The two tubes vs one tube, is to remove the negative pressure from and pulling the heat from outside into the van. Two tubes, you wouldn't get that negative pressure. It also cools better and more effective. It's the like a dual hose portal AC you put in houses. It also uses that exhaust to expel that vapor it removes too, so it's more efficient on getting that water outside instead of draining (in the cooling mode).
sorry but you're very wrong. It will absolutely not cool better by pulling hot air from out side and cooling it down. Turn your cars ac off recycle and see how well it works compared to with it on. An ac is always gonna cool more efficiently by recycling the air it's already cooled down so it doesn't have to work nearly as hard.
@c90adventures there isn't gonna be negative pressure with one tube cause it's then just recycling the air in the car you know like a window unit or house unit does and youre car also does this , if anything maybe a little positive pressure. Try turning off the recycle in your car in the heat of the summer it won't work very well at all compared to it on recycle.
@@WickedWaysfpv7087 I think you've just massively misunderstood how these work. If there's only one tube, and it's blowing air out of the car, there has to be negative pressure inside the car, simple physics. Normal car AC on recirc works like a two tube AC system. But here's a good video by Technology Connections showing why single pipe air conditioners are terrible, to help you understand it if you still need help. ruclips.net/video/_-mBeYC2KGc/видео.htmlsi=EP3XGmNSbNtChdyp
Great video! I bought one last year for our 2006 Toyota sienna minivan and it works really well on a single hose, exhaust discharge only. I did this because of space saving and knew that if it did not work, I would just have to add the other hose. But that would take up more space, which we don’t have much of. Of course eco-mode works the longest but if you’re at 100° F, you’re going to use a lot of power. For the size vehicle we are in it heats and cools quickly. I will usually put it on max to get it heated up or cooled down quickly and then switch over to Eco mode to save the battery as long as possible. I bought the 1159 W battery and glad I did. You are not going to be running this on Max in a Texas summer and expect it to last all night. It will last about two hours on max at that temperature. We don’t stay in Texas in the summertime and head to the mountains, where it works really well too cool or heat. My ship battery is a 200 amp hour lithium but I try not to tap into that until the EcoFlow battery is drained. I like the app also. It’s nice not to have to get out of bed and just reach for your phone to change the temps. Pros: It works really well in a minivan size area. Nice app with a Bluetooth interface. Heavy but portable, almost 50 pounds with the battery. Cons: It’s a power hog! Expensive. Takes up some space. I am definitely glad I bought one and would not be able to survive some of the summer nights we spent that were warm traveling last summer. If I had it to do all over again on my minivan build, I would get a 300 or 400 amp hour lithium instead of a 200 amp hour battery. At the time of my minivan build, I didn’t realize I was going to need one of these units! Cheers!🤘
I am in the States too. I am learning as I go. I bought the Eco wave 2 , the battery and Delta 2 because I have four dogs with me as well. They have to stay warm and cool as needed when I am not in the van, plus of course I need to be able to Boondock when necessary. I have to get a window board now, and a dehumidifier . Any advice? I'm listening!
@@kristykristine8657 If you have the room, install both hoses. The EcoFlow will dehumidify a small area like a minivan so you might try that first to see if it works for you. We do a lot of Boondocking also so just make sure you have a big battery bank(s) and plan for those cloudy days. And of course window coverings are an essential item. Keep that sun out in the summer and the heat in in the winter.
Almost no one in van life across youtube has an AC unit, just some max air fan for "airflow." Man, I live in Florida, if any of them came down here, they'd die, flat out. xD
Humidity and air pressure is why you want 2 tubes. Any hot air pushed out will cause outside air to be sucked in through any tiny gap - these things work best when you have neutral static air pressure between the inside and outside of the vehicle, and with 2 hoses you cool and ***most importantly*** dehumidify all incoming air, as the humidity drop has a massive effect on how cool it *feels* compared to the measured temperature. If you're testing AC and not measuring humidity then you're not really measuring how humans feel heat correctly as a 5c drop in 40c heat would be unnoticeable if the humidity stays high, but feel very pleasant if the air in the cabin is much dryer.
I use my Wave2 at home. Last winter I used it for heat. Now it’s summer and I use it to cool. I have my wave2 sitting on a cart with wheels. I tried it hooked directly to solar panels and that works fine but now I power it with my home solar power station. I only vent the exhaust tube out a window. It’s not necessary to vent the inlet tube. The condensation drainage works fine. I run it all day then empty the bucket in the evening.
recirculating cooled air is how most domestic mains Aircon units work, there is no air drawn from outside. Vehicle aircon usually feeds fresh air instead, but on really hot days, you've probably noticed that setting it to recirculate cools the car faster.
@@urbanarkoverland There is a button on our vehicles that says "RECIRC" to close off the outside vents and recirculate the cooler cabin air. You are doing it right. South Texas near the humid bay and that's the way its done.
Understanding AC is often confusing. Ecoflow is quite useful as it is a true split portal ac. Most portable ac use an electric vaporizer like LG first did. Means switching between cooling and then venting moisture. So non split ac can’t constantly cool. Humidity is big factor in cooling. The traditional window unit ac has the compressor and radiator/heat exchanger on the outside. Any excess water just drips off to the outside. Meanwhile the fan usually pulls inside air which is cooled over the radiator then blown back into the room. Some units have an option to pull the outside in. Portable unit tend to be a single hose as they non split. So the exhaust and input tend come on one hose, which cool only half the time. It’s lot less efficient. If unit had dehumidifier mode, it would need a drip hose or after running for awhile the water trip test fills up and shutdown the unit. EcoFlow is really awesome as it a true split ac. Depend on how you set the hose and flow plates you can control where it input air and where it exhausts air. Note for off grid real ac cooling the unit does require the portable battery pack, otherwise it in fan only mode. It’s best mini portable ac currently produce. Between a generator or battery bank or Solar to its mini battery pack or ac plug. You got many options for any place. Vans. tents. Outside events. Room needing some extra cooling. It’s expensive. But worth it for its size and functionality.
Seems like you could create a cabinet for it to live and cut dedicated ports for inflow/airflow. If your trip doesn't require AC, have some port hole covers and leave it at home for more storage.
Yes maybe you could. But the idea is it’s portable. Not a fixed entity. By the time the tubes come off the back and the top. The cupboard would be quite large. There are other fixed units available that take up less space. But are permanent and require ducts throughout. 👍🏻
It took me a while to understand but it‘s true, the 2 tubes is always better than a one tube setup. What can be deceiving is the idea that with one tube the AC is getting colder faster because it is sucking already cold air in. But this is a deception and is not actually giving you a better result. The fact is, that air needs to be sucked into the AC and if the air comes from the inside of the room/car, then a negative pressure will develop and air will come into the room somehow, and that air will always be the hot air from the outside. So with the one tube, the air might feel colder faster, but the hot air will come into the room and the net result will be less efficiency compared to a two tube system. There is two reasons why the two tube system is better: firstly, if the one tube system is actually taking the cold air, then its taking that cold air away form the already colder room and some of it will be expelled again, and warm air will leak into the room. Secondly, the AC is creating that negative pressure and actually has to work harder to suck air out of the room, the more negativity it creates, therefore it has to use more energy to create the same results. In a two tube system, there will always be a pressure balance, and hot air will only come into the AC, never directly into the room. The AC then is well equipped to convert that warm air into cold air and expellees the rest out. Creating a more energy efficient cycle. I guess the main takeaway is that with an AC hot air will always come inside the room, but it is better to channel this hot air through the AC that is equipped for this and then keep a neutral balanced pressure with the room that it cools down. I hope that helped. It took me a while to understand myself. Cheers!
