Imposter Shinnok is definitely one of my favorite fighting game characters ever. Nothing is as satisfying as stealing an opponent's move and performing one of their brutalities with it.
Agreed. Even the face rip brutality itself where he literally just steals the opponents face and uses it as a "mask" is super cool. Imposter Shinnok is my main in MKX. Always love playing him
Bone Shaper for me is the most fun variation. You get great preassure though the halbard, a Scoop attack, an unblockable, a fast projectile and some of the best normals in mkx.
Fun fact: Shinnok's AI in MK4 didn't (or maybe even couldn't) morph at all. So imagine after a few attempts of defeating Goro you're facing this joke of a character who meant to be a final boss
his cheap AI doesn't help either be it abuse weapons, pick-ups, etc... lacking personal abilities + can't be morphed make shinnok incredibly easy to beat
Honestly Shinnok has always seemed like a "wasted potential" kind of character. He's a fallen elder god, but always seemed like an ordinary character. Especially his underwhelming MK4 appearance; he's clearly not even a finished character or a worthy boss character. Good thing he has (or had) a relatively high tier spot in MKX, but it took him forever get there lmao. I wonder if he appears in a future MK game, how they'll beef him up to seem like a true "fallen elder god".
I find characters in fighting games who are made to feel powerful usually end up being worse because they tend to give them stuff like an incredibly unsafe massive damage attacks to make you. An example like Justice from GG accent core +r is a decent representation of what I mean. To make you feel like a boss they have to make you so slow it takes like 20 seconds to cross the screen
Mad respect for a fellow creator of templates of memes, gotta be one of my favorite lolcows genres (in 2020 i was the propagander of "khe paso master" and "adios prepa, hola narcotrafico"😊)
MK lore: Shinnock is one of thee most powerful, influential, diabolical villains in MK history Midway: Neat CAN YOU FINNISH DESIGNING HIM IN THE NEXT TEN MINUTES WE HAVE TO RELEASE GAME NOW!!11! /mk4
Very happy you covered Shinnok. He's my favorite villain in the series and I always felt that he's kind of an underrated character and is seen as one of the lesser main antagonists in the series by fans. I like how he improves as a playable fighter in each subsequent iteration. He's by far my most played character in MKX. He's just plain fun across all three variations and (even tho this has nothing to with gameplay) he has some of the coolest intros. Excellent Competitive History video as always!
I have friend named Harukaze, he was an Impostor Shinnok player and he was really good. That character was insane, Bone Shaper in particular was my personal favorite
As always, it is none other than a masterpiece of some kind, but this time having regard to Shinnok, that's great. I was rather surprised having heard of me when it came to the instant teleport technique, and I feel flattered about it. Appreciate it!
My sleeping schedule was already screwed up thanks to the SF6 demo, and now this drops to keep me awake further. MKX's Necromancer Shinnok is probably the most fun I've ever had with an NRS character, alongside MK11 Shang Tsung and MK9 Liu Kang, so I'm interested in knowing how good that variation was. Thanks for doing these, they're always a treat to watch.
Ironically for me, my favorite thing about Shinnok in MK4 that was unique to him, other than the spear and skele-hand, never made it to the other games: His grab. I loved seeing him grab his opponent's legs to get their backs on the ground, then proceeding to step on their neck/chin, then letting go of the legs to just jump on their stomachs. The short, simlish ramble he'd shout as he did this made it both funny and feel like he's really pissed off.
Bone Shaper has quickly become one of my favourite characters to use I play super casual so its mix of 50/50’s, the re-stand with F22 1+2 and zoning is up my alley Plus I just think the weapon is super cool
It doesn't matter how many videos Ketchup and Mustard puts out, the muscle memory of the side step block during the 3D era will never not look absolutely goofy.
The thought occurs to me, what if in MK4 you change to Kai's moveset as Shinnok, change to the handstand stance, then let the timer on the moveset run out, what happens?
really cool video, I really love your channel. I started to fall in love with mortal kombat thanks to your analysis. I was wondering could you make a video about Raiden's competitive history?
I love Aris showing up like Mufasa xDD Great video. I've always loved Shinnok as a character. My favorite appearance of his is actually from Mythologies even though he isn't playable. I wish they would've leaned into that "Emperor Palpatine" look in later installments. I hope they bring him back one day even if he isn't the main threat. The concept of a fallen elder god is so cool but they still haven't quite stuck the landing with him. PS. Please make a Dark Rift video one day
Shinnok is my Favorite MK Villain and seeing how much He changed Over the Years is Fascinating that I have to say Imposter is my Favorite Variation,Hope and Pray The Fallen Elder God returns in MK12 with Upgraded Movesets.
