2023 Kia Seltos review (inc. 0-100, autonomy & reverse test): They've finally ditched the DCT!
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Kia has finally updated the 2023 Kia Seltos and listened to our criticisms! Kia has ditched the dual-clutch transmission and there's finally a regular torque converter transmission. There are also styling and pricing updates - so is it worth joining the wait list? Paul Maric finds out!
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Intro: 00:00
Exterior 00:48
Interior 02:47
Infotainment 04:10
Safety Tech 05:50
Practicality 06:31
On the Road 09:08
0 - 100 km/h 13:39
Verdict 16:21
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It's nice that you've added the interior noise test. I want my car's interior to be more dampened by exterior noise since I love listening to my radio.
Your reviews are getting better and better, keep going.
Dream car (‘within budget reach’ category)!! I was told of a miserable nine-month wait. I’m surprised with the less than impressive ride given that Kias are locally tuned but great stability towards the end of the video! Rear air vents finally (single-zone forgiven) and torque converter transmission yes yes yes (which sort of explains its thirst, wet DCT would’ve been all right too), and no more putrid ‘starburst yellow’. Kia listens to market feedback and implements. 360 cam and hybrid please, Kia! Happy new year 2023 Paul, Igor, and team! Love this more packed format, please add roundabout visibility (my Koleos has huge and high mirrors compromising sideward views). Being Victorian, it’s your reviews I trust most. Good on you guys!
Ordered mine, today should arrive in about a month, so I can confirm these are still in high demand even in Canada. As the one I was going to buy sold overnight before it even hit the lot.
We just test drove the Mitsubishi Outlander, Sportage and Seltos. I enjoyed the softness of the Outlander, comfortable seats and the quiet cabin and for a family the Outlander is hard to pass up. We thought the Sportage seats were not overly comfortable, they were quite hard and in general the $59k top of the range didn't do anything new for us apart from the lovely screens. Then we sat in the Seltos and we were very impressed. For $10k less than the Sportage it felt solid, comfortable and easy to drive plus it got to higher speeds faster (due to weight I guess). As this car is for my wife and I primarily with kids now moving out of home we can stop looking for a fully packed family car and the Seltos is now our front runner. BTW I also find the Mazda's boring on the outside which is why I can't even bring myself to test drive them :-) 7yr warranty as well.
Mazda CX 30 and cx5 are great vehicles interms of reliability and drivability...😂😂
Agree with you 1000% about the Mazda being boring! I owned a CX-5 and liked it very much but the interior was very generic. They could do so much better!
Now I have the 1st generation of the Seltos (2021). Handles like a dream. But it is punchy in low gear with the dual clutch. I just ordered the 2024 which has an 8-speed automatic!
had my eyes on the seltos for quite some time now - will probably order within the next few weeks. Cheers for the breakdown Paul
KIA Seltos is the class leader and I still love my 2021 SX Turbo here in the US. This refresh is just that slight touch better! Wind noise is definitely there, but otherwise it’s a relatively quiet and very comfortable ride. My girlfriend has a 2019 Hyundai Tucson, and we always take my vehicle for the greater comfort and better ride.
Love love LOVE! I’ve driven the new generation in both 1.6T and 2.0. As much as I’d love one, I’m still waiting on my Sorento 🙃 Well done Kia!
Great review Paul, any chance you could review the new Nissan qashqai? as its another small suv I'm considering along with the seltos
I've got one on order, updating from my MY2020 Kia Cerato Sports+ and Kia have told me to expect mine in late february or early march, luckily I put a deposit down as soon as they were taking interest in the new model, however it has now been pushed to a 12 month wait for anyone ordering now
Thank you! Am considering upgrading from 2018 GT line Sportage diesel to an Seltos GT line petrol. review provided great insights. thank you!!
Lovely car and a good review Paul 👌👍
Could you guys possibly do a VS of this and the VW T-ROC and other new Small SUV alike. Thanks Paul.
