Police Chief Swiftly Fired For Misconduct
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What percentage of your audience is female? My apologies if that's a rude question. The audit community seems to be very male, so I'm trying to check my assumption.
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I'd be interested to know why you want to know the gender of the viewers of this channel. If you are doing a degree in Criminology or Sociology and need a questionnaire filled in I'll happily oblige.
I live in Michigan that chief so rude
You can get a 14 day trial by just going to the website 😂
The chief gets an A+. He figured out how to get early retirement at full pension.
A full month early, yay... I guess he just got to the phase of not caring anymore at the final stretch.
'I don't give a f about your rights right now. I'm not politically correct.' 🤣 10:37
But he's been humiliated on video for all his family and friends to see. Even idiot cops have their pride.
@@nullfield1126 yeah I’m sure he was a responsible and reasonable officer not abusing his power until he got close to retirement. Definitely 100%
@@Boatyboat420 Looks like you didn't really get what I was trying to say, but okay
For anyone wondering, the guy filming filed a suit and last month received a $95k settlement for unlawful arrest.
That's my favourite part of these stories.
@@peacemaster8117 Mine too. He attempted to record a man's suicide, and now you get to pay him $95k in tax dollars.
@@veritasetaequitas4310 "He attempted to record a man's suicide"
holy shit😂
Its BS. These police in small communities doing this dumb shit give out substancial, taxpayer paydays that are often desperately needed for local services. Officers should be held liable to pay some, if not all of these penalties. It also, as far fetched as it sounds, potentially creates situations/scams where kickbacks and paybacks can occur under the guise of civil rights violations.
Although the (ex) chief should pay the compensation from his pension fund.
This cop is from a time before cameras. He's used to NEVER being told 'no', and using state-sanctioned violence on anyone who dares.
In the end, he did him a favor! Now he retires with full pension... corruption escalates everyday😵💫
You apparently missed it, but the chief was going to retire in a month anyway, so basically he got off with not even a flick on the wrist.
Which doesnt make sense because he was, "fired without cause." He was voted to be fired because of something he did
@@nullfield1126 umm you just said basically the same thing
At the expense of the public
If he was able to keep his pension and benefits, he wasn’t fired.
military has a term for it, forced retire
yeah thats some corrupt bullshit man
@brian r Not true-If you have enough time in, you are locked into your pension unless you are convicted of a crime while you are performing your duties. JMHO based on my accumulated knowledge over the years and i could be wrong in some jurisdictions I suppose
@brian r what caused him to be fired?
this is how these mf police are, they say fuck the law and do what they want anyway. and some of these dumbass people who watch these kinds of videos support the police breaking the law and harassing and killing innocent people.
So you get fired for violating someone’s rights and get to keep your benefits/pension.
Sounds like a reward to me
Right
He was just retired early is what it sounds like
Exactly why I say cops are all bad. This dude was clearly in the wrong and has surly stomped over many rights to get to his position, and they let him go with a cash reward and retirement. Fired for no reason? There was a clear reason, this is just cops protecting cops. The system doesn't work, ACAB.
@@quintonfarmer2574 I agree with almost everything you said. And I am a former cop. Although I wasn't a civilian police officer, I was an MP.
@@quintonfarmer2574 Blanket statements and stereotypes are nearly always factually incorrect. That statement is as bad as saying all white men are racist and all Jews are rich. It is clearly an incoherent thought process.
10:38
My jaw DROPPED when he said idgaf about your rights
Your jaw didn't drop when the camera man dgaf about the situation.
If anyone is still watching these after a few years, there was a settlement of $95,000 for the unlawful arrest. Seems far from fitting that the Chief of Police who didn't know how to handle themselves and their position was awarded his retirement after breaking the law, while the tax payers have to pay for the mistake.
thats all these auditors care about, money.
That's probably well less than Churros' annual pension. The taxpayers are still paying for that mistake.
Unfortunately, he got 95k but after taxes and legal fees. He got a total amount of 35k
On one side we have a potential suicider with his life at stake. On another - psychopathic fatso, who took 100k of taxpayers money just because he was denied a pleasure to make yet another snuff film by not so nice means. I mean, be that encounter illegal, but 100k for 24 hours? Seriously? Is he running a business on sucking your money through goverment pockets, using human life as a leverage to masquarade his sick pleasure with "protected liberties"? Is this really what your grandpas died for? I dunno, man. Be this another encounter, like a water pipe leak or even comitted homicide scene, it would be somewhat ok. But this right here - i cant understand how you actually can support this sucker. You know, sometimes people sue for one penny plus expenses just to make a point. I would've respect that. But he clearly runs a racketeering business. I think as a citizen one should not support such behavior.
@Intotheunknown11 he should've got 0 for being a leech. He came running to luvestream of suicide, most likely in hopes of being arrested to get that check. That kind of behavior is sickening.
Chief: "I don't give a fuck about your rights."
Civil Rights Attorney: "It's free real estate."
On *live video* no less.
Lawyer: And Boom goes the dynamite!
What a commie cop.
Thats the Mexican Cop style, that´s why we don´t have Frauditors here,
they (frauditors and sovs) would get their azz kicked right on the spot.
He said "right now". He was worried about a nut in a tower.
So he effectively lost one months pay and the city gets to act like they care about people's rights.
Exactly. When I saw the tag line of the video I was thinking "Wow, some public officials finally got it right" but it was just them covering their asses. That's bullshit!
Probably got at least half pay for the month from his pension.
Well lawfully you can't take away his pension as that is protected in the same way if your employer wanted to take your pension after firing you for losing them money on a deal.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 If your conduct at work did merit termination for violating company policy, you could definitely lose your benefits. However, from the city's perspective, I believe they took correct action as termination 1 month before retirement would have landed them in a different court battle with the chief.
