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The non-binary character who insists to be called "they", refuses Dragon King's name, saying he should be a Queen. She/they calls the Necromancer "Death Mage", even after he tells her to please not call him that. She/they also attacks other party members appearances and preferences. What a hypocrite. The people who wrote this and self inserted themselves into that character, can't even see the irony that they refuse to acknowledge other character's preferences
It seems like a last minute "let's blame the gamer for this failure." insert for a floppy, half baked game. Now they can just say it's angry incels that gave it a low score. Funny, I actually liked Bull's second in command from Inquisition.
You literally have no clue what you're talking about lmao if you were a fan you'd know all high dragons are female hence why dragons wouldn't have kings they'd have queens and why she thinks the name is stupid because they'd never have a smaller weaker leader than the female high dragons
The "Dragon King" thing I can understand, they're dragon expert after all so ofc they're doesn't like the name that not make sense, but keep repeating that only make it more annoying. And people pointed out that other companions doesn't call them out while unlike other game, plus other things. It's just a bad written character over all. Also, the concept art of most companions are hot!!!
@@Вейн-э5бCalifornia is the epicenter of the woke ideology, it’s been a breeding ground for leftist thoughts ever since the Communists began leaking their propaganda out of San Francisco, codenamed “Project Babylon”.
@@Вейн-э5бbecause it's a mess, and most of entertainment has been head quartered there. So a lot of the stuff people dislike has been coming out of there.
The Four Horsemen of Marvel Writing: “He’s right behind me isn’t he” “Well that just happened” “That’s a X doing X/Is that an X doing X” “The X-what-y??”
More Millennial (not Marvel) Writing; "We're doing X in the middle of Y right now!" "You're totally going to do X, aren't you?" "Shut up, [famous pop culture character who vaguely looks like you!]" "Oh, I didn't know we're doing the [silly thing] today."
@@justanordinaryguy._.7399 Because teens actually express how authentically down bad they are through writing in Wattpad. But here the writing team is so afraid of saying anything remotely sensual that they write like a nice guy trying to flirt.
@@crimsonstrykrI think you have a good point. Millennial writing fails because it isn’t honest. No one actually communicates like that. Best example of millennial writing is the Life is Strange games
The way they talk is just too modern. I could maybe get past the cringy dialogue if voiced like they are in dragon age but they talk like modern people isekaid to dragon age world. It just doesn't fit.
18:54 Like can you imagine if some character in GOW or Game of Thrones suddenly say they are nonbinary? Like who comes up with that during war times? How would nonbinary people communicate that they should call themselves nonbinary? Does the "binary" word even exist in the context of their world? It all just sound so dumb.
@@tyrantsanyeah, I know Native Americans have the term "two spirit" to describe that, so idk why they couldn't use something along those lines to sound more appropriate for the setting
I was always skeptical of DA4 after most people left, then it got cancelled, then rebooted. Baldur's Gate is the spiritual successor to the Dragon Age series. R I P DA universe. it was really good.
Poor writing, cringe writing… A lot of good words for it. But yeah, as a millennial myself, there is some good stuff made by my generation. Unfortunately, we have a tendency to produce some schlock…
I liked Neve, Lucanis and Harding from the new team, everyone else to me didn’t fit as well. Bellara’s writers tried way too hard to make her into Merril 2.0 which made her way too much to be around and not to mention Taash. Which deserves to be decanonized.
Why do they look like cosplaying humans? They don't look like a different race at all. Also I really dislike that horned grey character, It's so damn cringe an the VA is just so unfitting/bad.
I wonder if that was intentional, like they expected the game to do really well and people shitload of people would want to cosplay as trash. So they made them look human to make it easier
So taash insist to Emmerich AND Davrin who they are? And has tantrum at her mother when she tries to understand and "messes up"?? Okey dokey. Typical narcissist
@@scarlette_rot Not how irony works kiddo. Then again it's pretty damn difficult trying to explain the joke to someone who clearly had their funnybone surgically removed.
@kip4993 I bought Mass Effect Andromeda on Steam for like $7 two years and have been trying to figure out how to purge it from my account as if I never bought it. Never even played it cause it's like 100 GB.
You can hear the writers kissing their own asses with that last pushup scene. Probably hoped it would catch on like some pop culture meme and reference it back to the game. Cringe as hell. Also, the writers need to consume media outside Disney and marvel, the snappy quirky dialog overstayed its welcome 10 years ago. It reeks of trying to appeal to a younger gen without knowing how.
WTF is a Grey Warden saying "we'll all die sir" like my dude you're on the clock, if you are a true warden you would do anything, ANYTHING to fight the blight.
I noticed that throughout the DA games, the writers keep making the grey wardens less and less important. Even though they are the only ones that can truly kill an Archdemon and end blights.
@@toomuchsalt1190 well... its actually quite in lore... when there is no blight, the grey warden becomes the least important thing... in fact they were so not important that during origin the numbers are so few, that one camp is basically all we had in ferelden (maybe my memory is inaccurate but the point is we won't find any more grey warden unless they send some from other regions) and also so not important that we actually had to gain some leader's favors by solving their problems before they follow us... if this was grey warden at its peak glory, the moment we announced that a blight is coming... we won't have to do like 50% of the main quests because all faction will put their problems as the last priority. that said... this in this video, when that woman said "we'll all die sir" i want to reply with... "in death, sacrifice... bitch" even though i know that she is right
The Gery Warden leader was the best character in the game (which isn’t saying anything at all) actually belonging in the setting… and his biggest character trait is he’s a “toxic man” 😂
I cringed so hard when the dwarf woman said 'that's an order' right after she disobeyed a direct order from her leader. Why would anyone listen to her or follow her orders after that? You don't undermine the authority and then call upon it when you have the upper hand.
To be fair leliana and alistar in origins werent that much better, just slightly less annoying. And morrigan was basically hot tsundere goth gf that also wanted your seed. When people say "dark fantasy" I dont think they remember all the aspects of the first game that well, there was pulpy young adult fantasy dating sim in there as well
I think this is because modern young writers do not read the classics, inspiration for writing comes from their personal lives, which is extremely unsuitable for Dragon Age game series, but normal for Netflix TV shows.
Inspiration for writing comes from my personal life as well, but I do not mirror it to a fault. I may write some characters with similar struggles or ideals to my own, but the whole point of imagination is extending your hand beyond the real and tangible. These people have no excuse outside of a woefully dry creativity
Eww. You mean they have to read some patriarchy ridden, white supremacist, racist, bigoted, hate-crime of a novel? No way. They are at least 20 years old, and their kindergarten teacher gave them a participation medal for scribbling on a page once, so they know way more than anyone else about writing. Duh.
@@hydra6094 I'm sure they hate DA Origins for their popularity and overall fan base, new developers always want to make something new for a new audience
Reminds me of one of the HotD writers (which is mostly a decent show, mind) who acknowledged that they had never seen Game of Thrones and read the books many, many years ago. Like, your JOB is to make a PREQUEL to one of the most popular shows and books ever made, and you can't even be bothered reading the material you are adapting? They basically just follow a storyboard made by the showrunner (who actually does care for the lore). Suffice to say, those are the most jarring episodes of the show and I just can't believe there aren't good writers out there who actually care about the universe and are willing to pour their heart and soul into making it as good as possible.
@magicdog9523 Let's be honest here, it took hours and hours to make this 22 minute video. How much do you think would actually be here if they didn't need to eat or sleep? Also I HIGHLY doubt that this is a 60 hour game.
I may be missing something but it's weird how you used to get informations of the long lost elvhen history from Solas and some ancient elves, and then there's Bellara who knows almost everything about it. But yeah, i may be missing something.
Also she's written poorly even as an expert so I find myself a diligent and attentive player of DA universe to be more fitting for this position rather see Bellara's occupying it😅 Ofc it's imho yet I presume a lot of people who love DA's lore will be better at this task than her...
I'm so sorry, I'm not trying to point and laugh. You never should have waited and hoped for better. Origins is the reason we have Dragon Age. What game series is nothing like Origins? Dragon Age, the wind has been blowing this way for a long time.
@@iBloodxHunter I am not an Origins purist. If you are - fine, your opinion. But I find it... Absurd. Inquisition has very good writing. Same team as Origins btw. A shame that EA pushed literally all of them out.
Maybe the Protagonist just keeps coincidentally walking into conversations at the exact moment they become gay, and keeps missing them talking about dragons and other actual interesting stuff.
@@anotherhappylanding4746 I was originally planning to do multiple playthroughs as Different backgrounds, Races, Gender, sex ect... But when I started my second playthrough I was just like "wtf am I doing, why am I putting myself through this again, it was bad enough the first time" and I just stopped playing. 😭... I am not OK.
I find it insufferable that a game marketing itself as rpg gives you so little control over what your character is saying. Yes, some other rpgs do that too (like Witcher), but they use a character with already established personality. When I spend time in character creator, I want to actually choose dialogue options. Not hear my character spit something stupid and then have some dialogue options to get out of situation I would like to not be in the first place.
Trash: “Yeah just because I wear all the stuff for the Qun doesn’t mean I follow it. Why should I care?” Also Trash: *burns a dude alive for insulting the Qun*
I think Tash is a great character . She truly shows us that a trash character must not only be hypocritical on the surface but hypocritical to the very core of the character
you can't really appreciate the genius of "Well. Wasn't expecting to fight an ogre today" without the tasteful foreshadowing of "Ogre. That's an ogre." just before it
They really lean into the camera being low looking up at Taash to try and make it seem like she's powerful but it's so forced and ham fisted it comes off as comical
Im so irritated about Taash, like, "You cant tell me who i am!" Yet does that exact thing to emmerich 😂 i really hate what they did to the Qunari, Bellara just creeps me out.
Bellara was very clearly supposed to be a Tali clone and honestly, 2:20 sounds like it could be Mass Effect dialogue. They just somehow managed to destroy any charm there would be if Tali was the one saying it
Tali was a little awkward on rare occasions but never a bumbling, ranting pointless waif like this weird elf. The writers of DAV think having a quirk is the same thing as a personality.
Знаете, я люблю шутки, разные шутки. Но весь юмор в этой игре буквально построен на диснеевский манер. Нелепость, соевость и беззубость диалогов просто удручает. И что самое грустное - 10 сука лет ждали продолжение и получили это. Я рад что они избавились от открытого мира, лично для меня один из самых слабых пунктов третьей части, но бля, что с боевкой?? Превратить драгон эйдж, в масс эффект и начхать на прошлые части это уметь надо. Уменьшили количество скиллов до 3!!!!! По такой логике в продолжении (если оно будет) будет одна активная способность и один компаньон чтобы скучно не было. Ну да ладно, в России эта игра официально не продаётся так что я просто её спиратил и мои пожелания явно не учитываются
Вчера прошла игру. Честно говоря, не получила никакого удовольствия. Хотелось побыстрее пройти все и диалоги скипать. Настолько банально и пусто все. Единственное, что мне прям понравилось это количество взаимодействий с компаньонами. Но количество не равно качество. Их личные квесты тоже вышли убогими и предсказуемыми
А ведь мы ещё Инквизицию ругали. Хочу перед ней извиниться теперь. Вернись, я все прощу 😅 А если серьезно... Надеюсь, что эта фигня провалится и они перестанут мучить серию и фанатов.