You need both hoses for the best efficiency.There are two fans in the unit. The back of the unit should suck air from the outside then blow it back outside. The front fan will suck air in from the from, hear it then blow it back into the van. when you use one hose you will be sucking the heated air into the unit then back outside while cold air comes back in through gaps in the van.
We had it including the battery but sold it in the end. 5000 BTU for cooling and very weak fans to push cool air out were the reason for us getting rid of it. Staying in the shade and have windows open does more that this little thing ever could. With that said, is was practical due to it's size but very heavy, especially together with the additional battery.
@@urbanarkoverland hahaha, yeah...for some reason it came up in my feed and I thought I might do someone else a favor by taming their expectations of what this unit can do. It's definitely not completely useless but if you are planning on using it in a country like Spain/Italy summer time then you might as well forget about it.
It is a heat pump! Not an AC. You must vent the “B” side (the back side of the unit) to outside air. If you don’t do this the B side will will pull conditioned interior air from the cabin and exhaust it outside. This will create a negative pressure in your cabin and pull in un conditioned air into the space.
I'm English too, moved to Australia in 1999. Last year I purchased a block of land in a remote inland area, and I have made a big concrete slab. This year (God willing) I'll buy a single-roomed cabin, which I will get craned onto the slab. I'm thinking of getting one of these eco-flow AC systems, as for 3 months out of every year its baking hot. I'm thinking of just asking the cabin manufacturers to make a cat-flap, so I'll just put the outlet through that! Thanks for the advise of not worrying about the inlet, - it makes sense not to be sucking in hot air from outside.
Yehhhh a small hate pump isn't a replacement for another heating soruce which doesn't require electicity and can work even work well when it's -15C, It's a nice addition so that overnight you can leave it running with less fear that it will start a fire or poison you and it uses your solar pannels so if you have spare elecrisity it is nice to be able to use a heat pump, and obviously during the summer it's nice to be able to not fry and in that application you are going to be getting plenty of solar to run it assuming you have like 600 - 800W of solar you can almost run it 24/7 because it will on average draw more like 200 - 300W because it will turn off and on as the tempeture flucutates.
@rodbtelenetbe it's a good unit but struggled to cool our 6-man tent in full sun at outside temp of 30*C and a shade sail fitted over tent. It's probably not suitable for that application. I used 2 tubes; drawing air from outside as recommended. The inside tube also got very wet with condensation (not the condenser water, we ran that via the drain tube to outside the tent).
Works well enough, achieved 15 degree difference (which felt cool inside the square drop trailer-in the shade, the lowered humidity helped a lot too) in 95F and 80% humidity weather here in Florida. I was also running two small USB powered fans to circulate the cooler air. My main complaint is not being able to mechanically/manually set the unit to external drainage. Every time the unit shuts down the drainage is reset to internal, which in turn shuts down the unit when really full, which happens a heck of a LOT here in Florida. The hoses, being proprietary sizes are also a PITA to hook up to anything commonly used in small trailers. The Wave 2 was outside the small square drop due to space issues, I also wish the company made a raincoat for the unit.....
28.years doing ac recirculation only will make ac smelly and contact strip down cleaning. Use the one hole extract from condenser as you have done then put the window vent they do in other window with no hose connected so fresh air is sucked from window vent into ac so u getting some fresh air and not too much heat being sucked in unlike the massive fresh air hose they want you to fit next to discharge heat so sucks heat back in when just taken it out 😆
Lots of people on here not understanding how air conditioners / recycling works. The tube in / tube out system is a loop of air. This does the "cooling." Then a second loop (front vents) sucks in air from inside the room, runs it across something cool (made from the other loop) and blows it back into the room. Using 1 tube is not "recycling" or "recirculating" the air. This ALREADY HAPPENS through the front vents. Yes, using one tube would mean pulling in cooler air, to "cool down" on the tube loop, but also yes it will force air to be pulled in from all the cracks etc. of the van because of negative pressure. It's basic physics. Again, the "recirculating" is done on the FRONT end, and as the vehicle cools, it will mean it's pulling in cooler and cooler air to be recirculated. This is completely separate from the loop that the tubes are hooked up to. It's why an AC in your house has the condenser on the outside and evaporator separately, and only refrigerant tubes (not air tubes) run into your house. You wouldn't want to take the exhaust from your home AC unit and pump it back into the house. The air is RECIRCULATED inside your house through a SECOND loop which takes air inside your house, runs it over the chilled elements inside, cooling it, then spitting it back out into your house. You do not take air from outside the house, cool it, and blow it inside. All the air exchange happens completely outside of your house, and it's only refrigerant which runs through your walls. 2 loops. Same as the ecoflow. I'm sorry to have to say it, but one problem he has in this video is saying "well I saw a guy on youtube say it's fine, so it must be fine," and then essentially add his own voice to the chorus of bad / misinformation. That's just bad practice. Mfr. says to do it one way "but some guy on youtube who has a fancy logo and makes branded merch said not to" just isn't a smart way to do things.
Thanks for pointing this out. So, the question is, are there conditions in which it is advantageous to draw the exhaust loop air from inside the vehicle? I see, potentially, a situation where the temperature outside is, say, 80ºF and relatively dry but the solar heating in the vehicle is extreme. After running for a while, even with the exhaust intake in the vehicle, the air in the vehicle should be cooler than the air outside. Let's say the interior temperature is 70ºF with a target of 65ºF. Now, as the unit runs, it is bringing ~70º air into both the cooling and exhaust sides. As it does this, it is "sucking" 80º air into the vehicle at the same rate it is exhausting air to the outside. So there's a battle to further cool the current air while also bringing in warmer air. But, the cooler air running over the coils should make the cooling (exhaust) process more efficient, potentially prolonging battery life, and, since the compressor is inside the vehicle, it will lower the temperature inside the unit which does radiate some heat into the vehicle. I wonder if there's a temperature/humidity combination where a line can be drawn to determine when it's better to draw exhaust air from inside the vehicle vs. outside. Another factor is the volume of air going through each loop. If the volume used to cool/exhaust the unit is lower than the volume being cooled and recirculated back into the vehicle, there would be more advantage to keeping the exhaust intake in the vehicle. This could be accomplished through variable speed fans or louvers that adjust flow with temperature. Humidity throws another wrench into the equation as no one wants swamp air pulled into their camper.... If you come across any info/calculations on this, I'd be interested.
@@cbsammons I totally understand your question because it “makes sense” if you still misunderstand AC. It’s like this - There is always a flow of super hot air in and colder air out. If you pull it from “inside” the car, fresh air has to come from somewhere, so it’ll seep in through all the windows. It needs to be hot on one side and cold on the other or the entire thing will freeze. I suppose during that time, sucking in cooler air from outside (95 inside the car, 80 outside) has a side effect of also sucking 95 degree air out of the car…. What you’re saying makes sense. But it’s basically a really expensive way of just rolling the windows down. The logic seems backward I know. It’s like with a wood burning stove. A wood stove potentially makes the rest of your house colder because cold air from outside the house is being pulled in through the seams in the windows etc. and super-heated in the fireplace, going right up the chimney. So the very best place for a “vent” for a wood burning stove is right underneath it. A stream of super cold air from outside will rush in, be heated, rush out. A BYPRODUCT is that the stove gets hot and radiates heat. It can be improved by putting a fan by the hot fireplace. It’s the same concept as the two loops of the AC. I hope that analogy helps and doesn’t just make it more confusing hahah.
if you have a van you get a mini split and save a grip. More effective too. My Wave2 barely cools the interior of my small asf Lexus GX470 interior even with it parked in shade and the windows shielded. Granted California is not the UK The tubes really bite. The heater function produces tons of water so better figure out how to drain it.
