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  • Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
  • Yup, it's that time again. Tier list time! I place all the current characters in Zenless Zone Zero into a tier list evaluating every character for their end game potential. This is for version 1.0.
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    0:00 | Content and Disclaimers
    1:09 | Anby
    2:39 | Koleda
    3:55 | Lycaon
    4:41 | Bear
    5:53 | Nicole
    7:09 | Soukaku
    8:12 | Lucy
    9:07 | Rina
    9:55 | Piper
    11:12 | Grace
    11:56 | Billy
    12:56 | Corin
    13:51 | Anton
    14:18 | Nekomata
    14:58 | Soldier 11
    15:33 | Ellen
    16:17 | Zhu Yuan
    16:28 | Final Tier List
    #zenlesszonezero #zzz

Комментарии • 736

  • @daktonly
    @daktonly Месяц назад +2183

    MY BOY BILLY GOT HIS OWN RANK LETSSSSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

    • @Abremoch
      @Abremoch Месяц назад +5

      lol

    • @connorpickup5272
      @connorpickup5272 Месяц назад +103

      Billy is the best character

    • @SuilongV3
      @SuilongV3 Месяц назад +134

      Billy has been the most fun playing tbh

    • @AkameshS
      @AkameshS Месяц назад +13

      ​@@SuilongV3 now that's a damn lie

    • @khoelindawati6716
      @khoelindawati6716 Месяц назад +41

      ​@@AkameshSimma be honest. Kinda true but the dash basic attack is funny energy

  • @zendao7967
    @zendao7967 Месяц назад +1101

    At this early stage of the game, it's more "use who you managed to get" than "use who you want".

    • @ThyFloorestFloor
      @ThyFloorestFloor Месяц назад +92

      This, build with what you have for now, and be in the lookout for the archetype/play style that better suits you so you can start saving up to build that team.

    • @tabithal2977
      @tabithal2977 Месяц назад +9

      Unless you rerolled for your favorite...... 💀

    • @arian_motta
      @arian_motta Месяц назад +21

      @@tabithal2977 I've actually done that. When I've reached 30 pulls I got Nekomata and shortly after Soldier 11. I didn't like any of those two while testing, so I've decided to start it all over with a new account. Now I got Lycaon and Soukaku. It's like my dream team !

    • @tabithal2977
      @tabithal2977 Месяц назад +3

      @arian_motta nice! I rerolled until I got nekomata, she's probably the only reason I'm playing zzz rn because hoyo hasn't made any other cat girls in genshin or star rail that aren't bad

    • @AnArtistInAVoid
      @AnArtistInAVoid Месяц назад +13

      @@tabithal2977who needs to reroll when you’re so lucky that you just get your two favorite standard s rank characters almost instantly.

  • @Gurgio
    @Gurgio Месяц назад +572

    12:10 Billy getting distracted by spraying and praying while a single trash mob ambushes him from behind is the most Billy thing

  • @CatzZz4
    @CatzZz4 Месяц назад +437

    I don't care if billy heals enemies im going to main him anyways 😭

    • @shachede6828
      @shachede6828 Месяц назад +10

      I didn’t know he heal enemies 😭

    • @hoppie4263
      @hoppie4263 Месяц назад +5

      He heals enimes?

    • @colinkirkpatrick5618
      @colinkirkpatrick5618 Месяц назад +85

      @@hoppie4263he doesn’t, they are saying even if he did they’d main him. He doesn’t so he is above their bar

    • @shachede6828
      @shachede6828 Месяц назад +1

      @@colinkirkpatrick5618 ohhh I see. I was afraid 😂

    • @lilypads3033
      @lilypads3033 Месяц назад +10

      ​@@colinkirkpatrick5618and the OP also used a joke where usually if a character is so weak in a game you can mock them by saying they're healing the enemies instead of hurting them

  • @Simptuber
    @Simptuber Месяц назад +560

    Bro is practicing his dad jokes with us

    • @Paradoxicallibility
      @Paradoxicallibility Месяц назад +37

      Well.. he IS a dad.

    • @Simptuber
      @Simptuber Месяц назад +27

      @@Paradoxicallibility that’s why i said that

    • @unknownincognito2425
      @unknownincognito2425 Месяц назад +11

      He's been doing that since genshin.

    • @Simptuber
      @Simptuber Месяц назад

      @@unknownincognito2425 And I haven't commented that until now. What's your point?

    • @unknownincognito2425
      @unknownincognito2425 Месяц назад +11

      @@Simptuber well... That is my point, he's been doing that for a while now. I don't know why you're being hostile, i was just saying what's on my mind, same thing as you did.

  • @nam6282
    @nam6282 Месяц назад +316

    ZZZ honestly doesn’t deserve the hate. Game is pretty fun so far

    • @lenon3579ify
      @lenon3579ify Месяц назад +36

      I haven't seen any hate on it so far 🤔
      I'm loving it, btw, and I don't really like futuristic gun-based settings in general. Combat here is just too good

    • @alexzeng9833
      @alexzeng9833 Месяц назад

      It's got 3.3 stars only in Google Play, but it's because of phone compatibility issues, literally all negative reviews are people not able to play, which is unfortunate but wuwa had a worse release and recovered easily, ZZZ will be fine ​@@lenon3579ify

    • @sylvyboi
      @sylvyboi Месяц назад +103

      ​@@lenon3579ify tbh ive seen plenty, but most of it is just hate for the sake of hating

    • @kleefirestar
      @kleefirestar Месяц назад +20

      People cry cause the combat isnt dmc tier apparently

    • @DrFrogglePhD
      @DrFrogglePhD Месяц назад +24

      @@sylvyboi It's because it's a Gacha game which naturally have a ceiling for quality. Any game with predatory monetary systems are purposely developed incorrectly to encourage you to spend money. Basically, it's meant to be frustrating. That's the opposite of good game design. They're all like this.

