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okay but the literal reconstruction of the gibby pilot??? talking with the people involved, getting photos never seen before, getting a cameo with the actual lines??? quinton this is fantastic, holy shit. your dedication is out of this world!
He even got someone to compose a fake instrumental for a hypothetical theme song before a snappy edit of Gibby falling after the credits. This man's truly a professional.
Given all the abuse they suffered, it's remarkable they ever treated anyone with any humanity at all. It's like the Russian army with better craft services.
@@elizabongwater I think it's in reference to the 911 calls that come through to her phone, which she promptly ignores/makes worse (can't quite remember the details)
its honestly big of her to say that! people always say 'the only way to cure your jealousy is to get what the other person has' but that's just not realistic a lot of times. i think she handled her jealousy so maturely despite the fact that it was... warranted. I definitely wouldn't have been able to handle it.
@@scottyb8392 what exactly did you mean when you say warranted? I’m sure you didn’t mean it in a bad way, but because so many people think this is a justifiable reason to hate Ariana in this situation, I’m going to take this time to educate people who are very misinformed. There is a lot of misinformation being spread around: 1. Ariana did not make more money than Jennette(Jennette literally disclaimed this in her book) 2. Ariana wasn’t just allowed to miss work because she was favored; she had it written in her contract(and as sad it is that Jennette wasn’t able to direct any episodes or do other projects like she wanted, she should’ve gotten that written in her contract) 3. Jennette was very mature and reflective in mentioning that most of the things she was jealous of Ariana for, were things she didn’t even want(like channel bags or a big pop star career). Yet if you look at the context of the chapter she talks about Ariana, you see that she was projecting all of her pain and anger from her mom, her eating disorder, her miserable job, and her anger at Dan Schneider into her jealousy of Ariana.
@@noncatholiccatholicrat6309 That’s your opinion, not a fact. Ariana being more promoted and given more freedom by their shared company gave her more opportunities which LEADS to a more lucrative business life, especially as they were both leaving successful shows to hopefully make an even more successful show. It’s very clear favoritism came into play with money as the motivator. Anyone would be sad in her position, I think for good reason.
@@noncatholiccatholicrat6309 I could be wrong, but I read it as saying Jeannette having those jealous feelings was valid. Ariana didn't do anything wrong, but as you clearly outlined, Jeannette had a lot of miserable things going on at the time. Her feelings, however misguided and projected, are valid. She had a lot to come to terms with.
I am now completely convinced this entire show was a plot against Jeanette. Lets take note- First, they promise to give her her own show, then take it away, then repeatedly promise she can be a writer only to again go back on it. Now, they've made multiple instances of things that Jeanette actually struggled with. A crazy stage mom, a comment by cat about eating too much, Sam literally binge eating and another comment about how she should stop drinking. If you've read her book, you know at one point, especially after her mom died, Jeanette McCurdy had a severe drinking problem.
I am only at 1:12:50 , but it also doesn’t seem like they brought that aspect of her helping kids on a similar track as she was on out into Sam and Cat. It might have been really cool if Sam in her babysitting could have sort of taken the role in the kids’ lives that Spencer had in her’s during iCarly.
I wish we could have seen that pilot or piece of it. In Sam and Cat, everyone looks way older than they're supposed to be. Having a time skip would have been nice
@@PDD555I don’t think it’s really that egregious. I mean Jeannette and Ariana were like 20-21 while this show was going on. While I do think Sam’s spin off show would have been better, 20-21 really isn’t that bad for people playing teens, it’s pretty normal. I actually think I would have a harder time watching a 21 year old Jennette play like a 30 year old Sam.
I know, these shows work when the characters are allowed the change for the better, which is what this old show would have clearly done well. But nope, we instead got pretty much 36 sets of 22-minutes of nonsense and wasted potential.
I’m glad Jennette’s book gave not only her the courage to reveal the atrocities she had to go through at Nick, but also gave courage to the other victims of Schneider’s bakery to have their voices heard.
@@bluewater6878 In curious about that too. It was released earlier this month and for a 5 hour video this must have taken awhile. If he did find time to read and incorporate it I applaud him.
“Sam and Cat did not ruin Nickelodeon, I just stopped being 10 years old” is one of the most powerful statements ever. Now I have to reevaluate my 9 year belief that Henry Danger ruined Nick
I watched Henry danger too back then because i thought it was gonna be the next lab rats ( super powers with technology in the mix, token black girl, neglectful mentor helping out the kids, ynow, all the good stuff/sarc) but after 2-3 seasons it fell off and changed Nick as a whole, for what kind of shows it made, Any show after that felt like Disney 2.0 but watered down, I couldn't tell the difference between the networks if i tried
I grew up with Drake and Josh (and kinda iCarly), but I didn't think Victorious ruined Nick because I was down bad for Jade whenever my sister watched it.
@@houselemuellan8756if she wrote a show with the same concept and had someone else play the lead (a different but similar character) i think it would probably be really cute and meaningful
I put a hold on the audio book and have two library cards, one library has it on hold for 6 weeks and the other several months 😅 I hope I get to hear it sooner than 6 weeks, I've watched several people talk about it in the meantime
I was gonna get the audible version with her narrating but some of the reviews say it was kind of flat and felt she was rushing thru certain parts so I'm torn.
Wow, legitimately sad that show where she's a guidance counselor didn't go through. That would be like, the perfect wrap up for her character. Gonna pretend it's canon.
@@carsausage apparently nobody has anything bad to say about him. He was basically a big brother to the icarly cast There’s no evidence to support this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the on-set behavior of certain people on icarly would have been just as bad as victorious if they didn’t have an older actor as part of the main cast
A year ago I got dumped by a guy while this was playing in the background. He told me he wasn’t attracted to me anymore and didn’t even bother to pause Quinton’s video to break the news. Worst of all he didn’t even let me get to the point where the Ariana vids play on the Shrek CRT before doing it. I’m glad to say that a year later I finally returned to finish the video and reclaim it as something to enjoy. Thanks for everything, Mr. Quinton.
Apparently the script for "Gibby!" was initially leaked by someone who won it in a "Nickelodeon Trivia Contest." No idea how official that contest was, but the possibility that Nickelodeon willingly gave away this trash fire script to an outside party for a contest makes the story behind it's discovery even more crazy. Either that or (more likely) some random Nick employee heard about their small town's unofficial Nickelodeon themed trivia night and was like "You know what would be an absolutely insane prize..." which is also crazy and hilarious.
I'm certainly not the first person to say this but watching this now and knowing that Jennette McCurdy was struggling with an eating disorder makes all the emphasis around food with Sam's character all the more fucked up.
@@meevins from what we are told, Jennette told HR and the directors to "knock it off with all the food" many times and nothing was done about it. im very sure the writers were aware and there was nothing they could do about it.
Knowing about her eating disorder, I've taken to watching carefully when she does eat on the show. And I've noticed that there are scenes where Sam is enthusiastic about eating but doesn't actually consume the food, or only pretends. For example, when she's drinking the root beer around Cat after she made the money man, you can see that she's not actually drinking any of it when she pours the liter bottle onto herself. Stuff like that. She also talks about the peanut butter on the hot dog, but you never actually see her eat it. (Though this may all be wrong and only seems that way because of Quinton's editing)
@@raymondkim3740 not to say that your observations are incorrect or that her ED didn't have anything at all to do with how she interacted with foot onset, and I'm very sure it was hard for her, but it's very common for actors not to eat prop food/to cheat eating it. Obv there are often multiple takes of any given scene, and if an actor chooses to eat, say, several bites of pizza in a take, they then have to eat that same number of bites of pizza again and again however many takes they do because takes need to have the same continuity. So, y'know, I don't think anyone-ED or not-would be too keen on chugging a bunch of root beer a bunch of times in a row. Also, a lot of the time the prop food isn't very good, ie is cold and gross from sitting around for ages. Just thought it was worth noting 😅
Yeah, I was thinking that too. Like, they could say that Gibby's in college and is trying to get his degree and certificate to become a counselor or teacher. And he ends up working at the same school he once went to for active classroom hours or something. And he ends up meeting these kids and becomes their counselor pretty much by accident. And the show is about the growth of these kids, as they grow closer to each other and to others outside of that small group. And the drama is about getting through school, figuring out social cues/rules/etc, and self confidence. And all the while they're also getting up to their own silly adventures that are a lot like the ones characters from iCarly and Victorious go through, but cause we're mostly following Gibby the joke is how awful and bizarre it would have been to be a counselor for either of those shows.
@@raymondkim3740 they kind of explore your last point in victorious, the guidance counselor character is always shown as being in way over his head, and his scenes actually still make me laugh to this day because imagining a real counselor going through helping robbie alone is inherently ridiculous. I also think the concept for that gibby show could have worked well in the right hands. It’s a shame it was… whatever the fuck that script was.
Russ immediately recognizing the pear pad, indicating that Quinton has ranted about it to him before, is one of my favorite small details of this video.
I actually feel bad for Dice's actor. Despite the writing, he really was putting in a lot of effort in his role and his timing was quite good. If he ended up on the right show I think he could've had a nice career boost. Hope he's doing good.
It's weird that in the pilot they get promised free hamburgers for life from inside out burger and then for the rest of the show go to a different restaurant for hamburgers.
Theory: Inside Out Burger gets its name because if you eat too many of them, they burn through your stomach lining and turn your stomach inside out, either giving you severe chemical burns and a trip to the hospital or killing you depending on how fast the ambulance gets there. The girls stopped eating there after learning this.
One thing that stood out to me in the IGMMD book is that when Jennette discovered she wouldn’t have the chance to direct an episode, she had a bad panic attack on set and collapsed. The actor who played “the boxer” as she writers picked her up and carried her back to her trailer, comforting her with the help of her makeup artist. Your point about Goomer being the heart of the show isn’t limited to the characters alone.
I love Goomer and that that actor - as someone older who could look at these traumatized young women with objectivity - was able to be there for her. But what I'm taking from this is the bit about Ariana collapsing under stress is just a bad jab at Jeanette. God, Schneider, she's already been the target of abuse for six years, and it's just exhausting.
I just read a little about the situation. Was the producer lying for expedience or did someone really threaten to quit over that? It doesn’t make sense to me, even if she did a bad job, it’s a single episode of a kids show. Why would you need to quit? Either they were being unreasonable about that or they didn’t like her. If they actually existed that is.
@@ShabazzTBL She was treated very unfairly throughout her time, not just then - and it could very well have been the guest director already hired who threatened to quit. We just don't know. We certainly know *Jennette* wanted to quit by then.
Watching this knowing that Jennette McCurdy originally wanted her own solo show but it was shelved because the basically forced Arianna into it explains a lot about how the show was going, even ignoring the other things that were going on in Jennette's life
I'm not sure how long Jennette's solo show would actually last though. Knowing what happened to Jennette behind the scenes, even later on, by my guess Jennette would probably want to leave acting immediately.
Right? I don't blame her and how she felt at all, quite the contrary. It must be tiring to see day by day how you are compared to your coworker, specially when your dream wasn't being an actress in the first place
Honestly I don't think it was so much that she wanted the solo show as much as she was convinced having her own show was a sign of true success after sacrificing so much to get it, only to be overshadowed by a breakout costar doing a far more mediocre premise, coupled with the loss of someone she was basically groomed into codependency with. (This is going off her book, of course, it's not like I know her personally)
@@estebangutierrez160 I mean, yes, but it would have been better as her solo I guess? like, at least she would be the star. i know she had a difficult situation and Im not saying if she did get her own show, it would be easy. just, the idea that they had to force another start into your own show bc they don't think you profit enough does make it harder
@@estebangutierrez160 Jeanette was happy cuz she was she showrunner. She wanted some control and they took it away from her. She wanted to do it. Even if you think it would’ve panned out badly, she wanted to do it. She wanted to leave acting after Sam and Cat sucked and they took away her chance at some form of control.
The weird thing about putting Sam and Cat together is they're both such heavily exaggerated characters that neither of them can really be the "grounded" one. They're each the kind of character that needs a more grounded character to play off of. Having too over the top characters being over the top together just makes things feel monotonous.
That’s why I’ve always defended “main character syndrome.” You need someone “boring” and relatable as your main character, side characters work because, like junk food, they’re better to consume in small doses. Almost every spinoff fails because people realise the sidekick they loved isn’t as lovable without the main characters. Those qualities that made them so special are quickly diminished when they’re constantly onscreen.
Noah has said he felt uncomfortable with the joke where the takes off shirt, which is why in the later seasons of icarly they stop doing it and there's that one scene where he specially mentions he doesn't do it anymore so, it's really messed up that they just made him do it again in the gibby pilot.