@@1SCme while you are most likely correct about trying to fire him and remove his pension one month from retirement I sorely wish that any legal action that would be taken could be taken against this officer directly rather than against the department as a whole. Any pain felt from this encounter should be his pain not the pain of the entire city. As things turned out he just got early retirement so no harm to him whatsoever.
I can't be the only one who finds these video's hard to stomach but still watch them. BEWARE these Cop's/Tyrant's are basically EVERYWHERE!!!!
Same lol
it's cringe sometimes, the guys that have nothing better to do than mess with cops. I like the videos where there just filming outside the police departments and then educate the police, but these videos are cringe when they are doing this during situations like this just to exercise rights
that's why I don't watch them... I just listen to them... it is a lot less awkward listening... after the video is done, I sometimes go back to just look at the faces of the characters involved
@@TheKomentor Thanks I'll try that.
@@chadillac2886 perhaps you could try to watch them with the sound off for a similar effect
The fact that a person is not allowed to defend themselves physically from police to the extent of which they believe they should is tyranny.
Yeah all we need right now is the people being allowed to escalate situations even further than already happens, isn't it
@patrykszczepanski773 if a cop pointed a gun at your head, would you not want to fight back? You must be an alien from Mars
Even if there was no gun involved, would you not fight back against a kidnapping?
@@patrykszczepanski773yes, exactly. Because he has a badge thry can put hands on you yet if someone without one does and you can defend yourself. Get the hell out of here
@@GraveMemoriesI mean, the cop has weapons and training. Odds are not in the average citizen’s favor if they try to physically fight an officer. That’s why the system gives options to fight it out in court at a later time and be compensated for damages done. As flawed a system as it is, it’s a much better option than just allowing people to fight back when and to the level they personally believe at the time.
They said he was fired without cause?
Violating a citizen's rights seems like a just cause to me.
They did that purposely because they had to do something for the public, but wanted him to keep his pension.
It’s not clearly established that he has a constitutional right to record in the 6th Circuit. It’s also not necessarily clearly established that one has a right to record in this specific circumstance. There is no case that I know of with remotely similar facts that said a journalist/photographer had a right. A case where there is imminent danger which could be exasperated by the presence of a videographer. Typically the courts have sided with the authorities if interfering was involved. A guy in a tower threatening what he did...and a videographer inserting himself? I haven’t seen it.
@@ipsurvivor It shouldn't even be up for debate, the Supreme Court has ruled that you can record anything your eyes can see in a public place.
Y’all right. However I think it’s just bc the guy was legit killing himself and this guy wants to go record lol. I’m watching the vid rn while reading comments but I’m already kind of against this audit just because there’s a place and time to do that not when someone is literally on the verge of killing themselves
@@ipsurvivor he interfered form 500 feet away judge
"Fired without cause" there was a fucking cause and it's clearly documented.
Nah, not "fired without cause", more like "forced retirement".
He committed so many offenses during that interaction he could be charged and jailed if the Auditor really wanted to.
@Long Duck Dong Why do we as citizens allow these kinds of rules to be ok; Fired without cause; if they fired him without cause, he must have a big fat lawsuit waiting for him somewhere. If I can get my pension from my workplace, I can be the biggest tyrant in the office; I have nothing to lose. So, basically what they're saying is, these rules are set in place because they absolutely know the officers are assholes.
@@rhondamarshall3574 well I mean I'm pretty sure his qualified immunity is toast so a good portion of that big fat retirement check could go to the auditor every month.
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he was clearly in the wrong here but i would find it hard to justify stripping the man of his pension and benefits based on this one interaction. no doubt he has been an A-hole like this in other encounters but to paint a mans entire (likely 30+ year) career in this light and stripping him of the benefits he worked for and earned would not be right.
Noticed when the police were polite he left peacefully. That chief should have taken notes
That chief came unhinged right now. He certainly needed to be terminated. Happy for your settlement.
This is a police chief. Imagine this guy before cameras
*2022 Corunna Council Candidates should run on a platform of reeling back benefits/pension from ex Chief Nick Chiros.*
Mr Roche should have sued his ass off.
Imagine how he behaves when there are NO cameras.
@@77gravity that’s the point of the post
@@draevonmay7704 Sorry, I interpreted "before cameras" as meaning "in front of media cameras", rather than what I now understand as "before cameras were invented or used". :)
Pfft, he wasn’t “fired” at all. Just given an early retirement on our dime.
That really frosts my Kelvinator.
The one time they “fire” someone, they do it to an egotistical oldhead who was probably gonna either die or retire in a few years anyway. They only acted to save their public image
Exactly what happened :(
@Truth is here What does America have that Europe doesn't?
@Truth is here Police departments are done at the local level. It doesn't involve federal government so no national voting doesn't apply.
I live in owosso, corunna. I tried getting police help for a racist issue. Went to the department. No help. I was arrested for asking after days of no detective. I had to yell in my yard days later to get help and they arrested me for tresspass on my own property. The case was was dropped after about 6 months.
These officer's didnt like i asked them to please cut off the lights so i could avoid seizures and came into my home and said " wheres the meth at". Nothing found in my home illegal. I was taken into custody because i knocked on my neighbors door to say . I may need to get help from police. I was arrested for knocking on my neighbors door. The case was dropped. No apologies. CORUNNA AND OWOSSO ARE CORRUPT!
As usual, justice isn't served when a law enforcement officer is involved.
"I don't care about your rights!" OK, well that sums it up.
How about a suit that addresses the cheifs actions, take this as a class action against the state ?
