UPDATE: Please see the notes below provided by Anthem. During my review, I checked for updates within the Anthem app and it said the firmware is up to date. I am working with Anthem on the two step process to get the MCU version updated to the latest version. 1.The HDMI Audio dropout with Kaleidescape products was a known issue caused by the way the Kaleidescape player would send EDID information to the MRX/AVM. We worked to patch the problem on our end via firmware. This issue was resolved last year and requires that the AVM/MRX MCU version be updated. Can you please tell us the Release Version and MCU Version that shows on the “Information” Page in the web user interface? We saw the response where a follower mentioned that it was resolved with a FW update and you replied you were on the latest release version, network module release version (2.3.213). That said, it is possible that the unit's MCU version is still out of date based on your reported experience. The current MCU version is 00.80 for 4K models and HD.80 for 8K models. This has created confusion in the past, as the MCU update is a 2 step process if "Automatic Updates" has not been enabled in the unit. Feedback on streamlining the update process has been documented and acknowledged for future product releases, and is currently implemented on the new MRX SLM. 2. In regards to the relative volume “0 dB” discussion mentioned in your video, that will vary based on each calibration. ARC Genesis measures the sensitivity of the speaker system compared to the room and sets the system-wide target level accordingly. The level adjustment will vary based on speaker sensitivity, primary listening position (ARC sets channel levels based off the first position measured), room size, and other influencing factors. While ARC Genesis always tries to achieve a 75dB target level, this can vary based on the user's specific installation and calibration. This is why the volume level on the receiver is treated as more of a listener's preference, rather than an absolute value.
@@bryanhenn3223 agree with BryanHenn, love Youthman’s product reviews. They’re always helpful with buying decisions. Looking forward for checking out that backlog!
I bought and then returned the AVM 70 due to too many technical problems. I loved the audio quality and the app/configuration options were amazing but they were overshadowed by other issues. I replaced it with the Marantz AV10 which for me was the right decision.
@@seanlacroix actually I think it’s easier to setup the AVM. I had the AVM for about 3 months and knew every option. I loved it for how flexible it was and easy to configure and the sound was phenomenal. Just too many technical issues.
@@MrJgp2012 There were a lot of technical issues. The only one I've found is a HDMI handshake problem caused by Apple TV. It basically holds Dolby Vision hostage until you swap to the aTV input and back again. Only issue I've run across.
Agree with OP, originally had a lot of technical issues that were annoying. Most have been fixed now. Would love the Av10 but at half the price the avm 70 8k is great band for buck.
As soon as i purchase enough seperate amps, then I'll definitely switch to anthem. I just want the processor to process and amps to amp. 😅 im looking for full structural damage over here. No half stepping. 😂
Unfortunately it is impossible to accurately compare the HTP-1 that I reviewed 4 years ago to something I’m reviewing today’s out audible memory is terrible.
Recently swapped from Emotiva XMC2 to the Anthem AVM70 and have been enjoying it so far. The addition of the web UI was killer when setting things up as my equipment is in another room in a rack. I noticed the lack of bass (even with multiple subs that were calibrated with REW and MSO) but some simple crossover tweaks i was able to bring it all back. The ability to adjust individual things within ARC is a massive standout feature without having to do a full calibration over again. Ive yet to experience any audio cutouts but i do have some handshake issues on every initial boot. That's about my only issue and could be hdmi cable related.
I meant to note, Dolby surround doesn't seem to do as good of a job at centering vocals from 2 channel content to the center speaker. Surrounds feel used a lot more on the anthem vs emotiva. I feel I get a broader sound image and an overall more enjoyable experience
@@BrentWood-yv6cl can't say I've experienced that. I do get a random pink screen once in awhile when using the shield but everything seems to be resolved by switching inputs back and forth. Thankfully it switched inputs 10x faster than my emotiva so I don't really complain
I don't think comparing to the MarantzAV10 which is at a higher tier and higher specification level is a fair comparison. The AV10 competes with the Anthem AVM90. The AVM70 probably compares with the Marantz AV7706
Stellar product , i have had it for 2yrs bought as future proofing for my 5.2 system which has now grown to a 7.2.4 system. Not looking to do anything except maybe make upgrade to 7.2.6 in a year .
