The TRUTH About the Artifact Transmuter! DON'T MESS UP! Genshin Impact 5.0

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  • @IWinToLose
    @IWinToLose  4 месяца назад +213

    Go destroy Rivenous's notifications by subscribing to his Genshin channel: www.youtube.com/@iamrivenousGI
    He helped a lot with the calcs and will be doing top tier theory crafting in Genshin Impact!

    • @gaminglife8103
      @gaminglife8103 4 месяца назад +1

      Happy vacation sir

    • @loneWolf-jm9gg
      @loneWolf-jm9gg 4 месяца назад

      @@IWinToLose I replied before you commented

    • @ike4nole753
      @ike4nole753 4 месяца назад +1

      Wait im not sure but i think the chart is missing "Dendro dmg bonus" for the golbet.

    • @fernandojoseraquel9150
      @fernandojoseraquel9150 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ike4nole753it's all the same still

    • @Irru_
      @Irru_ 4 месяца назад

      6:10 I don’t think the Avg Runs value in the sheet is correct though. You can’t just divide 100 by 0.98. There’s a lot of different math involved, but basically
      On average, you should enter about 70 times to have a better than 50% chance of winning at least once with a 0.98% chance of winning per attempt. Which is the ‘Avg Runs’ value.
      And to be 99.99% sure of winning at least once with a 0.98% chance per attempt, you should enter approximately 930 times.

  • @SadBoy-pr6zq
    @SadBoy-pr6zq 4 месяца назад +5578

    Imagine waiting to craft one artifact after months only for it to still all roll into def

    • @sudiptaday7875
      @sudiptaday7875 4 месяца назад +242

      It's fine even if I get a geo goblet with the lowest crit state possible my navia would be better with a different time piece

    • @ddiatta24
      @ddiatta24 4 месяца назад +185

      Deleting Genshin within the next 10 seconds and proceed to scream and morn internally…

    • @GerriFuryman
      @GerriFuryman 4 месяца назад +49

      imagine just using offset and never had any problems...

    • @_sijja
      @_sijja 4 месяца назад +96

      I know right lmao
      waiting 4-6 months and endup with a flat 70 DEF goblet

    • @johankaruyan5536
      @johankaruyan5536 4 месяца назад +85

      @@GerriFuryman BRO I STILL DONT HAVE GOOD PYRO GOBLET FROM ANY SET

  • @BottomFragBandit
    @BottomFragBandit 4 месяца назад +3556

    *>Creates a double crit elemental damage piece.*
    *>Levels it up.*
    *>Rolls double defense stats.*
    *>All stat boosts go towards defense.*
    *>Has to wait months until I can do it again!*

    • @Senseisbinah
      @Senseisbinah 4 месяца назад +338

      forgot the >kms

    • @7HFEstorque
      @7HFEstorque 4 месяца назад +138

      Won't be surprised at all bc def is like 75% chance to roll into

    • @QQQQ51111
      @QQQQ51111 4 месяца назад

      ​@@7HFEstorque 100% on my account 💀

    • @guillermocervisalmeron2209
      @guillermocervisalmeron2209 4 месяца назад +9

      Yipee

    • @XnathOW
      @XnathOW 4 месяца назад

      ​@@7HFEstorqueFalse

  • @APO1029
    @APO1029 4 месяца назад +4146

    They say genshin has gacha for characters, but characters are guaranteed eventually. THIS is the real gacha.

    • @cynicalmandate
      @cynicalmandate 4 месяца назад +15

      Pretty much everything can be guaranteed...

    • @Neuvillete4.6
      @Neuvillete4.6 4 месяца назад

      @@cynicalmandate no just no

    • @banheesos
      @banheesos 4 месяца назад +129

      only limited 5 stars truly gets a guaranteed drop.

    • @rayman.007iq
      @rayman.007iq 4 месяца назад

      ​@@cynicalmandate *cries in no em goblet in 4 months*

    • @lucifermorningstar8387
      @lucifermorningstar8387 4 месяца назад +267

      @@cynicalmandatenot artifact substat rolls they are pure rng

  • @OMGclueless
    @OMGclueless 4 месяца назад +280

    Basically:
    * If it's bad, strongbox it
    * If it's got some OK rolls, level to 4 and transmute it if it's bad
    * If it's worth continuing, level it up and feed it to another artifact for exp if it rolls bad

    • @alexjackyperson101
      @alexjackyperson101 3 месяца назад +7

      Overall, its not worth using, you might as well strongbox bad or ok artifacts

    • @pakman9794
      @pakman9794 3 месяца назад +20

      @@alexjackyperson101 I can't agree that it's not worth using AT ALL. But it's WILDLY disappointing.

    • @disguisedcat1750
      @disguisedcat1750 2 месяца назад

      100 xp for 1 elixir where exp=artifact levels is insane. Whoever thought of this needs to stop thinking, and exit the universe, please…

  • @Lynemn
    @Lynemn 4 месяца назад +405

    Considering the number of resources required to make a single Sanctifying Elixir, they should have allowed for an unlimited number to be extracted. Gating them to one per patch is a complete joke, as it allows for a single, negligible goblet (likely with bad sub-stat rolls) to be crafted once every six months.

    • @CHICKENNUGGET69360
      @CHICKENNUGGET69360 4 месяца назад +4

      Probably 2 per patch

    • @TacticalDimples
      @TacticalDimples 4 месяца назад

      @@CHICKENNUGGET69360 why 2 per patch? You’re purposely cucking yourself lol. It’s already expensive as it is. Either make it cheaper with time gate or make it expensive and remove the time gate.

    • @lonesoljazangetsu1157
      @lonesoljazangetsu1157 4 месяца назад +41

      Exactly. This is complete bs. We, as players don't stand up to this bs so they'll keep doing shit like this. It's ridiculous

    • @deliro8758
      @deliro8758 4 месяца назад +3

      Six months? What is bro yapping about😂

    • @ABC-yj6cy
      @ABC-yj6cy 4 месяца назад

      Take it or leave it

  • @arkozhs
    @arkozhs 4 месяца назад +814

    by the time you have 4 elixir, you forgot what artifact you want to make.

    • @rcisneros8567
      @rcisneros8567 4 месяца назад +30

      LOL! So true. Or you've moved to another set, character or build.

    • @froeloe
      @froeloe 4 месяца назад +81

      this elixir system is good. but they put too much strict and obnoxious requirements on it it becomes meh.

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад +25

      i do you one better.
      Bu the time you got enough artifacts with this system to roll a decent one.
      Genshin 2 will probably be launched and half way through the whole story.

    • @zainspierrot7075
      @zainspierrot7075 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@froeloeThis mean isnt good...

    • @nameamvs9332
      @nameamvs9332 4 месяца назад +1

      @@froeloe honestly if they gave more elixir it would be amazing

  • @schopenhauer5427
    @schopenhauer5427 4 месяца назад +1131

    Can't wait to get my Lvl20
    Crit rate: 2.7%
    Crit DMG: 5.4%
    HP: 19
    Def: 110
    Pyro goblet for Christmas 🎄🎉

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 4 месяца назад +25

      On set damage goblets are so rare and precious that i am ok with lowering my very high standards for them if it can save me months of resin

    • @_mako
      @_mako 4 месяца назад +11

      @@lafeechloe6998 how valuable an on set goblet will be all depends on how good your off piece is.

    • @youssefalpha8466
      @youssefalpha8466 4 месяца назад +5

      I literally have the same stats u mentioned

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 4 месяца назад +6

      @@_mako Its clearly easier to slot a 45cv feather than a 35 CV on set goblet. If the goblet is the off set piece you will probably get something like "35CV goblet + 35 cv forth piece" If the goblet is the on set you will maybe get "28CV on set + 45 CV off set" That's more stats

    • @DeltaBun
      @DeltaBun 4 месяца назад +1

      @@lafeechloe6998or if you have a 45 CV off set gob already, then you could just go for that.
      It just all depends on the context and what the worst artifact for that character is. If your gob is doodoo even though it’s already an off piece, then sure absolutely go for an on piece gob and test your luck, but if your time piece, or your circlet is the weakest link, and you already have a pretty good off set gob (42-45+ CV) then there’s no reason to keep gambling for an on set gob when it’s really realistically not gonna do much for your character, if anything it might downgrade your character if you try to force a mid on set goblet onto the character and trying to make that work.

  • @Brianuuuu
    @Brianuuuu 4 месяца назад +1847

    I genuinely think goblets costing 4 artifact fuel thingies are a bit too much considering the limitation they put on how often you can get those artifact potions

    • @Puppetmaster2005
      @Puppetmaster2005 4 месяца назад +355

      Yea.... I mean... How hard would it be to allow us ONE goblet every abyss / theater reset. I think thats reasonable.
      The current rate is too obnoxious.

    • @adrishchatterjee8711
      @adrishchatterjee8711 4 месяца назад +217

      especially considering that there's a chance that the rolls dodge both crits(happens very frequently to me ;-;)

    • @OmarFaruk-i9
      @OmarFaruk-i9 4 месяца назад +52

      ​@@Puppetmaster2005or even just make it cost 1 or 2 maximum.

