The NEW Wave 2 Portable Air Conditioner Review
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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In today’s video we give our full review of the new EcoFlow Wave 2 to let you know if this is a suitable option for van life. We dive into all the facts and features, show you how it works, install it into a van, and define who this portable AC is for, and who it’s not for.
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Ok so it does not come with the battery nor the 12volt plug or the solar plug or the window vent mount And the mount is made by another company and has to be fitted to a car hmmm and this is suppose to be an option . Sounds to me like a money pit.
I think this ECO-Vent openings should have mosquite net and somekind of shutters to protect from the rain. Also it wouldn't look so "open" to outside luring someone to put trash into to pipes. Also this look screams you're inside, not so stealth solution.
I had the WAVE in 92 degree humid weather last year. I used the dual vents, venting outside the passenger side. I was so miserably hot all night, I left the next morning at daybreak. It didn't cool the van to any comfortable degree. . Any ideas why? I am wondering if I should not of sealed off the vent hole that pulls in the air, and had the inside air recirculed instead. I regret buying this unit. BTW, I plugged into 110.
I had same issue, could not get the Wave 2 to work, 98F + outside with high humidity, did not cool van at all, I don't think this is a good camper van solution, it is heavy, bulky, takes up a lot of space with the hoses setup no matter how you do it, would not recommend anyone go this route. A small window AC unit would have worked better, same weight, same wattage, faction of the cost. If you have a camper van without an AC, chances are, you have limited space already and this thing is heavy and to set it up correctly takes a good amount of space, not to mention all the extra work you would need to do to properly insulate the hoses to get max efficiency. If you really need an AC, highly recommend just installing one on top that was designed for the purpose.
Nice and detailed review, thanks. Definitely not stealthy with the air venting out the passenger window, but works.
I have both Wave2 with add'l battery and Wave1. I bought them for transportability as well as battery/solar options. So far, I am using both in my 1100 sq foot house in NW Montana. Low humidity and so far highest outside temp (last year and this summer to date) has been 96F. I have the Wave2 in my living room with a helper fan from living room to bedroom. These rooms are on west side of the house so are the hottest late afternoon. I am able to keep them below 72F on the warmest days. The Wave2 is considerably quieter than Wave1 so Wave 1 is in a room furthest from the bedroom .. a home office space used mostly by my pets. Again 70-72 on the warmest days. I use a hose duct wrap and I use exhaust hose only and intake from house vs outside. I have EcoFlow Pro 2000 and last year in testing was able to run Wave1 7.5 ish hours on the fully charged Pro. I have not tested Wave2 with battery.
If the unit was inside a tent or van why is the air inlet needed? Wouldn't it be better to cool/ recirculate the inside air rather than drawing hot outside air through the unit?
Cold air is not being produced, the heat has to be TRANSFERRED somewhere. 🤦♂️
Law of thermodynamics much?
That’s what I’m thinking and really hoping for too. I read some comments discussing how that would cause a negative vacuum or something and I don’t really understand it. I mean, most things aren’t perfectly airtight anyways
Yes
Reasearch how compressor type AC systems work.
Love the product but the price is just too much.
Thanks for showing a quick way to set this unit up in a sprinter.
However you didn't share any info on the outside temp vs inside temp or how long it takes to lower the inside temp. Pretty much felt like an ecoflow commercial.
I liked the Ecoflow power kit until I learned that the batteries are assembled in china. They're not the best for making quality products so I will stay with Lithionics. Most cells are made in china but there are some brands of batteries made here. Lithionics and Battleborn. Lithionics are built better and are safer. I'm not sure yet if Victron batteries contain cobalt but that will never be in my van.
From what I've learned in other videos, the bottom hose in the back, (Fresh Air) circulates into the exhaust and never comes out the front. They are separate areas that do not meet.
Exactly. He did completely misunderstand how this works.. but so did I when I first ran across one of these. The hoses are actually pretty essential for most purposes, and you need to lead both of them outside. Then outside and inside air wont mix and there wont be pressure differences, etc. And inside air will cool in the cooling mode
i tested in my Tiffin Cahaba 144 sprinter with curtain so cabin not cooling. Its 96 degrees in south florida today, you can run this 2.5hr on high but need your AC unit on - It wont work alone - having Coleman Mach 13,000 btu quickly lowers temp to 75. then use Ecoflow Wave 2 to help keep it cool. i also use montek 1000 and my battery is 540ah battleborn with xantrex.
