Installing Outdoor Stairs on a Lake-Front Home
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2013
- www.amazon.com/shop/gpackard This video will show you how to install permanent steps on a hill leading from your house to a lake.
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Great video. Like how you explain the little things. (Why use a washer etc) may seem obvious to some but most people watch these videos because they are learning.
ty thanks for commenting
Excellent work! I’m going to build this style step in my backyard leading to my patio. I appreciate your thorough yet simple explainer video. Thanks for sharing!
youre very welcome my friend
Fantastic ! Very detailed and easy to follow. I will be building a small staircase to my "she-shed". Thank you!
You’re the man! I have been wanting to do this for years and just happened to come across your awesome video today. I like the way you explain things and to use limestone instead of concrete is the way to go for my project. Thanks and God Bless You Brother!
Bill, bless you too brother !
Your RUclips video "Installing outdoor stairs on a lake front home" was so well done! The easy to follow step by step instructions gave us the confidence to give it a try! Although the slope was small & the stairs are large we did a pretty good job today framing everything out. We watched your video at least 30x .... a lag bolt ? What the heck is that? We made a list, we pre-drilled holes & leveled everything! We couldn't have done it without you!
thank you very much for this video! I will sound silly when saying this but I will say it anyway "it has given me confidence to do this to a client, who at first had no idea how to start". The client's house is also on the shore of a lake.
Most useful video that I have found for my project. Thank you.
Your very welcome
You're*
What a great tutorial. We are going to attempt this (on a much smaller scale) tomorrow. Thanks for the great info!
+ncylee you are very welcome and good luck
I cannot thank you guys enough for this simple and perfect video solution for my gal and l. 🙌🏼
your very welcome man
Grey hair and physical work is a clear sign of strength, endurance, knowledge, trust and earned respect.
thanks i think
don't forget to subscribe to my channel i have hundreds of helpful videos
Thank you Thank you THANK YOU!!!
Awesome job. Very detailed and easy to understand. My husband and I will start ours this weekend. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Good luck!! don't forget to subscribe to my channel as i have Hundreds of videos to help you do it yourself projects
Thank you so much for the video. I'm going to attempt our first project of the summer using this video.
Thanks for the kind words, i'm glad to help
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. This video was very useful for me.
Glad it was helpful!
im a girl and i have an outdoor stair project which i started yesterday. this video made so much sense to me and gives me confidence that I really can get the job done right. thanks a million
you are very welcome. I hope it helps you out and good luck !
just found your vid. it is so great. I am going to do exactly what you are doing to my son's new house. But I am going to use creek rock instead of just crushed stone. The length and the width are exactly what I had planned. Never seen it like you made it. But I really love it. Thank you very much.
+Tanker Man your very welcome and thanks for commenting.
You keep making me money George! Thanks for all of the videos!
+Cody Greenwell
that's what i came to you tube to do my friend , i'm glad !
Nice video. Thanks for posting!
+PaulyC8879
your very welcome.
Looks great! This is exactly what we need at the camp I work at. I think we may build this exact same thing. Thanks!
+TheOutdoordude
your very welcome, and thanks for commenting.
Perfect video. Exactly what I needed to see.
thanks man i;m glad it helped you.
zeromiles2empty
so happy i found this video!!!! thanks very informative!
well i'm happy you found my channel !
Very nice steps. Good to watch this. Gives me some hope to try this myself.
Go for it!
man that's nice. no one has ever bothered to teach me how to do that. thanks for yet another great video
Midgaoutdoor, you are very welcome my friend
Great instructions! Thanks for the video
your welcome.
Thank you so much for making this video step my step!
Yes we can get the ground treated ones here, but I've heard others say the same thing, keep looking around, someone must have them. Good Luck
George
Hey, enjoyed your videos...saw where your last video upload was back in Feb, you need to start uploading more videos man =)
OTC Glad you enjoyed them! I have several ready to upload, and I will upload as soon and I get a little break. Our season had kicked in and I run out of time. Any one who does landscape knows the long hours, it takes when you own your own business....
OTC IV'E BEEN VERY BUSY,LATELY BUT I DO HAVE 2 NEW ONES I'LL BE SENDING SOON
G Packard I understand, I forgot about the long hours that come with your business.