    • @adnanhussain9057
      @adnanhussain9057 4 месяца назад

      I recently got an electro goblet with double crit and double flat stats and it all rolled into both flat stats smh. ​@@adrishchatterjee8711

    • @GerriFuryman
      @GerriFuryman 4 месяца назад +65

      Just use offset, never in my life i have problems with goblets. Crit dmg/rate head is more important. Always just use offset for goblet/head if you have any problems with finding any of it. And in 4 years i never farm art domains more than few weeks before getting full set that had mid stats and still dealing tons of dmg. People make big deal of artifacts, while the real problem is that they are just bad at understanding the game.

  • @DottorNapoli
    @DottorNapoli 4 месяца назад +286

    Making calculations: ❌
    Writing a program that makes calculations for you:✔️

    • @shoppingforleaves3162
      @shoppingforleaves3162 4 месяца назад +15

      Simulation =/= Calculation
      It's way more fun to code a sim though.

  • @jobhaj4364
    @jobhaj4364 4 месяца назад +243

    I don’t know what were they thinking by making the elixir limited to 1 each 41 days bro that’s insane, so basically you have to wait for 6 months to build 1 goblet that might end up rolling HP or DEF… hoyo really need to wake up

    • @babyjiren9676
      @babyjiren9676 4 месяца назад +25

      It’s to incentivize purchasing battle pass and spending more time in game since you get elixirs that way too

    • @lycoreco5154
      @lycoreco5154 4 месяца назад +15

      ​@@babyjiren9676yes exactly. You can get 6 this patch and more in the future. It's not as bad as people make it out to be. It basically guarantees 1 potential good goblet per patch.

    • @tranvantan3377
      @tranvantan3377 4 месяца назад +10

      You’ll get more from open world and events so its not as bad as it seems

    • @Dinofrogg
      @Dinofrogg 4 месяца назад +14

      ​@@lycoreco5154people complain without even playing the game i swear half these comments havent even explored the new area yet and jump the conclusion.

    • @alexprus7953
      @alexprus7953 4 месяца назад +11

      ​@@lycoreco5154I mean, it is pretty bad. Having to sacrifice 25 different lv 4 artifacts when they could've been used as exp for upgrading different ones.

  • @aremmm
    @aremmm 4 месяца назад +1701

    I'm basically going to treat these like my crowns; hoarding until I feel like using them.

    • @macabre21A
      @macabre21A 4 месяца назад +15

      So it can accumulate? That's nice, I am in no need for using that to get artifacts currently.

    • @danielschomburg2140
      @danielschomburg2140 4 месяца назад +28

      so craft them into onset goblets for your favorite characters who happen to have the worst onset goblets, yup.

    • @aremmm
      @aremmm 4 месяца назад +147

      @@danielschomburg2140 goblets can easily be offset though. I personally have worse luck with onset sands

    • @vijaysinghr988
      @vijaysinghr988 4 месяца назад +30

      ​@@aremmm same I've been doing emblem domain since launch and I still don't have any good er sands, the best one I have is 15% hp with 25cd

    • @rayman.007iq
      @rayman.007iq 4 месяца назад +7

      ​​@@vijaysinghr988 I will do you one better, er sand with 25% def and 5/5 critstats

  • @JEFF-we9cx
    @JEFF-we9cx 4 месяца назад +804

    Bro coded an entire program for 1 statistic which is insane dedication for giving the most accurate and well informed information

    • @shiho1481
      @shiho1481 4 месяца назад +18

      That momemt when you write sim app instead of probability theory calculus😎
      While IRL/RNG results are sample based and personalised, so can be not a good source of statistics (like IRL coin is not close to 50% because it depends on how you hold it and force you apply in most cases).
      At first I thought it was coding integration ad😅

    • @gdpaplays
      @gdpaplays 4 месяца назад +3

      True hero

    • @Monkers18
      @Monkers18 4 месяца назад +9

      He's probably a sfotware engineer, or chatGPT can write that with some precise prompting.

    • @kraithus
      @kraithus 4 месяца назад +5

      hardwork laziness

    • @practic4l349
      @practic4l349 4 месяца назад +1

      He must be a poe player

  • @lucentyrchannel2093
    @lucentyrchannel2093 4 месяца назад +539

    I think like crowns they should give one elixer per main event of the patch. That makes it 2 elixir per patch.

    • @kupo5632
      @kupo5632 4 месяца назад +14

      This is a very good idea

    • @-_-Hayden
      @-_-Hayden 4 месяца назад +16

      And 3 if you get the battle pass

    • @divinezmuz
      @divinezmuz 4 месяца назад +11

      Still copium.

    • @RavenShugo
      @RavenShugo 4 месяца назад +9

      And then they will stop giving crowns, cause it will be too much and Da Wei will cry again. They put crows in shop for cost of 10 pulls, so there is a possibility they really gonna not give us them anymore btw.

    • @akamistify
      @akamistify 4 месяца назад +58

      @@RavenShugoyall have gotta stop doomposting, they’re not gonna take away the free crowns💀. It’s just an extra for those who want it

  • @skyhart9926
    @skyhart9926 4 месяца назад +42

    1:26 those are obnoxious elixir costs especially with the level of gatekeeping Hoyoverse has put on the system. There should at least be an option where, say, I only want a Goblet with main stat EM, but don’t care about the substats - I should be able to craft said Goblet with less elixir cost. Having to collect & spend 4 elixirs if I only want main stat EM Goblet is just too heavy and time-consuming.

    • @Lolic0nz
      @Lolic0nz 4 месяца назад +4

      Facts. Or if it costs this much have the +20 only roll into selected subs

  • @erikswanson4338
    @erikswanson4338 4 месяца назад +72

    It's a little disengenous to say that 4 artifact crafting can replace 4 years of resin since you're not farming those pieces sequentially. In the year of farming it takes on average to find a double crit hydro goblet, you're also likely to find several other double crit damage goblets for other elements naturally.
    The 4 year math only works if you want 4 hydro damage goblets, which I think is less common than wanting damage goblets of other elements.
    The math also neglects the relevance of other valuable substats. I'm perfectly happy with a single crit substat if the other substats are a good combo of ER, EM, and Atk% (or whatever main stat), which makes it more common to find good pieces while farming and therefore less valuable to craft them.
    Overall I think the crafting system is great, but the rate of getting elixers is way way way too low. I think they could easily be 5-10 times more common. Especially with IT making it so that you're expected to build so many more characters.

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад

      i usually like his videos. but this one was utterly disappointing, as he got very dishonest here.
      Licking mihoyo ass should have a limit.

    • @x_Psyduck_x
      @x_Psyduck_x 4 месяца назад +4

      I hope they'll give us elixirs in future events just as self-model resin in HSR, additional 1 per patch would already be a big deal

    • @wksers_serks
      @wksers_serks 4 месяца назад +1

      I legit thought this crafting system was introduced due to the latest endgame mode (the imaginarium or whatever it was called) as a way to encourage players, especially newer ones. To catch up and be able to play the mode. But the rate of which you acquire the elixirs is so slow it doesn't make sense to me.

    • @justanormalperson5909
      @justanormalperson5909 4 месяца назад +1

      @@wksers_serks i have no idea why you would think that, imaginarium theatre is much more character quantity based rather than quality based, it woud help a lot more for the abyss, i for one managed to beat imaginarium theatre second season and almost season 1 too but never beat floor 12 of abyss

    • @wksers_serks
      @wksers_serks 4 месяца назад

      @@justanormalperson5909 You're actually right. I did forget about the abyss, and indeed this is more likely to help with the abyss. But if I think of it from that point of view (a system to help with the abyss struggle with pieces). then with the new reset time of the abyss I could see why would such a system be so scarce. But then again it does feel unnecessarily slow. a similar rate to the crowns would make more sense to me, at least that's my opinion.

  • @ciciosweep
    @ciciosweep 4 месяца назад +119

    They know how hard is for a goblet to be good, and they just make it more expensive, thax hoyoverse, we appreciate it

    • @IveBeenWithBruma
      @IveBeenWithBruma 4 месяца назад +4

      Should be just main stat only and make every piece only cost one. They messed this system up badly.

    • @darken2417
      @darken2417 4 месяца назад

      Surprised that there were people angry since they were the sort to farm artifacts for perfect stats since this mechanic takes forever to farm anyway. Might as well just keep farming artifacts lol.
      But if they are mad enough then maybe Hoyo will drop some good stuff for everyone.

  • @thewaytogame6876
    @thewaytogame6876 4 месяца назад +283

    No wonder my Venti has had a 4 star EM globlet for years now

    • @JyGproductions
      @JyGproductions 4 месяца назад +5

      How have you never found an good off piece 5 star em goblet?

    • @thewaytogame6876
      @thewaytogame6876 4 месяца назад +11

      @@JyGproductions yes, but not in the VV set, and the others (the only 2) Kazuha and Nahida has them as the off piece.

    • @khrndr
      @khrndr 4 месяца назад +2

      Lol, I have some pretty good EM main stat artifacts, but none of them are from the same set so I can't even meet the 2-piece set bonus. My Venti is always either on mixed artifacts with no set bonus or mid-tier 4-star VV set.

    • @avatarxs9377
      @avatarxs9377 4 месяца назад

      @@thewaytogame6876 then my case is kind of anomaly. i farmed full em vv set in a month.

    • @ABC-yj6cy
      @ABC-yj6cy 4 месяца назад +1

      Wait, people still use venti?