Still running my old Marantz 8015! Runs as good as the say it was pulled in. NEVER had an issue. I looked my self at Anthem and a few others. It seem like alot of people was having alot of handshake issues, and technical issue. I'm also glad to see yours worked out all right for your testing. I've decided to hold off to the next gen. If my Marantz makes it that far 🤞. I really want Trinnov 😂
Unfortunately it seems all of these smaller brand processors have hiccups. More options, more problems. Eventually you get what you want but they are not plug and play like marantz or recievers. I love my rmc1l but it runs like an old car.
Glad you like the AVM70! I'm hoping I can help you with the intermittent audio issue. I have the Anthem MRX740 8K and I was having the exact same issue with my PlayStation 5. The audio would cut out every 30 seconds or so and immediately come back. It ended up being a firmware issue. Once I updated the firmware I never had the issue again! The firmware update process takes two steps on the Anthems. First you either use the Web interface or the app and download the new firmware update, which basically sends it to the unit but you still have to manually install it. Next manually use your remote on the AVM70 and scroll to the update section and tell it to apply or install the update. Hopefully this fixes your issue!
@@Youthman some folks online are also saying they had to completely reset their strato player and that also seems to help it. Hope it all works out for you man!
My Anthem began having an issue this week and wanted to point out that Anthems customer service was amazing. My unit began to not pick up any audio signals when first powered up. The only remedy was to immediately power it off and then on again, and then I would have audio. I did some troubleshooting with Anthem and they decided the unit needed to be replaced. They were super easy to work with and they stand behind their product.
I love my MRX1140, but will not be purchasing another Anthem product due to their false advertising during launch (no Roon and no DTS:x pro despite being advertised as available on the website when the product was launched). it’s a shame because it’s a good product, but if you can’t trust the brand then that’s that 🤷🏾♂️
Wonderful review! I have owned the AVM 70 for about 4 years now (not the 8k) and the channel separation is incredible. I will never go back to a receiver again. Thanks to your comparison between AVR and processor video I took the risk. I am glad I did. Love the sound I have now.
Let me ask you. If run all your hdmi's to the tv and earc to the avm70 does let the tv do the video processing and the processor handle the sound? Meaning at that point there is no need to upgrade to the 8k units?
@@charlesking678 Great question! My understanding is the TV would be handling just the video switching side and the processor would be handling the dedicated audio. I do not own anything 8k or any content (if there is any) so the 4k version of this processor works just fine for me. Not sure if this answers your question or not.
This line of AVM/MRX rocks - I could never go back to Denon for Atmos, it was clear without even running ARC. Then ARC is addictive. I haven’t heard full dirac it was out of my price range when I got MRX1140 4K.
ARC and eARC are super flakey. I see zero reason to run everything into your atV. Am AVR or Processor’s will do a much better job with audio processing and video switching than a TV will.
@@charlesking678 you only need 8K thing if you do 4K120 gaming form PS5 or Xbox or high end PC. Otherwise save a bunch and find a 4K model if you can find one or maybe even used!
Nice review, i agree with your negative point where the reference level in the Anthem is -10db, i wish Anthem fixes this but they won't as all their users are fan boys & will defend Anthem for whatever negatives are there too. I got the MRX1140 since 2 years now.. Even the Sweep tones during ARC are freaking loud & can damage speakers i feel, it's around 90db+ Again when i mention this in forums/groups i get backlashed..
Had the same issue with the audio drop outs with amazon cube 4k. Swapped from 5m hdmi 2.1 cable to 3m cable to tv and 1.5m cable to the cube and that resolved the issue.
Had mine for 2 years now. Absolutely love it. Still annoyed that they haven't added DTS X Pro likely said they would. Other than that and the poor hdmi control / switching (compared to a denon) it is a perfect beast.
Hi,from your Experience ,is there a drastic sound changes in performance in Anthem Av 70 when compared to Marantz Av 7706. what all changes have you experienced ?
Marantz is rock solid, zero bugs, easy to setup but limited in many respects. Anthem sometimes will lose audio when using Kaleidescape. Their app crashes a lot. Anthem gives you MUCH more flexibility in calibration, configuration, virtual inputs etc. Both sound great but Anthem took more work to dial in my bass.
@Youthman thanks for your reply....so now am using Marantz Av 7706 So its worth to change on to Anthem Av 70 8k processor...and in sound I can feel the difference as well?...So it will be right choice,pls advice!!!
@Audioenthusatic as I shared in my review, the avium 70 offers a lot more customization, but it also requires a higher learning curve. It really depends on if you’re willing to learn how to utilize the tools within it. It’s not automatic and hand holding like Audyssey.