AI Shinnok in MK4 doesn't even use the morphs. Very lame. It would've been cool to see an AI abuse that mechanic in a flawless manner a la MK1 Shang Tsung.
I guess N64 Shinnok was that more user friendly as the announcer would call the name of the character you morph as (say I did B,B,F+HK the announcer will say "Liu Kang") and would say "Shinnok" when you went back to Shinnok. But yeah he unfortunately remained a Shang Tsung bootleg in MK4.
I remember Shinnok was one of my mains. I loved all of his variations but yeah Impostor was his best. I remember if Impostor mimicked Kotal Kahn, you get his slam ability. I forget the combo string but if you did that, followed by his slam, to his X-ray you got like 85% damage. I pulled that off once online before and had the guy rage quit on me. That was awesome.
I didn't know until I was older that people didn't like Shinnok. I always liked him, and I figured it was normal for fighting game sequels to have new final bosses.
The problem with Shinnok was that he had no moves of his own, plus he's a normally playable character. Before MK4, we had Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn and those characters hit hard. Shang Tsung's morphing in MK1 was broken because not only could he chose _when_ to undo his morph and turn into someone else on the spot, but he ignored frame cycles while doing so. Then you have Shao Kahn and his stunlocking Shoulder Charge and physical attacks that send you across the screen Shinnok had none of that. It's even worse considering he was the final boss of Mythologies sub-Zero, yet had his own moveset with absolutely zero mimicking involved
@@saidi7975 quan chi literally had his first appearance in defenders of the realm where he was a doofy idiot before his mythologies and mk4 debut Tho at least he has something going unlike shinnok who's been lame minute 1
Ah Shinnok when I casually played MKX at Middle school age(I’m not joking. This game was at this time keeping me playing from how the gameplay felt. Still I sucked as the only thing I could do with meter was attempt X rays which are the entire meter for a single roided up hit or just breaker.) was the character who’s impostor variant eluded me. I just played an agressive manner mainly using normals to short combo hit and run.
Tbh I would say shinnoks morph ability is more sneaky as your opponent won't know what move set you have until you use a special move so catching your opponent by surprise is more likely
I really want a Kompetitive History of Scorpion, Sub-Zero, and other klassic characters. They'd definitely be long videos, but they would definitely be enjoyable.
Interesting journey this character has had. I must admit that high level shinnok gameplay was always entertaining. I hope Johnny cage will soon receive a competitive history!
Small correction regarding the MK4 section but the announcer actually calls out the name of the fighter Shinnok mimics when he changes and then says Shinnok when it ends
Crazy for how many characters MKX became such a glowup in terms of competitive strength after literally years of being a total joke or simply unremarkable. Then X releases and like half the roster is tournament viable. Compare that to how 9 panned out
Hey ketchup, can you drop that background sound you used the MK4 overview. It's been stuck in my head all night and I need it man. Love the videos and appreciate the content
I may be wrong, but wasn't Shinnoks morph in the console version of MK4 identified by the announcer saying the name of the character you currently are or yourself when it ends? Haven't played MK4 in 8 years so I'm fuzzy on the deets
wait a minute if shinnok had no speacial moves what were those bonehand attacks that would come out of the ground and there were a couple others from base shinnok on mk4
Imposter Shinnok is definitely one of my favorite fighting game characters ever. Nothing is as satisfying as stealing an opponent's move and performing one of their brutalities with it.
Not to mention the absolutely demented setups you can do with air teleport, which is an Imposter only move for some reason 😅
Agreed. Even the face rip brutality itself where he literally just steals the opponents face and uses it as a "mask" is super cool. Imposter Shinnok is my main in MKX. Always love playing him
Insta-air Teleport is so fun😤
@@stressedrex Oh, how I miss the face rip. I took a screenshot whenever I caught someone online with it
Bone Shaper for me is the most fun variation. You get great preassure though the halbard, a Scoop attack, an unblockable, a fast projectile and some of the best normals in mkx.
Fun fact: Shinnok's AI in MK4 didn't (or maybe even couldn't) morph at all. So imagine after a few attempts of defeating Goro you're facing this joke of a character who meant to be a final boss
his cheap AI doesn't help either
be it abuse weapons, pick-ups, etc...
lacking personal abilities + can't be morphed make shinnok incredibly easy to beat
I find it funny how he's supposed to be a literal god, but in his first appearance (as a final boss no less) he's just "We have Shang Tsung at home"
Honestly Shinnok has always seemed like a "wasted potential" kind of character. He's a fallen elder god, but always seemed like an ordinary character. Especially his underwhelming MK4 appearance; he's clearly not even a finished character or a worthy boss character. Good thing he has (or had) a relatively high tier spot in MKX, but it took him forever get there lmao. I wonder if he appears in a future MK game, how they'll beef him up to seem like a true "fallen elder god".
