If God Doesn't Need Us, Why Are We Here?
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Why do we "have" to love God? It seems very self-centered of God to demand our love. But is it?
Today Fr. Mike opens up the first sentence of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and helps us to understand more fully why God, who was never lonely in Heaven, chose to freely create us to be in relationship with Him.
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Fascinating timing . During my rosary this morning it occurred to me, or perhaps the Holy Spirit inspired the thought, “why is God going through all this trouble? He could easily say this life is your gift from me but ultimately you guys are way too much of a hassle to save so you get 70-80 years and poof, you’re gone” and so I meditated on the indescribable love He has for us. Especially in giving up His Son so that we may have eternal life.
Couldn't agree more David. I don't pray 🙏 enough. I'm trying to hear the holy Spirit speak to me but I get signs like prophesy. How do I hear the H S father? I'm listening
**Log Between Pastor John and Pastor Christ on Catholic Christianity**
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**Pastor John:** Good evening, Pastor Christ. It's always a blessing to fellowship with a brother in the Lord. Today, I wanted to discuss something that has been heavy on my heart-Catholicism. I believe the Roman Catholic Church has led many astray from the truth of the Gospel.
**Pastor Christ:** Good evening, Pastor John. I agree, the Catholic Church has adopted many practices that are contrary to Scripture. Their doctrines have introduced traditions and teachings that obscure the simplicity of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Let’s start by addressing the role of tradition in the Catholic Church. In Mark 7:13, Jesus said, *“Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.”* The Catholic Church elevates its traditions to the level of Scripture, which nullifies the Word of God.
**Pastor John:** Absolutely. And let’s not forget about the veneration of Mary and the saints, which has no biblical foundation. The Bible is clear in 1 Timothy 2:5, *“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”* Yet, Catholics are taught to pray to Mary and the saints as if they were mediators. This is a direct contradiction of the Bible, which teaches that Jesus is our only mediator.
**Pastor Christ:** That’s right, Pastor John. The Catholic doctrine of the Immaculate Conception, which claims that Mary was born without sin, is also unscriptural. Romans 3:23 states, *“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.”* This means that every human, including Mary, was born with a sinful nature. To claim otherwise is to deny the truth of Scripture.
**Pastor John:** Another concerning issue is the Catholic practice of confessing sins to a priest. The Bible clearly teaches in 1 John 1:9, *“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”* Confession should be made directly to God, not to a human intermediary. The idea that a priest has the power to absolve sins is a man-made doctrine, not a biblical one.
**Pastor Christ:** Exactly, and the concept of transubstantiation-where the bread and wine are believed to literally become the body and blood of Christ-is another issue. Jesus said in John 6:63, *“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”* He was clearly speaking spiritually, not literally. Yet, the Catholic Church has turned this into a ritual that borders on idolatry.
**Pastor John:** Yes, and speaking of idolatry, the use of images and statues in worship is another grievous error. The Second Commandment explicitly forbids this in Exodus 20:4-5, *“Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.”* Despite this clear command, the Catholic Church encourages the veneration of statues, which is a form of idolatry.
**Pastor Christ:** That’s a crucial point, Pastor John. The Catholic Church’s addition of the Apocrypha to the Bible is also problematic. The Apocryphal books were never recognized as Scripture by the early church, and they contain teachings that contradict the rest of the Bible. For example, 2 Maccabees 12:45 speaks of praying for the dead, which is a practice not supported by Scripture. Ecclesiastes 9:5 clearly states, *“For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.”* Praying for the dead is futile and unbiblical.
**Pastor John:** Absolutely. Another serious issue is the doctrine of purgatory, which suggests that there is a temporary place of purification after death. This doctrine undermines the finished work of Christ on the cross. Hebrews 9:27 tells us, *“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.”* There is no second chance after death, and the idea of purgatory is not found anywhere in Scripture.
**Pastor Christ:** Right. And let’s not forget the Catholic Church’s teaching on salvation. They promote a works-based salvation, teaching that sacraments and good works are necessary for salvation. Ephesians 2:8-9 clearly contradicts this by saying, *“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”* Salvation is by grace alone through faith in Christ alone, not by any works or religious rituals.
**Pastor John:** That’s the core issue, isn’t it? The Catholic Church has replaced the simplicity of the Gospel with a complex system of works and rituals that detract from the sufficiency of Christ’s sacrifice. Galatians 1:8 gives us a stern warning: *“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”* The Gospel is simple, but the Catholic Church has added to it, leading many away from the truth.