Thanks for reviewing the Anthem 8K. I am torn between denon 8500 and going the separate route with Anthem AVM70. I have an Outlaw 5000 which I can use with Denon 8500 preamp mode or Anthem AVM70 if needed. Is the sound difference that noticeable between the Denon vs Anthem AVM70?
Balanced connections actually do not improve the sound unless you have a hum from RCA connections. You do get a 3dB gain with XLR, but room correction will level match all of your speakers.
I know purist won’t recommend it but you can also try Super Sub Fronts mode - Gene from AH also loved it. This would keep the L&R full range while still doing bass manage for that punch you in the face bass.
Sounds like the hdmi input has a short in it, my Denon center preout has a short in it so I’m not able to use the preout on it. I just bumped up the center channel since it’s not running to an external amp.
To me, the question at the moment is: AVM70 or AVM90? If AVM90, it brings another question: AVM90 or Marantz AV10? I have 4 subs - but is it really worth the jump to the 90 or AV10? Youthman, based on your tests, what do you think?
Honestly, it’s difficult for me to say because I have no experience with the AV 90 or the AV 10. I have a patron that switch from the anthem to the AV10 and he loves it. Rock solid performance.
Raise the deep bass boost and the room gain. Also ignore when ARC tells you that subs needs to be trimmed down on the back of the sub amp. That personally woke my sub up. I just watched the new Twister 4k disk and thought my living rooms was about to collapse. It sounded amazing.
As much as I would like to upgrade my processor, SR6012, it's hard to justify in my room and budget. I really like the performance of my Marantz. I would consider, maybe one day upgrading for an improvement to Audessy like Dirac but even then will take a hit on the budget. Just not convinced of the return is worth it.
Wait your review never really reviews the sound output just the app really and some outputs...hardly a review. Again being critical here but you have done a lot better.
Maybe you missed the part where I said “Each channel is precise and detailed and provides a very smooth and immersive experience in my home theater. In addition to movies, concert movies sound fantastic as well. While listening to Sting’s concert on Kaleidescape, the drums are tight and punchy. Vocals are up front and clear and crowd sounds authentic and really places you in the audience.” 🤷♂️
I remember when you had the Marantz 7705 in way back when. Did you notice a change in sound quality between the 7705 and the 7706? Or was the hdmi the only change from the 7705?
Curious, I've had my anthem AVM 70 for just over a year now. My son and I decided to hook up his PS5 while he's on college break to try out the new NCAA football. I noticed in your video you had a PS5 input. When we went to change the refresh rate to 120 for 4k, it said it wasn't supported. I have a Epson LS12000 which supports the refresh rate and hdmi 2.1. Any ideas if this is a settings issue I need to adjust?
@@Youthmanit happens when using my shield pro streaming apps, I can’t remember if it has happened using my hard drive through the shield but certainly while streaming through the shield
Hmmm.. can we expect a follow up video discussing your impressions of ARC vs. Audyssey in more detail?that exciting video with your friend comparing the 8015 to the 7706, I’ve watched like 3 times, on my 8015 no less lol.
Since publishing that video, I've learned that our audible memory isn't nearly as great as we think it is. Derek and I shared our honest experience. Even though we both did not think we would hear a difference, we felt we did. Was that due to Audyssey calibrating differently (as we know room correction can vary greatly from each calibration)? Was it bias telling us we heard a difference (since we were aware of what changed in the system)? I honestly do not know the answer. To do it effectively, I would need some type of switcher so I could switch between each processor within a fraction of a second. I do not currently have that ability.
I can say I absolutely enjoy my AV7706 and I also absolutely love the sound from the Anthem AVM70. It would be fun if I had a way of fast switching and could do a blind A/B test between the two.
@@Youthman regarding “rerunning Audyssey”, there’s no need for that if two processors have the same version of Audyssey and channel configuration capabilities. Just upload the same Audyssey file from the app or MultEQ X to both units and the exact same room corrections will be applied to both. Too late for that now on the 8015 v 7706 but just wanted to dispel the myth about different Audyssey calibrations. It’s true two runs will yield different results because their error band is big, but you don’t need to do two different runs for two different units unless they are different versions of Audyssey or different channel configurations. In which case, what exactly are you comparing then?
@@Youthman ya and I’m saying you should not have run Audyssey that second time. You should have used the same calibration file for both units. It’s ok, it’s long gone now but for future use, when comparing Sonic differences between AVR’s or PrePros that both use the same calibration, just run it once, configure all units the same, and upload that one calibration file to all units. Now you’ve removed “different Audyssey runs” from the equation.