  • @Rohan_Yadav7
    @Rohan_Yadav7 4 месяца назад +373

    13:30 apparently there are atleast 3 lying around in overworld that you can just go and collect

    • @Regulus37
      @Regulus37 4 месяца назад +8

      Where do you collect the other 3 in the overworld?

    • @fursuits
      @fursuits 4 месяца назад +132

      @@Regulus37 you need to collect all obsidian fragments for each tribe then craft rings and find each tribe's "hidden treasure"

    • @Regulus37
      @Regulus37 4 месяца назад +5

      @@fursuits Thanks for the help! I'll check it out.

    • @rayman.007iq
      @rayman.007iq 4 месяца назад +31

      ​@@Regulus37 the fragments are rng.
      So yeah... Happy exploring 😊

    • @thedreamleader
      @thedreamleader 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@rayman.007iq welp, wanted to explore natlan for the offering trees and statues anyway might aswell 😅

  • @Nomiko.
    @Nomiko. 4 месяца назад +11

    Tl;dw: Feed +4 artifacts to transmutter to craft elixirs, craft elemental dmg goblets with them for maximum efficiency.

  • @JAMllostthegame
    @JAMllostthegame 4 месяца назад +6

    Honestly, considering the amount of resources it takes to use the Transmuter, I feel like a good use for it would be to quickly bandaid any builds you're currently working on. Like it's a side hustle for artifacts and not the main source of them.

  • @KuroWedsHoyo
    @KuroWedsHoyo 4 месяца назад +742

    4 goblets in a year yes? Which can still roll all into flat stats yes it's DOGSHT
    Edit :One more thing just noticed I made mualani hydro on set double crit and was ready to make a double crit sands too but GUESS WHAT you can only make 1 piece of any set every patch(this is forked up beyond)

    • @0rokuSaki
      @0rokuSaki 4 месяца назад +124

      It's pretty bad, tbh. Cost is far too high for such a little, if any, reward.

    • @GerriFuryman
      @GerriFuryman 4 месяца назад +36

      just use offset, stop making big deal of artiffacts, in 4 years never had any problems with it, just put anything with mid rolls and wipe all the content

    • @blankness8
      @blankness8 4 месяца назад +14

      Isn't it only 2 goblets in a year?
      You can get 1x elixir per patch (42 days). So, 4x elixirs (= 1 goblet) takes 168 days, 8 elixirs (= 2 goblets) takes 336 days.
      Unless I'm missing something. I would be overjoyed to be wrong lol and it's actually 4 goblets
      Edit: Oh you get some from permanent content nvm

    • @johankaruyan5536
      @johankaruyan5536 4 месяца назад +8

      @@GerriFuryman older characters have trouble uiping neu content

    • @GlacioDreadmane
      @GlacioDreadmane 4 месяца назад

      nah bro, this is feature is SO PEAK

  • @jonathan_chillgaming
    @jonathan_chillgaming 4 месяца назад +97

    13:16, I already 100% Natlan this patch, let me share something that may be helpful (I will use the term SE: Sanctifying Elixir).
    1. You can get 1 SE every 10 levels for leveling Tome in Natlan with Pyro sigils (total 50 levels, but the current patch max only level 20).
    2. You can get 1 SE when opening each tribe's secret treasure (need a key made out of 3 pieces item from the chest when exploring Natlan, in the current patch there are 3 tribes, and there are 3 more to introduce).
    3. Obviously, you get 1 from the 40 days/2 patch game.
    So, in the current patch, we can get 6 SE.
    Now, for what piece you choose, let me share some advice and experience, (especially if you're a new player, even if you're an end-game player but don't have a good piece):
    1. Goblet: Focus on elemental DMG for your main DPS, there are 2 conditions: 1). If you already have a good goblet - from the right set or from another set - I recommend you don't use SE (I think it worth 2 timepieces). But 2). If you don't have a good goblet, it is worth it to choose a goblet (since you can save about 14k elixir).
    2. Timepiece: Focus on either your main DPS or sub-DPS, there are 2 that are worth considering: ER & EM since their drop percentage is low. 1). ER (mainly for Sub-DPS), I think crit rate & dmg are worth it for many sub-DPS. 2). EM, is usually used for Dendro reaction and can be used by both main DPS or sub-DPS. But, you may watch carefully to choose substat a). Crit rate & damage or b). ER/ATK%/HP%, the decision back to your character. For ATK%, HP%, and DEF%, I think it's not worth it since you can get them in weeks and you can get them from the crafting bench. I don't recommend you spend resin on domains that don't have benefits for many characters, I think some domains are resin efficient, for example in Inazuma (Emblem & Shimenawa), Sumeru (Gilded & Deepwood), Fontaine (Mare & Golden Troupe), and new in Natlan.
    3. Circlet, I really don't recommend this because it costs 3 SE, you select either crit rate or crit damage as your substat and vice versa for the main stat while the other stat is either ATK%/ER/EM/HP% (for EM main stat and 2 crit stat already explained in the video and only use in very specific things so also don't recommend).
    4. (add) For specific characters like Kazuha or Sucrose that need EM in Timepiece, Goblet, and Circlet, you may consider it since the domain is not resin efficient and very gambling from the crafting bench (unless you're lucky like me XD). But, I recommend using it for something else (because you only need 4 pieces for the artifacts stat)
    5. Finally, I advise you to 1). If you're a new player, just enjoy the story and the exploration, don't get rushed on artifacts; 2). If you're an end-game player, please wait for the right time, I mean you only get 1 SE in 40 days, meanwhile, in 40 days you can get around 400 5-star artifacts (5 domains/day) that may drop the piece you want. I personally will save it for later, because maybe in the future there will be some really useful characters, and if the artifact set is not resin efficient, then I will use it. Lastly, it's just a game bro, enjoy other activities, you get nothing when rush (especially when the roll is not crit >:D). Thank you :))

    • @respectfulplayer
      @respectfulplayer 4 месяца назад +1

      do you have to get close to 100% to get the 3 parts of the obsidian ring for a region or is pure RNG?

    • @billycrobus4399
      @billycrobus4399 4 месяца назад +1

      But it's makes 7 SE in 5.0..?
      2 from sigils, 1 from mail, 1 from artifacts and 3 from tribes

    • @weakerthannubs
      @weakerthannubs 4 месяца назад +4

      @@respectfulplayer Pure RNG but, you will 100% those regions anyway for sigils.

    • @lycoreco5154
      @lycoreco5154 4 месяца назад

      It only spawns in precious and luxurious chests. So prioritize those.

    • @LongDeadArtist
      @LongDeadArtist 4 месяца назад

      @@respectfulplayer I'm assuming it's RNG, I got a few of the rings very early on but I didn't get a ton in the early stages of exploration (~20%).

  • @ggwp8615
    @ggwp8615 4 месяца назад +16

    I really hope they start giving 1 each main event same way they do with crowns

  • @Morslord
    @Morslord 4 месяца назад +88

    The System had one purpose: Marketing.
    Make a shiny new system, that everybody wants, so that it get hiped and every RUclipsr makes a video about it.
    But screw it up, like nearly every QoL feature, so that nobody gets an advantage/improvement out of it.

    • @Fulldrag7802
      @Fulldrag7802 4 месяца назад +24

      It’s literally not even considered a QoL “improvement” just another bad RNG system to “fix” the other bad RNG system. Hoyo fkn sucks ass

    • @Mjaaaa24
      @Mjaaaa24 4 месяца назад +13

      @@Fulldrag7802 More like Genshin sucks ass, the other 3 games aren't this shitty honestly, What a pain. This is why every hype qol i dont get excited anymore i know they will mess it up lol.

    • @choochoo3041
      @choochoo3041 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@Mjaaaa24Well Said.

    • @therrogue1193
      @therrogue1193 4 месяца назад

      ​@@Mjaaaa24 lmao both of other game is even worse because you can't even use fucking off pieces and HSR still only chose the main stat and rng substat. Stfu

    • @Jose-or3hq
      @Jose-or3hq 4 месяца назад +5

      Another reason to not come back to this game again. They really treat players so badly in genshin, well ig im not surprise.

  • @fanfeueyrie
    @fanfeueyrie 4 месяца назад +280

    >be Mihoyo
    >makes a QoL that makes artifact have a certain main stat and 2 substats
    >nice
    >the last 2 hidden stats are def flat and def%
    >you leveled up this artifact to +20
    >all went to def flat
    >????
    >NICE

    • @JerryMouse.
      @JerryMouse. 4 месяца назад +15

      just get lucky I guess.

    • @Asm0sday
      @Asm0sday 4 месяца назад +5

      Me when I found out artifact was always rng in every game :
      The only problem is it hard to get the elixer

    • @karna5687
      @karna5687 4 месяца назад +13

      but if we dont have this update ..... as per the vids calculations, you need a year's grind to get 1 elemental goblet with double crit on the correct artifact set .. now imagine that rolling that out all into flat def ..
      with this update, at least for a year, you have 4 chances of rolling your correct set double crit elemental goblets to flat def/hp - compared to just 1 chance without this update

    • @ninongfons
      @ninongfons 4 месяца назад +8

      Make it worse, it rolls flat def and flat hp, then it rolls into both so that it can't be used even by def scaling characters

    • @Fulldrag7802
      @Fulldrag7802 4 месяца назад

      If they give domains a buff it would decrease the literal years people spend in them but nooooo we want our game to be grindy asf and take literal YEARS bc of RNG. Fk off Hoyo

  • @suhaan960
    @suhaan960 4 месяца назад +288

    i already messed up i fear....

