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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @IWinToLose
    @IWinToLose  2 месяца назад +11

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    • @TopAnime-kn1xr
      @TopAnime-kn1xr 2 месяца назад

      Jimshe > Vurina

    • @Jayuki
      @Jayuki 2 месяца назад

      I'd buy a Red Magic Phone if I was rich.

  • @pandegulapa2128
    @pandegulapa2128 2 месяца назад +333

    the shorekeeper will soon come for that verina tier

    • @theifzelnite1087
      @theifzelnite1087 2 месяца назад +39

      Good ;-; she needs to rest

    • @dxvoureded1ts
      @dxvoureded1ts 2 месяца назад +3

      @@theifzelnite1087Verina will be gone too soon. 😞

    • @John-wt2xq
      @John-wt2xq 2 месяца назад +77

      @@dxvoureded1tsnuh uh she’ll be gone once we get 3 replacements for her she is staying for a good years or more

    • @Balbaneth
      @Balbaneth 2 месяца назад +7

      Not really....there needs to be 2 more.

    • @Panda-yw4us
      @Panda-yw4us 2 месяца назад

      she should atleast be on the same level of verina which is a pretty high bar

  • @hwlerz
    @hwlerz 2 месяца назад +142

    Changli will always be T0 in my heart 🙏 So excited for Zhezhi and Xiang too

    • @taykonkiler
      @taykonkiler 2 месяца назад +13

      bro When Scar comes down you will see her in that rank and not just in your heart brother🗿

    • @Quaker600
      @Quaker600 2 месяца назад

      ​@@taykonkiler scar is havoc.

    • @mehedi8331
      @mehedi8331 2 месяца назад +7

      Changli is more like a sub dps who has the potential to become a part of any great fusion dps team .😊

    • @azizsetyawan3038
      @azizsetyawan3038 2 месяца назад +4

      LoL the community literally considers her as Sub DPS and she would be T0 in terms of sub DPS because as sub DPS she still deals more dmg than normal sub DPS.
      But yet changli main saying she's DPS, and for DPS she will be at T0,5 considering her dmg is still lower than most DPS

    • @Requista
      @Requista 2 месяца назад

      ​@@azizsetyawan3038 yea agree with you.

  • @xShiraori
    @xShiraori 2 месяца назад +69

    It makes me so happy seeing that encore is still very good

    • @rffm1879
      @rffm1879 2 месяца назад

      A top tier character for sure... Have a hard time tho using her since doing her consistent DPS is harder than puking nukes with jinshi.... Skill issue I guess......

  • @maximilianorubio2662
    @maximilianorubio2662 2 месяца назад +74

    Zhezhi is just too good! Love her gameplay

    • @kold6225
      @kold6225 2 месяца назад +9

      Stop the cap 😂

    • @deedeesga34
      @deedeesga34 2 месяца назад +53

      @@kold6225how do you tell someone that they don’t love something 😭

    • @kold6225
      @kold6225 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@deedeesga34I don't really know 😅

    • @takimi_nada
      @takimi_nada 2 месяца назад +27

      @@kold6225 that's exactly it, you don't know lol

    • @kold6225
      @kold6225 2 месяца назад +1

      @@takimi_nada 😂😂

  • @kenchen704
    @kenchen704 2 месяца назад +52

    Zhezhi single handedly ended Yuanwu and Taqoi’s careers on Jinhsi teams 💀

    • @ledience
      @ledience 2 месяца назад

      For taoqi im not sure but you can still use zheizhi and yuanwu to support jinshi in 1 team, and yes you dont need verina

    • @try2fly
      @try2fly 2 месяца назад +10

      Yuanwu is free and zhenzi requires if unlucky around 140 pulls. So no, Hatman is still superior.

    • @snowpetalchan
      @snowpetalchan Месяц назад +1

      @@try2flyOVERWHELMING POWER!!!!

  • @anonymouscreator7339
    @anonymouscreator7339 2 месяца назад +8

    Someone else with an unplayable WuWa after the latest Update? The Camera is the worst nightmare

    • @Boring_loner
      @Boring_loner 2 месяца назад

      Me 💀

    • @Jayuki
      @Jayuki 2 месяца назад

      There's 3 camera mode adjustments out now, maybe try them to see which you like?
      If not, I fixed my camera just by adjusting the sensitivity.

  • @ytsora1999
    @ytsora1999 2 месяца назад +5

    The newly nerfed Scar fight like an old man for real, definitely gonna miss the current Prime Scar

  • @stryfer1989
    @stryfer1989 2 месяца назад +9

    Just a thought for the content creator who found a way to do a 0:00 clear with Jinhsi - WuWa is sorely lacking "how to play xyz character" videos. Namely, what each character needs to get the most damage out of them, what rotation for which team and so on. I recently pulled Encore and I heard that she's getting more praise now that players have figured out how to play her, that she can be built as a hyper-carry or a quick-swap, but no videos on how to actually *play* the builds for max value.
    Best I can get is reading up on it on websites and reddit posts.

    • @Nameless_TV
      @Nameless_TV 2 месяца назад

      You need to check better: there are a lot of good videos on rotations, including some by Maygi. I even made one on Jiyan, etc. You should look for small content creators who focus on details, rather than big content creators who cover multiple games at the same time, because they don’t have time to go into the details of team rotations.

    • @stryfer1989
      @stryfer1989 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Nameless_TV Hey, I checked your Jiyan video and it's pretty good. Well spoken and the pausing is a big help! The thing I find missing in it (and the other smaller content creators I've seen) is reasoning.
      The "do this, then this, then this" is cool if I'm gonna use that exact team and learn the sequence on autopilot, but I'd like to know for example, why the 4NA from Mortefi before Verina, then why another 4 before Jiyan? What's the goal of the warmup rotation and so on?
      These are probably no-brainers for very experienced players, but for someone who just pulled a character or has to adapt a team or faces an enemy in the future where a lot more dodging and movement is necessary, knowing what we get from those extra steps is helpful, so we can adapt. That's the content I feel is missing.
      When IWTL made the video on the 0.00 run, he did a lot of prep and thought about what was necessary to improve his damage as much as possible. He voiced the entire thought process on stream, but the video was super-cut just a little too much.