"I don't care about your rights right now" that's all the judge needed to hear
Not true. That statement is in fact a validation of the chief's contention that he was dealing with a life or death matter and the right to broadcast a salacious "death jump" had no Constitutional significant. The analysis in this video is fundamentally flawed. Please see my full comment above.
@@robertlaw4073 I disagree completely. The fact he is caught on video saying he doesn't care about his rights while not interfering in that situation is a serious flaw in how interactions should be handled. Those words can be used against him because he is sworn to uphold and protect the public's Constitutional rights.
@El Pacho There is nothing criminal in his statement. He doesn't have to "care" about a pretextual free-speech / free-press argument when someone's life is endangered.
@@robertlaw4073 him recording/broadcasting has no impact whatsoever in the situation. Cops have no reason to illegally harass him instead of doing their job.
@@robertlaw4073 he literally stated on livestream that he was not upholding the guys rights, a direct violation of his job description, he didn't deserve the job for that exact reason, the guy wasn't causing a problem, mr grapesforballs just wanted to throw his weight around
5:55 bud-grower getting a shout out lol
10:42 "I could give a F about rights right now. I'm not politically correct." When the chief says that... game over for him.
The Troopers were soooooo much better than the chief was. They asked a favor, they were courteous, they didn't lie or threaten, and the man with the camera cooperated.
I'm so glad they got a rating, they handled the situation perfectly, explained the situation just enough while asking him to step back.
Almost like they have higher standards of training and professionalism lol
COP: "You're going to learn the hard way"
Citizen: *plays uno reverse card*
Yes, but Actually. no.
This interaction was probably the best the police chief could hope for. He got removed from his position but kept his pension and benefits so basically he violated someone's rights and his punishment was an earlier retirement with no criminal or civil charges. Cops: 2. Anyone else: 0.
@@sergeantspeed5941: Yes, actually yes, he did.
@@codycausey3341 I'd say the win here is that the chief is no longer the chief, and he can't violate anyone else's rights. It's not much, but I'll take what I can get.
Let's not forget that the auditor can still drag this pig to court over this. He definitely should since he was fired and somehow kept his pension.
I don't think this piggy should enjoy a peaceful early retirement.
It’s inappropriate to call a person in state of suicidal crisis a ‘suspect’.
If someone is potentially about to take their own life, they should not be treated as a criminal, but as a victim in need of compassion and trauma-informed mental health support.
The issue here with the chief was he's apart of that old policing style. Can you imagine in his tenure how many peoples rights he's trampled on. It's scary to think about what all he's done in his years.
He wasn't fired, he retired with full benefits... this is NO JUSTICE WHATSOEVER without actual legal consequences for the ex chief.
good
well, these kind of people have friends and status to worry about. its obv a L for him.
Wanna bet he asked his subordinates to go over there and tell him to leave but was told they didn't have the authority to do that, and so he decided to do it on his own.
Of course, if any of the officers there came out and said that to the press or anything like that, then they could probably kiss their career goodbye within law enforcement.
Like a local government gang, they look out for one another, and i bet the next chief that was elected was also on real good terms with the mayor and city manager.
@@LobbeWOW I don't doubt any of that.
@@LobbeWOW wh0 fucknig cares
The thing that disturbed me was that he said that he didn’t care about his rights...
Yup. I could have sworn that police are supposed to uphold this little thing called the Constitution. Imagine the rights this guy violated during his tenure in law enforcement.
They have never cared about your rights.
"I'm not politically correct" No one said you had to be, but it's literally your job to enforce the actual law... The fact that this dude was chief means his entire department needs to get recycled with fresh faces. Who knows how much his rot runs down that department.
That was one of the most disturbing parts to me - that he said "I'm not politically correct" as if to imply that following the law and observing Constitutional rights is a matter of political correctness.
@@68Tboy not the same as the chief
The city paid this man $95,000 for a wrongful arrest. These cities WILL LEARN to stop hiring and protecting these idiots
The Chief eats his words as the Crusader tells him .." I'm not gonna learn the hard way, you are."
The Chief replies, " No I'm not"...He was fired at the city council meeting three days later.
Yes you will learn the hard way copper, former copper. You now are an example as we study case law around the world. Chief, you are a law-breaker yourself.
The badge and false power he was hiding under/behind and abusing all these years has reared its head.
The swagger he had and badge he had are stripped as is his character and integrity. Touche and kudos to Crusaders.
He's fired, but we're still paying him for the rest of his life... What a punishment.
Technically his pension is paid for by his and his employer contributions during the life of his employment; it does not come out of taxpayer revenue at all.
@@daveluttinen2547 and where do you think that comes from?
@@MrRyan-wu4jx It comes from a contract negotiation between the agency and the union. It is part of the compensation to which he is entitled. Don't get me wrong, the officer is not qualified to do the job any longer, but he did earn the pension.
@@daveluttinen2547 still gotta take it back another step, all that money that’s in that pension came from the taxpayer in the first place.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx wether he gets his pension or not will not return that money to the tax payers. Do you want his salary of 30 years returned as well? Pension for his years of service, he didn't seem to commit a crime so heinous to warrant him losing it. He probably should have retired earlier.
Cop:" i dont give a damn about your rights" thats why a lot of people hate cops
I don't hate the decent cops, just the rotten ones
@@doug753 "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
Decent cops need to do SOMETHING to stop these rotten ones. The rotten ones are spoiling the whole basket.
Crack down on bad attitudes inside the law enforcement and cops won't have to fear as much for their lives in the future.
@@doug753 Problem is, the shitty cops represent the same police force as the good ones. If the good cops don't like the bad name, they should be the ones leading the fight against bad cops.
