? I thought it was actually supposed to be serious. Are all 24+ hours of Quinton's NSU content supposed to be satirical? I wasn't getting that at all.
The scene where Gibby "dies".... the way the man bounced and was so still after... I thought, without a shadow of a doubt that that was a doll. Even during this video I thought "oh please, it was just a dummy." The fact that he was a real human that suffered those injuries is mortifying. And that the cast and writers crack(ed) jokes about it is sociopathic.
I myself thought the same thing! Like there HAD to be some kind of mattress there or a dummy because there’s no way anybody would just allow a man to bellyflop onto CONCRETE. That made me laugh as a kid… and now knowing that man went through so much pain for my entertainment makes me sick
This is also why "dummy dropping from the ceiling" and associated gags are so funny, because you can really launch those guys *and* no one actually gets hurt.
I also know he was young when it happened and as we've learned filming a Nickelodeon tv show can expose you to stuff that can really alter your world view and tragically make kids grow up far too fast, but Noah didnt seem too phased talking about that stuntman's accident on that podcast which is kinda grim. Heck im not even like trying to give the guy a hard time ive gone through some grim things and responded even hours later with dark jokes or muses on the situation but its still kinda uncomfortable to say the least
What’s worse to me is that Gibby was always supposed to conjure laughs. Like anytime he was on screen, we were conditioned to laugh. So when he (the stuntman) fell, the first instinct is to laugh, since it’s a kids show and it’s GIBBY. Then we are faced with a reality where we laugh at something the writer’s always knew was actually horrible-and they enjoyed that
I also thought it was a dummy because that's.... literally what you're supposed to do at that grand of a fall. Hell, a lot of kid shows couldn't even afford stuntmen so they would use dolls and it was pretty obvious by the absolute ragdoll-ness whenever they would throw the dummy around. So I thought surely they would do the same, even though I thought the "dummy" looked too human. But I refused to believe it was an actual person because it wouldn't make sense that you'd make an actual person fall from that height... right??? Well this video opened that can of worms
I agree that male sexual assault is very often used as a punchline but I think in iCarly it's not "funny because he's a guy" it's "funny because it's sexual assault" because literally everyone in that show has been sexually assaulted repeatedly for gags at some point.
I hated the later confirmation about Sam having pretended to be Jewish all along, because I was actually totally satisfied with the idea that she was just trolling the therapist and trying to piss off her mom by denying their faith in front of her.
I don't know, I now have a head cannon that the reason she had a star of David in her locker is because she would impersonate Rebecca Berkowitz and get her in trouble constantly, and Berkowitz does sound like a Jewish name
Poor Jennette, like her acting career is full of so much shit. Went through an eating disorder and survived an abusive mother and COINCIDENTALLY, the character she plays on iCarly and also Sam & Cat is super into eating food and constantly talks about how bad of a person her mom is? Like, how fucking sick is that? She already went through so much trauma and it was like she was reliving the entire thing during her acting career. No wonder she doesn't want to go to the revival, her entire character is just a big traumatic trigger. Not to mention she had to survive fucking Dan Scheider, that fucking creep. There's videos of him going up to the cast of Victorious and they look borderline terrified. I saw one where he goes up to Cat and Jade (who are obviously out of character) and Jade quickly whispers to Cat saying that Dan was coming and they both look so uncomfortable during the entire thing. I respect Jennette's decision and really hope she can move long get better. It must've been so awful. . .
Almost makes you feel bad for liking Sam as a a character, because she’s essentially a fucked up version of jennettes own life. I can say I hope she gets better and starts a good career in directing
Sam was my favorite character growing up because I too had an abusive family life, and the other adults in my life just didn't care at all. It helped me cope with the abuse by making a joke out of everything, and helped me survive long enough to grow up and GTFO. I wouldn't say anything cringey like her role in a tween's TV show "sAvEd My LiFe" but I'm not ashamed to say I was inspired. It breaks my heart to hear that she suffered the same, and her suffering was made to be nothing more than a prop for teh funniez. I'm glad she's not going if that's what it was to her, and I'm ashamed of myself that I never saw it from her perspective until just now.
that Gibby fall is so insane. I had seen it before and always assumed it was a dummy but having a stunt person take a face first bump, from what seems to be a pretty decent height, onto just...the floor of a set? thats just cruel.
You can even see the floor buckle and the floor panel come up a bit. I initially assumed they'd have padded it under a plyboard, kind of like pro wrestling does...but I guess not given his ribs.
It's quite possible that man's body hasn't been the same ever since. I suspect there still might be a few vital organs functioning abnormally from the fall.
The continuous subtle implication that Gibby likes men throughout this show is such whiplash compared to its treatment of Nora and how she kissed that girl in iPsycho
The most annoying thing about the Jewish continuity is how easily it could have been fixed. Keep the joke, just change the punchline to "It's ok, we're not that kind of Jewish" or "It's okay, we don't keep kosher". Simple, easy, barely even a rewrite.
Infact, I think would've been funnier coming from sam if either of those two lines were said. Just the thought of sam having a specific devout ruleset to her jewish heritage makes sense
As a naturally unfunny person, the way idve written it is to have Sam's Mum's first comment in the therapy box to be 'We ARE Jewish', only for Sam to say 'Yeah, but the joke wouldnt have worked otherwise' as a 4th wall break, and then the scene just plays out as normal.
Ok but this actually would’ve been a great way to address it in the reboot. Technically, they still can but they already kind of had Carly make a brief comment about her dad being in the navy and then the Air Force within the first couple moments of the new season 😭 who knows what we’ll find out
Somehow having somebody from the Air Force and somebody from the Navy having a romantic relation let alone being married would be the least realistic thing about this show because both of those branches absolutely hate each other
Spencer being an artist and progressively becoming popular would have been such a good storyline like in Gossip Girl, and it would have been an amazing ending for him and carly as well
i mean in the new icarly he does get famous from his work after carly goes to france with her dad. i think its while shes on the base with his dad his work gets recognized. and during her college days.
My ex spouse was an active duty member of the US Navy. One of the benefits of being an active duty member of the US military is something called BAH, which stands for basic allowance for housing. Basically, if the military member is stationed anywhere separately from their family, the US government sends the family a lump sum of money every month which is calculated based off of the living costs of the area the family is living, and it's intended to be used to cover all of the family's living costs. I always assumed that was where the Shay's got the money for their apartment and all their bills and food.
@@natk4017 imagine someone being like "yea so this is what happened in my life" and you decide to tell them that the thing they lived through didn't actually happen lmao
The housing cost for that amazing apartment would take up around 75% of those monthly funds because that place was probably $3,000-$4,000 rent. They'd only have 25% for bills and other living expenses. This doesn't make sense. It's ridiculous.
The writers were kinda evil. They liked torturing the actors. You talked about the stuntman incident where the writers made a joke about Gibby having broken ribs in the fall when they know the stuntman did break ribs and had to go to the hospital. They wrote that in as a reference that only the people on set would know it’s just to be evil. And then everyone has mentioned Jeannette McCurdy who they directly reflected/exacerbated the poor home life and ED of. Why? They could have made her trait anything they didn’t HAVE to make her obsessed with eating, they didn’t HAVE to make her mom abusive in the show. But they did-because it effected her. It made no difference to the audience. The writers were truly cruel (and to the people saying they didn’t know I don’t believe that for a second, first of all because it’s so perfectly parallel and second because I don’t think it was hidden very well or intently, especially from producers in fact Jeanette blatantly said her mother was openly abusive on set and she was hospitalized MID SEASON for ED. Yes they knew.)
@@DevanLund No I’m not saying that Sam wasn’t inspired by Jennette at all but shows are made and written before casting even happens so to say that what I said isn’t possibly correct would be pretty closed minded and Ignorant
Seems very unnerving how they seemed to purposely use plot lines in the show as a way to make Jeanette uncomfortable. Not just the food thing but also the role of her mom in the show.
Right!!! Knowing the stuff she has shared in her podcast, it retroactively makes a bunch of episodes feel even more gross. It’s like, too uncomfortably on point to feel like a coincidence. And the writers are already so mean spirited in their writing that it doesn’t feel out of the realm of possibility at all that they knew or found out about some of these things about her life and decided to use that as a basis for how they wrote Sam’s character and stories throughout the series. It’s so uncomfortable to watch and I can only imagine how awful it was for her to have to act that out and not really be given any choice to change the situation.
@ᴀꜱᴜᴋᴀ ᴀꜱᴜᴋᴀ In her book she talks about hating acting from the beginning and her mom forcing her into it. She quit pretty soon after her mom died. The show joking about Sam being forced into pageants as kid like mirrors Jeanette's life.
2 things I'll never forget from the prank episode: 1) The way Spencer said "It was just a praaaaaaaank!" 2) The song that played in that episode. It was so catchy lol. 🎶 You think it's all over but the joke is on you! 🎶
Lol the "It was just a praaaaaaaaaank" is even funnier with how the teen actor mouthed it. Also love the prank song. Def was played on Victorious as well so they must've really liked that track.
totally but it's also just a weird joke that it's funny but endearing that sam likes "junk" foods but like fat characters are seen as a joke inherently
As a child with a weird relationship with food I couldnt watch the fat cake episode bc the part with sam guzzling fat made me so uncomfortable. Obviously it wasn’t actual lard but the idea of jeanette having to film that makes me feel really sad
seriously. it makes me so sad for her, i can’t imagine what it was like to go through that. also, as the first reply said, sam constantly binge eating junk food still appearing very thin and “attractive,” (by nickelodeon at the time’s standards,) yet still insulting fat characters, is SO damaging in SO many ways.
One thing I find weird about the Sam and Freddie relationship is that it's implied that the reason Sam was always mean to Freddie is because she secretly liked him and didn't know how to process her feelings. But it's shown that she still has these same violent tendencies even after they start dating, they just aren't directed at Freddie anymore. Which kind of implies that these previous attacks on Freddie weren't actually because she liked him, but because Sam is a very damaged person who is prone to violent outbursts. So the show kind of accidentally deconfirms it's own reason as to why these two get together in the first place. I'm definitely over analyzing, but it's just kind of weird that they did that.
Nah I don’t think you are overanalyzing, I always felt that it was implied that she just has these outbursts bc she has anger issues or something, not because she would like anyone. The whole Sam hurts Freddie bc she likes him trope feels to me like it was just made up by the shippers as an excuse and the writers ran with it.
I mean, there's no reason she can't be getting violent urges because she likes Freddie. It's just when she's dating she doesn't want to take them out on him...But that could be just giving the show too much credit.
You know what's sad? iCarly had many bands and preformers on the show, yet they DIDN'T have Big Time Rush on it. It's like Nickelodeon wanted BTR to fail tbh
So one of the guys in btr was already in the show, he was Freddy’s friend in season one I think. So idk how they could bring btr on the show without it being mentioned that he was someone else in the universe lol.
@@sarraphinasorrow The actresses for Tori and Trina both made appearances in the fighting episode and the Nora episode. Freddie’s actor also just shows up in a Victorious episode to watch a play, don’t think they cared
Big time rush wasn't created by Dan Schneider, that's why. I bet he refused to let 'his girls' (you have no idea how gross I felt writing that. They're children Jesus Christ) get anywhere near these cute nice boys. Alternatively, and what by far I hope what happened, is that they had ppl looking out for them refusing to let the boys go near Dan. Unfortunately, knowing the level of power he was given and having experience with abusers, I find the first more likely. :(((
Honestly, you announcing that you're doing a long ass Victorious analysis is one of the biggest bombshells and most pleasant surprises that I've ever seen a RUclipsr do. Get some rest, man. You deserve it.
as someone that was so obsessed with icarly as a kid that i had an icarly birthday party, i can confirm that the broken happy meal toy cheers when you press one button, and boos when you push the other. i’m sure y’all were on the edge of your seats waiting for this answer
I have a very dumb theory. The reason Spencer accidentally sets things on fire is that he secretly has pyrogenesis and suffers from power incontinence. Him setting the squirrel sculptor on fire in the finale is him learning to control these outbursts.