Never had the app close or dropouts. Sort of odd that you are seeing that. I don't have the 8k though just the 4k. You can save a ton finding those on closeouts.
The app should be the same regardless of what model you have. The audio dropouts could be a number of issues. Others have shared. They have had similar issues with theirs. They had to restart the Kaleidescape completely.
@@Youthman I guess I have not been in the app all that long. I've never seen many issues with it when setting up inputs. I've used it a little bit for volume and other things but mostly not in it. Had the Arcam avr 20 and the app was far worse. It closed all the time even in the middle of things.
nice vid of the avm 70 - would you ever do one on the avm 90 its supposed to be better than the 70 and closer to a trinnov attitude 16 but not quite. 🤑🤑😄
@@Youthman I got in touch with someone who suggested I just get it in to my system and don't worry about th ARC for a couple of. months - just live with it and take it from there . . . That is probably what I am going to do. Thanks for your comment.
I was a little disappointed with this review. It was more a review of the app, and not comprehensive enough or in depth enough on the unit itself. I dont want to sound negative , as i enjoy your videos, but im just being honest mike
I appreciate the feedbacks None of my reviews will please everyone since we all are looking for something different and what might be important to one person is trivial to another. What specifically would you have liked me to have covered more?
The reason I spent so much time with the app is to share the incredible amount of flexibility that you have with ARC Genesis. You don’t get that with Audyssey.
Sound comparisons to other units in particular more in depth for music and movies comparisons. Connections which is best rca/ xlr...I thought the audio drop out bug was fixed years ago. Any other issues..thanks There are lots of reviews out there but yours is relevant because it's 2024..I'm in the market for a 70 or 90...but we're getting closer to Anthems 5 year cycle so could new processor be a year or 2 away?
Unfortunately it seems all of these smaller brand processors have hiccups. More options, more problems. Eventually you get what you want but they are not plug and play like marantz or recievers. I love my rmc1l but it runs like an old car.
UPDATE: Please see the notes below provided by Anthem. During my review, I checked for updates within the Anthem app and it said the firmware is up to date. I am working with Anthem on the two step process to get the MCU version updated to the latest version.
1.The HDMI Audio dropout with Kaleidescape products was a known issue caused by the way the Kaleidescape player would send EDID information to the MRX/AVM. We worked to patch the problem on our end via firmware. This issue was resolved last year and requires that the AVM/MRX MCU version be updated. Can you please tell us the Release Version and MCU Version that shows on the “Information” Page in the web user interface? We saw the response where a follower mentioned that it was resolved with a FW update and you replied you were on the latest release version, network module release version (2.3.213). That said, it is possible that the unit's MCU version is still out of date based on your reported experience. The current MCU version is 00.80 for 4K models and HD.80 for 8K models. This has created confusion in the past, as the MCU update is a 2 step process if "Automatic Updates" has not been enabled in the unit. Feedback on streamlining the update process has been documented and acknowledged for future product releases, and is currently implemented on the new MRX SLM.
2. In regards to the relative volume “0 dB” discussion mentioned in your video, that will vary based on each calibration. ARC Genesis measures the sensitivity of the speaker system compared to the room and sets the system-wide target level accordingly. The level adjustment will vary based on speaker sensitivity, primary listening position (ARC sets channel levels based off the first position measured), room size, and other influencing factors. While ARC Genesis always tries to achieve a 75dB target level, this can vary based on the user's specific installation and calibration. This is why the volume level on the receiver is treated as more of a listener's preference, rather than an absolute value.
I missed videos like this for your reviewing products
Me too Bryan! I’m more focused now than ever. I have a back log of reviews that I will be working through. Thank you for your encouraging words.
@@bryanhenn3223 agree with BryanHenn, love Youthman’s product reviews. They’re always helpful with buying decisions. Looking forward for checking out that backlog!
Great review! Would love to see a room correction comparison with measurements of ARC vs. Audyssey and Dirac too if you have something on hand.
If you set the input trims to -10db for each input under the inputs section in the app then 0db = reference level on your volume scale. Great video 👍
Finally an awaited review! Thanks for making the video Michael!😊
It’s shameful it took me this long to make it. I let other priorities get in the way of my reviews.
You can change the order of the inputs with the desktop version of the app
What’s the secret? I can’t drag any of them on the desktop version either.
@@Youthman You have to use the "insert before" button top left when creating it.
I mentioned that in the video but how do you move one that you have already created?
