I'd like to share a few thoughts. I bought my Delta 2 about 8 months ago. I did so because my country was invaded, and the enemy systematically targets power substations and thermal power plants. As a result, I personally had no electricity or heating for about 18 hours for for months. In the winter of course it was a nuisance - because the heating is centralized - and it's like you're not going anywhere. And along with the light, the heating disappeared. There were scheduled shutdowns - and emergency shutdowns - before and after bombardments. . In some places, there might be no electricity for weeks. And for some peapols no esy options for escape anywhere - because the enemy surrounds us and often causes complete chaos. A swift end would seem like a fairy tale. I was lucky in that regard - I knew there would be a war and managed to escape somewhere. I live in an apartment, so a classic gasoline generator isn't an option - at least, things weren't so bad that I had to use one. And once everything began, fuel was hard to come by. The enemy strategically fired missiles at fuel storage stations. One such station was right outside my window, and that was the first missile I saw. Naturally, in survival conditions, even the biggest fool wouldn't power an air conditioner using the station. Things are done differently - you need sleeping bags with electric heaters. The last resort is an electric blanket. And for powering such heating, the station lasts a long time. To put it simply, a 20,000 mAh power bank is enough for a night's sleep in a sleeping bag (I'm talking about a low-power heating insert for sleeping bags). There are also many devices for cars, like a 12-volt pressure cooker or rice cooker. There are also 300-watt kettles and similar devices. So, even such a small station is quite sufficient for survival. You just need to use it wisely. But it has a drawback - it's noisy. I have two stations - River 2 and Delta 2. River 2 starts to get noisy from 100 watts, while Delta 2 does so from around 200. There's noise even when it functions as a UPS. During charging - sometimes we would get electricity for 40 minutes at 3 AM - it's also noisy. Even at the lowest charging power, around 200 watts, the fan turns on from time to time. There's a solution for this - for River 2, you can find a much quieter Noctua fan. For Delta 2, it's much harder; there's hardly any equivalents. There's a post on Reddit somewhere with tables and options. To me, it's relatively noisy and worse than its competitors. As much as I dislike Anker, their devices are genuinely quiet. Another key advantage of Ecoflow is that their internal boards are covered with varnish, so in humid conditions, they'll last longer than others. No other manufacturer has varnished boards. It complicates repairs but enhances reliability. I also really liked the presence of an app - I use it all the time. I'm thinking of getting some solar panels too, but I haven't decided yet. I think there will be more shelling closer to winter, so I might need to get a panel. Overall, I can recommend this device - there's probably nothing of better quality on the market. The only competitors are Anker and Zendure. Everything else is of poor quality - I've seen them being disassembled, and they're just not worth it. Another important advantage is the lithium iron phosphate battery, which doesn't burn easily. If it's hit by shrapnel, it merely smokes and doesn't flare up like a torch, unlike standard lithium batteries. It's important for me; the last thing I need is for my own battery to harm me after a missile strike. Overall, I liked the quality of construction and materials. Looking at alternatives, you probably won't find anything with similar dimensions, weight, and features.
And an important point - don't forget that starting from 0 degrees Celsius, the device stops charging. At -10 degrees Celsius, it stops charging devices connected to it. This should be kept in mind. The device needs to be stored and used in a heated space.
My biggest pet peeve with all these battery manufactures is, if you don't want me to charge it over 80% or deplete it under 20%, then have it shut itself of at 80% and 20%. Why bother me with that extra responsibility?
long term 20 to 80 is best but say before going camping and knowing you are going to use more then normal you may want to take charge and charge up to 100.
I bought Delta 2 and happy with it. Your comments on AC and DC outlet is correct, they are all should be at the front side. Beware of accident press A/C switch if you press too long it will change from 60 to 50 Cycles where in USA we are using 60 cycles, I have to call EcoFlow customer service on how to get back to 60 cycles but just push and hold the A/C switch again.
That's a nice feature. Its like on the generator i discovered if you hold the AC on button it will switch between ECO and normal mode. These things certainly are feature packed. 👍
I have one of these with an extra battery. I plug it into a 6 Circuit transfer switch. It runs my boiler, all the lights in my house, frig, chest freezer, all the outlets in my living room, all the outlets in my bedroom and my Wi-Fi router. I get about 16hrs from it. Absolutely love it for power outages during the night so I don’t have to run a generator while I’m sleeping
If it is post disaster and sunny out you will not be worrying about how it wont power your "whole house" You will using what you can smartly and you will be thankful you made a very smart decision.. Great video we appreciate your honesty.
But... in a long term SHTF gas, diesel, propane is gone, unlike the sun. In that case, you don't need to power a washer and dryer, 220 range, etc. Just the necessties. Great video. I love review videos by people like you who have nothing to gain by speaking their mind. Thanks!
Correct. However as this sits, it cant even fully recharge itself in a day in an SHTF situation. the single 220w solar panel takes 18+/- hours to fill this battery. IDK where you are, but in the winter the suns not up even close to 18 hours at my place.
@@JohnWCHBut who in their right mind would even contemplate trying to run a large list of electrical appliances at the same time with only one relatively small Delta battery? 😂 That's just wishful thinking. Most of the people using the Ecoflow as backups or for emergency blackouts, use many of the largest Delta battery stations connected together or several units in various parts of the home. However one Delta 2 or Delta Max, combined with a 200W or 400W bifacial solar panel is perfect for using off-grid during long-term wilderness travel in overland vehicles, or vanlife.
@@Globetrotter-1 I'm pretty sure I literally said the same thing in the vid. And fwiw, I didn't review the "largest" or "several units". I said "as it sits". Since I bought this, Ive had blackout AND have taking it camping. Camping it's a HOME RUN. In a blackout, or SHTF situation, it's at the bottom of the list of things I'd grab/use.
@@JohnWCH But you do insinuate that Ecoflow advertises that a single unit can run a complete 🏠...which is certainly not what they actually advertise. It merely shows which appliances can be run individually using Ecoflow products. Also most people understand that the Ecoflow Delta power stations need to be connected to plenty of large solar panels so that daily input matches or exceeds daily/nightly output. It's not rocket science.
@@Globetrotter-1 I'm pretty sure you didn't even watch the video at this point. I didn't "insinuate" anything. I literally showed the advertising on Ecoflows website. Thanks for commenting tho.
I downloaded the app onto my phone. The app allows you to change when the EcoFlow max will turn off and turn on. This is supposed to improve battery life. I had many issues with getting the app to work. Tech support was clueless. Gave me lots of busy work. The answer was to reset all my network settings on the phone to factory. The app works and I was able to decide the unit turns off at 7 percent and stops charging at 98 percent.
I bought this exactly for storm prep despite you saying its useless in that regard. Sure, I wont have the whole house powered up, but in situations like that; being able to run a fridge, a fan, a tv, modem/router, maybe quick microwave uses, etc. is what most people are looking for and this IS perfect for that (I saw a real world test video where this thing powered a full sized fridge continuously for 36 straight hours!) A solar panel can help keep it topped off and in situations of heavy use, I can go charge it in my car for a half hour and get much of the juice back quick.
Have been researching this unit for months now. Thank you for this video. I knew 90 percent of the ones I've watched were "sponsored ". Definitely have me thinking now.
I really appreciate non-sponsored content. These are few and far between for these power stations. I recently purchased this unit and also waiting to receive the add-on battery to expand to 4000wh. Got both on sale for about $1800 all together. I have a 4 circuit transfer switch in my garage already, so I thought it would be cool to use the Ecoflow with about 800 watts of solar (that’s all I have space for) to run one circuit to my kitchen, full time. This includes a full sized fridge, microwave, toaster oven and gas range (with electric starter ). You can charge the Ecoflow from ac and solar simultaneously. You can set it to charge from solar only until it reaches your desired state of charge before it starts charging from both ac and solar. This way you can use the battery while maintaining some reserve for brief power outages. These batteries degrade a bit over time, whether you use them or not. So it makes sense to me to just use them. And I do have a small inverter gas generator that I can use to recharge the battery if necessary. Certainly not a shtf solution, but I think it’s just so cool to be able to use the sun for a bit of electricity daily as well as have some backup for temporary grid down situations. That’s my use case, and I’m sticking to it!
I just ordered the same unit with two 220 watt solar panels. I have to say I agree with your neighbor bob. Not because I'm 60 years old but because if we are hit with an EMP, a coronal mass ejection, or any other attack on the power grid, cell phones and the internet will be rendered useless. However, I think this was a fantastic review on the unit and I am glad I purchased it after watching your video. Thanks again!
If we're hit with an emp or a coronal mass ejection you think your solar generator is still going to work as well? Make a Faraday box for it. Metal trash can essentially, tin foil wrapped around the lid and metal tape around the rivets for the handles.