Well theres a chance Henry Danger is in the same universe (one of the villians is basically confirmed to be Cats brother) which would make this a possibility. Super powers are cannon in the Nick universe.
When you mentioned Socko’s extended family and specifically Rob, I realized that Rob essentially was presented with two choices when he was born. Robert can be shortened to Bobby, which is a nickname for police officers, or it can shorten to Rob, and I applaud Rob for going the way of the career criminal. You do you, buddy, stick it to the man!
I didn't ship Creddie because I thought it was boring but I didn't ship Seddie because it was horribly abusive. I watched iCarly because I loved their friendship as a trio. I had no idea there was such an intense ship culture around this show until I watched these videos.
As much as I love icarly, it was also the show that sparked my hatred for shipping culture. Especially when it's between two clearly incompatible characters. If I was ever to create a show of my own, there would only be well defined and STABLE relationships from start to finish, no room for shipping space whatsoever!
Although I guess you could argue that my theory mandates a sort of pseudo-shipping where I insist upon certain relationships over others. This just can't be easy 🤣
@@rickenman9844 that doesn't stop all shippers lol Some will make up relationships between characters who have no chemistry or ship them all together or something else shipper's gotta ship XD
@@mrh8142 True. It was just so frustrating to me as someone, while not wishing any ill will toward either Sam or Freddie, who realizes that not only are their personalities simply incompatible with one another, but their emotional history already has too much baggage to overcome (years of physical abuse suffered by Freddie at Sam's hands for example).
@@rickenman9844 oh yeah definitely. Imo they should not end up together and if they did, they'd both need therapy (and not with the therapist that worked with sam and her mom)
The "I want all of these actors to never do anything bad so I can continue to enjoy this show that doesn't have a creator" gag hits a lot harder after the Schneider video
My mans talked about iCarly for 8 hours, and didn’t mention Dan Schneider or feet ONCE! That takes either immense talent or sheer force of will. Kudos Quinton, kudos.
@@dragonslayer101 10 minutes? This isn’t exactly complicated maths, and I say that as someone who’s sat through enough linear algebra and real analysis I’m not entirely sure how using numbers instead of weird Greek letters actually works.
I feel bad laughing at the stunt man falling, but the “GIBBYYY” always gets me so bad, just the way he yells and immediately hits the ground as the scream finishes. I hope he’s doin well now and that he got compensated for all that shit
I'm not 100% on this, but Apparently he wasn't actually injured. He was wearing impact pads. His name is Dustin Courtney and his most recent role was in the Matrix resurrections.
@@Door_Into_Summer Noah Munck was on a podcast where he recounted the story. He said the stunt man ended up with like broken ribs, and an ambulance had to take him away
I knkw this video is like a year old but I wanna try to shed some light on the injured stuntman situation. I'm not in the industry of stunts but as far as I know, there's a sort of pact or unspoken rule in stunts where if a stunt performer gets hurt doing a stunt (and it still looks good) that's the take you should use in the final cut. It's like a respect thing for the stunt performers if they were to get injured.
I've heard this as well. there's a scene in back to the future II, when biff and his gang are launched through big windows of a building, and you can see one of the stuntmen (woman, in this case) not actually hit the window, but the side of the building, where she falls and crumples to the ground. she survived but was so seriously injured! and it's in the movie! and there are many stories about films like that. I feel as though it's due to the unspoken agreement to use the take, as well as it just being more convenient to use that take as opposed to taking the time to find new stunt doubles to film another one. as unorthodox as it sounds, the show really must go on.
@@-psilo-9071a handful of reasons, I’d assume. 1. Can you imagine getting injured for nothing? Maybe it’s just me, but I wouldn’t wanna go through all that trouble and then get nothing out of it. 2. It would kinda feel insensitive to just replace someone like they’re just a prop, especially if said person went all out for the show. I dunno those are just my guesses
@@j.2512 Stunts for movies should not be dangerous, they should just look like they are. But if that ever even injures one person, the stunt is not worth it.
By this half of the show it feels like the writers are honestly writing characters with serious trauma and attachment issues, but they think they’re just writing quirky kids
It's unfortunate that society looked at troubled youth that way up until rather recently. That episode with Sam's mom would be portrayed VERY differently in 2021, at least assuming Dan isn't the one writing the script of course.
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"I'm not covering the iCarly revival". Good. If you tried to tackle that on top of everything else you've done recently, I'm pretty sure your entire body would explode like Agent Smith in the end of the Matrix. Take care of yourself, Quinton.
the fact that when i was little i always thought the actors were living their dreams, being able to act in these tv shows. it always looked so fun but then hearing janette’s story i was shocked. she had to “act” as if her mother was abusive when in reality, she was much more than that. heartbreaking.
Funny how iCarly literally pulled One Direction (at their peak) for an episode, but it wasn't nearly as memorable as the time they got the guys who sang Hey There Delilah
I don't even remember the plain white t's episode except for the fact that they performed at the end. The one direction episode I can tell you the exact plot line.
@@soph996 maybe I'm stupid but I swear 1Ds peak was then just after X factor when that's what makes you beautiful came out. Maybe that's just from a UK perspective though
I find extremely weird the focus that the writers put on Sam eating junk food constantly... knowing that Janette struggled with a really awful ED at that time. I Know Nickelodeon does not care for the safety of their child stars, but somehow this is the thing that always felt like a personal jab specifically to the actress. No wonder she didn't come back for the revival.
@@SiffrinISAT Jeanette McCurdy actually has an abusive mom? Were the show writers just listening to her therapy confessionals and thinking its comedy gold? In what fucking universe would you use an actual girls trauma for comedy on that level? The one who made this show obviously.
@@xenrusxenomorph2268 I think the mother hid her abusive traits so well that even Jennette sometimes had trouble accepting that her mum was abusive: she presented herself as a nice lady trying to help her daughter and as a cancer survivor (which she was), so it's possible most people thought she was just a typical stage mum. But the ED was obvious, if only for the hospital stays.
@@estrellagarciazamora8721 honestly... It's just saddening.. glad she is better though. But it knowing that.. it's.. just a sad twist of fate that she couldn't really escape it either way. Not until her mother passed and the show ended.
Not only is “Spencer doesn’t like to lie” already a reused plot, it’s also a continuity error now as one of his major episodes was him LYING that he was dead to sell sculptures
Honestly it’s really sad seeing Spencer’s character get more and more diluted. Like he was my favorite character as a kid because I think he really was a great older brother figure and it sucks seeing the show misunderstand what made Spencer so likeable and just slowly make him more and more of just a cartoon character. The show was better when Spencer was the heart.
@@-psilo-9071Spencer is basically the only one who goes into the revival better off than he ended the original, which is great for him as a character but just makes what they did to the others sting a lot more
This just makes the comparisons to Always Sunny even funnier considering that's actually a step further then Frank and Mac's sweatshop. At least they only exploited adults Sam went straight to children.
Having read through Jenette’s new book about her time as a child actor and then seeing the episode where Carly tries to make Sam and her mother patch things up makes it even more uncomfortable. It also makes me wonder if it was intentional in some way, I doubt it given the other behind the scenes shit that happened during the series revealed through the book but still it’s a weird parallel that makes the episode even more uncomfortable.
its really weird in hindsight but knowing that jennette idolized her mom way until after icarly had ended makes it seem more coincidental. but i dont think jennette would even rewatch icarly to reflect on that considering how much she wants to separate herself from the show
If you are wondering about how the Pear Phones work in this universe and how videos and images are shown. The intro of "Sam & Cat" shows many clips of them together on what seems to be a Pear Phone, and yes they are all either zoomed in or have a specific pear shaped format.
Headcanon is Spencer actually stopped trying to be an artist because of all his failures in the past. He only got back to it when he remembered the little squirrel sculpture after Carly left. He must've been terribly bored, too. So he got back to doing that and that's how we connect to him becoming a millionaire in the new iCarly.
Watching Icarly and understanding Jeanettes circumstances puts a hole in my stomach, she’s such a kind and compassionate girl from what I can tell in interviews and deserves respite from her childhood fame.
She has a podcast now called "Empty Inside" where she discusses difficult topics with people. It's very interesting to listen to and I can recommend it.
Where we started: "I broke the first half of iCarly away from the second half because they feel like different shows" Where we ended: "I spent 9 hours talking about 5 episodes of Sam and Cat because I ran out of time"
As Spencer stares at the burning squirrel, he smiles, and lets it fall. As the blaze spreads onto the carpet and further beyond, he reflects, his greatest work, his magnum opus, is finished and on its way to florence. Now, as after all projects, it is time for the cleaning up. And what better for it than the cleansing flame, a beacon of light he has taken steps to ensure will be left to do it's work.
I feel like instead of making Spencer a loser with no adult friends. Instead of giving Socko a bunch of family members that Spencer only knows through Socko and isn't really friends with. Just make them all Spencer's friends who aren't related to Socko. Spencer being friends with a bunch of people with pun names with very niche jobs (they're all basically "I know a guy" characters) who have no relation to eachother and it's all just a coinceidence is really funny to me. Instead of Socko's cousin, Carson who can help the gang get a car, it's Spencer's friend, Carson who can help the gang get a car
Oh, You think in the beginning that Rob is a robber, but later on, you discover that he was faking it all this time and actually was an MI6 agent and is a Bobby (police officer in British slang)
19:36 this bit has strangely been very helpful for my anxiety, because whenever im having an irrational fear like "ohh what if she doesnt like me" "what if someone breaks into my house" Psychic Quentin comes to me saying YEAH WELL WHAT IF SHE WAS HUFFING PAINT THINNER.
Oh same, funnily enough i am jewish and have imposter syndrome about it sometimes and now quinton comes to me speaking words of wisdom, telling me im jewish. Thanks quinton!
As someone who still uses HDV tapes to this day the sheer joy I felt at the "this is something a 13 year old would get for Christmas in 2007" bit was immense. That was VERY accurate, I got my first Prosumer camera when I was 13 and used it for like, everything.
man listening to quinton in this ending segment with the foreknowledge of the 11 hour victorious review to come is like watching a scene in a horror movie where you wanna warn the main characters of the impending danger from your side of the screen but you know it is useless for they will not/cannot heed you.
Honestly Sam joking "yeah and my dad once told my mom he was coming back" and the awkward silence that follows being broken by Sam moving on is too real. As someone from a bad home, there are a lot of times when you make a joke or tell a "funny" story and change the subject upon realizing that everyone else knows it's really really sad lol
totally, it reminds me of the times I tried to make a joke about my father's death. People just stay silent and give me pitiful and uncomfortable looks. Like, come on, laugh, you're making it worse! Then again maybe it's that the jokes weren't that funny..
@@sofiipote7 I literally came here to tell the EXACT same story! Whenever it comes up that my dad died when I was in high school, people get real sad and awkward about it. I have tried to play it off by joking about it just so that the conversation can continue as it was. It has never worked.
@@missybarbour6885 seeing the way people looked at me when the topic came up is what made me avoid the topic entirely, or if I mention it I just don't look at the other person, because seeing pity or awkwardness in their eyes is so fricking annoying. Everyone is going to die, so you better get used to the topic lol
This sums up most of my life. Even at 21 there are still jokes I make about my life that are more sad than funny, and only realizing just how sad when I see peoples reactions to them. It sucks ass.
That “fan war” episode was the heterosexual prototype for certain episodes of Sherlock and supernatural... “Lol look at these crazy fans, they’re stupid and insane because they’re so invested in the ships that we have deliberately manipulated you the viewers into being invested in”
I was just thinking about that, it was such a long running thing in supernatural especially to overtly mock the fans starting all the way in s4…..like the show runners were bitter they had a fan base of teen girls.