I mean he is kinda a severed head so maybe in Kang’s new world he could show up?
Dudes legit gone now. Least he should be because Kang made sure of it
Mk1: and then there's Shinnok, he's dead
I find characters in fighting games who are made to feel powerful usually end up being worse because they tend to give them stuff like an incredibly unsafe massive damage attacks to make you. An example like Justice from GG accent core +r is a decent representation of what I mean. To make you feel like a boss they have to make you so slow it takes like 20 seconds to cross the screen
1:07 Fun fact, I was the first person to crop that specific image of Shinnok and start spreading it around as a reaction image since 2015.
Your services are appreciated
@@PNDKM Happy to see it in use. Maximum Smug Shinnok is a special kind of expression.
Mad respect for a fellow creator of templates of memes, gotta be one of my favorite lolcows genres (in 2020 i was the propagander of "khe paso master" and "adios prepa, hola narcotrafico"😊)
MK lore: Shinnock is one of thee most powerful, influential, diabolical villains in MK history
Midway: Neat CAN YOU FINNISH DESIGNING HIM IN THE NEXT TEN MINUTES WE HAVE TO RELEASE GAME NOW!!11!
/mk4
Bone Shaper Shinnok is one of the coolest things in MKX for me. That bone scythe is badass
Very happy you covered Shinnok. He's my favorite villain in the series and I always felt that he's kind of an underrated character and is seen as one of the lesser main antagonists in the series by fans. I like how he improves as a playable fighter in each subsequent iteration. He's by far my most played character in MKX. He's just plain fun across all three variations and (even tho this has nothing to with gameplay) he has some of the coolest intros. Excellent Competitive History video as always!
I would love to see a Room Tour video or a video showcasing all your Mortal Kombat memorabilia some day.
I’ve never thought about it, but now that you mention it, I would love to know the random MK stuff they’ve acquired over the years.
This.
I have friend named Harukaze, he was an Impostor Shinnok player and he was really good. That character was insane, Bone Shaper in particular was my personal favorite
Why can't I like these videos more than once?
Funny how Shinnok went from having no sauce of his own to being a real vortex threat.
Underappreciated character, i am so ready for this video
He's not underappreciated, he's just bad.
@@Euro.Patriot He's good.
@@subzer0pl Elder god power, can't beat ice man.
@@Euro.Patriot to each their own. I personally enjoyed him in Armageddon and X, although I wished necromancer was a bit stronger
@@Euro.Patriot he is mistreated just like the rest of the cast
As always, it is none other than a masterpiece of some kind, but this time having regard to Shinnok, that's great. I was rather surprised having heard of me when it came to the instant teleport technique, and I feel flattered about it. Appreciate it!
We wanted to make sure to mention who told us so many years ago!
My sleeping schedule was already screwed up thanks to the SF6 demo, and now this drops to keep me awake further.
MKX's Necromancer Shinnok is probably the most fun I've ever had with an NRS character, alongside MK11 Shang Tsung and MK9 Liu Kang, so I'm interested in knowing how good that variation was.
Thanks for doing these, they're always a treat to watch.
Ironically for me, my favorite thing about Shinnok in MK4 that was unique to him, other than the spear and skele-hand, never made it to the other games: His grab. I loved seeing him grab his opponent's legs to get their backs on the ground, then proceeding to step on their neck/chin, then letting go of the legs to just jump on their stomachs. The short, simlish ramble he'd shout as he did this made it both funny and feel like he's really pissed off.
Bone Shaper has quickly become one of my favourite characters to use
I play super casual so its mix of 50/50’s, the re-stand with F22 1+2 and zoning is up my alley
Plus I just think the weapon is super cool
I just recently reinstalled MKX to learn Shinnok, and bone shaper is a blast to play. K&M always deliver.
It doesn't matter how many videos Ketchup and Mustard puts out, the muscle memory of the side step block during the 3D era will never not look absolutely goofy.
That Competitive History of Kano is coming... I can feel it. It'll be a longer one, for sure. But, It'll be so good when it happens.
The thought occurs to me, what if in MK4 you change to Kai's moveset as Shinnok, change to the handstand stance, then let the timer on the moveset run out, what happens?
Shinnok has always been my boy. Love the design.