    • @arahaitham123
      @arahaitham123 2 месяца назад

      @@Nameless_TV Bless Maygi. She's Wuwa Jesus!

  • @Jett125
    @Jett125 2 месяца назад +60

    I agree with everything except maybe changli. In the right content she can be great. She has such good aoe and is able to shoot all over the map which I find is jinshi's one weakness(ish). I'm sure every jinshi player knows the pain of "yes, dragon nuke. Everything must be dead. What!? What's this one random guy over here for?"
    Also as a general overworld character changli is better. It's nit picky small stuff but I do think she should be in the same league as yinlin. She's not as good as jinshi but she should probably be in there

    • @tsuki3003
      @tsuki3003 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah this is similarly like Xiangling and bennet in genshin....no one found their true value yet in the earlier versions now they're literally the hidden archon characters in the game.

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 2 месяца назад +11

      Yeah I personally think Changli is better than Jiyan. People just haven't really experimented with her playstyles and aren't proficient at playing her. Super high damage character with fast rotations, we just need another limited 5* quickswap DPS to pair with her, someone like Yangyang. She also doesn't really have the best main Echo for her playstyle, Inferno Rider can be clunky.

    • @Violate..
      @Violate.. 2 месяца назад +1

      idk i have watched so many vids of jinshi doing lvl 100 heron and beating it in like 70-75 seconds, now i dont got jinshi so i cant say too much but my changli and yinlin team beats lvl 100 heron in 65-60 seconds tho i may tryhard a lot at the game ngl i got the perfect rotation combos

    • @tsuki3003
      @tsuki3003 2 месяца назад +5

      @@hallyuniverse The amount of hate changli gets tho. Now, I've been hearing Xiangli Yao powercreeping her as well lmao.
      I can't wait for them to shut up when Changli will have her perfect set and teams in the future.

    • @tenielhut4587
      @tenielhut4587 2 месяца назад +8

      @@tsuki3003 Xiangli Yao might powercreep Calcharo, not her.

  • @P.X.R.P.L.E
    @P.X.R.P.L.E 2 месяца назад +88

    Not verina being the best character in wuwa while furina whose name sounds like verina is also the best character in her game

    • @JohnWolf926
      @JohnWolf926 2 месяца назад +12

      Also looks like an upgraded nahida who is also a top tier character in genshin

    • @Bakemer94
      @Bakemer94 2 месяца назад +12

      @@JohnWolf926 Verina, Furina, Nahida.... Tracks...

    • @ngasalaja2839
      @ngasalaja2839 2 месяца назад +7

      Except Furina is not the best character in genshin

    • @P.X.R.P.L.E
      @P.X.R.P.L.E 2 месяца назад +5

      @@ngasalaja2839 She is? If not who do you think is? And I swear if you say xinqui…..

    • @LucasHSR
      @LucasHSR 2 месяца назад

      @@P.X.R.P.L.E N E U V I L L E T T E

  • @Leon_S._Kennedy
    @Leon_S._Kennedy 2 месяца назад +2

    Verina being the most op like always
    Full heal in 2 seconds is crazy

  • @jonmorel4645
    @jonmorel4645 2 месяца назад +15

    I feel like Chixia should be bumped up. I'm finally debating on building her just for when I play mobile(got her S6) She makes bosses so easy it seems.

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ 2 месяца назад +2

      I play her at c5 with Changli and they melt bosses its incredible

  • @oke2520
    @oke2520 2 месяца назад +5

    Hahah i am playing WuWa on Redmagic, watcing this vid with redmagic is awesome 😂

  • @cesarignjas
    @cesarignjas 2 месяца назад +9

    the name of the game should as well change to Verina Waves

  • @Fluskar
    @Fluskar 2 месяца назад +3

    wonder how we're gonna view verina 1 year from now
    is it gonna be like bronya from HSR where she was the undisputed support goat for the longest time but then she got somewhat powercrept hard..? or will she always be good

    • @doommaker4000
      @doommaker4000 2 месяца назад +5

      I mean, she will provably get powercrept hard and remain good

    • @groen90
      @groen90 2 месяца назад +8

      HSR's case is quite different being turn based, but I get what you mean. I don't think powercreep is going to hit Verina hard though

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад +1

      its generally going to be hard to specifically powercreep verina because her kit is completely...well..perfect. she amplifies ALL damage for a good amount of time. she has a good weapon that is easy to obtain with an incredible effect for her (concerto is busted) she works in hypercarry and quickswap teams seamlessly, and only needs 1-2 seconds on the field at a time. shes exceedingly easy to build, can utilize the healing set + bell combo. on top of this she gives the entire team multiple attack buffs, and has a cheat death shield if youre not gitting gud enough. for someone to powercreep her they have to have a similar kit OR they need a resonance skill that provides damage increase/forte increasing capabilities.
      i agree that with HSR turn based is a much different beast, and even now bronya is still a top tier character, there's just supports that work more specifically to the differing playstyles/metas (break, hypercarry, FuA, they all have their own super powerful meta-specific supports at this point, or even multiple ones) but you can slot her into any of those teams and still do fine.
      once they start developing healers/supports that are very element/skill/liberation focused then yes, she'll slowly be replaced on every team. but she will always be pretty high tier, and easily accessible.

  • @woootskie
    @woootskie 2 месяца назад +23

    Don't be mad at the T0.5 Changli brothers, she still doesn't have her best team yet and she is already that high. Soon...

    • @TheGenManager
      @TheGenManager 2 месяца назад +6

      I won't be mad at all, and quite understandable.. Also, pretty much she truly needs a SDPS/Support solely dedicated for her...

    • @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
      @youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 2 месяца назад +2

      YES, that's what I'm saying, she needs time to bloom, people did this with Yae Miko from Genshin and then she shines alot in Dendro teams

    • @FacialFischl
      @FacialFischl 2 месяца назад

      …or maybe people don’t know how to play her

    • @Jayuki
      @Jayuki 2 месяца назад +1

      Calcharo+Changli is very good but hard, I heard.

