War Thunder DEV - Is THIS the NEW BEST F-16 in the game? FLYING the F-16AM with MAWS & AIM-120's!
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- Checking out the new F-16AM to see if its the best F16 in the game!
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So France, gets an entire subtree in a tech tree that didn't need it to give them more AMRAAM vehicles, but Italy, who leased their F16 with the express purpose of using AMRAAMs can't even get them on their ADF.
We got the Gripen and Harrier so it’s fine imo
It’s crazy because it even says in the wiki for the F-16 ADF (Italy) that “Italian F-16 armament consisted of AIM-120, AIM-9L, and also AIM-7E and M anti-air missiles.” That quote was taken directly from the wiki.
Chinese MLU also missing AIM-120's as well.
@@MrNPC Chinese MLU didnt have 120s....... its a Taiwanese F16 technically and USA didnt give the MLU 120s so no it shouldnt get them. this is precisely why china getting a taiwan F16 was fkn stupid considering at the time the contract was ONLY for taiwan and china had no say in that agreement
@@123TheCloopthe thing is Taiwanese F16 uses 120C-7 which isn’t the other 120s we get this update. Not saying it will be overpowered but maybe 120C wasn’t within the scope for this time
50 years of F-16 in 2024
Legend of a plane ✈️
the F-16AM shouldnt have MAW unless the CM pods are equiped tho
The maw antenas are on top of the aircraft and sweden gripen C didnt got maw while it have it arexis maw system
@@CruLisP france shouls have maw oon the 2K series too if the magic2 are equiped
Germany seething right now, how lovely.
France gets Benelux and Italy best Leo 2... they mad right now
Pretty much Americas situation with the F16 and the F15 right now. Japan has the best F15 and the Belgian F16 is the best since it can bring 300cm which helps alot (MAW is irrelevant)
Germany has been fucked as far as top tier tanks badly. Italy now is getting better 2A7 technically and Sweden has had the best Leo 2’s for 2 years now.
As far as German air it’s not as bad since it’s all exports for the most part so it has an excuse to not be great but if the Eurofighter comes and it’s trash then that will be an issue.
@@ICECAPPEDSKY I'm fine with the f-15 and f-16 as we still have both and they don't. They just need to give the f-15 all it's amraams and add the AV-8B plus
I mean, it's understandable, with their only fox 3 plane being an overtiered F-4, and the better Leopards going to Sweden and Italy.
Germany might get a swiss and danish sub-tree w/f16 and f18 when that is added.
Yall really crying when German Leo’s far outclass Americas ground as well as stomps the Italian areite mbts, they needed the Leo to even have a shred of a chance of competing, I agree with you about the Swedes sides of it though
France air becomes meta, i am interested in the price that it will pay for the next years. I hope France air will not end up like Leclercs which nowadays badly need a new apfsds and remodel of their frontal armour
Also remember the before irccm magic 2 , it had a worst flair resistance than the 9l , hope we will not get fucked like this once again
as a belgian, i'm really happy to see my country in war thunder : )
I'm still waiting for spain :(
and yet it will ruin toptier...
@@MaltheAndersen-ms9gpliterally how lmao
@@MineKraftwerk_pain
Me too !
Overall the F-16AM is only better because the F-16C lacks armament,many people forget its the first F-16 which carried AIM-9X's.
What's funny is the fact USA made f16 f15 f4 but in game we have like the worse versions of them gaijin just hates USA plus all other countries get 30km+ amraams but USA gets like 18km amraams. By the time the US reaches the field R77`s would have picked 60% of us off and if the Russians players were smart they would abuse it and get to the battlefield fire all amraams then go back to base and keep the cycle going if amraams are coming I think we should get the aim120b and c
120b coming to the game but not on a single american jet lmfao. Typical Gaijin Bullshit.
Honestly Germany should have gotten this, not France.
The title is incorrect. Obviously the F-16C is the best F-16 because it is in the American tech tree 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
This has MAW as well as being able to take more countermeasures, it’s literally better
@@mesobean Imagine needing more countermeasures when you can just not put yourself in the position to use more of it
@@mesobean the irony goes right over your hesd
@@ClankerWankerah, I see now. mb
@@mesobean it is a sidegrade at best, the MAW can useful but the extra countermeasures means you only carry 4 missiles so that's a no go. F-16C accelerates faster and has a slight edge on rate fighting too
France gets all the Benelux stuff even though it has enough of its own, and Germany gets an old shitty F4 ICE that is also cropped.