  • @ctrl_walker5105
    @ctrl_walker5105 Месяц назад +144

    Im so glad u cover ZZZ this game deserve so much love

    • @OkSear
      @OkSear Месяц назад +5

      nope

    • @sylvyboi
      @sylvyboi Месяц назад +26

      it literally does tho

    • @funnyanime368
      @funnyanime368 Месяц назад +9

      TRUEEE

    • @SolaireOfToast
      @SolaireOfToast Месяц назад +2

      This Game deserves fucking fixes. Like whut the fuck? Hoyoverse dropped all their development over the years and produced a game, as if this was their first one

    • @ayanokoji9608
      @ayanokoji9608 Месяц назад

      Unless you are playing on a phone 60 years behind the minimum specs, or you have a very specific situation, the game seems to function perfectly. ​@@SolaireOfToast

  • @iznel9083
    @iznel9083 Месяц назад +196

    Lucy Nekomata Piper is such a effective team with great synergy with Lucy applying Nekomata all the quick assists she wants and Piper giving Assault stacks to Nekomata

    • @dzonb2191
      @dzonb2191 Месяц назад

      Literally my team right now.. seeing Lucy playing her bat hitting her pigs is satisfying 😂

    • @yvindvego9404
      @yvindvego9404 Месяц назад +26

      so triple loli team rocks?

    • @marcusshane
      @marcusshane Месяц назад +34

      ​@@yvindvego9404 Neko isn't exactly 'loli' but I guess shortstack team?

    • @eliblake-hb3by
      @eliblake-hb3by Месяц назад

      @@yvindvego9404 Girl shut up.

    • @nicky4092
      @nicky4092 Месяц назад +1

      this is my 2nd team (1st is mono ice) and it works pretty well. Constant assault really fun to play

  • @kienmaple
    @kienmaple Месяц назад +18

    Did you look at Billy's ult and chain attacks? They have some of the highest multiplier in the game. His chain attacks are higher than Neko and Soldier 11. His ult fully buffed is the highest in the game by a mile. The way to play him is to stack chain attacks and burst during short buff windows like Nicole's massive 40% Def shred for 3.5 seconds and Rina's pen that lasts like 6 seconds. If anyone has played Honkai Impact 3rd before, you'd know that being able to do your damage in such a short burst is very valuable due to how short buff windows are.

    • @undeniablySomeGuy
      @undeniablySomeGuy Месяц назад +2

      now we wait for the "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING" videos 🤝

    • @b1kopi
      @b1kopi Месяц назад

      Yup, dont forget his team ability passive that giving add 50% for his ultimate stack 2x after his chain attack

  • @tenchi2075
    @tenchi2075 Месяц назад +88

    I lost 50/50 for Ellen and now running, Lycoan, Soukaku, and Corin as a temporary unit. Such a fun team that works really well together

    • @rudozawa
      @rudozawa Месяц назад +9

      The 1-2 punch of Lycaon/Soukaku is so, so strong. Allows you to just slap whatever DPS you want on the end of it and succeed.

    • @battlecubes4762
      @battlecubes4762 Месяц назад +20

      ​@@rudozawa
      Thats disregarding a lot of factors in play, and downplaying how well corrin can dish out damage.
      For example, billy wouldn't fit in this team. Sub optimal damage, no synergy.
      Anton wouldn't either. No shock starters, no faction bonus. Same with Soldier 11 and Nekomata, for both reasons again.
      Corin however fits perfectly. Faction bonus included, and she just needs a good stunner to really pop off. Soukaku is nice for the extra support, but if this was any other team, she wouldn't be giving her faction bonus.

    • @GeneralAlatussy
      @GeneralAlatussy Месяц назад +3

      sameeee, i'll just wait for my queen Miyabi

    • @FMA4EVERX3
      @FMA4EVERX3 Месяц назад

      Sammme 😂 my Lycaon is m2 now, Shokakou is m6 and Corin is m5... my best team right now ❤❤

  • @michaelferrell4869
    @michaelferrell4869 Месяц назад +78

    Corin will be an end game Goddess because of her crits, multipliers, and crit damage

    • @Geym1account-kj9cu
      @Geym1account-kj9cu Месяц назад +7

      YESSS and maining her, I realize that she can also be an anomaly and a stunner on top of being an attacker! Damn i love using her!!

    • @l0st1nv0id
      @l0st1nv0id Месяц назад +33

      Her damage is massive, the problem is she kinda needs enemy to stand still/be susceptible to hit stun. But she works veerry well with Lycaon, if you just use him to stun everyone and then swap to her to unload damage

    • @peacetea_life
      @peacetea_life Месяц назад +5

      Exactly, I have both Nekomata and Lycaon on the same team and every single time Corin comes out on top for damage

    • @springcat9083
      @springcat9083 Месяц назад +3

      Corin is what Herta is in HSR, used to be considered a B-tier character, now demolishes all the hardest content in game. Proudly maining both from day 1.

