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I have a 2024 GMC sierra 1500 with a 220 amp, in the truck bed it has a 400W 120v outlet (residential style) would it run in the truck bed ? While I’m driving ? Or is that not enough?
Update 9/8/23, used the A/C in my 130 sq ft boat, works perfectly. Nice and cool 65° consistently. Next will be my tent this winter using the heater. I purchased this unit with the 400w solar panel, tested it inside my 115° car. Brought the temp down to 90° in ONLY 5 minutes. Screen said it could run 11-14 hrs. I'm seriously impressed. Total game changer for tents and boats.
Thank you, HOBO, for providing such an honest review of the Wave 2 AC. My friend who also purchased the Wave 2, but she ended up returning it for the exact same reason you mentioned. The inability to charge the add-on battery separately from the main unit was a significant drawback. Carrying both the battery and the main head unit, totaling over 50 pounds, and having to connect them indoors to plug into an outlet made it impractical for outdoor use. Your video would have saved her the trouble if she had watched it earlier! Your insights are truly valuable for potential buyers like us. Keep up the great work!
I don't get these complaints. You can plug it directly into solar panels, or into a portable powerstation, and charge it that way. The only complaint here is that it's too heavy for your friend to lug somewhere to charge, but they make extension cords if you don't have solar or something to plug in to. It's completely practical for outdoor use.
I totally agree with Emma. I watched four tutorial videos about the product and this is the only one that mentioned the fact that the add-on battery cannot be charged separately from the main unit. I am happy I knew this before purchasing. As some of the people wrote: it is useful for outside use. But in my opinion, it is not useful for everyone. Let's assume that you work at an office in LA and cannot afford to rent an apartment there, so you decide to live in a van or in an RV. You plan to use the Wave 2 for cooling the van at night (8 hours on eco mode) and to take the battery with you to charge it at the office the next day using a wall ac outlet. That is impossible unfortunately. In addition, carrying both units into the office everyday would be ridiculous. Besides, using a power station will not solve the problem because charging the power station at office is more difficult because it weighs much more than the wave 2 and the add-on battery together.
Really amazing how much they have improved this product in just a year, and makes me really excited for what these are going to be in the future at the current rate of progress. Gamechangers for us in extremely cold/hot climates.
I agree that the product is much improved, but be aware that improvement may be nonlinear, with the first improvements being the nice 'low hanging fruit'. So the 'rate of progress' is likely to be a declining function, with smaller gains in future versions. I often wait for the second version of any product, but find that the wait for third versions often is not worth the opportunity cost.
Wow, this is progress! Next I'd love to see them make a drop in version to replace the roof mounted air conditioners in common use by most camper manufacturers.
Professor, this was a great review (as usual by you). I also appreciate your simple explanation of the two tubes going outside (of room or window or vehicle). I have seen many social media comments (including under videos about similar portable AC units) that perpetuate the misunderstanding of how the tubes are supposed to be used, with some videos even saying the tester recommends putting the inlet tube inside the van (or vehicle/space) to "recool the cooled air" etc.. Clearly they are wrong, and don't understand how the units work, while others don't like the idea of "bringing in hot outside air" to be used by the unit (e.g. when used in a van). I think your explanation was clear, succinct, and helpful, so I will share this video with others in the future when they seem confused by this issue.
Now let’s say in my van I have a mold that goes out the passenger window with only one vent whole if I just exhaust the hot air out only will it work fine or lose efficiency
You are the best hobo. You answered every question in ma head about this. This took days to create this content am sure. Welldone, one of the best content on RUclips for me. Pleased like crazy!
I like the waveII. For approximately $1500.00 I can get the heat pump and 2 batteries. I'm off the grid. I will increase my solar from 400w to 800w. I have three power stations. I don't depend on the grid for anything. I use a deep well with filters. I compost. I hunt, fish I grow a small garden, muscadine vines, apple, pear and plum trees. There's a pond full of perch fish. I digress. Great Program R p.s. On fast charge from 10% to100% in 1.6 hours. The Growatt 550 was worth money and it does what I want it to. Thanks again R
I bought this last summer. And it will cool a van 10-12 degrees. Because I know many come here for information, I will just say after experimenting with various setups, you just must use the unit as instructed. My attempts to not vent the air intake just resulted in drastically reduced performance. When set up according to instructions and vented properly with the exhaust hose insulated, this thing works like a charm…putting out 46 degree chilled air!!! I dislike the time to set it up, but love that I didn’t need to drill holes anywhere in my van.
Literally more than half of the complaints are folks not hooking it up correctly. Everyone thinks they know better and try to run one hose. It really does work well in an Insulated space when installed correctly.
Thanks HOBOTECH for this review. I am currently DIY converting a Ford Transit Passenger Van and planning on driving cross country while living in it. I bought the Wave 2 with battery through amazon and got the 600 discount plus 175.92 off from your code. I also add 4 year protection plan for 185. Thanks again HOBO!!!
my zero breeze died after 4 hr or so and now its gotta be sent back. told them to keep it and I want a refund. I just bought an eco flow from your link. love what you do
Since Prime Day I ordered this after your review. With the battery add on. I also got the BLUETTI AC300 B300 x2 setup for 220V. I would have done the EcoFlow Delta Pro setup but the BLUETTI deal was just a tad better. Then bought the Anker Everfrost 50L with 299wh battery for $665. Seemed like the most bang for the buck today. Total across the 3 systems saved was $2285. For that amount of savings I can now get a lot of solar panel. If you can't tell I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to get off grid. Love your product reviews, so many options had portable solar panels. I need rigid, already have a number of portable. Now to see if a deal can be had on rigid panels...
Well, you better really really really really really really want to go off grid or else work at a job you hate for the rest of your life to pay bills endlessly. 🐠
I really appreciate your thorough reviews. Always easy to understand, but always w/out being condescending. You're hitting the nail on the head. Keep up the good work!
My biggest gripe is when using with a small tent, where you need to leave the unit outside the tent. The thermostat is on the outside of the tent. So the ac/heat doesn’t kick on and off automatically when the tent gets to the desired temperature because the unit is outside the tent. They need to have a plug in thermometer that can be placed inside the tent. Which I am surprised they don’t since they give you the connection to use with one of the tubes to allow you to pipe the air from the unit outside to the inside. Which also isn’t long enough for what I want to use it for, it’s 1’ to short.
You would be much better off putting it inside so that it recirculates the tent air through the evaporator instead of the hotter air outside. Much more efficient that way.
@@Nigriff Manually, yes. You can manually turn it on or off as needed via your phone... But if you're in your tent, good chance you're trying to sleep in which case you want the device to turn on/off automatically.
I almost fell over in my chair when you said a couple of hundred bucks for a 1200 w/hr. battery, until I read your pin. About 800.00 is more like it. Great explanation and demo. You've got a great grasp on electrical and refrigeration theory. An amazing product - probably worth the nearly 2 grand.
GOSH, would I LOVE one of those things! I didnt know they existed until youre video and I thought they sure wouldnt really work. Exciting to have this on my wish list!