@@L1Run until a serious overhaul happens in the police unions it is almost impossible for good cops to stand up and testify against bad cops. Unfortunately any testimony against bad cops by good cops is tantamount to career suicide for the good cops. They are almost always blackballed, shifted into horrible shifts and the worst neighborhoods. They almost always are left out to twist in the wind when they call for backup when they need assistance.
Unfortunately, in order to keep their job they are essentially forced to keep quiet. If not directly ordered to remain silent, history shows the consequences of speaking out.
Until the unions are stripped of their power and police are stripped of their blanket, qualified immunity, I see very little changing when it comes to officers reporting other officers.
The one advantage we have now that wasn't around 15-20 years ago is that the public's eyes are more open than they have ever been to the outrageous actions of police. And now we have the power to record and report these infractions. We have seen recently that a large public outcry supported by video evidence can bring change. Unfortunately it is going to take longer than it should because we are doing it alone since the police aren't doing anything to assist in cleaning their own houses.
@@doctortow6244 Many fields have internal politics that prevent smooth function. Academia. Government. Police. Essentially it boils down to this: speak up, and your life is harder. Don't speak up, and your life is easier. And, in this case, it's cops who are there to uphold the law not speaking up when the law is violated - in order to make their lives easier. There is a term for that: crooked cops. And yes, you could say that this is just a product of their environment, but you could also say that about many criminals who are arrested and sent to prison.
I'm all for police reform, including better social integration, deescalation training, better education in policing law, and better accountability. These are things we will hopefully address in the near future. But that does not excuse current abuse of public trust, or complicity in its abuse.
Commit the crime, collect a life time pension. Now that sounds corrupt.
Dear AtA. I am a big fan of your show, making legal sense of the day to day interactions we see tween police and citizens. This episode is particularly enlightening when it comes to official entitlement. I am also a fan of Steve Lehto who does his best to explain our arcane system to the average Joe.
You ask at the end of each video about subjects your viewers would like explored and explained further. My question is regarding the arcane department of justice body known as the OPR (Office of Professional Responsibility). The job of this service is to handle and adjudicate the hundreds of accusations of impropriety that are lodged each year regarding misconduct by "officers of the Federal Court including but not limited to Judges, Prosecutors, and other "Federal Court Officers."
As far as I can see this watchdog agency is unique compared with the dozens of other monitoring systems we have in place to deal with such disparate groups as doctors, morticians, police, real estate professionals, plumbers, architects . . . you name it. The list is endless.
However, unlike all the other watchdog groups the public can rely on to make informed decisions, this OPR is unique in that far from providing outcomes to accusations of all kinds, this "OPR" fails to even provide an anonymized numerical accounting of how many cases they consider each law. IE they can't even justify their own existence. I suggest that this organization is a corrupt sham, answerable to no one. Perhaps I have it all wrong. I would really value an explanation from a professional such as yourself who might be able to explain to me why these government officials appear to be beyond any kind of supervision.
Kind regards, Anthony Wareham.
I know you didn’t ask me but you can’t have a never ending chain of supervisors supervising supervisors. It does have to end somewhere.
It's their ego. "Do as I want or I'll arrest you!"
Thats why so many of them are child mole-sters
Much like the military, the law enforcement profession attracts those with high amounts of pride.
I think he just wanted to stop someone from committing suicide in front of him. He's probably seen a lot of horrible shit. Deserves to be removed because rights must be respected, but this was not an ego trip imo..
@@AbyssalMelody no it was defo his ego
@@elvishards8161 no, he was concerned about whoever he was talking to.
The guy with the ego is the jackass with the camera crying about "muh rights"!!!!!!!
I cant believe that these cops never say anything like "im aware of your rights i know i cant make you, but im asking please, do what i ask for the sake of peoples lives."
Humans respond well to that sort of conduct.
I totally agree
Catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
Right! what if we all tried to be angels? there would be no need for laws. I keep trying.
Good point, but they shouldn't think a guy hundreds of feet away with a camera is interfering to begin with. It's all in their heads. They should have to watch a few hours of Audit the audit as part of their training.
It would have been a different outcome if he had just asked as you say, but he decided to be a bully with a badge, the free right to do whatever he wants to because he's the top bully- what a wanker!
Thank you
He has been denying basic human rights his entire career. Now, the people he trained.
I can't believe that Chief just admitted to not caring about people's rights 🤦🏼♂️🤣
He probably doesn't care about what the juries or the judges rulings are. And most certainly doesn't care about how people on youtube judge him
He obviously has gotten away with this kind of behavior in the past. He knew he had nothing to fear. So sad.
Sounds like the chief owns his boss in that town..
He was gonna retire anyways and he is still going to get his full pension.
Tell me how this is a WIN for We The People?
They got educated. That is the win.
One less moth of dealing with his incompetence
The chief can sue under the same statute as the Auditor. 42 U.S.C section 1983...That’s probably why they didn’t try to keep his pension.
This is America, the public rarely wins no matter how wrong the police are.
He doesn’t get a retirement cake.
this channel should have 50 million subscribers. everyone should see these videos
So he gets to retire early with his pension and benefits!
The police 1
Citizens 0
Yup. The dickhead police officer won here. It's absurd that you can act in any way and just keep all the benefits.
What song would you be singing had the man jumped because the man hiding with a camera scared him?
Meh, he could have been chief for a few years more, this probably cost him tens of thousands of dollars in lost pay.
@@Madd_Whack What song are you singing since that didn't happen?
Depends on his age and years of service. He may have no insurance and may not have received full pension due to not having accrued the years of service. And if he is not old enough to collect SSI then his pension will not be enough to live on.