Car air-conditioning works better and cooler with inside recycled mode on yep keep recycling the cool air , only one pipe out side to exhaust the heat the shorter the better even put more insulation raping around the pipe 👍 with heating tho them cheap Chinese diesel heaters are the go very cheap and economical to run best off both worlds , coming from Australia 🇦🇺 where we can get freezing cold nights then mega hot days in a 24 hour session its bloody crazy mate 👍
basically its like those portable home AC’s. portable home ACs are the least efficient compared to window type and split type. but at the end of the day its better than nothing. i think we just have to think around it like insulating the exhaust hose, insulating the vehicle etc. i saw someone with an insulated swag inside a tent - basically the ecoflow cools the swag and the tent is another micro environment but protects the swag and ecoflow from the elements.
You need to use both hoses. Otherwise you are throwing your conditioned air outside. This is pulling in outside air anywhere your van will allow air in due to negative pressure (little gaps, gaps any little space).
thanks for video. answered a few questions for me many thanks. I work away a lot, and spend lot of time on sides living and working from my van ( a 2018 LWB Vivaro) I have been trying to decide between a Wave 2 or a Deisel heater??? I had also thought about the Truma under bench internal box Air con / heater. my main worry was power. most of the time i have acess to Generators on sites. but not always. but as this does heating and cooling. and is portable.. maybe this is the best way for me to go.
I have a deisel heater.. just need to install/ set it up. Was watching your video where you put it under the body in the VW.. think maybe thats way i should of gone?? Guess i still could..but the heater i got is an all in one unit. So wont fit under van.. just need to sort air in and exhaust out.. and 12 /24vlt power. Sadly not done as im away ( where need it most lol) but my tools are back home.. so unable to sort mods on/in van at moment.
Ok I bought one, I luv it, but wanted to ask you has your external battery usb failed ever. My usb has recently failed on the external battery for some reason. Plus side is the aircon is amazing, my extra battery Pac lets me run it on a cool eco mode for up 99hrs. It’s great on full mode when plugged in and does work with battery on full but not much battery for that so we use eco mode which switches between both and conserves power. I am so pumped on this it really is amazing!
So the consensus is that you don’t need to pull outside air for intake. Just vent the one exhaust hose and always pull from within the van? Curious on this lol. Thanks mate.
Enjoyed your video, however I am not sure I understood about the template you showed placed in the window, where did you get that, or how did you make it ?
There are 4 vents on that thing. the front bottom has a filter and sucks in the air that gets cooled and then blown out the top front vent. The back bottom vent sucks air in that gets heated up and then vented out the top back vent. By sucking up the air in the back using the cooled air from inside, you are just wasting your energy as you are basically blowing your cooled air right outside. Edit: However, this could be useful on hot days where the outside temp is above some temp, I believe it's 105 degrees F, I don't know what that is in C.
I don’t understand the point you are trying to make. You never blow cool air out the van. If you use two pipes. One sucks in fresh air and the other is an exhaust that rids the hot air created in the energy transfer
@@urbanarkoverland The AC works with two loops connected by a heat exchanger. One loop draws in air to get heated up and then spit out. The other loop draws an air to get cooled down and then spit out. This means that the air that gets sucked in through the back does not get blown out through the vent in the front. So if you're sucking in air from inside your van through the back of the AC, that air is getting heat up and blown out the van through the exhaust. This would mean that eventually you're just heating up the air that you've already cooled down.
@@VincentHarrydragonphire It's worse because only blowing out creates a negative pressure within the vehicle which causes the outside air to find a way into the vehicle and heating it up. You'll only have cool air at the vent never more than that.
Great video! I'm strongly considering investing in one. Looking at the internal battery, 100% see what you're saying, but value for money wise an additional fogstar 280ah battery will cost about the same, but 3 times the capacity. Yes it means running the inverter at 85% losses, but still you're better off. The one thing I'm considering is having permanent ducts connected with proper outlets but can't see anyone doing this. Just trying to figure out the best way. Obviously the sides will have a lot of air movement while the van is in motion. The back would be better but I'm concerned that the run will be too far to reach the cab on a LWB sprinter. Would the floor be a good option do you think?
Can’t test every scenario dude. But a battery will last 8 hours. 👍🏻
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Let me guess, probably doesn’t fit between the transporter/multivan front seats, right? Where would be the best place to have this on the Multivan with the original bench/bed?
Living in SoCal, this unit is a must, I set it to 64 and the battery lasts 4 hours, plugged into the Jackery 2000, another 4 hours. 400w of solar works good. Peace
Great video, I had not considered running just one tube out. The EcoFlow Wave 2 has four air intakes and outlets; two at the front, and two at the back. The lower ones draw air in, while the upper ones expel it again. So with this setup aren't you taking some of the cold air in the back and sending it back out?
Surprised you have been able to run it for so long without the drain pipe and app setting switched on, what a joy when run without that and then move the unit to get covered in water 🤣 other than that i think it’s a great bit of kit.
@@bodhicurtis-gp7xs because it’s soooo variable. If I used it on battery at 22 degrees with a target temperature of 18 in a very well insulated van and I don’t once open the door. It could last 24 hours right. Then you go buy one. It’s 26 degrees. You have a target temp of 18 degrees. It never reaches temperature nuts working extra hard because you open the door 5 times in the night letting all the heat back in. And your vehicle has next to no insulation. It won’t last any where near the amount of time. You get straight on to me and tell me the battery isn’t nearly as good as I said it was….
Nice one, been looking at these for cooling and heating. Amazing lasted that long on the battery, as you say testing is way too changeable but that gave me a idea of what could be. The 2 ports in and out, see what your saying but then you moving about the same air. I know van not air tight but yeah just wondering and thinking about that. But then would use more battery because conditioning the warmer humid air. Good product by the sounds of it, I like EcoFlow stuff good quality, works, app is good. Just bit more pricey, like the claymore battery save & spend bit extra and get good quality is my thoughts. Thanks 👍🏼
@@samhartfieldlewis5247 ha ha. Ye although we been having some hot spells and few times I wish I could offer ac for my boy in his bedroom to be honest.
Hey mate, Great vid, I’m In Australia and do a lot of camping in a small hard top, roof top tent, very interested to know how much power it draws as I would like to hard mount it in my canopy, or are there other options out there that are more efficient for a smaller space and better suited for hard wiring ? It must be super efficient so I can run it, along with all my other gear on my 400amp setup Cheers Zac
Great video! About to buy and it would cost me about 2k'ish USD with two batteries already. On eco mode, how many hours can you run it? I am planning to run it inside my SUV montero sports. Thank you!
@@urbanarkoverland thank you! The space in my van is a little bit smaller than yours, and I plan on buying two batteries. Would it be better if I buy deltamax instead of batteries? Because the delta pro has at least 3500 charging cycles whereas the batteries only have 650.Thank you!
Great review as always, after MVT weekend, how good is it for heating? I’m looking at getting one for my Transporter as main heating for the winter and it’s been hard to find anyone that’s actually commented on real world heating.