This is just so ridiculous.
For me it's a good time to stop playing WT, Gaijin should play their own garbage..
everyone speak french in belgium and germany has the best tank in the game right now, they cant be best at everything
@@Zx17OPv57i That's nonsense, Germany is not number 1 when it comes to tanks. And Germany doesn't have to get the best jet, a usable one is enough. And that's definitely not the F-4 ICE. But whatever.
@@Maxxx800ify yes i understand but belgium can only go with France, you will have switzerland with f-18 later, just be patient
@@Zx17OPv57i As I said, they should do what they want. I've had enough of it.
@@Maxxx800ify and france will need a f-16 later with better fox 3 than MICA because the latest version of aim 120 are litrle better than MICA and france have nothing better before meteor missile or mica ng
Time for new classified document leak in the forum so gaijin will buff the Us tech tree
You should leak the classified document that the US used the AV-8B Plus
hey mat just wondering if you have/ever thought about making a squadron for fans.... just a thought
Patreon squadron of fans.
Can you make a video of how the swedish ground tech tree could look like in the future? I would love to see it
same
Some of the Mirage 2000s should have MAWS, hope to see them coming soon.
So is the Block 20 MLU not getting 9ms and 120s 🤨
china getting an f-16 was stupid to begin with.
@@Brzzzyexe why do people still complain about this 2 years later china got an f16 move on already
Non les français ne vont pas se plaindre d'avoir les belges dans leur arbre... En vrai on s'en branle si tu veux tout savoir,😂qu'ils soient chez nous ou chez les autres n'a que peu d'importance, c'est pas nos avions mais bien ceux des belges et on est content pour eux. Je te l'écris en français pour que ça percute plus vite. 😉
Bro, why MLU doesn't have access to the 120s 😢
That’s what I’ve been asking, like a block 20 not getting them? 💀
why Block 50 doesnt have access to AIM-9X is the better question theres 50G AMRAAMS why not AIM-9X its only slightly more.
The f16c should definitely have a mws system in game since it has one irl.
I swear the block 50 didn’t?
@@soysauce6977 I know for a fact that there is a switch for MAW on the CMS panel
@@zacharymarino8926 doesn’t necessarily mean anything there’s also auto TCAS switches when the block 50 doesn’t have that, I’m pretty sure they just make all f16 cockpits the same sorta like blank buttons in cars
@@soysauce6977 It's compatible and forwarded as suggestion to devs in bug reports site
@@soysauce6977yes it’s exactly like blank buttons. Saves cost, new dyes and molds would need to be made for all these different export versions if they didn’t do it like this
Great, now we have the best F16 but they completly f*** up the FM of the Mirage 2000....
What happened in the dev to the M2K?
@@ICECAPPEDSKY they modified few parameters and now it turns less at low speed or/and with afterburner on
I never really tried to dogfight at low speed with it period because it bleeds speed super hard. It’s definitely something to keep in mind but when I fly it I rarely go slower than .90 Mach. Going slow or dogfighting in Air rb with a delta wing is a death sentence.
Probably won’t change too much for me.
@@ICECAPPEDSKY often my dogfights with the m2k are in rb ground battle, when you merge with an ennemy you have no choice but to turn hard
"french main will complain" i am a french main speaking french and pretty active in the community and every french main i know are really exited for the F16AM
ceux que je connais s'en battent les couilles a un niveau stratosphérique et s'amuse a critiquer la belgique mdr... ce qui est chiant a la longue vu que je suis belge ahaha
@@letankiste2340 et bah, on connaît pas les meme personnes visiblement 😅 je sais même pas pourquoi ils se moque du F16AM vue que ça va sûrement être le meilleur du jeu 🇫🇷🤝🇧🇪
En vrai on s'en fout, je suis content pour les belges car c'est leur F16 pas les nôtres, juste qu'ils sont dans notre arbre. Si il y a des français qui ont gueulé pour ça clairement ils ont un soucis.
@@letankiste2340 C'est le cas pour moi 😂mais critiquer non... Pourquoi faire critiquer ?? Ca doit être des idiots...