Thanks. I live in South Florida also. I was looking at either the Cruise N Comfort interior mount AC or Nomadic Cooling roof mounted Air conditioner.
A mini split works better
Mine doesn't do much in temps over 90 in an insulated sprinter van. Also, hooking up the hoses and having to drape them out the window sucks when you're trying to keep low key or stealth camp. If I keep my van running with the AC on and help cool the inside temps it helps.
I’d recommend the 12v mini slit unit. It doesn’t take up valuable real estate inside the vehicle, and I like the ecoflow line up of products.
That is a great review! I don't need one for myself. But you answered a lot of questions about the unit. It is a lot bigger than I thought it was going to be in real life. And yes, I agree about the marketing not being super honest about the hoses and so on for it to work properly. It does seem like a good unit though. For the right person. Thanks for doing this review!
I rate it about C - , it is too heavy , with a big hassle in venting but worse it is one very expensive solution for cooling an off grid RV van. What solution would you recommend for a cooler for no roof air option no big ac sticking out of van as it would fall out?
Neat idea, but like portable ACs that people attempt to use for houses these are super inefficient. I get why they made a 'portable' one but I wish someone would release a 'tiny' mini-split for ~252 cubic feet (not sq ft which is the common rating people use, which is bad imo). It would be ideal to be a roof or wall mountable so people would have options. I could see that selling like hotcakes for van life people who need/want both.
Hearing '10k to 14k' BTU for our small spaces is just crazy, is a well insulated van still that bad when compared to a home?
I'll add to this, I dont have a van (yet) but I'm planning a small remote office/weekend camper deal and I'm amazed more effort isnt put into efficient use of the space and power through better builds.
Yeah! An even smaller mini-split! =) Like a tiny/micro-split. LOL
I just returned my unit for a new one. Mine did more than just leak a bit. After running it and draining it through the hose i would still get significantly leakege as soon as i moved it. Is that what you experienced???
Ecoflow's definitely moving the needle forward for the van life and tiny home segment. I'm sure more people will catch on. Sorry to hear you're dealing with some early adopter issues. At least we know their customer service is generally pretty good.
Is it safe to leave in your car in high temperature?
Recently purchased a Wave 2 (w/battery) for the specific purpose of cooling a square-drop trailer (5x9), and a roof top tent mounted on top. A/C for night-time use while sleeping. Cobbled-together a Y fitting off of the cool air supply duct, and reduced down to two 3" collapsible hoses (vinyl exterior/ aluminized interior). One to trailer, one to tent. Wave 2 will be located outside, off of the ground, in the annex attached to the overhang of the roof top tent. Did a setup test in the driveway the other day, and seems to work okay. Real-time test in a few days during a 4-night stay at a Nat'l park. I own a few EcoFlow products, and their app is convenient to run all devices.
How’d it go?
I am looking for pictures or video's from others who has installed it in a 159 ext Ram Promaster!!!..
First of all, thank you very much for this excellent review. With so many tips and knowledge I was able to make a decision. this was the best review I have seen so far. So my compliments and thanks. However, please, please, if you make a movie of 28 minutes, don't fill it up with this senseless, soulless, useless 'music'. It is frustrating for a musician to listen to it and it really hurts and tires my ears and brain. Sorry for this comment, but so many people do it these days, and it is really not necessary. Your video speaks for itself, and you made a quality video!
A thousand times Yes, herman. At least he sounded like a genuine human speaking, which is rare enough, but the ubiquitous canned music is a plague. The value of the information kept me going! Still pondering whether I'll need the intake hose for an upstairs bedroom...
The short answer : yes
The long answer : yes
The key to success : massive battery bank, massive solar panel setup, parking in shade whenever possible, only require A/C for key intervals (aka 2 hours to fall asleep, then turn off)
Appreciate your reviews .. always professional. One question can I vent out my MaxxAir Fan vent … I have a front and rear MaxxAir and want to connect to the rear one to vent the two lines …
Great question. I'm wondering this as well.