@@morgenlich It’s kinda like they didn’t want teenage girls to be their target audience so they mocked them. Just like every other instance where teen girl fandom/interest get ridiculed
1:35:56 For anyone confused on the joke there, the dude who plays Nora’s dad is also the dude who plays as Charlie’s uncle from Always Sunny, who’s main gag is that he is inconstant edge about if his hands are too small lol
You honestly could’ve gone straight to the iCarly reboot and no one would’ve complained, but no, you’re going to watch and analyze the entirety of Victorious and Sam and Cat for this project. I applaud you.
I always felt like Tbow was hanging out with them cause he was more Spencer's friend than Carly's and he's not gonna be a jerk to to his friend Spencer's little sister, it also makes more sense for him to be at Carly's birthday party and such
Yeah. My one and only complaint about Quinton is how he kinda... Makes things seem way worse than they are by taking cartoon logic painfully literally? Like, this is a kids show. I promise Tbow isn't some creepy predator for hanging out with the main characters. He is literally just comic relief.
@@gkgkgkkfkfleowpwppwpwpwp7221 I do think there is something funny about taking cartoon logic and explaining it through the lens of a serious analysis video tho lol
If that Gibby fall story is 100% legit, it NEEDS to be on the wiki page for on set accidents in film and tv. Like that's serious shit that should be mentioned
That only applies if you believe it was an accident. I, for one, believe there's no fucking way you ask someone to bellyflop onto the ground with no protection and don't know EXACTLY what you're doing. He didn't have any wires, the floor wasn't rubber (and/or bouncy like in WWE stages). Nothing. They just fucking told the stunt double to jump and he did.
Maybe it was "intentional", but I seriously think the person was forcing in some way to do that or something like that. Maybe the person was forced to do it unprotected for some unknown reason, I don't know.
@@HinatasxDude i mean apparently there WAS some padding but it just wasnt thick enough to protect him. also i feel like a trained stunt man could definitely do that stunt without getting injured (on a corridor crew video where they had a stuntman react to stunts in movies he said hes done a similar stunt) its just that some things can go wrong
My headcanon is the other side of the attic door is the way to a third room that is either storage for Spencer's art supplies, or a bedroom set up for their dad in case he comes home
Your theory: Carly's dad has a secret second family Show canon: Sam and Freddy's dads both ran away from their insufferable wives My theory: they all have the same dad
Early iCarly: Spencer dresses up as an old aunt to trick Neville into signing back the rights to his little sister's webshow while avoiding the advances of a creepy old dude. Late iCarly: Freddy likes trains.
I've always sort of disagreed with how ICarly ended. Carly was with Spencer and her "found family" for years, and while she loves her father and hasn't had much time with him, she's nearly an adult and her early adulthood would be better spent in Seattle among her friends and opportunities, rather than on a military base in another country where the best she can get is a military college education and a local or online job that may not serve her well in the long-term. I understand the feelings involved, but I think were I Colonel Shay I would have insisted Carly stay in Seattle since (it would appear from my outside perspective), my military service wouldn't go on for too much longer and I'd be retiring in a matter of a few years' time (unless I were a career military man, in which case dragging Carly along with me would be either short term or it would ruin her prospects long-term).
At least by the revival, she's back to living in Seattle with Spencer and Freddie (sadly Sam and Gibby aren't there anymore) with Harper and Millicent joining the group.
"No child who is abused by their parents owes their parents ANYTHING" Who else is crying in the 4hr iCarly review? Just me? Thanks Quentin, your videos keep getting better and better
for the continuity error where their dad is first in the navy and then in the air force, I believe they actually have two dads, and thats why they also never mention their mom.
Was it ever explained how Freddie developed feelings for Sam? Sam talked about how she fell for Freddie but I don’t remember Freddie explaining why he liked her back.
@SukiNoKoe it really does. I rolled my eyes at Quinton's preference for Seddie. Carly and Freddie deserve each other and I'm so happy they get together in the revival.
@@BrendanJSmithI do too. I mean… Quinton has a right to his own preference, of course, but the show goes out of its way *so much* to show that Sam would be an abusive girlfriend to Freddie, that the idea of it fulfilling the “sitcom enemies to lovers” trope in iCarly is… kind of ridiculous. Like, for me, I think a better idea is that if Seddie were to happen, have both Sam and Freddie bring out the best in each other-have Sam become calmer and less reactionary due to both Freddie *and* Carly’s presence, and have Freddie become more protective and confidant with Sam. To be honest, a couple of ideas I thought up when watching this video is that a good scene could be Sam defending Freddie from Mrs. Benson by telling her she’s being overbearing and is doing more harm than good with her actions, which shows how she is empathizing with Freddie more (and, if this happened prior to them dating, it could end with Freddie gratelfully and happily stating, “No one’s ever defended me like that before,” indicating he might be developing feelings for her) Similarly, another scene (perhaps after they start dating) could have Sam admit she hates her home life but doesn’t know what to do to leave it, and Freddie proposes that when they both come of age, they’ll get an apartment together so they can leave their old, toxic families behind. And granted… even as a Creddie fan from day one, I do admit I see a lot of issues with Freddie ending up with Carly too, since while I think she is nicer, some scenes do imply Carly is more of a “passive” version of Sam (i.e. instead of directly hurting him, she just let’s him be hurt or is opportunistic about using his issues for comedy). Ultimately, though, I kind of feel like this is a bit of a continuous flaw of Dan Schneider’s writing-regardless of the man himself and what he has done, he can’t seem to write sitcom relationships that are, in essence, dysfunctional at best, abusive at worst, and try to play it like it’s just a dark form of comedy.
The Gibby head was definitely one of those things where it cost the prop department way more to produce than was worth it so they shoehorned it in as much as possible to make up for it
Does anybody ever think about how the motorcycle that Spencer gives Sam was originally a gift from Carly, and that the motorcycle represents the Shay siblings, and the love and support they always gave Sam from the time she was 8 years old? Is anybody else crying over a kids show that ended over a decade ago?
One of my favourite parts of Sam and Cat is how attached to the motorcycle Sam is throughout the show, and for this reason specifically. Just goes to show that years later, even if Carly and Spencer don't appear in the show, Sam hasn't forgotten about them and still cares for them
Thank you for talking about Sam and her mom and the whole issue with it. As someone who was abused by my family and gaslit into believing that they did those things *because they loved me* I genuinely cannot rewatch this show without a filter like this because honestly Sam's whole ordeal as well as Freddie's reminds me of my own experiences as well and after reading Jennette's book it makes it so much worse. Great video ❤
As a kid i actually thought T-bo was in a relationship with Spencer. So everytime spencer kissed someone i would be there expecting T-bo to have an argument with him.
I identified heavily with Sam as a kid, as I also have an abusive single mother and even lived with my friends for months at a time. Watching your video actually made me realize Sams character had a direct hand in some of my behavior as a preteen- I was beating up boys at school. A lot. I thought being loud, angry, and "tough" was cool and admirable. Looking back though, Sam was a straight up bully and so was I. I wish the show had better messaging around her abuse and better character growth for her so that other kids out there like me could've seen it. Also the "violence is funny when it's a girl doing it to a boy" thing in kids shows (and media in general) HAS TO STOP. This is why men who are abused don't come forward and why abusive women see their behavior as acceptable. Ugh I'm actually mad one of my favorite shows as a kid did us so dirty. I'm glad my nieces watch Stephen Universe instead.
I agree big time! However, I definitely wouldn't say Steven Universe sets a better example at all. Characters often lash out irrationally and I feel like a lot of plots are more the creators venting (which isn't bad! I just feel it's implemented poorly in SU) rather than the characters actually dealing with things in healthy ways. It's not played for comedy (most of the time), which is a step forward, but it still deals with heavier subject matters extremely poorly in my opinion.
If I were to disagree with a single thing about your opinion on “haha girl beat up boy” jokes in media, I would be either dense or an alien named ±|щ№-ъ of Planet §.
@@lizardirl9488 I think that Steven Universe's issues are more "niche analysis fodder" than anything that could distort a child's understanding of consent or abuse or emotional intelligence.
The "violence is funny when it's a girl doing it to a boy" is way more apparent in loads of anime, unfortunately. Almost every harem comedy glamorizes it with cute effects. Seeing it in live action is all the more glaring.
Re: the "We're ambivalent to this" bit for the stunt actor's injuries and the follow-up, any stuntmen I've known have said that if they die in a stunt they want the footage used. Dudes are usually pretty hardcore about putting blood into their work, so I'd hope the Gibby line was just a way of honoring that ethic.
I just have this image of a stuntman being wheeled off set on a stretcher and as the producer frets over his health just being like "promise me... promise me you'll make a joke about this..."
@@ember9361 Ok so "They're all eager" is definitely an overstatement and it's more like "Everyone does their best (unless you're on the iCarly set) to make sure you're safe, but if you get injured doing a stunt then you use that take" I think some part of this attitude is because part of stunt work is looking authentic to actually-being-injured so if you get *actually* injured then there is no better take you can use
I've heard the story of a stuntman who completely dislodged a finger and didn't realize, and when he realized he just "oh"'d and snapped it back in place, and that's not th most dangerous thing he did. Stunt people are a different breed
@@EngineerLume i mean it's also down to a lot of stuntpeople being treated like shit by directors who don't know what they're doing. lost limbs are freakily common, stuntwomen in particular have a hard time working in intense physical conditions within extravagant sexualized attire where no cushioning material or protection equipment can be placed in. sadly a lot of people *don't* do their best to make sure you're safe, bc their priority *is* getting a good shot, and you often won't get the job if you don't first sign a contract waiving their responsibility for any injuries.
"I'm not covering the reboot." Oh good, take a break from all of these shows, it'll probably do you good. "I'm going to cover Sam And Cat." Oh god, that's going to be tough and miserable, but at least there's not too much of it. "I'm missing half the context, however." Quinton stop!
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Thank you for putting me on to CJ the X's channel, idgaf about iCarly but I dig your presentation style and was watching your first iCarly video which led me to search for a video about that song they did in the limo which allowed me to discover CJ the X as he did a vid on iCarly too and while that topic still isn't a point of interest for me his media analysis in general is some of the most brilliant shit I've ever seen on RUclips so thank you for putting me on
Why is the lore wiki always on the Johnmas page?
You need to blacklist other people using "http" in their posts my man, got some heavy spam in the replies today.
Hey Quinton, just letting you know I'm 40, so I actually get the Geraldo Rivera chair joke. Not sure who else will, as I feel I'm the older part of most YT audiences. Great work, glad the drive thing wasn't an issue in the end, or that you got past it by just doing it all over again. You're my favorite new sub this year, and a possible patronage. Huge Garfield fan too.
"Noah looks like an adult now, so the writers no longer find his nudity entertaining."
DAAAAAAAAAAMN
I had to read that back to fully realize the implications of that sentence. One of the few time a comment just repeating a quote from the video has actually been a good thing
Fortunately, Noah gets to return to his shirtless antics in The Goldbergs.
Damn, Daniel! Back at it again with the p3d0ph1l1a
What if in the revival, he's buff and does it?
@@ivygirl9119 that would be genuinely hilarious, just this incredibly jacked dude busting through the door and yelling “GIBBEH”
There's probably an iCarly writer out there who is really glad someone noticed that Carly made goat noises while having a claustrophobia attack.
The same writer is probably sweating hoping that nobody remembers the episode where Carly, Sam and Freddie are in that mock-spaceship compartment. Nice continuity.
Edit: I get it, I was wrong. I didn't remember the space episode that well, and this comment was meant in a jokey way.
@@felixgrayrussell He didn't talk about that episode right? Or did I miss it
@@YaamFel No, I was hoping he'd bring it up but it's such an obscure thing to remember through six seasons.
@@felixgrayrussell it was in the first video he did :D
@@felixgrayrussell pretty sure carly actually mentioned the spaceship episode during her panic attack. so the continuity was still (kind of?) there.