    • @HanmaHeiro
      @HanmaHeiro 4 месяца назад +4

      Did you get a feather?

    • @OC_
      @OC_ 4 месяца назад +49

      You learned the hard way I see

    • @0rokuSaki
      @0rokuSaki 4 месяца назад +82

      Bro got a double crit flower and it rolled all flat stats 😆

    • @RazyKlaf
      @RazyKlaf 4 месяца назад +6

      Well you're still not messed up as people who'll start in future so just don't do it again

    • @RazyKlaf
      @RazyKlaf 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@0rokuSakiflower only costs one if it costs same amount as goblet yes that's so bad to do but that's not the case

  • @andreespina9747
    @andreespina9747 4 месяца назад +16

    They still should at least put 4 in the free battle pass and 8 in the premium so we get like one artifact per patch. Also I think they should remove the limit on extraction cuz it's not like we can make them in an instant, still takes lots of effort (failed artifacts) to get to a point to make 4 elixirs

  • @meph2806
    @meph2806 4 месяца назад +55

    "Hoyoverse know what they are doing in terms of rewards and time spent" What? Are you kidding? Yeah, they know how to spit in our face with their "rewards and time spent". That's the most L take I've heard from IWtL

    • @Forakus
      @Forakus 4 месяца назад

      You just don't understand probabilities

    • @JM_Tushe
      @JM_Tushe 4 месяца назад +13

      You don't need probabilities to know this is a shitty feature
      adding a piece type selection to the mystic offering would've been way better ​@@Forakus

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад +3

      100% agree, he was pretty dishonest and licking their ass to make damage control with this video. And its not something im ok with.

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Forakus probabilities means shit unless you're lucky as fuck.
      you could have the ability chose 4 stats out of 4 and still get a shitty artifacts because every roll will be in a different stat.
      You as well as iwtlg are behing dishonest, because you know VERY WELL this system will do shit, unless those few people with broken luck.

    • @meph2806
      @meph2806 4 месяца назад +4

      @@Forakus bro when the hell did I say anything about probabilities? It doesn't change anything. Also, I have actually taught stochastics and probability at university, so I do, in fact, most likely know more about it than you.💀

  • @Enric.
    @Enric. 4 месяца назад +23

    4:16 there's an important mistake in these statistics, dendro goblets are not included! so chances of getting other sorts of goblets are now lower.

    • @rcisneros8567
      @rcisneros8567 4 месяца назад +1

      You are correct.

    • @ferend4038
      @ferend4038 4 месяца назад +4

      Chances a lowered only for atk/hp/def%. Also if you looked closely chances are still right. Dendro gob is just not shown

    • @SuperKlode
      @SuperKlode 4 месяца назад

      Good catch 😊

    • @Patatah_deLUX
      @Patatah_deLUX 4 месяца назад +1

      if you add everything its 95% max, so the calcs are right, he just missed dendro in the table xD

  • @therealgeoarchon
    @therealgeoarchon 4 месяца назад +152

    If only they made it like the parametric transmuter but instead you feed it any 5 star arti

  • @CrisProGameZelda
    @CrisProGameZelda 4 месяца назад +35

    I've already used this feature to create a feather (as an experimental test) for Emilie. And guess what? At level 0, I got HP% as the third stat, and then I got flat defense as the fourth stat by raising it to level 4... But it doesn't end there. In the end, after raising it to level 20, it ended up with a crit rate role, a crit dmg role, and 3 flat def roles. So yes, it's very disappointing the new feature, so don't get your hopes up too much even if you plan to save quite a few bottles.

    • @MrGoodra17
      @MrGoodra17 4 месяца назад +2

      Well, expecting it to only roll on crit stats is delusional. Just be happy you can remove 3 layers of rng

    • @CrisProGameZelda
      @CrisProGameZelda 4 месяца назад +4

      @@MrGoodra17 Yeah, but even if on paper sounds good for all the time it saves (at least, from the IWtL calculations), even if you save like an entire year of resin, it can be wasted by a bad roles when upgrading. So yeah, still not a good/efficient way to improve your current builds. I think is better to use relicary function than destroying a lot of artifacts to get one bottle per month.

    • @theskywalker8416
      @theskywalker8416 4 месяца назад

      @@CrisProGameZelda bro, your problem is you only look at the unlucky side. Everyone knows how that feel to get a good piece just to roll all in flat def ,remember everyone also has good piece with god tier rolls too.
      I started to play in 1/1/2024 which mean its only 9months for me. I got great Dendro, Cryo, Geo and Anemo goblets but none Pyro, Hydro and i still think Electro goblets doesnt exist . My DPS are Neuvillette, Arlec and Clorinde which mean all the good goblets are useless (for now).
      This system literally allow me to complete the other 3 goblets i need. When that happens, i dont need to farm goblet anymore. Im sure old players have at least a dozen of good pieces, they just need to fill out sub DPS

    • @MrGoodra17
      @MrGoodra17 4 месяца назад

      @@CrisProGameZelda For mine I actually fed it potentially good artifacts screwed by rng so I didn't lose that much, plus there are and will most likely be more ways to obtain elixirs. So it's only bad at first glance imo and I still prefer this to the hsr one where it's only really useful for support pieces, like speed boots or cd bodies.

    • @CrisProGameZelda
      @CrisProGameZelda 4 месяца назад +3

      @@MrGoodra17 Just consider that even if you get 16 bottles for free, there's another restriction that allows you to create just one piece of every artifact set per version (6 weeks). So even if you can create 4 goblets, those should be from different artifacts sets unless you wait patiently 6 weeks to bring one by one of the same artifact set. That means you have to wait at least 6 months to get 4 pieces of one artifact set, and even with double crit subs, still is highly probably to role on mediocre subs at the end. So, not really a good improvement from the current grind tbh.

  • @Joe_Joe1203
    @Joe_Joe1203 4 месяца назад +25

    CN players do your thing

    • @cr1ym
      @cr1ym 4 месяца назад

      they need to riot and then hoyo will give us 20 elixers as an apology

  • @napalmbukakke
    @napalmbukakke Месяц назад +1

    Good video! I'd add that for characters who want to maximize EM, besides kazuha and nahida, theres sucrose who shares 20% of her EM with the team, and also characters who can act as hyperbloom/burgeon triggers on teams where you build that specifically. So kuki, raiden, thoma are all good to stack EM on specific comps.
    Theres possibly other characters too who I'm just not familiar with enough to say, like heizou, cyno, sayu, alhaitam

  • @frishter
    @frishter 4 месяца назад +7

    It's better than not having it all, but I think the system could be a lot better.
    Some ideas that I think would be better:
    Goblets cost 3 elixir
    2 elixir in free BP, 2 in paid
    3 Obtainable through gameplay per patch
    Have events sometimes give them
    4 Stats by default or let us use an elixir on any artifact to guarantee a boost to a stat (which would still be costly with up to 5 per artifact which honestly I don't think would be broken especially if they keep similar rates of obtaining them)
    Another thing they could do is have us use an elixir to change the main stat of an artifact which would make those double crit healing bonus circlets feel better.

    • @Lolic0nz
      @Lolic0nz 4 месяца назад

      Lol NGL changing main stat would be broken

  • @Kolbitar-p3y
    @Kolbitar-p3y 4 месяца назад +20

    10:06 when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail... Your hammer is coding apparently...

  • @ashphoenix3507
    @ashphoenix3507 4 месяца назад +31

    A little correction.. We get 3 from exploration. So add 2 more in the calcs

    • @cynicalmandate
      @cynicalmandate 4 месяца назад +11

      exploration is one-time only

    • @tvemilosti2288
      @tvemilosti2288 4 месяца назад +8

      @@cynicalmandate i mean he write it down on his sheet that we only get 1 from exploration.. so he has to correct it from 1 to 3

    • @glory_m99
      @glory_m99 4 месяца назад +1

      @@cynicalmandate it is most likely every new map will have 3/5 so it's not really one-time only thing

    • @theskywalker8416
      @theskywalker8416 4 месяца назад

      6 tribes so 6 in total but we can only get 3 now

    • @OleksandrSlepnov
      @OleksandrSlepnov 4 месяца назад +4

      Calc is short for calculator btw they're just using slang you guys

  • @alfredxsiv
    @alfredxsiv 4 месяца назад +5

    13:27 You can obtain more from overworld, each tribe can give 1 elixir, so rn we have 3 in the overworld, but obviously there are a total of 6tribes so it's expected to be 6 once future patches drops

  • @zither3416
    @zither3416 4 месяца назад +2

    Note for newer players: I wouldnt recommend decide whichever one to craft just based on the resin/elixer. Since we only need 4-set and can have 1 off-set, people usually take the hardest one to find, i.e. double crit elemental dmg goblet as off-set (which is much more likely to obtain a good one across ALL sets).
    So if you want to push to the extreme of your character, sure you can pick double crit elemental dmg goblet, but for newer players that need more characters to be built as usable, crafting on-set circlet or timepiece could also be suitable.
    For me personally, my c2 nahida, I would use an offset EM+double crit Dendro goblet, and craft an onset double crit EM time piece (which takes FOREVER to get). The rest: flower (EM+double crit), feather (EM+double crit), and crit damage circlet (with EM+CR) are fairly easier to obtain onset by looking at the expectation runs.