THANK YOU, I feel like this is achievable!
Makes perfect sense in every detail you explained! Not like a lot of these videos where there is lots of talking but no useful info! Or talk talk talk and then speed up the main project! I will compact with sand then lay a layer of crushed landscape rocks.
Giver hell Jason and good luck !
Great work bud, keep it up. 👍👍👍
thanks brother
Incredible! Great job.....
mark, thank you brother.
Great video, I followed the same plan and it turned out perfect. Although I used pea gravel instead of sand.
I think you'll find that by using the pea gravel, 1. it will end up all over the place, and 2. pea gravel is like walking on ball bearings, it's always moving. By the way, we used limestone screenings, not sand, it packs harder, unlike sand which is also like walking on ball bearings.
What did you finish the surface with?
Excellent work guys. My professional advise would be to add used motor oil inside the forms to make the wood last longer and keep away all insects. Thank you and have and excellent day.
Great idea
this was awesome.. thank you :)
your very welcome
Very useful and professional, thank you sir!
You are welcome!
Great DYI video, this is perfect for my application...... One thing though u state the risers are 8x8...just double checking they look like 4x6 if not would 4x6 work in this application. Thanks so much
the steps are 8x8 , 4x6 would work but not last as long or have as much strength.
This is exactly the design I was looking for!! Learned a lot from your install video! Can you provide some dimensions on the lumber you used? New subscriber. Thanks again!
did you use galvanized lag bolts?
His must be the happiest woman. He loves a good pounding. Good job guys 💪
Great video thanks from France
Thank you too!
Thank you. I have a 10' run to figure out. Should be easy, just need to figure it out....but your stairs are exactly what I was thinking (wood frame, but infilled with dirt/gravel).
don't use dirt or anything that will hold moisture. it will rot the wood much quicker
Using pressure treated wood.
that's good but it still will rot, so whatever you can do to slow the process the better. good luck !
I've done a lot of steps mostly out of stone but this is thinking out side the box looks awesome never would I have tho of doing them this way
Noe, thanks
Great Video. Thanks ! I started doing my steps, and wish I had seen this first. Difference being I cant go straight down. Obstacles are killing me
+Mike G
lol. i know, it seems that's all there are, are obstacles. lol
great video!! If I can’t get the digger into the back, what do you suggest so we don’t have to hand dig?
Really helpful. I was going to ask a local builder to make some concrete steps but this method looks quicker and a lot less messy. A big thank you from Dennis in Pembrokeshire, Wales.
your very welcome Dennis from Wales
This is so far the most useful video I’ve found for my step project. Thanks for sharing this. I do have one question. How do you determine where to set your top step and bottom step so it will match up with the natural landing?
I have that exact question
Great Video! Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
This is nice man
thank you
From 10 years ago not bad. Today of course we have timberlocs. Better than lag bolts
It's beautiful. Another video said that you "must" use gravel, otherwise it washes out. What are the tradeoffs between using the two materials? I can see that sand looks nicer and is easier on the feet.
sand is easier but will wash out easier and will have to be replaced sooner. Gravel is fine if you're not barefoot and will last a lot longer.
Wow ! Awesome!
thanks bro
very good tutorial
thanks man
Thank you this helps me a lot!
Glad it helped!
G Packard I have a question though. I wanted to know What is the fill that you put in between the boards to tamp down? Also I have a bunch of washed gravel. Could I use that as the fill? Where I live is all sand.
Great job...
thank you.
If installing on a slope that already has erosion issues (so much water!) Would you add any kind of drainage? Compacted gravel in the steps? Very helpful video- thank you!!
well you could use concrete i suppose. Regular crushed rock will be like walking on ball bearings or marbles, but i've seen it done.
Hello, Fantastic video ty for taking the time to film and post! I hope it works as the best business card going. Question for you--I don't have much love of pressure treated--at all. If I did not want to use PT wood...is there something else that I could use...10 years of guaranteed stairs...I'd like to think they'd be there for 25-30 years. Cheers and thanks again.
they now use a fiber type material that they clain is much better however it is extremely much more expensive.