Actually, hang on, I have a second comment. What I don't get is: why didn't they, instead of having all those jokes about Spencer not having adult friends, just... have him and T-Bo be friends? It gives T-Bo a reason to hang out at the Shay apartment, it gives the writers a new dynamic to work with, it gives Spencer a friend that can appear on screen. It'd be perfect. Just give them a bromance. It's that easy.
I mean, personally I wouldn't have made Spencer get kicked out of the book club either. You know what's funnier than "Spencer has no friends"? "Spencer actually has loads of friends that we just don't know about because the show is about his little sister". Just imagine gag after gag about large groups of people who know Spencer, and in increasingly weird or oddly specific niches, and the rest of the cast has no idea who any of them are. Instead of making Spencer into "weird man-child who can only hang out with teenagers because they're about as mature as him" they could have made him what I think he originally was: "Cool older brother who has his own fun and quirky life in the background".
This would have been so much better!!!
agreed, it wouldve given him depth deeper than the audience forgetting that he is, in fact, a grown adult
*suddenly remembers Socko* did...did they drop him as a friend?
I like the idea of it being implied there’s a whole different sitcom playing out in the background that we never get to see except for small references.
I bet Kramer and Spencer would hang out if they knew eachother
Ion like how they clown Spencer for his book club and “feminine” activities. He’s simply a renaissance man, he enjoys making art, cooking good food, reading fine literature, and wasting time on pointless inventions that solve small problems in a complex way. And we in turn all know this is why Spencer gets bitches.
He is tall, kinda hot and lives in a huge apartment in Seattle so that might also help.
"a renaissance man"
I love that description. 10 out of 10.
Spencer is love, Spencer is life
i'd be down for him not even kidding
They make fun if him for cooking good food and find it feminine, and yet they still eat everything he cooks for them.
actually T-Bo hanging out with them makes sense if you just imagine that he’s Spencers Boyfriend for the last three seasons
you're so right
OKay... How should we call that ship?
S-Bo
Sounds more realistic than him dating Mrs. Benson, even thought they live together🤣
Oh hell yeah. This is canon now
Considering Jennette McCurdy’s tumultuous relationship with her real-life mother, I find the Sam’s mom episode even more uncomfortable and kind of cruel.
abuse victims don’t owe their parents anything - neither Sam nor Jennette McCurdy
I was thinking the exact same thing. The detail of the food, when her real mother was a significant source of her struggles with an ED, also hits in a really sickening way.
yeah i'm p sure the writers didn't know about her personal struggles with parental abuse when they wrote the episode lol. you guys are acting like the writers knew about her personal life and intentionally wrote the episode based off of it lol
@@inyrui Yeah, I mean working with the kid for years they're never going to even get a hint that things are bad at home.
@@inyrui Right. Because television producers are FAMOUS for only ever upsetting or mistreating child stars by ACCIDENT.
Watched the Victorious video before this one, and I gotta say, the iCrime counter vs the statutory rape joke counter really just perfectly defines the difference between these shows
And it’s such a stark contrast to watch the two iCarly videos and only *occasionally* see something offensive or creepy. Like it’s often enough to raise eyebrows and remind you that Dan Schneider was behind these shows, but in Victorious, it is shockingly constant in every episode. It’s like they felt emboldened.
Same and same. I watched the Victorious episode first and Yikes, the difference was stark
LMAO
I do wonder why iCarly didn't have half as many weird "writer's fetish" moments as Victorious
@@HammerToFall13194 Because by the time they did Victorious, they felt they could get away with anything.
"I could easily make a standalone video talking about Victorious..."
Was it? Was it really that easy, Quinton?
“A stand-alone” just the one?? Is that so, quinfield??? Only one?
He didn’t know it at the time but it would be his most viewed video ever
Even with all the Drama it was worth it🥰🥰🥺🥺
1 year earlier: "I could easily make a standalone video talking about Victorious..."
1 year later: "In part 2 of this 13 hour retrospective I'll prove why Jori is endgame."
i’ve been putting off watching his analyses bc they’re long and i wanted to be able to watch them in one sitting and when i went to check how long his victorious video was my jaw dropped lmfao. good for me tho i fucking love long content, and quinton is incredibly well spoken
Quinton yelling at Sam about her being Jewish has the same energy as Woody telling Buzz that he is a toy.
“YOU HAD A BAT MITZVAH WHAT DO YOU MEEEEEEEAAAAAN”
@Dope Cat Not all it's hyped up to be, tbh. Don't be aphobic.
Lmfao
@Dope Cat Non-v!rgin aces, fading out of existence
What the fuck happened I these comments what-
"this is the most normal and therefore boring season"
"the iCarly cast creates a sweatshop, kidnaps someone, Gibby kills an old lady and acts like Agent 47 at a party, Spencer sexually assaults someone"
Yep, that’s pretty normal.
almost sound like a Always sunny in philadelphia season
@@Raph584 Doesn’t help the fact that Nora’s dad was played by Uncle from that said show .
@@Raph584 I've never seen iCarly, so for most of these videos I got the impression that this is what it'd look like if someone tried to make a kid's version of It's Always Sunny (it also helps that there was literally an episode of IASIP where the characters open a sweat shop)
@@Raph584 It’s always cloudy in Seattle.
imagine how Jeanette must have felt as an actress and a person after being told that she would get to meet, and work with, the iconic Jane Lynch, but only if she acts out her real life trauma with her openly abusive mother.
I'm curious how Lynch felt/ if she was aware of the abuse as well..
@@Mid-iala my guess is if the production asked Jane Lynch to play Sam's mother, they most likely didn't tell her about Jennette's situation to avoid Jane not accepting the role (now i obvously don't know Jane Lynch but i would hope she would've turned down thet role if she knew it could have caused pain to Jennette)
PS: i apologize if my english is bad, it's not my first language
@@letiziavisintin5603 Jane Lynch often plays rude characters, but from an interview I saw about Glee, she's kind irl and any decent person wouldn't take the role
@@letiziavisintin5603 Just wanted to say your English was really good in this comment. It was easy to understand
@@Mid-iala At that point in Jane's life she was married to someone with a preteen daughter. That preteen daughter probably watched iCarly. I don't think it was that deep. She was just doing kid friendly version of Sue Sylvester that her preteen stepdaughter could watch.
Ah, the "Every single joke is actually just a harrowing portrayal of abusive relationships" arc of iCarly.
ok but "himbecile" is genuinely the funniest insult i've heard so far in this show
A time where “himbo” wasn’t in the public vocabulary
A himbo precursor
ahead of their time
himbecile (affectionate)
It’s a god tier term we didn’t appreciate at that time
Nathan Kress' actual opinion on who Freddie should end up with, "If [Freddie and I] sat down and had lunch, and he was talking to me about these girls that he just couldn't decide between and there were so many great things about both of them, knowing what I know, I would probably recommend he move to another country that's not Italy and just start over and find a girl that is actually into him without having to push himself in front of a taco truck... And also one that does not constantly verbally and physically abuse him."
This is the only correct answer
wait did you find this in an interview? do you happen to have a link
Ah, he supports Frappy.
he’s right
The best answer. I enjoy the dynamic of the group more when they’re all platonic to each other too.
Carly making goat noises when she’s claustrophobic is some genuine lore that I never caught until you pointed it out LMAO like WTF did that goat do???
a fool asks questions they cannot hope to handle
That goat messed her up
What the goat doin?
i remember them having mentioned her claustrophobia was due to the space madness incident at one point. did I make that up?
@@WildSableye I thought the space madness was her getting claustrophobic and panicking and they just called it that, but idk
Honestly Freddie's mom being racist would make too much sense
*clumsy profiling in her case
If not racist, then at the very least so much of a stuck-up Karen + so out of touch with other people around her that she simply fails to empathise or care to compromise on anything. Her neuroticism is made out to be a laughing matter than a serious matter - as with most things in this show. But yeah, it does make sense and it made click in my brain when Quinton mentioned it because I don't even know whether I ever had the oppoturnity to watch that far
Writing Sam’s mother an abusive parent is alarming. The writers and producers essentially capitalised on Jeanette’s struggles personal life and forced her to re-enact it in front of the entire world. That’s just gross to begin with.
I don't know if she was re-enacting it exactly. Cause while yes it is fucked up that both the actress and the character Sam had an abusive mom, they were abusive in different ways (except for the pageant thing). Sam's mom was more physically abusive and distant and seemed like she didn't really care about her daughter, the pair always fighting. Jennette's mom was more like Freddy's mom, being overly clingy and controlling. And at the time Jennette didn't realize it was abuse. She thought she and her mom were best friends and worshiped the ground she walked on. Her mom would manipulate her by crying and playing the victim whenever Jennette did something she didn't like.
I'm willing to be that it's pure coincidence especially since abusive/absent parents seemed to be a common thing in iCarly. Also, despite everyone on here saying that the people working on iCarly probably knew the abuse, I honestly doubt it. Abusive parents are not exactly easy to spot unless the person being abused talks about their experiences. And from what we know Jeanette, at that point of her life, hasn't realized that she was in an abusive relationship. Abusive parents are pretty good at seeming like just overly protective parents with clingy children. If it was so easy to spot abuse, no one would've even been shocked at Jeanette's confession. Just cause we're seeing things in a different light in hindsight doesn't mean that those things were apparent/obvious back then. And I'm not defending Dan. He's a piece of shit. But it's tiring seeing people make conclusions that everyone was just in on it and wanted to make Jeanette relieve the abuse she endured behind closed doors for the laughs when we have no actual concrete proof to say that.
Don't forget the episode where we find out that her mother used to force her to do beauty pageants. Painfully, painfully close to reality.
The whole *child abuse as a joke* trend in this series is deeply alarming and horrifying.
i didn’t even put that together. even if it was just some crazy coincidence i can’t help but imagine what jeanette was feeling during this point of her life.
“Hey do you sell smoothies?”
“Do- Wha?”
I won’t lie, this actually made me chuckle.
@@ameliacid4146 The new I Carly is astonishingly bad.
I was stunned.
I love the T-bo scene with the taco shells and the stick
@@loturzelrestaurant
It's super accurate to working fast food or food/customer service
Lemme tell you the amount of dumbasses coming in and not even being able to read the menus as its presented over them in bold letters
Sometimes people are really that headass
Agreed! I carly did fall off really hard
Theres some good stuff laying around in the series.
@@phataldestroyer I did that once at Dunkin donuts. "do you have coffee" sigh
@@katatat2030 oh yeah, we all have that happen. As a retail worker that goes one of two ways. You hit them with the T-bo “Do we what?” And they either double down or the go “did I really just do that?” If they double down on their question it’s a frustrating encounter. If they say they realized it was a stupid question it could be a humorous experience.
Among the huge issues with the treatment of Sam and her actress, Jeanette McCurdy, one of the ones that bothers me the most and that I often think about is how Dan Schneider insisted her character be obsessed with food, despite knowing that Jeanette was struggling with an eating disorder at the time. It's so unnecessary, cruel, and comes across as an attempt to control a young teenage girl who was already really struggling. As well as her real-life manipulative and abusive mother being an underlying factor to her eating disorder, and the show seemingly using this in her character with Sam's abusive mother. It's just plain gross and it bothers me that the network and other adults involved in iCarly production allowed this, and the other maltreatment that took place.
This never even occurred to me 😩
I don’t believe her ED was common knowledge at the time.
@@ExitStatement I'm sure the studio knew. A lot of studios even pushed it Thinking of disney and demi lovato.
I remember watching this as a pre-teen and my mom coming in the room asking why sam in particular was so skinny (she was a nurse) and stated it looked unhealthy.
It's actually funny now because sometimes my parents would make comments about these shows like "why are they dressed so grown?" etc. and I would brush it off as lame parents but now as an adult, I see why my parents were wary because they could see how these studios were selling these literal children as sex objects and abusing them.