**Pastor Christ:** Amen, Pastor John. It’s important that we remain steadfast in proclaiming the truth of the Gospel as it is revealed in Scripture, without the addition of man-made traditions. As Jesus said in John 8:32, *“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”* It’s only by adhering to the truth of God’s Word that we can experience the true freedom that Christ offers.
**Pastor John:** Absolutely, Pastor Christ. May we continue to preach the unadulterated Gospel of Jesus Christ and lead others away from the errors of Catholicism and towards the truth of God’s Word.
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This conversation reflects the concerns and interpretations of some Protestant Christians regarding Catholic doctrines. It is important to approach such topics with sensitivity and a desire for constructive dialogue.
@@GobacktoJesuschrist love to see online apologists really starting to get a feel for chatgpt
@@daviddabrowski01 do you worship Jesus christ alone
@@daviddabrowski01 what did you mean by during my Rosary
He doesn't need us, but He wants us... ✝📿🌹 I need Him and want Him... 🙏🤍
I think if we are suspicious of The Lord wanting us to love Him, it might be because we are used to being taken advantage of by others. Maybe we can't believe in God's pure Love for us, with no strings attached. The more I learn about The Lord, and our faith, the more I find it easy to love God. God Bless. Claire.
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Revelation 4 KJV
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Its just like two parents bringing a kid into this world. All They want is to give love to this kid and give life to this kid, out of complete love. They want to share this amazing experience and love. So just like that, God wants to share and experience love.
I'd say there is selfish reasons that two people would want kids too.
I'm thinking of the dad or mom that basically wants a miniature version of themselves in their kids, neglecting their personal identity and gifts from God.
But i know what you mean. God bless.
Parent bring children into the world,
Goats bring kids.
Big difference...
@@lcunningham1776 really reaching to criticize someone
Not really. “Kids” to describe humans sounds crass and dismissive.
Except we don’t torture our children for eternity if they disobey. Kind of a big distinction
God may not NEED us, but He clearly wants us. We may not be necessary, but we are important - God didn't just create us for His glory but also made us for our sake, so we're worth creating, even if not necessary.
I can’t wait to tell Jesus face to face I love Him more than sunshine.
Jesus is not god ❤
@@ManarHamza-gx4sy He literally is though
I had lost my faith completely this year, then today have been searching what is the purpose of life, came across this video Father and decided I’m coming back to God, I’m giving Him my heart ❤️
My mother was listening to Bible In A Year while washing dishes. I came in the kitchen and dished up some food. She said, "I think you'll need to wash your own dishes when you're done." I jokingly said, "Oh you think so, huh?" In the background, Father Mike said, "I don't think so. I don't think so." And we both started laughing.
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"Made for the good, the true and the beautiful..." Amen. That's why sin leads to unhappiness and torment.
I once dated a Satanist, he went on and on how God was the ultimate narcissist. In glad you made this video. Because of my interactions with that person, I turned to God.
@zilla5749 how so?
“Why should I be faithful to you if you’re not faithful to me?”
Because you’ll deprive yourself of the experience of being faithful.
"For you to experience your relationship with God, you must realize that you have come from a place of reality to establish that reality in a place where it has been forgotten and denied. This is your purpose. God has given you Knowledge, your spiritual power, to accomplish this task. To say it in a different way, you have come from your Ancient Home to a place where you are away from Home in order to establish your Ancient Home here."
The New Message from God » Relationships and Higher Purpose » Your Most Primary Relationship
Thanks for sharing!
Relationships and Higher Purpose... Isn't that a book title that resonates with everyone?
why not god himself did that , why he wants us to do it , if he is all powerful. don't say that we will get joy and love .
@@kunalkumbhar7262 As far as I understand the teachings of the New Message from God, it says that the physical manifestation of life, this universe in which we live, was created as a place for those who wanted to experience a reality apart from God. But when God created this physical reality, he left us a Way back to God, through the deeper spiritual mind within us called Knowledge. This Knowledge is our connection to everything, including God. So, it is up to us to bring back God into this reality where God seems to be missing. And we do this through Knowledge. The core of every religion's purpose is to bring us back to this deeper reality within ourselves, or back to God if you wish. And by doing that, we become a conduit through which God can enter into this reality.
Anyways, I suggest reading the books. They are much better in explaining this than I am. I'm just a beginning student. Peace!
So we are the people who wanted to experience human life , so after going towards god we will get the experience . But what about the people who doesnt get to god , they will be traped in human life ,whom just wanted to take experience .
and the question is not why he created universe , as you answered.
why created us (before we wanted to get experience of reality)?