Hmmm. Awesome. But doesn’t last a great amount of time. What about a diesel heater. The heating is a benefit I would use say. If you are going to be hooked up then it’s a fantastic option. Drop me an email
@@urbanarkoverlandthat is not how recirculation works in a car. There are is an evaporator and condenser in the ecoflow. One in the front and one in the back. The one in the front is recirculating the air in the van all the time. The way you have is set up is sucking your heated air into the unit and blowing it outside. It's not really debatable. That is a fact. You will loose efficiency the way you are doing it.
If running the unit INSIDE, then BOTH TUBES must exhaust OUT. The tubes are therefore cooling the COMPRESSOR so the AC in front runs efficiently. They are not there to pull in outside air so that it is “converted” to cold. That’s not how HVACS work amigo!
Two hoses. One hose is like pushing out your cool and dry air out and replacing it with warm humid air, as other have pointed out through negative pressure.
Thanks for posting. Fellow Sprinter owner. I like how the unit fits nicely between the seats. I also know you are a fan of the cabbunks. Have you used this with the cab bunks? I am concerned there might not be room for the intake/exhaust hoses with the cabbunks installed.
@@urbanarkoverland €900 airco and €700 for the battery, just too much for me particularly, if you can get away with it, more power to you my brother, 😎🖖🖖
not sure why it's controversial about it recycling the cold air already inside instead of pulling air from out side and cooling it. Look at your cars it's always gonna get way colder recycling the air already in the car. Turn recycle off on the car and the air will immediately get warmer
@@WickedWaysfpv7087 there are so many variables it’s hard to test. As soon as you open the door all the heat is gone and you start again. If you use eco mode it will def last the night on heat 👍🏻
Charges from 12v at 8A (96W), 1100WH battery takes 11.5hours to fully charge. Van 200AH 12V battery, 2400WH, can charge ecoflow battery twice without recharge. Van charges at 22A 12v (2x160W panels) solar midday sun. 2014 Hiace with two side, one front, one back window. Fully insulated. Test 1. 35C degree day, van in full sun, insulated exhaust duct and window coverings, plugged into 12V socket no other fan on but both front windows slightly cracked open for fresh air. 8AM start on economy 26C, van temp 26C, 100% battery 9AM still on economy, van temp 28C, 86% battery 10AM switched to manual 23C, van temp 30C, 80% battery 10:30AM manual 23C van temp 31C 68% battery 11:30AM manual 20C, van temp 29C 48% battery 12:30PM manual 20C, van temp 28C, 28% battery 01:30PM manual 20C, van temp 29C, 10% battery 02:00PM end. 6 hours while plugged into 12V, average temp 30C on 35C day, 280W average usage (1100WH ÷ 6H + 96W 12V charge). Not exactly much good off-grid in a heat wave. Maybe with a generator to power it, or you could wire solar panels in parallel to charge at 48V 8A (which the unit will take up to 60V dc at 8A, see "Hobotech" on yt) to power it while the sun is shining. Either that or use your inverter assuming you have big battery capacity and a means to recharge it,
I have subscribed to see your opinion and final thought on this one,as im looking into buying one this year and you owning one will know best @@urbanarkoverland
Setting an air conditioner to 16’C is absurd. Not many aircons can work properly at 16’C. 22’C would have probably made the van cooler because the a/c would be humming along!
An Englishman doing a review on an air conditioner he bought to heat his van ?? Might be relevant for the British people but for people who come from areas that have serious, prolonged heat (Australia) it’s probably just a laugh .
@@MarkusRene thanks for your comment. All that video and that’s what you comment on. Included paid promotion doesn’t literally mean that. It covers product placement and product reviews. It’s a legal necessity.
The two tubes vs one tube, is to remove the negative pressure from and pulling the heat from outside into the van. Two tubes, you wouldn't get that negative pressure. It also cools better and more effective. It's the like a dual hose portal AC you put in houses. It also uses that exhaust to expel that vapor it removes too, so it's more efficient on getting that water outside instead of draining (in the cooling mode).
sorry but you're very wrong. It will absolutely not cool better by pulling hot air from out side and cooling it down. Turn your cars ac off recycle and see how well it works compared to with it on. An ac is always gonna cool more efficiently by recycling the air it's already cooled down so it doesn't have to work nearly as hard.
@@WickedWaysfpv7087 you misread their comment. They are correct.
@@c90adventures wrong
@c90adventures there isn't gonna be negative pressure with one tube cause it's then just recycling the air in the car you know like a window unit or house unit does and youre car also does this , if anything maybe a little positive pressure. Try turning off the recycle in your car in the heat of the summer it won't work very well at all compared to it on recycle.
@@WickedWaysfpv7087 I think you've just massively misunderstood how these work. If there's only one tube, and it's blowing air out of the car, there has to be negative pressure inside the car, simple physics. Normal car AC on recirc works like a two tube AC system.
But here's a good video by Technology Connections showing why single pipe air conditioners are terrible, to help you understand it if you still need help.
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Great video!
I bought one last year for our 2006 Toyota sienna minivan and it works really well on a single hose, exhaust discharge only. I did this because of space saving and knew that if it did not work, I would just have to add the other hose. But that would take up more space, which we don’t have much of. Of course eco-mode works the longest but if you’re at 100° F, you’re going to use a lot of power. For the size vehicle we are in it heats and cools quickly. I will usually put it on max to get it heated up or cooled down quickly and then switch over to Eco mode to save the battery as long as possible. I bought the 1159 W battery and glad I did. You are not going to be running this on Max in a Texas summer and expect it to last all night. It will last about two hours on max at that temperature. We don’t stay in Texas in the summertime and head to the mountains, where it works really well too cool or heat.
My ship battery is a 200 amp hour lithium but I try not to tap into that until the EcoFlow battery is drained. I like the app also. It’s nice not to have to get out of bed and just reach for your phone to change the temps.
Pros: It works really well in a minivan size area. Nice app with a Bluetooth interface. Heavy but portable, almost 50 pounds with the battery.
Cons: It’s a power hog! Expensive. Takes up some space.
I am definitely glad I bought one and would not be able to survive some of the summer nights we spent that were warm traveling last summer. If I had it to do all over again on my minivan build, I would get a 300 or 400 amp hour lithium instead of a 200 amp hour battery. At the time of my minivan build, I didn’t realize I was going to need one of these units! Cheers!🤘
I am in the States too. I am learning as I go. I bought the Eco wave 2 , the battery and Delta 2 because I have four dogs with me as well. They have to stay warm and cool as needed when I am not in the van, plus of course I need to be able to Boondock when necessary. I have to get a window board now, and a dehumidifier . Any advice? I'm listening!
@@kristykristine8657 If you have the room, install both hoses. The EcoFlow will dehumidify a small area like a minivan so you might try that first to see if it works for you. We do a lot of Boondocking also so just make sure you have a big battery bank(s) and plan for those cloudy days. And of course window coverings are an essential item. Keep that sun out in the summer and the heat in in the winter.
Finally someone who has tested both heater and cooling usually its just cooling obviously would be the season of when they was sending them out
Ye. Most people have a heat source. 👍🏻
Almost no one in van life across youtube has an AC unit, just some max air fan for "airflow." Man, I live in Florida, if any of them came down here, they'd die, flat out. xD
Humidity and air pressure is why you want 2 tubes. Any hot air pushed out will cause outside air to be sucked in through any tiny gap - these things work best when you have neutral static air pressure between the inside and outside of the vehicle, and with 2 hoses you cool and ***most importantly*** dehumidify all incoming air, as the humidity drop has a massive effect on how cool it *feels* compared to the measured temperature.