I have loved the Seltos and have waited for the new one. Saw a review from Korea last year in August which led me to go and put a deposit down to get in the queue. Despite a shitty dealer experience my car is finally coming. Was meant to be mid Feb, now mid March. Disappointed to hear about the road noise but very excited for loads of the other features plus your review made me feel like I've made the right choice for this price point/size suv.
Can't wait to finally drive it!
I just got the 2023 seltos gt awd, the road noise isn't that bad. If you're use to luxury SUV's that fully dampens then you might be, but really it's pretty good. I got steel grey and it looks great. Best of all it takes 91 octane petrol so you get to spend less on fuel.
Hey Paul do u think you could put the LED globes that are in the GT line into the sport plus??
A little disappointing that the 360 cameras are missing from the export model. That's a great feature gone by the wayside for us.
agreed, and that's the deal breaker
@Tanya Spotting I'll not trust Chinese vehicles. Reliability is a potential problem and safety as well
@@biga4971 It's not Chinese, its South Korean. Hyundai now own Kia Motors
@@JenzaB89 I know KIA is Korean, I'd reply to someone who mentioned to buy MG
It is a shame I was hoping it had that feature.
This is the only car channel that does a "reverse acceleration test". Completely pointless but entertaining. 🤩
For outrunning zombies 🧟♀️
Not pointless in some dodgy areas of Sth Africa
Hi Paul! What was the problem with the KIA’s DSG? Kindly enlighten us.
We walked into the dealer and they had a gt line delivered that day and they said it was supposed to be a demo but they said we could have it if we paid our deposit today. So we drove it and loved it and paid our deposit and pick up next week
How are you finding it now a year on? Looking at them more seriously due to sportage prices being a bit high
Hi. I've pre-ordered the Kia Seltos LX+ 2023, the new face-lift version.. I'm just really confused as to what specs and features come with the LX+ model. I've seen since many reviews and tried to read up about it but to no availability, the purchase price for my Kia was $33,750 and $3500 of it, is upgrades. What upgrades would that be and what is the difference?
Tried to order one in December but was told a minimum of a 4 month wait for the GT-Line. Have gone with a Subaru Forester instead - at least, I'll have more range off-road.
Just received our 2023 seltos gt awd and so far it's great. The sound system isn't brilliant compared to the cerato gt but it does the job. I am not sure about the mood lighting, but gives it personality. If only it came with a pano sunroof, then it would be almost perfect. Oh and please please sort out the wired carplay, it's crazy having wireless charging and wired carplay connection. Get it resolved Kia!
Nicely done!! 👍
Put my deposit for the GT line today! About a 4 month wait in WA. Fingers crossed it’s no longer than that.
i was super impressed with the peppy engine and the sportive tuning . 8 speed Torque converter does magic :) . 360 cam missing even on top of line range :( . Overall very happy that i choose Seltos GT line and enjoying it :)
The only reason I’m seriously considering not buying one is the lack of 360 camera. Like come on even Haval have them!!!! 😢
Hi Paul, great job as always mate.
You are including more n more important info into your reviews.
Could you also possibly include some gravel roads with corrugations for the crossovers and SUVs please, considering anyone who wants to enjoy this massive country and the campsites may have to travel quite a few kms on gravel n dirt.
I was just thinking Paul regarding fuel consumption, you should do a rolling reset at maybe 80kph or 100kph. Easy to do and if you use cruise control it should give you (and us) a fairer picture on fuel consumption.
So get up to desired speed, set the cruise control, reset the fuel consumption and watch.
That's a terrible way to measure fuel consumption. We don't all drive at 80/100km/h from a standstill....
@@zaamuro8408 that’s not the point. It tells you what the engine is consuming when other variables are taken out of the equation.
@@DiHandley thats what the instantenous fuel consumption read out is for? All that will tell you is the highway fuel consumption if done at 80/100km/h like you suggested....
Seltos is the only suv which has everything...they should improve the ground clearance
How does the Seltos compare to the Honda BRV?
Just helped my
Mother get the 23 seltos EX Nightfall edition…. Love the little thing. Popular in the US here as well
Apparently the Sport model is "on order" at my local dealer in Geelong and they tell me it's an approximately six month. Been looking at other dealers too, but no luck there either.