Your answer should be we are the part of god .universe is god
The true the Good and the Beautiful sounds like a Christian daytime drama😊
Your right God doesn't need us but he made so much beauty and yummy food and other nice people and cute fuzzy animals lovely flowers and oceans he wanted to share it with us
God does not need us, but He loves us so much! And because we love Him, we worship and serve Him. To do this will bring us the greatest joy and peace…
Thank you Father Mike!
God asks us; he doesn’t demand. And we each have the choice of saying “no.”
He forced us into existence without our asking. They say life is a gift, but I never accepted this gift freely. Now I am cursed to suffer on Earth and risk eternal torment if I slip up.
@@dawidkupiec5876* sorry brother for sure you are in depression at this moment and I totally understand...
* However how can you feel being forced if you haven't come to existence yet? I guess your thought may have originated from the negative things you are currently experiencing here on earth...
* This is the reason why we need God through Jesus, to align our path so we can have a peaceful life appreciating God's creation. The Bible is mankind's "User Manual" check it out so you can have rest:
Matthew 11:28-29 ESV
[28] Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. [29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Proverbs 21:16 ESV
[16] One who wanders from the way of good sense will rest in the assembly of the dead.
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 NIV
[13] Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind. [14] For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
It will always be so amazing how God is eternal. Completely outside humans' concept of a beginning and end.
The Disneyland analogy made me chuckle. I worked there, i live close to there, but i have not set foot there in 10 years! 😂
It blows my mind how much we’re SO loved, i cannot fathom all this trouble for us- But I thank you, Lord!
I love this. Yes he's everything Good!! Happiness Love and Joy!! Who wouldn't want to be here!! And yes it's a place of freedom and peace knowing we are in his most loving presence of our Lord and Savior!! ✝️❤❤❤
Ty Father Mike, over the weekend waiting in the pew to receive confession your video played on accident on another person's phone, waiting to go into the confessional. Wow. So you were there at the sacrament in Milford CT this past Saturday. Amen 🙏💗
This reality your experiencing is a school, everything you experience here the joy the pain the suffering, you agreed with god to go through before he gave you the gift of being here, it’s to learn and raise your consciousness, you are not separate from god, you are PART of god, a minute speck of the ONE, love your fellow man
God wants us to be happy. He knows only loving Him will make us happy. So he wants us to love him in order for us to be happy. So simple yet so profound. And freeing.
Thank God for loving us wanting us to have more than we can dream of, hope for, and imagine.
Isn't it amazing how people constantly choose what is bad for them and makes them unhappy? Ultimately when the answer is so simple! Somehow those of us who are blessed enough to understand get this, and it's so sad to see those who don't understand. Because it's so easy to be cynical and so hard to be trusting, but that is exactly what will make us the most happy. We humans are certainly complicated, aren't we?
Definitely I will choose to cling on God no matter what.
The Parable of the Prodigal Son is so revealing of the Father's overflowing heart of love for His children...both the wayward child, and the dutiful child. (Luke 15:11-32)
Thank you Fr. Mike! I needed to hear this today.
Yay! A new Fr Mike video!😎
Thank you Father.
Fr. thank you 😇. the more I listen to your explanations on these questions posed, the more grateful I am to God for his love. I admire your enthusiasm every time a question is posed and you address it by providing simple explanations for all to understand. Your analogies and explanations bring me back to what you said in one session of the CIY that " everything about God is mystery". It will take a lifetime for one to gradually elucidate that mystery and still be unable to completely uncover it until we see him face to face. And " oh what a day that would be". Thanks always for these short videos in which you take time to address these questions. God bless you.
What a philosophical title! The great philosophers have been asking since Ancient Greece!
Wonderful explanation, Father Mike! I was raised Lutheran but I fell away for a number of years and I can't say I'm 100% Lutheran anymore. What that has done is make me more appreciative of other Christian perspectives. Maybe I'll attend a Mass one of these weekends. My grandfather is a retired Lutheran pastor. Him and my grandmother would attend other Christian services in their area to see how they worship our Triune God. Much love and respect, God bless ❤
Just reading the title i'll like to answer, because God, wants someone to love. That's our purpose and when we think about it it's amazing! You were created just to be love!
For the good pleasure of his will
I had this question in mind to the point that I was losing my faith, I couldn't find an answer that satisfied me until I stumbled upon this video. I can't thank you enough🙏🏻❤️
Very well said!
Father, how do you ALWAYS answer the biggest doubts that occur in my faith almost as soon as they occur? Like, HOW?? It's not like I've ever even personally asked you anything!
I've been looking for Fr. Mike today. Watching a lot about politics and really needing to get grounded again in God.