I watched Jeanette mcCurdy's podcast on youtube and I'm happy she's take a break from acting to work on other projects she's passionate about and that shes doing better now.
@@sydneyjordan2452 i agree, but i’m concerned she’s still not in a good place. she has a lot
of rage and resentment. hopefully she can work through it and find some peace.
I noticed this too. Gross
something that really got less and less funny as the show went on was spencer occasionally riffing on sam and freddy for spending no time in their own homes while the show reveals in more and more depth how sam and freddy both live in deeply abusive and emotionally damaging homes, which spencer knows because he has met both their mothers
I don't blame that in Spencer, I blame that in the writers being...weird
And dated Freddie's, btw
@@tinyteacupzz I believe that was only in the "what if" Christmas episode.
T-Bo not knowing who Michelle Obama was and flirting with her is actually a really funny and endearing T-Bo moment
Okay but it's legit kinda hilarious that the sweatshop plotline basically ends with the children unionizing and seizing the means of production
That's because you, unlike the creator of this video, has a functioning sense of humor.
@@fantom5894 taking it too seriously IS the joke
@@fantom5894 That's the joke, genius. The point is he's taking it way too seriously.
I think this guy doesn't like quinton reviews 🗿
@princeparkook Is it? I thought it was actually supposed to be serious. Are all 24+ hours of Quinton's NSU content supposed to be satirical? I wasn't getting that at all.
The scene where Gibby "dies".... the way the man bounced and was so still after... I thought, without a shadow of a doubt that that was a doll. Even during this video I thought "oh please, it was just a dummy." The fact that he was a real human that suffered those injuries is mortifying. And that the cast and writers crack(ed) jokes about it is sociopathic.
I myself thought the same thing! Like there HAD to be some kind of mattress there or a dummy because there’s no way anybody would just allow a man to bellyflop onto CONCRETE. That made me laugh as a kid… and now knowing that man went through so much pain for my entertainment makes me sick
This is also why "dummy dropping from the ceiling" and associated gags are so funny, because you can really launch those guys *and* no one actually gets hurt.
I also know he was young when it happened and as we've learned filming a Nickelodeon tv show can expose you to stuff that can really alter your world view and tragically make kids grow up far too fast, but Noah didnt seem too phased talking about that stuntman's accident on that podcast which is kinda grim. Heck im not even like trying to give the guy a hard time ive gone through some grim things and responded even hours later with dark jokes or muses on the situation but its still kinda uncomfortable to say the least
What’s worse to me is that Gibby was always supposed to conjure laughs. Like anytime he was on screen, we were conditioned to laugh. So when he (the stuntman) fell, the first instinct is to laugh, since it’s a kids show and it’s GIBBY. Then we are faced with a reality where we laugh at something the writer’s always knew was actually horrible-and they enjoyed that
I also thought it was a dummy because that's.... literally what you're supposed to do at that grand of a fall. Hell, a lot of kid shows couldn't even afford stuntmen so they would use dolls and it was pretty obvious by the absolute ragdoll-ness whenever they would throw the dummy around. So I thought surely they would do the same, even though I thought the "dummy" looked too human. But I refused to believe it was an actual person because it wouldn't make sense that you'd make an actual person fall from that height... right??? Well this video opened that can of worms
I agree that male sexual assault is very often used as a punchline but I think in iCarly it's not "funny because he's a guy" it's "funny because it's sexual assault" because literally everyone in that show has been sexually assaulted repeatedly for gags at some point.
that's fair, but i think they let it get more overt and unavoidable when it's men.
True and I think that because a lot of it’s guys is cuz Dan Schneider is gross but doesn’t want write something too close to home too often.
It’s a combination of “funny because sexual assault” and “we can get away with it because male victim”.
Say whatever you want about the writing team, they're equal opportunity sex offenders.
boo hoo. sa is funny
I hated the later confirmation about Sam having pretended to be Jewish all along, because I was actually totally satisfied with the idea that she was just trolling the therapist and trying to piss off her mom by denying their faith in front of her.
I don't know, I now have a head cannon that the reason she had a star of David in her locker is because she would impersonate Rebecca Berkowitz and get her in trouble constantly, and Berkowitz does sound like a Jewish name
Also it would've been a very funny tie-in to the Jewish characters of Glee
ewwwwwww
@@AvastYourAssss What? What's ew? Jewish people? Grow up.
Could make an insane Jewish in-joke about faith denial and Bob Dylan, but tbf that’d be a bit highbrow for icarly
Poor Jennette, like her acting career is full of so much shit. Went through an eating disorder and survived an abusive mother and COINCIDENTALLY, the character she plays on iCarly and also Sam & Cat is super into eating food and constantly talks about how bad of a person her mom is? Like, how fucking sick is that? She already went through so much trauma and it was like she was reliving the entire thing during her acting career. No wonder she doesn't want to go to the revival, her entire character is just a big traumatic trigger. Not to mention she had to survive fucking Dan Scheider, that fucking creep. There's videos of him going up to the cast of Victorious and they look borderline terrified. I saw one where he goes up to Cat and Jade (who are obviously out of character) and Jade quickly whispers to Cat saying that Dan was coming and they both look so uncomfortable during the entire thing.
I respect Jennette's decision and really hope she can move long get better. It must've been so awful. . .
Almost makes you feel bad for liking Sam as a a character, because she’s essentially a fucked up version of jennettes own life. I can say I hope she gets better and starts a good career in directing
@ashy she didn't say Sam is full of shit she says her acting career is full of so much shit. Meaning she went through a lot.
@ashy idk if English isn't your native language but use context clues next time
@ashy what
Sam was my favorite character growing up because I too had an abusive family life, and the other adults in my life just didn't care at all. It helped me cope with the abuse by making a joke out of everything, and helped me survive long enough to grow up and GTFO. I wouldn't say anything cringey like her role in a tween's TV show "sAvEd My LiFe" but I'm not ashamed to say I was inspired. It breaks my heart to hear that she suffered the same, and her suffering was made to be nothing more than a prop for teh funniez.
I'm glad she's not going if that's what it was to her, and I'm ashamed of myself that I never saw it from her perspective until just now.
that Gibby fall is so insane. I had seen it before and always assumed it was a dummy but having a stunt person take a face first bump, from what seems to be a pretty decent height, onto just...the floor of a set? thats just cruel.
You can even see the floor buckle and the floor panel come up a bit. I initially assumed they'd have padded it under a plyboard, kind of like pro wrestling does...but I guess not given his ribs.
@@LycoLoco in the full audio clip Noah says they did have padding but it was so thin it didn't even matter
@@RyB305 that’s almost worse lol
i- head first? jesus, that'll suck. i literally hit my head at quite a slow speed not too long ago and my head is killing so jessus
It's quite possible that man's body hasn't been the same ever since. I suspect there still might be a few vital organs functioning abnormally from the fall.
The continuous subtle implication that Gibby likes men throughout this show is such whiplash compared to its treatment of Nora and how she kissed that girl in iPsycho
The most annoying thing about the Jewish continuity is how easily it could have been fixed. Keep the joke, just change the punchline to "It's ok, we're not that kind of Jewish" or "It's okay, we don't keep kosher". Simple, easy, barely even a rewrite.
Or just have someone call her out in a later episode then have her say she didn't want to say she's jewish to a cop because they're all nazis.
Infact, I think would've been funnier coming from sam if either of those two lines were said. Just the thought of sam having a specific devout ruleset to her jewish heritage makes sense
I really like the first one. Its actually kinda funny to me.
As a naturally unfunny person, the way idve written it is to have Sam's Mum's first comment in the therapy box to be 'We ARE Jewish', only for Sam to say 'Yeah, but the joke wouldnt have worked otherwise' as a 4th wall break, and then the scene just plays out as normal.
@@farshnuke I don't think the iCarly writers would make dialogue _that_ cringy
Wouldn't it be funny if Carly and Spencer never had a mom, but two dads one who was in the Air Force and the other who was in the Navy.
Ok but this actually would’ve been a great way to address it in the reboot. Technically, they still can but they already kind of had Carly make a brief comment about her dad being in the navy and then the Air Force within the first couple moments of the new season 😭 who knows what we’ll find out
This is canon now. I've decided.
no.
@@rfabsulous
YES.
Somehow having somebody from the Air Force and somebody from the Navy having a romantic relation let alone being married would be the least realistic thing about this show because both of those branches absolutely hate each other
Spencer being an artist and progressively becoming popular would have been such a good storyline like in Gossip Girl, and it would have been an amazing ending for him and carly as well
that is now happening in the iCarly reboot, Spencer is rich from all his sculptures
@@RangeRover-BoxingQueen yeah but i think they meant in the original icarly
i mean in the new icarly he does get famous from his work after carly goes to france with her dad. i think its while shes on the base with his dad his work gets recognized. and during her college days.
I wanted Spencer and Carly to kiss.
@@justicedemocrat9357 they are brother and sister
My ex spouse was an active duty member of the US Navy. One of the benefits of being an active duty member of the US military is something called BAH, which stands for basic allowance for housing. Basically, if the military member is stationed anywhere separately from their family, the US government sends the family a lump sum of money every month which is calculated based off of the living costs of the area the family is living, and it's intended to be used to cover all of the family's living costs. I always assumed that was where the Shay's got the money for their apartment and all their bills and food.
@@natk4017 I'm 99.999% sure this was my actual lived experience
If they gave you a smaller amount than expected, would you respond with "BAH humbug"?
@@natk4017 imagine someone being like "yea so this is what happened in my life" and you decide to tell them that the thing they lived through didn't actually happen lmao
@@natk4017 I agree
The housing cost for that amazing apartment would take up around 75% of those monthly funds because that place was probably $3,000-$4,000 rent. They'd only have 25% for bills and other living expenses. This doesn't make sense. It's ridiculous.
The writers were kinda evil. They liked torturing the actors. You talked about the stuntman incident where the writers made a joke about Gibby having broken ribs in the fall when they know the stuntman did break ribs and had to go to the hospital. They wrote that in as a reference that only the people on set would know it’s just to be evil. And then everyone has mentioned Jeannette McCurdy who they directly reflected/exacerbated the poor home life and ED of. Why? They could have made her trait anything they didn’t HAVE to make her obsessed with eating, they didn’t HAVE to make her mom abusive in the show. But they did-because it effected her. It made no difference to the audience. The writers were truly cruel (and to the people saying they didn’t know I don’t believe that for a second, first of all because it’s so perfectly parallel and second because I don’t think it was hidden very well or intently, especially from producers in fact Jeanette blatantly said her mother was openly abusive on set and she was hospitalized MID SEASON for ED. Yes they knew.)
To defend the writers Sam would’ve had those traits whether or not Jennette was cast I think you’re kinda looking to deep into that
@@danielgraham1082 So do you think its just pure coincidence that Sam has many of the same traits that Jeanette herself had? You can't be that obtuse.
@@DevanLund No I’m not saying that Sam wasn’t inspired by Jennette at all but shows are made and written before casting even happens so to say that what I said isn’t possibly correct would be pretty closed minded and Ignorant
@@DevanLund also you don’t have to like your own comments
@@danielgraham1082 why not?
Hearing Quinton say "and the bees sting him in his penis" like an exhausted newscaster is funnier than anything that happened in the show
for real I nearly choked on water
SAME this line gets me every time
Seems very unnerving how they seemed to purposely use plot lines in the show as a way to make Jeanette uncomfortable. Not just the food thing but also the role of her mom in the show.
Right!!! Knowing the stuff she has shared in her podcast, it retroactively makes a bunch of episodes feel even more gross. It’s like, too uncomfortably on point to feel like a coincidence. And the writers are already so mean spirited in their writing that it doesn’t feel out of the realm of possibility at all that they knew or found out about some of these things about her life and decided to use that as a basis for how they wrote Sam’s character and stories throughout the series. It’s so uncomfortable to watch and I can only imagine how awful it was for her to have to act that out and not really be given any choice to change the situation.