Can confirm the Seltos is a great car. I actually watched your review in 2020 and bought it after the review. Reliability has been excellent and love the capped pricing offered by Kia 😄
Not to sound cynical but I think measuring reliability on a 1-2yo car is dubious at best. Even the most unreliable new cars don’t really have serious issues this soon. Maybe once it’s around a decade old, you can really start to compare the things that have gone wrong on a Toyota vs a Jeep, etc and find a big difference.
@@User-cb4jm that's true. Guess time will tell though if anything is to go by my friend drives a 2007 Kia Rio and it's still working without any major issues. Let's hope Seltos is the same 😅
How much is capped service and how many years thanks
@@aussieburn777 Generally it's 7 years for all Kia's. Mine is a GT-Line AWD and it's $3,214 in total for 7 years 😊
@Train Sim World thank u for that so avg to $459.
Are u miffed about the lack of 360 deg camera given this is new updated model?
Ordered GT line in September can't wait to get it, hopefully not a 12 month wait. Can't wait to test drive it as well.
Have you received yours yet?
@@carz232 sure have picked it up in February absolutely love it ❤️
We don’t get the Seltos here in Europe.
We have two different subcompact SUVs, the Stonic which you get in Ozzyland, and the XCeed, which is just a jacked up Ceed.
can you tell if it has a rear sensor for parking?
I notice you didn't test the speed sign recognition as I've heard that this is really annoying and needs to be disabled every time you start the car by drilling down into the menus. That would be enough to stop me buying one. I did test drive the 2 litre version a couple of weeks back with the CVT and it surprised me how well it went. Was difficult to tell it wasn't an auto. Also the dealer told me these are approx 6mth wait if you order now.
The interior of the older version shown at 3:16 looks better than the interior of the 2023 models sold here in South Africa,
Is apple CarPlay wireless on the lower trim models?
Still can't believe how no one has ever talked about how small the front door window is on seltos.
I have the Cerato GT and yes the DCT is a little clunky (once its up and going its smooth as silk) but they do have better acceleration than a torque converter auto. Would have rather seen them use the wet DCT in the seltos would have given better 0-100 and fuel economy.
I have a mid-late 22 Cerato GT and I have heard a lot of complaints about the DCT, but in my own car I honestly can't say I have experienced this? It is actually the smoothest transmission I have had in a car, and I have had many. You can't feel when it shifts gears, and taking off from a stop is as smooth as it can possibly get.
Under what circumstances have you experienced the DCT being clunky? I think for me it might only be odd situations where I'm slowing down or speeding up and suddently want to brake/accelerate, maybe catching the trans the moment it's shifting both transmissions and that is very rare. Maybe once every 10 drives.
@@joytech23 yeah I have a MY22 aswell, great cars!
Well, that was one fo the better appraisals I have heard in many years. I had a sales career with For and then VW yonks ago but I sold for Ford in the UK, Ford of Australia (Fairlane 500), Taunus of Germany and Mustangs for the USA in one showroom with the first RS 1300/1600. I have had around 40 cars and am seriously looking at this or the Sportage. Man, you were honest and can carry your clique without batting an eye...Just how an appraisal should be, never mind if it hurts Kia a little as they will, I am sure take on board what you have to say, anytime.
You should review the Jeep compass 2022 model!
It will be useful to mention the dimensions
We would love to see a review on haval h9 plz
When you do you reviews on SUV’s - to measure boot space can you please show a video of the new seltos with a golf bag fitting sideways without having to put the seats down please
I’m going to ask a silly question
You’re reviewing new vehicles ?
When you do the 0-60 and 130 etc basically punching the car hard does it not damage the new engine ? I remember long time ago dealers would say to not exceed a certain limit when driving a new vehicle to “ break it in “ ??