With the new art style and dialogue, this could have just been a new IP aimed at teenagers. Instead this feels like Dragon Age : Daddy Day Care. I like the MCU but the quippy humour doesn't suit everything.
Lore is that male dragons never grow bigger than drakes, grow wings, or establish territory. Only females do that so only females can become high dragons. If Dragon King means “male dragon that has ascended to rule over other dragons” then yes, it would be inappropriate to object. No drake would be higher than the high dragons. If Dragon King means “male who rules over dragons” then it should be just fine and Taash is just being petulant because she wants to be the ruler. Taash is pretending the former, but we know it’s the latter.
@@abcdefghij337 Lore is also that some of the archdemons were males. In Veilguard it is stated that the difference to a regular dragon is just that their souls are bound. So male high dragons are apparently so rare that they would be worth the title of king
NGL, i feel with Rook there when he says "Please get there faster, Harding" If i ever have to hear the person who voiced Traash make these sounds into a microphone again, i'm going to Krill myself and i have a seafood allergy.
Please, can someone, ANYONE, tell me any rational sane explanation WHY Bellara is even a thing? Among every other characters she is the one that can be replaced ENTIRELY by Merrill. Merrill also had history with eluvians, both are shy and socially awkward, both babbling, both are elves. I cannot find a single reason why did they had to create entirely new character instead of use the one that they already had. I mean, of course, any other reason than "visibly asian character" that is somehow supposed to fill the place for the asian representation within the story. That argument I reject from the start since it's not necessary point especially since DA series did already enough retconning so one more woudn't make a difference, so Merrill being asian should not be a problem if the representation is so much necessary. Any suggestions? Anyone?
Merrill is a companion that could die in prior entries of Bioware. Additionally, she could also be romanced by Hawke. Obviously, this means such a character comes with a lot of baggage; not to mention, Merrill's story is pretty much over. Her character arc has been done with. So, they created a new character without any of that baggage so that they could have their own character arc. Bellara's main character trait isn't actually her social awkwardness or her tendency to ramble but rather her depression and her tendency to feel guilty over things. These factors translate into her throwing herself at her work to an unhealthy degree, checking over things far more than she ought to, and staying up late in the night and tiring herself out. I'd argue she's one of the better written characters in Veilguard when you look at her because she has inner conflict, a goal if you explore her companion quests, and (I haven't finished the game but I'd guess since the game is addressing this through the quest) an actual character arc that makes sense. Not to mention, she is one of the few party members who reacts appropriately to grave events in the game like Weisshaupt (which you might not expect given the intro to the game presents her as this overly quippy character lmao) The other good characters, I would say, are Emmerich (who's just kinda cool, and has a backstory and a depth to him other companions don't really have) and Davrin (again, he feels real, he's not super quippy, he has good quests and a good goal and is used appropriately in the story). Lucanis had potential but the execution is leaving me wanting so far, Harding was lame at first but is starting to be more interesting now that we're looking into her magic, and Neve also had potential but finds herself underutilized and not executed so well. As for Taash I agree with literally everyone else, it's a shit character
@@LVD3NS Ok, I see your point. That however doesn't explain this entirely. "such a character comes with a lot of baggage; not to mention, Merrill's story is pretty much over. Her character arc has been done with" - That never stopped them before. Morrigan, Leliana both had their stories "technically" ended in origins. Both had continuations DESPITE BOTH being possibly dead. Oh, and do we remember Kieran? Well, I apperently CANNOT remember him since he never existed apparently. Also, that "baggage" doesn't influence neither the messsage nor character. Simply get the story and add some reasoning to that WHY this character would went in that direction. Makes perfect sense. Since history has been changed so the "canon" is pretty much stated with only minor (3? If I remember correctly) detailes that may be different I don't see why reducing that one extra thing would be an issue. "Bellara's main character trait isn't actually her social awkwardness or her tendency to ramble but rather her depression and her tendency to feel guilty over things" - I never said that was the main point of that character. You either misunderstood or purposfully misrepresent my point here (no, I will not give you benefit of the doubt, I'm assuming that you do the latter, I'm too tired to be the one who respects everyone else while not getting even half of it in exchange) which already makes me not want to hear any further argument as if they were made in good faith. Just letting you know. My point was, if you are going to use THE EXACT SAME CHARACTER trope, the same personality, race etc. just use the same character. IF you're going to make entirely new character, don't make them so similar so the comparison is TOO EASY to make. "tendency to feel guilty over things. These factors translate into her throwing herself at her work to an unhealthy degree, checking over things far more than she ought to, and staying up late in the night and tiring herself out." - exacly what would Merrill do. Her entire story with Eluvians was pretty much her doing exact same thing and if her clan was killed because of this... here's the guilt. "Not to mention, she is one of the few party members who reacts appropriately to grave events in the game" - You mean she is one of the few in DAV while I'd argue most in previous games would be the same? That's a terrible point given the fact on radicalisation of opinions about the game. It's either GENIUS and BRILLIANT or SHIT and TERRIBLE. You make a point about characters being "not-that-bad" but all I can see is Emmerich (I agree, he's the most universally liked character. (I agree with that mostly because he is the most distanced from everything else)) BUT I must burst your bubble about him being in any mean original. Such character was already created. He is just a copy of Lantry from Tyranny with class being necromancer as it's been seen that the concept of this school of magic was underdeveloped in Inquisition by having only Dorian and Cassandra mentioning it briefly. Emmerich even looks like Lantry, the face, the hair, the outfit (a little bit more elegant but that just so he would fit into the world). About Davrin, honestly I have no opinion. He's not interesting to me. Lucanis again is a character that mimic real-world characteristics from real-world nations. Bellara is (non-indian) asian and Lucanis is Spanish. I understand SOME things are supposed to be pararells but involving real-world races and cultures to a fictional ones is as bad as Taash "I'm non-binary" using modern launguage to explain phenomenons in fantasy settings. I'm not saying they can't be that, but please Bioware, explain this to me NOT using direct launguage. I haven't heard the word "trans" about Krem, but I understood what he was and had no problem with that. Such direct message makes you detest the character since it works like She-Hulk series, breaking 4-th wall instead of working as in-universe message. So, make Lucanis Antivan, not Spanish. One base on the other, but is NOT entirely the same. It cannot be. The same with Bellara. My theory is EXACLY so there would be a VISIBLY asian character in the game. But the thing is, we had Vivienne who happened to be black and there was no real-world racism towards her or anyone based on the merit of color of skin. THAT'S alone makes such representations like Lucanis and Bellara's real-world nationalities pointless. Let's remind ourselves that while Vivienne was one of most hated character in entire series (oh no, conservative (yeah, right) black person, how-ever will I survive) and lately controversial ENOUGH Wyll in BG3 was reduced from complicated beta version to one-dimentional morally character. No wonder he's most forgotten character. It is implied that it was the fear of creators of making a controversial minority character as others did. And look at this, we are not supposed to dislike minority characters like Lucanis, Bellara or Dorian because they are OBVIOUSLY good. Taash is good distraction from other mistakes or bland writing so let's ignore it's existence entirely. Let's not focus on that because I don't believe this wasn't on purpose to, by comparison, make other characters feel better, more relevant or seem better written. I don't understand why on earth bring back Harding an additional character to have ANY connection to the rest of the story. That's my point, if Harding is ok, why not Merrill? They could have add new character here. Why didn't they? And why they did for Bellara? Or, hear me out, they could have added Valta. That would make more sense since she already had contact with one Titan. Why give such connection to the one that supposively never had contact with one and it is said that she was from the surface in hinterlands. That makes believability of her connections to the titans lesser than let's say Valta's. Neve takes place as the one who "introduces" you to the place and knowledge of the world, such as it is. Dante's Virgil in Tevinter. In origins such introduction was made by Duncan as a narrator, in DA2 by Varric, in DAI by Cassandra (mostly). A some sort of character that is a tutorial character. The one who is "the deepest" in the world, has the most knowledge about what-the-hell-is-going-on in the world. Since DAV is suggesting different approach than most games up to this point ("I have amnesia", "I just woke up", "I'm new to this place", "I'm just a player, explain to me the very basic of day-to-day existence that my character lived for over (at least) 20 years" etc.) such character seems to be not really needed. Maevaris Tilani could have easly feel Neve's role BUT here I believe this was good decision. Similarily like Cassandra who was in different type of media, Neve wasn't directly in previous story, like Rhys and Evangeline, she was in books and not in games and yet mentioning or even involving one in one or another direction of medias is good strategy to connect different media's stories to make them more connected so they would feel more like one whole picture instead of being some sort of spin-offs or alternate realities or even multiversums. In short: - Merrill is NOT a character that necessarilly is done. Or at least we know nothing about it. If we can kill Leliana in Origins and than she comes back, that rule should expand to Merrill as well. - I still see Bellara as not using rule of Occam (is that really how he is written in english? Weird.) razor. Not necessary character when a proper one already exists. - Characters are bland overall and are made to look better by creating (on purpose I presume) a terrible one that catches all negative attention.