@@AloisKomaeda makes it worse thinking about the episode where she’s basically forced into apologizing to her mom even though she’s in the wrong
@@philmahoiters9982 and when they had a major plot point of one episode being that Sam's mother used to force her into pageants...
Yikes
Yes! I’ve heard people make the food/ed connection but not the abusive mom connection. It’s all just so wrong
@ᴀꜱᴜᴋᴀ ᴀꜱᴜᴋᴀ In her book she talks about hating acting from the beginning and her mom forcing her into it. She quit pretty soon after her mom died.
The show joking about Sam being forced into pageants as kid like mirrors Jeanette's life.
2 things I'll never forget from the prank episode:
1) The way Spencer said "It was just a praaaaaaaank!"
2) The song that played in that episode. It was so catchy lol. 🎶 You think it's all over but the joke is on you! 🎶
I swear that song is a played a few different times throughout the show
@@-psilo-9071It is. It plays in the background of maybe half a dozen or so scenes throughout the series
Ok same. Like I’ve had nightmares hearing Spencer say the word prank over and over again lol
it’s an all night party that we’re getting into
Lol the "It was just a praaaaaaaaaank" is even funnier with how the teen actor mouthed it.
Also love the prank song. Def was played on Victorious as well so they must've really liked that track.
sam's "binge" eating makes me so uncomfy now considering jeanette's eating disorder
totally but it's also just a weird joke that it's funny but endearing that sam likes "junk" foods but like fat characters are seen as a joke inherently
@@mirazelkowitz8861 100% agree, a lot of uncomfy stuff happening there
As a child with a weird relationship with food I couldnt watch the fat cake episode bc the part with sam guzzling fat made me so uncomfortable. Obviously it wasn’t actual lard but the idea of jeanette having to film that makes me feel really sad
seriously. it makes me so sad for her, i can’t imagine what it was like to go through that.
also, as the first reply said, sam constantly binge eating junk food still appearing very thin and “attractive,” (by nickelodeon at the time’s standards,) yet still insulting fat characters, is SO damaging in SO many ways.
@@roxypicasso66it’s a joke dude
And there’s a lot of people like that who eat a lot but don’t get fat
One thing I find weird about the Sam and Freddie relationship is that it's implied that the reason Sam was always mean to Freddie is because she secretly liked him and didn't know how to process her feelings. But it's shown that she still has these same violent tendencies even after they start dating, they just aren't directed at Freddie anymore. Which kind of implies that these previous attacks on Freddie weren't actually because she liked him, but because Sam is a very damaged person who is prone to violent outbursts. So the show kind of accidentally deconfirms it's own reason as to why these two get together in the first place. I'm definitely over analyzing, but it's just kind of weird that they did that.
Nah I don’t think you are overanalyzing, I always felt that it was implied that she just has these outbursts bc she has anger issues or something, not because she would like anyone. The whole Sam hurts Freddie bc she likes him trope feels to me like it was just made up by the shippers as an excuse and the writers ran with it.
The show never really implied she hurt him because she liked him. Freddie claims she does, but she denies it.
I mean, there's no reason she can't be getting violent urges because she likes Freddie. It's just when she's dating she doesn't want to take them out on him...But that could be just giving the show too much credit.
@@rosalierowan I kind of hate that trope in general, it gives me an icky feeling. It always felt like romanticizing abuse to me
@@royalblanket ppl say in real life too
if i had a nickel for every time i watched a four hour video about icarly, i'd have two nickels. which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice
@@monkeysgottoshithispants6517 ...which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice.
If I got a nickel every time someone said these "If I had a nickel"-Sayings I Would have become a billionaire...
last year 10 years ago.
The "So your room burnt down! 🤷🏿LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE! 🗿" joke has stuck with me my whole life.
You know what's sad? iCarly had many bands and preformers on the show, yet they DIDN'T have Big Time Rush on it. It's like Nickelodeon wanted BTR to fail tbh
So one of the guys in btr was already in the show, he was Freddy’s friend in season one I think. So idk how they could bring btr on the show without it being mentioned that he was someone else in the universe lol.
@@sarraphinasorrow Victoria justice had an episode dedicated to her as a different character, nobody would’ve cared
@@sarraphinasorrow The actresses for Tori and Trina both made appearances in the fighting episode and the Nora episode. Freddie’s actor also just shows up in a Victorious episode to watch a play, don’t think they cared
The sad thing is Nickelodeon actually put Big Time Rush on an episode of Marvin Marvin, the failed TV show that barely lasted a season.
Big time rush wasn't created by Dan Schneider, that's why. I bet he refused to let 'his girls' (you have no idea how gross I felt writing that. They're children Jesus Christ) get anywhere near these cute nice boys. Alternatively, and what by far I hope what happened, is that they had ppl looking out for them refusing to let the boys go near Dan. Unfortunately, knowing the level of power he was given and having experience with abusers, I find the first more likely. :(((
Honestly, you announcing that you're doing a long ass Victorious analysis is one of the biggest bombshells and most pleasant surprises that I've ever seen a RUclipsr do. Get some rest, man. You deserve it.
Especially the part where he says he's already 2 hours into it.
While you wait, CJ the X did a great long form vid on Cat Valentine
@@mcquizzer106 collab when
@@mcquizzer106 was coming here to say this, really hope these two can collab
He did it and it was awesome!
as someone that was so obsessed with icarly as a kid that i had an icarly birthday party, i can confirm that the broken happy meal toy cheers when you press one button, and boos when you push the other. i’m sure y’all were on the edge of your seats waiting for this answer
yes i was, thank you friend
This is actually some really nice closure, thank you
What happens if you push both buttons...at the _same time?_
@@davidhong1934 i just imagine the sounds of the pits of hell opening up
@@davidhong1934 takes a screenshot
I have a very dumb theory. The reason Spencer accidentally sets things on fire is that he secretly has pyrogenesis and suffers from power incontinence. Him setting the squirrel sculptor on fire in the finale is him learning to control these outbursts.
this is hilarious😭
shut up
Well theres a chance Henry Danger is in the same universe (one of the villians is basically confirmed to be Cats brother) which would make this a possibility. Super powers are cannon in the Nick universe.
One of my takeaways from part 1, having only ever caught an episode here and there, is that Spencer Shay is definitely some kind of demigod
Spencer being a mutant would be a amazing x-men movie
Couldn't think of a better way to spend my day than watching another 4 hour long iCarly video
Yep, just ordered some food to make it a party
^^
*Same !!!* 😊
Honestly lmfao
samd
When you mentioned Socko’s extended family and specifically Rob, I realized that Rob essentially was presented with two choices when he was born. Robert can be shortened to Bobby, which is a nickname for police officers, or it can shorten to Rob, and I applaud Rob for going the way of the career criminal. You do you, buddy, stick it to the man!
He could've also been Bob The Hairdresser (:
@@goldberry2121 oh my god you’re so right
He could have been a tax collector...Rob.
Cops and Roberts
@@Charlie_Azrael i love you
I didn't ship Creddie because I thought it was boring but I didn't ship Seddie because it was horribly abusive. I watched iCarly because I loved their friendship as a trio. I had no idea there was such an intense ship culture around this show until I watched these videos.
As much as I love icarly, it was also the show that sparked my hatred for shipping culture. Especially when it's between two clearly incompatible characters. If I was ever to create a show of my own, there would only be well defined and STABLE relationships from start to finish, no room for shipping space whatsoever!
Although I guess you could argue that my theory mandates a sort of pseudo-shipping where I insist upon certain relationships over others. This just can't be easy 🤣
@@rickenman9844 that doesn't stop all shippers lol
Some will make up relationships between characters who have no chemistry or ship them all together or something else
shipper's gotta ship XD
@@mrh8142 True. It was just so frustrating to me as someone, while not wishing any ill will toward either Sam or Freddie, who realizes that not only are their personalities simply incompatible with one another, but their emotional history already has too much baggage to overcome (years of physical abuse suffered by Freddie at Sam's hands for example).
@@rickenman9844 oh yeah definitely. Imo they should not end up together and if they did, they'd both need therapy (and not with the therapist that worked with sam and her mom)
The "I want all of these actors to never do anything bad so I can continue to enjoy this show that doesn't have a creator" gag hits a lot harder after the Schneider video
I'm replying to your comment because I too come from the future
My mans talked about iCarly for 8 hours, and didn’t mention Dan Schneider or feet ONCE!
That takes either immense talent or sheer force of will. Kudos Quinton, kudos.
He's planning a whole video about the Danster later on.
It's low hanging fruit
@@Direk091 Very much agreed.
@@anone.mousse674 Ahhhhhh, okay.
He blurred out Dan's face in the one scene he was in (the mechanic in the finale)
I've now watched 500 minutes of iCarly dissection and review, which is funny I guess.
Im disappointed I get the joke
Lol
Did you honestly spend like 10 minutes calculating both QR videos on icarly just to make this joke?
Did you honestly spend like 10 minutes calculating both QR videos on icarly just to make this joke?
@@dragonslayer101 10 minutes? This isn’t exactly complicated maths, and I say that as someone who’s sat through enough linear algebra and real analysis I’m not entirely sure how using numbers instead of weird Greek letters actually works.
I feel bad laughing at the stunt man falling, but the “GIBBYYY” always gets me so bad, just the way he yells and immediately hits the ground as the scream finishes. I hope he’s doin well now and that he got compensated for all that shit
I'm not 100% on this, but Apparently he wasn't actually injured. He was wearing impact pads. His name is Dustin Courtney and his most recent role was in the Matrix resurrections.
@@Door_Into_Summer So his most recent role was on a movie produced BEFORE iCarly was ever a thing? Yeah, not buying that one.
@@antipsychotic451 sorry meant resurrections.
His sacrifice was not in vain
@@Door_Into_Summer Noah Munck was on a podcast where he recounted the story. He said the stunt man ended up with like broken ribs, and an ambulance had to take him away
I knkw this video is like a year old but I wanna try to shed some light on the injured stuntman situation. I'm not in the industry of stunts but as far as I know, there's a sort of pact or unspoken rule in stunts where if a stunt performer gets hurt doing a stunt (and it still looks good) that's the take you should use in the final cut. It's like a respect thing for the stunt performers if they were to get injured.
I've heard this as well. there's a scene in back to the future II, when biff and his gang are launched through big windows of a building, and you can see one of the stuntmen (woman, in this case) not actually hit the window, but the side of the building, where she falls and crumples to the ground. she survived but was so seriously injured! and it's in the movie! and there are many stories about films like that. I feel as though it's due to the unspoken agreement to use the take, as well as it just being more convenient to use that take as opposed to taking the time to find new stunt doubles to film another one. as unorthodox as it sounds, the show really must go on.
That's so werid why would someone want that?
@@-psilo-9071a handful of reasons, I’d assume.
1. Can you imagine getting injured for nothing? Maybe it’s just me, but I wouldn’t wanna go through all that trouble and then get nothing out of it.
2. It would kinda feel insensitive to just replace someone like they’re just a prop, especially if said person went all out for the show.
I dunno those are just my guesses
if you get paid to do dangerous stunt for movies you know what you signed up for.
@@j.2512 Stunts for movies should not be dangerous, they should just look like they are. But if that ever even injures one person, the stunt is not worth it.
By this half of the show it feels like the writers are honestly writing characters with serious trauma and attachment issues, but they think they’re just writing quirky kids
Writing what they know
It's unfortunate that society looked at troubled youth that way up until rather recently. That episode with Sam's mom would be portrayed VERY differently in 2021, at least assuming Dan isn't the one writing the script of course.
Honestly, Sam's character is extremely tragic when you really stop to think about it.
its even more tragic when you find out that jennette had an ed while on the show, when one of her main personality traits is always eating food
@@Romans10.9-13 mind pointing to where we could read about that ?