  • @jordanbroom5955
    @jordanbroom5955 4 месяца назад

    Pretty sure this will be a long-term underrated video with the addition of the elixir system. Good on you, sir.

  • @jlester163
    @jlester163 4 месяца назад +40

    Made a flower
    Crimson witch
    Picked crit rate and damage
    3rd stat was atk%
    Lvl up 4th stat is hp%
    Biggest upgrade hutao had in 3 years 🎉
    Edit:
    Lvl 8 and 12 went to crit dmg
    Lvl 16 and 20 went to hp%
    3.1% crit rate
    14% crit damage
    10.5 atk%
    16.9% hp
    Idk for you if its mid or not but the fact it doesn't have def% is a HUGE upgrade for me

    • @sheikhgamer007
      @sheikhgamer007 4 месяца назад +2

      and 20??

    • @ExpressoPie
      @ExpressoPie 4 месяца назад +3

      What was the 20

    • @Erksah02
      @Erksah02 4 месяца назад +5

      @@jlester163 the fact you can get 3 substat artifacts is just dumb

    • @Hiken_Bakuzan
      @Hiken_Bakuzan 4 месяца назад +16

      @@Erksah02 oh rofl, so its not guaranteed to start with 4 stats?
      that's just so dogshit

    • @Erksah02
      @Erksah02 4 месяца назад

      @@Hiken_Bakuzan I'm not 100% sure but that seems to be the case

  • @AnonymousInternetUserLaine
    @AnonymousInternetUserLaine 4 месяца назад +4

    To clarify, the areas in Natlan where you can collect a Sanctifying Elixir for free all require you to collect three colored obsidian fragments to assemble a tribal bracelet (currently Yellow, Green, and Azure). Once assembled you can enter each tribe's Secret Space there will be a Sanctifying Elixir and five golden artifacts of both new sets.
    It's safe to say that more will be available in later patches

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад +5

      that changes nothing.
      its still a shitty system, even if they gave us 10 x patch because the delay on crafting them its absurdly long.
      rolling artifact is the REAL hard part of getting decent one, not finding them.

    • @hitsurei
      @hitsurei 4 месяца назад

      @WastedTalent83 yeah i have so many double cr crdmg sub stats, but the hardest part is actually got them increased, not getting them.
      almost 4 years of playing, and i only have two goblet that have 14%crit rate, 14% crit damage.
      That is why I resort to just single good value, like 16% crit rate, or 32% crit damage for the rest

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад

      @@hitsurei if only people understood that i don't talk out of my ass, i just talk about experience, and on these things i can never be wrong because i experienced it for YEARS. but they stll defend these shitty addiction without getting that mihoyo is just making fun of people.

    • @zainspierrot7075
      @zainspierrot7075 4 месяца назад

      Are You sure they Will give us 4 elixir per patch? Hahahaha we wait for them 😂😂😂

  • @paybacktime3367
    @paybacktime3367 4 месяца назад +19

    I don't know how much this would affect the chart calculations but Dendro DMG is missing from the Goblet stats.

    • @ike4nole753
      @ike4nole753 4 месяца назад

      yeah i just pointed out too but I'm not sure

    • @thorn_again
      @thorn_again 4 месяца назад +1

      It'll be the same as the other ones like cryo, pyro, etc.

    • @Damoney125
      @Damoney125 4 месяца назад +4

      @@thorn_again I think it does change the chart I'm just not sure how. All the main stat percentages on the left have add up to 100%. So if you add another stat roll; one or some or all the others % chance have to go down until it equals 100%

    • @abraham135790
      @abraham135790 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Damoney125I don't know how you do math but main stats add up to 95,1. So the 5% dendro goblet is just missing in the chart.

    • @Damoney125
      @Damoney125 4 месяца назад +1

      @@abraham135790 Oh you're right, the its just missing off the chart then

  • @MidgarMerc
    @MidgarMerc 4 месяца назад +2

    The fact these can still roll 100% into defense means its like trying to fix a broken arm with a band aid

  • @AwolRemains
    @AwolRemains 4 месяца назад +4

    you get 3 more elixirs overworld but they're extremely cumbersome to collect basically run around and open every single precious and luxurious chests to randomly obtain 3 ring fragments for each tribe then you can craft them into the rings to unlock special rooms inside/near the tribes

    • @cherish_xo
      @cherish_xo 4 месяца назад

      Can we find those at our own pace? They're not time-limited, right?

    • @AwolRemains
      @AwolRemains 4 месяца назад +1

      @@cherish_xo well yeah you can do that, but it will take a long time if youre not actively opening every single chest in the region, i got most of the places to 75-80% completion before getting the elixirs, and as far as i know they aren't time gated

    • @cherish_xo
      @cherish_xo 4 месяца назад

      @@AwolRemains I'm currently at 50-60% on most parts of Natlan but I'm just a casual explorer. If it's not time-gated then I'm glad^^

  • @antares-the-one
    @antares-the-one 4 месяца назад +6

    this is pure insanity. We get absolutely scarce rare resource which is elixir and still we need to grind a ridiculous amount of time to use that which doesn't make any sense. It is just to make the game to be hard for a sake of being hard.

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад +6

      man, its just a scam, and idiots fall for it, its that simple.
      this is a very dishonest company it has always be and always will be, i stopped giving them any money months ago.
      Because i really could see no hope anymore.
      THIS was the chance for the to show that genshin CAN actually care about players, but they decided to spit in our face instead.

  • @ibrahim5463
    @ibrahim5463 4 месяца назад +4

    The new fuction that shows location of local specialty is a better qol than the artifact creator, HOW?

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад

      simple , because a nice little positive thing. HEAVILY outwaight a scam system made to make player come back just to be kicked in the balls -.-

  • @antoineaublin3812
    @antoineaublin3812 4 месяца назад +1

    its important to notice that, bc you can have one off-piece, picking goblet isnt always the best choice at all.
    Say you have good on piece flower, feather, and circlet. You're lacking good options on ur timepiece and goblet as far as on piece go (typically, you'll have a kinda bad timepiece and awful goblet).
    However, lets say you have very good off pieces for both goblet and timepiece (which is a very common situation in my experience).
    In this situation, you could just create a good timepiece with the artifact transmuter, and use an off piece goblet. It might be just as good as transmuting a goblet and using an off piece sands.
    ==> The main advantage in this scenario is that your timepiece would cost you half the elixir that the goblet is costing you.
    If we didnt have offpieces (like in hsr for example), then yes, picking goblet almost everytime would be correct. But not in genshin !

  • @lisitchkajojo
    @lisitchkajojo 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the video and analysis! After months of farming I still haven’t been able to get a Shimenawa crit dmg circlet so this new system is a godsend for me.

  • @vince77-z27
    @vince77-z27 4 месяца назад +35

    Uh huh, 4 Patches to get one Goblet, and not even any guarantee to roll to your desired stats
    Genshin Could Never

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 4 месяца назад +6

      It's not 4 patches if you get 4 for free

    • @renno2679
      @renno2679 4 месяца назад +1

      The chances for double crit dmg goblets is already cringe. i probably have like two good ones, the rest just have one crit and atk%. This makes is actually possible to guarantee those substats. The rest is up to rng. And besides, at that point, your other pieces should be amazing enough to not matter...

    • @sarenlover6624
      @sarenlover6624 4 месяца назад +2

      tell me you dont play the game bro
      i already got 6 ☠

    • @vince77-z27
      @vince77-z27 4 месяца назад +13

      @@sarenlover6624 tell me you dont play the game lil bro, 42 days craft cycle with no roll guarantee
      sunk cost fallacy victim spotted

    • @sarenlover6624
      @sarenlover6624 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@vince77-z27 there are more than one way to obtain it, genius
      🤦‍♂

  • @Doi4in
    @Doi4in 4 месяца назад +3

    They should remove the 1 elixir per patch restriction or at least make it 2 per patch.

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад

      and what would that change? rolling artifact is still shit.
      even if they give us 20 x patch , the change to get a very good artifact are still low AF

    • @Doi4in
      @Doi4in 4 месяца назад

      @@WastedTalent83 Nah, these obviously should be used on goblets or in some rare cases, sands. Getting double crit pieces alone the usual way is too much trouble and rng still. Getting a guaranteed on set elemental goblet with double crit is already a massive improvement that removes a layer of rng from the game. It may not roll how you want it to roll in the end, but couple of rolls into crit (which is not particularly unlikely) and you're likely to get an upgrade. Removing the cap per patch would be absolutely godsend while farming the new artifact domain.

  • @Martin-li7xb
    @Martin-li7xb 4 месяца назад +16

    i usually dont like videos (i have maybe 6 liked in total) but after hearing you spend an hour coding just to have estimated the correct percentage.. your dedication is unmatched. THANK YOU IWINTOLOSE😭

    • @darkkforce
      @darkkforce 4 месяца назад

      any buffon can do this tbh. chatgpt exists.