I seen in the video that you need the factory battery attachment but didn’t see if my question was addressed. Can this be wired into an existing 12v battery bank Victron power system to power it off your battery bank?
Yes, but with the provided cables, you would need to run it through an inverter. In theory, one could use the battery input (which connects to the EcoFlow battery bank) to power it but that would require a modification.
still think this works better with only the heat duct attached
I have used it sitting next to me, to get a cool draft to cool down while resting in the house. was able to run the unit long enough to cool down and not raise the temp of the room I was in. So yes, I have used it w/o the hoses connected and it works for my need. Sure the hoses can be used to work more as a whole room/space appliance.
$2200 just for the ac is a lot.
5,100 BTU cooling capacity is plenty for a van, I have the Wave 2 and it will freeze you out. And heating capacity is plenty. I live in Southern Nevada and it gets hot down here in the Mohave desert. There is a such thing as over cooling and heating.. I think you need to focus on the portability, sure you can buy and mount a rood top A/C, but that is NOT going to run off batter or solar power. You did a good review of the unit but I don't believe you used it in a van.
Thank you mate. Do you know what amps it pulls on full?
What battery do you use?
You totally glossed over or misunderstood how the “conditioned” side works. If placed outside a tent as you describe. It’s efficiency is lowered drastically as it would also suck outside air through the front lower grill to condition and pump it into the tent. This makes the unit work much less efficiently, using warm humid air all the time to then cool. Placing the unit inside the tent or any enclosed environment would let it use potentially already cooled and drier air to then further extract heat from said air. This would compound its efficiency.
Any window vent adapters for transit anywhere?
WOW!!! are you one of the pit crew on Talladega Nights The ballad of Ricky Bobby? Spitting image
What 400w solar panel delivers 400w? Never in my experience - the comment about keeping battery in equilibrium when running off solar is I fear wildly optimistic.
Great review but that underlying music track was annoying as hell.
What state do you live in and did you find it cooled the van enough? I see people on FB groups state they returned it etc. I wonder if the people who don't have success just dont vent the system anywhere. THoughts?
Appreciate your reviews .. always professional. One question can I vent out my MaxxAir Fan vent … I have a front and rear MaxxAir and want to connect to the rear one to vent the two lines …
I have thought the same, but there would be a lot of hose which heats up.
excellent overview .. thanks! ❤ I had already ordered mine a few days ago.
Ecoflow just needs to turn this to a roof mounted unit. Is there unit that can do this currently in the market?
Domestic RTX 2000 and Velit both run off 12V so they're really efficient. Nomadic makes an even stronger once for a much higher price, but I'm not sure how compatible either are with the EcoFlow ecosystem. Most people use those with DIY (often Victron) systems. EcoFlow is easier, portable and cheaper, but those options are stronger and sleeker.
To save energy,I would recommend using this w another heating source such as large white candles some spacers and a terra cotta pot. This could be done when awake,and the candle can be extinguished just before sleep, lit again in the morning if necessary.While the heater would provide more instant heat,the candle could be used to provide more longterm heat.Candles made w Crisco shortening in tempered glass can last for days.Just melt the Crisco enough to scoop some out into the candles,pack it down slightly,but not too tight,and then run a small single white candle down into the middle,making sure it reaches the bottom. It's that simple,and perfect for pairing w this device in rotation to save energy.
how long are the exhaust tubes
How has this been working out for you after testing for a few months?
Just ordered and can’t wait to receive it! I LOVE the window panel and is exactly what I’m looking for but for a Ram Promaster. Great video.
Was it worth it?
Nice to see units like this being produced.
Thanks for sharing! I'm torn between Wave 2 and Mark 2, and after watching your video, I think my rooftop tent would be better suited for Mark 2. It's also a compressor-based cooling system, but it's even more portable than Wave 2. The design allows me to easily lift it with one hand and place it in my rooftop tent.
I have the mark 2 and it’s been great for me in Louisiana. Ofcourse you have to work with its limitations and constraints. But if you can do that. To aid its capabilities it’ll do fine.
But I am looking into also getting the Wave 2 more for the hell of it. But the mark 2 has done great for me. An it is easier to move around. An the power draw is very light even on the max cooling
How long do you think it would take to fully charge the add on battery from the car port?