    • @soundplayground3742
      @soundplayground3742 Месяц назад +1

      Yes, I'm rockin' Corin, Nicole, and Anby right now; they mesh well together. But I might swap out Anby for Ellen (or Grace) once I acquire them.

  • @Xgil2Play
    @Xgil2Play Месяц назад +87

    S- Nicole, Anby, Billy
    A-
    B
    C-
    D-
    F-
    Dunno, don't have - every other character.

    • @NoWayToHell
      @NoWayToHell Месяц назад +10

      You are so right. With the synergies between them, you can create an S tier team with players that people think are bad 😂

    • @cyco7229
      @cyco7229 Месяц назад +3

      yep, gacha has not been very kind to me but fortunately I like the Cunning Hares a lot tbqh

    • @augustocelsobommweiler9083
      @augustocelsobommweiler9083 Месяц назад

      Let's be real, no master how well made the list is, the majority of us are stuck with only cunning hares characters

  • @peachy_cat
    @peachy_cat Месяц назад +71

    10:53 "For example, Nekomata benefits 🦆 assault is applied to the enemy"

  • @lanayuu
    @lanayuu Месяц назад +28

    Billy is reason why i started playing this game at the first place, that is actually sad(

    • @44MagnumNA
      @44MagnumNA Месяц назад +9

      I still use him on my teams, he's extremely fun. Makes me wish he was as good as Grace though lol

    • @Ariverfish
      @Ariverfish Месяц назад +3

      Just build him lmao. I literally main him and he's really strong as a secondary burst dps with Corin, and he even out damages her. I have built every single A rank in the game (except Soukaku) and they all are pretty strong.

  • @mordsven
    @mordsven Месяц назад +44

    Billy is that one character that you want to be fun to play and good at the same time, but it just doesn't happened

  • @dmonarch4668
    @dmonarch4668 Месяц назад +16

    8:00 with soukaku (and all characters actually) you don't have the wait for the whole animation to go through, you can press switch at the same time as her skill and you will switch while she will stay doing her banner thingy, enemies will keep targeting her too

    • @hellbounded2602
      @hellbounded2602 Месяц назад +1

      Sadly her buff transfer work only on quick assist (and chain) which requires her full animation to play.

  • @SirLexion
    @SirLexion Месяц назад +14

    I personally really enjoy Corin as attack. Saw shredding stunned enemies is very satisfying. I use her with Von for easy stuns and Rina to buff Corin’s pen ratio and she quite literally shreds. Since everyone got her for free she is definitely an automatic swap over Billy.

    • @gym4379
      @gym4379 Месяц назад +3

      She is carrying me so hard ngl

    • @NeocrimsonX
      @NeocrimsonX Месяц назад

      She has the bloodborne whirligig saw and that alone makes her amazing already.

  • @yourworstnightmare1950
    @yourworstnightmare1950 Месяц назад +30

    Corrin is a very underated character and me personally. It's all about keeping the enemy in place. And you don't actually need a stun char to pair with her.
    If you can keep the enemy still corrin can actually fill up the daze bar very , very quickly. The strongest team I've managed to test right now for her is corrin , piper , and Rina. Rinas off field can actually stun in itself and can help super fill the daze bar. Piper acts as a support DPS to corrin while also helping her fill phys anomaly which corrin can also do on her own very quickly. Piper just makes it faster while also focusing damage to corrin.
    If you know how to play corrin and utilize her kit to the best she comes to par with the other s rank agents to a certain degree.

    • @gym4379
      @gym4379 Месяц назад +3

      Corin is carrying me so far I can't actually believe it I got Lycaon so am using him as a stunner but corin is a gigachad

    • @yourworstnightmare1950
      @yourworstnightmare1950 Месяц назад

      @@gym4379 I know right ? But the best part is you don't need a stunner. That's why from all of my testing as stated her best comp is with Rina and Piper.

    • @gym4379
      @gym4379 Месяц назад

      @@yourworstnightmare1950 i don't have both of those two characters 😭so corin will be my Ellen placeholder until she comes home

    • @ok10469
      @ok10469 Месяц назад

      Corin and piper are good but rina is just boring and way too passive

  • @Luchamasterfit
    @Luchamasterfit Месяц назад +63

    I think the point of billy is to be a sort of sub dps. With is core passive buffing his ult damage by 100% making it get to like 8000% (imagine that with nicoles weapon and def shred granted it is an AoE) at the very last rank, his purpose may just be to swap in clear trash if its there stack that passive and swap to the actual DPS while also consuming the ults unless the main dps is sitting on a stronger one.
    Some bosses have flunkies that can really annoy the shit out of you or waste your time if you try to clear em so billy gives you back up. Likely running a double dps support team with your main DPS to the right of the support for the quick swaps.
    Its niche but I think he has potential.
    As for bear with koleda, his usefulness doesnt matter as he gives my girl a different ult animation. For teams you run it with the fire bat girl support. Koleda with Ben does enough damage from what I've seen once you factor in the Lucy's buffs and minions and his crit buff. Plus man she just perma stuns stuff if she is the main field hog.
    Reminder that bens crit buff transfers to the little boars through lucy's core passive.

    • @Keetoxx
      @Keetoxx Месяц назад +1

      very interesting 🤔

    • @DefensiveBalloons
      @DefensiveBalloons Месяц назад

      For me I been having a lot of fun with Ben, Koleda and Afton...idk how strong that team composition is, but it feels good enough.