Quinton, I truly hope your okay now. You said this was the worst year of your life and this project was affected by it. Trust me, a 5 hour long video is NOT a disappointment, you make incredible videos. Thank you, and I wish you the best.
@@virtueofabsolution7641 lmao The only things LongBoi can annihilate are a box of donuts and the idea that media illiteracy isn't a barrier to valid criticism.
@@username1660 heeeey I thought you people are supposed to be body positive isn’t that bigotry or something In all seriousness Q is fine tho i haven’t followed him much it does seem like he has grown since that whole debacle. I’m honestly not sure if he has learned to appreciate drafting and literary consistency or if star wars was always just a sacred cow and goober politics sold the whole shitshow such as it was…and it _was_ a shitshow. Also that last sentence is absolutely bizarre. Are you trying to say that longmanboy is or is not media illiterate? Or that…it IS a barrier to valid criticism? Saying that he is the one who is somehow media illiterate? I honestly can’t tell if this sentence was meant to be indecipherable.
@@virtueofabsolution7641 If you make fun of the looks of others, yours are fair game. 'Don't dish out what you can't take' is a lesson the rest of us learned in kindergarten, ain't my fault y'all are a few years behind. That sentence was by no means incoherent, but the fact that you're having trouble with it does track with your support of 'critics' like Edgy Gas Mask Lad
@@virtueofabsolution7641 Your comments read like the poorly written quips of an edgy fanfic character, and the fact that is so obvious that you are trying so hard to proyect that image makes it twice as embarrasing.
You know they really had no excuse to undersell the iCarly half of the show, because like... Sam was in iCarly. She was half the face of it. iCarly was such a HUGE cultural phenomenon, they made news multiple times, and now here's Sam with a babysitting service! Literally surrounded by children as part of the entire plot, but the kids never react to her, they never get business BECAUSE she was from iCarly, what's even the point??
Yeahhh it’s very weird in universe with that in mind but like somehow the show almost made me forget that Sam is supposed to be nearly world famous considering the special in Japan
The funny thing is, they could have done something with that. Sam's extended vacation could've been set-up as her going back discover herself, being absolutely sure her e-fame would last and be this safety net to fall back on, but now she's hit by a very rude awakening that the world moved on and forgot about her. So when Cat is the only one to remember her, that could be seen as pathetic, she was on top of the world, then she's only remembered by a rando. And then it could be a recurring joke that only weirdos rememeber her, with how often she needs to sneak or put on a disguise.
I mean even Cat to a lesser extent, she’s still going to Hollywood Arts but she rarely performs? The only one I can think of off the top of my head was that Abraham Lincoln thing, which…
Goddammit. Quinton is the only person who can take 40 actual minutes to get to the main topic of a video and not get me mad because it's all interesting
1:25:23 I am sorry, but I just have to point out that this (the Brit saying “Cheers” as in see you later and Sam and Cat replying with “Seinfeld” and “Friends”) is a surprisingly good joke for a meta show aimed at toddlers.
I'm 95% sure this joke was stolen from Community. There's a moment early on in the show (would have aired a few years before Sam and Cat) with the exact same setup (a British character saying "cheers" to mean goodbye), followed by an American one-upping him with "M*A*S*H," before the British character responds with "Fawlty Towers, game over."
I can’t blame Jennette for feeling jealous of Ariana on set when an entire episode featured Ariana in a cute I Dream of Jeannie costume, and Jennette in an Ariana Grande costume.
@@HelloKittyUwW07 in Victorious yes, but when Sam and Cat came along and Ariana started to make a name for herself they began to favour her, they still made her character as dumb as she was towards the end of Victorious though which is still doety
I would think Jeanette wouldn't want to wear a costume like that after what Dan did to he. I doubt she was jealous, in fact she probably felt bad for Ariana.
Y'know, I think Goomer might be the nicest person in the whole NCU. From genuinely caring about his friends with 0 self interests, to being the only person who doesn't hate homeless people (In fact, letting one live in his car so he doesn't have to face the harsh weather's), whose goals are stuff like "Make his mother proud", I think Goomer is unironically the only person in the NCU who isn't a terrible person
I was gonna say that it's because he is neurodivergent and they didn't want to make such a character hateable But being fair, all characters seem mentally unstable
man you really undersell yourself when you apologize for lack of content. you are out here giving us 46 hours of some of the best content on this platform, genuine works of art with so much meticulous grueling effort put in. for free. like i cringe at the amount of things you do for these videos i could never do it. you are probably the most indispensable review channel out there. it goes to show the best artists always judge their work the hardest.
Its not good for the channel though, disappearing for months at a time could mean people forget him/stop caring, which could lead to the channel slowly dying.
the untitled Sam project was, according to Jennette McCurdy, supposed to be called "Just Puckett", and it was promised to her near the beginning of iCarly. then they added Ariana out of NOWHERE, so the only reason Jennette stayed on the show (to get her own spinoff) was ripped away from her. nickelodeon absolutely fucks over its actors and Jennette is literally such a perfect example
After reading the Jenette McCurdy biography, that next video is gonna hit like a truck. The Arianna section really brings that home. For Arianna, this was a fun little detour in her career, in a life of privilege where she could do or have anything she wanted. For Jenette this show was a miserable slog she felt obligated to do because she was forced into this life she had no desire for out of a twisted loyalty to her moms dream. And the one thing she wanted out of this was the chance to direct an episode, and the gutless cowards at Nick wouldn't even give her that.
I do agree with you about everything concerning Jenette. However I must say that Ariana is one of if not the most exploited Nickelodeon star, at least when it came to filmed scenes (that are public). It wasn't aired but on the website, but still, probably the grossest thing Dan Schneider ever made publicly. Absolutely not trying to downplay the other stars like Jennette that suffered as well. Who knows what went on behind the scenes other than what we've learned about, so I feel for all the kids who've worked there. I see Ariana and Jenette as victims.
@@xkawaiikristinx She's a rich girl who was determined to do whatever it took, including fetish stuff, to be famous. We can't pretend that Jeanette trying to pull her family out of poverty and fulfill the dreams of others was the same thing. For a sports analogy, you've got a Peyton Manning vs a Todd Gurley.
@@TacticusPrime I never said that, but either way Ariana just like Jenette was a child, so it's disgusting your blaming a kid when she possibly didn't even realize the true nature of it. Either way adults using children in this way is sick and just because she was rich doesn't justify it. I feel for Jennette's struggles throughout her life as well but it's not a damn contest. Again, both are victims.
@@xkawaiikristinx yeah. Both are victims. He never said they weren't, he is just trying to convey the difference and you're refusing to see it. One could walk away from the show and she would've been fine, probably barely even noticing it, while the other was in a very different situation that she clearly felt much worse about, and leaving on a whim was no where near an option. The fact that i don't have to name which is which because you knew as you read it should be proof enough of that. As for him being "disgusting" for "blaming a kid", the show aired in 2014, so 8 years ago. Jeanette is currently 30, and Arianna is currently 29, simple math would put their ages at 22 and 21 respectively. So you're trying to tell him that he's disgusting because people that have been legal adults for 4+ years are somehow children to you that can't realize the "true nature" of what they're doing? What's really obvious and disgusting here is that you're feigning sympathy for Jeanette because you're clearly way too into Arianna, thinking she can only be a victim, but you know that minimizing what Jeanette went through won't get you those likes you're so desperate for. So desperate that you'll call someone disgusting for not thinking an adult is a child. The nerve and ignorance needed to start insulting someone like that is insane, especially when you could've just Googled three simple things: the years Sam & Cat aired, their ages, and since you unfortunately seem to be clueless on this one... the age at which a person in America is considered an adult and not a child.
@@xkawaiikristinx if you need an example of how much of a hypocrite you've been, you finished your last comment with "it's not a damn contest" but began your first comment saying you feel for Jeanette BUT "Arianna is the most exploited nickelodeon star". Is it not a contest, or does that only apply when you don't want to make it a contest yourself, just so you can argue that Arianna had it the worst in your sad contest?
To be honest, Goomer's fight against the champion is the best episode of the entire series. The guy is dumb, but he's a nice person and fights for the honor of those who he loves. Is the kind of comedy character you can root for.
In all fairness, your haha content never felt like it’s disrespectful towards Janette. It usually felt like you’re making fun of the producer’s and writers for allowing it to happen. It also definitely made more people aware of the problem.
Yes, exactly! I was going to comment something similar. I’ve not read her book yet but from what I know about her I don’t think she would feel disrespected by anything Quinton is doing
Agreed. I never even watched these shows and I learned so much about the shit she had to go through bc of these videos. In general I never once thought any of his comments or jokes were ever at any of the actors' expenses but always at the producers and writers.
@@arthurdurham Ehh he kinda shits on Victoria Justice a bit too much. I get she's not nearly as talented as everyone else but her puts down what she can do weirdly often
TBH I would be down for that, but would not have anyone to ground it. Or maybe Gibby would be the sane one since we know they are just making Cat dumber and dumber. I would support it though since having a male and female lead like that is not really seen in the Dan Schnieder-verse (until game shakers. Well All That is very gender neutral, but it is a very different kind of show in general) for some reason. The shows, while for everyone did have a slight "girl" or "boy" identity to them.
Idk, i wish sam’s pilot had actually worked out but i think cat and gibby would play each other way worse than sam and cat did. Theyre both over the top comedic relief characters so itd be kinda exhausting to have them together
@@batsyishere yeah but the thing is I don’t care if the gibby & cat show crashes and burns after a single episode whereas Sam on her own had potential that deserved to be preserved.
The reason Cat says Dice won't be a man until he goes through puppetry, then gets disgusted when Dice corrects her with puberty, must be because she wasn't misspeaking. She meant puppetry, and she meant it because, in her eyes, Robbie is the perfect man.
Update; on October 6th, 2023, the Gibby! Pilot in it's entirety was uploaded mysteriously on the Internet Archive. The exact nature of how it was found remain a mystery.
After reading Jeanette's book, I am so angry that Nickelodian went along with this show instead of going with the original idea "Just Puckett" which would have been a harrowing story about Sam (a former juvenile delinquent) becoming a guidance cousoler at a high school. It was such a great idea and had way more potential than this train wreck. Hell, Cat or Jade or other popular characters from other Nickelodian shows could have been supporting roles, this bringing the shared universe together.
What’s with kids channels having 2 beloved franchises that would’ve made great spin off/sequels featuring the former protagonists taking care of younger kids, but then deciding against the actor(s)’ wishes and making something significantly worse and/or cancelling the show. Both Suite life and iCarly could’ve had great sequels shows/seasons but ended up with a horrible products that were inferior to what the original actor(s) proposed.
she’s such a talented actress in general. i’m glad she’s doing her own thing now and living her best life but i think if she started acting again doing roles she didn’t hate she would be amazing.
@@introusas i hope she keeps writing though, she had mentioned she was passionate about creative writing as a kid in the memoir and she's clearly quite good at it
The Gibby Spin Off seems like absolutely every single person involved did NOT want it to happen, so they just made it as ridiculous, concerning, and what not just to make sure it would never get picked up 😂
I think the reason that they kept them 16 is because there's this unspoken rule when making media for kids about the age of your main characters. Basically, it's that the characters have to be young enough to be relatable but not younger than the audience. Kids will always want the characters they watch and look up to to be older than them so they feel they can aspire to them, but if they're too close to their age, they'll grow out of them too quickly. This is why most kids' shows on Nickelodeon and Disney are teenagers or even late teenagers because it's that perfect age of relatability for both kids and tween/young teens. It's also why it seems the age of these characters in Disney/Nick shows are getting younger and younger (Game Shakers, Nicky, Dicky, Ricky, and Dawn, that monster babysitting show on Disney). It's because, as mentioned, kids are shifting to online content at younger and younger ages, and the networks are trying to appeal to and retain their remaining (much younger than before) audiences. Think about it, there's not one show fully for kids centered around adults on these networks. It's overwhelmingly centered on the kids, maybe a couple could be centered around adults (like maybe Raven's Home or Full House or something) but that's rare. For the most part, all of the really important, popular ones are not centered around adults, and that's for a reason.
I just feel a form of sadness looking at Jeanette‘s face knowing what she went through throughout her career. I can’t really look at these shows the same way I did when they were being released at the time.
Yeah I don’t think I’ll ever be able to watch older shows on nick ever the same again. The children… what they were going though… and honestly what I bet a lot of them still go through behind closed doors. New victims, same people.