1159 watt hours / 100 watts = 11.59 hours
Terra wagen should make one that fits inside the maxxair vent opening to vent out the maxxair fan
How about zero breeze, I'm torn between the two. I don't care much about the heating function, weight, size, and cooling capacity are more important to me, zero breeze would be much lighter, but ecoflow cooling capacity would be higher.
Great informative video. I’ve been using mine for a couple weeks. It’s pretty bulky I must say. My biggest dislike is the hoses should be insulated. When set up inside, the exhaust hose gets very hot and heats up the air while the AC is trying to cool. This offsets the units cooling power. I’m also thinking the unit should use the fresh air hose to suck in the newly conditioned air from inside rather than outside. I’ve noticed when the compressor shuts down it pulls in humid air from outside raising the humidity inside. But I really think the hoses should be insulated.
I like the unit, but I’d say it just isn’t practical for hot and humid locations. But that’s only my opinion. I’d like to hear others opinions.
That’s been my experience with the unit also. Seems to work better with just one hose.
Great tip/suggestion! Guess it depends on where you are, but this makes sense if the outside air is really "bad"... any reason from your experience why this recirculation of air would be a bad idea? It's a heat pump - and residential heat pumps, especially ductless ones draw in fresh air from outside. But the ones attached to your hot water tanks don't have to suck in outside fresh air, and they can even vent the cold exhaust air back into your house. (Depending on how you condition the rest of your home, this may be a benefit.)
It has impressive features. But wave2 has to be connected to the battery when charging, and it weighs 50lb. It's too heavy to take off the truck. I'd probably go with the cheaper, lighter weight zero breeze given the portability.
They really want you to use their battery, should have disclosed the 48v dc input which supposedly can only be used with their other battery systems, pretty sure you can work around that without their approval, of course! Not a good way to do business in my book.
Seems to me you could put this in a cabinet for it to live, with ports in the side or floor. If your trip didnt require AC, you could plug the holes and get more storage space.
How is there not a way to charge the extra battery pack without it being on the unit? There should be a way to plug the extra battery pack into a regular socket so you can swap batteries out if using it without solar.
Did you see it at 50 degrees or colder in a van that was in 100 degree heat? Did you notice that the temp was cooler on ac versus dc?
Also does the fan turn off when it reaches set point? Or does it keep blowing and just turn off compressor?
5000 btu in a box. Same thing
So I’m a fan of ecoflow, but in a van life environment where real estate is at a premium this ac unit takes up to much of it. A better option for this situation is a mini split for RVs.
Maybe i missed it, is there a remote thermostat?
Thinking of replacing the furnace in a small pop up tent camper with one of these. Then ducting the conditioned air into the sleeping area and with the curtains closed i would want the unit to cycle pn and off according to the temperature in the sleeping area.
I like how you said "this is the wave 2" and proceeds to show the wave 1 AC unit ad. Lol
Somebody please make this unit with a 12v high current input.
It seems like a good unit, but all the hoses would prevent me from using it in my van. I would prefer the roof mounted AC
I've been thinking about snagging one of these during the anniversary sale and wanted to see what people may advice in my specific situation.
This product is a no brainer camping in a minivan (Sienna) for cooler temperatures during the night in hotter climate (Texas etc). I understand the limitations of the product but would only need it to keep temperature comfortable overnight in the warmer months of the year.
My plan would be to use the vans own AC to cool it before bedtime, and then run the Wave2 in eco mode to keep things at a comfortable level while sleeping. It looks like it's perfect for this.
The ONE concern that I have is the battery and being able to use it more than one night without shore power..
I'm assuming it will drain most of the attached battery over night, and while I have 2 solar panels, it's only 230w (100 + 130). Will this even be close to enough to top up the battery for night 2 and onward or will the capacity just get smaller for each night ? lol?
Is this a scenario that makes sense if I'd need to use it for several night out in the middle of nowhere?
I do see that they sell the 800w alternator charger, so I guess that could be a way to recharge it while running the car for faster top up, but then you do have to run the car a long time...
What say y'all?