If you're testing AC and not measuring humidity then you're not really measuring how humans feel heat correctly as a 5c drop in 40c heat would be unnoticeable if the humidity stays high, but feel very pleasant if the air in the cabin is much dryer.
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I use my Wave2 at home. Last winter I used it for heat. Now it’s summer and I use it to cool. I have my wave2 sitting on a cart with wheels. I tried it hooked directly to solar panels and that works fine but now I power it with my home solar power station. I only vent the exhaust tube out a window. It’s not necessary to vent the inlet tube. The condensation drainage works fine. I run it all day then empty the bucket in the evening.
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recirculating cooled air is how most domestic mains Aircon units work, there is no air drawn from outside. Vehicle aircon usually feeds fresh air instead, but on really hot days, you've probably noticed that setting it to recirculate cools the car faster.
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@@urbanarkoverland There is a button on our vehicles that says "RECIRC" to close off the outside vents and recirculate the cooler cabin air. You are doing it right. South Texas near the humid bay and that's the way its done.
@@CatarineausArmory that was what the guy that made the vents said 👍🏻
Understanding AC is often confusing. Ecoflow is quite useful as it is a true split portal ac. Most portable ac use an electric vaporizer like LG first did. Means switching between cooling and then venting moisture. So non split ac can’t constantly cool. Humidity is big factor in cooling. The traditional window unit ac has the compressor and radiator/heat exchanger on the outside. Any excess water just drips off to the outside. Meanwhile the fan usually pulls inside air which is cooled over the radiator then blown back into the room. Some units have an option to pull the outside in. Portable unit tend to be a single hose as they non split. So the exhaust and input tend come on one hose, which cool only half the time. It’s lot less efficient. If unit had dehumidifier mode, it would need a drip hose or after running for awhile the water trip test fills up and shutdown the unit.
EcoFlow is really awesome as it a true split ac. Depend on how you set the hose and flow plates you can control where it input air and where it exhausts air. Note for off grid real ac cooling the unit does require the portable battery pack, otherwise it in fan only mode. It’s best mini portable ac currently produce. Between a generator or battery bank or Solar to its mini battery pack or ac plug. You got many options for any place. Vans. tents. Outside events. Room needing some extra cooling.
It’s expensive. But worth it for its size and functionality.
Cheers mate. We should have spoke before the review 😂😂
The water is flung against the hot side heat exchanger and will be removed by the hose to the outside.
Seems like you could create a cabinet for it to live and cut dedicated ports for inflow/airflow. If your trip doesn't require AC, have some port hole covers and leave it at home for more storage.
Yes maybe you could. But the idea is it’s portable. Not a fixed entity. By the time the tubes come off the back and the top. The cupboard would be quite large.
There are other fixed units available that take up less space. But are permanent and require ducts throughout. 👍🏻
Very interesting findings - bit like heatpumps imagine if your van is well insulated would work a treat. Thanks for sharing - all the best, David 👍
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I think it’s because, in fact, it is a reversible heat pump
It took me a while to understand but it‘s true, the 2 tubes is always better than a one tube setup. What can be deceiving is the idea that with one tube the AC is getting colder faster because it is sucking already cold air in. But this is a deception and is not actually giving you a better result. The fact is, that air needs to be sucked into the AC and if the air comes from the inside of the room/car, then a negative pressure will develop and air will come into the room somehow, and that air will always be the hot air from the outside. So with the one tube, the air might feel colder faster, but the hot air will come into the room and the net result will be less efficiency compared to a two tube system. There is two reasons why the two tube system is better: firstly, if the one tube system is actually taking the cold air, then its taking that cold air away form the already colder room and some of it will be expelled again, and warm air will leak into the room. Secondly, the AC is creating that negative pressure and actually has to work harder to suck air out of the room, the more negativity it creates, therefore it has to use more energy to create the same results. In a two tube system, there will always be a pressure balance, and hot air will only come into the AC, never directly into the room. The AC then is well equipped to convert that warm air into cold air and expellees the rest out. Creating a more energy efficient cycle. I guess the main takeaway is that with an AC hot air will always come inside the room, but it is better to channel this hot air through the AC that is equipped for this and then keep a neutral balanced pressure with the room that it cools down. I hope that helped. It took me a while to understand myself. Cheers!
This comment wins. Explained plainly, and the logic makes sense to me. Thanks
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You need both hoses for the best efficiency.There are two fans in the unit. The back of the unit should suck air from the outside then blow it back outside. The front fan will suck air in from the from, hear it then blow it back into the van. when you use one hose you will be sucking the heated air into the unit then back outside while cold air comes back in through gaps in the van.
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We had it including the battery but sold it in the end. 5000 BTU for cooling and very weak fans to push cool air out were the reason for us getting rid of it. Staying in the shade and have windows open does more that this little thing ever could. With that said, is was practical due to it's size but very heavy, especially together with the additional battery.
@@Valentineismynameorisit but still watching ecoflow videos?
@@urbanarkoverland hahaha, yeah...for some reason it came up in my feed and I thought I might do someone else a favor by taming their expectations of what this unit can do. It's definitely not completely useless but if you are planning on using it in a country like Spain/Italy summer time then you might as well forget about it.
It is a heat pump! Not an AC. You must vent the “B” side (the back side of the unit) to outside air. If you don’t do this the B side will will pull conditioned interior air from the cabin and exhaust it outside. This will create a negative pressure in your cabin and pull in un conditioned air into the space.
Why is it not ac
I'm English too, moved to Australia in 1999. Last year I purchased a block of land in a remote inland area, and I have made a big concrete slab. This year (God willing) I'll buy a single-roomed cabin, which I will get craned onto the slab. I'm thinking of getting one of these eco-flow AC systems, as for 3 months out of every year its baking hot. I'm thinking of just asking the cabin manufacturers to make a cat-flap, so I'll just put the outlet through that! Thanks for the advise of not worrying about the inlet, - it makes sense not to be sucking in hot air from outside.
It's wrong thinking. You need 2 hoses to the outside. Read and obey the manual, they want you to succeed with their product.
That sounds amazing
Yehhhh a small hate pump isn't a replacement for another heating soruce which doesn't require electicity and can work even work well when it's -15C, It's a nice addition so that overnight you can leave it running with less fear that it will start a fire or poison you and it uses your solar pannels so if you have spare elecrisity it is nice to be able to use a heat pump, and obviously during the summer it's nice to be able to not fry and in that application you are going to be getting plenty of solar to run it assuming you have like 600 - 800W of solar you can almost run it 24/7 because it will on average draw more like 200 - 300W because it will turn off and on as the tempeture flucutates.
Ye it’s power hungry for sure.
Great review, just bought ours, taking it camping in January over an Australian summer.
Excellent 😀
how did it hold up where in oz
Excellent, and? What are your findings about it, and one pipe or 2
@rodbtelenetbe it's a good unit but struggled to cool our 6-man tent in full sun at outside temp of 30*C and a shade sail fitted over tent. It's probably not suitable for that application. I used 2 tubes; drawing air from outside as recommended. The inside tube also got very wet with condensation (not the condenser water, we ran that via the drain tube to outside the tent).
@@GastronomicEntity thanks!!
Works well enough, achieved 15 degree difference (which felt cool inside the square drop trailer-in the shade, the lowered humidity helped a lot too) in 95F and 80% humidity weather here in Florida. I was also running two small USB powered fans to circulate the cooler air. My main complaint is not being able to mechanically/manually set the unit to external drainage. Every time the unit shuts down the drainage is reset to internal, which in turn shuts down the unit when really full, which happens a heck of a LOT here in Florida. The hoses, being proprietary sizes are also a PITA to hook up to anything commonly used in small trailers. The Wave 2 was outside the small square drop due to space issues, I also wish the company made a raincoat for the unit.....