@@mushroomkaat2667 she has a youtube channel under her name and podcast called empty inside
Fun-Fact 1:
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her character is kinda like Hyde’s character in that70show (at least for the first few seasons of that show)
"I'm not covering the iCarly revival". Good. If you tried to tackle that on top of everything else you've done recently, I'm pretty sure your entire body would explode like Agent Smith in the end of the Matrix. Take care of yourself, Quinton.
When will he call out Dan Schneider for his crimes?
@@whodatninja439 He did in the last video. I think?
@@platinumdiamond7 not to my knowledge. He kinda glossed over it.
I hooe Part 3 will be the Crimes of Dan Schnider
@@whodatninja439 Don’t worry, he’s making a vid about the whole situation surrounding Dan .
@@BugsyFoga Dan Schneider Fallen Titans maybe?
the fact that when i was little i always thought the actors were living their dreams, being able to act in these tv shows. it always looked so fun but then hearing janette’s story i was shocked. she had to “act” as if her mother was abusive when in reality, she was much more than that. heartbreaking.
Funny how iCarly literally pulled One Direction (at their peak) for an episode, but it wasn't nearly as memorable as the time they got the guys who sang Hey There Delilah
put some respect on the plain white t’s this instant
That's because that wasn't One Direction at their peak lmao
Also...I'd argue it was pretty memorable but I have no clue honestly
I don't even remember the plain white t's episode except for the fact that they performed at the end. The one direction episode I can tell you the exact plot line.
i had forgotten 1D was in icarly. wtf.
@@soph996 maybe I'm stupid but I swear 1Ds peak was then just after X factor when that's what makes you beautiful came out. Maybe that's just from a UK perspective though
I find extremely weird the focus that the writers put on Sam eating junk food constantly... knowing that Janette struggled with a really awful ED at that time. I Know Nickelodeon does not care for the safety of their child stars, but somehow this is the thing that always felt like a personal jab specifically to the actress. No wonder she didn't come back for the revival.
#JeanetteDeservedBetter
Between that and making Sam's mom MORE abusive as the show went on knowing she had an abusive mom is...yikes
@@SiffrinISAT Jeanette McCurdy actually has an abusive mom?
Were the show writers just listening to her therapy confessionals and thinking its comedy gold? In what fucking universe would you use an actual girls trauma for comedy on that level?
The one who made this show obviously.
@@xenrusxenomorph2268 I think the mother hid her abusive traits so well that even Jennette sometimes had trouble accepting that her mum was abusive: she presented herself as a nice lady trying to help her daughter and as a cancer survivor (which she was), so it's possible most people thought she was just a typical stage mum. But the ED was obvious, if only for the hospital stays.
@@estrellagarciazamora8721 honestly... It's just saddening.. glad she is better though. But it knowing that.. it's.. just a sad twist of fate that she couldn't really escape it either way. Not until her mother passed and the show ended.
I will now be abandoning the word Himbo in favor of the word Himbecile
himbo is complimentary while himbecile is derogatory. you can have both!
Not only is “Spencer doesn’t like to lie” already a reused plot, it’s also a continuity error now as one of his major episodes was him LYING that he was dead to sell sculptures
Honestly it’s really sad seeing Spencer’s character get more and more diluted. Like he was my favorite character as a kid because I think he really was a great older brother figure and it sucks seeing the show misunderstand what made Spencer so likeable and just slowly make him more and more of just a cartoon character. The show was better when Spencer was the heart.
Agreed
🎶mr peanutbutter🎶
I miss when his art mattered. That is something the revival focuses on, at least, though.
@@-psilo-9071Spencer is basically the only one who goes into the revival better off than he ended the original, which is great for him as a character but just makes what they did to the others sting a lot more
He was also my favorite character, considering we share a name.
Freddy: “Sam deserves love more than anyone in the world!”
Sam: *literally opens an illegal child sweatshop*
Idk if that makes Freddy worse for enabling that
I get around this by imagining he’s talking directly to janette McCurdy
This just makes the comparisons to Always Sunny even funnier considering that's actually a step further then Frank and Mac's sweatshop. At least they only exploited adults Sam went straight to children.
Having read through Jenette’s new book about her time as a child actor and then seeing the episode where Carly tries to make Sam and her mother patch things up makes it even more uncomfortable. It also makes me wonder if it was intentional in some way, I doubt it given the other behind the scenes shit that happened during the series revealed through the book but still it’s a weird parallel that makes the episode even more uncomfortable.
its really weird in hindsight but knowing that jennette idolized her mom way until after icarly had ended makes it seem more coincidental. but i dont think jennette would even rewatch icarly to reflect on that considering how much she wants to separate herself from the show
I was looking for this comment! So many things about the show get even worse after reading her book
@@Hannahgs I was too! It really makes everything even worse
Watching these episodes or being reminded of iCarly in any way must drum up more trauma for her. Ugh!
@@Hannahgs ikr? I was rewatching this video and everything weird felt even weirder
If you are wondering about how the Pear Phones work in this universe and how videos and images are shown. The intro of "Sam & Cat" shows many clips of them together on what seems to be a Pear Phone, and yes they are all either zoomed in or have a specific pear shaped format.
Headcanon is Spencer actually stopped trying to be an artist because of all his failures in the past. He only got back to it when he remembered the little squirrel sculpture after Carly left. He must've been terribly bored, too. So he got back to doing that and that's how we connect to him becoming a millionaire in the new iCarly.
The what?
@@beesree39 iCarly Reboot
@@kanavwastaken what?
@@heat_death7 lmao it took a second for me to get the joke
he whatds in the rebeoot. He’s a fuckifn whaht now he,,, e his ,millionedn??
"I'll fire my femenidiot if you fire your himbecile"
Ngl thats one of my fave lines from the show i just like the puns
Watching Icarly and understanding Jeanettes circumstances puts a hole in my stomach, she’s such a kind and compassionate girl from what I can tell in interviews and deserves respite from her childhood fame.
She has a podcast now called "Empty Inside" where she discusses difficult topics with people. It's very interesting to listen to and I can recommend it.
Yea when I saw her picking at some ham last vid it broke my heart
Where we started: "I broke the first half of iCarly away from the second half because they feel like different shows"
Where we ended: "I spent 9 hours talking about 5 episodes of Sam and Cat because I ran out of time"
As Spencer stares at the burning squirrel, he smiles, and lets it fall. As the blaze spreads onto the carpet and further beyond, he reflects, his greatest work, his magnum opus, is finished and on its way to florence. Now, as after all projects, it is time for the cleaning up. And what better for it than the cleansing flame, a beacon of light he has taken steps to ensure will be left to do it's work.
This is masterful writing. I love it.
Fuck, that‘s good
I cried.
Too bad the fire department won't do anything about it.
I feel like instead of making Spencer a loser with no adult friends. Instead of giving Socko a bunch of family members that Spencer only knows through Socko and isn't really friends with. Just make them all Spencer's friends who aren't related to Socko. Spencer being friends with a bunch of people with pun names with very niche jobs (they're all basically "I know a guy" characters) who have no relation to eachother and it's all just a coinceidence is really funny to me.
Instead of Socko's cousin, Carson who can help the gang get a car, it's Spencer's friend, Carson who can help the gang get a car
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@@blackpan577 so true man
Making a lame icarly joke into something funnier and not mean spirited is something really easy it seems lol
It is so sad how shows like this are just to the left of being good and fun.
Oh, You think in the beginning that Rob is a robber, but later on, you discover that he was faking it all this time and actually was an MI6 agent and is a Bobby (police officer in British slang)
19:36 this bit has strangely been very helpful for my anxiety, because whenever im having an irrational fear like "ohh what if she doesnt like me" "what if someone breaks into my house" Psychic Quentin comes to me saying YEAH WELL WHAT IF SHE WAS HUFFING PAINT THINNER.
this comment changed my life
Oh same, funnily enough i am jewish and have imposter syndrome about it sometimes and now quinton comes to me speaking words of wisdom, telling me im jewish. Thanks quinton!
As someone who still uses HDV tapes to this day the sheer joy I felt at the "this is something a 13 year old would get for Christmas in 2007" bit was immense. That was VERY accurate, I got my first Prosumer camera when I was 13 and used it for like, everything.
man listening to quinton in this ending segment with the foreknowledge of the 11 hour victorious review to come is like watching a scene in a horror movie where you wanna warn the main characters of the impending danger from your side of the screen but you know it is useless for they will not/cannot heed you.
This is literally exactly how this feels wtf
thinking about the video he’s probably working on now,,, :(
Honestly Sam joking "yeah and my dad once told my mom he was coming back" and the awkward silence that follows being broken by Sam moving on is too real. As someone from a bad home, there are a lot of times when you make a joke or tell a "funny" story and change the subject upon realizing that everyone else knows it's really really sad lol
totally, it reminds me of the times I tried to make a joke about my father's death. People just stay silent and give me pitiful and uncomfortable looks. Like, come on, laugh, you're making it worse! Then again maybe it's that the jokes weren't that funny..
@@sofiipote7 I literally came here to tell the EXACT same story! Whenever it comes up that my dad died when I was in high school, people get real sad and awkward about it. I have tried to play it off by joking about it just so that the conversation can continue as it was. It has never worked.
@@missybarbour6885 seeing the way people looked at me when the topic came up is what made me avoid the topic entirely, or if I mention it I just don't look at the other person, because seeing pity or awkwardness in their eyes is so fricking annoying. Everyone is going to die, so you better get used to the topic lol
This sums up most of my life. Even at 21 there are still jokes I make about my life that are more sad than funny, and only realizing just how sad when I see peoples reactions to them. It sucks ass.
Relatable content 👌🏽
That “fan war” episode was the heterosexual prototype for certain episodes of Sherlock and supernatural... “Lol look at these crazy fans, they’re stupid and insane because they’re so invested in the ships that we have deliberately manipulated you the viewers into being invested in”
Wow. That’s really accurate
I was just thinking about that, it was such a long running thing in supernatural especially to overtly mock the fans starting all the way in s4…..like the show runners were bitter they had a fan base of teen girls.
@@morgenlich It’s kinda like they didn’t want teenage girls to be their target audience so they mocked them. Just like every other instance where teen girl fandom/interest get ridiculed
I've also made that connection. So it wasn't an accident
@@mist9798 Yeah.
1:35:56
For anyone confused on the joke there, the dude who plays Nora’s dad is also the dude who plays as Charlie’s uncle from Always Sunny, who’s main gag is that he is inconstant edge about if his hands are too small lol
You honestly could’ve gone straight to the iCarly reboot and no one would’ve complained, but no, you’re going to watch and analyze the entirety of Victorious and Sam and Cat for this project. I applaud you.
I always felt like Tbow was hanging out with them cause he was more Spencer's friend than Carly's and he's not gonna be a jerk to to his friend Spencer's little sister, it also makes more sense for him to be at Carly's birthday party and such
Yeah. My one and only complaint about Quinton is how he kinda... Makes things seem way worse than they are by taking cartoon logic painfully literally? Like, this is a kids show. I promise Tbow isn't some creepy predator for hanging out with the main characters. He is literally just comic relief.
@@gkgkgkkfkfleowpwppwpwpwp7221 I mean... He does it for comedic effect
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exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
@@gkgkgkkfkfleowpwppwpwpwp7221 I do think there is something funny about taking cartoon logic and explaining it through the lens of a serious analysis video tho lol
If that Gibby fall story is 100% legit, it NEEDS to be on the wiki page for on set accidents in film and tv. Like that's serious shit that should be mentioned
That only applies if you believe it was an accident.
I, for one, believe there's no fucking way you ask someone to bellyflop onto the ground with no protection and don't know EXACTLY what you're doing. He didn't have any wires, the floor wasn't rubber (and/or bouncy like in WWE stages). Nothing. They just fucking told the stunt double to jump and he did.