I tested my Wave 2 hooked up to one of my Delta Pro's in a "Shop/Shed" I just completed, 8X15 (120 sf) it was working great, set @ 68 at first it got there in a relatively short time raised the setting to 72 but then it kept going to below at around 70, TODAY I will be testing OUTDOORS on a gig with Temps to Reach 106, to hopefully help keep the Drummers Cool !
Let me know how that goes, I just got the delta 2 pro and I’m hoping the 320 watts of solar that came with it will suffice to operate this unit after charging all day etc. Plus I play outdoor gigs too , have a great show!
I have been impressed with ECO flow lately. When I first saw them I think they were crowdfunding and I could never tel if they were going to produce anything. But I like this idea. Might try to em see if tying it with a couple of panels might work well at my cabin in northern Minnesota. My folks are in their 90’s and I would like to have a way to cool their room off. Of course a mini split could work as well. As you say this is truly portable. That is why they can charge higher. Good on them. I hope hey make good money as they come up with these ideas.
great review, thank you. We use a single hose portable in our bedroom and I can confirm that insulating the hose makes a huge difference in the unit's cooling ability. Being dual hose with 2 closed loops, this unit will probably be quite efficient.
@@deniseboroughs1720I have a portable AC (single hose, AC power only so not portable like one of these, just room to room portable). Anyway, I insulated the hose by buying some aluminium exhaust fan ducting (the thin walled, very flexible type, not the semi rigid type). Its diameter is 3" more than the hose. I wrapped the hose in a cheap doona (I'm an Aussie... I think you call it a quilt or a comforter?). The really cheap ones, made of Dacron are best for this. I actually cut it so it wrapped neatly, and sewed it along the length so there were no gaps. I then taped the ends of the comforter "tube" to the ends of the hose (the hose was fully extended). The walls of the "comforter tube" are about an inch thick. Then, with considerable difficulty (swearing is optional but I found it satisfying if not particularly helpful) I slid the aluminium ducting over the whole thing. I then duct taped the aluminium ducting at the ends such that the tape goes from the outside of the ducting around the end and onto the inside of the hose at each end. It's crucial that the walls of the now insulated hose are airtight, so that when using the unit to heat the room, the cold air that flows through the hose to outside does not cause condensation in the insulation, mostly to avoid mould growth but also because a wet comforter is a bad insulator. Because the outer aluminium duct is slightly larger in diameter than the hose plus insulation, the hose still bends easily, and more importantly, it still shortens easily because the insulation still has room to bunch up. A shorter path for the air allows a better flow rate, and the scrunched up insulation is thicker so works even better. The insulation is superb... when the unit is on cooling mode, the duct feels barely warmer than if the unit were off. In heating mode I honestly can't feel any difference compared to when the unit is off. If you're not sure what I mean in any part of my instructions, just reply and I'll explain as best I can.
. @deniseboroughs1720 Just buy some 6” insulated flex duct (used for exhaust fans), BUT do NOT make it longer than the OEM hose or you will screw up the unit.
The question was answered @ around Min 29. Will still leave it here for everybody else 🙂 I wonder, if this unit is bought without the battery: Will it run on DC power (aside from Ecoflow-products)? I guess this is tricky. A Bluetty AC 200 max as an example has a 30 Amp DC output (13.5V), which in best case (neglecting losses over the power cables/connectors) can deliver 405W. Aside from that, straight DC power, from another battery bank, seems to be more efficient then converting battery DC to AC and then to the Wave2, as you've shown, too. However: If the battery unit and AC converter is in the same room, and the unit is used to heat, the losses from the AC conversions are additional heat, so not lost. If battery and inverter are somewhere else, and the Wave is supposed to cool, then the picture changes to less efficiency.
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I CAN'T FIND A PRICE ON ALL THAT YOU'VE SHOWN. I SUPPOSE THE SOLAR PANELS WOULD BE ADDITIONAL, CORRECT? ONE WOULD NEED I SUPPOSE MORE BATTERIES. ALSO, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE BY THE SUN? THANKS
Thanks for the discount of over $103! I have a 10 x 16 building in the mountains, so I’m going to mount it permanently and run it off of AC, I do have the Delta Pro and battery for my home. Thank you Professor!
very cool stuff. when I priced it at the site it was around $2000 for A/C and battery. About $1800 with your discount code including about $200 tax. Great video
Got mine! This will work great in my RV without having to run my generator all night. Almost $200 off with the discount code. Hobotech is the man! (So is Odin.)
The latent heat in the conditioned space is being removed as the air is moving across the evaporator coil which causes cool air being blown out the main vent. The latent heat that was removed from the conditioned space is then rejected from the condenser coil and exhausts outside. All refrigeration systems remove heat from a location and transfers that heat to another location.
Excellent review, as always. Outro was funny too. Hobo never disappoints! I learned alot in this video. Off-grid heating and cooling are 2 of my biggest concerns and I’m always looking to diversify. Thanks!
Wow Eco Flow hit this one out of the park. Yeah its pricey but look at what you are getting. Game changer for Floridians! Nice job EcoFlow great review Hobotech!
I live in Texas, and our grid cannot handle extreme Temps nor extreme colds, and hurricane season is on the horizon. I ordered it with the battery and thankfully can run on the solar panels I have. Let's see how this goes! If you're a praying person, keep us in prayer! ❤🎉🎉🎉😊
Great video as always. Probably going to use this for the front of my 40' skoolie build for heating and cooling that portion, and the solar mini split from EG4 for the back half. I love the versatility of this unit!
Well down the rabbit hole. 1 year warranty thats on unit as well as battery. Im on a boat, I purposely built a dc set up, components, while my friends went ecoflo solar generators. So i could get this run the A/C all night and still have my 12v/200ah battery regarge off of my 400 watts of solar. Thank you very good review.
Considering the stand alone unit. No battery. What cables come with it. Called support(India) , they said no cables. So how you supposed to run it. Well done review, very informative
Wonderful video! I am not completely clueless about Solar/Battery charging, but you really helped me understand SO much more!! THANK YOU! I am officially your latest subscriber! :)
I have been using it for a while, and I really like such a small portable air conditioner. But I also see the disadvantages of this product. 1. Because the battery can not be charged separately, it must be connected to the air conditioner to charge, which is obviously unreasonable. For example, when I use up the battery outdoors, I have to carry the air conditioner together when I get to a place where I can charge the battery. At the same time, my husband and I had planned to buy two batteries for alternating use, but this product cannot charge the batteries separately. 2. This product can only use the battery and energy storage provided by Ecoflow, and cannot use the energy storage battery limited at home. The air conditioning and battery connectors are clumsy and easy to lose, which also widens the whole machine
I'd rather there wasn't a battery in it at all, but I guess they couldn't use the "solar" word. Smaller, lighter and batteries could be swapped out. If I wasn't mobile and needed a portable heat pump I'd probably grab a $300 dollar roll around one at Walmart and use an inverter.