  • @danhussano
    @danhussano 4 месяца назад +1

    I preffer at this time crafting time pieces because if you have played since release you have higher chances to have decent off set goblet pieces

  • @DJKrisyKrisdude
    @DJKrisyKrisdude 3 месяца назад

    I'm so glad you mentioned Nahida because that is quite literally exactly what I wanted to do, but wasn't sure if I wanted double crit so I set out to see if it actually was worth going for

  • @xShikari
    @xShikari 4 месяца назад +28

    The worst of it all is that Hoyo is "praised" for it.
    This is not enough!

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад

      well.. when you have a army of people lickeing their ass and streamer, its easy to imagine this outcome really...
      Instead of criticizing a company in the hope that they will do better, they get compliment for shitting in your face.. go figure.

  • @ASerokai
    @ASerokai 4 месяца назад +3

    6:17 Wait, in this chart right here, I don't seem to see the Dendro DMG Goblet inside the spreadsheet?

  • @Bruna_Araujo705
    @Bruna_Araujo705 4 месяца назад +50

    He uploading literally 1 minute AFTER i just made my artefact.....😅

    • @sheikhgamer007
      @sheikhgamer007 4 месяца назад +2

      what you get???

    • @Bruna_Araujo705
      @Bruna_Araujo705 4 месяца назад +22

      @@sheikhgamer007 i got a hydro dmg goblet with crit rate and crit dmg. It rolled twice in crit rate, once in crit dmg and once in defense. Pretty good if u ask me 😋🙂‍↕️

    • @sheikhgamer007
      @sheikhgamer007 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Bruna_Araujo705 how do you get 4 elixir??

    • @SenpaiKizuite
      @SenpaiKizuite 4 месяца назад

      @@Bruna_Araujo705for an onset goblet, that is a very good result

    • @DirecDelta
      @DirecDelta 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Bruna_Araujo705 Nice work!

  • @superherofan9425
    @superherofan9425 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much for the vid! I got my first goblet already, the pyro one I have been chasing for over a year now, and thankfully it rolled pretty well (42 cv with attack%) so I can now focus on some other pieces that have been dodging me for a while now once I get more of the tokens. I am thinking an EM sands for my Haitham, assuming I don't get one directly from the domain at some point. Glhf out there and may all your artis from this crafter roll well!

  • @skyhart9926
    @skyhart9926 4 месяца назад +2

    1:54 why no Level 8? hoyoverse at it again. hidden sus agenda. why would they have to skip Level 8 when they know (and we know) that artifact subrolls happen every 4 levels. Let’s see what Genshin stans say.
    Level 8 should be what Level 12 is, and adjust the rest accordingly.

  • @riamcade6170
    @riamcade6170 4 месяца назад +8

    Another piece of advice on using the Sanctifying Elixirs: don't use them on a set you haven't farmed for at least 2 months, because after 2 months, you begin seeing dimishing returns for most artifact sets The odds of getting a double crit goblet (or anything else) is the same throughout the whole process, so you should wait until you've gotten all of your other pieces before getting the one you need from the Elixir. If after 2 months you don't gave a good goblet, then use the elixir.

    • @Ayzev
      @Ayzev 4 месяца назад +1

      What do the 2 months matter? Just get the cup once you have everything else, save the elixir when you don't

  • @TheGwilwileth
    @TheGwilwileth 4 месяца назад +5

    Saving my elixirs for now. The system is not supposed to replace farming…just make it a bit easier to get very specific artifacts sometimes. I’m fine with it 😊

  • @thealchemist5541
    @thealchemist5541 4 месяца назад +19

    The good: There is none
    The bad: Its completely useless

    • @clashcon11
      @clashcon11 4 месяца назад

      Not really, finally I'm able to build my EM Nahida with it.

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад

      not really...
      The bad, is that not only its useless, its also insulting to players who thought that FOR ONCE mihoyo would have done something nice for the players.
      Getting people hope up just to kick them in the ball, is much worse than "useless"

    • @cr1ym
      @cr1ym 4 месяца назад +1

      listen it's scuffed, but far from useless. I've been playing for a more than a year and I still don't have a single good double crit electro, anemo, dendro, hydro, or pyro goblet

    • @thealchemist5541
      @thealchemist5541 4 месяца назад

      @@cr1ym and you still wont have one, because the subs will roll terribly

  • @Phyzzl
    @Phyzzl 4 месяца назад +1

    I personally think all artifacts should start out to cost one sanctifying elixir. With the option to choose if you want to focus substats which would increase the cost to two. HSR has this already and it only cost one for every relic you could get.

  • @jaguh9069
    @jaguh9069 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm gonna use it for my sand. Goblet are usually off piece anyway so in my experience sands is the hardest piece to get.
    Plus its cost is half than a goblet.

  • @Isshin007
    @Isshin007 4 месяца назад +16

    I swear to god they hyped us in the livestream about this thing, just later to discover that it has so much annoying and unnecessary limitation
    Like you can only make one artifact of a specific set in 1 Cycle, or that it will take you couple of months just to craft a Goblet?
    What a disappointment.

    • @itscactyy
      @itscactyy 4 месяца назад

      Figured they'd kneecap us somehow. Keep us mining away in domains and spending our resin and spending our primos to refill our resin and spending our money to refill our primos.

    • @papiertoilette-pb9lf
      @papiertoilette-pb9lf 4 месяца назад +6

      Nice y'all just discover how that works in star rail except you can't craft anything and choose any substats in it, it is hype, you are just delusional for thinking you would get every perfect artefact in 2 weeks... (And btw it will probably be in some event just like star rail so it's not bad at all)

    • @Violet-0
      @Violet-0 4 месяца назад +2

      I’d assume you play HSR, now picture the self modeling resin of the 2-4 we get PER PATCH, 40 days as well. selectors in HSR is also super limited and will average out for a player getting one good relic because these things are never guaranteed and always has been limited…

    • @papiertoilette-pb9lf
      @papiertoilette-pb9lf 4 месяца назад

      @@Violet-0 so you assume we get 0 with the new event in genshin ? They will let us with 1 every 40 days even tho they already did have them by exploration and more ? Crazy... I will take genshin everyday especially since you have something, modeling resin is only here to have a somewhat okay set for the time you farmed when a character release, i have 8 of them and they serve no other purpose for now

    • @LongDeadArtist
      @LongDeadArtist 4 месяца назад

      @@papiertoilette-pb9lf HSR has the clock things available in permanent methods, and you don't NEED them to make relics. You can make as many as you want, they just personalize the main stat. Genshin limits the amount you can make so much, for NO reason! If that clock is the only way you can use those dead relics, people would complain in HSR too! But it's not limited. But both have bad systems to be honest.

  • @Elhant
    @Elhant 4 месяца назад +11

    6:58 This. This is EXACTLY why i quit this game. And why i quit WuWa too. I want to use my characters, have them built and used freely according to situations without the artifact tetris every time my team changes.

    • @vadstart
      @vadstart 4 месяца назад

      Agreed. Genshin's stat system and grind are the worst part of the game and the reason why I only log in to do new Main Story quests nowadays, with my old characters.

    • @V3rdad3s0br3tudo
      @V3rdad3s0br3tudo 4 месяца назад +1

      I play Genshin 4years and I use bug for up my artifacts 😂😂😂

    • @DeJaVu804
      @DeJaVu804 4 месяца назад +4

      At least In wuwa you can swap echoes and weapons in TOA. With only 3 characters per team. Making it way easier to build teams. Genshins new end game req 18 characters lvl 70 and all of them need their own weapon and artifacts. What a joke. Even though I can clear it and 36 star abyss it's still a dog end game system.

  • @linaquiet4606
    @linaquiet4606 4 месяца назад +8

    Super limited sugar coated system. Yes, you might get some from grinding the whole new region, but after that... 👴

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад

      they are just dishonest, same as the guy who made this video.

  • @ondrejvasak1054
    @ondrejvasak1054 4 месяца назад +1

    The table with the resin costs is nice, but it doesn't actually take into account several things. First, you need 4 items to get a set bonus, but you have 5 artifact slots. So you don't actually need to farm a goblet from an actual set, you can just use any old gladiator for that. Second thing it doesn't take into account is how many characters actually need that specific type of artifact. There aren't many characters in game that need elemental mastery goblet or healing power circlet. So these are really hard to drop, but with so few characters needing them you'll probably get enough of them just by farming other artefacts. And the same is true for specific goblet with specific element. Yes, almost all characters use an elemental goblet, but with 8 elements to choose from only 1/8 of that number need fire element. So in most cases, I think the circlet will probably be more of a bottleneck than elemental damage goblets, since many characters use crit rate of crit damage circlets. I think in majority of cases, it will be easier to slap a random non set goblet with fire damage on the character and use the converter to get a great circlet for 3 elixirs, than using a non set circlet and converting goblet for 4 elixirs.
    Try running the algorithm again, but instead of calculating the chances to drop one specific artifact piece, calculate that you have 20 characters. You want 3 fire element goblets, 3 ice element goblets..., 1 elemental mastery goblet, 1 HP goblet, 10 crit chance circlets and 8 crit damage circlets, one healing power circlet, one EM circlet etc. This is just an ad hoc example, but this will give you much closer estimate of the value for the converter. Unless of course you want to play the whole Genshin game with just one character.
    The best way to use the converter is probably just to get what you actually need, not whatever is harder to drop percentage wise.