The chapters from her book about when she was filming Sam & Cat were heartbreaking, just this horrible sense of everything collapsing in on itself and for nothing
Sam being a well-adjusted middle school guidance counselor in contrast with a well-meaning, sweet but bumbling English teacher ("Ms. Cat") would have been hilarious. Maybe Cat could originally be depicted in the same way as in Victorious and Sam doesn't like her for it. But as the two are forced into each other's orbit more and more, how Cat is portrayed changes for the better over time. Eventually, Sam realizes that Cat's stupid, flighty, infantilization is less reflective of reality and more representative of Sam's biases against her. (She's an unreliable narrator, etc.) Cat's actually much more mature and emotionally in-tune with her students than Sam gave her credit for. And they become friends who approach helping kids who are struggling in different but equally important ways. Something like that.
As someone who has worked in retirement/nursing homes in the past, I want to point out that the idea that no one wants to go to bingo is the most unrealistic thing in the show. I've seen residents refuse medical service if it interferes with bingo. We've had facilities where we simply wouldn't schedule to see patients if it would overlap with bingo. Bingo is sacred... (and no- we didn't provide medically emergent services; we could wait without endangering any patients)
I don't even have to work in a retirement home to get this, I'm 22 and I LOVE bingo and frequently see young adults with their parents and grandparents having a blast! so when I see the idea that no one wants to bingo im always like HUH why!!! bingo is great!
Old joke: 2 old women are waiting outside a bingo hall for it to open when a hearse goes past. One of the women drops to her knees, makes the Sign of the Cross, & beats her breast intoning, “mercy, mercy, mercy!” The other woman looks on in astonishment. “I didn’t know you were so devout!” The first woman gets to her feet. “Ah, sure, wasn’t he a good husband to me?”
Right!? I currently work in a care home and the thought that no one would want to play Bingo if they have the opportunity is frankly laughable. That and in a different episode the idea that wet noodles are a “choke-less” food (whatever that means). Someone has not been paying attention to the IDDSI.
Bingo is as every bit of sacred to the elderly as is the traditional rites like vision quests to earn a name of your own in the Plains nations and earning the right to wear an eagle feather on behalf of doing a courageous task for them, though it's not commonly given due to how rare they are dropped by the eagle themselves
I love Russ giving Quinton an existential crisis by explaining the sitcom lore of his time and then Quinton giving Russ an existential crisis by explaining the sitcom lore of our time.
I think the sweetest part about this whole video is the part with your dad. You can tell he enjoys, and watches your videos. He has this look of excitement and pride just to be in your project. He even references things from your previous videos, it's so adorable.
And i was so shocked when he said it was his dad. I for sure thought an older brother! Such a wholesome moment after the surprise burp and 'oh fuck' moment lmfao
If I well remember, Quinton mentioned in a previous video how his dad bingewatched sitcoms in the same time as he did (I think it was to stress how much content Victorious had, his dad having the time to watch multiple show, where Quinton was stuck on one).
That was hysterical, they are so similar!! I'm sure they were playing up the mannerisms for comic effect but they really seemed like 2x the same person and I was living for it 😂
That made me SO HAPPY to see. Like, as a 45 year old who caught the tail end of these shows (mostly in reruns) I could only think that it would be Quinton's mom or dad who would be able to remember them. And I was right! The weird thing to me is that Russ doesn't seem to remember Love, American Style. I remember watching that show as a baby (yes, I have significant memories as a baby), though I didn't understand any of it. I just remember bits and pieces of the show, the transitions, and the theme song. But the REALLY weird thing is that there was a show set in a city named Milwaukee. What kind of name for a fictional city is Milwaukee. Just set it in a real city.
I want a fanfic where the Superposition collapses and all the characters suddenly become aware of all the discrepancies and have to explore the psychological ramifications of knowing everything is so very wrong.
I haven’t seen a comment mention this but it’s so awesome it needs to be highlighted how much effort was put into the Gibby! recreation scene. The fact you got the actual actor who played the principal in icarly to read his lines is INSANE!
Nobody is upset or annoyed that this is a two parter. You've been struggling and im sure the majority understand that. These types of videos take time and you dont need to be harsh on yourself with deadlines. Nobodys expecting something to come out on a specific date, nor does it need to. Take the time you need Quinton.
Can confirm that it was very weird seeing Ariana Grande release a song and music video that was sexy, and then act on Sam and Cat as a grating infantilized character.
100000000% go read I’m Glad My Mom Died. Jennette is an awesome writer, and knowing what she was going through behind the scenes adds some different context to seeing her as Sam.
@@Dallas_isk I don't, but I saw a post he made a few months back where he said he uploaded the first SEVEN hours of the next video to patreon so I guess it's taking so long because it really big, somehow
Sir, sir, Sir Quinton. No one is upset at all by this video not coming out earlier. Your series and channel as a whole provides fantastic content. The jokes you make about these series are mostly to take the edge off, not to criticize the actors or what they have went through. And the perspective you provide is fascinating and respectful on these weird shows. I hope, just like everyone else who watches this video, that this year turns around for you. Excited for what content you put out next, no matter how long it takes! (Also, love the Russ Reviews short, he did a great job!) Edit: I JUST NOTICED THE PROFESSOR DOLL AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i was in the middle of slowly rewatching this entire series. i got to the middle of the second half of icarly, so not even close to halfway through. ngl, i could've waited lol but i'm glad this video is out, of course
yeah couldn't agree more, im just glad that i get this amazing content for free,,,,,truly appreciate his work and i hope he will be happier and happier from now on
One thing that's really missing from this show is the wish fulfillment element that was present in both iCarly and Victorious. It doesn't have the themes of talent and fame running through the plot, it doesn't have an awesome, supportive parental figure like Spencer, and it doesn't even really have Hollywood Arts (which is basically Hogwarts, but with singing instead of witchcraft). The closest to teenage escapism bait Sam & Cat ever gets is "What if you were able to become roommates with your best friend, with no parents getting in the way?", but that doesn't work because the two girls don't actually like each other and are constantly fighting. It's more like being forced to live with your least favorite cousin. Also, I feel like this show would have been a lot more structurally sound if the writers had straight up committed to making Sam the unambiguous main character, allowed her to take on more of a straight woman role, and leaned into the odd couple energy between her and Cat. Kinda like a quirky romantic comedy (except not romantic ... although that would have been awesome), with Cat being Sam's Manic Pixie Dream Girl, causing Sam to defrost over time and become a more balanced character, while Sam in turn becomes a grounding influence on Cat. They could have done either a light-hearted feelgood take on the sitcom formula (in contrast to the show's more mean-spirited predecessors), or added some more mature elements, like actually exploring the characters' respective traumas through comedic plotlines rather than just using their darkest memories as throwaway punchlines. Then again, that would actually require effort, and why do that when you can just phone it in and hope your actors will pick up the slack?
right! i've been thinking to myself: "what if people had actually put effort into this show? what would that look like?" and your comment here nails it. together, sam and cat had the potential to actually be a great duo if they had allowed both characters to be fully fleshed out characters. they each have a lot of baggage that has been otherwise undiscussed, and having comedic plots lead to genuine emotional moments for the characters and have them grow into more .....normal individuals would have been a pretty good story
2:56:22 I know this may sound ironic, but seeing Jennette interviewing a toilet actually broke my heart. She mentions being ashamed of her acting carreer in her book, and while I will always be fond of Sam Puckett, I can't blame her for that. Jennette has been through a lot, she didn't even want to act to begin with, so I wish she at least didn't have to put up with such embarrassing skits...
On the other hand she seems to have always loved writing, and her book is pretty well written so maybe this could be the start of a great writing career she can be proud of. So a small silver lining at least right?
@@MissCaraMint Yeah, I'm happy that her book is being received so well! Despite the very dark topic, her writing style makes it really enjoyable to read. If she ever decides to publish more works, I'd gladly check them out.
It's not just the skits she was made it to, it's the character itself. Sam is a horrific character and a really bad person to be trying to present positively to young people. She's talked about how bad just playing her made her feel.
@@TheWonksterThat in itself is heartbreaking to me because Sam is easily my favorite character in the entire NSU. Jeanette's excellent delivery made Sam more than just a brute.
Fun fact 3:15:10 Jennette is wearing the T-shirt of one of my friends who wrote a song about her. I absolutely lost it the first time I saw this on air. I know this wasn’t a great time for her but I really appreciate that she showed love to Turbo T Double TSST in this episode.
You remember how Cat was less simplistic and more of a "normal" character just with anxiety issues in the first two seasons of Victorious? I wonder how Sam & Cat would've turned out if Cat had remained like that. Probably very different.
@@audreyisinjured There was a scene where Robby played a song about her on his guitar and he calls her bipolar so I think she was definitely supposed to be bipolar but they just fucked it up really badly.
It feels like to me that Ariana was changing cat's character over time so that when she was able to start her career in music people wouldn't conflate her and cat. My secondary thought was ariana attempting to dissociate on set though no proof of that
Wouldn't that have been just iCarly with Carly and Spencer merged into one character? Cause Cat is (to some degree) Carly's anxiety mixed with Spencer's weirdness. Well, that, and some heavy trauma that is played for laughs ...
I think Sam And Cat is the first show in quite a while to break the trend of a main character singing the theme song. Drake Bell sang the Drake and Josh theme, Jamie Lynn Spears sang the Zoey101 theme, Miranda Cosgrove sang the iCarly theme, and Victoria Justice sang the Victorious theme. The creator asked Jeanette and Ariana to sing the theme and they both declined.
Sorry that you’re feeling down, Quinton. For what it’s worth, I don’t think you’ve failed at all. Your first few videos introduced me to shows I never gave more than a minute as a kid, yet have really enjoyed learning about and getting to know the people behind said shows and what they went through. Thanks for working so hard on all these videos.
Quinton has created something exceding the standards of the platfrom, he can be proud even if sometimes it can be hard to give yourself that kind of credit
For the people who can't afford to buy Jennette's book, another great way to support her is to read it at your local library! Many libraries are also connected to Libby, a free, ad-free app that gives you access to your local library's ebook collection (if you have a library card(which is free to get!)). You can read her book there, or listen to her audiobook there. Also, if there is a waiting list for her work, dont wait, get on it! It tells your library that people are interested in her book and they will purchase more copies!
this! i work at a library and although we don't have the book, we could likely get it from another library or buy it if someone requests it. it's new though, so it might take a while if your library is small like mine.
So yes, encourage them to buy more copies, but the issue is THERE ARE NO MORE COPIES! I work at a bookstore and this book has MASSIVELY outsold expectations so they're panicking doing an immediate second printing, and it might be another week or two before they start rolling out copies again.
@@Utgarman Thats why I think Libby is great. Cause they can buy electronic copies for people to read. There's no real worry about there not being enough copies to buy cause its all electronic.
The biggest problem with the theme song. You have TWO music artists as your main characters and neither of them sing the theme song? Zoey 101 theme song sung by Zoey. Drake and Josh theme song was sung by Drake. iCarly theme song was song by Carly (and Drake). VicTORIous was sung by Tori. Why wasn't Sam and Cat sung by Sam or Cat?
Even if neither of them sang, at least have a woman sing in a show named after the two FEMALE protagonists, not a man. Also, it would've been a good chance to have a duet between Jennette and Ariana
I think it had to do with what Quinton said in this video, that the show team(I forgot who but isn't it ariana herself..?) didn't want to make Sam & Cat a singing show like Victorious thus not make the two main cast sing for their own show to insinuate that but idk tho
same. that book was so heartbreaking to read (but it was very enjoyable to read… though i understand if someone would not want to read it due to abuse she went through and other trigger warnings).
its like. now that the book is out and we know about everything that happened theres like a dirtyness around the whole thing that wont go away, but probably shouldn’t.
“Later in the day, Sam is visited by none other than BEN SHAPIRO.” I don’t know why, but Quinton’s way of saying this with complete sincerity while also sounding cheekily self-aware that this is a joke, coupled with how unexpected and unprepared I was, made me CACKLE when I heard this part 😂
I was cleaning and had my phone on my dresser. I had to rewind that part and then I laughed at myself and laughed cause it was such a good joke. I half believed it for a second there 😂😂
Ah it's probably because it was pretty funny and tickled your sensibilities, I wouldn't worry it's a common enough reaction. I chuckled too but I was confident with the why ☺️
Going from the pilot where Cat hugs Sam after agreeing to live with her and declares that this is the best day ever to the finale where Sam purposely leaves Cat in prison just so she can get homecooked meals and clean laundry is honestly really tragic when you think about it. Like, it really serves to highlight just how terrible this relationship is.