Thank you for posting this video. I am a woman trying to prep for my family and I’m trying to see what kind of generator I could buy if I need to run my refrigerator or something simple cause I live in a old house with electricity and I don’t think it would handle a huge generator plugged into the socket. cause we could never use the blow dryer and the plug-in heater at the same time it turns off all of my electricity, so I need something very simple just for the refrigerator
Keep checking the prices from several sites and don't pay over $1000. You can adjust how much power it takes from your old house electric outlet so it won't trip the circuit. Keep in mind if you decide to add a solar panel, ecoflow doesn't include it and they sell it for $24. XT160i. Has orange plug. Don't get the yellow xt160 solar cable. Ecoflow includes the XT160i cable when you buy their solar panels but the panels are expensive. You can find good panels for a lower price and just pay for the quality of the xt160i cable. Cheaper version have bad reviews.
Good point and one I always think when seeing an Ad or other refer to it as a Generator. The "Generator" would be a solar panel(s), or even the Power Plant that provides your AC Power to your home, these are Battery Storage Units, with Inverters and a Battery Management System, Not "Generators"...
Great review. Luckliy, I really only bought this to keep the refrigerator runny which it does for just under 11 hours depending on how often you open the doors. If you don't have solar panels, getting a small gas-powered inverter is a great idea, especially if getting fuel is an issue. I use the inverter to charge the Delta 2 twice a day and run some lights and a small air conditioner with the inverter if needed.
Great review! Got mine for a little more than $1.4k at that price its definitely worth it. They took over a month to ship it to me even though it said 3 days. They ended up sending me a $50 discount. Happy so far.
Bought the Ecoflow duramax with extra battery and had to send it back bc the the battery did not charge more that 21%😩 I purchased the Anker 767 and it works great.
Great video 👍 after watching all the sales bull channels, you were a breath of fresh air, and great humour - thoroughly enjoyed it - thx for sharing 👍👍
shtf really depends on what you need and where you are, but in a lot of situations I'd take a couple of silent solar panels and a battery over a noisy attention grabbing generator I have to find gasoline for.
I was in the fence about getting one but I just ordered the Ecoflow Delta 2 from HSN with the solar panels for the low price of $649 which I think was the best deal. I looked at this unit elsewhere like Amazon for just about double that price, so I couldn’t pass it up. So it was definitely worth it for me and what it could do for that price. Wouldn’t you agree?
I brought my Delta 2 Max mainly just for powering my Ecoflow Wave 2 "mini split". I feed 3 x 220w Serial Array into D2M PV port #1. I feed one 220w panel into PV port #2. My Wave 2 will run from 8am to 7pm. I don't need to use the D2M power charger. Outside at our Patio under shade its been hitting 115F-118F. Solar exclusively been running my Wave2 quite well. Guess someday I may add couple more 220w panels to run a few small appliances. My Wave 2 connects DC-DC to the D2M via xt150 cable.
For Camping and Outdoor visits I will take my D2M and portable Ecoflow 400w panel. The 400w panel xt60 cable can connect directly to the D2M. Starting the Day with a Full D2M battery(2048w?) and the 400w panel I can run many many things much all day long when outdoors.
When I get 2 more 220w Solar panels I will attach a cable from the D2M AC Outlet feeding it to the nearby kitchen. And run my microwave and Hot water Kettle off Solar. Likely I will very seldom need to plug in the power charger cable onto the D2M.
Enjoyed your video very much. I have the same gripe about the tiny user manual. I did what you talked about. I went on the web and watched a bunch of other people do videos about the Delta Max 2 to figure out how everything works. I really only got it to power our furnace, fridge and a few lights. KInd of a hedge against Winter power outages. Everything else we can deal with. Seems good so far although I am still waiting for the solar panel to be delivered.
Excellent info. Thanks! Regarding the outlets being on the back of the unit, you could put it on a Lazy Susan so you could spin it around in either direction.
I don't think you need to be an engineer by any stretch of the word. I just happen to have that advantage, the settings are pretty generic if you understand the basics of a backup power supply. Google some stuff and you'll be Mike's ahead of any manual...actually that can be said for most any consumer product...let's face it you didn't learn all the features of your car by reading the manual now did you haha. Reach out to me if you want help with setting these up to maximize its potential for you.
I just ordered one, primary use is for a back up for my Modem/Router and my work laptop as I work from home.. I am planning to add 500 watt solar and I will probably use it to run a Mini Split AC/Heating, with the power I can generate from Solar. It may be a minor reduction on my electric, I mean if I have it, might as well use it.
Good realistic review. Back in May 2024 paid $1274.00 for my delta 2 max after $250 discount coupon. Since then I've seen it go down to around $900. I'm very happy with this unit. I got it mainly for spring time sump pump backup. It will run a fridge if needed and has enough battery capacity to last a while until the grid power comes back on.... Colorado, no hurricanes. It is quite heavy but manageable. The app us very good and you can monitor the unit by Bluetooth or WiFi...my bluetti ac180 doesn't have WiFi connection. If you you are new and ready to buy your first battery station you should get this model and not be disappointed as you will be with a less powered battery station. The delta 3 models are coming out and the Delta 2 Max price should keep coming down.
Hi..great video..I just bought the delta 2 and was hoping I could use a transfer switch to generate power to certain items..but I don't think I can. I also have a dual generator which I will hook up to a transfer switch to run items pertaining to water..mostly..hoping i never need it..I will only need this setup in winter...otherwise I will use my delta 2..delta mini and my river 2 max which I have 2..and I also own smaller bluetti power stations.. all bought for power outages..at times we lose power here. I have solar panels too..both rigid and portable..I am in the market for turntable s to work with my ecoflow products..I find it annoying trying to see the sides of the units..all on the front would be better..and worse is my bluetti eb55 that has a display which is useless almost..any suggestions are appreciated last power out 105 hours..only had a Go Labs and 4gb of data. Ty again for your video..very refreshing.
It powers the whole house if you buy 2 of the pro editions and expand it with there expandable battery's. You can have an electrician tie that into your box just like people do with a gas generator same concept. It all depends on how much you are willing to spend. For blackout I have a gas generator to charge my 2 solar generators if no sun also for added outlets if needed. I did not buy ecoflow because they are very overpriced. Save some money buy a pecron. No tracking apps and can take in 1300 watts of solar. You talk about charging fast. I like both solar and gas they compliment each other. I am not listening to the gas generator all night. Lol, By the way unless you brew coffee 24/7 it's not going deplete you battery very much. I have coffee every morning and afternoon it does nothing to my battery. I live in Fl. first thing to be unavailable gas and propane after storms and before. It's nice to have both. Yes I agree a lot of hype on it on youtube I found your video very refreshing because of your honesty. Someone just telling me what they think what a novel idea!!!
Thanks for your feedback and thanks for watching. You and I agree on the first point, but that's not the unit I purchased so its a moot point (albeit true). I agree on your point about the gas and propane being unavailable and comments like this help myself and other better prepare in their own situations, by learning from yours.
Great video cheers Maybe now review it again when charging via the sun and alternator charger via car. Alternator one is a game changer You can also use it while it charges
I have the Ecoflow Delta2 for just over a year. It is great for camping, running tools away from home, charging a bunch of mobile devices. It isn't very efficient at converting battery to AC. It also has a major flaw that its AC output is reversed polarity. So you really can't just have a simple 110v plug from your Gas furnace to keep the heat on a winter storm with a power outage. It requires that you flip the hot and neutral in the furnace, then to go bad to gid power, flip it back. Also a high efficiency gas furnace uses up to 600watts, so the Delta2 if wired compatible manner it didn't last 1 hour. the 75% efficiency really hurts it! What is really strange is that if you have it connected to AC for charging, the AC outputs show 50volts! Why? Charging off typical car 12v lighter plug, it only can charge at 95watts due to the typical car 12v circuits. Otherwise it is a great device for what it does, but don't compare it to a Delta Pro or the new Ultra.