I bought and then returned the AVM 70 due to too many technical problems. I loved the audio quality and the app/configuration options were amazing but they were overshadowed by other issues. I replaced it with the Marantz AV10 which for me was the right decision.
Marantz just works. Period! Mine have always been rock solid as well.
@@MrJgp2012 just admit that you didn’t know how to set it up properly.
@@seanlacroix actually I think it’s easier to setup the AVM. I had the AVM for about 3 months and knew every option. I loved it for how flexible it was and easy to configure and the sound was phenomenal. Just too many technical issues.
@@MrJgp2012 There were a lot of technical issues. The only one I've found is a HDMI handshake problem caused by Apple TV. It basically holds Dolby Vision hostage until you swap to the aTV input and back again. Only issue I've run across.
Agree with OP, originally had a lot of technical issues that were annoying. Most have been fixed now. Would love the Av10 but at half the price the avm 70 8k is great band for buck.
I got the avm90 8k over the Christmas sale ..love the difference coming from denonx8500h no comparison great video love arc genesis too
As soon as i purchase enough seperate amps, then I'll definitely switch to anthem. I just want the processor to process and amps to amp. 😅 im looking for full structural damage over here. No half stepping. 😂
MRX1140 is very solid and has strong RCA voltage and extra channels can go to zone 2
Anthem really needs to create a feature like Denon's Dynamic EQ to help with bass
It can’t measure the distances properly and Anthem knows it and is working on it!
Ok so now the review is out how do you compare the sound of the AVM 70 8K versus the HTP-1 along with Dirac vs ARC.
Unfortunately it is impossible to accurately compare the HTP-1 that I reviewed 4 years ago to something I’m reviewing today’s out audible memory is terrible.
I have a AVM 90 the sound detail on Anthem is amazing!
Recently swapped from Emotiva XMC2 to the Anthem AVM70 and have been enjoying it so far. The addition of the web UI was killer when setting things up as my equipment is in another room in a rack.
I noticed the lack of bass (even with multiple subs that were calibrated with REW and MSO) but some simple crossover tweaks i was able to bring it all back. The ability to adjust individual things within ARC is a massive standout feature without having to do a full calibration over again.
Ive yet to experience any audio cutouts but i do have some handshake issues on every initial boot. That's about my only issue and could be hdmi cable related.
I meant to note, Dolby surround doesn't seem to do as good of a job at centering vocals from 2 channel content to the center speaker.
Surrounds feel used a lot more on the anthem vs emotiva. I feel I get a broader sound image and an overall more enjoyable experience
I also get hdmi switching problems at boot. I've tested a variety HDMI cables and it made no difference.
@@robg8963 fortunately I just swap inputs back and forth without having to restart the unit so it's not been a huge blocker or annoyance for me
Does it ever boot up and not have any audio signal? That’s been happening to me at times. I have to shut it down and reboot to fix it
@@BrentWood-yv6cl can't say I've experienced that. I do get a random pink screen once in awhile when using the shield but everything seems to be resolved by switching inputs back and forth. Thankfully it switched inputs 10x faster than my emotiva so I don't really complain
I don't think comparing to the MarantzAV10 which is at a higher tier and higher specification level is a fair comparison. The AV10 competes with the Anthem AVM90. The AVM70 probably compares with the Marantz AV7706
Great review Youthman. I’m still working to build up to the Onkyo RZ50 AVR which was recently replaced by the RZ70 lol.
Stellar product , i have had it for 2yrs bought as future proofing for my 5.2 system which has now grown to a 7.2.4 system. Not looking to do anything except maybe make upgrade to 7.2.6 in a year .
Maybe some company can put out a universal remote that does that!
Still running my old Marantz 8015! Runs as good as the say it was pulled in. NEVER had an issue. I looked my self at Anthem and a few others. It seem like alot of people was having alot of handshake issues, and technical issue. I'm also glad to see yours worked out all right for your testing. I've decided to hold off to the next gen. If my Marantz makes it that far 🤞. I really want Trinnov 😂
The 8015 is fantastic
Unfortunately it seems all of these smaller brand processors have hiccups. More options, more problems. Eventually you get what you want but they are not plug and play like marantz or recievers. I love my rmc1l but it runs like an old car.