@@przemyslawwasowski7450 I want to start my reply by saying I was not trying to purposefully misrepresent any of your points, nor was I trying to ascribe to your post things you never said by speaking on Bellara's characteristics. I simply wanted to share my thoughts on who Bellara was as a character and why I thought she wasn't so bad. I apologize if this came across as a bad faith attempt to derail the conversation or to misrepresent your post; that was not my intention at all. Admittedly, Bellara and Merrill are very similar characters. Actually, my first thoughts when I saw Bellara was that she seemed a little like a rethread -- or a mix -- of Tali and Merrill; she's interested in what is essentially technology, is young and socially awkward, and has similar personality traits to Tali and Merrill. With that out of the way, let me address each point of your post, one by one. You compare Merrill, in this situation, to Leliana and Morrigan. The problem is that Leliana and Morrigan were not companions in the subsequent games; they were advisors. In fact, the only recurrent companion in Dragon Age has been Varric, who appeared in Dragon Age 2 and Dragon Age Inquisition both. Don't quote me on that either, but Varric was far less interesting in Inquisition than in Dragon Age 2; his character had already been explored in Dragon Age 2, so what could be done further with Varric in Inquisition was a little limited. Hence, comparing Morrigan and Leliana's situation to Merrill and Bellara isn't, in my opinion, an apt comparison. Veilguard also wanted its characters to be romanceable -- and this is important to Dragon Age fans, believe it or not, because romances have always been very popular, and one of the main sources of attention for Dragon Age as a series. Romances also increase fan engagement in the franchise; a lot of art, fanfiction, and discussion revolves around these potential relationships with each companion. This was also true of Mass Effect. Whether you agree with this decision or not is up to you, but I believe that, if the developers wanted each companion to be romanceable, Merrill could not be an option, because she could potentially be romanced by Hawke. Having that be out of the canon completely or having her break up with Hawke after the game for seemingly no reason would have gone over even worse for the game. I also stand by what I said when I said Merrill's story is done and that there probably isn't much more to explore from her. Her story revolved mostly around her clan and her struggles to fit in, alongside her problems with the keeper, problems with demons, and her willingness to use forbidden means, like blood magic or the Eluvian, to do certain things. As an aside, that's already very different from Bellara's character, who doesn't struggle with these things at all and instead struggles with guilt she shouldn't feel and with doing the right thing always but not necessarily being able to. That's not to mention Veilguard takes place around twelve years after Dragon Age 2. That's a lot of time for people to change; Merrill, if I recall correctly, was characterized by her youthfulness, but also by the fact that she was next in line to be a Dalish keeper. If that's no longer there, then Merrill already changes as a character. This is why using Merrill in place of Bellara wouldn't work, or at least would be much more complicated for the developers. I suspect that it is also these reasons that motivated the developers to make a new character. As for your further discussion on the other characters, I think all I have to say about it is, never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence. I've already spoken on Bellara and why I personally warmed up to her, so I won't pad out my comment with more of that. I'll just say I honestly don't really mind that she's Asian. The Veil Jumpers around her aren't really Asian either (well; some of them are) but I assume the elves in Arlathan come from all over to explore their past. And besides asian girls are usually qt3.1415 and I would say Bellara kinda fits that... Emmerich is cool. I have Tyranny, but I haven't gotten around to playing it yet. I therefore am unfamiliar with the character you speak of, but if what you said is true, it is somewhat disheartening to see. Still, Emmerich's quest, which I'm getting into, is pretty fun, and Manfred is a cool guy to have around too. I'm intrigued to see where his story goes next. I like Davrin because he seems like a well-rounded, well-written character. I wasn't expecting that given Bioware's track record with black characters (JACOB TAYLOR LOL) or Wyll's lackluster character writing in BG3 (I agree with you when you say he was neutered in the game. Dude has literally no character arc or character development, he is just a boring good guy). His relationship with Assan gives him a good path to character development, but he also reacts quite a bit to the game's events, especially those concerning wardens, and has a goal and purpose that I can understand very well. Finally, I like that he and my Warden Rook are bros. It feels good to discuss warden matters with him and to explore life as a warden again. I missed that from DAO. Harding started off unimpressive. Sometimes, she acted like a child. After the first act however, her quests genuinely become interesting, and her gift for titan magic is genuinely an intriguing storyline to follow. She also feels more fleshed out now, speaking about her time with the Inquisition and her experience as a scout, and sharing her thoughts on things that are happening or on her magic gift. She is not my favorite, but I also find her relatively good. Not great, but good enough. I think using Valta might have been a good idea though, honestly, but I can't fault them for bringing back Harding given that she was one of the more popular and memorable side characters of Inquisition (and many people wanted to romance her). As for the assassin of the party, I don't really see an issue with Lucanis appearing to be Spanish. It feels mostly natural to me that people from different parts of Thedas would look and speak in different ways, and it's honestly fairly consistent that the Crows in Treviso look like that and talk like that. I see no issue there. The problem mainly lies in the fact that there was more that could be done with him that just wasn't. Spite feels underutilized, and he talks way too much about coffee. Apart from that he has some highs in his writing, namely everything relating to the Crows and Treviso, and the flavor around his relationship with Spite, as well as his banter. Neve is... okay. She does not stand out in this cast. She is not badly written or anything, but I find her mediocre overall. She is the average jaded noir detective who's cold and guarded because she doesn't want to get close in case she gets hurt. There might be more to her storyline that I haven't explored yet, but so far she leaves neither a bad impression nor a good impression. I will say I find her voice fits her well, even if a lot of people say her voice actress was bad. She does sound like a jaded, stoic, guarded detective tired of everything going on. Taash does not seem like a purposefully badly written character to me. She more feels like a self-insert, or a rushed character with little thought put into her, as opposed to someone you are meant to dislike. This is mainly because the game forces you to agree with her and you can hardly criticize her at all even when she pulls actual bullshit in the game. It really just comes across as if she's her writer's favorite character, or straight up self-insert (her writer was non-binary as well.)
@@LVD3NS Part I "I want to start my reply by saying..." - understood, in that case, fair enough, no harm done... for now.
"The problem is that Leliana and Morrigan were not companions in the subsequent games; they were advisors" - that was not my point. My point was regarding mostly your answer that Merrill can potentially die in DA2 which could make result with her being unavailable when the same happened with Leliana, Morrigan, additionally Anders technically Wynne and Shale (books imply that they lived so technically according to the rules stated by Veilguard they did live) etc. It was about potentially dead character returning even though they technically shouldn't. Leliana got back in Inquisition (I don't remember if she returns in DA2 if she was "struck down" in the temple of sacred ashes) even if she died. Not about them being in the next iteration of the series. About romances - that is mostly true, although Hawke is not here anymore and I don't remember if that was addressed in Veilguard, but it could be arreanged in the game then and make another plot point of romance and at the same motive as being able to love after your first love died. If I remember correctly only Aveline and Cassandra had such motive. I'm not that attached to that point so I'm not going to defend it more than I feel I should or want. Clarifying Hawke's death and "forcing" his/her death is a non-issue since most of world-state is forced to some sort of produced canon. "Her story revolved mostly around her clan and her struggles to fit in, alongside her problems with the keeper, problems with demons, and her willingness to use forbidden means, like blood magic or the Eluvian, to do certain things." - That's true, but I'm afraid that's not how our minds work. Her story THEN was finished. Life goes on and eventually we do something else with our lives, go further, learn new things, involve oursleves in new things. Nothing shows from what you said that the same things couldn't be pinned to Merrill. Also, this could be a good opportunity to show other motive, PTSD, give her nightmares related to her past and let her make peace with it. "This is why using Merrill in place of Bellara wouldn't work, or at least would be much more complicated for the developers. I suspect that it is also these reasons that motivated the developers to make a new character." - and yet it was not a problem to complicate things with Harding... I see your point, yet I'm not convinced. "It's too hard" is rarely an excuse when rest of the story is not believable as well. "I honestly don't really mind that she's Asian" - It's not that I mind that, it's more like it feels to as this game took too seriously the matter of representation as of directly related to our world. In fantasy where real-life issues are paralleled it's not the best idea to brute-force real life concepts because you can mess up the message. There is a reason characters like Vivienne or Wyll (BG3) never expirienced racism from our real life due to color of their skin. It is important in storytelling to detect about what world we are talking about. Bellara can be asian or not. My issue is that it seems extremely representational which shows especially for me since I'm not american and "showing representaion" is made in VERY AMERICAN way (meaning, you have to have minority characters such as sexual one(of any kind), a black, a mexican, an asian. But for example no slavs, no nordics... I wonder why...) "Emmerich is cool [...], but if what you said is true, it is somewhat disheartening to see" - I wouldn't say it should be disheartening. It was just my assesment based on knowing the tropes such as this. I could just as well compare Emmerich to Wynne or some other characters with such traits (can't remember them in this minute). It was only to show that it's not as original like "O wow, there was never such character before!!!1!1!". Inspiration exist, and maybe Sylvia Feketekuty (writer of the character) played Tyranny and thought about creating original character and subcountiously her thoughts led her to this. Even copyright law recognise that as valid. tyranny.fandom.com/wiki/Lantry - that so you could compare their appearances. For me their head shapes, eyes (just eyes, not brows), noses, jaw shape, even face expressions (as limited for Tyranny) are similar. Obviously, NOT the same, facial hair are different and quality of clothing is different but that is more in-world-characteristics difference. Also cultural one. And here I discovered that I wrote his name wrongly. It's Emmrich not Emmerich. I misstook his name with the werewolf guy from Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter. " I think using Valta might have been a good idea though, honestly, but I can't fault them for bringing back Harding given that she was one of the more popular and memorable side characters of Inquisition (and many people wanted to romance her)." - THAT... is half of my issue here. As you said, romances are VERY important for this game, I agree, BUT Bioware was dodging this topic for a long time, dating a dwarf I mean (moronic sentiment in my opinion, it's not the same "type" of dwarf) and now suddenly it's not an issue? Varric returning in Inquisition was part of that excuse. We have semi-taken guy from previous game who is not interested i relationship to not introduce new character who could be a dateable dwarf. Harding as much as could be flirted with, her "dating" in Inquisition was on the same level as Sebastian romance - not really recognized by the game. I'm also do believe that when making a present for someone (and creating a game in that case) you cannot only focus on what people want and expect from you (in that case it would be fan service), but also give something new, something from yourself. When I was 8 for my birthday I wanted expantion pack for the sims 1 but instead my uncle gave me Icewind Dale series which led me to next RPGs and then later to further games. It wasn't what I wanted, but retrospectively, it was what I needed. I think, putting Valta in the game would be better option simply because of it. Harding can appear as childish because from what I remember she's still young or at least she is meant to be seen as such. So that I wouldn't count as bad thing. I'd think about it as similar to Sera situation. Still, kind of off-putting to place surface adrastian dwarf as one to have connection to the stone. I mean, I get that, AND I get the implications, but still, Valta is right there. I'm just afraid that mass firing in Bioware showed that new employees might have not even played the previous games. With BG3 I can forgive that, different studio, but here? And to clarify your previous point, no, malice and incompetence are not so far from eachother. While malice imply intention, the results stays many times the same and for a receiver it doesn't make much differnce. At least not for me. Intentions vs results. Old philosophical matter. Already gotten old and boring. "As for the assassin of the party, I don't really see an issue with Lucanis appearing to be Spanish" - as I said, it's not an issue per se that he is or isn't directly of different culture. It's more of an issue of conflating real-life characteristics with the fantasy written ones. You DON'T want to do that in your fantasy. That's a bad writing. Some words "Braska" for "damn" that are Antivan are already set. When crating already established (even if limited) form of launguage in-world conflating it and mixing with real world lauguage as I've seen they recall their family members in spanish makes it no-longer be inspired by Spain and it becomes to BE Spain. That is important detail. Not so much important for those who don't dwell in mechanics of the worldbuilding and important details. As I already said, Veilguard seem to be targetted mostly for american receiver who WANTS such representaions, who demands them, who sees those as those close to them, as those identifiable for them. American receiver doesn't need representation of a character who have alcohol problem, is cleptomaniac, lived/raised in poverty and raises their young in fear of a slipper (or some other indoor footwear - which itself is incommunicable on it's own). To be continued...