  • @yunfi.630
    @yunfi.630 Месяц назад +3

    i'm very glad you factored in not just what the character provides to a team in a vacuum, but also how the existence of other character affects their placement too. thanks for the extra thought into your tierlists. really looking forward to how new characters will shake up the best characters right now.

  • @Ray-ix7ik
    @Ray-ix7ik Месяц назад +25

    Going here coz i couldn't decide which character to build 😢 (I love them all)

  • @darkraven5626
    @darkraven5626 Месяц назад +4

    What you said about tier list makers is very true lol. It's usually fun to listen to why they place characters in specific tiers, but at the same time they're not to be taken seriously.
    It's still, as you said, way too early to begin deciding who is good with who and who plays the best in specific settings since this game literally just came out mere days at the time of my comment and I'm still getting through the story myself.

  • @tomlong7619
    @tomlong7619 Месяц назад +10

    what am I doing here? watched the full video while didn't even play the game

  • @Zharque
    @Zharque Месяц назад +10

    Was lucky enough to get Soldier 11, saving up for Lucy in the shop, gonna hurt my pulls for Ellen but it is what it is.

    • @DivRaj_120
      @DivRaj_120 Месяц назад +2

      Oh, I would like to give 50% of my lucy luck to you as I already have her and am ok with late mindscapes, hope you get lucy quick, I also got soldier 11😂

  • @frustratedsquirrel
    @frustratedsquirrel Месяц назад +6

    Billy 'not hitting things' with his playstyle is an actual skill issue that shows you don't understand how to redirect his attack by moving in crouching fire stance...Does mastering it immediately make him a top-tier character? Not really, but it's not fair to list it as a negative if you aren't even playing the character properly.
    Billy's niche really is AoE support, but he can deal sustained single target damage as well, just not both at the same time. You would mainly want him on a team with Nekomata if you intend to build her around Assault proccing. So the team would look something like Neko > Billy > Piper (or Corin)
    Fundamentally disagree with Ben being ranked so low. He does a lot and his playstyle kind of trivializes a lot of the content because you only have to guard a single tick of damage in order to get the benefits of his special. Even on point, he has massive Aoe, burn anomaly buildup, decent damage and stun buildup. He's somewhat team-agnostic because everyone can benefit from crit rate and HP shield, but works really well with Soldier 11 or any other burn-inflicting unit.

  • @tamathemaid7171
    @tamathemaid7171 Месяц назад +4

    Ngl, Corin feels like she’s a stunner in an attacker’s skin. Her attacks in my experience stack daze so fast, especially with how many hit points they have. Add this with her fast decimal gain, she’s a really good sub dps that can be a ult battery and I look forward to people finding out she’s actually good in a month’s time.

    • @4..x
      @4..x Месяц назад

      tbh she really deals significant amounts of dmg, I play her along with lycaon/soukaku i even got neko’s sig for her game really wants me to main her and she slaps so hard, i found out that she also able to stagger enemies which is kinda interesting

    • @prstechnic1774
      @prstechnic1774 Месяц назад

      shes gonna be my next dps build so i can have a functional second team for shinyu defense.

  • @marioritter7014
    @marioritter7014 Месяц назад +17

    Personally I think tierlists are less valuable in this game, because team synergy and their ability to chain is way more important. Doesn't matter if you fill your team with S and A ranks, if they can't chain, the team will be much weaker. Relic/data disk set synergy matters as well.

  • @X1erra
    @X1erra Месяц назад +7

    Remember this is a very early game tier list; hyperinvest in your best attackers first. Ellen, and then possibly Corin, Anton, Billy, whoever can deal a ton of damage in the stun window is going to carry you. I don’t mean forget about everyone else though. Attackers should have 10 more levels and weapons than the rest after level 30

  • @spacecat278
    @spacecat278 Месяц назад +3

    I feel bad for Billy, I'm still gonna get around to building him someday when I get more resources just because of how cool his design is lol

  • @leonardomoneta6084
    @leonardomoneta6084 Месяц назад +49

    I am LOVING LOVING this game my god

    • @ohreally69
      @ohreally69 Месяц назад +4

      Combat is flashy but thats it,its boring for me so i couldn't even play after the first boss

    • @scarterrence
      @scarterrence Месяц назад +16

      ​@@ohreally69 was bro playing on 10 fps to drop the game so bad 😂😂😂

    • @ohreally69
      @ohreally69 Месяц назад +3

      @@scarterrence most of the fight is attack button mash,it even felt like just a long quick time sequence at some point

    • @setsuna7618
      @setsuna7618 Месяц назад +1

      @@ohreally69 I agree with you. The game has little to offer, it's basically a slightly better version of HI3 that got reskin to grab the fans' money lmfao.

    • @wall-ehasagun2723
      @wall-ehasagun2723 Месяц назад

      ​@@ohreally69 you should watch some videos about this game's combat. Its pretty deep.

  • @lockekosta9014
    @lockekosta9014 Месяц назад +60

    I don't understand why people make individual tier lists based on unit synergies. Just make a full team comp tier list instead then because your final product is just flawed off the rip otherwise since it isn't actually about the individual characters.

    • @setsuna7618
      @setsuna7618 Месяц назад +28

      agreed. all these T0 or 0.5 is so damn lame lmao. We played hoyo ass games enough to know tier list shouldnt be judged in this way.