GREAT VIDEO thank you!!! I just watched a bunch of ""sponsored"" video's and it looked fantastic... I'm still going to buy it and hope for the best... I am buying it for a SHTF ... I have a 11KW whole house Generac generator ( for 7 years it's ran the whole house in emergencies... well pump..... oil fired hot water heater..... HUGE oil furnace.... fridge.... big screen TV ....microwave....and yes washer and dryer for several weeks at a time. in 4 big storms where power was out for weeks) I have a 1000 gallon underground propane tank... I also have three 330 gallon oil tanks in my cellar, total is 990 gallons...I use about 700 to 850 gallons of oil a year.... that oil heats my home and hot water.... and also powers my diesel tractors and my 15,000 watt PTO generator... I also have a back up 10,000 watt gasoline generator just in case. for years I use a ton of fuel just to run the generator... once the house is warmed up to 80 and I've had my hot shower and the toilet tanks have refilled and I've made toast and scrambled eggs and bacon I can shut off the generator until I get ready for bed and have supper.... by then the house in 60 degrees.... but I need my refrigerator and a freezer chest to stay cold all day. ... I also need my CPAP machine to sleep for 8 hours a night....and hate wasting fuel to do it.... according to the other video's I can run my fridge for 20 to 30 hours.... and the CPAP machine easily for the 8 hours... the next day I will start my generator up again to reheat the house again and have another hot shower..... while I'm running the generator to do that I'll recharge the EcoFlow Delta 2 Max...... so I will only have to run my generator for a couple hours in the morning and maybe a couple hours in the evening...... saving lots of fuel.. so my 1000 gallons of propane might last a couple years if the Ecoflow keeps the fridge and CPAP machine going. I'm also going to see how long it will run my furnace.... if it can run my furnace for several hours I will only have to run the generator to recharge the EcoFlow.... that would be awesome!!!!... probably only going to be a pipe dream... but it sounds good... the furnace fan has a start up draw of 16 amps... and the oil burner uses an other couple amps... so 18 amps times 120 volts = 2160 watts... we will see..... by the way ....not enough sun in Massachusetts to recharge with solar for 7 months out of the year..... this is porbably going to be a waste of money but thanks to you I am going in with my eyes open
Yes I agree with you about the placement of outlets even though I understand why they did it. My suggestion is whenever possible build a small shelf that pulls out. Easy to do and does not cost much. Your chicken coup is an excellent place for that. Going cheap will be about $25.00.
If you don't mind spending the money, the Hysolis Apollo has a detachable control screen that allows you to perform all local settings within Bluetooth distance. ... It is newer, has only been on the market, and not quite as tested as the Eco-Flow stuff.
I bought one 3 years ago plugged it in to my motorhome/rv and it burned out running tv fridge heater guess I expected too much, I did get a new one free and since then it's been fine for one appliance
Thanks for this, I was curious as to weather this could keep my refrigerator and freezer running for several days in a power outage. There was a sorry dearth of information on the website as to what it could and could not do. Your video gave me all the answers I needed. Kudos!
@@TobyCostaRica would two 4-5 foot chest freezers be considered high draw - or high draw are item ie washing machines, vacuum cleaners, power saws? I am just starting to search and this was helpful - thank you. (would be nice if it could be our energy source to boondog in the RV)
@@ritashimniok1043 depends on the model. My washing machine is very efficient. Chest freezers, especially packed full don’t use much energy and are more efficient than refrigerators. You can look at the yellow tag and divide the annual kWh by 365 days to see how much power you use. But if I were to guess, the D2 Max would run 2 chest freezers 36-48hrs. With 1000 watts of solar you can run them forever most seasons depending where you live. I’m in Southern California and we have 300 days of sunshine so solar is a great option
I bought my Ecoflo Delta 2 Max power station this month of December. I also bought an extra battery and panel but the Ecoflo was the one I bought first. It was installed on the 18th of December, 2024 but it has been tripping off. Can you help with your engineers to see to it
I use these specifically to provide power when there is an outage in the middle of a hurricane until I can get outside and hook up my generator to my panel.
On black friday the price for that unit alone was $899 - the next day the price jumped waaay up to $1899!!! That's the MSRP? That night i couldn't shake this bad feeling i had - and did not buy it. $1000 BF discount? Is that typical of companies to do that?!?
Question I have the same unit at my office grid cabin with 400w solar panels it seems the unit stops taking a solar charge after the sun goes down the next sunny day it will not auto charge I have to manually unplug and plug the solar cable in to get it to start charging again I’m wondering if you have to do the same in your chicken coop
Hey everyone...you ALL seem very knowledgeable about these battery stations so PLEASE help me pick out one! All i want to keep running in a power outage, is my large LG refrigerator. I did the math.. 20amps x 120 is 2400...SO..which Delta ecoflow should i purchase? They are expensive so i want to make a good choice. The Delta 2 max or the Delta Pro? Thanks!
Honestly? As big as you can afford is the best way. You won't regret having MORE power available. There is a link in the description to this particular unit if you decide on the D2M.
You're absolutely right the marketing info would lead you to believe that this thing will power everything in your house. It's a consumer product that will run a few things when you're out tailgating or out camping. It doesn't have a lot of capacity you're not going to run power saws and drills all day long. You're going to be able to charge your phone run a few small things for a few hours. It's a great product don't get me wrong but it's just not for doing a lot of anything. Even with the extended battery you're not going to run a lot of things for any length of time. It's a great concept and a lot of people will buy it thinking that it's going to do a lot of different things. It'll get you by in a power outage running your router charging your phone maybe using your laptop for a while but that's about it.
I love the fact that you said it’s not a generator. I completely cringe as well when I hear this, marketing BS. I’m going to subscribe just because of that comment alone.
Just like a gas generator can’t produce energy without gas, a solar generator can’t produce energy without solar panels and solar, but with the added benefit of energy storage.
@@imnguyen6658 At the risk of being pedantic, the unit has a charge controller which is needed to allow the solar panel to charge the battery. But that controller is a voltage and current regulator, not a generator. So the Ecoflow Delta 2 is maybe a smart-battery-with-integrated-inverter-and-charge-controller, haha.
I don't have this unit specifically but I have 2 others similar and I don't like how you can set up the device to the settings you want but then on e you close out of the settings or take the device out of the network the settings revert back to factory. Kinda makes having the controls worthless since they won't stay programed. I say this because I do use it in a small off grid setting and my generator won't fast charge it because of output so it's a problem the settings don't stay where I want them to. So I have to bring the device home because of this so thats something that is important to know
Thx for making this video. Im thinking I would build a small tray with wheels for easier turning to access both faces like when in a shelf you built. Quick spin quick access would be a possible option. Cheers !
The only thing "app-reluctant" folks like me and the guy you mention, can't utilize without the app - is the Xboost, which I could live without. Firmware? It can be got online. This unit has an onboard update mode - just have to be sure and format your flash drive to FAT32. I don't want this unit anywhere near the internet! Say, does your window AC have one of the newer varible speed inverter compressors? That style AC would seem to be more conducive to use with this, or any generator really, yeah?
Good video! However, what do you need settings or an app for on a 'battery'? Having tried many configurations to see if I could get non 'generator' backup batteries to charge from solar panels (doesn't work w/out a charge controller) I think that the circuitry converting solar ('fuel') to electric energy, and regulating it's (electricity) use, that is how I define the term 'solar generator' vs. just a storage battery.
Fair enough. And the settings that are on the app are uhhhh all of them. Xboost on/off, timeouts, firmware updates, charge limits, smart generator limits, etc.
Just stumbled onto you.. Excellent review. I've been looking for a SHTF solar generator to operate just 1 unit.. a 900 watt air conditioner in the summer intermittently when roasting in the Texas heat.(squeezing into one room) Was thinking about adding the extra battery and 2 of the 400-watt solar panels to charge it. Got more thinking to do. It's been so hard to figure out which one could be best...the solar charging has me all confused. Thanks for the review.
I can tell you this, after a few months of daily use, do yourself a favor and figure out the MOST/LARGEST solar panels you can buy. Solar charging, in an shtf situation, would be an impossible task with the setup they sell. Think recharge times north of 19 hours with a 220w panel. The suns only up for 12 in winter at best and certainly not usable to charge, etc. Good luck!
Decent review and video. You are who you are. While you are correct in that unit on your table being a Battery it is really a micro processing controlled Energy Storage Unit that is part of an Energy Generating System. effectively making it a Generator (when all the pieces are in place). That is why they call it what they do. I bought Two, $900 each for Emergency usage. One lives in my shop to power a 21 cf refrigerator when we lose service and it will power that fridge for 24 - 30 hours depending on the season. The other in our living space to power TV, entertainment, communications, and a lamp so I'm not sitting in the dark with just a candle burning when the service goes out. They have their purpose and usage's. Every contractor should have one on their trucks. Outdoorsman, campers, hunters even guys with chicken coupes ! You can figure how long it will run something by doing the math with the watts a certain item will draw.
The batteries have a special outlet on the side; the special batteries have no other outlets. That corresponding battery comes with a special cable that connects between the main unit (via a special outlet as well) and that battery. Some models accommodate two such batteries. No disassembly of anything is needed; they just plug together via the special cable.
I have the same item. The thing that bothered me about this unit is that the functions is on the side. It should've been in the front. Making it remind me of a old computer case, where things are on the sides. But this is not a computer case. This is something you are going use as a power bank. So you constantly need to access to the plugs and USB and installation just make sense with the widest point against the wall.