We did get some bangers this year, but why were there so many games like this that are cringe as hell? Suicide Squad, Concord, Dustborn, and now this. The only upside is that they all flopped HARD.
I hear Suicide Squad has good combat? But I won't give them my money to verify. Among other things, I really hate they decided to genderbend Freeze, instead of just swapping the story and have Nora be the one trying to save Freeze.
Still don't understand why a fantasy RPG with a seemingly serious, dark and dramatic main narrative has to force laughably bad sitcom humor into itself, in a manner that it cannot be avoided. It completely ruins the tone and atmosphere of the game. Compare the Yakuza games; especially dramatic and serious main story, supplemented with ridiculous and humorous side activities. The difference is that you can avoid these things completely if you want to. When you want to progress the main narrative, it stays consistant in its tone, and when you're in the mood for funny and light-hearted content, you can do the side activities. Veilguard shoves the humour and sitcom onto unavoidable sections of the game, and force feeds it unto the player
Taash and Bellara are the most insufferable characters I've seen in a while, and what makes it worse is probably how confidently the devs expected them to be otherwise given how obnoxiously tryhard they feel
Out of context is the perfect way to describe this game. This game is wild, you get done fighting a god in this cool boss fight to only be greeted back at your base by two women arguing about a dress and how one doesn’t feel comfortable being a woman anymore. You can’t avoid it either, you are forced to partake and listen to this conversation. It’s straight up propaganda. I couldn’t imagine being the son of a maga guy and hearing this stuff coming from his son’s bedroom because he wanted to play dragon age. Call 911 pls because dad is punching the drywall over trans elves. I’m all for people living the life they want and being accepted but stop shoving it down everyone’s throats. This stuff shouldn’t be anywhere near a fantasy rpg.
Stop calling it millennial writing! I was born in 1986 and I’m almost 40! I didn’t grow with any of this woke crap! I didn’t have the internet until I was 20 years old!
Hey, thanks for the feedback. I alternated the title of the video, calling it a millennial writing wasn't very accurate. Unlike Bioware, I'm always ready to listen to you guys. 👍
According to wikipedia millennials are anyone from gen y or gen x combined (meaning anyone born early 1980s to late 1990/early 2000). I do agree it's not 100% accurate but it's still millennial writing, since it's the later half (Gen X) who are writing this kind garbage, people who are 20 to 30 y/o right.. my generation :)
@@Dwyrielbelieve me, if only you guys would watch certain movies or read certain novels from 40y ago, you would find some truly TERRIBLE writing, and the hallmarks of boomer writing have nothing to do with it: it's just bad writers are born in every generation.
@@francesco3772 There's bad writers in every generation, lots of them. Point is, if you analyse the writing on this game, it is, by definition, what we call "millennial writing". Marvel style conversation, "quirky comebacks" and jokes, modern slangs like "oof", and the weird "comedic timing" in some scenes with the poor dialog.
They must've been smoking some powerful crack when they designed Taash because holy hell what an unappealing character visually and personality wise. The one compliment I will give this game is the hair material. Looks pretty good and doesn't suffer from crappy lighting. Might be a bit too clean for Dragon Age, but i can't deny it looks nice.
The issue I have is that the game doesn't allow characters to yell, be angry, or swear. Also, in most cases, things are explicitly spelt out for us, where they should allow us to read between the lines. It might come across as bad because the dialogue lacks depth a lot of the time, and I don’t feel like they react naturally. I would still encourage people to give the game a try. It may be Marvelised, but the game is entertaining, and it has its moments.
0:29 I disagree with this one, it might be the only time I've chuckled at anything related to Veilguard. We're making the problem worse and leaving. I'm sure a lot of the people who played only wish they could choose who to inflict those two on.
More Dragon Age Veilguard videos:
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Dragon Age Veilguard is a Group Therapy: The Videogame ruclips.net/video/e3f7iBGNiag/видео.html
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Dealing with annoying companions in Dragon Age the Veilguard VS Baldur's Gate 3 ruclips.net/video/Hs0rW9ssoJ0/видео.html
The non-binary character who insists to be called "they", refuses Dragon King's name, saying he should be a Queen. She/they calls the Necromancer "Death Mage", even after he tells her to please not call him that. She/they also attacks other party members appearances and preferences. What a hypocrite. The people who wrote this and self inserted themselves into that character, can't even see the irony that they refuse to acknowledge other character's preferences
It seems like a last minute "let's blame the gamer for this failure." insert for a floppy, half baked game. Now they can just say it's angry incels that gave it a low score. Funny, I actually liked Bull's second in command from Inquisition.
You literally have no clue what you're talking about lmao if you were a fan you'd know all high dragons are female hence why dragons wouldn't have kings they'd have queens and why she thinks the name is stupid because they'd never have a smaller weaker leader than the female high dragons
The "Dragon King" thing I can understand, they're dragon expert after all so ofc they're doesn't like the name that not make sense, but keep repeating that only make it more annoying.
And people pointed out that other companions doesn't call them out while unlike other game, plus other things. It's just a bad written character over all.
Also, the concept art of most companions are hot!!!
@@greenbyob Kremisius Aclassi is a trans character done right.
You know what would of been cool? If the trans character did the opposite of that, since she is trans.
Marvel movie writing and its consequences have been a disaster for the world of media and entertainment.
I know Marvel has had a rough patch… but even it isn’t THIS bad. This is something else entirely.
@@LocksAndChainsnah this is definitely on par. Y'all forgot how fucking bad Thor Love and Thunder was
It works for the earlier marvel movies but it doesnt work for anything else
Marvel-ization. Also some of the voice acting is just straight up bad.
Don't forget about Game of Thrones.
How did we go from a high fantasy medieval setting to a Californian high school?
What's wrong specifically with California why it gets memed on so often? I just don't get it.
@@Вейн-э5бCalifornians are a culture-less bunch of Americans. Also, we tend to be stuck up.
@@Вейн-э5бCalifornia is the epicenter of the woke ideology, it’s been a breeding ground for leftist thoughts ever since the Communists began leaking their propaganda out of San Francisco, codenamed “Project Babylon”.
@@Вейн-э5б nothing wrong with it,they are just saying it's too modern and childish
@@Вейн-э5бbecause it's a mess, and most of entertainment has been head quartered there. So a lot of the stuff people dislike has been coming out of there.
Taash literally uses every scene as an excuse to trauma dump. Good lord, this character is insufferable.
Not to mention she makes everything about her…
But you don't understand! Taash has it so hard with the mommy issues! Only Taash has trauma and can do nothing wrong! /s
Cause she is a self-insert and meant to teach everyone about non-binary
So non binary person is whiny and hypocrite.... Sounds about right
honestly the game is so much better if you just pretend they don't exist and don't play any of their quests LOL
The Four Horsemen of Marvel Writing:
“He’s right behind me isn’t he”
“Well that just happened”
“That’s a X doing X/Is that an X doing X”
“The X-what-y??”
honorable mention to: "I wasnt expecting to X today"
“Um… i ate that thing!” ☝️😳
“Guys… hes right behind me isn’t he….” 😳
Find the x!
What’s an x look like?
It looks like an x but uhm… much much worse !
More Millennial (not Marvel) Writing;
"We're doing X in the middle of Y right now!"
"You're totally going to do X, aren't you?"
"Shut up, [famous pop culture character who vaguely looks like you!]"
"Oh, I didn't know we're doing the [silly thing] today."
"Well, that was awkward." is actually in the game wtf
Teen on Wattpad wrote better story than whatever this is
Fr, reading random Wattpad stories was more engaged than whatever this is.
@@justanordinaryguy._.7399 Because teens actually express how authentically down bad they are through writing in Wattpad. But here the writing team is so afraid of saying anything remotely sensual that they write like a nice guy trying to flirt.
@@crimsonstrykrI think you have a good point. Millennial writing fails because it isn’t honest. No one actually communicates like that.
Best example of millennial writing is the Life is Strange games
Mass Effect 4 is fckd.
Yep, DA gone to hell, ME probably wil go to...Last straw for me would be KOTOR remake from this team of amateurs with feelings.
@@MartinSeda KOTOR remake is being developed by Saber, who just released the awesome Space Marine 2. In confident in them
As far as I’m concerned, I won’t be canon. I have my perfect trilogy and it will be forever sacred. Anything else will be ignored.
Or maybe they will learn with their mistakes.
But I bet the community will want the game to fail anyway.
Yup 😢. Be prepared for terrible dialogue, awful squad mates, fake choices, and all the smart writing/world building being run into the ground.
The way they talk is just too modern. I could maybe get past the cringy dialogue if voiced like they are in dragon age but they talk like modern people isekaid to dragon age world. It just doesn't fit.
18:54 Like can you imagine if some character in GOW or Game of Thrones suddenly say they are nonbinary? Like who comes up with that during war times? How would nonbinary people communicate that they should call themselves nonbinary? Does the "binary" word even exist in the context of their world? It all just sound so dumb.
@@tyrantsanyeah, I know Native Americans have the term "two spirit" to describe that, so idk why they couldn't use something along those lines to sound more appropriate for the setting
EXACTLYYY they could have gone about all this in a COMPLETELY different way. they could have SHOWN not TOLD, yk??
@@Aliasfakename123two spirit is also a new invention lol
They talk as if they were in Starbucks, not as if the gods were on a rampage destroying the world.
I like how we went from the first game of multitude of voice pitches accents and identifications to....English speaking cardboard boxes
Emmerich is actually a good one but he's lost in the sea of generic ass american accents 😢
Hey, even cardboard boxes are fun with a little imagination.
These characters are written more like a bag of dog turds. 😂
F to all the poor bastards waiting several console generations for a conclusion to this story, now never to be
Ten years of waiting for Veilguard I wish I spend the time mourning instead of celebrating the day DA4 would come out.
It has been 10 long years.
@@GreyWardenArlethaVakarian i miss dreadwolf
every day i wake up and im in terrible pain because im both a saint row fan and a dragon age fan.
I was always skeptical of DA4 after most people left, then it got cancelled, then rebooted. Baldur's Gate is the spiritual successor to the Dragon Age series. R I P DA universe. it was really good.