Can’t wait to see how this cools a small room in the summer. I’ve been using my Deltas to flatten the power draw curve on an old small 6000btu AC I have currently. I wonder if this is enough to cool that small room. What a time to be alive!
Thanks for these reviews. A couple of hints/things I figured out. If you are going to hook up two 200w solar panels (like 24v Cigs or others) run them in series if you want to max out at 400w. Also if you want to hook a 12v battery box to the Wave II, you can run it with a step up transformer like 12-24v or 12-48v the last being the fastest for charging. If a 24v battery box then they do make a 24-60v step up transformer. There are some losses associated with the transformer, but allows for faster charging.
Bravo Professor Hobo, a Wowzer of a unit! We currently have a typical rooftop AC, that is 11,500btu, so can run it on 15amp. But its loud! Plus boondocking, we'd need a genny(currently gas), so even more noise plus smell. Will have to rewatch this to make sure it fits what we need, cuz it is some serious coin.❤️🙋♀️🛻🇨🇦‼️
I can't wait to see people review these as a heater powered by solar in a Canadian winter. I'm also waiting to see if maybe next year they can make a 3rd version where they employ a double pipe in one. If they can do this, and it works well in a Canadian winter, they can take my money. I'll switch out my mini split in my 20x8x13 foot tiny home.
@@HOBOTECH what I mean to say is a double wall pipe like in propane fire style heater,(Dickenson p900), so you end up only needing one hole and one pipe. The company is always innovating, not sure if it's something they have already tried, and had adverse results?
Picked one up with the battery. Ran it down to cool my trailer from over 80 to 65 for almost 4 hours. used approx. 50% of the battery. recharged with bluetti ac200 max from AC plug quickly. Used almost 30% of the bluetti with less than 30 watts coming into the ac200max from solar. (Evening) So far pretty impressed. Already invested in the bluetti so the loss of wattage is a bummer but this is a better option than a mini split for my build. Would a cigarette 12vdc/10amp to solar chord make any difference in charging as opposed to using the AC port? There are 4 lights... cant stop saying it.
Works well enough, achieved 15 degree difference (which felt cool inside the square drop trailer-in the shade, the lowered humidity helped a lot too) in 95F and 80% humidity weather here in Florida. I was also running two small USB powered fans to circulate the cooler air. My main complain is not being able to mechanically/manually set the unit to external drainage. Every time the unit shuts down the drainage is reset to internal, which in turn shuts down the unit when really full, which happens a heck of a LOT here in Florida. The hoses, being proprietary sizes are also a PITA to hook up to anything commonly used in small trailers. The Wave 2 was outside the small square drop due to space issues, I also wish the company made a raincoat for the unit.....
Very tempting! Bought the original wave, but after the summer season so little to no use. Love the fact that this has heat too - could have already used it in the overland rig this year when it got chilly overnight.
Nice thorough review. Good point about insulating the hoses. In fact insulation is really important for the space being heated/cooled if you want a long runtime. A tent has virtually no insulation and a car with all its window sitting in the sun takes a *lot* of cooling. My Chevy Volt with its electric AC uses about 1500W just to maintain 74F when sitting in Florida sun. I wish their next “innovation” would be lower prices though. This is a nice unit but it is essentially a 5000btu Window AC with a few extra bells and whistles. You can get those dirt cheap (
In the US it's nothing special, in the UK though we can only get mini splits or single hose portable air conditioners. No window units (our windows often aren't compatible, opening like a door) and no dual hose portable ACs. Would I pay £1000 for that? No, but if they came down to £500 maybe by dropping the DC input and battery support that'd be great.
We full time in our Winnebago. Last summer instead of replacing the basement AC unit that didn't work and needed 50 amps to run I pulled it all out. Ditched it for an ultra efficient GE window unit that I shoved into the basement hole the old unit sat in. The old unit had two compressors however and I know on hotter days we are gonna need a little more than just that GE. This seems like a perfect option for us, especially knowing it will run off our 24v off grid battery. Now we just have to wait a couple years until we can find a used one online.. 😂
I agree with you! Could be a life saving appliance however-it would take me longer than a year to pay it off. A two year replacement warranty & I'm all in. Thanks for the review 👍🙏❣️
Awesome awesome awesome can't wait to get it it's a must-have. I just can't afford it for a while but what a great presentation awesome job sir as always.
Just found your channel and subscribed Professor Hobo. Clear and concise information like this is hard to come by. After looking at multiple options it seems this may be the one for me. It will be interesting to see if the unit can handle Aussie outback. Looking forward the next instalment about charging options.👍
Was looking forward to this review. The specs do sound promising. There are a few observations I made though: 1) clearly the build in thermometer does not give a accurate picture of room temperature. A wired and/or wireless temperature probe would increase real life cooling or heating. Also if the unit is placed outside, it would never know the actual inside temperature. So a movable probe is needed. 2) the add-on battery is $200 ? For 1000watt? That’s a super competitive price. Let’s hope they don’t notice this. 👍 3) 12v external battery charging. You are correct that a cigarette lighter socket inside a vehicle is probably wired and fused for 10amp. However, you can buy cigarette lighter sockets with a 10’ lead and fused for 30amp. That would give you 360watt of input. Or you can wire and fuse a xt60 directly to a battery or DC distribution panel at 40amp and get 480watt (or 408watt limit) input so you can run this unit via house bank. This is needed to truly run it evenings and nights anyway. 4) the big question is, what chemistry is the internal battery? And what are the life cycles? And does the unit allow pass thru operation or will the internal battery always be cycled ? 5) could use smart programming. I might want it to go to fan mode 2 hours after going to bed but get it back to heating/cooling an hour before I get up. This could be done via firmware update. 6) air intake/exhaust inside of room. Would be nice if this could also be directed with a hose. In a camper van we might want to shove this unit into a back corner due to space/design limitations. In that case we need to find a way to get the hot/cold air into the living space. This might require a stronger fan to move the air further. Overall, it’s seems like a solid unit. $1200 is a pretty penny though. It’s not intended for those with a tight budget. I can always hack a cheaper system, but it’s never going to come in such a neat package. My camper van has 400amp hours of 12v lithium batteries. I’ll be able to run this just fine.
Excellent review, as always...and much appreciated. It also looks like a much better product than their initial offering, especially where charging speed is concerned. What I don't like is that these two items, the battery and heater-A/C unit, might as well be joined together, because they're more or less useless without both of them. The only exception is if you have bought into the larger Ecoflow power stations, and are willing to dedicate one to running this mini-split. I'm sure they have their reasons for not letting you run the unit directly from solar, or charge the (basically mandatory) battery without it being connected to the unit. The way they've designed this, the only real value in the two being separate is you move them around a lot more easily. At this price point, I think I'll pass.
It’s a great unit for a small cabin that has 120VAC, you forgot that some people aren’t interested in batteries or solar to have A/C😊 The charging system is inside the unit so that’s why the battery is attached to recharge it.