@@user45g-4c5rf bah perso je suis content mdr
la france est une grosse nation militaire donc d'office on s'attend a ce qu'elle soit présente dans le jeu, mais la belgique...
c'est minuscule et personne ne connait ce pays. donc c'est d'autant plus gratifiant d'avoir été choisi aha
in my opinion then I think giving the Benelux tech tree to France is not a good idea and they should've given it to Germany instead
Would still rather take the better looks and hmd on the f-16c
As a French main, I cannot wait for this thing to in real servers
Hope we get LMUR on the KA-52 👹
lmao no. russian cas is already good enough
Need a new helicopter for that, currently the only helicopter that can carry lmur is the mi28nm, you'll need ka52+ for the lmur
@@_solaris_4057 you're right. Maybe next update we'll see the Ka-52M so they'll have to add some new missile to it otherwise doesn't make sense to add it.
LMUR is currently only tested on the Mi-28NM & KA-52 and only the NM is in-game.
@@_solaris_4057 Yes Mi-28NM & Ka-52M but they could add it to the Mi-28NM and make it more unique currently theres not really a reason to grind it besides the krizhantemas.
Germany need it!!!
Not France!
We gonna ignore that 16 million GE Wtff
Why doesn't the American F16C have MAWs it had it in real life and MAWs is already in the game plus they already gave it to the F16AM so there is absolutely no reason why the f16C shouldn't because they are both generally almost the same aircraft.
Bro US isn't getting anything good like DAMN dude
the f15c
that should be germany.. 😢
idk germany has an amazing ground tree
@@a.e.richardson218 were taking about air not fucking ground
France is gonna be so fucking OP
I've waited years for it
As a French main I could not be happier
@@KenzoMain Same thing here.
With the current crop of medium range active radar missiles coming to game all of these jets with them will perform BVR roughly the same. All of their radars have enough range to fire these missiles at ranges in which they will be effective and deadly. The AIM-54 has greater range however at really long ranges these missiles are easy to defeat and at close range the AIM-54 can't pull as hard as these other missiles which means it won't be as effective.
It won't be until and if they add some of the more modern long range air to air missile which there are not many of them.
How do i use the 180 extra countermeasures it only lets me use 120 even tho i have the pods equipped?
I had this glitch as well on the new f16a. Try clicking on the countermeasures alone on the mods menu and hit copy. It will start a new custom load out. This worked for me. Let me know if that helps.
@@rodneycook3674 yeah for some reason custom lodout 1 is or was bugged
And they seriously didn’t give the F16C MAW ??? It literally has it irl.
nah, it isnt
tbh i still prefer the mirage 5f for th amount of missiles but the F_16 will stop me from having to grind the american tech tree
Mirage 5F can only carry 4 missiles.
@@FISH_SAUCER 8 with fox3s
@@Astrofax2.0 now yes. That was sent when fox 3s weren't added yet.
You have to put the maw pod on a hardpoint in order to change countermeasures to chaff only, since you are only changing the countermeasures for the pod itself. The f16AM comes with 120 flares for free.
Su-25SM3 was the first one with MAW. And harrier too.
Funny that I was about to start the grind of the us tech tree afrer finishing the french one of the F-104 and F-16, and now I see both plane I wanted on top notch versions in the french tech tree, might start playing more of wt lmao
As someone who plays all nations. I actually think it’s balanced that you get a MAW system if you loose 2 missiles. Going from 6(which isn’t a ton of missiles) to just 4 is a big thing to give up
You dont have to take maw under your pylons to use it. This aircraft already has preinstalled maw camera (or smth idk) above its engine, at the same place there f16a mlu and f16d barak have their parachutes.
+1 and top of the airframe
raider
i worked with belgian airforce as i served with the ducth airforce and they were complete shit, the best benlux F16 should be from Holland period
Sad to see there's no Dutch modern jet fighter on BeNeLux tree. Should be Dutch tree given to the German instead and just give them their F-16 already..
We can add the mig-25 now without it being broken
F16a block 20 should get amraams and aim9m if France gets this in their subtree
How can I play thise Custom battles?
Alguien más noto qué todos ahora están con los Mirage farmeando Francia? Porque por cada partia que inicio tengo 5 o 6 compañeros con Mirage2K
You should cover the F-16A at 12.0 that carries Aim-9Ms
Which country?
@@ohitsmenm5678 the new Belgian one
They are 100% getting removed
@@KNMRoaldAmundsen If they stay the american one should get them too.