1:50:17 made me stop cold. They seriously wrote a scene where Sam and Cat fight because *Sam is eating too much*? Holy shit, the levels of disrespect the writers had for their actors' struggles is insane (edit to fix timestamp, lol)
3:54:24 the fact that quinton's dad immediately has the Same complaint about the pear devices that quinton has previously gone on a whole long rant about ? amazing
I’ve never seen Kenan & Kel, but apparently it ends with Kel working to become a rapper. So Game Shakers is essentially about Kel Mitchel playing his character from Kenan & Kel, who is also his character from Sam & Cat, who is also an original character. This is a confusing universe.
I love that the pilot sets up that Sam & Cat will receive a literal lifetime of free food from Inside-Out Burger.... only to spend every subsequent episode at Bots.
They likely got banned again and their free food revoked after an offscreen escapade. Probably in which the manager suffered a horrible medical emergency again.
Seeing Quinton and his father both looking absolutely dead inside as they listen to eachother's strange fascination with media outside their expected demographic is kinda delightful in a weird way
I genuinely feel like your dad is really listenable and sounds like he's been doing this for years. I'm ready to watch his 5 hour video essay about the Happy Days universe whenever it comes out.
4:48:17 "(...) from Wicked, which was one of Ariana's favorite musicals. I'm sure that piece of Trivia will never come up again in the story of Ariana's life." Boy do I and SpongeBob have news for you
I don't think anyone who really enjoys your content is frustrated with you in any way. I hope you take the time you need and you can get the rest you need to process whatever happened this year.
For anyone who has not read Jennette McCurdy's memoir, get on that shit. She had an insane childhood with one of the most subtly abusive parents I've ever heard of. It's amazing she's still alive and functioning.
@@Jabadamazo from what I've seen it's just tacky "news" publications trying to stir up drama that isn't there, specifically insinuating that Jennette and Ariana have some kind of beef when that is just blatantly untrue. there might be more rumors that I haven't heard but that's one I see a lot.
I cannot describe the agony I felt during the gibby pilot. If my name was on that script I would disown myself. I would never be able to look at my father in the eye again and cry every moment I remind my mother that she birthed me
I think the issue with Sam and Cat continuing the legacy that started with All That/Amanda Show/Drake and Josh etc is that those shows didnt have characters from the original shows they just became new vehicles for those actors. Sam and Cat is a full spin off of two shows rather than being a separate show for Ariana and Jeanette to showcase their talents. This is why Sam being a B Plot Character and Cat being a runner character really lets the show down.
Honestly the length and quality of this overshadows any topically timed disappointment! I’m just excited to see more! And very glad you’ve gotten through the project despite your struggling this year ❤️
He needs to stop using the audience for validation though. It’s fundamentally unhealthy and will only worsen this if the next time he does something that isn’t what the audience wants and if he has spent months on a project for it to get no views. Parasocial relationships are parasitic for the creator and the viewer.
I don’t feel particularly used for validation, I just enjoyed the vid and recently subscribed. Certainly not intended to inhibit personal growth. I can see where you’re coming from though for sure.
The Insider report about Dan Scheider is the most damning and one of the most disgusting childhood-relevations I've ever read. And its crazy how this review came out just in time for that and Jeanette's book.
Do you know where we can find the report without paying?? I read Jennette's book which had a lot of insight, but I'd like to read the report too. Cheers :)
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okay but the literal reconstruction of the gibby pilot??? talking with the people involved, getting photos never seen before, getting a cameo with the actual lines??? quinton this is fantastic, holy shit. your dedication is out of this world!
I fucking know right!? He could talk in depth about anything and I'd watch because he'd be so dedicated to finding every little thing out about it.
This man has a fucking pear pad prop.
Ikr!!! He put so much work into his videos it's insane!! I love this man lmao
no because there's actually nobody else doing it like him... the quality is absolutely insane.
He even got someone to compose a fake instrumental for a hypothetical theme song before a snappy edit of Gibby falling after the credits. This man's truly a professional.
I love how “the 3 people Cat killed on Victorious” sounds like a throwaway joke but is actually fully serious
Given all the abuse they suffered, it's remarkable they ever treated anyone with any humanity at all. It's like the Russian army with better craft services.
Notice the Cat doll in the background has a necklace of 3 skulls
whod she kill?
@@elizabongwater I think it's in reference to the 911 calls that come through to her phone, which she promptly ignores/makes worse (can't quite remember the details)
@@artyb27 she responds the way a 911 respondent would, saying help is on the way and stuff, making the people think rescue workers are coming
One thing i admire so much about Jeanette is her going 'yeah I was jealous of Ariana. She had what I wanted' instead of trying to sugar coat it
its honestly big of her to say that! people always say 'the only way to cure your jealousy is to get what the other person has' but that's just not realistic a lot of times. i think she handled her jealousy so maturely despite the fact that it was... warranted. I definitely wouldn't have been able to handle it.
@@scottyb8392 who's saying that?
@@scottyb8392 what exactly did you mean when you say warranted? I’m sure you didn’t mean it in a bad way, but because so many people think this is a justifiable reason to hate Ariana in this situation, I’m going to take this time to educate people who are very misinformed. There is a lot of misinformation being spread around: 1. Ariana did not make more money than Jennette(Jennette literally disclaimed this in her book) 2. Ariana wasn’t just allowed to miss work because she was favored; she had it written in her contract(and as sad it is that Jennette wasn’t able to direct any episodes or do other projects like she wanted, she should’ve gotten that written in her contract) 3. Jennette was very mature and reflective in mentioning that most of the things she was jealous of Ariana for, were things she didn’t even want(like channel bags or a big pop star career). Yet if you look at the context of the chapter she talks about Ariana, you see that she was projecting all of her pain and anger from her mom, her eating disorder, her miserable job, and her anger at Dan Schneider into her jealousy of Ariana.
@@noncatholiccatholicrat6309 That’s your opinion, not a fact. Ariana being more promoted and given more freedom by their shared company gave her more opportunities which LEADS to a more lucrative business life, especially as they were both leaving successful shows to hopefully make an even more successful show. It’s very clear favoritism came into play with money as the motivator. Anyone would be sad in her position, I think for good reason.
@@noncatholiccatholicrat6309 I could be wrong, but I read it as saying Jeannette having those jealous feelings was valid. Ariana didn't do anything wrong, but as you clearly outlined, Jeannette had a lot of miserable things going on at the time. Her feelings, however misguided and projected, are valid. She had a lot to come to terms with.
I am now completely convinced this entire show was a plot against Jeanette.
Lets take note- First, they promise to give her her own show, then take it away, then repeatedly promise she can be a writer only to again go back on it. Now, they've made multiple instances of things that Jeanette actually struggled with. A crazy stage mom, a comment by cat about eating too much, Sam literally binge eating and another comment about how she should stop drinking. If you've read her book, you know at one point, especially after her mom died, Jeanette McCurdy had a severe drinking problem.
And her being worked harder than ari
That’s an ouch
thats some bojack horseman s5 shit (refering to philbert)
The single Sam show, of her being a counselor is such a big character development. It would have made so much sense.
I am only at 1:12:50 , but it also doesn’t seem like they brought that aspect of her helping kids on a similar track as she was on out into Sam and Cat. It might have been really cool if Sam in her babysitting could have sort of taken the role in the kids’ lives that Spencer had in her’s during iCarly.
I wish we could have seen that pilot or piece of it. In Sam and Cat, everyone looks way older than they're supposed to be. Having a time skip would have been nice
@@PDD555I don’t think it’s really that egregious. I mean Jeannette and Ariana were like 20-21 while this show was going on. While I do think Sam’s spin off show would have been better, 20-21 really isn’t that bad for people playing teens, it’s pretty normal. I actually think I would have a harder time watching a 21 year old Jennette play like a 30 year old Sam.
I know, these shows work when the characters are allowed the change for the better, which is what this old show would have clearly done well.
But nope, we instead got pretty much 36 sets of 22-minutes of nonsense and wasted potential.
@@PDD555they barely look older at all
I’m glad Jennette’s book gave not only her the courage to reveal the atrocities she had to go through at Nick, but also gave courage to the other victims of Schneider’s bakery to have their voices heard.
I haven't seen the video yet, but does Quinton bring up Jeannette's book?
@@bluewater6878 In curious about that too. It was released earlier this month and for a 5 hour video this must have taken awhile. If he did find time to read and incorporate it I applaud him.
@@bluewater6878 yeah
@@BugsyFoga If I am currently reading the book, should I watch this video after I finish?
@@ConnorN22 I feel that might be better saved for next video.
“Sam and Cat did not ruin Nickelodeon, I just stopped being 10 years old” is one of the most powerful statements ever. Now I have to reevaluate my 9 year belief that Henry Danger ruined Nick
I grew up with early Henry danger in fact, and figured the last season of HD and the danger force spinoff ruined Nick. Crazy.
I watched Henry danger too back then because i thought it was gonna be the next lab rats ( super powers with technology in the mix, token black girl, neglectful mentor helping out the kids, ynow, all the good stuff/sarc) but after 2-3 seasons it fell off and changed Nick as a whole, for what kind of shows it made, Any show after that felt like Disney 2.0 but watered down, I couldn't tell the difference between the networks if i tried
I grew up with Drake and Josh (and kinda iCarly), but I didn't think Victorious ruined Nick because I was down bad for Jade whenever my sister watched it.
Henry danger didn’t ruin nick it’s just a symbol of Nickelodeon’s problems.
@@miuiruma69 omg I was thinking “but wait! Lab Rats didn’t have a token black girl-“
But then I remember the MOM😭😭😭🙈🙈
If they had gone with the original idea of Sam as a counselor and let Jeanette be a writer, it would be an AMAZING show.
Who knows, maybe there's a chance she'd still do it cuz she talked about how she's open to going back to acting
@houselemuellan8756 I doubt she meant as Sam though
@@houselemuellan8756 She's open to acting? Probably not as one of her past roles.
@@houselemuellan8756if she wrote a show with the same concept and had someone else play the lead (a different but similar character) i think it would probably be really cute and meaningful
Yeah. Would have liked to see that
I work at a library and the amount of holds we have on Jennette’s book is UNREAL, I'm so glad people are turning up to support her
I went to buy a copy at a books a million and they were sold out
It’s an amazing book
@@zombieoverlord1995 quickest way to read is is to get it for kindle
I put a hold on the audio book and have two library cards, one library has it on hold for 6 weeks and the other several months 😅 I hope I get to hear it sooner than 6 weeks, I've watched several people talk about it in the meantime
I was gonna get the audible version with her narrating but some of the reviews say it was kind of flat and felt she was rushing thru certain parts so I'm torn.
Wow, legitimately sad that show where she's a guidance counselor didn't go through. That would be like, the perfect wrap up for her character. Gonna pretend it's canon.
the only bright side of it is that it means jennette would've likely been stuck working for nickelodeon even longer if that did happen
It sounds kinda similar to "The Facts of life" if I'm honest.
it is canon
@@cowboyemoji1300 very true
Sam and Cat was actually a result of a bad acid trip Sam had
The blooper with Jerry Trainor is the only time we see Jennette genuinely smile in this entire video. It’s very sweet.
i knoww i rewatched that bit a few times it's very wholesome.
YEAH I WAS LITERALLY THINKING "Aw she actually seems kinda relieved now." THAT'S SO SWEET I hope she's doing well.
Jerry Trainor always seemed like the nicest guy in the NSU.
@@carsausage apparently nobody has anything bad to say about him. He was basically a big brother to the icarly cast
There’s no evidence to support this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the on-set behavior of certain people on icarly would have been just as bad as victorious if they didn’t have an older actor as part of the main cast
@@harrylane4 what kind of behaviour was the victorious cast showing?
A year ago I got dumped by a guy while this was playing in the background. He told me he wasn’t attracted to me anymore and didn’t even bother to pause Quinton’s video to break the news. Worst of all he didn’t even let me get to the point where the Ariana vids play on the Shrek CRT before doing it.
I’m glad to say that a year later I finally returned to finish the video and reclaim it as something to enjoy. Thanks for everything, Mr. Quinton.
Dude that is fucked up. I hope your ex is having a terrible day.
Do yourself a favour, and don't go to a random Quinton Reviews video for f*cks sake, to complain about your relationship woes.
I watched this series with my ex-boyfriend, too 😢
@@-psilo-9071 We are stronger and better than them. We overcome.
Pfft
Apparently the script for "Gibby!" was initially leaked by someone who won it in a "Nickelodeon Trivia Contest." No idea how official that contest was, but the possibility that Nickelodeon willingly gave away this trash fire script to an outside party for a contest makes the story behind it's discovery even more crazy. Either that or (more likely) some random Nick employee heard about their small town's unofficial Nickelodeon themed trivia night and was like "You know what would be an absolutely insane prize..." which is also crazy and hilarious.