@@melissasmess2773 - If you have a cabin, meaning a small stationary deployment, the EG4 Hybrid AC/DC Solar mini split is a dramatically better solution, for more or less the same price as just the base Ecoflow Wave 2 unit. If you're paying for the battery as well, the EF Wave 2 is far more expensive and delivers half as much heating and cooling capacity. It's an absolute no-brainer for a stationary setup, especially if you might add solar at a later date. The EF Wave 2 is only going to make sense in a small number of use cases, and a cabin isn't one of the, unless maybe you're worried about theft and want the heat/air to be mobile.
This is HUGE!!! Really looking into the possibility of getting the AC and an ecoflow or bluetti power station to pair with it, instead of getting the battery seperate. It comes to about the same price if you invest in the power station instead of the battery, and the versatility is what draws me in for that. I could also use the power station in a pinch for other things, but living in new mexico it would probably end up dedicated to the AC. Thanks so much for posting this review! so helpful!!
Definitely buy an Eco Flow Delta series if you can. I have the River Pro but I want the larger Delta series soon! It's so nice to have a backup power system!
I’m sorry if you covered this and I misunderstood. Will it allow pass through solar charging while running on eco mode and allow to run 24/7 given you have 400 watts of power? Basically my question is: can I keep the cool/heat on all day by solar power?
You should look at doing a step by step guide (video) of each of the ecoflow products and their main differences. I’m still really fuzzy on which is which and which is right for me.
28:57 - Running off of pure solar without some sort of battery buffer would be potentially dangerous for the condenser. Clouds or whatever blocking the solar panel would cause potential significant changes in power that could turn the condenser on and off and starve the condenser of the consistent power required.
@@randybobandy9828 Hope you enjoy the shorter lifespan of your unit. My key statement was “No battery”. A charged battery would protect the unit. The inconsistent power supply will starve the system of required power. This would lead to increased strain on the condenser, motor and fan, and control circuitry. Simple research will show tell you the same.
@@zbart2000 dc powered devices have a voltage range set limit, if the voltage drops below that set limit it will simply turn off. It's not hard to understand.
I will be running this with my Delta 2 and I would rather get another Delta 2 than this Wave battery since it's very expensive. For a couple of hundred more a Delt 2 will add more flexibility.
Thank you HT, I'm glad I found your videos. I'm gearing up to go completely off-grid and I appreciate your advice on various products. Very happy to be a new subscriber.
Very interesting. First thing I thought about was creating a micro climate in the event of some type of emergency. Seems like your next video will address my question because I wasn't sure how you would connect it from a battery system directly - whichever system people might have on hand from a single 100ah to the larger array. Thanks for the video!!
The competition should worry. This unit is literally a game changer. One aspect that I don't see mentioned enough is the fact that you can add or delete the unit from your rig depending on seasonal requirements.
I believe this is the most comprehensive review of any product I have ever seen on RUclips. Unfortunately they may have seen you compliment the $200 battery price so they raised it to $700 😢. So with a solar input no charge controller is required?!? It self regulates battery charge? Are their portable power stations the same?
When heating wouldn't the conversion loss be zero if the battery was in the same room as the Wave? As the 45 watts needed for conversion would lost as heat? So though minimal the unit would be more 45w more effective on AC.
If you take the suction from inside the room, you are heating warmer air or cooling cooler air which makes it operate much faster. Depending on the room, it will draw a suction. It requires the unit be inside but is likely to stretch the battery life significantly and allow running on ECO mode more keeping it easier to keep charged with solar. Saw this from a different review.
Great review! Answered all my questions. I have been looking at adding a mini split to my off grid garage to off set the cost of heating with pellets(price has gone up a lot in two years) I already run a 5k btu window air so i will be replacing it with this unit and be getting year round benefits...the cost is substantial but i wont have any install costs like i would with a permanent mini so i feel this is a good value for me.
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I have a 2024 GMC sierra 1500 with a 220 amp, in the truck bed it has a 400W 120v outlet (residential style) would it run in the truck bed ? While I’m driving ? Or is that not enough?
Update 9/8/23, used the A/C in my 130 sq ft boat, works perfectly. Nice and cool 65° consistently. Next will be my tent this winter using the heater. I purchased this unit with the 400w solar panel, tested it inside my 115° car. Brought the temp down to 90° in ONLY 5 minutes. Screen said it could run 11-14 hrs. I'm seriously impressed. Total game changer for tents and boats.
I'd like to use it in my little 800 sq ft house.
11-14 hours, if that's true, then that is awesome
Do you just connect the solar panel directly into the unit? No solar controller or anything needed?
@smoovlatino yes,exactly plug solar panel directly into the unit which Hobotech pointed out in this video. Nothing extra needed.
Did you put the exhaust out the window ? Or how did that work?
Thank you, HOBO, for providing such an honest review of the Wave 2 AC. My friend who also purchased the Wave 2, but she ended up returning it for the exact same reason you mentioned. The inability to charge the add-on battery separately from the main unit was a significant drawback. Carrying both the battery and the main head unit, totaling over 50 pounds, and having to connect them indoors to plug into an outlet made it impractical for outdoor use. Your video would have saved her the trouble if she had watched it earlier! Your insights are truly valuable for potential buyers like us. Keep up the great work!
So what , basically you’d need to be without AC while you recharge the battery ?
What about getting a cord extension?
I don't get these complaints. You can plug it directly into solar panels, or into a portable powerstation, and charge it that way. The only complaint here is that it's too heavy for your friend to lug somewhere to charge, but they make extension cords if you don't have solar or something to plug in to. It's completely practical for outdoor use.
I totally agree with Emma. I watched four tutorial videos about the product and this is the only one that mentioned the fact that the add-on battery cannot be charged separately from the main unit. I am happy I knew this before purchasing. As some of the people wrote: it is useful for outside use. But in my opinion, it is not useful for everyone. Let's assume that you work at an office in LA and cannot afford to rent an apartment there, so you decide to live in a van or in an RV. You plan to use the Wave 2 for cooling the van at night (8 hours on eco mode) and to take the battery with you to charge it at the office the next day using a wall ac outlet. That is impossible unfortunately. In addition, carrying both units into the office everyday would be ridiculous. Besides, using a power station will not solve the problem because charging the power station at office is more difficult because it weighs much more than the wave 2 and the add-on battery together.
Really amazing how much they have improved this product in just a year, and makes me really excited for what these are going to be in the future at the current rate of progress. Gamechangers for us in extremely cold/hot climates.
The heat pump operation and quieter fan made me buy one minutes ago, perfect for tiny house in mountains.😊
I agree that the product is much improved, but be aware that improvement may be nonlinear, with the first improvements being the nice 'low hanging fruit'. So the 'rate of progress' is likely to be a declining function, with smaller gains in future versions. I often wait for the second version of any product, but find that the wait for third versions often is not worth the opportunity cost.
I'm really glad you explained the two loop system. Lots of people are confused about that.
I still am!
Wow, this is progress!