Gad is a lie my friend. Politics is not.
I'm extremely struggling with my faith in God's love for me right now, I felt like it's not right to question God, that I should just keep believing even with so much doubt inside my heart and mind. But knowing that He created us because He wants to SHARE the overflowing love in Him and not because of any other reasons made me cry but this time, with so much relief and made me feel closer to Him ❤❤
You the man!
God bless 🙌
God is such a love that it is given and fulfilled in the holy trinity, and then this love is so great that it exploded and created us, that it pours out on each of us, and in order to exist, to have existence, we must choose good, because then we choose God.God bless us all and may the Name of God be blessed on the gift of our priests..greetings to the small but holy land of Croatia
Because God is a mystery!💫🌹
Growing up, we had the Baltimore Catechism with the same question. God made us to show forth his power and give us His happiness, more or less. Works for me.
Thank you for this video,Father Mike!!!! God Bless!!!!
I do struggle with this from time to time. I’m sure it’s my own arrogance!
Revelation 4 KJV
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Thanks!!! Ive wondered this very thing.
🙏🙏🙏Thank you
thank you so much for this
Amen
How you can do this, your campus ministry and the CIY all at the same time is just👏🏾
Thanks Fr. Mike for always being real.
Thank you Fr Mike..it's so in line with the Cathecism teaching. God bless you.
Thank you Father Mike
Even God needs purpose...and companionship..
God is so vast in his being he needs infinite Verity.....and love...to make sure it's true affection he gave us freedom to choose...
This has been such an issue that's kept me from desiring to fully give my heart to God. Thank you so much for answering this question 💕
Pray for us Servant of God Michelle Duppong 🙏🌹🙏✨🕊️
❤ beautiful! Love to you all brothers and sisters ❤
God loved us first!
"Loving God" means to OBEY God 🌿 It's that simple...
As a parent, don’t we want our children to have their own life, but still want respect, kindness, love, and thoughtfulness from our children? Aren’t we hurt when they ignore us and not show love.
A personal theory of mine is God mainly created man for love as he wanted friends and family. But he didn't want love instantly like with the Angels.
Struggled with "Is God a Narcissist?" for a long time before returning to faith. Wonderful explanation.
Beautiful!! God bless 🙏
this was really good and eye opening!
The Holy Spirit is God's Love. The First Love that loved us into being
Love always needs someone to bestow love upon...
Who says God doesn't need us.
Satan is a narcissist.
He made us to give to us. Creation and love is His essence. We over-complicate the mystery of God with our fallen human nature.
I have never heard of Fr. Mike. IDK if he is honorable and if I should watch his video. Fr. Mike?
Behold, this is my 1st video to watch Fr. Mike, …. LOVE his presentation, his message & sensitive address. Thankfully I selected “play”‼️ One video from Fr. Mike and I want to hear more. 😊
I enjoy all your videos, information, your "bloopers!" I'm always intrigued by what am I going to seeing here on this video today there's always a good laughter and there's always good pondering Thank you for your time Thank you for your passion
Thanks for this video. So spot on.
As a Protestant I believed God's primary purpose for man was to praise Him but now as I am Catholic I see God made us in His divinity. Sharing in God's divinity is something Protestants are profoundly against as they think we are a form of Mormonism in this area. Catholics do take praise and worship strictly meeting in Spirit and truth but it's not the sole reason He fashioned us. It is only by His overwhelming love for us that He shares His divinity.
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Thank you for your videos!!!
Word.
Needed to hear this❤
Struggling with the concept of God and His love for us.
I got confused (and still am😅) on some parts of the Old Testament when God said He did so and so for His Name sake or for His Glory. Also read an article that said His primary purpose for creating us was for His Name (only second is love).
I know He's not a narcissist, I know He loves me and I love Him but I'm struggling after reading those things
Oh how interesting this thought is… I’ve never thought of Gods desire for us loving him to be anything but completely understandable. We are a reflection in our own human relationships, we desire to be loved and have close authentic loving relationships with others and especially with those we love the most. I love you God, thank you so much for your gift of life and the opportunity to know you and experience the most profound and pure relationship of love between any beings possible. I hope to continue to grow more Godly every day and share this. Amen.
Now I understand the calling to have a family and children. Just like the way God created us out of love. To share it because it's worth it.
No it’s because God is out of control.
The force of Love is a force of Creation. That is the nature of Love. If there was always nothing, there would always be nothing. If there was a source of eternal uncreated uncaused love, than that love would always create. Love creates, nothing doesn't create, and hate destroys.