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I'm certainly not the first person to say this but watching this now and knowing that Jennette McCurdy was struggling with an eating disorder makes all the emphasis around food with Sam's character all the more fucked up.
and it's very likely the writers knew this which is why they included it, the same for giving her an abusive distant mother
@@meevins from what we are told, Jennette told HR and the directors to "knock it off with all the food" many times and nothing was done about it. im very sure the writers were aware and there was nothing they could do about it.
I was thinking that, too. It must have been pure torture for her.
Knowing about her eating disorder, I've taken to watching carefully when she does eat on the show. And I've noticed that there are scenes where Sam is enthusiastic about eating but doesn't actually consume the food, or only pretends.
For example, when she's drinking the root beer around Cat after she made the money man, you can see that she's not actually drinking any of it when she pours the liter bottle onto herself. Stuff like that. She also talks about the peanut butter on the hot dog, but you never actually see her eat it. (Though this may all be wrong and only seems that way because of Quinton's editing)
@@raymondkim3740 not to say that your observations are incorrect or that her ED didn't have anything at all to do with how she interacted with foot onset, and I'm very sure it was hard for her, but it's very common for actors not to eat prop food/to cheat eating it. Obv there are often multiple takes of any given scene, and if an actor chooses to eat, say, several bites of pizza in a take, they then have to eat that same number of bites of pizza again and again however many takes they do because takes need to have the same continuity. So, y'know, I don't think anyone-ED or not-would be too keen on chugging a bunch of root beer a bunch of times in a row. Also, a lot of the time the prop food isn't very good, ie is cold and gross from sitting around for ages. Just thought it was worth noting 😅
The kids not actually being friends and Gibby being the overly optimistic guidance counselor could have been a really funny idea in the right hands.
Yeah, I was thinking that too. Like, they could say that Gibby's in college and is trying to get his degree and certificate to become a counselor or teacher. And he ends up working at the same school he once went to for active classroom hours or something. And he ends up meeting these kids and becomes their counselor pretty much by accident.
And the show is about the growth of these kids, as they grow closer to each other and to others outside of that small group. And the drama is about getting through school, figuring out social cues/rules/etc, and self confidence.
And all the while they're also getting up to their own silly adventures that are a lot like the ones characters from iCarly and Victorious go through, but cause we're mostly following Gibby the joke is how awful and bizarre it would have been to be a counselor for either of those shows.
@@raymondkim3740 they kind of explore your last point in victorious, the guidance counselor character is always shown as being in way over his head, and his scenes actually still make me laugh to this day because imagining a real counselor going through helping robbie alone is inherently ridiculous.
I also think the concept for that gibby show could have worked well in the right hands. It’s a shame it was… whatever the fuck that script was.
And as we watched, they weren't in the right hands
And as soon as the weasel joke was uttered for the second time, you realize they were not in the right hands.
As long as it’s classic funny well written gibby from seasons 1-4 and not overly random and stupid like later on
Russ immediately recognizing the pear pad, indicating that Quinton has ranted about it to him before, is one of my favorite small details of this video.
Or saw quinton watching it when he was younger 😂
the way he talks about it to me sounded like he might have watched the video
I actually feel bad for Dice's actor. Despite the writing, he really was putting in a lot of effort in his role and his timing was quite good. If he ended up on the right show I think he could've had a nice career boost. Hope he's doing good.
He does stream on twitch
I don’t I hope he’s suffering
@@Apple13556 Where
@@emilygordbort7300 he has not done 1 in 7 months but it's Cyc1ist
@@Apple13556 Awh, too bad there's no videos to watch back
It's weird that in the pilot they get promised free hamburgers for life from inside out burger and then for the rest of the show go to a different restaurant for hamburgers.
they probably get free burgers from Good Burger, since that manager has an unnatural attraction to minors & Ed's secret sauce is crazy good.
Theory: Inside Out Burger gets its name because if you eat too many of them, they burn through your stomach lining and turn your stomach inside out, either giving you severe chemical burns and a trip to the hospital or killing you depending on how fast the ambulance gets there. The girls stopped eating there after learning this.
@@PyrokineticFire1 HOLY SHIT I FORGOT HE WAS IN THAT MOVIE
They like the variety.
One thing that stood out to me in the IGMMD book is that when Jennette discovered she wouldn’t have the chance to direct an episode, she had a bad panic attack on set and collapsed. The actor who played “the boxer” as she writers picked her up and carried her back to her trailer, comforting her with the help of her makeup artist. Your point about Goomer being the heart of the show isn’t limited to the characters alone.
I love Goomer and that that actor - as someone older who could look at these traumatized young women with objectivity - was able to be there for her. But what I'm taking from this is the bit about Ariana collapsing under stress is just a bad jab at Jeanette. God, Schneider, she's already been the target of abuse for six years, and it's just exhausting.
@@oldasyouromens I’m pretty sure that episode was filmed before Jeanette fainted
@@danielgraham1082 that helps, but it's still making fun of a panic disorder without taking it seriously after.
I just read a little about the situation. Was the producer lying for expedience or did someone really threaten to quit over that? It doesn’t make sense to me, even if she did a bad job, it’s a single episode of a kids show. Why would you need to quit? Either they were being unreasonable about that or they didn’t like her. If they actually existed that is.
@@ShabazzTBL She was treated very unfairly throughout her time, not just then - and it could very well have been the guest director already hired who threatened to quit. We just don't know. We certainly know *Jennette* wanted to quit by then.
“And thank you to my dearest friend, Dan Schneider” the way I said “no” outloud in shock lmaoo
I do love the recurrent "and not the writers' poorly-disguised fetish" line
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One could even say it's a bit of a... Runner
2000s Nickelodeon feet, for sure
Watching this knowing that Jennette McCurdy originally wanted her own solo show but it was shelved because the basically forced Arianna into it explains a lot about how the show was going, even ignoring the other things that were going on in Jennette's life
I'm not sure how long Jennette's solo show would actually last though. Knowing what happened to Jennette behind the scenes, even later on, by my guess Jennette would probably want to leave acting immediately.
Right? I don't blame her and how she felt at all, quite the contrary. It must be tiring to see day by day how you are compared to your coworker, specially when your dream wasn't being an actress in the first place
Honestly I don't think it was so much that she wanted the solo show as much as she was convinced having her own show was a sign of true success after sacrificing so much to get it, only to be overshadowed by a breakout costar doing a far more mediocre premise, coupled with the loss of someone she was basically groomed into codependency with. (This is going off her book, of course, it's not like I know her personally)
@@estebangutierrez160 I mean, yes, but it would have been better as her solo I guess? like, at least she would be the star. i know she had a difficult situation and Im not saying if she did get her own show, it would be easy.
just, the idea that they had to force another start into your own show bc they don't think you profit enough does make it harder
@@estebangutierrez160 Jeanette was happy cuz she was she showrunner. She wanted some control and they took it away from her. She wanted to do it.
Even if you think it would’ve panned out badly, she wanted to do it. She wanted to leave acting after Sam and Cat sucked and they took away her chance at some form of control.
The weird thing about putting Sam and Cat together is they're both such heavily exaggerated characters that neither of them can really be the "grounded" one. They're each the kind of character that needs a more grounded character to play off of. Having too over the top characters being over the top together just makes things feel monotonous.
Yeah, watching the show kinda of felt like sometimes one character was meant to be grounded one episode, then it would switch in the next.
Yeah, in comedy there’s a straight man and in this duo there’s no straight man to react to their shenanigans
That’s why I’ve always defended “main character syndrome.” You need someone “boring” and relatable as your main character, side characters work because, like junk food, they’re better to consume in small doses.
Almost every spinoff fails because people realise the sidekick they loved isn’t as lovable without the main characters. Those qualities that made them so special are quickly diminished when they’re constantly onscreen.
@@panashe5268 like when Friends ended and Joey (of all people) got his own spin-off show which was a huge flop.
Exactly. Sam balanced out perfectly with Carly and Cat with Tori.
Noah has said he felt uncomfortable with the joke where the takes off shirt, which is why in the later seasons of icarly they stop doing it and there's that one scene where he specially mentions he doesn't do it anymore so, it's really messed up that they just made him do it again in the gibby pilot.
Quinton, I truly hope your okay now. You said this was the worst year of your life and this project was affected by it. Trust me, a 5 hour long video is NOT a disappointment, you make incredible videos. Thank you, and I wish you the best.
Wow I had no idea Mauler’s utter annihilation of Quentin’s analytical integrity got to him that badly. Honestly kind of hilarious
@@virtueofabsolution7641 lmao The only things LongBoi can annihilate are a box of donuts and the idea that media illiteracy isn't a barrier to valid criticism.
@@username1660 heeeey I thought you people are supposed to be body positive isn’t that bigotry or something
In all seriousness Q is fine tho i haven’t followed him much it does seem like he has grown since that whole debacle. I’m honestly not sure if he has learned to appreciate drafting and literary consistency or if star wars was always just a sacred cow and goober politics sold the whole shitshow such as it was…and it _was_ a shitshow.
Also that last sentence is absolutely bizarre. Are you trying to say that longmanboy is or is not media illiterate? Or that…it IS a barrier to valid criticism? Saying that he is the one who is somehow media illiterate? I honestly can’t tell if this sentence was meant to be indecipherable.
@@virtueofabsolution7641 If you make fun of the looks of others, yours are fair game. 'Don't dish out what you can't take' is a lesson the rest of us learned in kindergarten, ain't my fault y'all are a few years behind.
That sentence was by no means incoherent, but the fact that you're having trouble with it does track with your support of 'critics' like Edgy Gas Mask Lad
@@virtueofabsolution7641 Your comments read like the poorly written quips of an edgy fanfic character, and the fact that is so obvious that you are trying so hard to proyect that image makes it twice as embarrasing.
You know they really had no excuse to undersell the iCarly half of the show, because like... Sam was in iCarly. She was half the face of it. iCarly was such a HUGE cultural phenomenon, they made news multiple times, and now here's Sam with a babysitting service! Literally surrounded by children as part of the entire plot, but the kids never react to her, they never get business BECAUSE she was from iCarly, what's even the point??
Yeahhh it’s very weird in universe with that in mind but like somehow the show almost made me forget that Sam is supposed to be nearly world famous considering the special in Japan
Yeah that really makes no sense, especially since she gets recognized as Sam from icarly in the first episode and then like what… never again?
I think the writers truly just forgot.
The funny thing is, they could have done something with that. Sam's extended vacation could've been set-up as her going back discover herself, being absolutely sure her e-fame would last and be this safety net to fall back on, but now she's hit by a very rude awakening that the world moved on and forgot about her. So when Cat is the only one to remember her, that could be seen as pathetic, she was on top of the world, then she's only remembered by a rando. And then it could be a recurring joke that only weirdos rememeber her, with how often she needs to sneak or put on a disguise.
I mean even Cat to a lesser extent, she’s still going to Hollywood Arts but she rarely performs? The only one I can think of off the top of my head was that Abraham Lincoln thing, which…
Goddammit. Quinton is the only person who can take 40 actual minutes to get to the main topic of a video and not get me mad because it's all interesting
Based on the first word of your comment, I’d say he did get you angry, just in a different way than normal.
Man is goated😂
He’s basically making Documentary Series on childhood nostalgia.
Swear
I'm two diversions deep and loving every moment
1:25:23 I am sorry, but I just have to point out that this (the Brit saying “Cheers” as in see you later and Sam and Cat replying with “Seinfeld” and “Friends”) is a surprisingly good joke for a meta show aimed at toddlers.
Amazing joke ngl
The Show has a lot of good jokes. Rewatching this now that im older I get all of them.
I'm 95% sure this joke was stolen from Community. There's a moment early on in the show (would have aired a few years before Sam and Cat) with the exact same setup (a British character saying "cheers" to mean goodbye), followed by an American one-upping him with "M*A*S*H," before the British character responds with "Fawlty Towers, game over."
I can’t blame Jennette for feeling jealous of Ariana on set when an entire episode featured Ariana in a cute I Dream of Jeannie costume, and Jennette in an Ariana Grande costume.
Nickelodeon did Ariana dirty too but no one talks about that 💀
@@HelloKittyUwW07 She was definitely done dirty, as all the kids in this gross industry were/are.
@@sankurusteph Victorious especially did ariana dirty
@@HelloKittyUwW07 in Victorious yes, but when Sam and Cat came along and Ariana started to make a name for herself they began to favour her, they still made her character as dumb as she was towards the end of Victorious though which is still doety
I would think Jeanette wouldn't want to wear a costume like that after what Dan did to he. I doubt she was jealous, in fact she probably felt bad for Ariana.