We need to pass a law, requiring lawsuits to be paid out of the police officer pension fund. THAT will change the way cops treat citizens.
Can you imagine how fast they would think twice before doing anything??
Exactly! We have to stop paying them out for their own fuck ups
Can you imagine how much more they’d circle the wagons and lie on behalf of other LEO’s since they now had a financial incentive to do so?
While I agree with you in principle, if a police officer is punished (by having money paid from HIS pension fund) when ANOTHER police officer does something bad, then first you are punishing people who did nothing wrong, and secondly you are encouraging police officers to protect each other.
Both of which are bad.
I do agree that it's important that police officers have to pay when they do something wrong, but this is not the way to do it.
How about we just bonus cops for uncovering corruption within the department’s. 100,000 tax free money and you’ll have department rats all over the place
Mr Rosh gets an F for filming someone threatening suicide and this channel gets an F for not condemning him for it.
That first police officer was perfect towards him
Every arrest he's ever made need to be reviewed, he said out of his own mouth he doesn't care about people's rights.... I'm sure this isn't the first time he's made an arrest without caring about their rights.
No way this was the first time he's done this. The way the troopers hid while the chief "took care of business" tells a story.
100%
Agree. They should investigate.
💯
Not only the arrests he made, but those who was called in to review when a "supervisor" was requested.
I'm from a small midwestern town, and this perfectly matches what I saw...some cops are smart, calm and ethical, and some are powertripping idiots.
Exactly. I grew up despising cops but it turned out that my small town was just corrupted with those idiots.
Cops in that town did nothing but bait for speeders, take 20+ minutes to get to you in a >500-people-town, and never took reports so repeats of an incident were as if it’s the first. A lot of small towns need to have better training or something.
Tell me about it. I got charged with disorderly conduct for being physically assaulted by my step brother and his mother and then threatened to arrest ME????
Sadly, that is the case in most precincts. It is not a job where even one “bad apple” is acceptable.
yep. Small town departments are an actual horror story.
Small Midwestern town here as well. Right by Lake of the Ozarks. We have a great community and I've never heard of a local officer abusing their power. Hell, I was walking home through school property with a bottle of Crown in my hands at about 1am. Cop stopped and asked me, "Wtf are you doing? This is a school you dumbass. Get in the car." He took me home and told me to go to bed. Never even asked for ID.
In the age of youtube, twitch, facebook, twitter, instagram, tiktok, etc., etc., etc., everyone is a member of the press.
“chief” is an old school cop that thinks he is tough simply because of his badge.
He diseved a good slap!
He ain't tough.
robert appel - I have to respectfully disagree with you. There is nothing "old school" about power hungry a_s hole cops. Today's younger cops suffer from the exact same illness. Nothing has changed in cops' behavior in more modern times. They just use bigger more dangerous weapons that they have acquired from our military. This may be an old chief...but his aggressive behavior is just as current as most modern cops of today. And not just in the US either!
@@briobarb8525 i think he was pointing out the fact that this “chief” probably can’t walk up a flight of stairs without having a coronary, let alone defend himself or fight in any way , shape, or form
I would slap the ugly mustache off his face.
His being a month away from retiring probably played a bigger role than his behavior in getting him fired. He lost nothing except maybe a little esteem.
I don’t think he’ll be the dignitary riding in the lead Convertible of the homecoming parade
Here in Louisville they fired the police chief a few weeks before his retirement and he got to keep his pension. Is that really fired?
@@louisvillelouisville218 not really
Stop backing up if he pushes you over that assault and or battery on his part. I am a michigander and this cop is sickening with the way he was trying to handle the delicate situation. Extremely Happy to hear he was fired for is aggressive and inappropriate tone and conduct.
*Violates citizen's rights* Reward: Early vacation
Vacation. Dudes like 90 more like retirement.
Early retirement* he was retiring in a month.
Trip to the Bahamas haha bunch of clowns
Was you hoping for the electric chair??
Sergeant Perry from my town stole an upper reciever for an m16 given to us by the LESO program to pay off a debt for a 4-wheeler. Was taken off work for 2 DAYS!
"I'm not politically correct"
He's not correct in any sense
I'm not even sure why he said that as well. Like, this isn't about pronouns and all that jazz, this is about someone's constitutional rights.
@@Zamerus Yeah, although I guess constitutional rights are "politically correct" if you take those words literally
@@Zamerus cause he’s a boomer.
In a sense of trying to save a suicidal person I'd say he was correct
Constitutionally-protected activity or not, live streaming a suicidal man contemplating jumping to his death is disgusting.
Imho filming a suicidal person and potentially causing that suicide/escalating the situation is a dick move and interfering.
You forgot to give the city an F for the “without cause” bs. There was certainly cause.
If this dude wasn’t filming, I genuinely believe things would’ve gotten physical.
oh for sure, they would have all gotten together and got their story made up, and beat his ass and threw everything they could think of at him
@ken parvu That's absolutely hyperbolic and not true. If he'd refused to leave and didn't have his camera, they likely would have roughed him up a bit at worst and trumped up an "assault of a police officer" charge if he at all resisted being arrested.
Imagine how many he had dealt with that way before video recording came along?
Why would he have been there if he wasn’t filming . If he hadn’t went to film a man killing himself live on Facebook.
Yeah, are we talking fisticuffs, or Olivia Newton John “let’s get physical?”
Wow! Fire me and I get to keep my pension and benefits, go ahead and fire me. Boy, they sure showed him, right?
This chief is an example of some of the bad apples we need to get rid of. He did not get that way over night. I can only imagine how many hostile encounters he created over his career that he got away with. Terrible!
that police contractor said that journalist could film. then broke his word by abusing the journalist.