The raincoat is a great idea.
And yes. I too cannot quite work out the condensation drain situation fully
28.years doing ac recirculation only will make ac smelly and contact strip down cleaning. Use the one hole extract from condenser as you have done then put the window vent they do in other window with no hose connected so fresh air is sucked from window vent into ac so u getting some fresh air and not too much heat being sucked in unlike the massive fresh air hose they want you to fit next to discharge heat so sucks heat back in when just taken it out 😆
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You're a cool dude. Great, and detailed testimony.
@@robertpiper9324 ha ha. Cheers pal
Im interested to see what people say about using a single hose out vs hose in and hose out ???
Go take a look. Many opinions below 👍🏻👍🏻
Lots of people on here not understanding how air conditioners / recycling works. The tube in / tube out system is a loop of air. This does the "cooling."
Then a second loop (front vents) sucks in air from inside the room, runs it across something cool (made from the other loop) and blows it back into the room.
Using 1 tube is not "recycling" or "recirculating" the air. This ALREADY HAPPENS through the front vents.
Yes, using one tube would mean pulling in cooler air, to "cool down" on the tube loop, but also yes it will force air to be pulled in from all the cracks etc. of the van because of negative pressure. It's basic physics.
Again, the "recirculating" is done on the FRONT end, and as the vehicle cools, it will mean it's pulling in cooler and cooler air to be recirculated. This is completely separate from the loop that the tubes are hooked up to.
It's why an AC in your house has the condenser on the outside and evaporator separately, and only refrigerant tubes (not air tubes) run into your house. You wouldn't want to take the exhaust from your home AC unit and pump it back into the house. The air is RECIRCULATED inside your house through a SECOND loop which takes air inside your house, runs it over the chilled elements inside, cooling it, then spitting it back out into your house.
You do not take air from outside the house, cool it, and blow it inside. All the air exchange happens completely outside of your house, and it's only refrigerant which runs through your walls. 2 loops. Same as the ecoflow.
I'm sorry to have to say it, but one problem he has in this video is saying "well I saw a guy on youtube say it's fine, so it must be fine," and then essentially add his own voice to the chorus of bad / misinformation. That's just bad practice. Mfr. says to do it one way "but some guy on youtube who has a fancy logo and makes branded merch said not to" just isn't a smart way to do things.
Thanks for pointing this out.
So, the question is, are there conditions in which it is advantageous to draw the exhaust loop air from inside the vehicle? I see, potentially, a situation where the temperature outside is, say, 80ºF and relatively dry but the solar heating in the vehicle is extreme. After running for a while, even with the exhaust intake in the vehicle, the air in the vehicle should be cooler than the air outside. Let's say the interior temperature is 70ºF with a target of 65ºF. Now, as the unit runs, it is bringing ~70º air into both the cooling and exhaust sides. As it does this, it is "sucking" 80º air into the vehicle at the same rate it is exhausting air to the outside. So there's a battle to further cool the current air while also bringing in warmer air. But, the cooler air running over the coils should make the cooling (exhaust) process more efficient, potentially prolonging battery life, and, since the compressor is inside the vehicle, it will lower the temperature inside the unit which does radiate some heat into the vehicle. I wonder if there's a temperature/humidity combination where a line can be drawn to determine when it's better to draw exhaust air from inside the vehicle vs. outside.
Another factor is the volume of air going through each loop. If the volume used to cool/exhaust the unit is lower than the volume being cooled and recirculated back into the vehicle, there would be more advantage to keeping the exhaust intake in the vehicle. This could be accomplished through variable speed fans or louvers that adjust flow with temperature.
Humidity throws another wrench into the equation as no one wants swamp air pulled into their camper.... If you come across any info/calculations on this, I'd be interested.
@@cbsammons I totally understand your question because it “makes sense” if you still misunderstand AC. It’s like this -
There is always a flow of super hot air in and colder air out. If you pull it from “inside” the car, fresh air has to come from somewhere, so it’ll seep in through all the windows. It needs to be hot on one side and cold on the other or the entire thing will freeze.
I suppose during that time, sucking in cooler air from outside (95 inside the car, 80 outside) has a side effect of also sucking 95 degree air out of the car…. What you’re saying makes sense. But it’s basically a really expensive way of just rolling the windows down.
The logic seems backward I know. It’s like with a wood burning stove. A wood stove potentially makes the rest of your house colder because cold air from outside the house is being pulled in through the seams in the windows etc. and super-heated in the fireplace, going right up the chimney.
So the very best place for a “vent” for a wood burning stove is right underneath it. A stream of super cold air from outside will rush in, be heated, rush out. A BYPRODUCT is that the stove gets hot and radiates heat. It can be improved by putting a fan by the hot fireplace. It’s the same concept as the two loops of the AC.
I hope that analogy helps and doesn’t just make it more confusing hahah.
@@JonValtandtheEvilRobots great analogy if you already understand it but I believe it will be all that more confusing for those that do not.
if you have a van you get a mini split and save a grip. More effective too.
My Wave2 barely cools the interior of my small asf Lexus GX470 interior even with it parked in shade and the windows shielded. Granted California is not the UK The tubes really bite. The heater function produces tons of water so better figure out how to drain it.
Car air-conditioning works better and cooler with inside recycled mode on yep keep recycling the cool air , only one pipe out side to exhaust the heat the shorter the better even put more insulation raping around the pipe 👍 with heating tho them cheap Chinese diesel heaters are the go very cheap and economical to run best off both worlds , coming from Australia 🇦🇺 where we can get freezing cold nights then mega hot days in a 24 hour session its bloody crazy mate 👍
Hey down under.
Bet you need to be equipped for all the seasons on one trip huh.
Thanks for watching 🇦🇺 👍🏻
@@urbanarkoverland sure do buddy 👍
basically its like those portable home AC’s. portable home ACs are the least efficient compared to window type and split type. but at the end of the day its better than nothing. i think we just have to think around it like insulating the exhaust hose, insulating the vehicle etc. i saw someone with an insulated swag inside a tent - basically the ecoflow cools the swag and the tent is another micro environment but protects the swag and ecoflow from the elements.
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So how well does it work....didn't really get that question answered by this video despite all the talk
@@carlredmond3642 it’s good
You need to use both hoses. Otherwise you are throwing your conditioned air outside. This is pulling in outside air anywhere your van will allow air in due to negative pressure (little gaps, gaps any little space).
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thanks for video. answered a few questions for me many thanks. I work away a lot, and spend lot of time on sides living and working from my van ( a 2018 LWB Vivaro) I have been trying to decide between a Wave 2 or a Deisel heater??? I had also thought about the Truma under bench internal box Air con / heater. my main worry was power. most of the time i have acess to Generators on sites. but not always. but as this does heating and cooling. and is portable.. maybe this is the best way for me to go.
I would say….:
If you are not hooked up. You are gonna struggle
Long term. Diesel heaters are amazing for low power high heat output. So discreet too.
I have a deisel heater.. just need to install/ set it up. Was watching your video where you put it under the body in the VW.. think maybe thats way i should of gone?? Guess i still could..but the heater i got is an all in one unit. So wont fit under van.. just need to sort air in and exhaust out.. and 12 /24vlt power.
Sadly not done as im away ( where need it most lol) but my tools are back home.. so unable to sort mods on/in van at moment.
@@agile-heliuk1801 what do you mean. All in one.