Thanks for the great video! For steps that aren't going to be used by people (used by a dog) would it be reasonable to just use sections of a pressure treated 2x6 instead of the larger 6x6 for the riser?
sure you could
Thanks George, I have been struggling on the best way to build these type of steps. I have about at 14 foot run down hill and would like to fill in the step with limestone and cover with patio stones that will come flush with the wooden step. Would I need to alter the wooden step to do this? Also did you use the support rods on both sides?, and how long are the lag bolts? Thx again
Don McLaren you don't need to alter the steps to do that. rods are on both sides (on the insides)
I believe the lags were 8" ?
I thank you so much for this video. We rent and our backyard has a quite a slope. I wanted to do something affordable that my husband and I could do ourselves. It was so easy to understand and follow along. I really appreciate this, thank you.
Good job buddy, this is an awesome video. Exactly what I was looking for.
Any chance you could update the video description with the size of materials that you used?
ALL WOOD WAS TREATED,RUNNERS WERE 12",,8X8 TIMBER STEPS,3' RE BAR BOLTS,LIMESTONE SCREENINGS IN BETWEEN STEPS, HOPE THIS HELPS.
Yes sir. Thanks again.
What size beams are you using 4x6??
I'm building these steps as we speak...but I have one question: When you made the angle with the 2 X 12's how did you secure the seam between the two runners? Thanks and an answer ASAP will help me continue. Great Video. Thanks.
Regina Zakrajsek yes, we lag bolted them.
Great video, thanks! It has been 10 years now. I'm curious how these steps have held up? Are there any improvements you'd recommend? Do the limestone screenings allow for drainage? What are the dimensions of the boards you used for the steps themselves? I'm in the planning stages of building steps down to a creek.
Steps held up great. Limestone does not drain well rather the pitch drains off the water.2x8 I believe
I would love to find out more detailed info on how you did the joining of the runners. How did you figure out the angle etc...
Cameron Schwartz you have got to pay for that information.
Did you dig the middle out or just the sides
Excellent video. An inexpensive solution compared to what’s out there on YT. Btw, can you provide some measurement on the thickness and width of the board you’re using? Thanks a lot.
Outside boards I believe or 2 by 8.
Great video and thank you. I have 20 feet, just finished 10 feet and looks great. I have another 10 feet but with an angle just like you have it at 10:50 of the video , what did you use to hold 2x12 to together ?
Sorry, the question was already asked and answered: Lag bolted them
6"
' lag bolts
It's good that you didn't use concrete but soil and wood, it's more natural this way plus concrete reminds me the city streets.
George,
I have a 25 foot slope in my backyard and want to build stairs like you show in this video. The slope is pretty constant but the earth below the grass is full of large rocks that will be hard/expensive to dig out. Can we lay the side rails above ground and use the rebar to hold the rails and stairs in place, almost laying them on top of the ground ? I saw one video that also showed rebar driven though a few of the steps to assure the entire system does not clip down the hill. Can we do the entire system laying on the actual ground ?
Thanks,Allen
It can be done but you will still have to anchor it as often as ( the rocks will allow ) by using rebar. also note that if you can keep them off the ground (even an inch) this will add years to the life of your wood.
Great video. After you fastened the 2x12 with the 8x8 steps did you take out the rebar that was originally holding the 2x12 in place. Thank you
yes we did
I have a similar hill but part of it is ROCK face so I can not dig trenches for the 2Xs ! Iam wondering can Ijust float the whole thing on top of the hill side with no ditches and the once it it is all framed in use rocks and motor and sand to lock it all in? Would that work?
Dougie, without actually being there, i cannot tell you . I do wish you good luck with your project though !
hard work , hint ? take soil fabric felt kind and attach it to riser inside lay on the ground to attach to next riser, help in wash out and more ...
KEN THANKS FOR SHARING.
really a series of stepped terraces, mini-sized
What the run tho? I feel like climbing upstairs will always be with the same foot up ahead first cause of the length of the run ?
Good video. Thank you kindly
changes with the terrain bro
Thanks G liked your video
your welcome my brother
Thanks George, exactly what I needed to see. As far as vertical anchoring of the runners, are you relying on the nails and re bars? I am thinking that may not support the rails from sinking in level - or is the grip of the nails on re bars tight enough?