Honestly the concept of Gibby being the genuine straight guy and everyone else being Gibbies is hilarious to me.
It kind of sounds like thats is Gibby’s eternal punishment
Y'know, I think Goomer might be the nicest person in the whole NCU. From genuinely caring about his friends with 0 self interests, to being the only person who doesn't hate homeless people (In fact, letting one live in his car so he doesn't have to face the harsh weather's), whose goals are stuff like "Make his mother proud", I think Goomer is unironically the only person in the NCU who isn't a terrible person
My first thought for a counterexample is Josh's mom on Drake&Josh
His actor is also nice too: Jennette was having a panic attack on set and he took her to her dressing room and actually comforted her
💕yes 👏
he becomes a villain in henry danger
I was gonna say that it's because he is neurodivergent and they didn't want to make such a character hateable
But being fair, all characters seem mentally unstable
It’s always so surreal when people reference Scott the Woz. That dude sat behind me in chemistry and never did his homework
He was too busy reorganizing his Wii U collection.
Wait legit?
@@TheLegend2T yep! We weren’t friends by any means we’d barely met but it’s still so odd 😂
This is such a funny comment
That makes so much sense. He seems more like an English guy
man you really undersell yourself when you apologize for lack of content. you are out here giving us 46 hours of some of the best content on this platform, genuine works of art with so much meticulous grueling effort put in. for free. like i cringe at the amount of things you do for these videos i could never do it. you are probably the most indispensable review channel out there. it goes to show the best artists always judge their work the hardest.
Amen to that brother !
Its not good for the channel though, disappearing for months at a time could mean people forget him/stop caring, which could lead to the channel slowly dying.
@@karenwang313 Clearly people haven't, blah blah keep talking
Definitely not for free with Patreon and RUclips AdSense, but there's definitely truth in your statement.
@@karenwang313 Not necessarily. I follow a channel that was revived when it went from frequent short videos into occasional long videos.
the untitled Sam project was, according to Jennette McCurdy, supposed to be called "Just Puckett", and it was promised to her near the beginning of iCarly. then they added Ariana out of NOWHERE, so the only reason Jennette stayed on the show (to get her own spinoff) was ripped away from her. nickelodeon absolutely fucks over its actors and Jennette is literally such a perfect example
I mean, Ariana kinda came out of nowhere generally. She was the dark horse of Victorious. They 200% needed to use her in something.
she also only stayed on the show so that she could direct an episode, which was taken away from her too
I thought she stayed on the show because her mom forced her to act?
@@indiesunflowers it's explained in the book WHY she stayed with Sam and cat
The name Just Puckett fits the Laverne and Shirley inspiration too, very interesting
After reading the Jenette McCurdy biography, that next video is gonna hit like a truck. The Arianna section really brings that home. For Arianna, this was a fun little detour in her career, in a life of privilege where she could do or have anything she wanted. For Jenette this show was a miserable slog she felt obligated to do because she was forced into this life she had no desire for out of a twisted loyalty to her moms dream. And the one thing she wanted out of this was the chance to direct an episode, and the gutless cowards at Nick wouldn't even give her that.
I do agree with you about everything concerning Jenette. However I must say that Ariana is one of if not the most exploited Nickelodeon star, at least when it came to filmed scenes (that are public). It wasn't aired but on the website, but still, probably the grossest thing Dan Schneider ever made publicly. Absolutely not trying to downplay the other stars like Jennette that suffered as well. Who knows what went on behind the scenes other than what we've learned about, so I feel for all the kids who've worked there. I see Ariana and Jenette as victims.
@@xkawaiikristinx She's a rich girl who was determined to do whatever it took, including fetish stuff, to be famous. We can't pretend that Jeanette trying to pull her family out of poverty and fulfill the dreams of others was the same thing. For a sports analogy, you've got a Peyton Manning vs a Todd Gurley.
@@TacticusPrime I never said that, but either way Ariana just like Jenette was a child, so it's disgusting your blaming a kid when she possibly didn't even realize the true nature of it. Either way adults using children in this way is sick and just because she was rich doesn't justify it. I feel for Jennette's struggles throughout her life as well but it's not a damn contest. Again, both are victims.
@@xkawaiikristinx yeah. Both are victims. He never said they weren't, he is just trying to convey the difference and you're refusing to see it. One could walk away from the show and she would've been fine, probably barely even noticing it, while the other was in a very different situation that she clearly felt much worse about, and leaving on a whim was no where near an option. The fact that i don't have to name which is which because you knew as you read it should be proof enough of that.
As for him being "disgusting" for "blaming a kid", the show aired in 2014, so 8 years ago. Jeanette is currently 30, and Arianna is currently 29, simple math would put their ages at 22 and 21 respectively. So you're trying to tell him that he's disgusting because people that have been legal adults for 4+ years are somehow children to you that can't realize the "true nature" of what they're doing?
What's really obvious and disgusting here is that you're feigning sympathy for Jeanette because you're clearly way too into Arianna, thinking she can only be a victim, but you know that minimizing what Jeanette went through won't get you those likes you're so desperate for.
So desperate that you'll call someone disgusting for not thinking an adult is a child.
The nerve and ignorance needed to start insulting someone like that is insane, especially when you could've just Googled three simple things: the years Sam & Cat aired, their ages, and since you unfortunately seem to be clueless on this one... the age at which a person in America is considered an adult and not a child.
@@xkawaiikristinx if you need an example of how much of a hypocrite you've been, you finished your last comment with "it's not a damn contest" but began your first comment saying you feel for Jeanette BUT "Arianna is the most exploited nickelodeon star".
Is it not a contest, or does that only apply when you don't want to make it a contest yourself, just so you can argue that Arianna had it the worst in your sad contest?
To be honest, Goomer's fight against the champion is the best episode of the entire series.
The guy is dumb, but he's a nice person and fights for the honor of those who he loves. Is the kind of comedy character you can root for.
Thought you said Groomer and got worried
@@KingOfGaymesHaha, no. Also Goomer is not that kind of person (I hope).
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That is super close to the characterization of Luffy so yeah no wonder it works it's a proven formula
In all fairness, your haha content never felt like it’s disrespectful towards Janette. It usually felt like you’re making fun of the producer’s and writers for allowing it to happen. It also definitely made more people aware of the problem.
Well said!
Yes, exactly! I was going to comment something similar. I’ve not read her book yet but from what I know about her I don’t think she would feel disrespected by anything Quinton is doing
Agreed. I never even watched these shows and I learned so much about the shit she had to go through bc of these videos.
In general I never once thought any of his comments or jokes were ever at any of the actors' expenses but always at the producers and writers.
100% felt the same, it never came across that he was being rude toward really any of the actors/actresses
@@arthurdurham Ehh he kinda shits on Victoria Justice a bit too much. I get she's not nearly as talented as everyone else but her puts down what she can do weirdly often
“One of these days I’ll be dead and then I’ll know peace” is such a raw line to come from a kids’ sitcom retrospective and yet so valid
Honestly
@@iloveburgers3 2:50:08
Another honourable quote at 2:50:52 is “Then some other stuff happens. I hate being alive” Quinton’s so real for that😭
Reviving a lost pilot with actual cameo's from the real principle is insane production value, FOR AN ASIDE TO THE MAIN VIDEO
EXACTLY
grand applause
the real principle also was on the main cast of star trek voyager so in my head he is like a true celebrity
@@josei1624 I mean.. he is a true celebrity, you don't have to imagine that in your head lol
@@Swifterino Could have phrased that better. I assume he is as unaivaiable for this as Tom Cruise would have been
Alternate universe where instead they added Cat to the Gibby pilot and Sam’s pilot remained unaltered.
How the f*ck do random people cook better then some guy who wrote for nick for over 20 years?!
TBH I would be down for that, but would not have anyone to ground it. Or maybe Gibby would be the sane one since we know they are just making Cat dumber and dumber. I would support it though since having a male and female lead like that is not really seen in the Dan Schnieder-verse (until game shakers. Well All That is very gender neutral, but it is a very different kind of show in general) for some reason. The shows, while for everyone did have a slight "girl" or "boy" identity to them.
Idk, i wish sam’s pilot had actually worked out but i think cat and gibby would play each other way worse than sam and cat did. Theyre both over the top comedic relief characters so itd be kinda exhausting to have them together
@@batsyishere yeah but the thing is I don’t care if the gibby & cat show crashes and burns after a single episode whereas Sam on her own had potential that deserved to be preserved.
@@batsyishereI dunno man, I'd watch it just for the sheer insanity
I feel like we're not commenting enough on the fact that THEY GOT TIM RUSS TO DO THE LINES FROM THE PILOT ON CAMEO AND *HE SERVED*
I paused the video and came here to say the same thing.
I was blown away by that part. Quinton was too amazing for that point and getting him to voice in that pilot.
I personally think Sam is a metahuman like in henry danger. She's significantly stronger than nearly everyone she faces even when it makes no sense.
She's secretly a Sayan.
Nah she’s just got stupid strength. Dumb people in tv shows are naturally like three times as strong as the average person
She is the Toph of the icarly universe
@@Flipitmixit excuse me, Toph being stronger than everyone makes very much sense
I was about to make an X-Men joke but I think if Jennette was up to do voice acting she'd play Magik pretty well
The reason Cat says Dice won't be a man until he goes through puppetry, then gets disgusted when Dice corrects her with puberty, must be because she wasn't misspeaking. She meant puppetry, and she meant it because, in her eyes, Robbie is the perfect man.
gasp
Dear lord
That and her brother makes her fear growing up so she tries to stay in the mind of a child. The idea of puberty is scary to her
well didnt earlier videos establish she's traumatized by robbie?
@@orangegouice Abuse victims can often look up to, admire, or even love their abusers.
Update; on October 6th, 2023, the Gibby! Pilot in it's entirety was uploaded mysteriously on the Internet Archive. The exact nature of how it was found remain a mystery.
i NEED to know how accurate quinton’s recreation was
@@chickenpermission6969 it was a very accurate recreation
Oh my god that inflation part is crazy
"A plot: Bingo, B plot: British children, C plot: Dice has a fucking Spoon" had no right to be that funny 😭😭💀
Fimally I am the A-Plot
@@BinglesPI am the b plot 😭😭😭😭
As a ferret guy every time I see footage of “weasy” I just feel upset because the actual ferret looks so miserable
we "love" animal abuse for the sake of TV!
@@neoordwellgod I love Nope
“ArcanineBr” would be a ferret guy lol.
(Also fuck animal abuse for TV)
@@hotdog8109explain
at least they did not make a whole show where the poor little guy had to get filmed every day
After reading Jeanette's book, I am so angry that Nickelodian went along with this show instead of going with the original idea "Just Puckett" which would have been a harrowing story about Sam (a former juvenile delinquent) becoming a guidance cousoler at a high school.
It was such a great idea and had way more potential than this train wreck. Hell, Cat or Jade or other popular characters from other Nickelodian shows could have been supporting roles, this bringing the shared universe together.
nickelodian
@@clug906 Nickiladean don't deserve being correctly spelled in this context
“Just Puckette”
Sounds like “Just F_ck it” LMAO
That would be hella cool
What’s with kids channels having 2 beloved franchises that would’ve made great spin off/sequels featuring the former protagonists taking care of younger kids, but then deciding against the actor(s)’ wishes and making something significantly worse and/or cancelling the show.
Both Suite life and iCarly could’ve had great sequels shows/seasons but ended up with a horrible products that were inferior to what the original actor(s) proposed.
the cameo bit with principal franklin is fucking gold
This dude should recieve a PhD on Nickelodeon media history.
Game shakers :(
And Garfield history. Defunctland referred to him as Garfield Historian.
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I’m always so impressed
Seriously. 5 hour long video?? Holy fuck.
Poparena though
Jeannette is so good at playing Sam and Melanie. Their temperaments are so different and they way they physically carry themselves is so distinct.
she’s such a talented actress in general. i’m glad she’s doing her own thing now and living her best life but i think if she started acting again doing roles she didn’t hate she would be amazing.
I feel like when she's Melanie, she's basically playing herself. Jeanette seems very sweet and reserved.