@@JohnWCH indeed, insightful video … but wasn’t trying to knock you down … as a Brit, I didn’t understand at first what 110v power was …. Voltage tolerance between 220v and 240v has been a topic of discussion here over the years but Google has all the answers so just keep saying 110/220v - even someone as dense as me will figure it out 😂😂😂
I'm interested in this because an ecoflow pro is 3.6kwh and the delta2 is 2kwh and with an extra battery is another 2kwh so you can have 4kwh that is more easily portable than the delta pro
I saw this come up on Amazon Days at a great price bundled with a 400W panel. Glad I got it. Along with my 2 - 2000W Yamahas I'm pretty secure. Grid down is my biggest fear and I feel better having the Ecoflow
You can actually live on delta 2 power station with Sun panels. And generator to charge on not sunny days. Good refrigerator use like 8,2 watt hour. 72kwh a year. And this for around 349 dollars. But if you want hott water tank. Cooking and heat. Then nope. Fire wood warmth. Cooking if saved enough energy or Should have an invertere generator as a backup to charge it up. For a single man. Examble monitor around 23 watt/H . Refrigerator 5-15 watt. Pc 35-100watt maybe. So for that type very useful. A bitt dissapointed about solar charge. But not tested on very clear day. But for my wanted use PC, monitor, refrigerator, sometimes cooking. Invertere generator backup. Solar 220w panels. It works okay
Everyone's experience is going to be different on a number of factors. Sounds like you have also everything dialed in; save for a few more solar panels.
While I appreciate your review and you're honest approach to giving the information of the product I believe you're missing the entire point of it. You seem to refrain from doing any research on how the product functions. In the photo you showed during the portion where you said that this will not power your home the battery is hooked to what is called a critical loads panel which is used to connect four or five 110v circuits to a backup power source. During the portion of the video where it says it will only run your coffee pot for 2 hours that is if you were making coffee for 2hours straight not just leaving it plugged in. And I do agree that this is not a shtf solution but for your average in need of short term power during a outage or for a portable power solution i think it is a perfect product.
I respectfully disagree on your first point. I'm well aware of how this unit works. And if I'm going to the trouble of hooking up a transfer switch (critical loads panel as you called it), id get a Pro not a D2M. It doesn't have the watts to last long enough. But in the end we agreed; its not a SHTF solution but its a great portable power solution. I drag this thing around WAY more than I thought I would. I use it ALL the time, but it wouldn't be the first thing I thought of if the power went out.
Mine works flawlessly in powering my critical needs in case the grid goes down. Powers my big refrigerator up to 17 hours and lights, TV , and internet. Coupled with the 400 watt solar panels and extra expansion battery you can definitely live for a few days off the grid.
What about America's favorite attribute - Planned Obsolescence? They build a battery with a 10 year lifespan? Which component will wear out in 6 months?
Great review brother, I’ve noticed some of these come with various KWh outputs. I’m wondering if this model could run a 500 BTU window A\C unit with that generator?
I run a 5000btu ac in my camper with it. The ac uses 400watts when the compressor runs, but the fan is always on drawing 40 watts. So I cool things off at night then power the air conditioner off and run an USB fan.
Just a thought about the handles......they are perfect for me cause I am a small female and the 27 lbs is a lot for me so the handles make it easier for me to move it around.
@@JohnWCH it can charge with AC power and solar at the same time. What it can’t do is charge from solar and a van/rv cigarette lighter because they both share the same port. Major fail for people in vans or RVs. Also, it doesn’t have the DC output to keep up with a diesel heater, very common for people in vans and RVs. Those heaters draw too many amps at startup to use the cigarette lighter output, or the Anderson clips on the Pro. Another major failing. Other than that it’s a great. So maybe it is a semi pro. I waste some power using an inverter from my diesel heater. I am also considering a way to join the solar and cigarette lighter wires to both feed the single port.
Here in the UK we use 240v 50 Hz so I guess the ones sold over here are set up for our power levels. Don’t like the bit you said about 20% min, 80% max that means if its a 10 hour run time its suddenly become a 6 hours device, bit like our Tesla, supposed to have a 330 mile range but as we shouldn’t charge over 80% thats just reduced its range to 264 mile range, then we shouldn’t let it get below 20% state of charge so now its a 198 mile range vehicle, not quite what they said when we bought the car !. I really enjoyed your video, looking to buy a battery unit to run our Caravan rather than using the camp site power, we can charge on cheap overnight at home then use it all on-site, maybe look at solar charging too although here in the UK we don’t get much sun….if they ever make panels that run on rain we will be all set to go !
Nice rant - I mean review. I kinda agree with most points, the entire battery industry is trying to push their products as something they are not. It's so bad that many are actively trying to hide the parameters. Watt-hours, that's that? It will charge your phone 20 times and that's all you need to know. I'm looking at one retailer right now, it only reports a 2-6kWh expandable capacity. I have to read the manual to see what is the actual capacity. 2048 Watt-hours. That means you can run one 100W light bulb for 20 hours. But wait... You should only charge it up to 80% and discharge it to 20%. So you lose 40% just following good practice. The rest is roughly 1200 WH, which is great for camping. But as a home backup, it'll mostly be used to run the TV waiting for the power to come back. Or run the sump pump during a storm. It is OK for what it does, but it is a doesn't do what it's advertised to.
I figured this would be great to run the ecoflow portable a/c unit when I use my Suburban as a camper in Arizona for 3 months a year. I'll have 400 watts solar on the roof to keep things charged along with a Predator 5000. As long as the lil a/c thingy works, I'll be set :)
Your video is the most honest video that I ever watched. Not getting paid and the unit is great but won’t run anything for a long period as they make us believe. The battery is a great item. Great video thank you 🙏 🇺🇸
Hey as a man I love cool things that are practical, with that said and typed I am in the market to buys the Eco Delta 2. Using it daily, outdoors, including our food trailet. Thanks for the review.
There's a link in the description for this exact unit. However on the Amazon store you can look around for one that may suit your needs bigger or smaller. They are great units. Working for me great so far.
Hay Boomer here .And yes you're right I wouldn't know the first thing about how to use this.i would need very simple instructions. If fact just looking at it confused me. That's why I'm watching RUclips videos.😃 So thanks for your video very informative.
I want to see the VOLTAGE under various loads with a voltage tester or kilowatt meter. If the voltage drops below 117 volts under full load, I call that a failure.
I'd like to share a few thoughts.
I bought my Delta 2 about 8 months ago. I did so because my country was invaded, and the enemy systematically targets power substations and thermal power plants. As a result, I personally had no electricity or heating for about 18 hours for for months. In the winter of course it was a nuisance - because the heating is centralized - and it's like you're not going anywhere. And along with the light, the heating disappeared. There were scheduled shutdowns - and emergency shutdowns - before and after bombardments. . In some places, there might be no electricity for weeks. And for some peapols no esy options for escape anywhere - because the enemy surrounds us and often causes complete chaos. A swift end would seem like a fairy tale. I was lucky in that regard - I knew there would be a war and managed to escape somewhere.
I live in an apartment, so a classic gasoline generator isn't an option - at least, things weren't so bad that I had to use one. And once everything began, fuel was hard to come by. The enemy strategically fired missiles at fuel storage stations. One such station was right outside my window, and that was the first missile I saw.
Naturally, in survival conditions, even the biggest fool wouldn't power an air conditioner using the station. Things are done differently - you need sleeping bags with electric heaters. The last resort is an electric blanket. And for powering such heating, the station lasts a long time. To put it simply, a 20,000 mAh power bank is enough for a night's sleep in a sleeping bag (I'm talking about a low-power heating insert for sleeping bags).
There are also many devices for cars, like a 12-volt pressure cooker or rice cooker. There are also 300-watt kettles and similar devices.
So, even such a small station is quite sufficient for survival. You just need to use it wisely.
But it has a drawback - it's noisy. I have two stations - River 2 and Delta 2. River 2 starts to get noisy from 100 watts, while Delta 2 does so from around 200. There's noise even when it functions as a UPS.
During charging - sometimes we would get electricity for 40 minutes at 3 AM - it's also noisy. Even at the lowest charging power, around 200 watts, the fan turns on from time to time. There's a solution for this - for River 2, you can find a much quieter Noctua fan. For Delta 2, it's much harder; there's hardly any equivalents. There's a post on Reddit somewhere with tables and options.
To me, it's relatively noisy and worse than its competitors. As much as I dislike Anker, their devices are genuinely quiet.
Another key advantage of Ecoflow is that their internal boards are covered with varnish, so in humid conditions, they'll last longer than others. No other manufacturer has varnished boards. It complicates repairs but enhances reliability.
I also really liked the presence of an app - I use it all the time.
I'm thinking of getting some solar panels too, but I haven't decided yet. I think there will be more shelling closer to winter, so I might need to get a panel.
Overall, I can recommend this device - there's probably nothing of better quality on the market. The only competitors are Anker and Zendure. Everything else is of poor quality - I've seen them being disassembled, and they're just not worth it.
Another important advantage is the lithium iron phosphate battery, which doesn't burn easily. If it's hit by shrapnel, it merely smokes and doesn't flare up like a torch, unlike standard lithium batteries. It's important for me; the last thing I need is for my own battery to harm me after a missile strike. Overall, I liked the quality of construction and materials. Looking at alternatives, you probably won't find anything with similar dimensions, weight, and features.