I am deciding pretty much between the Seltos and the new Kona. Test drove them both yesterday one after the other and they both feel like solid options to me. To me the Kona felt far more spacious (yet technically having less space) and refined inside, and nice and sporty to drive. The Seltos felt a bit cheaper inside but had more boot space and felt more like an SUV whereas the Kona felt more like a big hatchback. Tbh the drive was similar as they both had the same 1.6T 8sp TC drive train. Despite the polarising design, I think imma go with the Kona - feels more like a sporty hatchback instead of a family SUV, but still fulfils my needs re space and size.
I’m also trying to decide between the two of them! So hard!!
Can someone explain the point of the "how fast does it go in reverse" test? I don't get it.
What about the Canadian market ??? Will the LX has the new engine? And will it have the digital dash
We shopped around, ordered the MY24 Seltos GT Line
Is the imt variant launched too
I wish they had this engine/transmission combo in the Sportage.
Wow that’s one of the fastest cars I’ve seen in reverse.Impressive
Hey Paul how do u think the seltos compares vs the Havel H6 GT 4wd. I’m currently looking at both. Which do you prefer/recommend?
The H6 GT looks cool, and probably has sharper pricing in relation to equipment levels but tbh Kia has established a name for itself and is a proven, reliable brand. The Haval has a question mark over its reliability as the brand hasn’t been around for that long around here for us to really compare the ownership experience.
I’d personally spend a touch more on a comparably equipped Kia - as I know ownership will be a hassle free experience. Also when you want to sell the car down the line, the better resale basically cancels out any difference in initial price - it’s the safer bet.
@@User-cb4jm thanks, love your work. I think I’ll be getting the seltos for the wife. I’m still waiting on my raptor to arrive.
@@User-cb4jm which is the better SUV, the Seltos or the Honda BRV?
Paul, which would be your pick the Seltos or Corolla Cross ?
Yes plzzzz advise
Does it has panoramic sunroof ??🤔🤔
Finally a car with a full sized spare… seems dumb in Oz (esp with out distances between cities) to have a tyre goo kit or even a space saver spare…
It's crazy that the GTX line in India is better in than this in some aspects..
Interior wise there are few changes on cup holders and mainly we got full alloy wheels.
The alloys shown in this are for HTX and HTX+ varient in India.
Any idea when it will hit the South African market???
I have a 2021 or 2022 two-tone yellow Seltos... I love her look. I've had no problems with her, and everyone I show her off to gets jealous. My only issues are the interior chrome, which blinds me when I drive during twilight. And the power boot button on my fob, when it's just hydraulically assisted...
How do you know it's a her?🤣
That’s not a power boot button. That’s just to unlock the boot from afar if someone wants to get something from your car.
I think Only Australia get new kia seltos without 360 cameras and digital gear selector which is disappointing. I ve seen these features in overseas models
USA does not get this either.
Hi Paul can you guys please review the 2023 turbocharged Subaru Outback thank you. also is it just me that thinks the back of the lower spec seltos models kind of look like the back of the 2016 honda hrv’s but more modern?
Just say no to Subaru. You don’t want to be one of those people everyone laughs at. We laugh at them here in the Northeastern United States anyway. It’s the car of liberals…if that means anything to you. Haha! I don’t even watch the reviews because Subarus make me sick. They are rather ugly too. Well, very ugly to be honest.
Just to clarify, I don’t believe in vehicles being a status symbol. But at the same time, you wouldn’t want to buy a vehicle that is widely associated with people that suck the big one either. Unless you have absolutely no other choice of course.
@@Ricky-mo6mv cause in America they look like shit, in Australia people don’t care if you drive a Subaru. I already have a 2016 Subaru outback 3.6r and it’s perfectly fine and I’m looking to buy a second car which will be a 2023 Subaru Outback touring XT . anyways what car do you drive then i bet it’s worse than any Subaru.
@@MrJBL0 Really…they look different in Australia? That’s good! I have always heard that they are a reliable vehicle, but here in America it somehow became the pick of liberals for decades. Many of them are currently adorned with Biden stickers, so that should tell you something. They are also the people you see hanging out in parking lots, in their Subarus talking on their cell phone via Bluetooth while flailing their arms incessantly. I suspect it’s a different scenario in Australia. Nothing personal.