@@wendymccoy1093That’s what I thought like it seemed more natural than having to portray an aggressive character
@@noone3305She doesn’t want to act, she never did 🤷🏻
@@introusas i hope she keeps writing though, she had mentioned she was passionate about creative writing as a kid in the memoir and she's clearly quite good at it
The Gibby Spin Off seems like absolutely every single person involved did NOT want it to happen, so they just made it as ridiculous, concerning, and what not just to make sure it would never get picked up 😂
I think the reason that they kept them 16 is because there's this unspoken rule when making media for kids about the age of your main characters. Basically, it's that the characters have to be young enough to be relatable but not younger than the audience. Kids will always want the characters they watch and look up to to be older than them so they feel they can aspire to them, but if they're too close to their age, they'll grow out of them too quickly. This is why most kids' shows on Nickelodeon and Disney are teenagers or even late teenagers because it's that perfect age of relatability for both kids and tween/young teens. It's also why it seems the age of these characters in Disney/Nick shows are getting younger and younger (Game Shakers, Nicky, Dicky, Ricky, and Dawn, that monster babysitting show on Disney). It's because, as mentioned, kids are shifting to online content at younger and younger ages, and the networks are trying to appeal to and retain their remaining (much younger than before) audiences. Think about it, there's not one show fully for kids centered around adults on these networks. It's overwhelmingly centered on the kids, maybe a couple could be centered around adults (like maybe Raven's Home or Full House or something) but that's rare. For the most part, all of the really important, popular ones are not centered around adults, and that's for a reason.
This is an accurate breakdown. This is why Regular Show always stood out to me
I just feel a form of sadness looking at Jeanette‘s face knowing what she went through throughout her career. I can’t really look at these shows the same way I did when they were being released at the time.
Yeah I don’t think I’ll ever be able to watch older shows on nick ever the same again. The children… what they were going though… and honestly what I bet a lot of them still go through behind closed doors. New victims, same people.
The chapters from her book about when she was filming Sam & Cat were heartbreaking, just this horrible sense of everything collapsing in on itself and for nothing
Well yes actually. My grandma made that decision to go to a home. Of course she was 105 years old at the time.
Sam being a well-adjusted middle school guidance counselor in contrast with a well-meaning, sweet but bumbling English teacher ("Ms. Cat") would have been hilarious. Maybe Cat could originally be depicted in the same way as in Victorious and Sam doesn't like her for it. But as the two are forced into each other's orbit more and more, how Cat is portrayed changes for the better over time. Eventually, Sam realizes that Cat's stupid, flighty, infantilization is less reflective of reality and more representative of Sam's biases against her. (She's an unreliable narrator, etc.) Cat's actually much more mature and emotionally in-tune with her students than Sam gave her credit for. And they become friends who approach helping kids who are struggling in different but equally important ways. Something like that.
Yes, I was thinking something similar when he said Cat wouldn't work at a middle school. Like, why not? Would have been a way better show
someone write this fanfiction now
Why can't we get shows like this? We DESERVE shows like this. All they have to do is TRY.
I _love_ this. So much so that I'm truly disappointed now that I've read it, bc i know I'll never get it.
She could have been a music teacher! She could have taught choir! They could have LET HER SING!
As someone who has worked in retirement/nursing homes in the past, I want to point out that the idea that no one wants to go to bingo is the most unrealistic thing in the show. I've seen residents refuse medical service if it interferes with bingo. We've had facilities where we simply wouldn't schedule to see patients if it would overlap with bingo. Bingo is sacred...
(and no- we didn't provide medically emergent services; we could wait without endangering any patients)
I don't even have to work in a retirement home to get this, I'm 22 and I LOVE bingo and frequently see young adults with their parents and grandparents having a blast! so when I see the idea that no one wants to bingo im always like HUH why!!! bingo is great!
Old joke: 2 old women are waiting outside a bingo hall for it to open when a hearse goes past. One of the women drops to her knees, makes the Sign of the Cross, & beats her breast intoning, “mercy, mercy, mercy!” The other woman looks on in astonishment. “I didn’t know you were so devout!” The first woman gets to her feet. “Ah, sure, wasn’t he a good husband to me?”
Right!? I currently work in a care home and the thought that no one would want to play Bingo if they have the opportunity is frankly laughable.
That and in a different episode the idea that wet noodles are a “choke-less” food (whatever that means). Someone has not been paying attention to the IDDSI.
My mom is an Activities Director. She describes Bingo as video games to us.
Bingo is as every bit of sacred to the elderly as is the traditional rites like vision quests to earn a name of your own in the Plains nations and earning the right to wear an eagle feather on behalf of doing a courageous task for them, though it's not commonly given due to how rare they are dropped by the eagle themselves
18:22 little did Quinton know that the actual main titles for the Gibby pilot was just the name "Gibby" being chanted for 6 seconds.
I love Russ giving Quinton an existential crisis by explaining the sitcom lore of his time and then Quinton giving Russ an existential crisis by explaining the sitcom lore of our time.
The death stare Russ was giving us the whole time 😭
lol i was initially gonna be so upset at quinton for being rude to his dad but then his dad did the same so i like the joke now
It’s more of a boredom induced fugue state
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I always find "the parent and child are the same person" jokes to be comedy gold
Okay, ngl, i absolutly love the joke where Quinton's dad is explaining all this lore and Quinton's mind just touches the void for a bit
And him doing the exact same bit with his dad when he’s explaining the NSU is comedy gold
It would've been funnier if it was Quinton ranting about ContraPoints
I really love how he says “the fictional city of Milwaukee.”
@@NidorinoAlliance yeah ngl, AT FIRST I thought it was kinda mean, but then when that happened that brought it full circle and it became WAY funnyer
Read the comment at the moment
I think the sweetest part about this whole video is the part with your dad. You can tell he enjoys, and watches your videos. He has this look of excitement and pride just to be in your project. He even references things from your previous videos, it's so adorable.
And i was so shocked when he said it was his dad. I for sure thought an older brother! Such a wholesome moment after the surprise burp and 'oh fuck' moment lmfao
I loved how he dissociated while his dad explained old sitcoms. Now Quinton knows how WE feel!
If I well remember, Quinton mentioned in a previous video how his dad bingewatched sitcoms in the same time as he did (I think it was to stress how much content Victorious had, his dad having the time to watch multiple show, where Quinton was stuck on one).
That was hysterical, they are so similar!! I'm sure they were playing up the mannerisms for comic effect but they really seemed like 2x the same person and I was living for it 😂
That made me SO HAPPY to see. Like, as a 45 year old who caught the tail end of these shows (mostly in reruns) I could only think that it would be Quinton's mom or dad who would be able to remember them. And I was right!
The weird thing to me is that Russ doesn't seem to remember Love, American Style. I remember watching that show as a baby (yes, I have significant memories as a baby), though I didn't understand any of it. I just remember bits and pieces of the show, the transitions, and the theme song.
But the REALLY weird thing is that there was a show set in a city named Milwaukee. What kind of name for a fictional city is Milwaukee. Just set it in a real city.
I want a fanfic where the Superposition collapses and all the characters suddenly become aware of all the discrepancies and have to explore the psychological ramifications of knowing everything is so very wrong.
I haven’t seen a comment mention this but it’s so awesome it needs to be highlighted how much effort was put into the Gibby! recreation scene. The fact you got the actual actor who played the principal in icarly to read his lines is INSANE!
Ikr I was so happy when I realized they used cameo for it
My jaw dropped when I saw that! I'm just so amazed by the amount of effort put in this! I really like that about this series.
I have to agree, that was so well done!!!
I can only imagine how much he paid to have him do that 🥲 true dedication
Nobody is upset or annoyed that this is a two parter. You've been struggling and im sure the majority understand that. These types of videos take time and you dont need to be harsh on yourself with deadlines. Nobodys expecting something to come out on a specific date, nor does it need to. Take the time you need Quinton.
Can confirm that it was very weird seeing Ariana Grande release a song and music video that was sexy, and then act on Sam and Cat as a grating infantilized character.
I thought the actress and musician were two different people
@@astramouseeverywhere6923💀💀💀
100000000% go read I’m Glad My Mom Died. Jennette is an awesome writer, and knowing what she was going through behind the scenes adds some different context to seeing her as Sam.
Yeah what she had to go through was tragic and depressing and I wont want that for anyone. I hope shes recovered now and that shes happier than ever.
I'm personally blown away by the Principal Franklin cameo.
Like, how dope??? Always taking that extra step, Quinton. No one does it like you, ngl
Same! Definitely that extra special touch that goes above and beyond
The fact that the smallest part of this franchise has taken him this long has led me to believe that he's finally talking about the _feet_
Do you know anything about where he is or whats happened to him?
@@Dallas_isk I don't, but I saw a post he made a few months back where he said he uploaded the first SEVEN hours of the next video to patreon so I guess it's taking so long because it really big, somehow
@@munjee2 wow thanks man for responding just hope his ok lol have a nice day man
@@munjee2nine hours now and he’s still going
@@primemeowwhat's that video about?
Sir,
sir,
Sir Quinton.
No one is upset at all by this video not coming out earlier. Your series and channel as a whole provides fantastic content. The jokes you make about these series are mostly to take the edge off, not to criticize the actors or what they have went through. And the perspective you provide is fascinating and respectful on these weird shows. I hope, just like everyone else who watches this video, that this year turns around for you. Excited for what content you put out next, no matter how long it takes! (Also, love the Russ Reviews short, he did a great job!)
Edit: I JUST NOTICED THE PROFESSOR DOLL AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i was in the middle of slowly rewatching this entire series. i got to the middle of the second half of icarly, so not even close to halfway through. ngl, i could've waited lol
but i'm glad this video is out, of course
yeah couldn't agree more, im just glad that i get this amazing content for free,,,,,truly appreciate his work and i hope he will be happier and happier from now on
Lol well at least after the Star Wars fiasco it seems like he’s gotten his shit together at least
Agree agree agree agree
Hi Neighbors, I have question: do adoptions have RECEIPTS?😅
The segment with your dad was brilliant.
I think we can all agree that Russ is a national treasure.
not gonna lie, this channel is a national treasure.
Both of them eminate the same energy and im all for it LMAO
April fool's day must have been kind to you this year.
I love that Quinton's dad talks just like he does, I don't know if that was script writing or just what they're like off-screen but that was adorable
Live Russ Reaction
@@janefkrbtt Russ Gaming
Honestly with the way that he talked i though he was a reviewer too lmao
One thing that's really missing from this show is the wish fulfillment element that was present in both iCarly and Victorious. It doesn't have the themes of talent and fame running through the plot, it doesn't have an awesome, supportive parental figure like Spencer, and it doesn't even really have Hollywood Arts (which is basically Hogwarts, but with singing instead of witchcraft).
The closest to teenage escapism bait Sam & Cat ever gets is "What if you were able to become roommates with your best friend, with no parents getting in the way?", but that doesn't work because the two girls don't actually like each other and are constantly fighting. It's more like being forced to live with your least favorite cousin.
Also, I feel like this show would have been a lot more structurally sound if the writers had straight up committed to making Sam the unambiguous main character, allowed her to take on more of a straight woman role, and leaned into the odd couple energy between her and Cat.
Kinda like a quirky romantic comedy (except not romantic ... although that would have been awesome), with Cat being Sam's Manic Pixie Dream Girl, causing Sam to defrost over time and become a more balanced character, while Sam in turn becomes a grounding influence on Cat. They could have done either a light-hearted feelgood take on the sitcom formula (in contrast to the show's more mean-spirited predecessors), or added some more mature elements, like actually exploring the characters' respective traumas through comedic plotlines rather than just using their darkest memories as throwaway punchlines.
Then again, that would actually require effort, and why do that when you can just phone it in and hope your actors will pick up the slack?
right! i've been thinking to myself: "what if people had actually put effort into this show? what would that look like?" and your comment here nails it. together, sam and cat had the potential to actually be a great duo if they had allowed both characters to be fully fleshed out characters. they each have a lot of baggage that has been otherwise undiscussed, and having comedic plots lead to genuine emotional moments for the characters and have them grow into more .....normal individuals would have been a pretty good story
It was wish fulfillment for all the kids who wanted to be babysitters, of course /j
@@cosmic3829 Babysitter’s Club did this and did it 1000x better
@@gemstone108 I’m not at all familiar with that show, but seeing how bad Sam and Cat was, I believe you
The show you described sounds amazing, now I'm sad it doesn't exist lmao
2:56:22 I know this may sound ironic, but seeing Jennette interviewing a toilet actually broke my heart. She mentions being ashamed of her acting carreer in her book, and while I will always be fond of Sam Puckett, I can't blame her for that. Jennette has been through a lot, she didn't even want to act to begin with, so I wish she at least didn't have to put up with such embarrassing skits...
On the other hand she seems to have always loved writing, and her book is pretty well written so maybe this could be the start of a great writing career she can be proud of. So a small silver lining at least right?