And an important point - don't forget that starting from 0 degrees Celsius, the device stops charging. At -10 degrees Celsius, it stops charging devices connected to it. This should be kept in mind. The device needs to be stored and used in a heated space.
Can I interview you? Seriously.
@@JohnWCH yep ok.
@@JohnWCH I sent you an e-mail to the e-mail address on the channel.
surprisingly good english, not sure if AI or paid reviewer
One of the most informative,honest videos I have seen in a long time. You have a new subscriber and a new thumbs up. nice vid.
My biggest pet peeve with all these battery manufactures is, if you don't want me to charge it over 80% or deplete it under 20%, then have it shut itself of at 80% and 20%. Why bother me with that extra responsibility?
you can set it in the app to do just that.
long term 20 to 80 is best but say before going camping and knowing you are going to use more then normal you may want to take charge and charge up to 100.
@@JohnWCH ez solution for Applejacks biggest pet peeve
Possibly for emergency purposes.
People who think of prepping in terms of continuing their current lifestyle, but without the electrical grid are fooling themselves.
I bought Delta 2 and happy with it.
Your comments on AC and DC outlet is correct, they are all should be at the front side. Beware of accident press A/C switch if you press too long it will change from 60 to 50 Cycles where in USA we are using 60 cycles, I have to call EcoFlow customer service on how to get back to 60 cycles but just push and hold the A/C switch again.
Good to know!
That's a nice feature.
Its like on the generator i discovered if you hold the AC on button it will switch between ECO and normal mode.
These things certainly are feature packed. 👍
Look at the one with the power outlets on the side, they are bloated and weigh more, they are just making the size as efficient as they can.
I have one of these with an extra battery. I plug it into a 6 Circuit transfer switch. It runs my boiler, all the lights in my house, frig, chest freezer, all the outlets in my living room, all the outlets in my bedroom and my Wi-Fi router. I get about 16hrs from it. Absolutely love it for power outages during the night so I don’t have to run a generator while I’m sleeping
If it is post disaster and sunny out you will not be worrying about how it wont power your "whole house"
You will using what you can smartly and you will be thankful you made a very smart decision.. Great video we appreciate your honesty.
That's a lot of "ifs" The other models from ecoflow are better suited for emergency situations. IMO.
You are excellent in explaining the product. Keep up the great work and thanks for being yourself!
Thanks!
But... in a long term SHTF gas, diesel, propane is gone, unlike the sun. In that case, you don't need to power a washer and dryer, 220 range, etc. Just the necessties. Great video. I love review videos by people like you who have nothing to gain by speaking their mind. Thanks!
Correct. However as this sits, it cant even fully recharge itself in a day in an SHTF situation. the single 220w solar panel takes 18+/- hours to fill this battery. IDK where you are, but in the winter the suns not up even close to 18 hours at my place.
@@JohnWCHBut who in their right mind would even contemplate trying to run a large list of electrical appliances at the same time with only one relatively small Delta battery? 😂 That's just wishful thinking. Most of the people using the Ecoflow as backups or for emergency blackouts, use many of the largest Delta battery stations connected together or several units in various parts of the home.
However one Delta 2 or Delta Max, combined with a 200W or 400W bifacial solar panel is perfect for using off-grid during long-term wilderness travel in overland vehicles, or vanlife.
@@Globetrotter-1 I'm pretty sure I literally said the same thing in the vid. And fwiw, I didn't review the "largest" or "several units". I said "as it sits". Since I bought this, Ive had blackout AND have taking it camping. Camping it's a HOME RUN. In a blackout, or SHTF situation, it's at the bottom of the list of things I'd grab/use.
@@JohnWCH But you do insinuate that Ecoflow advertises that a single unit can run a complete 🏠...which is certainly not what they actually advertise. It merely shows which appliances can be run individually using Ecoflow products. Also most people understand that the Ecoflow Delta power stations need to be connected to plenty of large solar panels so that daily input matches or exceeds daily/nightly output. It's not rocket science.
@@Globetrotter-1 I'm pretty sure you didn't even watch the video at this point. I didn't "insinuate" anything. I literally showed the advertising on Ecoflows website. Thanks for commenting tho.
I downloaded the app onto my phone. The app allows you to change when the EcoFlow max will turn off and turn on. This is supposed to improve battery life. I had many issues with getting the app to work. Tech support was clueless. Gave me lots of busy work. The answer was to reset all my network settings on the phone to factory. The app works and I was able to decide the unit turns off at 7 percent and stops charging at 98 percent.
I bought this exactly for storm prep despite you saying its useless in that regard. Sure, I wont have the whole house powered up, but in situations like that; being able to run a fridge, a fan, a tv, modem/router, maybe quick microwave uses, etc. is what most people are looking for and this IS perfect for that (I saw a real world test video where this thing powered a full sized fridge continuously for 36 straight hours!) A solar panel can help keep it topped off and in situations of heavy use, I can go charge it in my car for a half hour and get much of the juice back quick.
Have been researching this unit for months now. Thank you for this video. I knew 90 percent of the ones I've watched were "sponsored ". Definitely have me thinking now.
It's holding up well and working great so far.
I really appreciate non-sponsored content. These are few and far between for these power stations. I recently purchased this unit and also waiting to receive the add-on battery to expand to 4000wh. Got both on sale for about $1800 all together. I have a 4 circuit transfer switch in my garage already, so I thought it would be cool to use the Ecoflow with about 800 watts of solar (that’s all I have space for) to run one circuit to my kitchen, full time. This includes a full sized fridge, microwave, toaster oven and gas range (with electric starter ). You can charge the Ecoflow from ac and solar simultaneously. You can set it to charge from solar only until it reaches your desired state of charge before it starts charging from both ac and solar. This way you can use the battery while maintaining some reserve for brief power outages. These batteries degrade a bit over time, whether you use them or not. So it makes sense to me to just use them. And I do have a small inverter gas generator that I can use to recharge the battery if necessary. Certainly not a shtf solution, but I think it’s just so cool to be able to use the sun for a bit of electricity daily as well as have some backup for temporary grid down situations. That’s my use case, and I’m sticking to it!
Thanks for the demo and info, I like the honest opinion. I just got mine, and lets see if I have the same annoying issues as you. Have a great day
Thanks for watchin!
I just ordered the same unit with two 220 watt solar panels. I have to say I agree with your neighbor bob. Not because I'm 60 years old but because if we are hit with an EMP, a coronal mass ejection, or any other attack on the power grid, cell phones and the internet will be rendered useless. However, I think this was a fantastic review on the unit and I am glad I purchased it after watching your video. Thanks again!
How are you liking it so far?
If we're hit with an emp or a coronal mass ejection you think your solar generator is still going to work as well? Make a Faraday box for it. Metal trash can essentially, tin foil wrapped around the lid and metal tape around the rivets for the handles.
Yeah an emp wipes this out too
@JoeBonJoeE I keep it in a faraday cage. But thanks for your observation.
Excellent review… Thank You
Thank you for posting this video. I am a woman trying to prep for my family and I’m trying to see what kind of generator I could buy if I need to run my refrigerator or something simple cause I live in a old house with electricity and I don’t think it would handle a huge generator plugged into the socket. cause we could never use the blow dryer and the plug-in heater at the same time it turns off all of my electricity, so I need something very simple just for the refrigerator
This would work well for that
Keep checking the prices from several sites and don't pay over $1000. You can adjust how much power it takes from your old house electric outlet so it won't trip the circuit. Keep in mind if you decide to add a solar panel, ecoflow doesn't include it and they sell it for $24. XT160i. Has orange plug. Don't get the yellow xt160 solar cable.
Ecoflow includes the XT160i cable when you buy their solar panels but the panels are expensive. You can find good panels for a lower price and just pay for the quality of the xt160i cable. Cheaper version have bad reviews.
Generator, I am glad you said this is a battery. And I appreciate your review. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Good point and one I always think when seeing an Ad or other refer to it as a Generator. The "Generator" would be a solar panel(s), or even the Power Plant that provides your AC Power to your home, these are Battery Storage Units, with Inverters and a Battery Management System, Not "Generators"...
Yes, the “solar generator” marketing language makes me cringe too. 😖
Thank you for your honesty
my pleasure.
Great review. Luckliy, I really only bought this to keep the refrigerator runny which it does for just under 11 hours depending on how often you open the doors. If you don't have solar panels, getting a small gas-powered inverter is a great idea, especially if getting fuel is an issue. I use the inverter to charge the Delta 2 twice a day and run some lights and a small air conditioner with the inverter if needed.
Is this a normal house fridge/freezer or camping one?
Can it be plugged in continuously with out overheating or over charging it
Yes
Great review! Got mine for a little more than $1.4k at that price its definitely worth it. They took over a month to ship it to me even though it said 3 days. They ended up sending me a $50 discount. Happy so far.