Next I'd love to see them make a drop in version to replace the roof mounted air conditioners in common use by most camper manufacturers.
Now a 13500 BTU DC version of this roof mount would be a hot seller. Could plug your roof solar directly into it.
I don't care what they say! This was the best video and product in all of 2023 (except for special HoboCop episode). Thumbs up anyone?
Professor, this was a great review (as usual by you). I also appreciate your simple explanation of the two tubes going outside (of room or window or vehicle). I have seen many social media comments (including under videos about similar portable AC units) that perpetuate the misunderstanding of how the tubes are supposed to be used, with some videos even saying the tester recommends putting the inlet tube inside the van (or vehicle/space) to "recool the cooled air" etc.. Clearly they are wrong, and don't understand how the units work, while others don't like the idea of "bringing in hot outside air" to be used by the unit (e.g. when used in a van). I think your explanation was clear, succinct, and helpful, so I will share this video with others in the future when they seem confused by this issue.
Now let’s say in my van I have a mold that goes out the passenger window with only one vent whole if I just exhaust the hot air out only will it work fine or lose efficiency
In other words is it 100% necessary to vent both exhaust outside
You are the best hobo. You answered every question in ma head about this. This took days to create this content am sure. Welldone, one of the best content on RUclips for me. Pleased like crazy!
It's nice but it's a grand, without and solar stuff.
I like the waveII. For approximately $1500.00 I can get the heat pump and 2 batteries. I'm off the grid. I will increase my solar from 400w to 800w.
I have three power stations. I don't depend on the grid for anything.
I use a deep well with filters. I compost. I hunt, fish I grow a small garden, muscadine vines, apple, pear and plum trees. There's a pond full of perch fish. I digress.
Great Program
R
p.s.
On fast charge from 10% to100% in 1.6 hours. The Growatt 550 was worth money and it does what I want it to.
Thanks again
R
I bought this last summer. And it will cool a van 10-12 degrees. Because I know many come here for information, I will just say after experimenting with various setups, you just must use the unit as instructed. My attempts to not vent the air intake just resulted in drastically reduced performance. When set up according to instructions and vented properly with the exhaust hose insulated, this thing works like a charm…putting out 46 degree chilled air!!! I dislike the time to set it up, but love that I didn’t need to drill holes anywhere in my van.
Literally more than half of the complaints are folks not hooking it up correctly. Everyone thinks they know better and try to run one hose. It really does work well in an Insulated space when installed correctly.
The most comprehensive and well-done review I've ever seen; taking lots of different scenarios into account. Absolutely awesome. Thank you!
Thanks HOBOTECH for this review. I am currently DIY converting a Ford Transit Passenger Van and planning on driving cross country while living in it. I bought the Wave 2 with battery through amazon and got the 600 discount plus 175.92 off from your code. I also add 4 year protection plan for 185. Thanks again HOBO!!!
my zero breeze died after 4 hr or so and now its gotta be sent back. told them to keep it and I want a refund. I just bought an eco flow from your link. love what you do
Since Prime Day I ordered this after your review. With the battery add on. I also got the BLUETTI AC300 B300 x2 setup for 220V. I would have done the EcoFlow Delta Pro setup but the BLUETTI deal was just a tad better. Then bought the Anker Everfrost 50L with 299wh battery for $665. Seemed like the most bang for the buck today. Total across the 3 systems saved was $2285. For that amount of savings I can now get a lot of solar panel.
If you can't tell I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want to get off grid. Love your product reviews, so many options had portable solar panels. I need rigid, already have a number of portable. Now to see if a deal can be had on rigid panels...
Well, you better really really really really really really want to go off grid or else work at a job you hate for the rest of your life to pay bills endlessly. 🐠
I figured some of the savings served me better in the materials than in the bank. And yep, work sucks@@ZxAMobile
I really appreciate your thorough reviews. Always easy to understand, but always w/out being condescending. You're hitting the nail on the head. Keep up the good work!
Every other reviewer seems to skip the heat mode. Thanks for always being thorough.
This could be a great option for tiny home living.
Just bought one for my pump house which I am making into my tiny mountain home.
We ordered EF wave 2 and used your code,we saved almost $130
Thank you!😊
I wonder how great the wave 3 will be. This is all brand new tech and I'm really impressed
My biggest gripe is when using with a small tent, where you need to leave the unit outside the tent. The thermostat is on the outside of the tent. So the ac/heat doesn’t kick on and off automatically when the tent gets to the desired temperature because the unit is outside the tent. They need to have a plug in thermometer that can be placed inside the tent. Which I am surprised they don’t since they give you the connection to use with one of the tubes to allow you to pipe the air from the unit outside to the inside. Which also isn’t long enough for what I want to use it for, it’s 1’ to short.
You would be much better off putting it inside so that it recirculates the tent air through the evaporator instead of the hotter air outside. Much more efficient that way.
Can't you use the app on your phone to control it?
Shit even a small tent ild have it in there an my legs against the side of it a make it happen. In a single person ment if I needed to
@@Nigriff Manually, yes. You can manually turn it on or off as needed via your phone... But if you're in your tent, good chance you're trying to sleep in which case you want the device to turn on/off automatically.
You are definitely the best reviewer. Easily my new favourite go to to get my tech fix
As a new member of the solar generator world, I find your videos very informative and fun to watch. Looking forward to the next chapter.
I almost fell over in my chair when you said a couple of hundred bucks for a 1200 w/hr. battery, until I read your pin. About 800.00 is more like it. Great explanation and demo. You've got a great grasp on electrical and refrigeration theory. An amazing product - probably worth the nearly 2 grand.
$1471 with my code.
@@HOBOTECH A month later, now $700 for the battery, with your code, must be China messing with the battery cost... :(
GOSH, would I LOVE one of those things! I didnt know they existed until youre video and I thought they sure wouldnt really work. Exciting to have this on my wish list!
I tested my Wave 2 hooked up to one of my Delta Pro's in a "Shop/Shed" I just completed, 8X15 (120 sf) it was working great, set @ 68 at first it got there in a relatively short time raised the setting to 72 but then it kept going to below at around 70, TODAY I will be testing OUTDOORS on a gig with Temps to Reach 106, to hopefully help keep the Drummers Cool !
Let me know how that goes, I just got the delta 2 pro and I’m hoping the 320 watts of solar that came with it will suffice to operate this unit after charging all day etc.
Plus I play outdoor gigs too , have a great show!
I have been impressed with ECO flow lately. When I first saw them I think they were crowdfunding and I could never tel if they were going to produce anything. But I like this idea. Might try to em see if tying it with a couple of panels might work well at my cabin in northern Minnesota. My folks are in their 90’s and I would like to have a way to cool their room off. Of course a mini split could work as well. As you say this is truly portable. That is why they can charge higher. Good on them. I hope hey make good money as they come up with these ideas.
As usual, you answered all the questions that many other half ass reviews don't. Thank you!
great review, thank you. We use a single hose portable in our bedroom and I can confirm that insulating the hose makes a huge difference in the unit's cooling ability. Being dual hose with 2 closed loops, this unit will probably be quite efficient.