    • @TheGenManager
      @TheGenManager 2 месяца назад

      @@Jayuki I haven't try this, but maybe later...

  • @jalenlloyd2467
    @jalenlloyd2467 2 месяца назад +2

    Personally I believe that similar to how Yuanwu and Taoqi got an increase up the tier list due to Jinhsi I think Lingyang goes up as well due to Zhezhi. She has really brought up Lingyangs damage by a significant amount compared to running Sanhua. And I believe the smoothness of the team (Lingyang, Zhezhi, Baizhi/Verina) has a lot of value as well. I'd say Lingyang is either the top of tier 1 or bottom of Tier 0.5. Havoc rover does have a lot of value as a free unit but other than that I'd even put him past havoc rover after Zhezhi release.

  • @mahirunotsuki9
    @mahirunotsuki9 2 месяца назад +4

    You put Aalto on the same level with Spectro protagonist when you didn't even try to learn him. You have some nerve💀

    • @FacialFischl
      @FacialFischl 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, that’s every tier list maker basically

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад

      the main reason is because his niche is already filled out by better units (specifically at c/s6, whatever you wanna call it) he works well, but for an aero unit like jiyan, mortefi and verina are pretty indispensable. mortefi amplifies heavy attack damage, which is literally what jiyan's entire enhanced liberation state is (barring the original burst animation which is a combination of his forte and his liberation) and verina is...well. the perfect support. any other teams and he's generally just not gonna pull enough weight.
      altho i have seen a lvl 90 yangyang with an aalto supp and it was hilariously strong. he's not bad, but t2 is fair considering how limited his supportive capabilities are

  • @nottyseel949
    @nottyseel949 2 месяца назад +6

    Impatiently waiting on your ZheZhi pull stream. I'm a bit scared because everyone I'm seeing so far is getting cooked.
    I need the false high of seeing someone getting cracked pulls to make me think it could happen to me. I can't bring myself to do it after watching someone get their soul eaten alive.
    Also, Qingyi... Similarly, everyone getting cooked, but tbh, ZZZ is on average 2-3 times the cost to max in WuWa. Fortunately, I'm only going to m2 max in ZZZ.
    What are your plans?

    • @IWinToLose
      @IWinToLose  2 месяца назад +3

      Yoo thanks for the super chat! I'm not planning to stream for a bit (ATM have too many VODS to make), although if time permits, I might stream Genshin 5.0.
      As for my pulls, I pulled Zhezhi to S0R1, and my plan for ZZZ is just everyone at M0U1.
      My luck for ZZZ has also been abysmal lol. Lost every 50/50 and gone to 80 pulls most of the time 😵

    • @nottyseel949
      @nottyseel949 2 месяца назад +1

      @@IWinToLose I can imagine! Juggling the 4 games is hard enough with my day job and responsibilities. Making content on all 4 on top of that, especially content that matches up with the game's content cycle is wild. I appreciate your work.
      I pull for very specific c6 characters in Genshin. So, I'll be closely watching your guides to find who fits me. I have a feeling whoever the flaming red read lady is, she is going to be my target.
      Thanks again, hope the content season does well for you and isn't too stressful for you and the family.

  • @iCHRIS-x
    @iCHRIS-x 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for covering wuwa

  • @jrmy6519
    @jrmy6519 2 месяца назад

    I think I might be able to agree with changli's position (as a diehard changli main) as long as its acknowledged that she's also an incredible buffer for characters that are yet to be released. I feel once these huge burst swap fusion characters come out, changli will rise along with them

  • @stanliu6885
    @stanliu6885 2 месяца назад

    I didn't plan to use my guaranteed pull for Zhezhi coz of Shorekeeper and Yao's weapon but watching her zoom around the enemies in her trial is just so fun that I caved. I'm gonna pray to RNGesus that I win my shorekeeper 50/50.

  • @sensibleplayer
    @sensibleplayer 2 месяца назад +1

    Have both encore and jiyan With great echoes, I can confidently say encore deals a little bit more damage than Jiyan. I still don't know why western teir list always have her below jiyan while in cn teir list she is equal or above jiyan since launch and haven't changed. I guess Jiyan grouping is that much of a big deal.

  • @akhil5841
    @akhil5841 2 месяца назад

    Changli might move up in near future , her damage is crazy I was surprised when I cleared tower of adversity and realised I used wrong level 40 weapon on her so I went against and was surprised even more after seeing her evaporate level 100 boss half health bar with just a single ult

  • @Andy_89
    @Andy_89 2 месяца назад +1

    If you manage the quick swap technik , encore is the best dps in the game 40 sec. in Tower 2-2 with a S1R1 Encore, Jinhsi's overall Team Dps cant compete with a Encore Team what is perfectly played.

  • @pinkpanda187
    @pinkpanda187 Месяц назад +1

    Dang i took a break during jinhsi banner😢

  • @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor
    @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor 2 месяца назад +1

    I understand Verina is in her own class thats just how everyone's tier list is but I can't understand how JJ the only other 5* healer/support is in T1? Even if this was only for the Tower. T1 seems low especially when we need 3 teams.
    I have both Verina and Jinxian and realized just like with the geo arhcon Zhongli from GI why do I need to think about heals when they can't even break my shield.
    Unless they release a character that can shield/heal/parry/buff and take 0 damage from bosses. I think JJ isn't going to be powercrept for a long time.

  • @YWQMD
    @YWQMD 2 месяца назад

    Spectro Rover with the healing set isn't bad, she helped me go 30/30 on the latest ToA, which surprised me.

  • @Matsmellwood
    @Matsmellwood 2 месяца назад +4

    My Jinshi does 120-150k crits and I’m usually happy about it…but I just saw yours do 850k O_O…
    Mines just about good enough to consistently do the lvl 100’s at 3 star…but 6x my damage wth

    • @PolishSadboy
      @PolishSadboy 2 месяца назад +1

      Full buff specific rotation taoqi buff verina buff food buff all weapnow sequencess hmmmmm

    • @Kas-m2z
      @Kas-m2z 2 месяца назад +3

      S6 🐋

    • @exort7010
      @exort7010 2 месяца назад

      What do you expect from s6r5? Happened in every gacha game

    • @Jayuki
      @Jayuki 2 месяца назад

      My S0 does 180K-300 10:28 K crits with Verdant Summit, Zhezhi, and Verina.