This is not millennial writing. This is just poor writing 😅
I agree, that title was quite a bit inaccurate. Thanks for the feedback. Unlike Bioware, I'm always open to the suggestions 👍
@@TerakJK Thank you for considering my feedback 🙏
Social inept, probably the writer is bullied kid back in highschool
Poor writing, cringe writing… A lot of good words for it. But yeah, as a millennial myself, there is some good stuff made by my generation. Unfortunately, we have a tendency to produce some schlock…
@@LocksAndChains I don't usually mind "cringe humor" but this is just cringe and not humorous.
You don't bend your knees when doing pushups, I don't think the writers have ever done any.
They're called girl pushups
She also only did five of them instead of ten.
Not to mention, if 10 push-ups makes you sweat, you are in terrible physical shape.
@@qu1253 but she is a rouge... she has to fight with acrobatic moves and stab people you know
thats on the animators
For a fantasy game, this is the worst dialogue I’ve ever seen. It’s not just one scene, it’s every time they talk.
About 5% of them aren't bad, they just don`t fit a DA game, 95% are pure cringe.
I liked Neve, Lucanis and Harding from the new team, everyone else to me didn’t fit as well. Bellara’s writers tried way too hard to make her into Merril 2.0 which made her way too much to be around and not to mention Taash. Which deserves to be decanonized.
That Qunari turns every conversation into a moment for self exposition. What an insufferable person!
Every talk with Trash seems like an HR team is right behind you.
Shes no true Qunari. Nothing in the slightest like Sten.
@@asliceofloaf1984 Tal-Vashoth.
@asliceofloaf1984 shut up Chud
Is there a way to kill her, kick her out of the group, or just not recruit them in the game?
Why do they look like cosplaying humans? They don't look like a different race at all. Also I really dislike that horned grey character, It's so damn cringe an the VA is just so unfitting/bad.
The Qunari? Yeah she sucks.
I wonder if that was intentional, like they expected the game to do really well and people shitload of people would want to cosplay as trash. So they made them look human to make it easier
That is an abomination:elder maxson
@Ihazfunkitty Definitely sounds like "pulling a Barve" was an internet fad they wanted to start
Taash is Trash.
So taash insist to Emmerich AND Davrin who they are? And has tantrum at her mother when she tries to understand and "messes up"?? Okey dokey. Typical narcissist
Also every time she roars and/or growls it sounds like she has a sore throat.
@@georgeray1906more like burping without any gas.
10 years……for this
This version of the game was actually made in 3 and a half years. 😂
I hate them
im really worried about mass effect 4.
@@adrianrossellruiz8904Andromeda already exists 😂
Ikr. So disappointing...
sitcom writing lmao they even leave little pauses for a laugh track 💀
It’s a shame that Rook has a good VA. He can do great delivery, but can’t get any good lines
Yeah his voice is a bit too serious and mature for this Play-Doh/Mac and cheese version of dragon age
It feels like Rook is the only mostly normal one and ends up sounding perpetually confused by all the clowns in this circus.
Taas need to be modded out of this game
You mean Trash?
I agree
Try to put that mod on Nexus.
@@JaBBerSmack better in basedmods.
Oh no then Nexus will remove it, but killable children mod will still stay there.
Californian Age : The Failguard
The safeguard
You're making fun of the dialogue in the game for being unfunny and cringe, yet here you are dropping this banger. Fuck, the irony.
Gayguard
@@scarlette_rot Eww American...
@@scarlette_rot Not how irony works kiddo. Then again it's pretty damn difficult trying to explain the joke to someone who clearly had their funnybone surgically removed.
Bellara is very cringe but Taash will kill the game sales.
Bellara is just annoying, but Trash is completely insufferable
@@sonictelephone1526 I hate Trash, not even worth recycling
Bellara is the epitome of reddit, her dialogue and voice both.
and the non-binary thing is the Tumblr/Tiktok representative
It's genz bs
Nah; she isn't obese enough or ug ly enough to be from Reddit. She's also a biological female.
@@pappico nah, she the twitter representative
I cant stand her triangle face and how she talks like she hosts a childrens tv show.
Feels like I'm watching a Disney Channel Sitcom
Bad writing and dialogue know no Generation or gender. Just the rage of every English teacher.
I thought that after Mass effect Andromeda the writing couldn't get worse, boy was I proven wrong
I liked Andromeda but it didn't live up to Shepards trilogy.
Sorry my face is tired
@kip4993
I bought Mass Effect Andromeda on Steam for like $7 two years and have been trying to figure out how to purge it from my account as if I never bought it. Never even played it cause it's like 100 GB.
Sound like you missed anthem story.....
Andromeda was just buggy on launch. The new setting needed time to mature, this is something else
You can hear the writers kissing their own asses with that last pushup scene. Probably hoped it would catch on like some pop culture meme and reference it back to the game. Cringe as hell. Also, the writers need to consume media outside Disney and marvel, the snappy quirky dialog overstayed its welcome 10 years ago. It reeks of trying to appeal to a younger gen without knowing how.
100%
This legitimately sounds like the creators of Velma wrote this.
WTF is a Grey Warden saying "we'll all die sir" like my dude you're on the clock, if you are a true warden you would do anything, ANYTHING to fight the blight.
jesus... i wish there was a chance for me to reply with "in death, sacrifice.... bitch" when he say that
I noticed that throughout the DA games, the writers keep making the grey wardens less and less important. Even though they are the only ones that can truly kill an Archdemon and end blights.
@@toomuchsalt1190 well... its actually quite in lore... when there is no blight, the grey warden becomes the least important thing...
in fact they were so not important that during origin the numbers are so few, that one camp is basically all we had in ferelden (maybe my memory is inaccurate but the point is we won't find any more grey warden unless they send some from other regions)
and also so not important that we actually had to gain some leader's favors by solving their problems before they follow us... if this was grey warden at its peak glory, the moment we announced that a blight is coming... we won't have to do like 50% of the main quests because all faction will put their problems as the last priority.
that said... this in this video, when that woman said "we'll all die sir" i want to reply with... "in death, sacrifice... bitch" even though i know that she is right
The Gery Warden leader was the best character in the game (which isn’t saying anything at all) actually belonging in the setting… and his biggest character trait is he’s a “toxic man” 😂
I cringed so hard when the dwarf woman said 'that's an order' right after she disobeyed a direct order from her leader. Why would anyone listen to her or follow her orders after that? You don't undermine the authority and then call upon it when you have the upper hand.
as a dragon age fan i cant defend or even play this game. i just cant.
As a queer dragon age fan, I can't either. The writing is shit and gives the LGBTQ community an even worse rep.
inorganic, hyper self aware, uninteresting garbage dialog with nothing to say
They took my dark fantasy and turned it into a quirky, whacky, zainy millennial dating sim 🤣🤮
To be fair leliana and alistar in origins werent that much better, just slightly less annoying. And morrigan was basically hot tsundere goth gf that also wanted your seed. When people say "dark fantasy" I dont think they remember all the aspects of the first game that well, there was pulpy young adult fantasy dating sim in there as well
Everytime Taash roars I cringe into a black hole
And since when could Qunari breath fire or did the mom pull a firebreather
Same with a pinch of WTF.
Like they're writing a comedy and insisting it's a tragedy.
It is a tragedy, just not in the way they intended.
I think this is because modern young writers do not read the classics, inspiration for writing comes from their personal lives, which is extremely unsuitable for Dragon Age game series, but normal for Netflix TV shows.
Inspiration for writing comes from my personal life as well, but I do not mirror it to a fault. I may write some characters with similar struggles or ideals to my own, but the whole point of imagination is extending your hand beyond the real and tangible. These people have no excuse outside of a woefully dry creativity
Eww. You mean they have to read some patriarchy ridden, white supremacist, racist, bigoted, hate-crime of a novel?
No way. They are at least 20 years old, and their kindergarten teacher gave them a participation medal for scribbling on a page once, so they know way more than anyone else about writing. Duh.
I bet they didn't even play the other dragon age games first to see what the fans loved about it..
@@hydra6094 I'm sure they hate DA Origins for their popularity and overall fan base, new developers always want to make something new for a new audience
Reminds me of one of the HotD writers (which is mostly a decent show, mind) who acknowledged that they had never seen Game of Thrones and read the books many, many years ago. Like, your JOB is to make a PREQUEL to one of the most popular shows and books ever made, and you can't even be bothered reading the material you are adapting? They basically just follow a storyboard made by the showrunner (who actually does care for the lore). Suffice to say, those are the most jarring episodes of the show and I just can't believe there aren't good writers out there who actually care about the universe and are willing to pour their heart and soul into making it as good as possible.
Jesus. I didn't buy it and didn't watch any playthroughs or any long gameplay footage, but this... this makes me want a refund regardless.
To be fair, 22 minutes of cringe in a roughly 60 hour game isn't too bad a ratio.
@magicdog9523 Let's be honest here, it took hours and hours to make this 22 minute video. How much do you think would actually be here if they didn't need to eat or sleep?
Also I HIGHLY doubt that this is a 60 hour game.
@@iBloodxHunter Took me just over 59 hours to beat the game. I didn't pull that figure out of nowhere.
I may be missing something but it's weird how you used to get informations of the long lost elvhen history from Solas and some ancient elves, and then there's Bellara who knows almost everything about it. But yeah, i may be missing something.
I think she’s some kind of Elven Archaeologist
Also she's written poorly even as an expert so I find myself a diligent and attentive player of DA universe to be more fitting for this position rather see Bellara's occupying it😅 Ofc it's imho yet I presume a lot of people who love DA's lore will be better at this task than her...
She apparently can also survive and CONTROL the blight. Shame my Warden couldn't, who TF is she
@@1imperfect3kontra18 She's Jesus.
they needed to write themselves out of a hole and make all the elves hate solas and the other gods out of nowhere.
Rook's VA deserves better than this shit. He's doing his best to carry the game.
Disney has been a terrible influence these years...
Its not just the writing, they sound like they are making the cringy "tiktok cosplay" voice. ALL OF THEM TToTT
I waited 10 years for this...
Still can't believe that this is what we got...
I'm so sorry, I'm not trying to point and laugh. You never should have waited and hoped for better. Origins is the reason we have Dragon Age. What game series is nothing like Origins? Dragon Age, the wind has been blowing this way for a long time.
@@iBloodxHunter I am not an Origins purist. If you are - fine, your opinion.
But I find it... Absurd. Inquisition has very good writing. Same team as Origins btw. A shame that EA pushed literally all of them out.
This feels like BG3 with none of the charm. Bioware originally created that franchise and look where the company's at now.
It doesn't help that none of the old staff is still there. It's basically another studio wearing BioWare's skin.
@akl2k7 Really like the Game Company of Theseus. I feel like the moment David Gaider left this series was destined to end up rudderless
Not even. As someone who's played both, in veilguard your choices do not matter at all until the last hour of the game. It sucks.