How do you insulate the hose?
@@deniseboroughs1720I have a portable AC (single hose, AC power only so not portable like one of these, just room to room portable). Anyway, I insulated the hose by buying some aluminium exhaust fan ducting (the thin walled, very flexible type, not the semi rigid type). Its diameter is 3" more than the hose. I wrapped the hose in a cheap doona (I'm an Aussie... I think you call it a quilt or a comforter?). The really cheap ones, made of Dacron are best for this.
I actually cut it so it wrapped neatly, and sewed it along the length so there were no gaps. I then taped the ends of the comforter "tube" to the ends of the hose (the hose was fully extended). The walls of the "comforter tube" are about an inch thick.
Then, with considerable difficulty (swearing is optional but I found it satisfying if not particularly helpful) I slid the aluminium ducting over the whole thing. I then duct taped the aluminium ducting at the ends such that the tape goes from the outside of the ducting around the end and onto the inside of the hose at each end. It's crucial that the walls of the now insulated hose are airtight, so that when using the unit to heat the room, the cold air that flows through the hose to outside does not cause condensation in the insulation, mostly to avoid mould growth but also because a wet comforter is a bad insulator.
Because the outer aluminium duct is slightly larger in diameter than the hose plus insulation, the hose still bends easily, and more importantly, it still shortens easily because the insulation still has room to bunch up. A shorter path for the air allows a better flow rate, and the scrunched up insulation is thicker so works even better.
The insulation is superb... when the unit is on cooling mode, the duct feels barely warmer than if the unit were off. In heating mode I honestly can't feel any difference compared to when the unit is off.
If you're not sure what I mean in any part of my instructions, just reply and I'll explain as best I can.
. @deniseboroughs1720 Just buy some 6” insulated flex duct (used for exhaust fans), BUT do NOT make it longer than the OEM hose or you will screw up the unit.
"There are four lights" - classic! Awesome review. Lots of details. Thanks for sharing
Excellent summary! This is so worth the money!
The question was answered @ around Min 29. Will still leave it here for everybody else 🙂
I wonder, if this unit is bought without the battery: Will it run on DC power (aside from Ecoflow-products)? I guess this is tricky. A Bluetty AC 200 max as an example has a 30 Amp DC output (13.5V), which in best case (neglecting losses over the power cables/connectors) can deliver 405W. Aside from that, straight DC power, from another battery bank, seems to be more efficient then converting battery DC to AC and then to the Wave2, as you've shown, too. However: If the battery unit and AC converter is in the same room, and the unit is used to heat, the losses from the AC conversions are additional heat, so not lost. If battery and inverter are somewhere else, and the Wave is supposed to cool, then the picture changes to less efficiency.
This was also answered in the review...
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I CAN'T FIND A PRICE ON ALL THAT YOU'VE SHOWN. I SUPPOSE THE SOLAR PANELS WOULD BE ADDITIONAL, CORRECT? ONE WOULD NEED I SUPPOSE MORE BATTERIES. ALSO, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHARGE BY THE SUN? THANKS
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Thanks for the discount of over $103! I have a 10 x 16 building in the mountains, so I’m going to mount it permanently and run it off of AC, I do have the Delta Pro and battery for my home. Thank you Professor!
Tell me how many lights do you see... 4 lights hahahahahaha love it
very cool stuff. when I priced it at the site it was around $2000 for A/C and battery. About $1800 with your discount code including about $200 tax. Great video
I made it clear the price they gave me was wrong and that prices go up over time. To get the best deal subscribe and buy when it launches.
It's about time we got some good mini-AC technology. Hopefully with battery improvements, things will only get better.
This is not the first video of yours I've watched but this one earned you a subscribe! Wonderfully done
Got mine! This will work great in my RV without having to run my generator all night. Almost $200 off with the discount code. Hobotech is the man! (So is Odin.)
The latent heat in the conditioned space is being removed as the air is moving across the evaporator coil which causes cool air being blown out the main vent. The latent heat that was removed from the conditioned space is then rejected from the condenser coil and exhausts outside. All refrigeration systems remove heat from a location and transfers that heat to another location.
I love how every photo of this on their site doesn't show the intake and output hoses, they just show a nice clean standalone unit.
Lol look again friend they do have a picture of the hoses
Just as your live stream came to an end I got a notification from EcoFlow they are taking $600 off for the first 1800 customers
It’s cheaper using his discount code and Amazon link, saved an additional $103!
Excellent review, as always. Outro was funny too. Hobo never disappoints! I learned alot in this video. Off-grid heating and cooling are 2 of my biggest concerns and I’m always looking to diversify. Thanks!
Thanks!
I can see this being amazing for RV travel since AC is always such a power hog. I would say it's well worth the price
I rest my case.
Awesome review. Good tech and performance. Typing this from the floor. Have not yet gotten back up after I saw the price.
Wow Eco Flow hit this one out of the park. Yeah its pricey but look at what you are getting. Game changer for Floridians! Nice job EcoFlow great review Hobotech!
I live in Texas, and our grid cannot handle extreme Temps nor extreme colds, and hurricane season is on the horizon. I ordered it with the battery and thankfully can run on the solar panels I have. Let's see how this goes! If you're a praying person, keep us in prayer! ❤🎉🎉🎉😊
@@florindagonzalez5700I pray too living in the high desert of far west Texas and having to rely on Rio Grande Electric Coop.🙏
I did purchase this and it worked wonderfully in my 31 ft class Cbesroom. I closed the accordion door between bedroom and main coach area. 🎉
Great video as always. Probably going to use this for the front of my 40' skoolie build for heating and cooling that portion, and the solar mini split from EG4 for the back half. I love the versatility of this unit!
Well down the rabbit hole. 1 year warranty thats on unit as well as battery.
Im on a boat, I purposely built a dc set up, components, while my friends went ecoflo solar generators.
So i could get this run the A/C all night and still have my 12v/200ah battery regarge off of my 400 watts of solar. Thank you very good review.
@@sailingmsmalachite1503 I'm a sailboat.
Why can't use on a sail boat? Thank you
Considering the stand alone unit. No battery. What cables come with it. Called support(India) , they said no cables. So how you supposed to run it. Well done review, very informative
Thanks!
Me in Canada…
When Hobotech said it was 41 degrees in the room, my first instinct was to expect him to turn on the cooling feature. :-P
@@aaronwilcott4561a lot of husky people feel that way
Wonderful video! I am not completely clueless about Solar/Battery charging, but you really helped me understand SO much more!! THANK YOU! I am officially your latest subscriber! :)
Loved your very comprehensive review.
Nice improvements from Ecoflow. Won't purchase it because it's Lithium-ion.
COME ON ECOFLOW !
Then use a LFP Delta battery.
8x20 tiny house this would work awesome. Great video
Yes, but so would a $200 window a/c unit
Really impressed with the advances Eco Flow has made with this unit.
This is a REAL and comprehensive review brotha thanks!!