  • @eszterfodor1136
    @eszterfodor1136 2 месяца назад +3

    I liked Changli's gameplay more, but lost the 50% (third time 😢 )I will skip this update and maybe get Shorekeeper.

    • @Nesteayy
      @Nesteayy 2 месяца назад +1

      I feel sorry for u :/
      Good decision, shorekeeper is pretty sure very high value n looks amazing as well

  • @zemhaxer1127
    @zemhaxer1127 2 месяца назад

    i wanna keep playing because wuwa is so fun but i keep losing 50/50 that i might just quit because of my luck ngl

  • @MisguidingWish
    @MisguidingWish 2 месяца назад

    Huh how is Changli lower than Jinshi, her DPS is literally equal or more than Jhinshi. Bcz y'all mathematics nerds forget how she has a def shred in her kit and extra 20% dmg bonus which increases her dmg and your also doing more dmg with ur other dps after swapping out from Changli.
    Meanwhile jinshi takes an eternity to gather her stacks then execute a long combo chain

  • @drowsy6744
    @drowsy6744 2 месяца назад +2

    There's just no way lingyan and chixia as dps characters are on par with calcharo. Should be at least in T2 or honestly in T3

    • @MarianoTarsodjat
      @MarianoTarsodjat 2 месяца назад

      There is a way, on bosses that usually fly, jump or when you need to dodge a lot Chixia is way better than Calcharo. I truly regret wasting so many resources on him.

    • @Rappamain
      @Rappamain 2 месяца назад

      There should be.a tier 1.5

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад

      even if you are good at quickswapping and cancelling with calcharo, with their new support-dps characters in changli and zhezhi...those two characters specifically are VERY strong. not to mention chixia can solo bosses incredibly easily in ToA if she's built well enough without needing to rely on A: not being canceled or interrupted, something calcharro is infamous for B: building up resonance liberation, where a large majority of your damage lies
      for this ToA specifically id actually bump chixia UP. she's very strong with good investment.

    • @Arashish17
      @Arashish17 Месяц назад

      Chixia s6 >> Calcharo S0

  • @Freefalling_shr
    @Freefalling_shr 2 месяца назад

    Encore should be before Changli. I have both. Both can 3 star tower hazard level but with sanhua directly buffing encore and even echos favoring her she does better for now.
    P.S. love your s0 to s6 damage checks and thanks for making s0 tierlist.

  • @ichitan0
    @ichitan0 2 месяца назад

    Have you abandoned HSR?? Always thought your star rail character guides are so informative, yet you haven't done any HSR video for Jade/Yunli/Jiaoqiu. And you made so many videos for Wuwa. I wanted to see the Jiaoqiu guide as I'm really looking forward for him, sigh

  • @jekmr84
    @jekmr84 2 месяца назад +1

    I got changli before she left and now I hope I get the new char. I'm glad I have verina at e3

  • @forhue4920
    @forhue4920 2 месяца назад

    My future team: Jinhsi, Zhezhi and Shorekeeper

  • @PaulHofreiter
    @PaulHofreiter 2 месяца назад

    My biggest regret is all of the mats I put into Calcharo. He is straight trash now just because he feels so bad to play compared to everyone else. I would rather main dps Yinlin and he is basically perma-benched now.
    Another regret, just a bit, was pulling Changli. I had a guarantee and used it on her - she’s fun and all but her damage is a letdown after seeing how good Jinhsi was.

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад

      changli absolutely needs good investment (double crit echo stats across the board, and 8-10 in all of her talents, this alone makes a huge difference) but her damage is fairly comparable (at s0) to jihnsi's, and thats even without a true dedicated support for her. jihnsi has a huge nuke, but changli's sustained damage is much better. and her burst window where she can throw off 2 forte's and her liberation can outdamage jihnsi's nuke + liberation. it just depends really. using similar teams with fairly similar completed builds (jihnsi is 75/260 and changli is 77/270) changli actually beat the 2nd half of the middle ToA for this cycle about 12 seconds faster.

  • @pablo-u8x
    @pablo-u8x 2 месяца назад

    Bruh i just got my first 5 star character which is calcharo and it hurts my heart that he's in a tier with 4 star characters😢
    Edit: i got verina now too

  • @Raygetto
    @Raygetto 2 месяца назад +5

    I think your bias is showing… how is yinlin still up there at T0 when she’s not the best on any top team?
    Like how is she a more powerful unit for an account (possibly for any account right now) than Encore, who you only put at T0.5?

    • @narukami4959
      @narukami4959 2 месяца назад +2

      Yinlin is a subdps buffing unit which will be good w any electro dps unit released in the near future meanwhile encore will get powercrept the moment they release a limited fusion mdps

    • @Raygetto
      @Raygetto 2 месяца назад +1

      @@narukami4959 they did. Encore is still hands down better than changli for 99% of players.
      And the tier list is supposed to adapt, ie. Yuanwu moving up in 1.2 tier list because jinhsi got released. It’s not supposed to be a reflection of an uncertain future where maybe yinlin is better than she is today.

    • @narukami4959
      @narukami4959 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Raygetto changli is not entirely a mdps and when they release another fusion mdps they will likely be played together

    • @Mordred_King
      @Mordred_King 2 месяца назад +1

      With Xiangli Yao release she is gonna be even more stronger character

    • @narukami4959
      @narukami4959 2 месяца назад

      @@Mordred_King cant be strong in any top teams when u gotta be played w calcharo 💀

  • @sultannurkhanov5341
    @sultannurkhanov5341 2 месяца назад

    I'd add a tier between T1 and T2, and move Chixia, Lingyang, and Yangyang down. I don't feel like they are on the same level as Calcharo, Baizhi and Jianxin. Maybe move Spectro Rover up to that tier as well. (S)he is still better than Taoci.