Don't even mention those two in the same sentence
Dragon age:concord
"Sorry, it's all I've got"
....yeah. literally.
What do you mean bend your knees?? Have these people actually ever done a push up
Maybe the Protagonist just keeps coincidentally walking into conversations at the exact moment they become gay, and keeps missing them talking about dragons and other actual interesting stuff.
Xddd
I don't think context would help much
It doesn't help much at all...
I've played it. 😫
Im very sorry at the suffering you've endured@@xLionsxxSmithyx
@@anotherhappylanding4746 I was originally planning to do multiple playthroughs as Different backgrounds, Races, Gender, sex ect...
But when I started my second playthrough I was just like "wtf am I doing, why am I putting myself through this again, it was bad enough the first time" and I just stopped playing. 😭...
I am not OK.
@@xLionsxxSmithyx Maybe therapy could help? Lol
@@anotherhappylanding4746 this might be beyond therapy.. 🤣
I find it insufferable that a game marketing itself as rpg gives you so little control over what your character is saying. Yes, some other rpgs do that too (like Witcher), but they use a character with already established personality. When I spend time in character creator, I want to actually choose dialogue options. Not hear my character spit something stupid and then have some dialogue options to get out of situation I would like to not be in the first place.
0:44 honestly, that’s the best dialogue in the game.
Couldn’t agree with you more
Peak writing
The “Deadly Premonition” OST was a profoundly good touch
This is what happens when you hire writers that came straight from Tumblr
I've honestly seen better writers on Tumblr. This is more like Wattpad.
and trust me, there's some idiot that thinks this game is good lol
I've seen them all over tik tok. It's hilarious. There's one of a girl trying to justify that it is a dark fantasy game. The cope is so strong.
God, that conversation between Trash and Davrin about him being a spirit 🤢🤢🤢 poor Davrin, and whoever had to interact with 🗑
Trash: “Yeah just because I wear all the stuff for the Qun doesn’t mean I follow it. Why should I care?”
Also Trash: *burns a dude alive for insulting the Qun*
I think Tash is a great character .
She truly shows us that a trash character must not only be hypocritical on the surface but hypocritical to the very core of the character
My brain swelled watching this and I’m a millennial
RIP Dragon King...
Yasssss qweeeen
King dragon sends his regards.
Ermm dragons dont have kings
This MF was so badass
This is the definition of *CRINGE*
I don’t think you’ll find better examples then from this game. This is peak cringe
you can't really appreciate the genius of "Well. Wasn't expecting to fight an ogre today" without the tasteful foreshadowing of "Ogre. That's an ogre." just before it
Some of these dialogues are even worse *WITH* context added.
I've seen them first hand. 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
They really lean into the camera being low looking up at Taash to try and make it seem like she's powerful but it's so forced and ham fisted it comes off as comical
I'm pretty sure it's because this guys Rook is a dwarf
BG3 laughs, spits on and departs the area of this game.
Withers alone has more spark.
I love the touch of putting deadly premonition music in the background LOL
Was looking for this comment
Well...shit
-Me after finishing Inquisition a little before the first trailer for this game came out
Im so irritated about Taash, like, "You cant tell me who i am!" Yet does that exact thing to emmerich 😂 i really hate what they did to the Qunari, Bellara just creeps me out.
Bellara was very clearly supposed to be a Tali clone and honestly, 2:20 sounds like it could be Mass Effect dialogue. They just somehow managed to destroy any charm there would be if Tali was the one saying it
Tali was a little awkward on rare occasions but never a bumbling, ranting pointless waif like this weird elf. The writers of DAV think having a quirk is the same thing as a personality.
2:47 I like how that part was actually alright but they ruined it by over explaining the half-second retort….. bruh
Darvin feels like the only person in this game who is questioning the ridiculousness of this game.
Erm...check please! 🤓☝🏻
... Well, that happened!
Another day in the veilguard ay?@@Gyrbae
He is right behind me isn't he?
Pfft 😂
Знаете, я люблю шутки, разные шутки. Но весь юмор в этой игре буквально построен на диснеевский манер. Нелепость, соевость и беззубость диалогов просто удручает. И что самое грустное - 10 сука лет ждали продолжение и получили это. Я рад что они избавились от открытого мира, лично для меня один из самых слабых пунктов третьей части, но бля, что с боевкой?? Превратить драгон эйдж, в масс эффект и начхать на прошлые части это уметь надо. Уменьшили количество скиллов до 3!!!!! По такой логике в продолжении (если оно будет) будет одна активная способность и один компаньон чтобы скучно не было. Ну да ладно, в России эта игра официально не продаётся так что я просто её спиратил и мои пожелания явно не учитываются
Вчера прошла игру. Честно говоря, не получила никакого удовольствия. Хотелось побыстрее пройти все и диалоги скипать. Настолько банально и пусто все. Единственное, что мне прям понравилось это количество взаимодействий с компаньонами. Но количество не равно качество. Их личные квесты тоже вышли убогими и предсказуемыми
А ведь мы ещё Инквизицию ругали. Хочу перед ней извиниться теперь. Вернись, я все прощу 😅
А если серьезно... Надеюсь, что эта фигня провалится и они перестанут мучить серию и фанатов.
Every time Taash growls, I feel my skin crawl. This compilation actually made me physically ill.
Thanks for saving me 70 bucks, though.
With the new art style and dialogue, this could have just been a new IP aimed at teenagers. Instead this feels like Dragon Age : Daddy Day Care. I like the MCU but the quippy humour doesn't suit everything.
Dragons don’t have kings? Says who?
Lore is that male dragons never grow bigger than drakes, grow wings, or establish territory. Only females do that so only females can become high dragons.
If Dragon King means “male dragon that has ascended to rule over other dragons” then yes, it would be inappropriate to object. No drake would be higher than the high dragons.
If Dragon King means “male who rules over dragons” then it should be just fine and Taash is just being petulant because she wants to be the ruler.
Taash is pretending the former, but we know it’s the latter.
Edit: appropriate, not inappropriate.
@@abcdefghij337 Lore is also that some of the archdemons were males. In Veilguard it is stated that the difference to a regular dragon is just that their souls are bound.
So male high dragons are apparently so rare that they would be worth the title of king
@@laju6398 Interesting lore. I maintain that Taash is a petulant child, however.
If something this horrible "game" can win game of the year. I no longer care of that event anymore if the bar is that low.
Stopped caring since TLoU2
@@Blurgamer17 Never was a fan of the series. Only played the first one.
Game of the year isn't an event, nor is it a single award. Every publication can award their own goty
@@Hirotoro4692 Ah.
NGL, i feel with Rook there when he says "Please get there faster, Harding"
If i ever have to hear the person who voiced Traash make these sounds into a microphone again, i'm going to Krill myself and i have a seafood allergy.
Please, can someone, ANYONE, tell me any rational sane explanation WHY Bellara is even a thing? Among every other characters she is the one that can be replaced ENTIRELY by Merrill. Merrill also had history with eluvians, both are shy and socially awkward, both babbling, both are elves. I cannot find a single reason why did they had to create entirely new character instead of use the one that they already had. I mean, of course, any other reason than "visibly asian character" that is somehow supposed to fill the place for the asian representation within the story. That argument I reject from the start since it's not necessary point especially since DA series did already enough retconning so one more woudn't make a difference, so Merrill being asian should not be a problem if the representation is so much necessary. Any suggestions? Anyone?
Merrill is a companion that could die in prior entries of Bioware. Additionally, she could also be romanced by Hawke. Obviously, this means such a character comes with a lot of baggage; not to mention, Merrill's story is pretty much over. Her character arc has been done with. So, they created a new character without any of that baggage so that they could have their own character arc.
Bellara's main character trait isn't actually her social awkwardness or her tendency to ramble but rather her depression and her tendency to feel guilty over things. These factors translate into her throwing herself at her work to an unhealthy degree, checking over things far more than she ought to, and staying up late in the night and tiring herself out. I'd argue she's one of the better written characters in Veilguard when you look at her because she has inner conflict, a goal if you explore her companion quests, and (I haven't finished the game but I'd guess since the game is addressing this through the quest) an actual character arc that makes sense. Not to mention, she is one of the few party members who reacts appropriately to grave events in the game like Weisshaupt (which you might not expect given the intro to the game presents her as this overly quippy character lmao)
The other good characters, I would say, are Emmerich (who's just kinda cool, and has a backstory and a depth to him other companions don't really have) and Davrin (again, he feels real, he's not super quippy, he has good quests and a good goal and is used appropriately in the story). Lucanis had potential but the execution is leaving me wanting so far, Harding was lame at first but is starting to be more interesting now that we're looking into her magic, and Neve also had potential but finds herself underutilized and not executed so well. As for Taash I agree with literally everyone else, it's a shit character
@@LVD3NS Ok, I see your point. That however doesn't explain this entirely.
"such a character comes with a lot of baggage; not to mention, Merrill's story is pretty much over. Her character arc has been done with" - That never stopped them before. Morrigan, Leliana both had their stories "technically" ended in origins. Both had continuations DESPITE BOTH being possibly dead. Oh, and do we remember Kieran? Well, I apperently CANNOT remember him since he never existed apparently. Also, that "baggage" doesn't influence neither the messsage nor character. Simply get the story and add some reasoning to that WHY this character would went in that direction. Makes perfect sense. Since history has been changed so the "canon" is pretty much stated with only minor (3? If I remember correctly) detailes that may be different I don't see why reducing that one extra thing would be an issue.
"Bellara's main character trait isn't actually her social awkwardness or her tendency to ramble but rather her depression and her tendency to feel guilty over things" - I never said that was the main point of that character. You either misunderstood or purposfully misrepresent my point here (no, I will not give you benefit of the doubt, I'm assuming that you do the latter, I'm too tired to be the one who respects everyone else while not getting even half of it in exchange) which already makes me not want to hear any further argument as if they were made in good faith. Just letting you know.
My point was, if you are going to use THE EXACT SAME CHARACTER trope, the same personality, race etc. just use the same character. IF you're going to make entirely new character, don't make them so similar so the comparison is TOO EASY to make.
"tendency to feel guilty over things. These factors translate into her throwing herself at her work to an unhealthy degree, checking over things far more than she ought to, and staying up late in the night and tiring herself out." - exacly what would Merrill do. Her entire story with Eluvians was pretty much her doing exact same thing and if her clan was killed because of this... here's the guilt.
"Not to mention, she is one of the few party members who reacts appropriately to grave events in the game" - You mean she is one of the few in DAV while I'd argue most in previous games would be the same? That's a terrible point given the fact on radicalisation of opinions about the game. It's either GENIUS and BRILLIANT or SHIT and TERRIBLE.