Glad you like the AVM70! I'm hoping I can help you with the intermittent audio issue. I have the Anthem MRX740 8K and I was having the exact same issue with my PlayStation 5. The audio would cut out every 30 seconds or so and immediately come back. It ended up being a firmware issue. Once I updated the firmware I never had the issue again! The firmware update process takes two steps on the Anthems. First you either use the Web interface or the app and download the new firmware update, which basically sends it to the unit but you still have to manually install it. Next manually use your remote on the AVM70 and scroll to the update section and tell it to apply or install the update. Hopefully this fixes your issue!
Thanks Brent. It says I'm on the current version - 2.3.213
@@Youthman some folks online are also saying they had to completely reset their strato player and that also seems to help it. Hope it all works out for you man!
I’ll check with Kaleidescape to see about resetting the Strato C.
My Anthem began having an issue this week and wanted to point out that Anthems customer service was amazing. My unit began to not pick up any audio signals when first powered up. The only remedy was to immediately power it off and then on again, and then I would have audio. I did some troubleshooting with Anthem and they decided the unit needed to be replaced. They were super easy to work with and they stand behind their product.
AVM70 8k simply sounds amazing! Great video Michael. Looking fwd to your review of the NZ800. Cheers
Thank you Drew.
I love my MRX1140, but will not be purchasing another Anthem product due to their false advertising during launch (no Roon and no DTS:x pro despite being advertised as available on the website when the product was launched). it’s a shame because it’s a good product, but if you can’t trust the brand then that’s that 🤷🏾♂️
Good stuff. VERY glad I grabbed an AVM70 for my tri-powered Presonus actives before Anthem whacked up the price with unnecessary 8K nonsense.
Wonderful review! I have owned the AVM 70 for about 4 years now (not the 8k) and the channel separation is incredible. I will never go back to a receiver again. Thanks to your comparison between AVR and processor video I took the risk. I am glad I did. Love the sound I have now.
Let me ask you. If run all your hdmi's to the tv and earc to the avm70 does let the tv do the video processing and the processor handle the sound? Meaning at that point there is no need to upgrade to the 8k units?
@@charlesking678 Great question! My understanding is the TV would be handling just the video switching side and the processor would be handling the dedicated audio. I do not own anything 8k or any content (if there is any) so the 4k version of this processor works just fine for me. Not sure if this answers your question or not.
This line of AVM/MRX rocks - I could never go back to Denon for Atmos, it was clear without even running ARC. Then ARC is addictive. I haven’t heard full dirac it was out of my price range when I got MRX1140 4K.
ARC and eARC are super flakey. I see zero reason to run everything into your atV. Am AVR or Processor’s will do a much better job with audio processing and video switching than a TV will.
@@charlesking678 you only need 8K thing if you do 4K120 gaming form PS5 or Xbox or high end PC. Otherwise save a bunch and find a 4K model if you can find one or maybe even used!
Nice review, i agree with your negative point where the reference level in the Anthem is -10db, i wish Anthem fixes this but they won't as all their users are fan boys & will defend Anthem for whatever negatives are there too. I got the MRX1140 since 2 years now.. Even the Sweep tones during ARC are freaking loud & can damage speakers i feel, it's around 90db+
Again when i mention this in forums/groups i get backlashed..
Yup. I've also found people in the Anthem AVM threads are intolerant of any criticisms, and like to blame the user if problems can't be resolved.
@@robg8963 the fan boys on avsforum ?
Truth is, there are fanboy for just about every brand
Great review Youthman. How did the sound compare to the Marantz 7706?
I own the 7705
See his response just above your comment. He says he heard no difference between the two.
Had the same issue with the audio drop outs with amazon cube 4k. Swapped from 5m hdmi 2.1 cable to 3m cable to tv and 1.5m cable to the cube and that resolved the issue.
Did I miss something? I thought you already purchased this product.
Nope, this was sent to me for review from Audio Advice. I still have my Marantz AV7706 sitting off in the corner of my room.
@@Youthmanyou did have it waiting for a review a long time, maybe that’s what this comment meant
Had mine for 2 years now. Absolutely love it. Still annoyed that they haven't added DTS X Pro likely said they would.
Other than that and the poor hdmi control / switching (compared to a denon) it is a perfect beast.
Hi,from your Experience ,is there a drastic sound changes in performance in Anthem Av 70 when compared to Marantz Av 7706. what all changes have you experienced ?
Marantz is rock solid, zero bugs, easy to setup but limited in many respects.
Anthem sometimes will lose audio when using Kaleidescape. Their app crashes a lot. Anthem gives you MUCH more flexibility in calibration, configuration, virtual inputs etc.
Both sound great but Anthem took more work to dial in my bass.