Edit: so if you dont buy the battery you gey a 1600 dollar fan??? What?
I have been using it for a while, and I really like such a small portable air conditioner. But I also see the disadvantages of this product. 1. Because the battery can not be charged separately, it must be connected to the air conditioner to charge, which is obviously unreasonable. For example, when I use up the battery outdoors, I have to carry the air conditioner together when I get to a place where I can charge the battery. At the same time, my husband and I had planned to buy two batteries for alternating use, but this product cannot charge the batteries separately. 2. This product can only use the battery and energy storage provided by Ecoflow, and cannot use the energy storage battery limited at home. The air conditioning and battery connectors are clumsy and easy to lose, which also widens the whole machine
I'd rather there wasn't a battery in it at all, but I guess they couldn't use the "solar" word. Smaller, lighter and batteries could be swapped out. If I wasn't mobile and needed a portable heat pump I'd probably grab a $300 dollar roll around one at Walmart and use an inverter.
@@tweedeldee8122 You can buy it without a battery, I did.
You would be better off using one of the EcoFlow solar batteries which charge by themselves and not buy the add on battery for the unit.
@@melissasmess2773 The battery is built in. I don't see any option for one with no built in battery.
Thanks for explaining that
Can’t wait to see how this cools a small room in the summer. I’ve been using my Deltas to flatten the power draw curve on an old small 6000btu AC I have currently. I wonder if this is enough to cool that small room. What a time to be alive!
Let me know how it works out. I've been thinking of doing the same if this is capable enough.
Ya keep us posted , I’m curious too.
Thanks for these reviews. A couple of hints/things I figured out. If you are going to hook up two 200w solar panels (like 24v Cigs or others) run them in series if you want to max out at 400w. Also if you want to hook a 12v battery box to the Wave II, you can run it with a step up transformer like 12-24v or 12-48v the last being the fastest for charging. If a 24v battery box then they do make a 24-60v step up transformer. There are some losses associated with the transformer, but allows for faster charging.
Bravo Professor Hobo, a Wowzer of a unit! We currently have a typical rooftop AC, that is 11,500btu, so can run it on 15amp. But its loud! Plus boondocking, we'd need a genny(currently gas), so even more noise plus smell. Will have to rewatch this to make sure it fits what we need, cuz it is some serious coin.❤️🙋♀️🛻🇨🇦‼️
I can't wait to see people review these as a heater powered by solar in a Canadian winter.
I'm also waiting to see if maybe next year they can make a 3rd version where they employ a double pipe in one. If they can do this, and it works well in a Canadian winter, they can take my money. I'll switch out my mini split in my 20x8x13 foot tiny home.
It already has two pipes for exhaust.
@@HOBOTECH what I mean to say is a double wall pipe like in propane fire style heater,(Dickenson p900), so you end up only needing one hole and one pipe.
The company is always innovating, not sure if it's something they have already tried, and had adverse results?
Picked one up with the battery. Ran it down to cool my trailer from over 80 to 65 for almost 4 hours. used approx. 50% of the battery. recharged with bluetti ac200 max from AC plug quickly. Used almost 30% of the bluetti with less than 30 watts coming into the ac200max from solar. (Evening)
So far pretty impressed. Already invested in the bluetti so the loss of wattage is a bummer but this is a better option than a mini split for my build.
Would a cigarette 12vdc/10amp to solar chord make any difference in charging as opposed to using the AC port?
There are 4 lights... cant stop saying it.
Works well enough, achieved 15 degree difference (which felt cool inside the square drop trailer-in the shade, the lowered humidity helped a lot too) in 95F and 80% humidity weather here in Florida. I was also running two small USB powered fans to circulate the cooler air. My main complain is not being able to mechanically/manually set the unit to external drainage. Every time the unit shuts down the drainage is reset to internal, which in turn shuts down the unit when really full, which happens a heck of a LOT here in Florida. The hoses, being proprietary sizes are also a PITA to hook up to anything commonly used in small trailers. The Wave 2 was outside the small square drop due to space issues, I also wish the company made a raincoat for the unit.....
Very tempting! Bought the original wave, but after the summer season so little to no use. Love the fact that this has heat too - could have already used it in the overland rig this year when it got chilly overnight.
I am weak - I ordered the Wave2…. But excited to use it regardless of weather!
Now I should sell the original Wave unit.
This is perfect for me working from my workshop shed. Thank you for the in depth review!
Your reviews are VERY detailed. Thanks for such great information
Love you brother!!! Thanks for sharing your experience and expertise-which allows us to collect as much information as we can!
Nice thorough review. Good point about insulating the hoses. In fact insulation is really important for the space being heated/cooled if you want a long runtime. A tent has virtually no insulation and a car with all its window sitting in the sun takes a *lot* of cooling. My Chevy Volt with its electric AC uses about 1500W just to maintain 74F when sitting in Florida sun.
I wish their next “innovation” would be lower prices though. This is a nice unit but it is essentially a 5000btu Window AC with a few extra bells and whistles. You can get those dirt cheap (
Can you share a link or product name for some 600w DC units you mentioned?
Link?
In the US it's nothing special, in the UK though we can only get mini splits or single hose portable air conditioners. No window units (our windows often aren't compatible, opening like a door) and no dual hose portable ACs. Would I pay £1000 for that? No, but if they came down to £500 maybe by dropping the DC input and battery support that'd be great.
We full time in our Winnebago. Last summer instead of replacing the basement AC unit that didn't work and needed 50 amps to run I pulled it all out. Ditched it for an ultra efficient GE window unit that I shoved into the basement hole the old unit sat in. The old unit had two compressors however and I know on hotter days we are gonna need a little more than just that GE. This seems like a perfect option for us, especially knowing it will run off our 24v off grid battery. Now we just have to wait a couple years until we can find a used one online.. 😂
Will you be doing any other heat pump reviews or is this the only kid on the block?
Thank Hobotech!
I want one for my van. great video and review !!
I agree with you! Could be a life saving appliance however-it would take me longer than a year to pay it off. A two year replacement warranty & I'm all in. Thanks for the review 👍🙏❣️
If you can't buy it with cash you shouldn't buy it
Awesome awesome awesome can't wait to get it it's a must-have. I just can't afford it for a while but what a great presentation awesome job sir as always.
This seems like an extremely well thought out update. Great review!
Thank you so much for this review. And a special thank you for the four lights clip! I love that scene!!
Just found your channel and subscribed Professor Hobo.
Clear and concise information like this is hard to come by.
After looking at multiple options it seems this may be the one for me.
It will be interesting to see if the unit can handle Aussie outback.
Looking forward the next instalment about charging options.👍
Was looking forward to this review. The specs do sound promising.
There are a few observations I made though:
1) clearly the build in thermometer does not give a accurate picture of room temperature. A wired and/or wireless temperature probe would increase real life cooling or heating. Also if the unit is placed outside, it would never know the actual inside temperature. So a movable probe is needed.