    • @takimi_nada
      @takimi_nada Месяц назад +4

      These lists also get outdated very fast, literally as soon as any new character comes out. Maybe that's why they get made lol

    • @ruzgarozer8035
      @ruzgarozer8035 Месяц назад +9

      @@takimi_nadayeah… for example Lycaon is a very good unit but also favored because the current best (and only limited) dps in the game is Ellen which is an ice unit. Koleda’s or Ben’s value could increase if they release a fire dps for example. Or Rina with an electric one.

    • @Shine3rection
      @Shine3rection Месяц назад

      The ability to function on multiple teams though is an individual trait that should have weight in the discussion of how good a character is overall. If you take character X and they have an average DPS of 10k and can fit on 6 different teams to their full effect, but character Y has an average DPS of 12k, but can only work on 1 specific comp, then character X is a better character despite Y having a higher average DPS.

    • @ilangshot
      @ilangshot Месяц назад +2

      I get what you're saying, you want a tier list that is unbiased towards any good team comps, but thats not very realistic especially this early in the game. Doing it not based on synergies leads to issues as well.
      Imagine if he said Nicole is T0 or T0.5 because she is the ONLY ether buffer in the game, and her field time is very low, and she groups enemies. BUT that doesn't matter, because she doesn't have a good team right now.
      If someone skips ahead or just doesn't listen to the explanations and tries to build her right now, they're not gonna complete the later contents until Zhu Yuan is out.
      Personally, I like the tier lists that take a realistic approach, where it tells you this character is good in this point in time, because this character exists, hence raising their value.

  • @gazblackheart4596
    @gazblackheart4596 Месяц назад +6

    I guess I am lucky to have pulled lycoan but I really wanted nekomata as her very fast roguelike playstyle has a nice feel to it.

    • @Tonebaited123
      @Tonebaited123 Месяц назад +4

      Yeah, her dodge play-style feels really good and satisfying

    • @MrGoodra17
      @MrGoodra17 Месяц назад +2

      If I don't get her within 300 pulls I'm choosing her for sure

    • @ghexaier
      @ghexaier Месяц назад

      i thought she was very fun to play, but wasn't decided yet but the gacha decided everything for me. got her like in 40 pulls on standard. looking forward.

  • @feeblemind
    @feeblemind Месяц назад +1

    This was actually a good tierlist which is rare on RUclips. I wish Billy was better he's super fun to play. I also think corrin is being slept on. Neko probably T0 with a few dupes but team comp is lacking. Right now I'm easy clearing everything with soldier/ben/Lucy haven't had anything remotely challenging that team yet at level 40

  • @DivRaj_120
    @DivRaj_120 Месяц назад +2

    I actually think that we should rather focus on team performance in teir lists instead of ranking individual characters, make a team with whom so ever they synergize with and put that team up the list, this will give f2ps an idea to how good their current characters can be with a specific other character instead of searching through the tier list for a good character that doesnt have synergy or a bad character that has insane synergy.

  • @KarasuChipsz
    @KarasuChipsz Месяц назад +9

    ayo The GOAT Billy got his own tier lets goooo bois

  • @sanane5902
    @sanane5902 Месяц назад +12

    Let's all congrats Lycaon for being the only ice standard 5* that don't suck
    He's like a bronya in my opinion

    • @MapleYum
      @MapleYum Месяц назад +2

      He’s the only ice standard s rank…also there are other good characters. Try them out. Grace has been fun for me.

    • @noein9747
      @noein9747 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@MapleYummaybe he mean compared to other hoyo games

    • @vampiranya9939
      @vampiranya9939 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@MapleYumhe meant that in HSR and Genshin, ice standard 5* are... not so good.

    • @ratspew932
      @ratspew932 Месяц назад +2

      Gepard is still a decent unit esp if you don't have Aven, not broken but doesn't suck either. Partly because there's like 3 5* Preservation units in the game, but still.

    • @sanane5902
      @sanane5902 Месяц назад +1

      @@ratspew932 I was mainly talking about yanqing I should have been more clear you're right

  • @sponge563
    @sponge563 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you for this! Loving the game SO much

  • @tungdohoang8197
    @tungdohoang8197 Месяц назад +1

    i have fun with Billy so far, such a great character design and gameplay. Hopefully he will get more love in the future.

  • @user-dh1qj5lx5q
    @user-dh1qj5lx5q Месяц назад +2

    I love tier list videos so much. You should made a updated genshin tier list also. Yes, there are so many websites for tier lists but i wanna hear your opnion cuz it's gold for me

  • @TheUchihaCub
    @TheUchihaCub Месяц назад +2

    How serious is the endgame for Zero?
    Like do i actually need to build specifically or can i just do whatever?
    Cause im actually enjoying it a lot so far even though it’s so easy, and I wouldn’t mind paying more attention to team comp and builds if I had to.
    As of now I don’t see any reason to ever spend money, it’s really easy and there’s barely any characters.

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 Месяц назад +1

      Endgame one shots

    • @jct0010
      @jct0010 Месяц назад +1

      it's useless to think of endgame rn since the game literally just came out like 3 days ago.... You can see the endgame of geshin, honkai impact and star rail and judge for yourself

  • @bangbangtud
    @bangbangtud Месяц назад +1

    With Billy, I just spam dodge/slide attack to hit everything. Benefit is that I rarely got hit, and I can clear mobs easily.