  • @dannypeixoto8435
    @dannypeixoto8435 3 месяца назад

    thanks so much for crunching the numbers man! wow im impressed. Ive been terrified to use these since ive gotten them. Gonna send it and spend it all on Xilonen! Much appreciated

  • @belz6058
    @belz6058 4 месяца назад +33

    People saying "It's not as bad as people make it out to be" is just sad, they are so used to gobble the slop that hoyo throws at them that they don't realize the company doesn't respect your time, they expect you to play for months to craft 2 or 3 artifacts.
    They should get rid of the one elixir per patch cap because you can only use the transmuter so many times before you run out of resources , resin is limited and you can craft one artifact per set each patch anyways.

    • @pontoancora
      @pontoancora 4 месяца назад +3

      Sure it can be better, but your argument is harsher than it should.
      This is a incredible system, just need some adjustments.
      One single change in the time limit, or just put the item on the starglitter/stardust store, or just give it more often etc etc.
      All of this really easy to adjust. We cant ignore that now we can cut a huge part of the rng tied to artifacts. We just need more of it.

    • @emmabeloro3619
      @emmabeloro3619 4 месяца назад +2

      I despise this community for that mere reason, they can eat w/e shit hoyo throws at them, that's why this game can't have nice things they're always happy with the minimum.

    • @dominustempus8969
      @dominustempus8969 4 месяца назад

      ​@@pontoancoraUntil they adjust the time limit, this system just sucks a*s

    • @pontoancora
      @pontoancora 4 месяца назад +1

      @@dominustempus8969 it still better than before. How that is so hard to understand?

    • @dominustempus8969
      @dominustempus8969 4 месяца назад

      @@pontoancora How is it better if i have to wait months for a goblet that could still roll all into flat def. With the time limit it's barely better. Almost negligible.

  • @-MCMLXXII-
    @-MCMLXXII- 4 месяца назад +23

    I saw a guy talking about this yesterday, and half the things he said were either fuck or shit.
    I think he was unhappy, overall.

    • @JM_Tushe
      @JM_Tushe 4 месяца назад

      Talking the truth

    • @-MCMLXXII-
      @-MCMLXXII- 4 месяца назад +1

      @JM_Tushe I didn't say he was WRONG - just ... disappointed. Like, VERY disappointed.

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад +1

      the fact that anyone can be happy with this system is disgusting in the first place...

    • @-MCMLXXII-
      @-MCMLXXII- 4 месяца назад

      @@WastedTalent83 Does it save a lot of potential farming? Yes.
      Is it great otherwise? No. Not remotely satisfying.
      We all agree on this, but we aren't all throwing tantrums on RUclips about it. Constructive criticism doesn't need to come in the form of nine minute long strings of profanity.
      It obviously can, though.

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад

      @@-MCMLXXII- so in your opinion.. stating facts, is a tantrum.. a weird take on it but sure, call it like that if you like. Also i see many people agree with me so are you sure its a tantrum? or you just wanted to look like a warrior of justice?

  • @InmateOmighty
    @InmateOmighty 4 месяца назад +13

    4:53 ONE HUNDRED RUNS???? WHAT IS THIS GAME 😭😭😭

    • @albertotensai
      @albertotensai 4 месяца назад +9

      It’s Hell, my boy. Pure Hell.

    • @pontoancora
      @pontoancora 4 месяца назад +2

      That's 10 days, not that much.

    • @cr1ym
      @cr1ym 4 месяца назад +1

      lol I've been playing for 1 year and a half. 205 resin/day times 547 days = ~112000 resin = 5,600 runs. All this shit and I don't have a single double crit dendro, electro, pyro, hydro, or anemo goblet.

    • @pontoancora
      @pontoancora 4 месяца назад

      @@cr1ym please, you spend resin in other stuff

  • @lumbayubay
    @lumbayubay 7 дней назад

    i have stumbled upon videos on this channel before but this is the first time i have purposely searched. wow. heavy info. and for that, i am subscribing. 🎉

  • @kasiawlazo6238
    @kasiawlazo6238 3 месяца назад

    13:27 you can actually get 3 elixirs from exploration so far, for each clan in Natlan through exploitation you get pieces of obsidian bands and each of those obsidian bands opens a hidden cave in each clan with a bunch of 5-star artifacts and 1 elixir

  • @kraithus
    @kraithus 4 месяца назад +4

    09:31 This is how I too prefer to use my coding skills 🗿

  • @xendell154
    @xendell154 4 месяца назад +6

    As a long time player with some 30-40cv elemental goblets, I will only use this item for two things:
    - Sands for older characters whose crit ratio I want to adjust, which cost only 2 elixir
    - Feather or flower of the new set for newer Natlan chars if I want to make them perform well quickly. Personally hoping that Mavuika will be Pyro off fielder and now I am farming her sub DPS set. I will only craft the double crit pieces when she is out, so I can consider which piece I should craft. If the remaining piece I haven't got is feather and I already got 30 cv sands and at least 20 cv substat circlet, then so be it, Imma craft double crit feather. It costs 1 elixir anyway
    As for circlet, you can only get 1 crit substat since 1 is already on mainstat, so it's easier to screw up upon level up. The risk is too high for 3 elixir, unless it's for characters that use set that gives lots of crit rate like MH, Blizzard strayer or Natlan new DPS set.
    I've got 30-40 cv goblets on each element, so I won't risk 4 elixir just to get 20 cv double crit goblets lol

    • @Kemuell_Mabuen
      @Kemuell_Mabuen 4 месяца назад

      I'm probably just going to hoard them like I did with crowns for a while. I'm now down to 3 or so crowns but I had a bunch just sitting around until recently.
      I see myself just holding the elixers until I have 20+
      My goblets are crap but I still want to hold out...
      Still only got 2 pyro goblets with any crit on my entire account (1 isn't even double crit and is on my Yoimiya).
      I agree with the sands part. Makes a lot of sense vs. circlets.

  • @desrtsku
    @desrtsku 4 месяца назад +9

    Using it on goblets is borderline crazy, I believe (unless you're a battle pass user).
    Just use it to complete the rest of the set and off piece the goblets.

    • @Asm0sday
      @Asm0sday 4 месяца назад +9

      Depend,have super good off set cirlet /sand?go for goblet, have decent ofd set goblet? Go for sand/cirlet

    • @oh-noe
      @oh-noe 4 месяца назад +1

      I have so many characters that I don’t really have any good off piece goblets left though. Meanwhile I have plenty of good off piece sands and such

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 4 месяца назад +2

      That's the fakest take ever. You just saw a video explaining why its so bad

    • @QuinquetPourpre
      @QuinquetPourpre 4 месяца назад

      Just use your off piece for something else ?

    • @desrtsku
      @desrtsku 4 месяца назад +4

      @@lafeechloe6998 Nah, the thing is you'll easily screw up your goblet with bad rolls and you wish you used them on multiple sands/circlets instead instead.

  • @CaelusXFirefly69
    @CaelusXFirefly69 4 месяца назад +1

    I wish that the sanctifying elixir will be given as a reward for major events and shop reset and bp pass the free one. Like seriously 1 for a whole patch?. I can't even get the one from bp without unlocking the premium one unlike in hsr. sure sanctifying elixir gives the sub stat as well but still.

  • @ghastlyglint190
    @ghastlyglint190 4 месяца назад

    there are at least 3 in exploration if you open up the areas with the obsidian rings, you will also get a decent amount of 5 star artifacts per ring area opened

  • @craigmorris6156
    @craigmorris6156 4 месяца назад +4

    You can get 6 from exploration, if its any indication, every single tribe has special fragments which you can get 3 of. you can craft 3 of these fragments into a key to enter a special room that has 10 5 star artifacts and 1 sanctifying elixir. I just got 2 from these rooms (hydro and geo tribe), and currently trying to get the dendro tribe's elixir next. Not sure what the 1 elixir you're referring to is, but its definitely more than that as of this patch

    • @vincenttanshiqiang9556
      @vincenttanshiqiang9556 4 месяца назад

      What the heck is this? Do we have to complete the archon quest first?

    • @niceguy712
      @niceguy712 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@vincenttanshiqiang9556no, see your bag if you have one of the fragments because you can get it randomly by opening a precious or luxurious chest

    • @niceguy712
      @niceguy712 4 месяца назад

      I don't think so, there's only 4 total of them from the exploration
      2 is from the anniversary and craftable

    • @craigmorris6156
      @craigmorris6156 4 месяца назад

      @@vincenttanshiqiang9556 dont think so, you get these fragments by opening precious and luxurius chests in the areas where the tribes are located. search "azure/yellow/green obsidian ring genshin"

    • @niceguy712
      @niceguy712 4 месяца назад

      ​@@vincenttanshiqiang9556I believe no

  • @anonimus370
    @anonimus370 4 месяца назад +13

    "hoyoverse knows what they're doing in terms of rewards" This man has gone insane from huffing too much copium. Call an ambulance.

    • @6MinutesLothar
      @6MinutesLothar 4 месяца назад

      Now that's how a cancerous gacha player acted as a bootlicker.