I just wish I could charge the add on batter by itself. As far as I know you have to have the ac unit attached
Wasn’t aware that was a thing. Thanks
@@urbanarkoverlandwhy are you reviewing the product if you haven’t even tested charging the battery on its own man
@@bodhicurtis-gp7xs isn’t what I review and how I do it my business. Mind yours
Thanks to you. Excuse for my english because i am french. Can you tell me where you find your window's board or did you make it yourself ? Thanks
Omit vans 👍
Ok I bought one, I luv it, but wanted to ask you has your external battery usb failed ever. My usb has recently failed on the external battery for some reason.
Plus side is the aircon is amazing, my extra battery Pac lets me run it on a cool eco mode for up 99hrs. It’s great on full mode when plugged in and does work with battery on full but not much battery for that so we use eco mode which switches between both and conserves power. I am so pumped on this it really is amazing!
Oh excellent. Glad you are happy nice never used the usb charge point to be honest. I have them all over the van 👍🏻
So the consensus is that you don’t need to pull outside air for intake. Just vent the one exhaust hose and always pull from within the van? Curious on this lol. Thanks mate.
Ideally it’s two vents. One in one out.
Enjoyed your video, however I am not sure I understood about the template you showed placed in the window, where did you get that, or how did you make it ?
Link in the description mate 👍🏻
Terrawagon has a product about 250 USD I believe
@@patientzeroTV ye 👍🏻
There are 4 vents on that thing. the front bottom has a filter and sucks in the air that gets cooled and then blown out the top front vent. The back bottom vent sucks air in that gets heated up and then vented out the top back vent. By sucking up the air in the back using the cooled air from inside, you are just wasting your energy as you are basically blowing your cooled air right outside. Edit: However, this could be useful on hot days where the outside temp is above some temp, I believe it's 105 degrees F, I don't know what that is in C.
I don’t understand the point you are trying to make.
You never blow cool air out the van.
If you use two pipes. One sucks in fresh air and the other is an exhaust that rids the hot air created in the energy transfer
@@urbanarkoverland The AC works with two loops connected by a heat exchanger. One loop draws in air to get heated up and then spit out. The other loop draws an air to get cooled down and then spit out. This means that the air that gets sucked in through the back does not get blown out through the vent in the front. So if you're sucking in air from inside your van through the back of the AC, that air is getting heat up and blown out the van through the exhaust. This would mean that eventually you're just heating up the air that you've already cooled down.
@@VincentHarrydragonphire It's worse because only blowing out creates a negative pressure within the vehicle which causes the outside air to find a way into the vehicle and heating it up. You'll only have cool air at the vent never more than that.
Great video! I'm strongly considering investing in one. Looking at the internal battery, 100% see what you're saying, but value for money wise an additional fogstar 280ah battery will cost about the same, but 3 times the capacity. Yes it means running the inverter at 85% losses, but still you're better off.
The one thing I'm considering is having permanent ducts connected with proper outlets but can't see anyone doing this.
Just trying to figure out the best way. Obviously the sides will have a lot of air movement while the van is in motion. The back would be better but I'm concerned that the run will be too far to reach the cab on a LWB sprinter.
Would the floor be a good option do you think?
Problem is with the floor…. Dust and road gravel etc
Such a great video but man.... how much power is it using? How much of my 300ah is it going to use on 8 hours?
Can’t test every scenario dude. But a battery will last 8 hours. 👍🏻
Let me guess, probably doesn’t fit between the transporter/multivan front seats, right? Where would be the best place to have this on the Multivan with the original bench/bed?
Nothing fits between there
Living in SoCal, this unit is a must, I set it to 64 and the battery lasts 4 hours, plugged into the Jackery 2000, another 4 hours. 400w of solar works good. Peace
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Great video, I had not considered running just one tube out. The EcoFlow Wave 2 has four air intakes and outlets; two at the front, and two at the back. The lower ones draw air in, while the upper ones expel it again. So with this setup aren't you taking some of the cold air in the back and sending it back out?
No you can adjust it so it doesn’t do that
Surprised you have been able to run it for so long without the drain pipe and app setting switched on, what a joy when run without that and then move the unit to get covered in water 🤣 other than that i think it’s a great bit of kit.
I’m glad it wasn’t just me. That def does happen 😂
@@urbanarkoverland Why did you leave that out of the review then? That’s a drawback id like to know before dropping 2k+ on one of these
@@bodhicurtis-gp7xs because it’s soooo variable. If I used it on battery at 22 degrees with a target temperature of 18 in a very well insulated van and I don’t once open the door. It could last 24 hours right.
Then you go buy one. It’s 26 degrees. You have a target temp of 18 degrees. It never reaches temperature nuts working extra hard because you open the door 5 times in the night letting all the heat back in. And your vehicle has next to no insulation. It won’t last any where near the amount of time.
You get straight on to me and tell me the battery isn’t nearly as good as I said it was….
Do you think a 3000 goal zero would be a big enough battery system to run the eco flow with out the add on battery?
Ye for sure. Not sure how long it will last though
Nice one, been looking at these for cooling and heating.
Amazing lasted that long on the battery, as you say testing is way too changeable but that gave me a idea of what could be.
The 2 ports in and out, see what your saying but then you moving about the same air. I know van not air tight but yeah just wondering and thinking about that. But then would use more battery because conditioning the warmer humid air.
Good product by the sounds of it, I like EcoFlow stuff good quality, works, app is good. Just bit more pricey, like the claymore battery save & spend bit extra and get good quality is my thoughts.
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Ye I think I agree. Don’t claim to be a hvac guy and everyone seems to be happy doing it this way 🤷
Guess in day time can power with solar too, for one day a year in the Uk that would be handy. Nice one
@@samhartfieldlewis5247 ha ha. Ye although we been having some hot spells and few times I wish I could offer ac for my boy in his bedroom to be honest.
Hey mate, Great vid, I’m In Australia and do a lot of camping in a small hard top, roof top tent, very interested to know how much power it draws as I would like to hard mount it in my canopy, or are there other options out there that are more efficient for a smaller space and better suited for hard wiring ?
It must be super efficient so I can run it, along with all my other gear on my 400amp setup
Cheers Zac
nice! where do you get the window mount from?
@@dragon5946 first thing in the description 🤷🏼♂️
Great video! About to buy and
it would cost me about 2k'ish USD with two batteries already.
On eco mode, how many hours can you run it? I am planning to run it inside my SUV montero sports. Thank you!
Hi. That’s soooo dependant on. Temperature. How hard you run it. How much of a temperature change you are hoping for etc.
@@urbanarkoverland thank you! The space in my van is a little bit smaller than yours, and I plan on buying two batteries. Would it be better if I buy deltamax instead of batteries? Because the delta pro has at least 3500 charging cycles whereas the batteries only have 650.Thank you!
@@FroilanJosephChavezJourney power is power mate. Probably no conversion loss if you buy actual battery blower takes power if that makes sense 👍🏻
thank you so much! Please make videos like this in the future. I am a subscriber now!@@urbanarkoverland
Great review as always, after MVT weekend, how good is it for heating? I’m looking at getting one for my Transporter as main heating for the winter and it’s been hard to find anyone that’s actually commented on real world heating.
Hmmm. Awesome. But doesn’t last a great amount of time. What about a diesel heater.
The heating is a benefit I would use say. If you are going to be hooked up then it’s a fantastic option. Drop me an email
@@urbanarkoverland Exactly. These are great unless its cold. When there's snow on the ground, it takes a diesel heater to keep my hi-top warm.