Love has nothing to do with evolution my friend. Love is just a series of chemicals released by the brain. Your flowery words are amusing but meaningless in the greater scope of life. Good luck.
Fr. Mike, you have blessed my life with your insights. I have just started reading the catechism and this was one of the questions on my mind. Thank you so much for all you do
God works through us.
All God wants is for us to love Him enough to live for Him by following His Commandments, Church, Sacraments and Teaching. He wants us to surrender our will to His will.
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About your wrinkled shirt, I will say to you what the Holy Spirit said to Samuel before anointing king David, “For man sees the outward appearance, but the Lord sees the heart.” ❤. As your talking about why we were created, I keep hearing, “Let my people go, so that they may worship me”…this is what the Lord told Moses to say to Pharaoh. We were created to worship our Lord! Everything we do, may it be done as an act of worship unto the Lord! Whether you’re pushing a broom, or performing heart surgery, it’s all an act of worship! This also brings us back to the beginning. Before they sinned, Adam and Eve used to walk naked and unashamed in the coolness of the Garden of Eden with the Lord! Can you imagine!!They were in daily fellowship, in this intimate place with the Lord! So beautiful! We were created for fellowship, worship and an intimate relationship with our God! They were given dominion over the land and animals and told to multiply. That was their task, or their “work” to do while they weren’t spending personal time with the Lord. The Hebrew word for “work” is Avoda. It means, “work, worship and service” Isn’t that incredible?
I wonder about this ALL the time. If he were human, he would definitely be a narcissist and sometimes I get kinda squicky bc I can't keep my categories straight in my head and confuse what's appropriate for humans and what's appropriate for God. Tbh, I'm not a good enough theologian, and I'm too fresh outta atheism to really understand why its ok for God to want to be continuously praised and worshiped and loved but bad in the worst kinda toxic way for humans to want that. I guess I should watch the video. :)
If it was that important he would come and tell me himself
Amen 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿❤❤❤❤
You just cleared my doubts fr. Thank you.
The shirt looks fine! :)
Greetings Father Mike,
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God doesn't have our heart. God has everything except our heart. We have nothing except our heart. If we give our heart to God we have everything and He has our heart. Doesn't seem like a balanced exchange: we get God and Heaven, He gets our little broken Heart. What a truly great and generous God He is!
And how interesting it is to consider that, to God, those hearts of ours are a wonderful treasure to possess! Worth it to Him!
I have really really really struggled with this one. As a bitter, fallen-away Christian, both the Old and New Testaments have repelled me with this upsetting notion: why is God so mad at us all the time? My perspective has been He gets so frustrated with his creation again and again (Jesus is OFTEN condescending to his disciples -- the garden of Gethsemane comes to mind and how they were so tired, they couldn't stay awake, and he kept speaking down to them about the most human thing imaginable; fatigue!) and then seems to scare us back into loving him. But this brief homily, Father Mike, has helped me see it from another vantage point. Maybe God is not bellowing, "Love Me". Maybe it's a different tone, with a different intention altogether.
Thank u.could you pls explain holi Trinity
I'm having logic issues...if God is perfectly sufficient in himself, why was he not sufficient enough to share his love with?
I think it’s mostly due to lack of knowledge from our side, just like certain events in the Old Testament is hard to grasp or imagine.
Women have an easier path to understand it but, being bound to somebody (in many ways can it happen, by duty, emotionally, by law etc)
One becomes free by being bound to God. Due not being in need to be bound to others (more importantly to ideologies, false religions etc)
God wants us to live in the truth and be free after all as far as I understand.
Jordan B Peterson has a certain take on it (he made a biblical series on RUclips) if Father Mike could see or do some collaboration on it or talk would been great! :)
I love this topic father thanks. Another question please: Does God support domestic violence to some extend?
Ok so God made us out of an outpouring of love, but this doesn't get at the heart of the question: is God a narcissist. If God made us purely to love us and us love Him, why the need for worship? Say 2 parents have a child. Out of pure love. The parents don't demand the child worship them.
I believe in God. I didn't always. But things happened and now I do believe. But I still don't understand why we all: angels & people all worship God. I understand believing and loving. But worship is hard to understand. Hence the question "Is God a narcissist?".
But i have heard near death experiences that say when they meet Jesus or I AM/God face to face, they immediately fall on their face, fall down in worship. I know it is right. I just don't fully understand why.
Interesting. But the pre-existing of souls is rejected by the church, so perhaps a more tldr answer is “because God wishes to see us as his creation, but leaves our choices to ourselves”
The question is that Does God knows the future or he knows the possibility of the future??