There are a few good apples, The way police are trained makes them horrible on day 1
No. This chief is an example of the majority of cases and attitudes that police have. Not a few bad apples. How many videos are people going to have to watch of “police misconduct” before people realize that this kind of attitude is not a bug, but a FEATURE of police training?
"Some"
Funny joke
@Steve Abner They choose if and when they want to turn on the camera, so everyone should have minimum 1 front facing camera and 1 inside car, so you can prove that you was wearing seat belt and not holding a phone
The first encounter by the wise officer was perfect. That should be your next chief of police.
They actually failed to produce any reasonable result, so no, it was not perfect.
@@user-pm8je4fo7e What do you mean? They came to an agreement and the guy walked back. The problem only came back when another cop decided it wasn't good enough.
@@Porook It was not an agreement. They originally asked him for more, but eventually backed down to prevent escalation. And chief, who was obv. in charge, decided that escalation would be more appropriate option in comparison with potential harm that "reporter" could bring both to suicidal person and public.
Someone explain to me...why are there so many old people in the police department?
That chief may not be PC, but he’s certainly not PD now. Good riddance. Now file a civil suit.
This is the kind of chief that likes to say, "In the good old days we used to carry blackjacks to hit them upside the head."
It is amazing that he will still collect his golden parachute 🪂 retirement fund
People who think that their right to film a situation they were not involved in not caring that their actions are potentially about to cost someone their life deserve a *“flap jack”* upside their head…. Over and over again.
@@bobbyburch410 They dont think it's their right. It IS their right. As proven here.
@@bobbyburch410 If you don't want to be filmed, don't go out in public. Every parking lot you go into, every store you enter, when you walk down the street, you are being filmed.
@@Jackaroo. Surveillance cameras don’t grow legs and follow people down the street trying to antagonize people so they can make money off of the reaction. Surveillance cameras don’t have mouth’s that cause suicidal people to be even more aggravated. You’re comparing apples to oranges and it is in played out Narrative.
If you get fired, you should lose all pension/benefits.
Exactly. If they put you out the military because you were written up you're fucked. No separation pay no nothing. Cops are illegal asf. No reprocussions for there actions.
I picture him setting on his porch drinking some coffee, his children coming by and asking him "How is your early retirement dad?" In which case he looks at them with a smile as if he has done more good in the world and earned it.
Rightful punishment? Hmm not sure. But there does seem a lack of any real punishment and he just leaves an example for the other cops after him.
Just like anyone else, but because people are conditioned to act and react in particular situations things like this happen. Being so close to retirement you'd think common sense would have been more on his mind.... oh i forgot he was owed because of that badge.
Police unions have too much power.
@@giftedfox4748 Maybe he said I stopped a pathetic loser trying to live stream a suicide. His family should be proud of him from a moral standpoint.
What’s more important? This guys life or exposing police? Video showed true colors
Holding power to account, 100%
They guy's life was not in any way threatened by someone filming.
We have constitutional rights, and the preservation of them outweighs any potential individual risk. Period.
How are we not giving the dude an F for filming a potential suicidal person...we just ok with that behaviour 🤔
The first ammendment allows it. If the news was out there would it some how be different?
Chief: We don't need the camera here
Citizen: Clearly we do, though.
Why because a suicidal person might not like their plight being broadcast to the world? How about some basic dignity?
James T Kirk i remarked on this also, seems like we dont need journalists at all petty crimes
@@James_T_Kirk_1701 Strip away the colorful terminology and hyperbole, and most people don't like having their public actions recorded. The cameraman did comply with the request to move back approx. 160 yards from the scene, more than enough to remove himself from interfering with the events unfolding.
@@James_T_Kirk_1701 I agree with you. It's a super fragile situation, for the suicidal person and the police men. The last thing you need is a guy with a camera recording the whole thing. For what purpose really I wonder?
@@1SCme If he was observed with his camera just being visible to the jumper is enough, because no matter what the jumper is going to assume he’s being filmed.
There needs to be more personal accountability with officers.
Qualified immunity needs to end
You think?
Yep there does. Glad we established that fact. We can all go home now guys, problem solved.
@@knartfocker_ Thank you, sir. I have been wanting to go home. Have a good night.
Take money from their pensions.
Chief says “I dont give a shit about your rights?!” Just jaw dropping holy shit
Keeping his pension and benefits means he retired early not fired.
It's not an officer's job to police when they have no power to, however, the filmer is a bad person who was doing a fucked up thing and it's hard to blame the police chief for having a short temper.
@@TinyGiraffes we need police reform now, all lawsuits should come out of the officers' pensions. See how fast this kind of behavior ends over night.
@@TinyGiraffes how exactly is the videographer a bad person?
@@adrpals2324 I don't disagree but what the filmer was doing was fucked up and if I was on my last month as police chief I could totally see myself not giving a shit.
@@jjbailey01 The dude wanted to exploit another person's suicide for views; that's fucked up.
Just imagine all the people that this tyrant has violated in his career how many lives has this guy destroyed.
Probably many innocent people still incarcerated just so this officer could be promoted and get pats on the back from his butt-buddies for falsely impersonating the poor citizens who had the bad luck of running into this fuckin dirtbag.
Apperantly we live in a world when police is god and whatever they say is law at least in the moment. So sad some cops have lost their humanity. Acting like animals. However there are times when people provoke police by being rude and out of line also.
@@ziurim no laws against being rude, plenty of laws against violating civil rights. People like yourself are the problem.
@@ky1ebetts "butt buddies" is a homophobic slur and a transphobic mis-gendering of pre-operation male to female trans vaginas.