@Youthman thanks for your reply....so now am using Marantz Av 7706 So its worth to change on to Anthem Av 70 8k processor...and in sound I can feel the difference as well?...So it will be right choice,pls advice!!!
@Audioenthusatic as I shared in my review, the avium 70 offers a lot more customization, but it also requires a higher learning curve. It really depends on if you’re willing to learn how to utilize the tools within it. It’s not automatic and hand holding like Audyssey.
We wanted to hear your thoughts on channel separation
Thanks for reviewing the Anthem 8K. I am torn between denon 8500 and going the separate route with Anthem AVM70. I have an Outlaw 5000 which I can use with Denon 8500 preamp mode or Anthem AVM70 if needed.
Is the sound difference that noticeable between the Denon vs Anthem AVM70?
Noticeable? Ha ha its a night and day difference especially with balanced connections.
Balanced connections actually do not improve the sound unless you have a hum from RCA connections. You do get a 3dB gain with XLR, but room correction will level match all of your speakers.
I know purist won’t recommend it but you can also try Super Sub Fronts mode - Gene from AH also loved it. This would keep the L&R full range while still doing bass manage for that punch you in the face bass.
Sounds like the hdmi input has a short in it, my Denon center preout has a short in it so I’m not able to use the preout on it. I just bumped up the center channel since it’s not running to an external amp.
To me, the question at the moment is: AVM70 or AVM90? If AVM90, it brings another question: AVM90 or Marantz AV10? I have 4 subs - but is it really worth the jump to the 90 or AV10? Youthman, based on your tests, what do you think?
Honestly, it’s difficult for me to say because I have no experience with the AV 90 or the AV 10. I have a patron that switch from the anthem to the AV10 and he loves it. Rock solid performance.
4k price tag. I am happy with my denon processor.
And you should be! Denon makes fantastic products.
Great review question what set up did you change to get the subwoofers where you wanted them
I know I had to adjust the bass boost. It was way too anemic in the lower frequencies.
Raise the deep bass boost and the room gain. Also ignore when ARC tells you that subs needs to be trimmed down on the back of the sub amp. That personally woke my sub up. I just watched the new Twister 4k disk and thought my living rooms was about to collapse. It sounded amazing.
That sounds awesome. Thanks for the info, guys
@@BrentWood-yv6cl thanks for that advice im going to try that. love my mrx 1140 but for the amount of subs i have the bass is a bit light
@@aaronrandolph261 let us know how it works out bud! I’m sure it will be a night and day difference.
As much as I would like to upgrade my processor, SR6012, it's hard to justify in my room and budget. I really like the performance of my Marantz. I would consider, maybe one day upgrading for an improvement to Audessy like Dirac but even then will take a hit on the budget. Just not convinced of the return is worth it.
If your SR6012 does everything you need it to do, there's zero reason to upgrade. I just saved you a ton of money. :)
Wait your review never really reviews the sound output just the app really and some outputs...hardly a review. Again being critical here but you have done a lot better.
Maybe you missed the part where I said “Each channel is precise and detailed and provides a very smooth and immersive experience in my home theater.
In addition to movies, concert movies sound fantastic as well.
While listening to Sting’s concert on Kaleidescape, the drums are tight and punchy.
Vocals are up front and clear and crowd sounds authentic and really places you in the audience.”
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I remember when you had the Marantz 7705 in way back when. Did you notice a change in sound quality between the 7705 and the 7706? Or was the hdmi the only change from the 7705?
I didn’t notice any difference in sound from AV7705 to AV7706.
@@Youthmanvery helpful info thanks.
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Click and hold is a limitation of the mobile device, not the app.
I can’t do it on my PC either.
Curious, I've had my anthem AVM 70 for just over a year now. My son and I decided to hook up his PS5 while he's on college break to try out the new NCAA football. I noticed in your video you had a PS5 input. When we went to change the refresh rate to 120 for 4k, it said it wasn't supported. I have a Epson LS12000 which supports the refresh rate and hdmi 2.1. Any ideas if this is a settings issue I need to adjust?
Is your HDMI cable 2.1? I know Marantz has a setting you have to enable called Extended to unlock 120Hz refresh rate. I’m not sure about Anthem.
@@Youthman thanks for the quick response. Yes all cables are hdmi 2.1
I’m getting the hdmi audio cut out during steaming movies as well, I thought it was my internet
Have you tried with different sources? It only seems to happen when I’m using Kaleidescape.