  • @PMProut
    @PMProut Месяц назад +1

    I happened to pull Lycaon at 50 in the standard banner, and also Soukakou copies from the limited banner, and Corin is the dps of that team, with Lycaon engaging and breaking, then Soukakou grouping and freezing them, and Corin making ice sculptures off them
    I really like her multi attacking normals, it triggers the crit rate increase on hit buff so easily in hollow zero, and I get the execute so often when I need to waveclear

  • @ARDIZsq
    @ARDIZsq Месяц назад

    Reminder to everyone that tier lists don't matter. Use the characters you like the most and you'll get infinitely more enjoyment out of the game than if you were to constantly change the inevitably ever shifting meta.
    If you like a character's design or personality, use them. Don't worry about how good or bad people will tell you they are, because at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter. Trying to min-max everything constantly will only become more and more headache inducing, and you'll just burn yourself out on the game, and likely spend a ton of money in the process.

  • @wincity4090
    @wincity4090 Месяц назад +4

    Is it just the earlygame or I feel like there's a lot of aoe waves? Whenever I play theres always 3-4 enemies at the time so when I play single-target characrers4I always gets hit. Thats why Billy is my current main along with corin

  • @GuiltyKit
    @GuiltyKit Месяц назад

    I appreciate that this list recognizes what a tier list is. It's how characters stack up against the current state of the game.

  • @AltaMillia
    @AltaMillia Месяц назад

    Both me and my sister pulled the wolf man first, she loves him most of the standard characters so it’s nice to see he isn’t cold garbage. Corin aside, pretty much all my favourite designs/playstyles are seemingly great as of now, so that’s cool. Time to build Lucy and exclusively use her until a five star summoner releases.

  • @IANDURBECK
    @IANDURBECK Месяц назад

    Billy getting the Tartaglia on release treatment, he's gonna come back and show who's boss B)
    Fr tho, billy deserves to really be good, just cus he's such an epic character narratively

  • @ericdissing
    @ericdissing Месяц назад

    I used to play a game called Onmyoji Arena and I mained a character called Satori where her whole kit revolved around hitting baseballs and not missing and Lucy instantly became a fave of mine and I got lucky I pulled her all the way to 6 without spending too much.

  • @yavnrh
    @yavnrh Месяц назад +1

    Let's go! I've got Grace on my first account! 🥰

  • @kenchen704
    @kenchen704 Месяц назад +1

    My current favorite team is Anby, Nicole, and Neko. Anby breaks, straight into Nicole resistance shred, and then Neko shows up and kills everyone

  • @jordanmntungwa3311
    @jordanmntungwa3311 Месяц назад +1

    I got Rina on the 'standard' banner (I'm still learning the right terminology) and I got Anton, SOkaku, Lucy and Billy in a single ten pull on the event banner and I got piper on a single pull as well. there's so many. I have never won so much before in one summons session

  • @axhng
    @axhng Месяц назад

    6:13 that mona joke about nicole is so apt, especially when they are both voiced by the same chinese VA. haha

  • @attahmm2975
    @attahmm2975 Месяц назад +1

    YOOOO, so glad to see my girl Lucy on top spot
    I instantly fall in love with her the moment i saw her swinging bat and making home runs with the pigs XD

  • @tolafia6708
    @tolafia6708 Месяц назад

    I agree Billy Kid isn't the most powerful single target damage character, but he has something hidden going for him. He's fun.

  • @Kingbuilder27
    @Kingbuilder27 Месяц назад +2

    I think Ben's placement doesn't feel right atleast from my usage. Its true the need for sustain unites isn't high at the moment, his main usage from his shield being useful in Hollow Zero with shield buffs. But Ben being able to be ran without Koleda & rewarding good play by providing a crit rate buff to the entire team is very strong imo. Not to mention if you happen to get his W Engine, the damage he can output is actually pretty darn good, and will only get better with investment. On top of that his stun is alright for not being a stun unit himself. One last point is that in situations where it may be harder to dodge having the potential to reduce or negate damage entirely can very strong, while also not being hard to pull off. I can understand his placement but for me personally id rate him on the upper half of T1. Love the content keep it up!

  • @demiurge_n_dragons
    @demiurge_n_dragons Месяц назад +1

    Ben is more akin to Beidou imo. His hyper armored counters can deal decent damage if you time it right.

  • @cristopherandrade3668
    @cristopherandrade3668 Месяц назад +27

    I'll skip Ellen cuz I'm waiting for Miyabi. She's the only reason why I'm playing ZZZ in the 1st place.

    • @HakimJamil94
      @HakimJamil94 Месяц назад +1

      I wonder if they changed Miyabi's specialty and element. She looks like blue flame now.

    • @gDiscovery95
      @gDiscovery95 Месяц назад +2

      Then you'll be waiting for many months next banner is the pubsec girl.

    • @setsuna7618
      @setsuna7618 Месяц назад +2

      @@HakimJamil94 Already confirmed shes actually ice dps.