I lease a 2021 KIA Seltos SX turbo in neptune blue and have been very happy with it. It’s nice to have a vehicle that isn’t exactly like everyone else’s on the road. Only time will tell if it’s reliable. In the meantime though, I’m just comfortable knowing that I don’t look like a douche.
@@Ricky-mo6mv ok
tried it yesterday, it s lovely but quite hard in the city to turn at low speed, the steering wheel doesnt turn that easily at lower speed.
Hmm. I think the steering is awesome. People who drive my car comment on how good the radius is as well…at low speeds of course.
can you please review the mercedes benz glc 300e
what SUV has the quietest ride - I wish i could get the smaller rims and bigger tyres of the S spec on the GT Line
Im sold! So much for such a good price.
disappointly still has only single zone air conditioner and no wireless apple/ android connect. so not for me
ordered one last week 6 to 9 months wait.
is that the fastest reverse test?!
Ordered a New Seltos Sport in Pluton Blue, quoted 28th July delivery estimate, so five months. Who knows how accurate that is. In Brisbane
When launch in india
I think that the Seltos is the class leader 👍.
Of course it is!
@@Ricky-mo6mv 👍😀
Is the Honda BRV in the same class as the Seltos? Which is the better buy?
Please review Audi Q3 sportsback 2023
Ordered gt plutonium blue , 4 week wait...
Why you are not stating the price with different engines
I have been waiting for my Kia Seltos GT Line for 12 months in Australia, the wait times are way too long!!!
146kw amd 8.2 secs for 0-100. The kilowatt count suggests that it should be a lot faster.
but Paul why are you wearing a two tone outfit the same as the car
great content my brother
Loved my 2021 Seltos SX Turbo so much, I just ordered the 2024 version which upgraded EVERYTHING I would have upgraded. Its an excellent looking truck and handles beautifully. My ONLY complaint with KIA is they short-change the Seltos buyer when they don't offer the gun metal gray color. Its petty nonsense and cheapens the brand!
Someone tell me why he's happy for ditching the dct transmission?
was expecting panaromic and they’ve surprised with NO SUNROOF
Reversing at 75km/h sounds scary. I wonder if that's the fastest you've tested?
From what I've found, the Nissan Z Manual they tested a few months back reached 76km/h, so only 1km/h short but still VERY fast in reverse!
@@henrytoussaint7 I assume the ratio is so tall because the overall reversing experience is easier when you can manage the power smoothly. A tall reverse ratio helps with that aspect of drivability.
Where are you from?
In South Africa we don't get the AWD, sunroof, the old screen and the top of the range GT still has the DC-T
Maybe Kia uses us as a dumping ground because we don't have the AWD Sportage models too
Disappointing
Excelent Vechicle💚💚💚
It seems like Kia/Hyundai are moving away from being Australia’s value proposition and handing that mantle to the likes of Haval and MG ☹
Because they make good cars now not trash
MG is a Chinese company with British brand in disguise, Haval is from China…..I will think twice before buying anything from CCP’s China, which has been bullying and even threatening Australia!
Idk why the sad face. It’s a good thing. Kia and Hyundai will takeover brands such as Toyota and Nissan who’s been lagging behind in interior tech.
@@Hansanaw and performance
@@Hansanaw Sad face is for my own selfish reasons. They have priced themselves beyond what I can afford. If I want a small/mid size SUV I’ll likely have to roll the dice on a Haval. When Kia/Hyundai were still relatively new and unproven yet in the Australian market, at least I knew that South Korea had high manufacturing standards. China though 🤷♂
Seltos is a great car with a couple of really annoying things
The speed alert is set at 1kph over the posted limit which could be marginally classed as a safety thing
However when travelling through a school zone at 10 pm the speed alert is a stupid thing to have
The lack of being able to turn this feature off permanently is a rather large oversight, all it does is make the start process of the car 3 or so steps extra on every start up
I really hope Kia fix this with a software update to keep the beeping off by default. It's absolutely infuriating and not fair to expect the driver to have to navigate through the menu every time they turn on the car to turn off this feature. Mitsubishi got it right by still showing the speed limit on the dash, and simply having it flash if you are going faster, no annoying beeping at you.
