Andreas's father was absolutely correct about his son, he tried anything to save his passengers and crew, but the plane was out of fuel and at that point all hope is lost. Of course that man wasn't a coward, he was a hero who gave his all before an inevitable death. Shame on those who thought ill of him, but obviously the investigators had to look for any possible reasons for the crash.
@MaydayAirDisaster There are 24 seasons of this show. Why do we keep getting things reposted from earlier seasons up to 12, but then no further? I'm running out of episodes to watch!
They have bottles of oxygen in there that can last for 20+hrs on most airplanes. The pilots didn’t realize what was going on, they didn’t realize that they depressurized before it was too late.
They have extra bottles of oxygen but like the last guy said in the Leerjet accident, you only have 15 seconds to react before your brain begins to be depleted of oxygen and you pass out. They didn't know it was decompression so they didn't think to get the oxygen.
Oxygen generators for passengers only produce about 10 mins of oxygen, maybe less. It is enough if the pilots react and make an emergency descent to lower altitudes where the masks aren't necessary.
“Master Caution” is an ambiguous warning that provides no meaningful data. And why did Andreas keep using portable oxygen for almost 2 hours, surrounded by dead passengers, before going to the cockpit? Very odd. My guess is that he had to breach the cockpit door, which likely was locked.
I remember watching a different documentary about the Greece airlines flight in the first portion of this video and it had me crazy paranoid about this exact, same scenario happening to me on the next time I went on a flight which was a flight from Houston, Texas to Wilmington, North Carolina. Thankfully, I have made that flight and other flights out of Texas many times and no issues at all with these anxious thoughts.
I can't fault the engineer. There has to be a checklist so that the switch is verified to be set to AUTO. A switch can easily be bumped or moved inadvertently. Thats what checklists are for and setting up for proper configuration They were told to check it, but the Captain was preoccupied
All commercial planes ahould be able to be flown remotely if fhe onboard pilots are out of commission for whatever reasons. We are flying drones already, the capabilities are there, just put them together.
4:15 I know you shouldn't disturb pilots when they are focusing on an emergency, but does anyone know if policies are updated where flight attendants contact the pilots if the plane doesn't descend shortly after oxygen masks are deployed - or updated and less ambiguous warnings in the cockpit for this situation?
I’d like to know if the engineer who left the pressurization dial in manual faced any consequences? Also, do engineers have checklists to follow or are they allowed to just go messing with settings and expect the pilots to catch anything they didn’t reset properly
They both have checklists, but the responsibility has to be with the pilots, I’m 1000% sure that, it is in the checklists before takeoff as there is a procedure for using it manually
The official report concluded the maintenance procedure the engineer was following did not specify what position the mode switch was to be left at after the test. In other words, the engineer did not 'forget' to return the switch to auto.
No mention of the remains of the human element. Why not? It is actual truth whi h seems to be left out everytime.. it is the biggest part is it not? These shows piss me off.
Andreas's father was absolutely correct about his son, he tried anything to save his passengers and crew, but the plane was out of fuel and at that point all hope is lost. Of course that man wasn't a coward, he was a hero who gave his all before an inevitable death. Shame on those who thought ill of him, but obviously the investigators had to look for any possible reasons for the crash.
God bless you Andrais. You went down a hero. There is no dought what you saved that day.
Andreas was a hero. He tried to land the plane but they said there was nothing he could do. The plane ran out of fuel so he could not land the plane.
Those Helios pilots missed a basic item on the preflight checklist. Cabin pressurization to auto... No excuse.
Thats something I can't see why it's NOT auto already!
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Maint crew on the ground set it to manual for a pressurization check for certification.
I love this show ! it’s so intense & interesting . I always learn a lot
@MaydayAirDisaster There are 24 seasons of this show. Why do we keep getting things reposted from earlier seasons up to 12, but then no further? I'm running out of episodes to watch!
17:35 whoa thats the 20 year old whos mistake caused flight 611 to disappear
Less cryptic warnings and error messages would help
Why didn’t oxygen masks deploy in the cockpit? Makes no sense.