@@MissCaraMint Yeah, I'm happy that her book is being received so well! Despite the very dark topic, her writing style makes it really enjoyable to read. If she ever decides to publish more works, I'd gladly check them out.
It's not just the skits she was made it to, it's the character itself. Sam is a horrific character and a really bad person to be trying to present positively to young people. She's talked about how bad just playing her made her feel.
that's so sad. going through her book now and its heavy
@@TheWonksterThat in itself is heartbreaking to me because Sam is easily my favorite character in the entire NSU. Jeanette's excellent delivery made Sam more than just a brute.
Fun fact 3:15:10
Jennette is wearing the T-shirt of one of my friends who wrote a song about her. I absolutely lost it the first time I saw this on air. I know this wasn’t a great time for her but I really appreciate that she showed love to Turbo T Double TSST in this episode.
This saga is 27 hours, 17 minutes, and 18 seconds long.
This is roughly 10 hours longer than the LotR + Hobbit trilogies.
I...I have no words.
I have one. Bravo
And unlike the Hobbit movies, this just gets better the longer it keeps going.
You remember how Cat was less simplistic and more of a "normal" character just with anxiety issues in the first two seasons of Victorious? I wonder how Sam & Cat would've turned out if Cat had remained like that. Probably very different.
i remember she was also supposed to be bipolar-coded in the first few episodes (even thought it was done very poorly)
@@audreyisinjured There was a scene where Robby played a song about her on his guitar and he calls her bipolar so I think she was definitely supposed to be bipolar but they just fucked it up really badly.
It feels like to me that Ariana was changing cat's character over time so that when she was able to start her career in music people wouldn't conflate her and cat. My secondary thought was ariana attempting to dissociate on set though no proof of that
Wouldn't that have been just iCarly with Carly and Spencer merged into one character? Cause Cat is (to some degree) Carly's anxiety mixed with Spencer's weirdness.
Well, that, and some heavy trauma that is played for laughs ...
cj the x has a really good video on this!
That extended pause, sigh, and “I miss Tori.” absolutely killed me 😂😂😂😂
I think Sam And Cat is the first show in quite a while to break the trend of a main character singing the theme song. Drake Bell sang the Drake and Josh theme, Jamie Lynn Spears sang the Zoey101 theme, Miranda Cosgrove sang the iCarly theme, and Victoria Justice sang the Victorious theme. The creator asked Jeanette and Ariana to sing the theme and they both declined.
Sam being shamed for eating too much is heartbreaking after knowing what was going on with Jennette
Sorry that you’re feeling down, Quinton. For what it’s worth, I don’t think you’ve failed at all. Your first few videos introduced me to shows I never gave more than a minute as a kid, yet have really enjoyed learning about and getting to know the people behind said shows and what they went through.
Thanks for working so hard on all these videos.
Quinton has created something exceding the standards of the platfrom, he can be proud even if sometimes it can be hard to give yourself that kind of credit
now we wait for the barnyard review
For the people who can't afford to buy Jennette's book, another great way to support her is to read it at your local library!
Many libraries are also connected to Libby, a free, ad-free app that gives you access to your local library's ebook collection (if you have a library card(which is free to get!)). You can read her book there, or listen to her audiobook there.
Also, if there is a waiting list for her work, dont wait, get on it! It tells your library that people are interested in her book and they will purchase more copies!
this! i work at a library and although we don't have the book, we could likely get it from another library or buy it if someone requests it. it's new though, so it might take a while if your library is small like mine.
Yes! I read it on Libby it was so good
So yes, encourage them to buy more copies, but the issue is THERE ARE NO MORE COPIES!
I work at a bookstore and this book has MASSIVELY outsold expectations so they're panicking doing an immediate second printing, and it might be another week or two before they start rolling out copies again.
@@Utgarman Thats why I think Libby is great. Cause they can buy electronic copies for people to read. There's no real worry about there not being enough copies to buy cause its all electronic.
Other RUclipsrs: “I need to hit 10 minutes”
Quinton: “gotta hit 5 hours”
I love the "people will complain MORE about 5 hours than 4 hours!" mentality hahaha
The biggest problem with the theme song. You have TWO music artists as your main characters and neither of them sing the theme song? Zoey 101 theme song sung by Zoey. Drake and Josh theme song was sung by Drake. iCarly theme song was song by Carly (and Drake). VicTORIous was sung by Tori. Why wasn't Sam and Cat sung by Sam or Cat?
Even if neither of them sang, at least have a woman sing in a show named after the two FEMALE protagonists, not a man. Also, it would've been a good chance to have a duet between Jennette and Ariana
haha, i was annoyed by that too when sam & cat first came out
I think it had to do with what Quinton said in this video, that the show team(I forgot who but isn't it ariana herself..?) didn't want to make Sam & Cat a singing show like Victorious thus not make the two main cast sing for their own show to insinuate that but idk tho
it’s so incredibly hard to watch these shows and not feel guilty after reading jennettes book
same. that book was so heartbreaking to read (but it was very enjoyable to read… though i understand if someone would not want to read it due to abuse she went through and other trigger warnings).
@@randomnessatitsfineness190 so true
They are also hard to watch now knowing what Dan Schneider did. But also, I should check out Jennette's book.
its like. now that the book is out and we know about everything that happened theres like a dirtyness around the whole thing that wont go away, but probably shouldn’t.
There's no fun to have from the actual show anymore.
“Later in the day, Sam is visited by none other than BEN SHAPIRO.”
I don’t know why, but Quinton’s way of saying this with complete sincerity while also sounding cheekily self-aware that this is a joke, coupled with how unexpected and unprepared I was, made me CACKLE when I heard this part 😂
I was cleaning and had my phone on my dresser. I had to rewind that part and then I laughed at myself and laughed cause it was such a good joke. I half believed it for a second there 😂😂
@Aquarius Amethyst I did the same thing! 😂
Ah it's probably because it was pretty funny and tickled your sensibilities, I wouldn't worry it's a common enough reaction. I chuckled too but I was confident with the why ☺️
Give time pls i'm watching this in the background but i need to see that and i might miss it
@@voozim9367 1:31:28 :)
Going from the pilot where Cat hugs Sam after agreeing to live with her and declares that this is the best day ever to the finale where Sam purposely leaves Cat in prison just so she can get homecooked meals and clean laundry is honestly really tragic when you think about it. Like, it really serves to highlight just how terrible this relationship is.
1:50:17 made me stop cold. They seriously wrote a scene where Sam and Cat fight because *Sam is eating too much*? Holy shit, the levels of disrespect the writers had for their actors' struggles is insane (edit to fix timestamp, lol)
also kind of wack from the girl who's obsessed with bibble but whatever fuck writing ig
You will never be a real woman.
This isn’t at that time stamp?
You mean 1:50:17
Don’t mean to sound rude but why would the writers know about Jennette’s problems they weren’t close
3:54:24 the fact that quinton's dad immediately has the Same complaint about the pear devices that quinton has previously gone on a whole long rant about ? amazing
Like father like son
He says right before "I think you're right[...]" implying its something thats been mentioned.
That’s not actually his dad though, right?
@@Funeral_Mannequin why would he lie about that?
Quinton acting like we wouldn't sit here and listen to 10+ hours of his dad explaining the history Levern and Shirley
I also think we need a live Russ reaction of every show on here tbh
I'd watch a Quinton & Russ podcast tbh
you must be happy with today's video
@@judydodd3673 I can't even EXPRESS how happy. QuintDad has a GREAT explain some shit voice.
but would you sit here and listen to 24+ hours of Russ explaining the history of The Beverly Hillbillies?
I’ve never seen Kenan & Kel, but apparently it ends with Kel working to become a rapper. So Game Shakers is essentially about Kel Mitchel playing his character from Kenan & Kel, who is also his character from Sam & Cat, who is also an original character.
This is a confusing universe.
I love that the pilot sets up that Sam & Cat will receive a literal lifetime of free food from Inside-Out Burger.... only to spend every subsequent episode at Bots.
Those robot costumes (probably) cost a fortune, and Nickelodeon's gonna get their money's worth dammit!
They likely got banned again and their free food revoked after an offscreen escapade. Probably in which the manager suffered a horrible medical emergency again.
Seeing Quinton and his father both looking absolutely dead inside as they listen to eachother's strange fascination with media outside their expected demographic is kinda delightful in a weird way
Wait is his dad gonna talk about green acres bc if so I'm HYPE for that part
This is not his real dad right? They look the same age.
@@ArnLPs it's his real dad and you need some glasses or a better computer screen or something
@@auxchamp nah honesty I would have thought they were brothers
i deadass thought they were either brothers or cousins. congrats to his dad, he looks young for his age!
I genuinely feel like your dad is really listenable and sounds like he's been doing this for years. I'm ready to watch his 5 hour video essay about the Happy Days universe whenever it comes out.
Quinton should get his dad to do a Quinton Reviews video for him and not once ever acknowledge that it's his dad and not Quinton doing the video
that was the greatest part of this video imo, hope he gets his dad involved more because he's amazing
@@gnalkhere A Quinton Review even, where he reviews Quinton
Lmao that whole bit with each explaining pop culture to the other was fantastic
3 hour breakdown of Beverly Hillbillies.
4:48:17 "(...) from Wicked, which was one of Ariana's favorite musicals. I'm sure that piece of Trivia will never come up again in the story of Ariana's life."
Boy do I and SpongeBob have news for you
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I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT LMAOO
I don't think anyone who really enjoys your content is frustrated with you in any way. I hope you take the time you need and you can get the rest you need to process whatever happened this year.
Agreed 100%
"I'm 24 and I have a boyfriend."
"I'm 16 and I have weasel."
Not gonna lie, that line actually got me pretty good.
Me too.
i also found it funny
It’s a retread. It’s usually something like “I have a boyfriend” “And I have a goldfish”.
Gibby got life figured out
Me too, but not as much as "I need both of my thumbs to wash my weasel."
For anyone who has not read Jennette McCurdy's memoir, get on that shit. She had an insane childhood with one of the most subtly abusive parents I've ever heard of. It's amazing she's still alive and functioning.
Yes, more people need to read it. The insane amount of misinformation and false accusations by people who never even read the book is horrific.
@@noncatholiccatholicrat6309 What false allegations are you referring to? I haven't heard any of these.
@@Jabadamazo from what I've seen it's just tacky "news" publications trying to stir up drama that isn't there, specifically insinuating that Jennette and Ariana have some kind of beef when that is just blatantly untrue. there might be more rumors that I haven't heard but that's one I see a lot.
@@imonyoutuberightnow2668Ahh yeah that sucks. She says in the book that she's not close with Ariana but doesn't have any ill will toward her.
I finished reading it and wow
Powerful stuff
I cannot describe the agony I felt during the gibby pilot. If my name was on that script I would disown myself. I would never be able to look at my father in the eye again and cry every moment I remind my mother that she birthed me
I think the issue with Sam and Cat continuing the legacy that started with All That/Amanda Show/Drake and Josh etc is that those shows didnt have characters from the original shows they just became new vehicles for those actors. Sam and Cat is a full spin off of two shows rather than being a separate show for Ariana and Jeanette to showcase their talents. This is why Sam being a B Plot Character and Cat being a runner character really lets the show down.
I think you can lump in iCarly and Victorious as well
Honestly the length and quality of this overshadows any topically timed disappointment! I’m just excited to see more! And very glad you’ve gotten through the project despite your struggling this year ❤️
He needs to stop using the audience for validation though. It’s fundamentally unhealthy and will only worsen this if the next time he does something that isn’t what the audience wants and if he has spent months on a project for it to get no views. Parasocial relationships are parasitic for the creator and the viewer.
@@eomoran I’m pretty sure he knows this already.
I don’t feel particularly used for validation, I just enjoyed the vid and recently subscribed. Certainly not intended to inhibit personal growth. I can see where you’re coming from though for sure.
it's not badly timed though, you just don't keep up with the algorithm as much as you think you do. jenettes name has been trending for over a month
@@asjalaji is that why she keeps popping up in my feed even though I've never looked her or up or clicked on anything?
The Insider report about Dan Scheider is the most damning and one of the most disgusting childhood-relevations I've ever read. And its crazy how this review came out just in time for that and Jeanette's book.
is there any way to read it without having to subscribe to insider? thanks
Do you know where we can find the report without paying?? I read Jennette's book which had a lot of insight, but I'd like to read the report too. Cheers :)
I read it for free by going to the article and turning on airplane mode before the website finished loading. Hope it works for you 2 as well
@@-metroro- tysm!
@@-metroro- damn you criminal :D