There's portable air conditioners that have been made for years that are cheaper. About the size of a large waste basket. $250-300. Usually people use them in small bedrooms. Even seen them in semi-truck cabs. Several different brands.
Wouldn't that vent be inefficient by bringing in hot exhaust air into the intake?
This is the recommended install. The unit circulates conditioned air and exhaust air separately.
@@VanLand but surely hot air comes out of one pipe and sucked into the one right next to it, would it be possible to have the exhaust out drivers window and I take though the passenger?
@@VanLandfor what’s worth I only vented the top hose outside my boat and it works really well. Pulling in conditioned air seems more efficient than pulling in 85f+ air.
Great presentation. Two groups of questions come up: what are the temperatures in the fore and aft areas of the van assuming the AC is on the front seat; and how much water collects per hour or day of air conditioning, and is that water, potable.
Shame about the NMH Battery. I'd get a Delta to power it. Same price here in Europe.
This thing is heavy and big which makes it so uneasy to move around for putting in a wedged camper like GFC, super pacific and rooftop tents in general. Besides, the unit comes with only two vent hoses when it has three vent hose adapters. So far I felt regret to bought this AC unit 8:17 along with adapter battery. Please consider and carefully evaluation for your targeting of use before click buy button. Total weight of two units attaching together is around 50lbs.
Really, I've been considering a portable air conditioner lately, zero breeze seems to be lighter. Thanks for your comment.
Been waiting for this review
Hope it helped!
That air conditioner is huge
Air con with no room in your van or heat with space and some food ??
Great video!
Would I be able to use this with my Eco Flow River Pro?
Can I use this on my boat
I recommend some kind of mesh cover for the vents
This is product how price
You should have a tray to catch any water drip.
higher BTUs also mean higher power consumption
Great review thanks for the great
Thanks for watching!
Why would you need the additional cost of the Eco flow cable to connect when it already connects via 110 outlet?
Efficiency (roughly 50-100 watts). The proprietary DC cable allows you to connect via direct current to their Delta Max, Delta Max Extra Battery & Delta Pro. I might be missing one.
Pretty much not worth it for a van...
How many amps does it draw on full?
Does it need to vent if you're just using it as a heater?
It’s a heat pump, not just an electrical resistance element. It needs a way to exhaust the cooled air.
Can the drain be connected full time ?
Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day
Cold air out…? Since when do you have to vent a heated cabin?
It’s a heat pump, not just a space heater. So the cold air gets exhausted out the window.
Whenever I am considering a heating or cooling option, I always check the temp of the air coming out being used to cool or heat the space. If that temp isnt at least 15-20 degrees cooler or at least 30 degrees hotter than the air going in it probably wont cool or heat properly.
I probably wouldn’t use the heat pump function.
If it actually cools well for a van sized build, it does look like a good solution.
5,000 btus could work if one’s insulation is right…even in warmer areas. You dont want to oversize your ac for your space either.
It seems like a decent way to try…i like that it can have its own panels powering it directly….and it only takes 400 watts.
I wonder how it compares to the energy usage of typical units.
Very thorough. Much appreciated.
Awesome!
we just took this trip. We pstarted Boothbay and stayed on R 1 all the way north with a stop in South Bristol for a visit. Lots of beautiful stops along the way to skolnik point. Sorry we didn’t plan longer.
As per the manual: "If the product
is tilted (for over 10 minutes) or impacted by a strong external force, immediately turn the
power off and remove the power cord. Leave it to stand for at least 2 hours before using." In the context of a campervan or RV, isn't that a somewhat disqualifying constraint? if you drive all day, the unit will likely be subjected to a lot of tilting and motion. So whenever your reach camp, you'll have to wait for 2 hours before cranking up the cooling system?
this video may be true on the West Coast, but it is not true out east. I have a very similar set up in Tennessee and it can’t handle the humidity. Once the temperatures reach high 80s , my wave 2 at full blast can only maintain the outside temperature inside my van. My van is fully insulated.
It’s expensive, it’s a hassle to set up, looks like it takes too long to set up, those vented hose’s look unsightly. If they weather proofed it and you just had a single hose pumping cool air into the van through the window would be a better far better solution in my opinion. The noise generated from the unit would be on outside.
Overpriced.