Nice
Bought the Ecoflow duramax with extra battery and had to send it back bc the the battery did not charge more that 21%😩
I purchased the Anker 767 and it works great.
Great video 👍 after watching all the sales bull channels, you were a breath of fresh air, and great humour - thoroughly enjoyed it - thx for sharing 👍👍
shtf really depends on what you need and where you are, but in a lot of situations I'd take a couple of silent solar panels and a battery over a noisy attention grabbing generator I have to find gasoline for.
great review btw!
I agree 100%. But. I have both just I case.
I was in the fence about getting one but I just ordered the Ecoflow Delta 2 from HSN with the solar panels for the low price of $649 which I think was the best deal. I looked at this unit elsewhere like Amazon for just about double that price, so I couldn’t pass it up. So it was definitely worth it for me and what it could do for that price. Wouldn’t you agree?
I brought my Delta 2 Max mainly just for powering my Ecoflow Wave 2 "mini split".
I feed 3 x 220w Serial Array
into D2M PV port #1. I feed one 220w panel into PV port #2. My Wave 2 will run from 8am to 7pm. I don't need to use the D2M power charger.
Outside at our Patio under shade its been hitting 115F-118F. Solar exclusively been running my Wave2 quite well. Guess someday I may add couple more 220w panels to run a few small appliances. My Wave 2 connects DC-DC to the D2M via xt150 cable.
For Camping and Outdoor visits I will take my D2M and portable Ecoflow 400w panel. The 400w panel xt60
cable can connect directly to the D2M. Starting the Day with a Full D2M battery(2048w?) and the 400w panel I can run many many things much all day long when outdoors.
When I get 2 more 220w Solar panels I will attach a cable from the D2M AC Outlet feeding it to the nearby kitchen. And run my microwave and Hot water Kettle off Solar. Likely I will very seldom need to plug in the power charger cable onto the D2M.
While i havent done anything with solar yet (obvi), it seems from your experience the way that I thought: Its perfect for small off grid.
Thank you... very interesting, thinking on get one for my self. You gave me very good points to think.😊
Enjoyed your video very much. I have the same gripe about the tiny user manual. I did what you talked about. I went on the web and watched a bunch of other people do videos about the Delta Max 2 to figure out how everything works. I really only got it to power our furnace, fridge and a few lights. KInd of a hedge against Winter power outages. Everything else we can deal with. Seems good so far although I am still waiting for the solar panel to be delivered.
Excellent info. Thanks! Regarding the outlets being on the back of the unit, you could put it on a Lazy Susan so you could spin it around in either direction.
Good idea. Thanks for watching
The Delta 2 is
That's great! I agree these are pretty awesome. However, being an engineer to understand the settings isn't exactly a selling point.
I don't think you need to be an engineer by any stretch of the word. I just happen to have that advantage, the settings are pretty generic if you understand the basics of a backup power supply. Google some stuff and you'll be Mike's ahead of any manual...actually that can be said for most any consumer product...let's face it you didn't learn all the features of your car by reading the manual now did you haha. Reach out to me if you want help with setting these up to maximize its potential for you.
I'm not a power engineer but I once stayed at a best western where a power engineer once stayed
I just ordered one, primary use is for a back up for my Modem/Router and my work laptop as I work from home.. I am planning to add 500 watt solar and I will probably use it to run a Mini Split AC/Heating, with the power I can generate from Solar. It may be a minor reduction on my electric, I mean if I have it, might as well use it.
good idea
Good realistic review. Back in May 2024 paid $1274.00 for my delta 2 max after $250 discount coupon. Since then I've seen it go down to around $900. I'm very happy with this unit. I got it mainly for spring time sump pump backup. It will run a fridge if needed and has enough battery capacity to last a while until the grid power comes back on.... Colorado, no hurricanes. It is quite heavy but manageable. The app us very good and you can monitor the unit by Bluetooth or WiFi...my bluetti ac180 doesn't have WiFi connection.
If you you are new and ready to buy your first battery station you should get this model and not be disappointed as you will be with a less powered battery station. The delta 3 models are coming out and the Delta 2 Max price should keep coming down.
Hi..great video..I just bought the delta 2 and was hoping I could use a transfer switch to generate power to certain items..but I don't think I can. I also have a dual generator which I will hook up to a transfer switch to run items pertaining to water..mostly..hoping i never need it..I will only need this setup in winter...otherwise I will use my delta 2..delta mini and my river 2 max which I have 2..and I also own smaller bluetti power stations.. all bought for power outages..at times we lose power here. I have solar panels too..both rigid and portable..I am in the market for turntable s to work with my ecoflow products..I find it annoying trying to see the sides of the units..all on the front would be better..and worse is my bluetti eb55 that has a display which is useless almost..any suggestions are appreciated last power out 105 hours..only had a Go Labs and 4gb of data. Ty again for your video..very refreshing.
It powers the whole house if you buy 2 of the pro editions and expand it with there expandable battery's. You can have an electrician tie that into your box just like people do with a gas generator same concept. It all depends on how much you are willing to spend. For blackout I have a gas generator to charge my 2 solar generators if no sun also for added outlets if needed. I did not buy ecoflow because they are very overpriced. Save some money buy a pecron. No tracking apps and can take in 1300 watts of solar. You talk about charging fast. I like both solar and gas they compliment each other. I am not listening to the gas generator all night. Lol, By the way unless you brew coffee 24/7 it's not going deplete you battery very much. I have coffee every morning and afternoon it does nothing to my battery. I live in Fl. first thing to be unavailable gas and propane after storms and before. It's nice to have both. Yes I agree a lot of hype on it on youtube I found your video very refreshing because of your honesty. Someone just telling me what they think what a novel idea!!!
Thanks for your feedback and thanks for watching. You and I agree on the first point, but that's not the unit I purchased so its a moot point (albeit true). I agree on your point about the gas and propane being unavailable and comments like this help myself and other better prepare in their own situations, by learning from yours.
Great video cheers
Maybe now review it again when charging via the sun and alternator charger via car. Alternator one is a game changer
You can also use it while it charges
I have the Ecoflow Delta2 for just over a year. It is great for camping, running tools away from home, charging a bunch of mobile devices. It isn't very efficient at converting battery to AC. It also has a major flaw that its AC output is reversed polarity. So you really can't just have a simple 110v plug from your Gas furnace to keep the heat on a winter storm with a power outage. It requires that you flip the hot and neutral in the furnace, then to go bad to gid power, flip it back. Also a high efficiency gas furnace uses up to 600watts, so the Delta2 if wired compatible manner it didn't last 1 hour. the 75% efficiency really hurts it! What is really strange is that if you have it connected to AC for charging, the AC outputs show 50volts! Why? Charging off typical car 12v lighter plug, it only can charge at 95watts due to the typical car 12v circuits. Otherwise it is a great device for what it does, but don't compare it to a Delta Pro or the new Ultra.
There is no neutral. You're going to have 60 volts on both legs.
I love your attitude. You're not like the other money-grabbing and bought RUclipsrs!
Always the goal of this channel. Thanks for watching!
GREAT VIDEO thank you!!!
I just watched a bunch of ""sponsored"" video's and it looked fantastic... I'm still going to buy it and hope for the best...
I am buying it for a SHTF ... I have a 11KW whole house Generac generator ( for 7 years it's ran the whole house in emergencies... well pump..... oil fired hot water heater..... HUGE oil furnace.... fridge.... big screen TV ....microwave....and yes washer and dryer for several weeks at a time. in 4 big storms where power was out for weeks) I have a 1000 gallon underground propane tank... I also have three 330 gallon oil tanks in my cellar, total is 990 gallons...I use about 700 to 850 gallons of oil a year.... that oil heats my home and hot water.... and also powers my diesel tractors and my 15,000 watt PTO generator... I also have a back up 10,000 watt gasoline generator just in case.
for years I use a ton of fuel just to run the generator... once the house is warmed up to 80 and I've had my hot shower and the toilet tanks have refilled and I've made toast and scrambled eggs and bacon I can shut off the generator until I get ready for bed and have supper.... by then the house in 60 degrees.... but I need my refrigerator and a freezer chest to stay cold all day. ... I also need my CPAP machine to sleep for 8 hours a night....and hate wasting fuel to do it.... according to the other video's I can run my fridge for 20 to 30 hours.... and the CPAP machine easily for the 8 hours... the next day I will start my generator up again to reheat the house again and have another hot shower..... while I'm running the generator to do that I'll recharge the EcoFlow Delta 2 Max...... so I will only have to run my generator for a couple hours in the morning and maybe a couple hours in the evening...... saving lots of fuel.. so my 1000 gallons of propane might last a couple years if the Ecoflow keeps the fridge and CPAP machine going.