    • @JorjoGiovanna
      @JorjoGiovanna Месяц назад +2

      Same but you might have to wait for a while I remember saving up for Ayaka in Genshin cuz of the beta and she ended up releasing almost year after

    • @jamesjarrett5499
      @jamesjarrett5499 Месяц назад +6

      @@setsuna7618confirmed where? In old beta? Weird to release a couple ice limited characters at game debut.
      Her attacks were lightning, ice, or fire coded tbh. I hope they are lightning but either way, I want her

  • @Levin_125
    @Levin_125 Месяц назад +1

    I was maining Lycaon just cause I love him but it makes me happy to hear he’s rlly strong too lol

  • @NFYT
    @NFYT Месяц назад +1

    came here for soldier 11, hey, i want ellen so badly, but she's the coolest character imo over all of them, and i absolutely didn't knew you could time her attacks to always be fire hits, it adda another layer of skill which i love so much

    • @rayangelosalazar1563
      @rayangelosalazar1563 Месяц назад +1

      same honestly I wanted grace but I got soldier 11 and I thought she was poop but then well she's actually a decent fire damage dealer plus it's cool she can make her blade flame up with the right timing like a certain devil hunter named nero

    • @prstechnic1774
      @prstechnic1774 Месяц назад

      yea shes really cool, definitely the character with the highest skill cap

  • @IvanksMW
    @IvanksMW Месяц назад

    Piper with her unique W-Engine and some good physical Disks is pretty solid

  • @BorntoOrnn
    @BorntoOrnn Месяц назад

    I'd like to make a small addition for Soldier 11. The fact that you can get Fire Suppression on Soldier 11 for a limited time by triggering a Chain Attack with her, using her EX Skill or using her Ultimate is a godsend for people with shitty PCs like me, it's already hard enough to get the timing right when the game is running properly, imagine how difficult it gets when you can barely run it at 30 FPS.

  • @joey9424
    @joey9424 Месяц назад +2

    a video about zzz just before bedtime. Just what i needed to help me sleep, thank you.

  • @raptor1368
    @raptor1368 Месяц назад

    One thing to note is that the long attack animation may not be a bad thing, due to the nature of quick character switching, if timed correctly you could have two characters on the field dealing damage, but more testing and practice is needed to see if it is a viable strategy

  • @MascrisSensei
    @MascrisSensei Месяц назад

    I feel sorry for Corin. All you need is to make a situation where enemies are dazed and she can melt anybody

  • @crackedsandwich
    @crackedsandwich Месяц назад +1

    I have a mono physical team of nekomata, piper, and billy. It's really fun.

  • @ch.7785
    @ch.7785 Месяц назад +1

    i feel like ben is a high skill ceiling unit and belongs in 0.5 tbh. he has a stupid 5000% multiplier on his perfect counter followup lol. his shield also has a 16% free crit bonus (which in this game honestly is rare). if you pair him with koleda, they become a sort of very flexible, comfortable, all purpose team with good survivability, good damage (if you can perfect counter with ben constantly, and can stun the enemy 24/7.
    also a note, unlike in genshin, zzz has much more aggressive enemies with telegraphed movements and sound cues, his counter also has much more forgiving timing. if you like a counter playstyle, i think you'll like ben alot

    • @bukojoetheslapsoils8273
      @bukojoetheslapsoils8273 Месяц назад

      Very true. I get surprised a lot of times when he hits.

    • @prstechnic1774
      @prstechnic1774 Месяц назад

      well i got koleda today from standard... ima give those 2 a try.

  • @ReginaldSkulls
    @ReginaldSkulls Месяц назад +1

    I played for the first time yesterday and got Rina twice. I just want Ellen and Lycaon. 😭

    • @cyco7229
      @cyco7229 Месяц назад +1

      already got one Rina and I'm dreading getting another 😬Hoyo's desire sensor is evil

  • @JKalfis
    @JKalfis Месяц назад

    The game forced me to play Soldier 11 as my main and I love her.
    Standard Banner:
    First 50 pulls - Soldier 11
    Next 20 pulls - Her signature W-Engine
    Bangbo Banner:
    First 20 pulls - Double Rocketbo

  • @DEADSKULLZ31
    @DEADSKULLZ31 Месяц назад

    Corrin should be at least t1, her damage output against stunned enemies is insane. Her best team is Her, Lycaon, and Soukaku. As previously established, Lycaon is an amazing stunner, and Soukaku can give insane damage buffs, she has been carrying me through the game with how high her damage output can be if you actually use her right.
    getting a stun with Lycaon and then doing a chain attack to corrin pretty much melts anything infront of her, and if you have time you can hold her EX skill to rack up even more damage.
    or you can get stun with Lycaon and chain attack into Saokaku giving her a stack of vortex, and her fly the flag will let you do a quick assist into corrin to carry the damage buff onto a stunned target for even more insane damage.
    She has the potential to be higher in the tier list with the right playstyle and team.

  • @cyberpunkdarren
    @cyberpunkdarren Месяц назад +3

    Doesn't Billy have a useful ranged DPS? Seems like

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- Месяц назад +1

      I think people won't recognize his ranged DPS until they fully level him, and his crouch shot gets the max buffs it deserves

  • @Saturday_Jones
    @Saturday_Jones Месяц назад

    Having a blast playing Soldier 11. Except those rare occasions where I can’t seem to get the timing right for most of a battle.

  • @Ryuoinsomnia
    @Ryuoinsomnia Месяц назад

    Finally a top tier ice standard unit that actually dont suck as compared to his counterparts in other games like Yanqing,Qiqi and Lingyang basically the curses of losing 5050

  • @tsuaririndoku
    @tsuaririndoku Месяц назад

    Oh and any blade characters that use sword. Can deflect bullets by sprinting. Bullet doesn’t do much damage but *USING NINJA RUN TO DEFLECT THOSE BULLETS* are cool

  • @Lemonpeppergoblin
    @Lemonpeppergoblin Месяц назад

    Only just gotten around to playing yesterday and managed to get Ellen (who was a big reason for me wanting to try the game, love her design).
    Ended up with Soukaku dupes(m3, i think you can get a free copy also? So m4 i guess), and Lycoan was my standard 50 pull guarantee, so i kinda lucked out.
    I did actually really want to build a Koleda/Ben or Neko/Piper team but the only other 4 stars I've been getting are Soukaku, Billy and Anton.