  • @bananajoe4220
    @bananajoe4220 2 месяца назад

    Thank god i invested on verina my first time no real dps really clicked on me wen i was beginner and i then i found out havoc rover was given to us and he had scythe and a fallen angel style, i hard invested on him and used my banners for verina to s2 and lemme tell u, i regret nothing! So i can do majority of game contents with her and rover alone haha

  • @Daddy_Of_soraML
    @Daddy_Of_soraML 2 месяца назад +4

    Used to clap enemies with my havoc rover. It was a short journey but fun

  • @sandrotsirghiladze8852
    @sandrotsirghiladze8852 2 месяца назад

    I feel like there should be a T1.5 since I feel like a lot of characters are in between t1 and 2 in power

  • @EldorJ10
    @EldorJ10 2 месяца назад

    Finally a new tier list!

  • @PyroCatus
    @PyroCatus 2 месяца назад

    This make me feel better losing 50/50 and got Verina S2...

  • @arvzg
    @arvzg Месяц назад

    how can you do over 1 million dmg with jinhsi? I have level 90 S0R1 jinhsi with a very good build around 75%/250% crit rate/dmg, fortes maxed out level 90 weapon and I'm usually only getting around 100 to 200k, what am I missing?

  • @sentryion3106
    @sentryion3106 2 месяца назад

    I don’t agree with pulling Jianxin a tier down yet. For now she’s a tank healer which is a great combo since you can’t multiply verina by three.

  • @SyllasEsthevao
    @SyllasEsthevao 2 месяца назад +7

    Pull for Zhezhi or keep my pull guaranteed for Shorekeeper?

    • @blacetv5522
      @blacetv5522 2 месяца назад +2

      We do have quite some time before she drops but if Shorekeeper is a support like Verina she's gonna be a must pull for every account imo..
      Just depends how many pulls you already have and then just calculate roughly 9 weeks of saving + events to pull for Shorekeeper if she's the first half of 1.3.

    • @hungerxhunger2548
      @hungerxhunger2548 2 месяца назад

      Depends if you can save enough for both I will probably pull for both

    • @kold6225
      @kold6225 2 месяца назад

      Keep that pull

    • @implant3567
      @implant3567 2 месяца назад +1

      depends on if u have jinhsi tbh

    • @dragondude1012
      @dragondude1012 2 месяца назад +2

      If you’re able to get zhezhi within this week, you should have enough time to save and get shorekeeper. Shorekeepers patch should add another map section so the pull amount would be higher. If you buy the 30 day astrie pass as well then I’m sure you will be fine.

  • @Nesteayy
    @Nesteayy 2 месяца назад

    I dont get why zhezhi is T0
    1. Yh u can build a good team with her as dps, what is very cool
    2. She deals ok off field dps but not great, yinlins dps is double cz of the long field time of zhezhi (prydwen)
    3. Her use for jinshi is good, not great, 15% more dmg, 5 sec longer rotation
    So i dont get it, i feel like she is T0,5 or T1 but T0?!

    • @Sam9Born
      @Sam9Born 2 месяца назад

      The individual ult hits may do less damage but it stays longer and does 21 hits in total. Her field time isnt long at all after u intro skill. U do 3 basics into skill - basic - skill - skill - heavy - skill and liberation which might take 7 seconds, probably less in in-game time cuz time slows down or stops when u use her tp skill. I would say Zhezhi field time to get outro skill is close to or on par with verina with a refinement 1 variation. She also deals pretty strong on-field damage.
      Tldr she is imo very much on par with yinlin

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад

      she's absolutely worth her T0 rating after having both her and yinlin built up. yinlin's dps is higher yes, but her required field time and the specific limitations of her off field damage make her slightly less reliable than zhezhi, who not only buffs skill damage (which jihnsi prefers over liberation damage by far) but is also on the field about half as long.
      but one thing that you may NOT understand as well, is that her 2nd ascension skill gives the character she's outro'ing to, 15 resonance energy, which is HUGE. with someone like yuanwu, or yinlin, or taoqi, jihnsi can do big dick nukes with her skill, but her liberation (which is a sizeable portion of her burst window as well) is usually not up each rotation. with zhezhi, its almost always going to be ready each skill rotation. and thats a massive dps increase.

  • @gen_pixel
    @gen_pixel 2 месяца назад

    Lost my 50/50… is it better to save for shorekeeper for the verina tier or pull for the painter?

  • @02S0uL
    @02S0uL 2 месяца назад

    wait for the shorekeeper changli scar team combo 🔥

  • @sidetrack146
    @sidetrack146 2 месяца назад +3

    I cannot comment on S0 but at S6 Changli is so much better than Yinlin. It is hard for me to imagine is is much different at S0.

  • @shantanukandwal91
    @shantanukandwal91 2 месяца назад +1

    Am i the only one who hasnt won a single 50/50 in wuwa so far

    • @NeutralC1oud
      @NeutralC1oud 2 месяца назад

      be happy to not have gotten 10 yangyang in a row

  • @JGcd001
    @JGcd001 Месяц назад

    Who is the best 3rd character to use with Rover and Verina?

    • @franzimate
      @franzimate 14 дней назад

      Sanhua if you want a hyper carry team but if you want quick swap, then encore or danjin

  • @HugeConverse
    @HugeConverse 2 месяца назад

    Pulled jinshi with a free ten they gave on her release. Pulled new character with the free eleven they gave of us just the other day. I also have yinlin and Verina. I’m free to play and I have too much power.