Similar thoughts. However, we have to look at the entire structure since the limestone backfill creates enough distributed force towards rails to disable movements in any direction.
yeah between them and the limestone and outside dirt fill.
thanks for sharing
Thank you for sharing! Do you have a list of tools and materials you used for this project? Thanks!
No, sorry
Thanks man!!!
your welcome my friend.
Just wondering long would you expect the treated wood to last on the ground? Thanks.
+ruski024
they say 20 years but i would make a safe bet at 7 ?
Great video, looking to do this beside my house leading to the backyard/basement. Was wondering if grass and weeds grow up through the limestone screening?
over time sure like anything,
Thank you George from Campford Ontario, I,m will be doing about a 60 foot run. The material being put in between the steps is lime stone yes or no. Are you using 6x6 or 8x8 and 2x12 for the sides. Are you using 1/2 " or 3/4 rebar. and is it best to keep the 2x12s off the ground. Thanks once again George, great video. Jeff Schmalz
limestone = yes.8x8 for the sidesas well as 2x12. 1"rebar. always best to keep them up off the ground.
You are awesome
well thanks
Excellent video. Can you add bricks instead of the limestone. If so, do you put a small layer of the limestone or blue stone and then lay the bricks on top? Once in cover with sand and sweep it into the cracks?
Yes you can use pavers.If you do, you'll still need to use some type of a sturdy base material.and it will need to be compacted ( or the pavers will settle over time ) and leveled to accommodate the pavers or. you will also need a brick saw to cut the pavers unless you make your steps the appropriate distance to accommodate the pavers. Then use treated joint sand not regular joint sand because the ants will remove the sand and the bricks will shift.
Hi there. So you really don't cut the treads out of the ground/earth. Looks like you are creating the stair/tread mainly and then filling it in and compacting it down. I am looking to do something like this at our cottage. It is about 60 ft down a hill (maybe 30% grade) and I would like to add safe stairs to the water. Looks like this is doable with some 2x10 or 12's x 16's on each side then run a 4x4 across and add a "filling" and compact it down. Thanks for this.
You're very welcome.
awesome
+l Wroubel
THANKS MAN !
Are the limestone screenings underneath the steps as well then as they have a gap? How do you compact it under the wooden steps? Thank you in advance.
it is not
G Packard thank you for the reply, what is directly under the steps? Do you just pour the limestone in then compact the amount you can see, also sorry for all the questions but here in the UK I'm finding it hard to find limestone screening, can you recommend any alternatives?
sure, use whatever landscapers use for under paver patios in your area. products will differ from town to town as to there availability
G Packard thank you very much for the video and the replies, helped alot.
sean your welcome
I will build this for my mum
atta boy, mum ?
Yes,she had problem with the slopes to her chickens barn for many years
How can I contact you for more questions?
What did you fill with? Is there anything else i could use if i cant find what you used.
sure, common stuff like red granite, limestone screenings ect. contact your local material landscape place and ask them what landscapers are using for underneath pavers, that would be pack hard.
How long is the run of the step the distance between both steps from one step to the other
I believe 2' if i remember right
Do you just dig out for the runners? Or also the middle of the pads?
both
If i wanted to back fill with gravel for a different look would i need to add a baselayer of limestone first?
It depends on what your calling gravel. does it decompose ? if so don't use it.if not and it will pack well ( get very hard ) then go ahead.
What would you do if the angle was steeper?
i would increase the steps accordingly.The average persons stride is approx. 3', take that and divide it by the total length of the stairs. hope this helps.
that is nice thank u for this video DAVeteran
2x12rinner and what is the size of the support beam? Thank you.
8x8 i believe
how did it hold up over the rainy season?
well actually
How much money would it cost to make a 7-step stone and concrete staircase in front of the house?
With the lumber prices today quite a bit
cool! but how long will this last until it rots away?
+Matthias
no different than any other wood steps.
of course. question was more like "how long thil wood steps on the soil start rotting" :)
Стільки роботи а дошки згниють за два роки. В чому суть? Де бетон чи камінь?
Will wood rot soon when buried in ground?
no, notif it's treated
What's the angle of the runners on the sides?
the angle changes with the terrain.
Does anyone know roughly how much it would cost to pay someone to do this?
thousands
Nice work! Say, how many beers did it take to get it finished? lol