  • @AzelleNoirre
    @AzelleNoirre Месяц назад

    I hope they rework Billy's kit because he is currently the most interesting character (personality-wise) in the game and many people loves him.

  • @QuDaRage
    @QuDaRage Месяц назад

    Oh wow. Literally the best characters in the game, were the ones I pulled first. I was destined to play this game from the beginning 😂

  • @JesuisArsenic
    @JesuisArsenic Месяц назад

    I love Corin so much but I just need Ellen for my ice team to be complete. I got all the Shokaku dupes and two S rank Lycon. Never thought I'd see the day I'd be so into a gacha game 😅

  • @Versussy
    @Versussy Месяц назад

    just play who you like to play and dont listen to tierlists gang, just have fun the way you want it

  • @chito2701
    @chito2701 Месяц назад +1

    i'm having fun playing LUCY, SOLDIER 11 and Ben.

  • @IyoXS
    @IyoXS Месяц назад +1

    Minor changes that I would make, but otherwise I agree! Solid analysis on the characters from your perspective, IWTL! 😃

  • @LemonRush7777
    @LemonRush7777 Месяц назад

    Thats some wild Nicole slander. She's definitely higher than Lucy even at the current meta.

  • @personman5156
    @personman5156 Месяц назад +1

    calling duplicates "mindscapes" and saying M1/M2/etc is just a good example of the collective stupidity of the community, the word "cinema" is right there, its just easier to say C1/C2 and know what you're referring to. The UI button you click on could not make this any easier for you.

  • @Zafaruss
    @Zafaruss 27 дней назад

    Oh how I can’t wait for how this ages

  • @T8-TR
    @T8-TR Месяц назад

    As someone who doesn't plan on pulling Ellen and has Lycaon, Corin is the GOAT.

  • @krokodil5131
    @krokodil5131 Месяц назад

    They really thought "Let's combine bennet and xiangling into one" and made soukaku

  • @arian_motta
    @arian_motta Месяц назад

    When I've reached 30 pulls I got Nekomata and shortly after Soldier 11. I didn't like any of those two while testing, so I've decided to start it all over with a new account. Now I got Lycaon and Soukaku. It's like my dream team !

  • @soundplayground3742
    @soundplayground3742 Месяц назад

    I hope they make a character like Bayonetta that can make time freeze or someone like Flash that moves so fast that time slows down!

  • @duncan_of_hallback857
    @duncan_of_hallback857 Месяц назад +1

    i started playing for billy. i stayed for anby

  • @scaramoche3131
    @scaramoche3131 Месяц назад

    That's a good tier list, almost same except with corin.
    Its random ass team but nicole, corin and lycoon are so fun to play

  • @BestKazuhaFan
    @BestKazuhaFan Месяц назад +1

    i hope lycaon stays in the meta for a long time

  • @Kurai3227
    @Kurai3227 Месяц назад

    I think Corin is much stronger than people realize. Her single target dps is insane when used properly.

  • @yungglocc
    @yungglocc Месяц назад

    im pretty sure billys crouch shot thing tracks if ur locked on. I've never experienced it missing while locking

  • @lollordfrozen
    @lollordfrozen Месяц назад

    Based putting soukaku in S Tier. She's basically ice bennett.
    Not based for putting piper in B tier though. Anomaly is strong as fuck and not many people understand it yet. Piper does SO much damage through Assault and distortion.

  • @Chromixxxx
    @Chromixxxx Месяц назад

    Love the game so far can't wait for more comps and harder content to come out

  • @noxk1992
    @noxk1992 Месяц назад

    It's funny because my first s rank is Lycaon, which is also my fav character when I saw ZZZ. Then yesterday I got Ellen because I got so many polychromes and the value of the 50% discount just can't be ignored. Rolled only 10 and got her XD (not the first roll tho but it was early)

  • @yudhiprasetyanov
    @yudhiprasetyanov Месяц назад +1

    (0:22 Zenless Zero Zero combat is easy to pick up but difficult to master). Yes it is ...

  • @someoneinasia
    @someoneinasia Месяц назад

    lycaon is so busted for a standard character, he is a stunner, also deals good damage and also buffs ice units.

  • @brainiac-cd2vh
    @brainiac-cd2vh Месяц назад

    Ive been runing Rina, Anby, and Anton since im graceless, and honestly its putting inna lot of good work.
    Especially since i have C1S1. Im not mad about it at all, yknow. Immso glad 2 of my ssr's have been a dupe and a weapon.
    ANYWAY. Recommend above team its real fun

  • @marcorivero6981
    @marcorivero6981 Месяц назад +5

    I got Ellen, Lycaon, and soukaku. Very strong team would probably last me til next year

    • @gDiscovery95
      @gDiscovery95 Месяц назад

      Without the awakening I doubt that.

  • @HelloFellowMellowMarshmallow
    @HelloFellowMellowMarshmallow Месяц назад

    Ben's counter gameplay is just too fun to pass up since it can also counter red flash attacks