  • @MisguidingWish
    @MisguidingWish 2 месяца назад

    U haven't updated genshin toer list for a long while now

  • @DivRaj_120
    @DivRaj_120 2 месяца назад

    The only thing I disagree with is, taoqi and spectro rover in the same tier as aalto. They both have uses, aalto still doesn't have a decent use, either move aalto down or just push taoqi and rover up. They deserve it

    • @yelan3338
      @yelan3338 2 месяца назад

      Aalto should be T3, this guy is a bit too generous with the rankings

  • @thelasttimeiwasherewas100y9
    @thelasttimeiwasherewas100y9 2 месяца назад

    2:00 You beating TOA on Mobile wont convince me lol. The cost of that 800k Jinshi Ult alone you could buy two of the redmagic phones.But I do trust redmagic phones they are the best

  • @RiverSong-px9yg
    @RiverSong-px9yg Месяц назад

    Personally, Changli is T0 for me with her signature weapon and decent echoes. Will be skipping 1.3 for yinlin's rerun.

  • @99Turtwig
    @99Turtwig 2 месяца назад

    This ToA is spectro buffed and Jue Sinergize so well with spectro rover. He is for the ToA T1

  • @Sountemo
    @Sountemo 2 месяца назад +2

    Is Changli really that bad to go into havoc rover tier? From my experience she's stronger than Jiyan (I have both with signatures).

    • @irinapanova7577
      @irinapanova7577 2 месяца назад +1

      She isn't bad nor is havoc rover. It's literally tier 0.5. 'Bad' characters are much, much lower. That said, Jiyan is more consistent, his dmg in longer fights isn't far behind Jingshi, she just has a lot more frontloaded DMG which is a huge plus for bosses and makes her overall better.

    • @yelan3338
      @yelan3338 2 месяца назад +1

      Stronger than jiyan? Your jiyan is just built worse than changli or you're just really skilled with changli

  • @Mordred_King
    @Mordred_King 2 месяца назад +3

    Xiangli Yao is coming strong, i can't wait to bench my Calcharo forever🗿

  • @Matsmellwood
    @Matsmellwood 2 месяца назад

    I always kinda hoped Baizhi would be the best support for a frost/ice DPS with her C6 buff

    • @jonmorel4645
      @jonmorel4645 2 месяца назад

      S6 sanhua and S6 Baizhi make a pretty good zhezhi dps team. Either way I always use her for a second team. Just debating if I should further invest. Her revive is so much better than verinas too

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад

      baizhi's only real downside is that her attack buff only affects a single character, so rotations with her are pretty specific, and if you screw it up, you lose out on a lot of dps.

    • @jonmorel4645
      @jonmorel4645 2 месяца назад

      @mwbwyatt this game revolves so much on skill and also level that healing doesn't matter all that much. just because of how many resources are given to avoid dmg. The reason verina is so valuable is literally just how quickly she does her job. In a time gated end game, giving so much value in such a short window and such low investment makes her so valuable. Baizhi requires much more feild time and at low investment she feels awful to use. Zhezhi feels amazing to use tho, she feels just as good if not better than verina (ult can be cast mid air).

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад

      @@jonmorel4645 yeah, I agree with that 👌

    • @jonmorel4645
      @jonmorel4645 2 месяца назад

      @@mwbwyatt rotations just feel scuffed rn because base units don't really have a good concerto rotation. The best and most consistent concerto in this game so far for me is Zhezhi. She just feels so damn good and easy to play it doesn't even matter who my dmg dealer is as long as they do enough

  • @johns783
    @johns783 2 месяца назад

    Im sorry, 300 to 400k with Jinhsi? I can barely imagine that with mine. 200k is high, though i guess i dont use her optimal nuke team? What team gets her that damage? Had her with YinlinVerina, but I just got Zhezhi so thatll change soon.

    • @dffgny
      @dffgny 2 месяца назад

      I think it's extremely high cons +weapon(and tower spectro bonus), my jinshi is S1R1 with extremely good stats (260 Crit damage , 80 Crit rate and some other stats) , and I could only dream of that damage

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад

      he's doing 400k with resonance liberation because of resonance chains. he's s6/r5. not to mention that he has the tower bonus AND taoqi's deepen buff as well. it all adds up to a gigantic nuke. (he did 1.1m with s6)

    • @johns783
      @johns783 2 месяца назад

      @@mwbwyatt nah i dont think he was. i actually have landed a 400 now, and over 300 is definitely doable. My talents werent capped up then. im sure s6r5 does a hell of a lot more than that.

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад

      @@johns783 that 400k was the liberation, not the resonance skill. the resonance skill was 1.1m

    • @johns783
      @johns783 2 месяца назад

      @@mwbwyatt oh shet, loool. yup, i stand corrected.

  • @Lewis-Di
    @Lewis-Di 2 месяца назад

    I don’t have verina, is it recommend to pull for her and built her? Or its better to wait for shorekeeper? 🤔

    • @yelan3338
      @yelan3338 2 месяца назад +1

      Get both, you should've used the beginner selector or banner for her and you can pull for shorekeeper too

  • @marksalva8836
    @marksalva8836 Месяц назад

    i dont think yinlin is on 0 tier i maxed out all her levels even weapon set into crit dmg percent the damage output is not even make on 5k

  • @FatalGaming250
    @FatalGaming250 2 месяца назад

    Verina loves my account it seems like cuz I got her twice in a single 10x pull in the beginner selector banner and lost 50/50 to her twice and both early pity (less than 10)

  • @evanleone8434
    @evanleone8434 2 месяца назад

    storekeeper is gonna take Verinas spot as the best spectro support/healer

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 2 месяца назад +8

      yeah but then you'll just run Verina on your other team

  • @Brother_Zeke
    @Brother_Zeke 2 месяца назад

    shorekeeper finna help verina at the top one day

  • @TechyCatz
    @TechyCatz 2 месяца назад +1

    I beat the lvl 100 tower without 5 star duplicates 1:56

  • @xentrium7893
    @xentrium7893 2 месяца назад

    Shorekeeper will come soon and destroy this tier list 😂😂🔥🔥

  • @lafdranya6772
    @lafdranya6772 2 месяца назад

    Agreed on your Tier list except Jiyan should be place in tier 0.5 next to Changli. He's good but not crazy good like other T0 imo

    • @yelan3338
      @yelan3338 2 месяца назад

      Jiyan does more damage than changli consistently

  • @KrzyUnit
    @KrzyUnit 2 месяца назад

    How the hell is your jinhsi doing so much dmg?