How do you know? Could have been his worst day. What would your worst day look like on RUclips? Maybe it was his best day. I have yet to see evidence of either.
At the very least, the lawsuit he was awarded should come directly from Churros's pension and not from the Tax Payers
I understand both sides but if I was struggling mentally and was ready to most likely off myself but I ended up being calmed down, I wouldn’t want it to be filmed and blasted online to go viral. The police seemed to be coming from a good place but the chief couldn’t keep his emotions in check. Glad no one got hurt.
Exactly. Why are you live streaming a person's suicide attempt without the victims consent? People have no shame.
You don't have to get consent to film someone in public.
@@random11yroldontheinternet97nobody understands this whatsoever
@@random11yroldontheinternet97 we know this but live streaming someone who is clearly in a bad situation like this is not a nice thing to do. seems like the auditor doesn't care and only worries about the video
@@random11yroldontheinternet97It's not a legal thing, it's a being a good person thing.
The 2 troopers were courteous and kind. Good job gents.
Completely wrong. The 2 troopers were intimidated by him and that set up the chief to have to come in and shut him down hard. What we don't really know even is whether Mr. Rosche complied by goint to the pole and staying at the pole. The officers seem basically not to care when they walk away... he is the one who says, "is that pole OK". Well, do you think the jumper was able to see him over the pole. Or, more importantly, did those officers consider that, or were they now thinking more about their own records and pensions than the life of the jumper. The Chief here did what had to be done. He could have done it without the drama, but frankly, he probably didn't really want to arrest Mr. Rosche. Probable because he made some assumptions about Mr. Rosche based on his race and appearance. He should have just matter-of-factly had him arrested. No discussion needed. No tantrum needed. But frankly what Mr. Rosche probably needed was a good ass-whoopping to learn that other people's lives aren't less important than him and his facebook live-stream. Sadly, no ass-whoopings for narcicist phone-streamers in this day and age.
@@robertlaw4073 made assumptions about his race? Aren’t they both white guys?
i went from "what's this?" to watching 2 hours worth of videos, subed
😂😂😂Yoooo! Facts! Started with the Superbowl, this and "The DUI Guy" 😳
@@tiggajenk3570 same! Then watching some family court footage gave me flashbacks and almost caused a fight with my sons mom! Lol
Lol same
I found em a couple years ago! Very very addictive!
subed, lubed and rubed.
i like how the people in chat care more about this guy getting a lawsuit than the guy getting saved
Yea and I don't like
“Im not gonna learn the hard way , you are” -Legend
He lost his job but there was no point, they need to strip pension and benefits when disciplining officers who break the law.
Edit: If not this, then SOME kind of strict reform and harsh punishments need to be in place. It's fine to criticize my idea (yes, it's definitely very flawed), but at least I'm putting forth an idea. If you're gonna say it's a bad idea(not denying it isn't, but it's still better than nothing), at least follow up with your own.
They gotta do something about police unions. They basically force cities’ hands by threatening to not police at all or give them everything they want.
@@p_j_238 So terrorism
@@p_j_238 That is what happens when you put all of your faith into public law enforcement to provide civil protection.
yes,,the victim should get the pension..
Can't say I agree with that. If I got fired for doing something stupid I would not want to lose my 401k over it.
You can say he was swiftly fired, but he was a Chief of police. He has been doing this to people for a very long time without consequence.
And that's the crux of the matter.
This is a great venue for lawyers to find clients
95k settlement. It might be considered a full time job to fish for lawsuits lol
If only i was in America..
Gotta pay for lawyers and it takes years soo unless it’s a million $ + lawsuit then is it really worth it? Really depends how much you pay you’re lawyer I guess
@@Sebastian-km9qx even if it's half, that's not bad
This gets to the bottom of it though “I don’t care about your rights” is a common sentiment amongst LEO’s
That is why I don't cry when pigs die.
What's worse is that more of our leaders aren't shocked to the core hearing police say something like that. These are our law enforcement officers for chrissake. Politician and should be up in arms and making speeches that any offer that tells a person that will be immediately terminated. The chief just admitted to being a hooligan. Since if that's the truth, then the whole justice system in his jurisdiction is corrupt, and the police are no better than gangsters.
@@reallyaznokidding bacon is delicious, aint it?
Sad but true
There’s 800,000 LEOs and nearly all have body cams and ever citizen has a camera. Bad incidents will obviously be filmed. You have absolutely no evidence that this behavior is common. This is such an emotional perspective and people tend to say/believe dumb things when they’re emotional
Gotta be McLovin it when the top cop gets canned! LMAO!
I love how all these books full of laws still have parts that are "unclear" and "dont directly address" so many circumstances
Because the problem is "words" .....
The part where He was talking about "traditional" use of public lands .....
What constitutes a "tradition" ......
I'll bet ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY that Your definition is slightly different than mine .... Words mean different things to different people always .....
That is why there will NEVER be justice ......
Until there is only one human being left alive .....
@@stevenattanasso2003 not arguing just wanted to say "my definition" of traditional is something common or repeating over time. But at the same time every english word has its respectable place in the dictionary. Cant argue with that
@@theginger1187 Repeating over time ?
How often ? Over how long of a time frame ? I'm not arguing , just looking for clarification ? ( BTW , how do You define arguing ? )
This is why there are Courts and Lawyers. Not everything in the law is written in straight-forward English - 'letter' and 'spirit' both need to be considered.
there wasnt video cameras back then.