@@Youthmanit happens when using my shield pro streaming apps, I can’t remember if it has happened using my hard drive through the shield but certainly while streaming through the shield
Hmmm.. can we expect a follow up video discussing your impressions of ARC vs. Audyssey in more detail?that exciting video with your friend comparing the 8015 to the 7706, I’ve watched like 3 times, on my 8015 no less lol.
Since publishing that video, I've learned that our audible memory isn't nearly as great as we think it is. Derek and I shared our honest experience. Even though we both did not think we would hear a difference, we felt we did. Was that due to Audyssey calibrating differently (as we know room correction can vary greatly from each calibration)? Was it bias telling us we heard a difference (since we were aware of what changed in the system)? I honestly do not know the answer.
To do it effectively, I would need some type of switcher so I could switch between each processor within a fraction of a second. I do not currently have that ability.
I can say I absolutely enjoy my AV7706 and I also absolutely love the sound from the Anthem AVM70. It would be fun if I had a way of fast switching and could do a blind A/B test between the two.
@@Youthman regarding “rerunning Audyssey”, there’s no need for that if two processors have the same version of Audyssey and channel configuration capabilities. Just upload the same Audyssey file from the app or MultEQ X to both units and the exact same room corrections will be applied to both. Too late for that now on the 8015 v 7706 but just wanted to dispel the myth about different Audyssey calibrations. It’s true two runs will yield different results because their error band is big, but you don’t need to do two different runs for two different units unless they are different versions of Audyssey or different channel configurations. In which case, what exactly are you comparing then?
What I’m saying is we did not do that. I ran Audyssey on both of them so that could generate a difference in what we heard between the two units.
@@Youthman ya and I’m saying you should not have run Audyssey that second time. You should have used the same calibration file for both units.
It’s ok, it’s long gone now but for future use, when comparing Sonic differences between AVR’s or PrePros that both use the same calibration, just run it once, configure all units the same, and upload that one calibration file to all units. Now you’ve removed “different Audyssey runs” from the equation.
Never had the app close or dropouts. Sort of odd that you are seeing that. I don't have the 8k though just the 4k. You can save a ton finding those on closeouts.
The app should be the same regardless of what model you have. The audio dropouts could be a number of issues. Others have shared. They have had similar issues with theirs. They had to restart the Kaleidescape completely.
@@Youthman I guess I have not been in the app all that long. I've never seen many issues with it when setting up inputs. I've used it a little bit for volume and other things but mostly not in it. Had the Arcam avr 20 and the app was far worse. It closed all the time even in the middle of things.
nice vid of the avm 70 - would you ever do one on the avm 90 its supposed to be better than the 70 and closer to a trinnov attitude 16 but not quite. 🤑🤑😄
I currently don’t have plans to review the AVM90.
My AVM 708K is still in my closet because it seems very complicated and very different from my AVM 60. I’m just a little intimidated with the set up.
Take the dive man!! Lots of good videos on this line and it’s worth it!
The AVM70 is pretty intuitive. ARC setup has a learning curve but there are definitely plenty of help on RUclips.
@@Youthman I got in touch with someone who suggested I just get it in to my system and don't worry about th ARC for a couple of. months - just live with it and take it from there . . . That is probably what I am going to do. Thanks for your comment.
Nice review. 👍
Thank you
I was a little disappointed with this review. It was more a review of the app, and not comprehensive enough or in depth enough on the unit itself. I dont want to sound negative , as i enjoy your videos, but im just being honest mike
I appreciate the feedbacks None of my reviews will please everyone since we all are looking for something different and what might be important to one person is trivial to another. What specifically would you have liked me to have covered more?
The reason I spent so much time with the app is to share the incredible amount of flexibility that you have with ARC Genesis. You don’t get that with Audyssey.
Sound comparisons to other units in particular more in depth for music and movies comparisons. Connections which is best rca/ xlr...I thought the audio drop out bug was fixed years ago. Any other issues..thanks
There are lots of reviews out there but yours is relevant because it's 2024..I'm in the market for a 70 or 90...but we're getting closer to Anthems 5 year cycle so could new processor be a year or 2 away?
Which sting concert did you mention
Live at the Olympia Paris
@@Youthman have you done a arc with mini or just arc on its own
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It doesn't even have Auro-3D so meh?
AURO-3D is what’s meh. It never got off the ground.
Unfortunately it seems all of these smaller brand processors have hiccups. More options, more problems. Eventually you get what you want but they are not plug and play like marantz or recievers. I love my rmc1l but it runs like an old car.