  • @Zahri8Alang
    @Zahri8Alang 2 месяца назад

    Has everyone get used to the gloops yet

  • @SorryNtSorryLoL
    @SorryNtSorryLoL 2 месяца назад +3

    Good tier list but I still think that Jiyan is better dps than Jinhsi but depends on build and investment I saw in most videos that he can clear abyss faster
    (Just my opinion Jinhsi is good)
    Jiyan is better :D

    • @Schrvdinger
      @Schrvdinger 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes dps wise Jiyan and Jinhsi are pretty close, but the thing is Jiyan takes way longer to deal all his damage, while Jinhsi does all her damage at once... so if you were trying to kill a boss fast Jinhsi is the faster option

  • @randomoofkingstuff2174
    @randomoofkingstuff2174 2 месяца назад

    verina will be in her tier for a while. in order for her to be out of meta. kuro need to make 3 support characters just like that.

  • @Shortstep_
    @Shortstep_ 2 месяца назад

    I just know verina is gonna have that S to D qiqi treatment

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 2 месяца назад +5

      Absolutely not lol it would be really hard to powercreep her into Qiqi tier. She provides off-field damage, ATK buff, DMG% buff, and has a really low on-field time. A character like that will be good for the entire lifecycle of a game, even if they powercreep her she'll at worst become an A tier character (like if we get several limited 5* supports/healers that have bigger buffs than her, which will take years). She is the Bennett of this game.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 2 месяца назад

      Honestly verina is in different boat and she does more than just healing. Since she provides some solid buffs.

  • @ShadowOfNos
    @ShadowOfNos 2 месяца назад +4

    just started playing and (as a Genshin viewer) am glad you're making content on this game as well! Tbh I find WuWa content creation is lacking a lot of quality right now.

  • @trukinis420
    @trukinis420 2 месяца назад

    The reason why Changli isn't in top tier is because she is hard to use. She's not a casual friendly unit. One mistake will ruin the whole rotation, even one ultimate that won't crit.

    • @yelan3338
      @yelan3338 2 месяца назад

      No, even if you have the perfect rotation with her she does exactly the same amount of dps as jiyan, the fact that most people can't play her perfect makes her do less.

    • @Nesteayy
      @Nesteayy 2 месяца назад

      ​@@yelan3338No? Check prydwen?!
      Her dps perfect played surpas jinshi by a tiny bit, but Nobody will pull that Out
      Anyways, her perfect dps is 30% over Jiyan, so AAAA LOOOT stronger

    • @Nesteayy
      @Nesteayy 2 месяца назад

      ​@@yelan3338i hate this comments, splitting wrong informations without any source

    • @Nesteayy
      @Nesteayy 2 месяца назад

      Swap Meter
      Changli
      Changli (3 Conquest + Post Ult Heavy + Echo)
      43,920 DPS112.39%
      Changli
      Changli (2 Conquest + Post Ult Heavy + Echo [Base])
      39,079 DPS100.00%
      Changli
      Changli (1 Conquest + Post Ult Heavy + Echo)
      35,199 DPS90.07%
      Changli
      Changli (Post Ult Heavy + Echo [Minimum])
      32,020 DPS81.94%

    • @Nesteayy
      @Nesteayy 2 месяца назад

      Jiyan (S0)
      407.865 DMG (33.503 DPS)100.00%

  • @rzcw_
    @rzcw_ 2 месяца назад +9

    Changli is at the same level as jiyan and its proved by theory crafters and she is not even a main dps. what are you on ?

    • @mehedi8331
      @mehedi8331 2 месяца назад +3

      Who cares ?
      Just play with the character you love 😅😅

    • @jmv251
      @jmv251 2 месяца назад

      ​@mehedi8331 are you stupid, perhaps you were dropped as a child? This is a tierlist video. Not a guide video. Bro cannot be giving false information to other people who look at these video and follow the information given. It's completely fine to criticize it given its objectively wrong.

    • @rjdn1384
      @rjdn1384 2 месяца назад

      But the in game numbers says otherwise lil bro

    • @AmritSingh-gj5rw
      @AmritSingh-gj5rw 2 месяца назад

      Who cares??? Thiz is a tier list video my dude
      If no one cared about placements why would you be watching the video. Why are u watching the video if u don't care would be a better question to ask​@@mehedi8331

    • @AmritSingh-gj5rw
      @AmritSingh-gj5rw 2 месяца назад

      @@rjdn1384 they dont? She does similar dmg to jiyan??)

  • @villaininglasses7456
    @villaininglasses7456 2 месяца назад

    GUYS HELP!!! I don't have Verina..... and she is used in almost every team... please tell me a replacement for her.... for jiyan, jinhsi and changli.... those are my dps !!!

    • @Brother_Zeke
      @Brother_Zeke 2 месяца назад

      Baizhi does practically the same thing
      if you really dont have a verina you should invest in her for now
      she provides a 10% damage increase when you use your skill at full stack and outro also buffs damage just like verina
      but shes way slower on gaining concerto energy(outro) and does little to no damage
      shes faster on healing than verina tho

    • @BestKazuhaFan
      @BestKazuhaFan 2 месяца назад

      okay well why didn’t you select her.. 💀💀 you literally had 2 chances

  • @yelan3338
    @yelan3338 2 месяца назад

    Zhezhi should be T0.5 and aalto should be T3(exists)

  • @kingsimba9513
    @kingsimba9513 2 месяца назад +24

    Finally, someone who doesn't overhype Changli. Can't expect to be with the other T0 units when you have the multipliers of a sub-dps but the field-time of a main-dps.
    She definitely needs to be put in the same tier as Encore given that Encore/Sanhua currently outperforms any of Changli's teams (according to Maygi's calcs, the most respected WuWa theorycrafter).