@@STRYKER1467 they won’t
Bro iam waiting for the sufa 🤫😈 it will be the best one
A lot of other french planes are missing the maws
ah yes the best falcon for france thank you gayjin
Shouldn’t the pylon also be able to carry fox 3 missiles not just bombs?
Depends on configuration, the inner pylon can only carry droptanks, and some ordinance, I've seen pictures on newest f16 like the block 70 carrying 2 amrams per pylon, except the wingstips
@@DrGrim-et6db I’m talking about the PIDs pylon. All modern f16s can carry AMRAAMs on the wingtip
No way to mount it. An aim7 would work but the aim120 uses a rail, aim 7 lugs.
@@leftnut7508 Aim120s have lugs. If you’re talking about the PIDs system, you attack a secondary pylon that interfaces with the lugs. Aim120 lugs work on f16 wingtip pylons.
@@usarmyalaskanick I used to put these missiles on the f16, I haven't seen or heard of any adapter for the lau129 to be put onto a mau12 within the pids pylon.
Did you just record this today because the last two days I haven’t been able to get the flares to work
That's the same F16 that Argentina bought from Denmark. I can't wait to put the Argentinian camouflage on it
Denmark only has F16A's.
You can remove my google link but still doesnt hide the fact the adf fired its first aim120 in 1989. And is slotted to carry 6 of them.
What is the point of giving the adf aim120 ? It would jus tgo to 13.0 and be a less good f16C
@valeredumont5018 adf is a better dog fighter. Go ahead ill take you 1 v 1 f16 adf vs f16c. And you statement is not really accurate. But the reason being. Is it supposed to get them so why wouldn't you especially at a later date. Considering by that time other countries should have fox 3. Unless the snail isn't giving the aim120 to the adf because the aim120 was to dominant the first 10nyears it was out. Considering no one had anything to touch it at that time.
Belgium should be in the German tree considering their current situation with the F4 ICE
0 ties to germany
@@bigmemer4398 Official language and a border. Gaijin has pulled longer shots with these
@@CatMan-tu8qv netherlands shouldve gone to germany, belgium shouldve stayed in france
@@CertifiedWarCriminal... the only thing the Netherlands could bring to germany is an Apache
Give Poland to Germany. I don't mind Benelux in France, every tree except America and USSR are gonna need subtrees eventually. Sooner than later if Gaijin keeps up their release schedule
bro where did he get 16 million golden eagles from
MAT will Taiwan get f16 viper yes or no
no
Mat you one of my fav warthunder creators
I swear if they f- up the F22 imma get mad since that's probably the only modern US aircraft besides the F14 the US will get the best version of...
You gonna see the f22 in the next 5 year so…
they will, its not russian.. duh
what the F.... belgian the best benelux F16 should be DUTCH
Raaaaah Belgium Power !
First :D
52s
10 seconds ago, damn
1 minute ago dam
25 sec is crazy
The patch that nerfed every single flying vehicle energy retention resulted in the block10 and F-16C have similar sustained turn rate, and the block15/20 worse than the C. This means that right now the F-16C still has a 2 circle performance advantage over the F-16AM (block15) on a clean configuration. If they carry weapons the C even gets more of an advantage
Good🇺🇲
Which patch exactly?
hell yeah, nice
@@Faust_002 the one that introduced the mig29G to germany i think
f-16 am is bad just because you cant have chaff and 6 aim 120, only flares available by default
thats the same with every jet
@@lightningstrike5024 no you can choose on every others chaff or flares, on f-16 am you only have flares
Thats most likely a bug
how is that not in nazi tec tree?
the f16C never was the best in game bro lol
The best F-16? Uh, yeah it is...
It was for quite awhile but ok
Overall, it was. In dogfighting, it was the block 10
It was and still is
China should get mirage 2000-5 and the f 16v block 70/72 for Taiwan
This is bait
No!
130 views in 4 minutes... Matt fell off big time 😞😞
Adf should have aim 120
No it shouldn’t
@PickledPear1017 yes it should considering its in the load out. Go ahead and argue that one I dare you. Just so I can link the Google page I just dare you. Do you even know what adf means ??
Stop removing my link to google.
@@jessiesmoak3380still doesn’t mean it should get it lmao what’s the point in two aim120 carrying f16s
@@soysauce6977 i wouldn't agree to the us f16 adf getting it but the italian one should considering it was deployed with aim120s and never had the system to carry aim7s.