I'm also going to see how long it will run my furnace.... if it can run my furnace for several hours I will only have to run the generator to recharge the EcoFlow.... that would be awesome!!!!... probably only going to be a pipe dream... but it sounds good... the furnace fan has a start up draw of 16 amps... and the oil burner uses an other couple amps... so 18 amps times 120 volts = 2160 watts... we will see..... by the way ....not enough sun in Massachusetts to recharge with solar for 7 months out of the year..... this is porbably going to be a waste of money but thanks to you I am going in with my eyes open
Yes I agree with you about the placement of outlets even though I understand why they did it. My suggestion is whenever possible build a small shelf that pulls out. Easy to do and does not cost much. Your chicken coup is an excellent place for that. Going cheap will be about $25.00.
Good idea
10 months later, fantastic review, and agree 1000%.
What do you think of the new alternator connected device ?
Interesting idea. I haven't used it, nor have a use so I have no opinion on it.
Great review I like you give your honest opinion 👍
If you don't mind spending the money, the Hysolis Apollo has a detachable control screen that allows you to perform all local settings within Bluetooth distance. ... It is newer, has only been on the market, and not quite as tested as the Eco-Flow stuff.
I bought one 3 years ago plugged it in to my motorhome/rv and it burned out running tv fridge heater guess I expected too much, I did get a new one free and since then it's been fine for one appliance
Thanks for this, I was curious as to weather this could keep my refrigerator and freezer running for several days in a power outage. There was a sorry dearth of information on the website as to what it could and could not do. Your video gave me all the answers I needed. Kudos!
If I was in an emergency situation with this, yes it could, but I'd have it outside during the day, each day, to keep it full of electricity.
Absolutely can. Have an electrician wire a transfer switch and you can use whatever plugs you want like you’re on the grid (except high draw items)
@@TobyCostaRica would two 4-5 foot chest freezers be considered high draw - or high draw are item ie washing machines, vacuum cleaners, power saws? I am just starting to search and this was helpful - thank you. (would be nice if it could be our energy source to boondog in the RV)
@@ritashimniok1043 depends on the model. My washing machine is very efficient. Chest freezers, especially packed full don’t use much energy and are more efficient than refrigerators. You can look at the yellow tag and divide the annual kWh by 365 days to see how much power you use. But if I were to guess, the D2 Max would run 2 chest freezers 36-48hrs. With 1000 watts of solar you can run them forever most seasons depending where you live. I’m in Southern California and we have 300 days of sunshine so solar is a great option
Im buying for micro camper. Think it will work
I hope you have some good panels on your van, but stay away from the fake flexible monocrystal panels... Seriously use glass or cigs panels...
I bought my Ecoflo Delta 2 Max power station this month of December. I also bought an extra battery and panel but the Ecoflo was the one I bought first. It was installed on the 18th of December, 2024 but it has been tripping off. Can you help with your engineers to see to it
I use these specifically to provide power when there is an outage in the middle of a hurricane until I can get outside and hook up my generator to my panel.
Finally a non sponsored video on this product. It’s been impossible to avoid all those sponsored videos
Its what I aim for on this channel
This along with a 220watt solar panel for $1299 - black friday amazon. Good deal? Ecoflow site price is $100 higher. Buy now?
On black friday the price for that unit alone was $899 - the next day the price jumped waaay up to $1899!!! That's the MSRP?
That night i couldn't shake this bad feeling i had - and did not buy it. $1000 BF discount? Is that typical of companies to do that?!?
Question I have the same unit at my office grid cabin with 400w solar panels it seems the unit stops taking a solar charge after the sun goes down the next sunny day it will not auto charge I have to manually unplug and plug the solar cable in to get it to start charging again I’m wondering if you have to do the same in your chicken coop
Hey everyone...you ALL seem very knowledgeable about these battery stations so PLEASE help me pick out one! All i want to keep running in a power outage, is my large LG refrigerator. I did the math.. 20amps x 120 is 2400...SO..which Delta ecoflow should i purchase? They are expensive so i want to make a good choice. The Delta 2 max or the Delta Pro? Thanks!
Honestly? As big as you can afford is the best way. You won't regret having MORE power available. There is a link in the description to this particular unit if you decide on the D2M.
@JohnWCH THANK YOU so much for responding!!! I sent 3 emails to the support of the Delta and no one has responded yet! Thanks again!
You're absolutely right the marketing info would lead you to believe that this thing will power everything in your house. It's a consumer product that will run a few things when you're out tailgating or out camping. It doesn't have a lot of capacity you're not going to run power saws and drills all day long. You're going to be able to charge your phone run a few small things for a few hours. It's a great product don't get me wrong but it's just not for doing a lot of anything. Even with the extended battery you're not going to run a lot of things for any length of time. It's a great concept and a lot of people will buy it thinking that it's going to do a lot of different things. It'll get you by in a power outage running your router charging your phone maybe using your laptop for a while but that's about it.
Thanks for this video. Would it work to powercthe fridge during ourage and for how long?
If you power nothing else, the D2M should power the fridge for about 12 hours or so.
Thanks!
it's according to the frig..another reviewer got 30hrs as did a friend..newer frig use a lot less watts..
I love the fact that you said it’s not a generator. I completely cringe as well when I hear this, marketing BS. I’m going to subscribe just because of that comment alone.
That's the difference between an influencer whos paid vs me just a guy.
Just like a gas generator can’t produce energy without gas, a solar generator can’t produce energy without solar panels and solar, but with the added benefit of energy storage.
@@imnguyen6658 At the risk of being pedantic, the unit has a charge controller which is needed to allow the solar panel to charge the battery. But that controller is a voltage and current regulator, not a generator. So the Ecoflow Delta 2 is maybe a smart-battery-with-integrated-inverter-and-charge-controller, haha.
I agree, I just just did for the same reason.
Thank you. This is very insightful.
Glad it was helpful!
I don't have this unit specifically but I have 2 others similar and I don't like how you can set up the device to the settings you want but then on e you close out of the settings or take the device out of the network the settings revert back to factory. Kinda makes having the controls worthless since they won't stay programed. I say this because I do use it in a small off grid setting and my generator won't fast charge it because of output so it's a problem the settings don't stay where I want them to. So I have to bring the device home because of this so thats something that is important to know
That's not optimal at all
Thx for making this video. Im thinking I would build a small tray with wheels for easier turning to access both faces like when in a shelf you built.
Quick spin quick access would be a possible option. Cheers !
That's a great idea!
I liked your video. What I got out of it was what I feel was honest and straight forward.
The only thing "app-reluctant" folks like me and the guy you mention, can't utilize without the app - is the Xboost, which I could live without. Firmware? It can be got online. This unit has an onboard update mode - just have to be sure and format your flash drive to FAT32.
I don't want this unit anywhere near the internet!
Say, does your window AC have one of the newer varible speed inverter compressors? That style AC would seem to be more conducive to use with this, or any generator really, yeah?
Good video! However, what do you need settings or an app for on a 'battery'? Having tried many configurations to see if I could get non 'generator' backup batteries to charge from solar panels (doesn't work w/out a charge controller) I think that the circuitry converting solar ('fuel') to electric energy, and regulating it's (electricity) use, that is how I define the term 'solar generator' vs. just a storage battery.
Fair enough. And the settings that are on the app are uhhhh all of them. Xboost on/off, timeouts, firmware updates, charge limits, smart generator limits, etc.
Thanks for the great honest review.
Just stumbled onto you.. Excellent review. I've been looking for a SHTF solar generator to operate just 1 unit.. a 900 watt air conditioner in the summer intermittently when roasting in the Texas heat.(squeezing into one room)
Was thinking about adding the extra battery and 2 of the 400-watt solar panels to charge it. Got more thinking to do. It's been so hard to figure out which one could be best...the solar charging has me all confused. Thanks for the review.
I can tell you this, after a few months of daily use, do yourself a favor and figure out the MOST/LARGEST solar panels you can buy. Solar charging, in an shtf situation, would be an impossible task with the setup they sell. Think recharge times north of 19 hours with a 220w panel. The suns only up for 12 in winter at best and certainly not usable to charge, etc. Good luck!
I use 3 panels on each port wired in series, 220w biracial, and 2-100w rigid. 1 extra battery and it charges in 9 hrs for me. In Nebraska.
5:55 That comment really doesn't make sense because the plugs will be connected to the front and back anyways and those plugs will stick out
True
Decent review and video. You are who you are. While you are correct in that unit on your table being a Battery it is really a micro processing controlled Energy Storage Unit that is part of an Energy Generating System. effectively making it a Generator (when all the pieces are in place). That is why they call it what they do. I bought Two, $900 each for Emergency usage. One lives in my shop to power a 21 cf refrigerator when we lose service and it will power that fridge for 24 - 30 hours depending on the season. The other in our living space to power TV, entertainment, communications, and a lamp so I'm not sitting in the dark with just a candle burning when the service goes out. They have their purpose and usage's. Every contractor should have one on their trucks. Outdoorsman, campers, hunters even guys with chicken coupes ! You can figure how long it will run something by doing the math with the watts a certain item will draw.