You make a point about characters being "not-that-bad" but all I can see is Emmerich (I agree, he's the most universally liked character. (I agree with that mostly because he is the most distanced from everything else)) BUT I must burst your bubble about him being in any mean original. Such character was already created. He is just a copy of Lantry from Tyranny with class being necromancer as it's been seen that the concept of this school of magic was underdeveloped in Inquisition by having only Dorian and Cassandra mentioning it briefly. Emmerich even looks like Lantry, the face, the hair, the outfit (a little bit more elegant but that just so he would fit into the world).
About Davrin, honestly I have no opinion. He's not interesting to me.
Lucanis again is a character that mimic real-world characteristics from real-world nations. Bellara is (non-indian) asian and Lucanis is Spanish. I understand SOME things are supposed to be pararells but involving real-world races and cultures to a fictional ones is as bad as Taash "I'm non-binary" using modern launguage to explain phenomenons in fantasy settings. I'm not saying they can't be that, but please Bioware, explain this to me NOT using direct launguage. I haven't heard the word "trans" about Krem, but I understood what he was and had no problem with that. Such direct message makes you detest the character since it works like She-Hulk series, breaking 4-th wall instead of working as in-universe message. So, make Lucanis Antivan, not Spanish. One base on the other, but is NOT entirely the same. It cannot be.
The same with Bellara. My theory is EXACLY so there would be a VISIBLY asian character in the game. But the thing is, we had Vivienne who happened to be black and there was no real-world racism towards her or anyone based on the merit of color of skin. THAT'S alone makes such representations like Lucanis and Bellara's real-world nationalities pointless.
Let's remind ourselves that while Vivienne was one of most hated character in entire series (oh no, conservative (yeah, right) black person, how-ever will I survive) and lately controversial ENOUGH Wyll in BG3 was reduced from complicated beta version to one-dimentional morally character. No wonder he's most forgotten character. It is implied that it was the fear of creators of making a controversial minority character as others did. And look at this, we are not supposed to dislike minority characters like Lucanis, Bellara or Dorian because they are OBVIOUSLY good. Taash is good distraction from other mistakes or bland writing so let's ignore it's existence entirely. Let's not focus on that because I don't believe this wasn't on purpose to, by comparison, make other characters feel better, more relevant or seem better written.
I don't understand why on earth bring back Harding an additional character to have ANY connection to the rest of the story. That's my point, if Harding is ok, why not Merrill? They could have add new character here. Why didn't they? And why they did for Bellara? Or, hear me out, they could have added Valta. That would make more sense since she already had contact with one Titan. Why give such connection to the one that supposively never had contact with one and it is said that she was from the surface in hinterlands. That makes believability of her connections to the titans lesser than let's say Valta's. Neve takes place as the one who "introduces" you to the place and knowledge of the world, such as it is. Dante's Virgil in Tevinter. In origins such introduction was made by Duncan as a narrator, in DA2 by Varric, in DAI by Cassandra (mostly). A some sort of character that is a tutorial character. The one who is "the deepest" in the world, has the most knowledge about what-the-hell-is-going-on in the world. Since DAV is suggesting different approach than most games up to this point ("I have amnesia", "I just woke up", "I'm new to this place", "I'm just a player, explain to me the very basic of day-to-day existence that my character lived for over (at least) 20 years" etc.) such character seems to be not really needed. Maevaris Tilani could have easly feel Neve's role BUT here I believe this was good decision. Similarily like Cassandra who was in different type of media, Neve wasn't directly in previous story, like Rhys and Evangeline, she was in books and not in games and yet mentioning or even involving one in one or another direction of medias is good strategy to connect different media's stories to make them more connected so they would feel more like one whole picture instead of being some sort of spin-offs or alternate realities or even multiversums.
In short:
- Merrill is NOT a character that necessarilly is done. Or at least we know nothing about it. If we can kill Leliana in Origins and than she comes back, that rule should expand to Merrill as well.
- I still see Bellara as not using rule of Occam (is that really how he is written in english? Weird.) razor. Not necessary character when a proper one already exists.
- Characters are bland overall and are made to look better by creating (on purpose I presume) a terrible one that catches all negative attention.
I've come to like Bellara
@@przemyslawwasowski7450 I want to start my reply by saying I was not trying to purposefully misrepresent any of your points, nor was I trying to ascribe to your post things you never said by speaking on Bellara's characteristics. I simply wanted to share my thoughts on who Bellara was as a character and why I thought she wasn't so bad. I apologize if this came across as a bad faith attempt to derail the conversation or to misrepresent your post; that was not my intention at all.
Admittedly, Bellara and Merrill are very similar characters. Actually, my first thoughts when I saw Bellara was that she seemed a little like a rethread -- or a mix -- of Tali and Merrill; she's interested in what is essentially technology, is young and socially awkward, and has similar personality traits to Tali and Merrill.
With that out of the way, let me address each point of your post, one by one.
You compare Merrill, in this situation, to Leliana and Morrigan. The problem is that Leliana and Morrigan were not companions in the subsequent games; they were advisors. In fact, the only recurrent companion in Dragon Age has been Varric, who appeared in Dragon Age 2 and Dragon Age Inquisition both. Don't quote me on that either, but Varric was far less interesting in Inquisition than in Dragon Age 2; his character had already been explored in Dragon Age 2, so what could be done further with Varric in Inquisition was a little limited. Hence, comparing Morrigan and Leliana's situation to Merrill and Bellara isn't, in my opinion, an apt comparison.
Veilguard also wanted its characters to be romanceable -- and this is important to Dragon Age fans, believe it or not, because romances have always been very popular, and one of the main sources of attention for Dragon Age as a series. Romances also increase fan engagement in the franchise; a lot of art, fanfiction, and discussion revolves around these potential relationships with each companion. This was also true of Mass Effect. Whether you agree with this decision or not is up to you, but I believe that, if the developers wanted each companion to be romanceable, Merrill could not be an option, because she could potentially be romanced by Hawke. Having that be out of the canon completely or having her break up with Hawke after the game for seemingly no reason would have gone over even worse for the game.
I also stand by what I said when I said Merrill's story is done and that there probably isn't much more to explore from her. Her story revolved mostly around her clan and her struggles to fit in, alongside her problems with the keeper, problems with demons, and her willingness to use forbidden means, like blood magic or the Eluvian, to do certain things. As an aside, that's already very different from Bellara's character, who doesn't struggle with these things at all and instead struggles with guilt she shouldn't feel and with doing the right thing always but not necessarily being able to.
That's not to mention Veilguard takes place around twelve years after Dragon Age 2. That's a lot of time for people to change; Merrill, if I recall correctly, was characterized by her youthfulness, but also by the fact that she was next in line to be a Dalish keeper. If that's no longer there, then Merrill already changes as a character.
This is why using Merrill in place of Bellara wouldn't work, or at least would be much more complicated for the developers. I suspect that it is also these reasons that motivated the developers to make a new character.
As for your further discussion on the other characters, I think all I have to say about it is, never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.
I've already spoken on Bellara and why I personally warmed up to her, so I won't pad out my comment with more of that. I'll just say I honestly don't really mind that she's Asian. The Veil Jumpers around her aren't really Asian either (well; some of them are) but I assume the elves in Arlathan come from all over to explore their past. And besides asian girls are usually qt3.1415 and I would say Bellara kinda fits that...
Emmerich is cool. I have Tyranny, but I haven't gotten around to playing it yet. I therefore am unfamiliar with the character you speak of, but if what you said is true, it is somewhat disheartening to see. Still, Emmerich's quest, which I'm getting into, is pretty fun, and Manfred is a cool guy to have around too. I'm intrigued to see where his story goes next.
I like Davrin because he seems like a well-rounded, well-written character. I wasn't expecting that given Bioware's track record with black characters (JACOB TAYLOR LOL) or Wyll's lackluster character writing in BG3 (I agree with you when you say he was neutered in the game. Dude has literally no character arc or character development, he is just a boring good guy). His relationship with Assan gives him a good path to character development, but he also reacts quite a bit to the game's events, especially those concerning wardens, and has a goal and purpose that I can understand very well. Finally, I like that he and my Warden Rook are bros. It feels good to discuss warden matters with him and to explore life as a warden again. I missed that from DAO.
Harding started off unimpressive. Sometimes, she acted like a child. After the first act however, her quests genuinely become interesting, and her gift for titan magic is genuinely an intriguing storyline to follow. She also feels more fleshed out now, speaking about her time with the Inquisition and her experience as a scout, and sharing her thoughts on things that are happening or on her magic gift. She is not my favorite, but I also find her relatively good. Not great, but good enough. I think using Valta might have been a good idea though, honestly, but I can't fault them for bringing back Harding given that she was one of the more popular and memorable side characters of Inquisition (and many people wanted to romance her).
As for the assassin of the party, I don't really see an issue with Lucanis appearing to be Spanish. It feels mostly natural to me that people from different parts of Thedas would look and speak in different ways, and it's honestly fairly consistent that the Crows in Treviso look like that and talk like that. I see no issue there. The problem mainly lies in the fact that there was more that could be done with him that just wasn't. Spite feels underutilized, and he talks way too much about coffee. Apart from that he has some highs in his writing, namely everything relating to the Crows and Treviso, and the flavor around his relationship with Spite, as well as his banter.
Neve is... okay. She does not stand out in this cast. She is not badly written or anything, but I find her mediocre overall. She is the average jaded noir detective who's cold and guarded because she doesn't want to get close in case she gets hurt. There might be more to her storyline that I haven't explored yet, but so far she leaves neither a bad impression nor a good impression. I will say I find her voice fits her well, even if a lot of people say her voice actress was bad. She does sound like a jaded, stoic, guarded detective tired of everything going on.
Taash does not seem like a purposefully badly written character to me. She more feels like a self-insert, or a rushed character with little thought put into her, as opposed to someone you are meant to dislike. This is mainly because the game forces you to agree with her and you can hardly criticize her at all even when she pulls actual bullshit in the game. It really just comes across as if she's her writer's favorite character, or straight up self-insert (her writer was non-binary as well.)
@@LVD3NS
Part I
"I want to start my reply by saying..." - understood, in that case, fair enough, no harm done... for now.
"The problem is that Leliana and Morrigan were not companions in the subsequent games; they were advisors" - that was not my point. My point was regarding mostly your answer that Merrill can potentially die in DA2 which could make result with her being unavailable when the same happened with Leliana, Morrigan, additionally Anders technically Wynne and Shale (books imply that they lived so technically according to the rules stated by Veilguard they did live) etc.
It was about potentially dead character returning even though they technically shouldn't. Leliana got back in Inquisition (I don't remember if she returns in DA2 if she was "struck down" in the temple of sacred ashes) even if she died. Not about them being in the next iteration of the series.