Love your reviews! I was doing some research and noticed a disturbing trend for new small and mid size vehicles being imported to Australia and would be really interested if you are seeing same trend.
It appears that manufacturers are dumping poor fuel economy vehicles in the small to mid size segments in Australia. Unfortunately this also means that we are stuck with lousy performance in this segment unless you buy highest spec trim.
Kia & Hyundai - all vehicles except for highest spec trim normally aspirated, Ford no mild hybrids, SKODA no entry or mid level Fabias, Subaru no XT turbo,
Wait a minute...The 4 year old Seltos sold in India has that full gauge cluster display screen in it..🙄🙄
so after few decades we reached the look of GM Pontiac Aztek (see Braking Bad)
Nice 😊
Looks like this is the King of the Reverse Speed Test 😂😂😂
I had just about decided my next new car would be the Mazda CX-30 Astina when along came the announcement of the revised Kia Seltos GT-line, slightly less expensive, a better view out, a more flexible engine and best of all a regular 8-speed auto in place of the DCT.
BUT I am horrified to now learn that we are not getting the 360 degree camera available in some markets and thus presumably not the dashboard side views when using the indicators. At my advanced, not easy to turn the neck age, that omission is a deal-breaker for me. I could well put up with all the hard plastic and the single air-con , but I want that all-round view and would gladly give up the silly interior "disco" lights for it. Oh well, back to the Mazda. I can console myself with its classier interior, turning headlights, likely quieter interior and more supple ride, a 360 camera and a colour that really appeals to me (platinum quartz). Plus a more convenient servicing location.
Cx 30 is much smaller in height and boot is so tiny vs seltos. Feature 4 feature is cx30 same price driveaway 45k? I agree about the 360 camera its on everything now over 40k it's madness. Engine in seltos would kill the mazda at 146kw turbo that a huge factor.
Disappointed that does not have dual zone air con. Also bug with the turn off speed alert is a show stopper for me.
Indian spec got the dual zone
Damn, 75km/h in reverse. 35km/h was enough.
that is a crazy figure... in reverse 😄😄😄
Seems like a defect already.
3rd podium...
Kiaaaaaa!!!! Grossly underrated in Australia.
Lol
Kia made a good decision stepping away from that terrible dual clutch transmission. This seltos may be a better buy than the tucson for that reason. If you live in a hilly area don't even consider a dual clutch, tucson or sportage. You will regret it.
Better to get an eclipse cross , yaris cross or corolla cross if you live in hilly area , this seltos will also be very good in hilly areas ,because of the automatic transmission
How does the Seltos compare to the Honda BRV in your opinion? Which is the better SUV?
Great content that doesn't mention the police although Paul is mild mannered '. Lol.
Death of the DCT Whopee . That would be my first question when buying a new car does it have a DCT or CVT ? If so not interested thank you.
DCT in korean cars are bad
@@erensfeet5563 vw dct are good but I still wouldn't buy one.
It’s why I stick to Mazdas. Nothing beats their 6 speed autos that are in pretty much all their cars.
I like the car but I’ve got to talk to the editor. Instead of Darude, that was an amazing opportunity for a rickroll :)
I wish manufacturers would include the option for smaller wheels and more rubber.
Does that mean Kia Sportage/Hyundai Tucson will get 1.6T + 8 speed automatic?
I would bet money on it. The DCT on the Sportage is one of the worst on the road.
@@kane4013 dct on spotage ??? not on my 19 model...6 speed
@@alans1313 The turbo variants are DCT
@@alans1313 Same with Seltos, 2022 sportage/tucson 1.6T petrol with DCT
@@kane4013cvt are the worst type of gearbox , I liked other cars but all had the cvt , the Sportage has normal 6 speed auto. Maybe I should have got the 2.5 lt or diesel , for a bit more power, but more than happy with gearbox and handling , especially after I replaced tryes , less road noise and better grip , cheers all