I’m so happy they showed sonicfox losing at the end
I am addicted to this series. Thanks for keeping it going.
Great video ketchup! I really enjoyed it. How about making a shang tsung video next?
Still holding out for Johnny Cage in this series :) excellent work!
No need to hold out. His time will come!
I often wondered where he sat within the tier list, as he was a character I never thought about.
gawd I love these.....you guys are truly a treasure
3am where I’m at, still finna watch the newest episode 💪🏼
really cool video, I really love your channel.
I started to fall in love with mortal kombat thanks to your analysis.
I was wondering could you make a video about Raiden's competitive history?
17:16 I always thought he was shooting with a laser gun
I could listen to Ketchup talk MK for hours. He's an amazing speaker and presenter of information
man shinnok gets too much hate, i like him.
So right away during the MK4 part when you're talking about how Shinnok NEEDS to morph I was thinking....5:10 yeah, exactly that tbh...
Anyone who hasn’t played Armageddon has robbed themself
I love Aris showing up like Mufasa xDD
Great video. I've always loved Shinnok as a character. My favorite appearance of his is actually from Mythologies even though he isn't playable. I wish they would've leaned into that "Emperor Palpatine" look in later installments. I hope they bring him back one day even if he isn't the main threat. The concept of a fallen elder god is so cool but they still haven't quite stuck the landing with him.
PS. Please make a Dark Rift video one day
I think an episode on Kano would be super interesting. He's been there since the beginning, but, to my knowledge, he's always been low tier
Now let's see if he's DLC for MK1 in 2024.
14:36 hey alright
Shinnok is really cool, I loved watching him in MKX
So Imposter Shinnok is Kirby?
Neat
Yes, but somehow less of an elder god than the pink puffball
Shinnok is one of my favorite characters but my goodness i hated fighting him in X.
Shinnok is my Favorite MK Villain and seeing how much He changed Over the Years is Fascinating that I have to say Imposter is my Favorite Variation,Hope and Pray The Fallen Elder God returns in MK12 with Upgraded Movesets.
This series is awesome! I’m always looking forward to the next episode. I hope Nightwolf will get his turn.
I feel Nightwolf would be a fun one to review, to my knowledge, he’s never been above mid tier.
I'm pretty sure he was really good in 3 and or U3.
It's LORD Shinnok to you peasants!
AI Shinnok in MK4 doesn't even use the morphs. Very lame. It would've been cool to see an AI abuse that mechanic in a flawless manner a la MK1 Shang Tsung.
I guess N64 Shinnok was that more user friendly as the announcer would call the name of the character you morph as (say I did B,B,F+HK the announcer will say "Liu Kang") and would say "Shinnok" when you went back to Shinnok. But yeah he unfortunately remained a Shang Tsung bootleg in MK4.
I remember Shinnok was one of my mains. I loved all of his variations but yeah Impostor was his best. I remember if Impostor mimicked Kotal Kahn, you get his slam ability. I forget the combo string but if you did that, followed by his slam, to his X-ray you got like 85% damage. I pulled that off once online before and had the guy rage quit on me. That was awesome.
Great video!, id love too see a video on Baraka, keep up the great work!
I have been waiting for this🔥
"Dude, I'm Aris" is one of the most iconic FGC moments of all time. Dude had to change his whole identity after meeting the real Aris 😂
which match was this?
@@mr.nonamefalloffchair6443 it wasn't a match just a salty interaction between two stoners at a tournament
Awesome video can you do Liu Kang next?
YESSS SHINNOK!
Seeing the notification made my day.
I didn't know until I was older that people didn't like Shinnok. I always liked him, and I figured it was normal for fighting game sequels to have new final bosses.
The problem with Shinnok was that he had no moves of his own, plus he's a normally playable character. Before MK4, we had Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn and those characters hit hard. Shang Tsung's morphing in MK1 was broken because not only could he chose _when_ to undo his morph and turn into someone else on the spot, but he ignored frame cycles while doing so. Then you have Shao Kahn and his stunlocking Shoulder Charge and physical attacks that send you across the screen
Shinnok had none of that. It's even worse considering he was the final boss of Mythologies sub-Zero, yet had his own moveset with absolutely zero mimicking involved
"knock knock"
"who is there?"
"she"
"she who?"
*"shinnok-nnok open up the door it is real!"*
A Bo rai cho competitive history 👀
That was me EXACTLY, for MKX Imposter was amazing but Bone Shaper let me catch folks slipping a lot more so that's where I went.
This is one of the episodes I've really been looking for. That and Jonny Cage.