I work in law enforcement and when i hear someone use the word tyrant when talking about the police i now know what their talking about. If this chief acted like this when he knew he was on video then how did he act for years on the force when he was not on video? How many false arrest gas he made and I wonder how many times he violated a person's Rights and got away with it. Chances are he's been like this for years and everyone in the city council knew about it but only acted after he was caught on video. Then on top of it there was NO PUNISHMENT for his actions he got to keep his pension. What does that say to all the other officers in the department? If you violate a oersons rights nothing will be done to you.
Good to see that these city’s and counties are starting to stop having their backs when they act
Like this!
"Hey listen buddy, I know you're stood their filming this is perfectly legal....but please...i'm speaking to you human to human...please have some respect for this man who is a really bad place right now... I'd really appreciate this"
Something along those lines would have done the job.
Heh~ Not always.
Some people are just douchebags. But that reasoning is way better than what he actually did.
Shouldn't be necessary in the first place. And if the fat asshole with the camera had any decency, he wouldn't pick *this* situation to argue his rights in. Lives were at stake. He could get the fuck out and file a complaint later.
It did do the job. He moved way back.
@@BenedictMHolland no that’s only because he refused to stop filming so they asked if he could at least move further back
@david choi yea. They asked him to move back. He did. They didn't scream at him and threaten to send him to jail.
That police chief went from “You are going to learn the hard way” to “I was going to retire anyways” in record time.
Leave with full advantage. Full pension and pay.
Not justice at all.
The system is corrupt.
I would give the recorded an F as well. Complete lack of any situational awareness. Who in their right minds goes out to film someone who has threatened to commit suicide?
This guy was the Chief? Can u imagine all the abuse he gave out his whole career. Wow! Roche needs to sue!
The biggest abuse was having to look at the Chief's face!
Imagine how much he messed up just because he clearly has a limited iq
@@operadog2000 HAhaha! Agreed! All pitted and pocked! Yuck! Lol!
assumptions
@@YTDE426 yea just like the thing this chief does instead of knowing the law. Disgrace cost us 95k for being like this and then retired. His whole career amounts to nothing, on that alone.
The troopers behaved admirably. The chief was abominable.
yeah the troopers were fine, the one trooper literally only asked him what he was doing then minutes later gave him his name and badge #
Troopers did not behave admirably, if they did they wouldn't've said anything in the 1st place. And also they should've shut down that ass hole sheriff. They get an F in my book also. after all aren't they too supposed to protect the public from thugs like that ass hole sheriff.
I live in Michigan and in my experience the state police have always been polite and professional in every interaction I've had with them.
@@johndough7116 I stand corrected. As usual, LEOs did not discipline one of their own when misbehaving and infringing citizen rights.
@@danwolf307 Me, too: grew up in Flint. There was a valid criticism, though, that they should have done more to protect the cammer from the assault and infringement of the ‘chief’. The state police seem to act to a higher standard than the ‘local yokels’ fo sure, but our family has found that they are not particularly empathetic, and generally humorless.
I love the live chat all spamming lawsuits while he's being arrested 🤣 no wonder people have no trust anymore
9 times out of 10, in these kinds of situations, cops would be better served by treating people like people. Respectful conversation goes a lot further than authoritative demands with the general public.
9/10 times if your dealing with a department where the chief still patrols, chances are your aren’t dealing with the smartest officer
You’re* you*
Why is it always the guy that questions the intelligence of another is himself incapable of exercising 4th grade level grammar skills?
@@austindorf83 Have you never had spell check change words you've typed out? Maybe you should be complaining to the manager of RUclips about his grammar. It's like, we have to have standards, right? It clearly says all RUclips comments must use correct grammar, spelling and usage rules from Karen's Big Book of Grammar for Managers right there in the EULA,
Hollow Rock TN....
@@76rjackson 😂
@@76rjackson Yes, I have. I correct them. I have standards and principles. I was more pointing out the hypocrisy of his comment, not necessarily the grammar itself. You shouldn’t be on the internet insulting the intelligence of a stranger when you can’t properly construct a sentence yourself. Get what I’m saying?
This guy is way out of control. He even said he didn’t give a shit about his rights.
He doesn't have to because his rights are irrelevant when they create a life or death risk to another individual. The chief understood more about the Constitution than the host of this video (actually I think he understands, but glosses over it in order to keep up the theme of "bad cops"). Certainly he had a better grasp of "balancing" required by the Supreme Court than most of the folks who commented. When you are balancing the weight of an elephant against the weight of a gnat, the weight of the gnat is irrelevant. Here, Mr. Rosche's interest in his facebook live-stream are a gnat. And the life of the would-be jumper is the elephant. In this situation, you don't have to care about the gnat.
@@robertlaw4073 So you have zero complaints about the Chief of Polices' conduct? The Chief just couldn't control himself in this unarmed situation against a fat camera guy covered in gear?
"I don't give a shit" "I'm not PC" "I don't care" did he have to say any of that? Doesn't that needlessly escalate the situation?
Even if you're right, and camera guy needs to leave, this was the wrong way to do it.
@@EricLeafericson The guy with a camera cared more about his rights and beating a cop than the life of another human being. The camera operator was a piece of shit so I don't really blame the cop as the situation got more desperate. Fuck his rights in this situation.
@@markmathews2143 I don't give a shit who cares more. Or who's in the wrong more. They may both be in the wrong, I don't care.
My tax dollars should go to cops who are ABOVE this behavior. That's what they're paid to do, even if it means putting on a smile and being nice to dickheads.
Like the rest of the working world.
@@robertlaw4073 Yeah 100%. The police chief got cancelled, plain and simple. There are a lot of bad cops to try and fix. This was just some gotcha bullshit on someone who's just trying to save a life.
Michigan state troopers are on a top level, always