    • @alexleon5292
      @alexleon5292 4 месяца назад +1

      I find it funny how these people are crying over an improvement 😂, meta slaves, just run decent artifacts heck it can be 50 crit rate and 160 crit dmg with a crit weapon and it can work well. As long as you have a good team comp with good talent levels you can easily 36 star abyss. Just takes time.

  • @bila4402
    @bila4402 4 месяца назад +5

    I got a 48 cv atk sands for scara I don’t believe it but got lucky ig

    • @datualiomar3333
      @datualiomar3333 4 месяца назад

      What stats of 48cv? How much crit rate , crit damage stats

    • @datualiomar3333
      @datualiomar3333 4 месяца назад +1

      Ex. I had er crit rate 7.5% , crit damage 28% how much cv is this?

    • @ExpressoPie
      @ExpressoPie 4 месяца назад

      @@datualiomar3333that would be 43 cv

    • @bila4402
      @bila4402 4 месяца назад

      @@datualiomar3333 basically cr × 2 + cd
      7.5×2+28=43

    • @bila4402
      @bila4402 4 месяца назад +3

      @@datualiomar3333 basically cr × 2 + cd and your cv is 43

  • @sonushk-yi4jh
    @sonushk-yi4jh Месяц назад +1

    13:29 Actually you can get 3 elixir currently from exploration

  • @gerrion25
    @gerrion25 4 месяца назад

    The funny thing is that you only need 4 out of the 5 artifacts to get the set bonus - whomever hoarded Goblets (not fed them to other artifacts) because sooner or later they'd be useful to a given character was the wisest move. So, those long-time hoarders only have to concern themselves with the Circlets and ER/EM timepieces, which cost less Elixirs. And given how scarce these are, it was a well-thought plan.
    Thank you for the detailed spreadsheet and guidance. It placed my thoughts all unto a cohesive narrative.

  • @thewackykid
    @thewackykid 4 месяца назад +4

    i don't think it is efficient to spend the elixers on the goblets because u need 4 elixers... u can always use off piece on the goblet....
    instead it is better to use the elixers on on-piece sands or circlet depending on which one u need more...

    • @JayDamaso78
      @JayDamaso78 4 месяца назад

      Absolutely this

    • @spacebanana712
      @spacebanana712 4 месяца назад

      100% this, a sands only costs 2 which is genuinely massive since I already have good off piece goblets I can use.

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 4 месяца назад

      But you simply get more attack or whatever sends. Geting a good off piece attack sands is simply easier.
      You might think differently because you are too used to thr idea that goblet is the offpiece but it's just math.
      The whole reason goblet is the designated offpiece is because you have a harder time geting a good one.

    • @spacebanana712
      @spacebanana712 4 месяца назад

      @@bencegergohocz5988 the sands is generally the issue for me, the goblet will stay as the off piece, that way I can get 2 sands for the cost of 1 goblet.

    • @JayDamaso78
      @JayDamaso78 4 месяца назад +1

      @bencegergohocz5988 it's probably dependent on how filled out your relics are on your account. For me, I have loads of goblets I've already saved that are god roll off-pieces. So it's just quicker (usually) and easier to farm either a great circlet or a great sands and just craft the other one. The stats on the whole for both would be very similar and the cost would be less.

  • @lehuyhoang116
    @lehuyhoang116 4 месяца назад +16

    Classic hoyo, they give you the shitty shit and when they make it less shitty you gobble up that shit thinking they "finally listen to the players"

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 4 месяца назад +10

      They did lol you just being ignorant

    • @masterk429
      @masterk429 4 месяца назад

      Can't believe that these cc are defending this trash mechanics with some bs calculation that doesn't work like that.
      Artifacts are based on probability and saying a person requires 2000 plus resin to get guaranteed goblet piece with desired states is just blatant lie and people are buying that. In probability u cant give a solid value unless there is a catch just like the banners.

    • @cynicalmandate
      @cynicalmandate 4 месяца назад +1

      I said this almost verbatim to my friend this morning

    • @renno2679
      @renno2679 4 месяца назад +1

      Literally doesn't matter that much. An ATK% goblet (or whatever main stat you need) with amazing sub stat rolls can be pretty competitive with a dmg goblet with mediocre sub stats. It's like a 5% difference.

    • @masterk429
      @masterk429 4 месяца назад

      @@cynicalmandate the people believing these calculations gotta be the most brain dead people in the world. Him giving resin count to get double crit artifact is same as him saying you can get character in 10 pulls. Its probability u cant assign a number to it.
      Man its sad that just to defend hoyo scam cc just do fraud with there own community.

  • @glovs4188
    @glovs4188 4 месяца назад +6

    Not even gonna bother with it. It's still not gonna roll into crit anyways.

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 4 месяца назад +1

      Enjoy grinding emblem for a year lol

    • @glovs4188
      @glovs4188 4 месяца назад +5

      @@Thedoorway123 and how does this system change anything? Getting the right subs isn't the hardest part. Lol

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 4 месяца назад +1

      @@glovs4188 it still let's you chose the main stats the ability to have an on set double crit elemental goblet takes around 60,000 resin to actually get and that's assuming you luck is terrible the artifact selector saves you tens of thousands of resin and will allow players to spend less time in domains id rather be able to get artifact farming done faster BUT THATS JUST ME THO

    • @glovs4188
      @glovs4188 4 месяца назад +7

      @@Thedoorway123 double crit on set goblet is absolutely not worth it for me if 3 rolls don't roll into crit. I have 40 to 50cv non on set goblets of all elements already in my account.
      I much prefer a roll chooser than a substat chooser.
      But hey, every drop hoyo gives is like a bucket for die hard hoyo simps.
      Like how people act like hoyo giving standard 5stars was like the 2nd coming of jesus. Like bruh. All 5star standard are garbages.

    • @danish2.012
      @danish2.012 4 месяца назад

      @@glovs4188 on set goblets can be worth.if you are struggling to find good sands or circlet. Sometimes, the luck with circlet and sands can be ridiculous

  • @Rachel-ny
    @Rachel-ny 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the info!
    Honestly this tool is very helpful to make double crit element goblets in certain 4 pieces which was previously like I had a pyro dmg bonus double crit but outside of 4 pieces, and a year being able to make 4 double crit element goblets in 4 pieces is pretty crazy, nice.

  • @oxillerate7992
    @oxillerate7992 4 месяца назад

    It would be cool to see what's the best artifact per character to create. I'm sure it would depend on what set the player is using for effect but A BiS showcase would be fun to watch and informative for newer players still building their teams.

  • @the_knave01
    @the_knave01 4 месяца назад +7

    This new system is a eye pleasing on surface but its a SCAM

    • @WastedTalent83
      @WastedTalent83 4 месяца назад

      its as eye pleasing, as a gore movie -..-

  • @loneWolf-jm9gg
    @loneWolf-jm9gg 4 месяца назад +6

    9secs ago is crazy

  • @victorb5
    @victorb5 4 месяца назад +4

    The truth about this feature is that I once again got my excitement for a nice quality of life update smashed into oblivion by an unnecessarily restrictive and controlling design.

  • @victoryfraud1756
    @victoryfraud1756 4 месяца назад

    I spent months ruining my life for a functional Arlecchino set. I'll probably save the Elixirs for when I need them. Even if It's limited how many times you can use them per patch. This video helped clarify a few things, so very much appreciate this!

  • @arifezwan8893
    @arifezwan8893 4 месяца назад

    9:39 it’s fine. Sometimes we can use our intuition and gut feelings and we might arrive at the correct answer, but just as often we might not.
    The only way to find certainty is through mathematics, and that’s what makes it so useful.

  • @allnamesbelongtous
    @allnamesbelongtous 3 месяца назад

    1. Resin estimations are estimations for expected amount spent and elixirs may actually save you from going grave before you see a single CryoDoubleCrit.
    2. Goblet is almost always off-set for reasons. Nobody farms those.
    3. There is no guarantee artifact will roll any good with remaining two stats.
    4. There will be at least 9 new characters that require good artifact during this year. Re-use is heavily countered by releasing new 'optimal' sets and artifact management pain (real artifact presets when?)
    --
    In the end good luck still triumphs. It just bad luck becomes not as painful. Keep praying.

  • @apexcrab
    @apexcrab 4 месяца назад

    Great video, I think the only consideration missing is that your goblet is likely going to be your 5th piece so ironically you actually get way more chances to roll it than other pieces. I guess it might make crafted goblet + off-set headpiece or something much more common.

  • @marcelojavierzayassisa7389
    @marcelojavierzayassisa7389 2 месяца назад

    bro I never expected not even in a million years to see your face, used to watch tons of your vids and now am back in genshin and woooooooww my boy Iwintoloose is handsome and stylish rocking that suit.

  • @Yokie05
    @Yokie05 3 месяца назад

    The way they presented this in the livestream made it seem like a game changing feature😃

  • @22neptun
    @22neptun 4 месяца назад

    Honestly I think the mere fact that off-pieces exist scews the math. Like, I could have two chances for a perfect sands instead of going for one perfect goblet, and just use the goblet as the off piece. And since one still needs to win against the RNG when upgrading the artifact, it might potentially be more "worth it" to go for more pieces to highten the chances you get a good artifact, and just take the goblet off-piece.

  • @nottyseel949
    @nottyseel949 4 месяца назад

    As a spreadsheet main myself, I always appreciate the commitment.