Shinnok and Quan Chi are two characters that were meant to replace shang tsung but both failed at their job to do so...especially Quan Chi
Shang Tsung kinda had the movie to become a cooler character. Before that he was bootleg Dave Lo Pan. Shinnok and Quan Chi at least started fun.
@@saidi7975 quan chi literally had his first appearance in defenders of the realm where he was a doofy idiot before his mythologies and mk4 debut
Tho at least he has something going unlike shinnok who's been lame minute 1
I love necromancer I went on a 28+ win streak online with him
As a black mortal kombat fan I love your videos keep it up ketchup
Babe wake up, a new Competitive History video just dropped
I was really hoping for this one soon
Ah Shinnok when I casually played MKX at Middle school age(I’m not joking. This game was at this time keeping me playing from how the gameplay felt. Still I sucked as the only thing I could do with meter was attempt X rays which are the entire meter for a single roided up hit or just breaker.) was the character who’s impostor variant eluded me. I just played an agressive manner mainly using normals to short combo hit and run.
Competitive history vid on wake up? Yessirski!!!!!!
Please do the competitive history of Baraka!
Ah yes, The god who needs a trip to the spa due to how Pale he is
What a great pick me up while at work
shinnok was playing a different game on the last patch he was easliy the best in the game
I like how Shinnok is like Morbius. He needs to morph!
I hope Shang Tsung will get one of these some day.😊
I'd love to see Shinnok come back in the next MK game.
Shinnok for 2024, that way we keep the 9 year traditional gap alive and strong!
Tbh I would say shinnoks morph ability is more sneaky as your opponent won't know what move set you have until you use a special move so catching your opponent by surprise is more likely
Woah, an infinite that throws, AND shoots. Me likey.
I really want a Kompetitive History of Scorpion, Sub-Zero, and other klassic characters. They'd definitely be long videos, but they would definitely be enjoyable.
I love these videos so much
Interesting journey this character has had. I must admit that high level shinnok gameplay was always entertaining. I hope Johnny cage will soon receive a competitive history!
I mained imposter shinnok in mkx, once i played enough to learn matchups he was an absolute beast
ah yes, the 2AM MK Competitive video...my favorite
It's 17:51.
Brilliant 👏 thank you 😊 ❤
Small correction regarding the MK4 section but the announcer actually calls out the name of the fighter Shinnok mimics when he changes and then says Shinnok when it ends
Console versions as well? My version of MK4 only has the sound effect and no announcer.
@@PNDKM Definitely console versions. I've got the N64 and Gold versions and he always says the name
Every 9 years Shinnok makes it into the roster? That means his next apperance will be in 2024... Shinnok confirmed for MK12.
I always liked Shinnok's designs in MK4 as a kid, didn't really dig his look in MK Armageddon and absolutely dislike his look in MKX
His Armageddon design is the best, so cool, so colorful, and it's also the only game where he's intimidating storywise.
I love his horizontal fly in mk4 looks so goofy
Love the content.
Shinnok becomes playable every 9 years? MKX = 2015. 2015+9=..... Shinnok confirmed for DLC in 2024!
you might actually be onto something
Please do Kitana next PUHLEAAAASE
Let's be real....Shinnok got boned.
Crazy for how many characters MKX became such a glowup in terms of competitive strength after literally years of being a total joke or simply unremarkable. Then X releases and like half the roster is tournament viable. Compare that to how 9 panned out
Please Shang Tsung next🔥
Can’t wait for next year as that would mark 9 years since mkx
I like how it took til MKX for them to actually show a [Fallen] Elder God is a powerful threat.
Hey ketchup, can you drop that background sound you used the MK4 overview. It's been stuck in my head all night and I need it man. Love the videos and appreciate the content
Street fighter ex2 plus
I may be wrong, but wasn't Shinnoks morph in the console version of MK4 identified by the announcer saying the name of the character you currently are or yourself when it ends? Haven't played MK4 in 8 years so I'm fuzzy on the deets
Only N64 version
@@electrichat ahh ok.. I knew I remembered that from somewhere
What are the top five Quan Chi moves you want to see return in Mortal Kombat 12? I want to see Quan Chi’s skydrop move return.
Maybe this time if it returns it'll actually function properly.
Skydrop was probably the worst move in mkx
Make a competitive history on Raiden, Subzero, Scorpion, please
Loved playing imposter shinnok in mkx, I love this series, I’d like to see a linear character, that being mavado
When the god of death does the same amount of damage as everybody excluded his unplayable appearance.
wait a minute if shinnok had no speacial moves what were those bonehand attacks that would come out of the ground and there were a couple others from base shinnok on mk4