@@cabracove oh for sure. Nothing compares to a diesel heater. Definitely
Omit doesn't make one fory van, which is a 1998 Ford E-350 Econoline Club Wagon. 😢
Sorry
Another great review👍🏻 it’s ok no one else could hear the aglet on your hoody tapping on your mic😉🙉
Yes sorry was too late by then 😂
Yes, that tapping sound drove me insane. Sound quality is so important..
Awesome review thank you 🎱
Great idea mate. Great product 👍🏻
so what your saying is the cost of this unit out weighs the price of gasoline. and you might want to just idle your car and run the A/C then use this?
No I definitely didn’t say that. Should never idle your vehicle. The cost of an EGR valve outweighs this unit 🤪
Awesome review 👌 be ideal in an awning in the heat of the summer when camping 🤷🏻
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By only venting out you are creating negative air pressure so your sucking in air from?
Ye not totally 100 on this. I have stated that. I always have maxxair fan cracked.
A lot of air con people say this is fine. Almost like recirc
@@urbanarkoverlandthat is not how recirculation works in a car. There are is an evaporator and condenser in the ecoflow. One in the front and one in the back. The one in the front is recirculating the air in the van all the time. The way you have is set up is sucking your heated air into the unit and blowing it outside. It's not really debatable. That is a fact. You will loose efficiency the way you are doing it.
26 is a lovely cool day, about perfect.
Where are you in the world.
Australia. 26 is a spring temp. It's very low humidity here.
Compared to a diesel heater?
For heat
Not a patch on it.
If running the unit INSIDE, then BOTH TUBES must exhaust OUT. The tubes are therefore cooling the COMPRESSOR so the AC in front runs efficiently. They are not there to pull in outside air so that it is “converted” to cold. That’s not how HVACS work amigo!
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Two hoses. One hose is like pushing out your cool and dry air out and replacing it with warm humid air, as other have pointed out through negative pressure.
Thanks for posting. Fellow Sprinter owner. I like how the unit fits nicely between the seats. I also know you are a fan of the cabbunks. Have you used this with the cab bunks? I am concerned there might not be room for the intake/exhaust hoses with the cabbunks installed.
Hey. I think you may be alright 👍🏻
hi, how long does it last on heating eco mode?
@@usec5503 about 24 hours when i tried it
@@urbanarkoverland amazing, thx!
Great video as always very interesting but not for us at this time
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26 degrees lol don't come to Queensland Australia in Summer :)
I won’t 👍🏻
@@urbanarkoverland ☺
Hi, Nice review, 👍 nice the price is just too high, maybe if i get really drunk out of my mind and there are no friend to stop me.
@@manuelmetallica price has come down loads.
@@urbanarkoverland €900 airco and €700 for the battery, just too much for me particularly, if you can get away with it, more power to you my brother, 😎🖖🖖
Come on dose it cool off the van
Too many spelling mistakes for me to understand. Sorry
not sure why it's controversial about it recycling the cold air already inside instead of pulling air from out side and cooling it. Look at your cars it's always gonna get way colder recycling the air already in the car. Turn recycle off on the car and the air will immediately get warmer
Mainly because it contradicts the instructions. 👍🏻 but yes. That is the thinking 👍🏻
@urbanarkoverland have you tested it with heat in the cold yet was curious if it would least last all night
@@WickedWaysfpv7087 there are so many variables it’s hard to test.
As soon as you open the door all the heat is gone and you start again.
If you use eco mode it will def last the night on heat 👍🏻
Charges from 12v at 8A (96W), 1100WH battery takes 11.5hours to fully charge.
Van 200AH 12V battery, 2400WH, can charge ecoflow battery twice without recharge.
Van charges at 22A 12v (2x160W panels) solar midday sun.
2014 Hiace with two side, one front, one back window. Fully insulated.
Test 1.
35C degree day, van in full sun, insulated exhaust duct and window coverings, plugged into 12V socket no other fan on but both front windows slightly cracked open for fresh air.
8AM start on economy 26C, van temp 26C, 100% battery
9AM still on economy, van temp 28C, 86% battery
10AM switched to manual 23C, van temp 30C, 80% battery
10:30AM manual 23C van temp 31C 68% battery
11:30AM manual 20C, van temp 29C 48% battery
12:30PM manual 20C, van temp 28C, 28% battery
01:30PM manual 20C, van temp 29C, 10% battery
02:00PM end.
6 hours while plugged into 12V, average temp 30C on 35C day, 280W average usage (1100WH ÷ 6H + 96W 12V charge).
Not exactly much good off-grid in a heat wave. Maybe with a generator to power it, or you could wire solar panels in parallel to charge at 48V 8A (which the unit will take up to 60V dc at 8A, see "Hobotech" on yt) to power it while the sun is shining. Either that or use your inverter assuming you have big battery capacity and a means to recharge it,
The way you're doing the vent is perfect
Cheers
I have a bluetti powerstation, can i connect the wave 2 to my powerstation, and not need to buy the battery?
Yes 👍🏻 would be replicating plugging it into the wall 👍🏻
What is the terrible clicking?
My hoody cords hitting the mic 😱
if the manufacturer says two hoses....then im sure thats the best way to use it
Ye that’s the controversial bit.
Look through the comments. Alot of people saying it’s better that way. I’m genuinely in the fence on this one.
I have subscribed to see your opinion and final thought on this one,as im looking into buying one this year and you owning one will know best @@urbanarkoverland
With out the 2 vents if you fart in the morning you can still smell it at night :)
Ha ha
Good Job but you forgot a hose which defeats the whole AC units design.
Which I mentioned
Recirculate is 100 percent better. If anything, it is more efficient.
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16 Degrees damn thats cold ,
@@bullbutter9699 🥶
Setting an air conditioner to 16’C is absurd. Not many aircons can work properly at 16’C. 22’C would have probably made the van cooler because the a/c would be humming along!
A target temperature is a target temperature. As long as it’s less or more than the current temperature it doesn’t matter!!!
The technology is not there yet. It takes to much power and on hot days you have to be in front of the device. It is way to big.
@@billisnice on hook up it works a treat.
But remember. Air conditioning is a power thief. In every setting.
The correct saying is: “You can’t have your cake and eat it TOO”.
You can’t have your cake and it it.
It’s exactly the same. The ‘TOO’ is just extra emphasis. Absolute time waster
An Englishman doing a review on an air conditioner he bought to heat his van ??
Might be relevant for the British people but for people who come from areas that have serious, prolonged heat (Australia) it’s probably just a laugh .
May be the video isn’t for you.
Left leg 🦵 😂
Not controversial it’s common sense or should I say Rare sense
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fala muito, fecha a boca e mostra mais
@@drihmakiyama6900 yes
says Not Sponsored in the title but immediatly video says includes paid promotion, this is false advertisement :P
@@MarkusRene thanks for your comment. All that video and that’s what you comment on.
Included paid promotion doesn’t literally mean that. It covers product placement and product reviews.
It’s a legal necessity.
I could care less about the noise if I'm staying warm or cool.
@@jacobsmithjr yep. Some people are really funny about it
painful
Go on then. I’ll bite
put hands in your pockets
@@johnmerton3630 put ya phone down
@@urbanarkoverland don't have one
@@johnmerton3630 lay off the keyboard
DON NOT BUY THIS PRODUCT!!!!!!
It’s a piece of SH:: I threw mine any today. No lie.
Of course you did. You sausage
How much money do they pay you to advertise this garbage?
@@cinemafilms5079 £0 and 0 pence. Clue is in the title.