They have bottles of oxygen in there that can last for 20+hrs on most airplanes. The pilots didn’t realize what was going on, they didn’t realize that they depressurized before it was too late.
@@davidajayi1207thought you got like 15 minutes??
They have extra bottles of oxygen but like the last guy said in the Leerjet accident, you only have 15 seconds to react before your brain begins to be depleted of oxygen and you pass out.
They didn't know it was decompression so they didn't think to get the oxygen.
Oxygen generators for passengers only produce about 10 mins of oxygen, maybe less. It is enough if the pilots react and make an emergency descent to lower altitudes where the masks aren't necessary.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 the passengers have 12 minutes. The pilots have oxygen bottles which lasts 20+hrs each
My prayers for the families ❤️
Great new video! 😮
“Master Caution” is an ambiguous warning that provides no meaningful data. And why did Andreas keep using portable oxygen for almost 2 hours, surrounded by dead passengers, before going to the cockpit? Very odd. My guess is that he had to breach the cockpit door, which likely was locked.
The full episode explains his actions in better detail, if I remember.
Full episode explains that the cockpit door was locked and he couldn’t get in at first.
In the last video they heard the pressurization warning alarm but not cockpit discussion reading of the list etc. this doesn’t make sense either.
I first heard about this story when i was 12 and traumatized me
I remember watching a different documentary about the Greece airlines flight in the first portion of this video and it had me crazy paranoid about this exact, same scenario happening to me on the next time I went on a flight which was a flight from Houston, Texas to Wilmington, North Carolina. Thankfully, I have made that flight and other flights out of Texas many times and no issues at all with these anxious thoughts.
in all hold-button to declare emergency flight computers, they should add an entry to auto-set cruising altitude to 5000feet
I’ve seen this before!!
nice repair job.. it lasted for decades..
How does a plane run out of fuel?
I can't fault the engineer. There has to be a checklist so that the switch is verified to be set to AUTO. A switch can easily be bumped or moved inadvertently. Thats what checklists are for and setting up for proper configuration
They were told to check it, but the Captain was preoccupied
All commercial planes ahould be able to be flown remotely if fhe onboard pilots are out of commission for whatever reasons. We are flying drones already, the capabilities are there, just put them together.
Nobody else like the video it's the best plane 747
4:15 I know you shouldn't disturb pilots when they are focusing on an emergency, but does anyone know if policies are updated where flight attendants contact the pilots if the plane doesn't descend shortly after oxygen masks are deployed - or updated and less ambiguous warnings in the cockpit for this situation?
"Five thoo thoo"..."Five thoo thoo"
I’d like to know if the engineer who left the pressurization dial in manual faced any consequences? Also, do engineers have checklists to follow or are they allowed to just go messing with settings and expect the pilots to catch anything they didn’t reset properly
They both have checklists, but the responsibility has to be with the pilots, I’m 1000% sure that, it is in the checklists before takeoff as there is a procedure for using it manually
@@davidajayi1207yes, is in checklist. But is so rarely set to manual so when the pilot checked, he saw what he expected to see.
The official report concluded the maintenance procedure the engineer was following did not specify what position the mode switch was to be left at after the test. In other words, the engineer did not 'forget' to return the switch to auto.
China Airlines Flight 611 wasn't a ghost plane.
Yes they lost communication but it was because the plane ripped apart just like JAL 123. How could this happen again?
first thing i said when i saw them slumped is hypoxia
At lease Andries tried salute 🫡
NEVER get on a boeing..trueeeessst me. its still lil bit safer then driving that far. (most the time) so it feels lately
I'd still would rather take the car than a plane.
Particularly with all the 737 max issues.. Never again if I can help it.
I know if John Nance is flying my plane. Everything is going to be alright..
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what boeing employ did this .lol
Don’t like reruns
Youd think they would check both options...
No mention of the remains of the human element. Why not? It is actual truth whi h seems to be left out everytime.. it is the biggest part is it not? These shows piss me off.