    • @vickdinvick5485
      @vickdinvick5485 2 месяца назад +13

      i honestly dont think ppl overhype changli that much, i mean dmg wise, at least is what i see around here, but the gameplay aspect, ohh boy, not a single unit come close to her, her fluidity is on another lvl, the place he put her on this tier list is perfect imho, meta dmg all those 3 bigs are above her (jinhsi, jyan and yinlin) the new unit i have no idea lol

    • @henryschaade7538
      @henryschaade7538 2 месяца назад +2

      I think she is fine where she is. In one rotation with Forte, Liberation, Forte, not considering damage she does with her Skill, she is easily above 200 K Damage if she crits.

    • @Kindi001
      @Kindi001 2 месяца назад +2

      also her forte and liberation that have Huge aoe will quickly wipe out enemies is handy.

    • @kingsimba9513
      @kingsimba9513 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Kindi001 you know who else has really good (and arguably better) AOE? Literally all the other limited 5 stars excluding ZheZhi.

    • @nebula5737
      @nebula5737 2 месяца назад +6

      who overhypes her? you just sound like a hater tbh

  • @Ollivian_Guy
    @Ollivian_Guy Месяц назад

    what does T0, T0.5 mean?

  • @cakeoxd9956
    @cakeoxd9956 2 месяца назад +1

    Bro you gotta show your builds for the characters on the screen like what kind of damages are those?
    Are all of them(Jiyan, Jinshi and Changli) S6?

    • @Mafagafo7
      @Mafagafo7 2 месяца назад

      Yes, he's a nasty whale (still love him)

    • @ApotheosisXII
      @ApotheosisXII 2 месяца назад +1

      They have to have dupes, i dont think that damage is possible without them.

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret 2 месяца назад +1

      I feel most content creators are whales

  • @1Apex_LegendProMaster007
    @1Apex_LegendProMaster007 2 месяца назад

    Are you gonna come back and main Genshin?

  • @thedreamer3668
    @thedreamer3668 2 месяца назад

    1 question. Is baizhi viable as sub dps at s6??

    • @RejectedInch
      @RejectedInch 2 месяца назад +1

      no. But is an excellent 4* sustain/healer

    • @RiverSong-px9yg
      @RiverSong-px9yg Месяц назад

      She provides shield with bellborne echo and heals. Her attacks like throwing the pet or spinning it is bad.

  • @Sphynx93rkn
    @Sphynx93rkn 2 месяца назад +5

    WWE entrance intro

  • @MikojinToyunda
    @MikojinToyunda 2 месяца назад

    I feel like Verina is a problem as we really don't have equivalent to a healer / support DPS right now.
    I always need her in my team and I feel it's more a problem than a good thing in WuWa where team building is already very limited (as you don't really have to deal with element interaction most of the time)
    If Jianxing shield wasn't so slow to create, and usually loosing half of it if not more trying to create it as you take damage while charging, then she could be a better support.
    Hopefully, we'll get another shielder that would be a good swap to Verina in some teams as we can't use Verina in every team for the Tower !

  • @khaledbou7770
    @khaledbou7770 2 месяца назад

    Switch jiyan and changli , and it'll be a perfect list

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад

      i have both built really well with maxed skills, and id say theyre very close, changli might sliiiiiiightly edge him out at s0.

    • @khaledbou7770
      @khaledbou7770 2 месяца назад

      @@mwbwyatt im not talking about dmg only tho , changli has her perks outside being a dps , she buffs the next sub or main dps on the team

  • @AlphaAbyss_
    @AlphaAbyss_ 2 месяца назад

    Bot watched yet but there are 2 certaintys jinhsi and verina aint moved no where

  • @DerpyVenom
    @DerpyVenom 2 месяца назад

    free mah purple boy calcharo

  • @minhanhvuthai8315
    @minhanhvuthai8315 2 месяца назад

    Encore with Zhezhi weapon :))

  • @GameOnline16
    @GameOnline16 2 месяца назад

    wow almost 800k dmg Jinshi
    is she C6 ?

    • @mwbwyatt
      @mwbwyatt 2 месяца назад +1

      his jihnsi is s6r5 lol, is that even a question for our favorite whale xD

  • @liquid_cheese9930
    @liquid_cheese9930 2 месяца назад +1

    I strongly feel that Baizhi should be T0.5. She is our 2nd strongest support with lingering outro, you need at least 2 teams and she is your best pick for the 3rd slot after Verina. Even built Yinlin would perform worse or similar in the 3rd slot compare to Baizhi. Right now everyone who wants to 30* the tower should build Baizhi

    • @crimsonknightli1238
      @crimsonknightli1238 2 месяца назад

      I use her with my Jinshi team even though I have Verina

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 2 месяца назад

      Yeah idk why people are undervaluing her, she does the exact same thing as Verina. Her healing is slightly higher than Verina's and her buffing is slightly lower.

    • @Lubossxd
      @Lubossxd 2 месяца назад +4

      @@hallyuniverse because she can't get as much concerto that quickly so she eats your rotation time

    • @hallyuniverse
      @hallyuniverse 2 месяца назад

      @@Lubossxd That's true but she'll probably be quite strong in Xiangli Yao + Yinlin teams

    • @liquid_cheese9930
      @liquid_cheese9930 2 месяца назад

      @@Lubossxd she gets concerto decently fast. If you have enough ER she gets it in 5 - 6s, this is the same or lower then almost every other support, only Verina and San Hua are faster. Verina is still much better though, faster outro + bigger buffs

  • @obeveklig679
    @obeveklig679 2 месяца назад +1

    Didn't expect Changli in T0.5 but its definitely correct

    • @khalidct4160
      @khalidct4160 2 месяца назад

      s0 changli puts more dmg than jiyan , he just doesnt know how to play her

    • @ledience
      @ledience 2 месяца назад

      ⁠​⁠@@khalidct4160 because you only compare her dmg but not team combo potential, jiyan+mortefi is absolute formidable while changli is very hard on swap cancelling and tbh not everyone comp with changli can deal higher dmg output than jiyan+morfi

  • @susancoffey350
    @susancoffey350 2 месяца назад

    So bro casualy do 13s heron? Mean while im do my best 2x3 floors for 18 stars :v

  • @prashantKumar-te9ce
    @prashantKumar-te9ce 2 месяца назад

    Jiyan above chang li?