How do you add an extra battery for more amps? Is it a simple connection or is disassembly needed?
The batteries have a special outlet on the side; the special batteries have no other outlets. That corresponding battery comes with a special cable that connects between the main unit (via a special outlet as well) and that battery. Some models accommodate two such batteries. No disassembly of anything is needed; they just plug together via the special cable.
Is it still going good now today?
To it's credit, no issues at all. Use it ALL the time.
I have the same item. The thing that bothered me about this unit is that the functions is on the side. It should've been in the front. Making it remind me of a old computer case, where things are on the sides. But this is not a computer case. This is something you are going use as a power bank. So you constantly need to access to the plugs and USB and installation just make sense with the widest point against the wall.
Exactly
Does it have a 3 prong outlet to run tv and things, i didnt see one in it?
Thx for the insightful review. I totally agree with your assessment… one quibble, it’s 120v/240v though people do tend to say 110v/220v … just sayin
One quibble...You guys are running out of things to try to knock me on at this point.
@@JohnWCH indeed, insightful video … but wasn’t trying to knock you down … as a Brit, I didn’t understand at first what 110v power was …. Voltage tolerance between 220v and 240v has been a topic of discussion here over the years but Google has all the answers so just keep saying 110/220v - even someone as dense as me will figure it out 😂😂😂
I'm interested in this because an ecoflow pro is 3.6kwh and the delta2 is 2kwh and with an extra battery is another 2kwh so you can have 4kwh that is more easily portable than the delta pro
I really enjoyed your honesty about review this product.
Thanks for watching!
I saw this come up on Amazon Days at a great price bundled with a 400W panel. Glad I got it. Along with my 2 - 2000W Yamahas I'm pretty secure. Grid down is my biggest fear and I feel better having the Ecoflow
Useful video, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
You can actually live on delta 2 power station with Sun panels. And generator to charge on not sunny days. Good refrigerator use like 8,2 watt hour. 72kwh a year. And this for around 349 dollars. But if you want hott water tank. Cooking and heat. Then nope. Fire wood warmth. Cooking if saved enough energy or Should have an invertere generator as a backup to charge it up. For a single man. Examble monitor around 23 watt/H . Refrigerator 5-15 watt. Pc 35-100watt maybe. So for that type very useful. A bitt dissapointed about solar charge. But not tested on very clear day. But for my wanted use PC, monitor, refrigerator, sometimes cooking. Invertere generator backup. Solar 220w panels. It works okay
Everyone's experience is going to be different on a number of factors. Sounds like you have also everything dialed in; save for a few more solar panels.
how much power needed in van lites , small refrig, ac 8 hrs cook stove fan water pump ect
About what this unit provides.
While I appreciate your review and you're honest approach to giving the information of the product I believe you're missing the entire point of it. You seem to refrain from doing any research on how the product functions. In the photo you showed during the portion where you said that this will not power your home the battery is hooked to what is called a critical loads panel which is used to connect four or five 110v circuits to a backup power source. During the portion of the video where it says it will only run your coffee pot for 2 hours that is if you were making coffee for 2hours straight not just leaving it plugged in. And I do agree that this is not a shtf solution but for your average in need of short term power during a outage or for a portable power solution i think it is a perfect product.
I respectfully disagree on your first point. I'm well aware of how this unit works. And if I'm going to the trouble of hooking up a transfer switch (critical loads panel as you called it), id get a Pro not a D2M. It doesn't have the watts to last long enough. But in the end we agreed; its not a SHTF solution but its a great portable power solution. I drag this thing around WAY more than I thought I would. I use it ALL the time, but it wouldn't be the first thing I thought of if the power went out.
Mine works flawlessly in powering my critical needs in case the grid goes down. Powers my big refrigerator up to 17 hours and lights, TV , and internet. Coupled with the 400 watt solar panels and extra expansion battery you can definitely live for a few days off the grid.
What about America's favorite attribute - Planned Obsolescence? They build a battery with a 10 year lifespan? Which component will wear out in 6 months?
I loved your review especially the reason why the outlets are in the back??? Go figure
You covered air conditioning - what about heat if power goes out in winter?
I have a heat pump same machine/same physics, just in reverse.
Great review brother, I’ve noticed some of these come with various KWh outputs. I’m wondering if this model could run a 500 BTU window A\C unit with that generator?
No doubt!
I run a 5000btu ac in my camper with it. The ac uses 400watts when the compressor runs, but the fan is always on drawing 40 watts. So I cool things off at night then power the air conditioner off and run an USB fan.
Just a thought about the handles......they are perfect for me cause I am a small female and the 27 lbs is a lot for me so the handles make it easier for me to move it around.
The handles definitely make it easier
72 cents per Wh if on sale is really good. The major pitfall for me is not being able to use solar and charging from the alternator at the same time.
Do you mean solar and AC wall charging at the same time?
@@JohnWCH it can charge with AC power and solar at the same time. What it can’t do is charge from solar and a van/rv cigarette lighter because they both share the same port. Major fail for people in vans or RVs. Also, it doesn’t have the DC output to keep up with a diesel heater, very common for people in vans and RVs. Those heaters draw too many amps at startup to use the cigarette lighter output, or the Anderson clips on the Pro. Another major failing. Other than that it’s a great. So maybe it is a semi pro. I waste some power using an inverter from my diesel heater. I am also considering a way to join the solar and cigarette lighter wires to both feed the single port.
Here in the UK we use 240v 50 Hz so I guess the ones sold over here are set up for our power levels.
Don’t like the bit you said about 20% min, 80% max that means if its a 10 hour run time its suddenly become a 6 hours device, bit like our Tesla, supposed to have a 330 mile range but as we shouldn’t charge over 80% thats just reduced its range to 264 mile range, then we shouldn’t let it get below 20% state of charge so now its a 198 mile range vehicle, not quite what they said when we bought the car !.
I really enjoyed your video, looking to buy a battery unit to run our Caravan rather than using the camp site power, we can charge on cheap overnight at home then use it all on-site, maybe look at solar charging too although here in the UK we don’t get much sun….if they ever make panels that run on rain we will be all set to go !
I have a delta 2 max and extra battery but it does not change when connected to the generator. Do you know why ?
Nice rant - I mean review. I kinda agree with most points, the entire battery industry is trying to push their products as something they are not.
It's so bad that many are actively trying to hide the parameters. Watt-hours, that's that? It will charge your phone 20 times and that's all you need to know.
I'm looking at one retailer right now, it only reports a 2-6kWh expandable capacity. I have to read the manual to see what is the actual capacity.
2048 Watt-hours. That means you can run one 100W light bulb for 20 hours. But wait...
You should only charge it up to 80% and discharge it to 20%. So you lose 40% just following good practice.
The rest is roughly 1200 WH, which is great for camping. But as a home backup, it'll mostly be used to run the TV waiting for the power to come back. Or run the sump pump during a storm.
It is OK for what it does, but it is a doesn't do what it's advertised to.
I figured this would be great to run the ecoflow portable a/c unit when I use my Suburban as a camper in Arizona for 3 months a year. I'll have 400 watts solar on the roof to keep things charged along with a Predator 5000. As long as the lil a/c thingy works, I'll be set :)
no doubt
how long will this run a dometic electric cooler,a cell phone & iPad for a 5 day camping trip without needing to be charged
no idea. Get all the running watts, add them up and then see where it puts you.
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Your video is the most honest video that I ever watched. Not getting paid and the unit is great but won’t run anything for a long period as they make us believe. The battery is a great item. Great video thank you 🙏 🇺🇸
I appreciate that!
How long does it take to recharge using a standard wall outlet at 15amps?
About an hour, give or take your starting point.
Hey great video. Can you test that w a space heater?
I dont own one.
space heater draw a lot of juice..not an option for more than an hour or two tops..
Could this model work strictly with a sump pump?
If it's a 120v pump, then sure it'll run it.
Love the video ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for watching!
Hey as a man I love cool things that are practical, with that said and typed I am in the market to buys the Eco Delta 2. Using it daily, outdoors, including our food trailet. Thanks for the review.
There's a link in the description for this exact unit. However on the Amazon store you can look around for one that may suit your needs bigger or smaller. They are great units. Working for me great so far.
Great review!
Thank you for watching!
you're suppose to be able to charge LFP batteries to 100% without any negative effect to the battery's longevity.
Hay Boomer here .And yes you're right I wouldn't know the first thing about how to use this.i would need very simple instructions. If fact just looking at it confused me. That's why I'm watching RUclips videos.😃 So thanks for your video very informative.
Right on
I want to see the VOLTAGE under various loads with a voltage tester or kilowatt meter. If the voltage drops below 117 volts under full load, I call that a failure.
Looking to charge my harley triglide battery ' bought a 600watt unit kept tripping due to surge. Im in uk so different plug power.
This would work
You are so right.. no details.. I thought I'd get solar panels with the solar power (generator)batter
The off and on button 🔘 on the generator isn't working