@@HinatasxDude oh yeah, there’s no way that was an accident
@@HinatasxDude oh thank god someone else said it, I thought I was being totally paranoid about that!
Maybe it was "intentional", but I seriously think the person was forcing in some way to do that or something like that. Maybe the person was forced to do it unprotected for some unknown reason, I don't know.
@@HinatasxDude i mean apparently there WAS some padding but it just wasnt thick enough to protect him. also i feel like a trained stunt man could definitely do that stunt without getting injured (on a corridor crew video where they had a stuntman react to stunts in movies he said hes done a similar stunt) its just that some things can go wrong
My headcanon is the other side of the attic door is the way to a third room that is either storage for Spencer's art supplies, or a bedroom set up for their dad in case he comes home
That's why the foam weapons are in it. For their dad.
Your theory: Carly's dad has a secret second family
Show canon: Sam and Freddy's dads both ran away from their insufferable wives
My theory: they all have the same dad
There aren’t words to accurately express how much I hate this, and I hate this because it tracks.
The Greek Tragedy of Freddipus Rexson
Oh, I thought you were gonna say Sam and Freddie's dads ran off together hddkzhdjshsh
@@NerdyMariaMania This is the best ending
That sure does make the shipping more awkward
Early iCarly: Spencer dresses up as an old aunt to trick Neville into signing back the rights to his little sister's webshow while avoiding the advances of a creepy old dude.
Late iCarly: Freddy likes trains.
i dont think it could be said any better
Broke: *A straight ship with the main three*
Woke: Carly X Sam
Bespoke: All of them need so much therapy holy shit
The new I Carly is astonishingly bad.
I was stunned.
@@loturzelrestaurant it’s not that much worse then the later seasons of the original, honestly so idk what you were expecting
@@rashotcake6945 that comment was by a bot, btw
Bespoke: Spencer x T-Bo
carly and sam were my otp as a kid💀
I've always sort of disagreed with how ICarly ended. Carly was with Spencer and her "found family" for years, and while she loves her father and hasn't had much time with him, she's nearly an adult and her early adulthood would be better spent in Seattle among her friends and opportunities, rather than on a military base in another country where the best she can get is a military college education and a local or online job that may not serve her well in the long-term.
I understand the feelings involved, but I think were I Colonel Shay I would have insisted Carly stay in Seattle since (it would appear from my outside perspective), my military service wouldn't go on for too much longer and I'd be retiring in a matter of a few years' time (unless I were a career military man, in which case dragging Carly along with me would be either short term or it would ruin her prospects long-term).
At least by the revival, she's back to living in Seattle with Spencer and Freddie (sadly Sam and Gibby aren't there anymore) with Harper and Millicent joining the group.
Fun Fact: Nathan didn't actually record anything with the camera. He revealed that if he were to, he'd have to actually join the Camera Man's guild.
i knew the first part of him saying he never did anything with a camera for filming but not the camera guild thing
"No child who is abused by their parents owes their parents ANYTHING" Who else is crying in the 4hr iCarly review? Just me?
Thanks Quentin, your videos keep getting better and better
for the continuity error where their dad is first in the navy and then in the air force, I believe they actually have two dads, and thats why they also never mention their mom.
Good headcanon
Doubt it.
@@rainingtacos7529 over-ruled.
@@snusmumricken *HOLD IT*
Wait I got a better idea: the dad has a twin/clone🤣 or he switch jobs
Was it ever explained how Freddie developed feelings for Sam? Sam talked about how she fell for Freddie but I don’t remember Freddie explaining why he liked her back.
He likes the pain.
No, it never was. Big reason why the ship SUCKS lol
He likes overbearing, boundary crossing women kinda like his mom
@SukiNoKoe it really does. I rolled my eyes at Quinton's preference for Seddie. Carly and Freddie deserve each other and I'm so happy they get together in the revival.
@@BrendanJSmithI do too.
I mean… Quinton has a right to his own preference, of course, but the show goes out of its way *so much* to show that Sam would be an abusive girlfriend to Freddie, that the idea of it fulfilling the “sitcom enemies to lovers” trope in iCarly is… kind of ridiculous.
Like, for me, I think a better idea is that if Seddie were to happen, have both Sam and Freddie bring out the best in each other-have Sam become calmer and less reactionary due to both Freddie *and* Carly’s presence, and have Freddie become more protective and confidant with Sam. To be honest, a couple of ideas I thought up when watching this video is that a good scene could be Sam defending Freddie from Mrs. Benson by telling her she’s being overbearing and is doing more harm than good with her actions, which shows how she is empathizing with Freddie more (and, if this happened prior to them dating, it could end with Freddie gratelfully and happily stating, “No one’s ever defended me like that before,” indicating he might be developing feelings for her) Similarly, another scene (perhaps after they start dating) could have Sam admit she hates her home life but doesn’t know what to do to leave it, and Freddie proposes that when they both come of age, they’ll get an apartment together so they can leave their old, toxic families behind.
And granted… even as a Creddie fan from day one, I do admit I see a lot of issues with Freddie ending up with Carly too, since while I think she is nicer, some scenes do imply Carly is more of a “passive” version of Sam (i.e. instead of directly hurting him, she just let’s him be hurt or is opportunistic about using his issues for comedy). Ultimately, though, I kind of feel like this is a bit of a continuous flaw of Dan Schneider’s writing-regardless of the man himself and what he has done, he can’t seem to write sitcom relationships that are, in essence, dysfunctional at best, abusive at worst, and try to play it like it’s just a dark form of comedy.
The Gibby head was definitely one of those things where it cost the prop department way more to produce than was worth it so they shoehorned it in as much as possible to make up for it
even if the cops staying in their apartment isn't a crime, the cops using spencer's credit card to order pizza definitely is
yes but then that would make 70 icrimes and 69 sounds better
Icrimes were the main casts crimes tho, the psycho didn’t get on the icrime list
Does anybody ever think about how the motorcycle that Spencer gives Sam was originally a gift from Carly, and that the motorcycle represents the Shay siblings, and the love and support they always gave Sam from the time she was 8 years old? Is anybody else crying over a kids show that ended over a decade ago?
One of my favourite parts of Sam and Cat is how attached to the motorcycle Sam is throughout the show, and for this reason specifically. Just goes to show that years later, even if Carly and Spencer don't appear in the show, Sam hasn't forgotten about them and still cares for them
Im not cuz of the horrors
@@leaffinite2001 "cuz of the horrors" laughing helplessly at this phrasing, ty
@@_gremlinboy im not, guess why
@@leaffinite2001 ... is it because of the horrors?
Thank you for talking about Sam and her mom and the whole issue with it. As someone who was abused by my family and gaslit into believing that they did those things *because they loved me* I genuinely cannot rewatch this show without a filter like this because honestly Sam's whole ordeal as well as Freddie's reminds me of my own experiences as well and after reading Jennette's book it makes it so much worse. Great video ❤
I think the thing that hurt 13 year old me the worst with the finale is that it ends with Freddie saying 'and we're clear' which is just. Oof.
Yeah
espeaccially because the intro to every episode starts with him counting down like hes starting a livestream.
I felt like that was genius. Has the same vibes as That 70s show ending with the cast at a 1979 New Year’s Eve party counting down into the new year
@@sydneyrocks1999 Wow, that's true. I don't watch That 70's show, but I do agree.
As a kid i actually thought T-bo was in a relationship with Spencer. So everytime spencer kissed someone i would be there expecting T-bo to have an argument with him.
You are an icon.
Best ship in the show
i’m obsessed with you
Maybe they have an open relationship
love wins
I identified heavily with Sam as a kid, as I also have an abusive single mother and even lived with my friends for months at a time. Watching your video actually made me realize Sams character had a direct hand in some of my behavior as a preteen- I was beating up boys at school. A lot. I thought being loud, angry, and "tough" was cool and admirable. Looking back though, Sam was a straight up bully and so was I. I wish the show had better messaging around her abuse and better character growth for her so that other kids out there like me could've seen it.
Also the "violence is funny when it's a girl doing it to a boy" thing in kids shows (and media in general) HAS TO STOP. This is why men who are abused don't come forward and why abusive women see their behavior as acceptable. Ugh I'm actually mad one of my favorite shows as a kid did us so dirty. I'm glad my nieces watch Stephen Universe instead.
This ^^^
I agree big time! However, I definitely wouldn't say Steven Universe sets a better example at all. Characters often lash out irrationally and I feel like a lot of plots are more the creators venting (which isn't bad! I just feel it's implemented poorly in SU) rather than the characters actually dealing with things in healthy ways. It's not played for comedy (most of the time), which is a step forward, but it still deals with heavier subject matters extremely poorly in my opinion.
If I were to disagree with a single thing about your opinion on “haha girl beat up boy” jokes in media, I would be either dense or an alien named ±|щ№-ъ of Planet §.
@@lizardirl9488 I think that Steven Universe's issues are more "niche analysis fodder" than anything that could distort a child's understanding of consent or abuse or emotional intelligence.
The "violence is funny when it's a girl doing it to a boy" is way more apparent in loads of anime, unfortunately. Almost every harem comedy glamorizes it with cute effects. Seeing it in live action is all the more glaring.
I can’t be the only one who thought about how wildly that “David Schwimmer drowned” bit aged 🙃
Rest in peace, Matthew Perry 🫶
Re: the "We're ambivalent to this" bit for the stunt actor's injuries and the follow-up, any stuntmen I've known have said that if they die in a stunt they want the footage used. Dudes are usually pretty hardcore about putting blood into their work, so I'd hope the Gibby line was just a way of honoring that ethic.
I just have this image of a stuntman being wheeled off set on a stretcher and as the producer frets over his health just being like "promise me... promise me you'll make a joke about this..."
I’ll take that “they’re all eager” with a grain of salt because if true, that makes it so easy to abuse those people on set…
@@ember9361 Ok so "They're all eager" is definitely an overstatement and it's more like "Everyone does their best (unless you're on the iCarly set) to make sure you're safe, but if you get injured doing a stunt then you use that take"
I think some part of this attitude is because part of stunt work is looking authentic to actually-being-injured so if you get *actually* injured then there is no better take you can use
I've heard the story of a stuntman who completely dislodged a finger and didn't realize, and when he realized he just "oh"'d and snapped it back in place, and that's not th most dangerous thing he did. Stunt people are a different breed
@@EngineerLume i mean it's also down to a lot of stuntpeople being treated like shit by directors who don't know what they're doing. lost limbs are freakily common, stuntwomen in particular have a hard time working in intense physical conditions within extravagant sexualized attire where no cushioning material or protection equipment can be placed in. sadly a lot of people *don't* do their best to make sure you're safe, bc their priority *is* getting a good shot, and you often won't get the job if you don't first sign a contract waiving their responsibility for any injuries.
"I'm not covering the reboot." Oh good, take a break from all of these shows, it'll probably do you good.
"I'm going to cover Sam And Cat." Oh god, that's going to be tough and miserable, but at least there's not too much of it.
"I'm missing half the context, however." Quinton stop!
It’s like videogame industry crunch but he’s doing it to himself and releasing the entire elder scrolls series in one year
I'd like to note: he said he wasn't covering the reboot.... in this episode. He may be covering the reboot at the end of this all
He's definitely going to cover the iCarly reboot after Sam & Cat. Continuity-wise it makes sense
Actual conversation between me and my girlfriend:
Me: *singing the iCarly theme song*
Her: Why are you singing the iCarly song?
Me: Because I'm watching a 3 hour video on the seasons 4, 5 and 6 of the show.
Her: Didn't you watch this a few months ago?
Me: No, I watched the 4 hour video on seasons 1, 2 and 3.
Her: Do you like iCarly that much?
Me: I barely watched a full episode in my life, but I actually LOVE this youtuber.
Actual existence of my actual girlfriend. That I have.
I had exactly this conversation with my fiance
You should write scripts man you're good at telling stories
I had this exact conversation with your mom
big same here lol