About romances - that is mostly true, although Hawke is not here anymore and I don't remember if that was addressed in Veilguard, but it could be arreanged in the game then and make another plot point of romance and at the same motive as being able to love after your first love died. If I remember correctly only Aveline and Cassandra had such motive.
I'm not that attached to that point so I'm not going to defend it more than I feel I should or want. Clarifying Hawke's death and "forcing" his/her death is a non-issue since most of world-state is forced to some sort of produced canon.
"Her story revolved mostly around her clan and her struggles to fit in, alongside her problems with the keeper, problems with demons, and her willingness to use forbidden means, like blood magic or the Eluvian, to do certain things." - That's true, but I'm afraid that's not how our minds work. Her story THEN was finished. Life goes on and eventually we do something else with our lives, go further, learn new things, involve oursleves in new things. Nothing shows from what you said that the same things couldn't be pinned to Merrill. Also, this could be a good opportunity to show other motive, PTSD, give her nightmares related to her past and let her make peace with it.
"This is why using Merrill in place of Bellara wouldn't work, or at least would be much more complicated for the developers. I suspect that it is also these reasons that motivated the developers to make a new character." - and yet it was not a problem to complicate things with Harding... I see your point, yet I'm not convinced. "It's too hard" is rarely an excuse when rest of the story is not believable as well.
"I honestly don't really mind that she's Asian" - It's not that I mind that, it's more like it feels to as this game took too seriously the matter of representation as of directly related to our world. In fantasy where real-life issues are paralleled it's not the best idea to brute-force real life concepts because you can mess up the message. There is a reason characters like Vivienne or Wyll (BG3) never expirienced racism from our real life due to color of their skin. It is important in storytelling to detect about what world we are talking about. Bellara can be asian or not. My issue is that it seems extremely representational which shows especially for me since I'm not american and "showing representaion" is made in VERY AMERICAN way (meaning, you have to have minority characters such as sexual one(of any kind), a black, a mexican, an asian. But for example no slavs, no nordics... I wonder why...)
"Emmerich is cool [...], but if what you said is true, it is somewhat disheartening to see" - I wouldn't say it should be disheartening. It was just my assesment based on knowing the tropes such as this. I could just as well compare Emmerich to Wynne or some other characters with such traits (can't remember them in this minute). It was only to show that it's not as original like "O wow, there was never such character before!!!1!1!". Inspiration exist, and maybe Sylvia Feketekuty (writer of the character) played Tyranny and thought about creating original character and subcountiously her thoughts led her to this. Even copyright law recognise that as valid.
tyranny.fandom.com/wiki/Lantry - that so you could compare their appearances. For me their head shapes, eyes (just eyes, not brows), noses, jaw shape, even face expressions (as limited for Tyranny) are similar.
Obviously, NOT the same, facial hair are different and quality of clothing is different but that is more in-world-characteristics difference. Also cultural one. And here I discovered that I wrote his name wrongly. It's Emmrich not Emmerich. I misstook his name with the werewolf guy from Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter.
" I think using Valta might have been a good idea though, honestly, but I can't fault them for bringing back Harding given that she was one of the more popular and memorable side characters of Inquisition (and many people wanted to romance her)." - THAT... is half of my issue here. As you said, romances are VERY important for this game, I agree, BUT Bioware was dodging this topic for a long time, dating a dwarf I mean (moronic sentiment in my opinion, it's not the same "type" of dwarf) and now suddenly it's not an issue? Varric returning in Inquisition was part of that excuse. We have semi-taken guy from previous game who is not interested i relationship to not introduce new character who could be a dateable dwarf. Harding as much as could be flirted with, her "dating" in Inquisition was on the same level as Sebastian romance - not really recognized by the game.
I'm also do believe that when making a present for someone (and creating a game in that case) you cannot only focus on what people want and expect from you (in that case it would be fan service), but also give something new, something from yourself. When I was 8 for my birthday I wanted expantion pack for the sims 1 but instead my uncle gave me Icewind Dale series which led me to next RPGs and then later to further games. It wasn't what I wanted, but retrospectively, it was what I needed. I think, putting Valta in the game would be better option simply because of it.
Harding can appear as childish because from what I remember she's still young or at least she is meant to be seen as such. So that I wouldn't count as bad thing. I'd think about it as similar to Sera situation.
Still, kind of off-putting to place surface adrastian dwarf as one to have connection to the stone. I mean, I get that, AND I get the implications, but still, Valta is right there.
I'm just afraid that mass firing in Bioware showed that new employees might have not even played the previous games. With BG3 I can forgive that, different studio, but here? And to clarify your previous point, no, malice and incompetence are not so far from eachother. While malice imply intention, the results stays many times the same and for a receiver it doesn't make much differnce. At least not for me. Intentions vs results. Old philosophical matter. Already gotten old and boring.
"As for the assassin of the party, I don't really see an issue with Lucanis appearing to be Spanish" - as I said, it's not an issue per se that he is or isn't directly of different culture. It's more of an issue of conflating real-life characteristics with the fantasy written ones. You DON'T want to do that in your fantasy. That's a bad writing. Some words "Braska" for "damn" that are Antivan are already set. When crating already established (even if limited) form of launguage in-world conflating it and mixing with real world lauguage as I've seen they recall their family members in spanish makes it no-longer be inspired by Spain and it becomes to BE Spain. That is important detail. Not so much important for those who don't dwell in mechanics of the worldbuilding and important details.
As I already said, Veilguard seem to be targetted mostly for american receiver who WANTS such representaions, who demands them, who sees those as those close to them, as those identifiable for them. American receiver doesn't need representation of a character who have alcohol problem, is cleptomaniac, lived/raised in poverty and raises their young in fear of a slipper (or some other indoor footwear - which itself is incommunicable on it's own).
To be continued...
Wow.... They are very... Corny.
Like bad bad type of it. So bad.
Hands
Even your comment writes like Californian modern speak lol
We did get some bangers this year, but why were there so many games like this that are cringe as hell? Suicide Squad, Concord, Dustborn, and now this.
The only upside is that they all flopped HARD.
I hear Suicide Squad has good combat? But I won't give them my money to verify. Among other things, I really hate they decided to genderbend Freeze, instead of just swapping the story and have Nora be the one trying to save Freeze.
@@ValbrandrLeonhardt it doesn't it's a mobile game with more graphical requests that's it
Still don't understand why a fantasy RPG with a seemingly serious, dark and dramatic main narrative has to force laughably bad sitcom humor into itself, in a manner that it cannot be avoided. It completely ruins the tone and atmosphere of the game.
Compare the Yakuza games; especially dramatic and serious main story, supplemented with ridiculous and humorous side activities. The difference is that you can avoid these things completely if you want to. When you want to progress the main narrative, it stays consistant in its tone, and when you're in the mood for funny and light-hearted content, you can do the side activities. Veilguard shoves the humour and sitcom onto unavoidable sections of the game, and force feeds it unto the player
Taash and Bellara are the most insufferable characters I've seen in a while, and what makes it worse is probably how confidently the devs expected them to be otherwise given how obnoxiously tryhard they feel
*Trash
When I was playing Baldur's Gate 3, all my allies made me want to fight to save the world, Veilguard wants me want to fight to end the world.
The qunari design. Chinese elves.
In the words of elder maxson, this game is an abomination
They're not real dragon age characters. Call the Brotherhood, we've got synths on the loose!
The elf bothers me the most. Why are her cheeks so massively pointy??
Well, thats the new Mass Effect written off
oh well
its just one of the most beloved RPGs of all time
Out of context is the perfect way to describe this game.
This game is wild, you get done fighting a god in this cool boss fight to only be greeted back at your base by two women arguing about a dress and how one doesn’t feel comfortable being a woman anymore.
You can’t avoid it either, you are forced to partake and listen to this conversation. It’s straight up propaganda. I couldn’t imagine being the son of a maga guy and hearing this stuff coming from his son’s bedroom because he wanted to play dragon age. Call 911 pls because dad is punching the drywall over trans elves.
I’m all for people living the life they want and being accepted but stop shoving it down everyone’s throats. This stuff shouldn’t be anywhere near a fantasy rpg.
Idk the context of the bone man and the bird but i actually like that you can squawk with them. They should of been party members instead
Stop calling it millennial writing! I was born in 1986 and I’m almost 40! I didn’t grow with any of this woke crap! I didn’t have the internet until I was 20 years old!
Exactly!
Hey, thanks for the feedback. I alternated the title of the video, calling it a millennial writing wasn't very accurate. Unlike Bioware, I'm always ready to listen to you guys. 👍
According to wikipedia millennials are anyone from gen y or gen x combined (meaning anyone born early 1980s to late 1990/early 2000). I do agree it's not 100% accurate but it's still millennial writing, since it's the later half (Gen X) who are writing this kind garbage, people who are 20 to 30 y/o right.. my generation :)
@@Dwyrielbelieve me, if only you guys would watch certain movies or read certain novels from 40y ago, you would find some truly TERRIBLE writing, and the hallmarks of boomer writing have nothing to do with it: it's just bad writers are born in every generation.
@@francesco3772 There's bad writers in every generation, lots of them. Point is, if you analyse the writing on this game, it is, by definition, what we call "millennial writing".
Marvel style conversation, "quirky comebacks" and jokes, modern slangs like "oof", and the weird "comedic timing" in some scenes with the poor dialog.
You can tell that these writers have never been in a grown-up environment
They must've been smoking some powerful crack when they designed Taash because holy hell what an unappealing character visually and personality wise.
The one compliment I will give this game is the hair material. Looks pretty good and doesn't suffer from crappy lighting. Might be a bit too clean for Dragon Age, but i can't deny it looks nice.
A shame there's no suicide mission in this game's finale.
Good news: There is, and you can absolutely get these companions killed.
Bellara came from the MCU through a portal and you cannot convince me otherwise.
Needs Seinfeld bass
to be honest the “please dont start pissing the bed” one was funny
The biggest motivator to not do any companions loyalty quest so they all die.
The issue I have is that the game doesn't allow characters to yell, be angry, or swear. Also, in most cases, things are explicitly spelt out for us, where they should allow us to read between the lines. It might come across as bad because the dialogue lacks depth a lot of the time, and I don’t feel like they react naturally. I would still encourage people to give the game a try. It may be Marvelised, but the game is entertaining, and it has its moments.
This makes me want to play Inquisition and pretend that's the end of the game series.
8:57 What’s a museum? A collection of ancient artifacts with plaques and descriptions available to commoners? In a feudalistic setting?
0:29 I disagree with this one, it might be the only time I've chuckled at anything related to Veilguard. We're making the problem worse and leaving.
I'm sure a lot of the people who played only wish they could choose who to inflict those two on.
Somehow Dwarf Rook makes a lot of his cringe dialogue work better, like he's being ironic somehow by being inherently silly.