2) the add-on battery is $200 ? For 1000watt? That’s a super competitive price. Let’s hope they don’t notice this. 👍
3) 12v external battery charging. You are correct that a cigarette lighter socket inside a vehicle is probably wired and fused for 10amp. However, you can buy cigarette lighter sockets with a 10’ lead and fused for 30amp. That would give you 360watt of input. Or you can wire and fuse a xt60 directly to a battery or DC distribution panel at 40amp and get 480watt (or 408watt limit) input so you can run this unit via house bank. This is needed to truly run it evenings and nights anyway.
4) the big question is, what chemistry is the internal battery? And what are the life cycles? And does the unit allow pass thru operation or will the internal battery always be cycled ?
5) could use smart programming. I might want it to go to fan mode 2 hours after going to bed but get it back to heating/cooling an hour before I get up. This could be done via firmware update.
6) air intake/exhaust inside of room. Would be nice if this could also be directed with a hose. In a camper van we might want to shove this unit into a back corner due to space/design limitations. In that case we need to find a way to get the hot/cold air into the living space. This might require a stronger fan to move the air further.
Overall, it’s seems like a solid unit. $1200 is a pretty penny though. It’s not intended for those with a tight budget. I can always hack a cheaper system, but it’s never going to come in such a neat package. My camper van has 400amp hours of 12v lithium batteries. I’ll be able to run this just fine.
Excellent review, as always...and much appreciated. It also looks like a much better product than their initial offering, especially where charging speed is concerned. What I don't like is that these two items, the battery and heater-A/C unit, might as well be joined together, because they're more or less useless without both of them. The only exception is if you have bought into the larger Ecoflow power stations, and are willing to dedicate one to running this mini-split. I'm sure they have their reasons for not letting you run the unit directly from solar, or charge the (basically mandatory) battery without it being connected to the unit. The way they've designed this, the only real value in the two being separate is you move them around a lot more easily. At this price point, I think I'll pass.
It’s a great unit for a small cabin that has 120VAC, you forgot that some people aren’t interested in batteries or solar to have A/C😊
The charging system is inside the unit so that’s why the battery is attached to recharge it.
@@melissasmess2773 - If you have a cabin, meaning a small stationary deployment, the EG4 Hybrid AC/DC Solar mini split is a dramatically better solution, for more or less the same price as just the base Ecoflow Wave 2 unit. If you're paying for the battery as well, the EF Wave 2 is far more expensive and delivers half as much heating and cooling capacity. It's an absolute no-brainer for a stationary setup, especially if you might add solar at a later date. The EF Wave 2 is only going to make sense in a small number of use cases, and a cabin isn't one of the, unless maybe you're worried about theft and want the heat/air to be mobile.
💡💡💡💡Four Lights! Tom, you did not disappoint!
This is HUGE!!! Really looking into the possibility of getting the AC and an ecoflow or bluetti power station to pair with it, instead of getting the battery seperate. It comes to about the same price if you invest in the power station instead of the battery, and the versatility is what draws me in for that. I could also use the power station in a pinch for other things, but living in new mexico it would probably end up dedicated to the AC. Thanks so much for posting this review! so helpful!!
Definitely buy an Eco Flow Delta series if you can. I have the River Pro but I want the larger Delta series soon! It's so nice to have a backup power system!
I have 2 bluetti's. This ac unit looks like what I've been waiting for. My 700 Watts can't run an 8000 BTU very long at all.
Bought it just now and used your code. Good video. I'll come back with my review comment once it arrives.
I’m sorry if you covered this and I misunderstood. Will it allow pass through solar charging while running on eco mode and allow to run 24/7 given you have 400 watts of power? Basically my question is: can I keep the cool/heat on all day by solar power?
You should look at doing a step by step guide (video) of each of the ecoflow products and their main differences. I’m still really fuzzy on which is which and which is right for me.
28:57 - Running off of pure solar without some sort of battery buffer would be potentially dangerous for the condenser. Clouds or whatever blocking the solar panel would cause potential significant changes in power that could turn the condenser on and off and starve the condenser of the consistent power required.
Wrong... It's inverter based so it simply would ramp down the compressor speed
@@randybobandy9828 Hope you enjoy the shorter lifespan of your unit.
My key statement was “No battery”. A charged battery would protect the unit. The inconsistent power supply will starve the system of required power. This would lead to increased strain on the condenser, motor and fan, and control circuitry.
Simple research will show tell you the same.
@@zbart2000 dc powered devices have a voltage range set limit, if the voltage drops below that set limit it will simply turn off. It's not hard to understand.
Fantastic Video, Wish I'd have waited and not gotten the previous one.
I will be running this with my Delta 2 and I would rather get another Delta 2 than this Wave battery since it's very expensive. For a couple of hundred more a Delt 2 will add more flexibility.
Thank you HT, I'm glad I found your videos. I'm gearing up to go completely off-grid and I appreciate your advice on various products. Very happy to be a new subscriber.
Very interesting. First thing I thought about was creating a micro climate in the event of some type of emergency. Seems like your next video will address my question because I wasn't sure how you would connect it from a battery system directly - whichever system people might have on hand from a single 100ah to the larger array. Thanks for the video!!
You can’t connect it directly to DC but you can charge the battery with DC
I am now rethinking the mini split for a tiny house, nice review.
The competition should worry. This unit is literally a game changer. One aspect that I don't see mentioned enough is the fact that you can add or delete the unit from your rig depending on seasonal requirements.
I believe this is the most comprehensive review of any product I have ever seen on RUclips. Unfortunately they may have seen you compliment the $200 battery price so they raised it to $700 😢. So with a solar input no charge controller is required?!? It self regulates battery charge? Are their portable power stations the same?
That A/C unit looks like a modern version of K-9 from Dr. Who.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....
Thanks for this rigorous fully explained test.
When heating wouldn't the conversion loss be zero if the battery was in the same room as the Wave? As the 45 watts needed for conversion would lost as heat? So though minimal the unit would be more 45w more effective on AC.
If you take the suction from inside the room, you are heating warmer air or cooling cooler air which makes it operate much faster. Depending on the room, it will draw a suction. It requires the unit be inside but is likely to stretch the battery life significantly and allow running on ECO mode more keeping it easier to keep charged with solar. Saw this from a different review.
Great review. Definitely got a good feel of how it would be if I owned one.
16:02 - You do hopefully realize a similar watt lossage is also occurring when charging the battery if using an AC adapter.
Great review! Answered all my questions. I have been looking at adding a mini split to my off grid garage to off set the cost of heating with pellets(price has gone up a lot in two years) I already run a 5k btu window air so i will be replacing it with this unit and be getting year round benefits...the cost is substantial but i wont have any install costs like i would with a permanent mini so i feel this is a good value for me.
Thank you so much for your video on the eco flow ac/heater. I always come to your site for advice on new products. Very good advice.
y can"t there b a store that sell"s this stuff. instead of getting everything off of internet
More exspensiv
Y b a... ? 🙄 Why are people so lazy they only type like delinquent children? 😂