I used to really dislike Chespin's evolutionary line, but when I was replaying the games I tried it and I really liked it, it was stronger than I expected
@j.i.m1315 many people think that only Fennekin is good against the first gym, but chespin(and quilladin if you evolve it before the gym) are good against it as well since they get rollout at level 12(maybe 10?) Which is 4x super effective against vivillon, the gym leaders ace. All starters have some trouble against her surskuit, though.
@@nathanielmarino5989 I mean, Fennekin is still my favorite of the Kalos starters, but Chespin has earned a place in my heart, in fact, I'd go so far as to say more than Froakie even.
@j.i.m1315 all the starters are good in their own right. Not one of them is better than the other, and even if you wanted one of the other ones as well as one you chose, well, a close alternative is the elemental monkeys you can find in the forest, you can also find a Pikachu there to help against surskuit. There's a litleo if you didn't pick fennekin. There's a psyduck if you didn't pick froakie. I can't think of another alternative for chespin, but there is a riolu on the route next to the gym, and farfetch'd as well(with a 1% chance of finding it just trade a bunnelby for one in santalune city) if you can tell I really like x and y. I no longer have a 3ds though so while i do have the games I cant play it :(
I still love X/Y but its definitely the easiest game in the series by far unfortunately. You can have a full team thats very good without ever actually catching a wild Pokemon
i think it only gets mat block at like,, level 60-something, but also it doesn't have priority - so if Lucario outspeeds it (or ohkos with espeed) then it's not an issue
@@ValunarTonix spiky shield is annoying because it forces another turn, not because it has priority you can still kill greninja on the same turn it uses water shuriken
Dude this was literally the team I had put together back then, except the second one I had a eevee that’s crazy I had one do the most powerful teams without knowing
It’s crazy I still managed to beat the game on my uncle’s save file when he only had venasaur, delphox, Nidoran, and blazaken on his team, I beat the elite four and the champion and I was nine years old, having no prior Pokémon knowledge, after like 3-4 tries… makes no sense dog 🗿
I guess that's killing with two birds and one stone.
this is like the steven universe finale when rainbow quartz caught the gems and the owl
The fact that Farfetch'd is good for a speed run just shows that Pokemon can have values in different ways outside of VGC and Smogon...
Yeah but let's not excuse gamefreaks poor balancing
Okay...?
No I think it's because early x y is piss easy
smogon bad karen quote upvotes to the left
Every pokemon is good in game lol.
Imagine you don’t find haluchaw
Reset
literally fawked my speedrun trying to find this bastard he just wouldnt pop up idky😭literally had to restart
This is one of my favorite speedruns done
Were so people play? Like do they all have a 3Ds or just emulator
"First speedrunners pick chespin"
Me: YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHH!!!
"Not because its good"
Me: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sucks to be a Chespin fan. Blame Quilladin😅
I used to really dislike Chespin's evolutionary line, but when I was replaying the games I tried it and I really liked it, it was stronger than I expected
@j.i.m1315 many people think that only Fennekin is good against the first gym, but chespin(and quilladin if you evolve it before the gym) are good against it as well since they get rollout at level 12(maybe 10?) Which is 4x super effective against vivillon, the gym leaders ace. All starters have some trouble against her surskuit, though.
@@nathanielmarino5989 I mean, Fennekin is still my favorite of the Kalos starters, but Chespin has earned a place in my heart, in fact, I'd go so far as to say more than Froakie even.
@j.i.m1315 all the starters are good in their own right. Not one of them is better than the other, and even if you wanted one of the other ones as well as one you chose, well, a close alternative is the elemental monkeys you can find in the forest, you can also find a Pikachu there to help against surskuit. There's a litleo if you didn't pick fennekin. There's a psyduck if you didn't pick froakie. I can't think of another alternative for chespin, but there is a riolu on the route next to the gym, and farfetch'd as well(with a 1% chance of finding it just trade a bunnelby for one in santalune city) if you can tell I really like x and y. I no longer have a 3ds though so while i do have the games I cant play it :(
The fact that hawlucha is a speedrunner used in SM and ULTRA SM is funny
I still love X/Y but its definitely the easiest game in the series by far unfortunately. You can have a full team thats very good without ever actually catching a wild Pokemon
I can hear the mario cart wii music in yhe bg
So question on the "no spiky shield" wouldn't the same issue happen with Greninja and mat block
i think it only gets mat block at like,, level 60-something, but also it doesn't have priority - so if Lucario outspeeds it (or ohkos with espeed) then it's not an issue
@@altariamotives16 isn't water shuriken priority?
@@ValunarTonix it's +1 priority and extreme speed is +2 So it still moves before
@@ValunarTonix priority itself isn't an issue
@@ValunarTonix spiky shield is annoying because it forces another turn, not because it has priority
you can still kill greninja on the same turn it uses water shuriken
In my playthrough of x I swept through the game with farfetchd 😂
Whait what...?🤣😂
pokemon speedruns are so stupid it literally ruins the whole game
I won’t stand for Chespin slander
How do they set up unburden tho? Not like they need it cause of it’s insane speed but still
White Herbs for sky attack, berries, etc.
fling sometimes
To be fair, if Farfetch'd wasn't an option, I'm sure runners would still pick Chespin. It absolutely demolishes the first gym with Rollout
Dude this was literally the team I had put together back then, except the second one I had a eevee that’s crazy I had one do the most powerful teams without knowing
Wow so I partially was already on my way to speedrun on my first casual playthrough?
Yeah. I got to champion in 6 days. Then took my time with post game.
Easiest Pokémon game
Free Lucario AND Kanto starter + mega... although Sun/Moon is pretty easy too
And thats not a bad thing
It’s crazy I still managed to beat the game on my uncle’s save file when he only had venasaur, delphox, Nidoran, and blazaken on his team, I beat the elite four and the champion and I was nine years old, having no prior Pokémon knowledge, after like 3-4 tries… makes no sense dog 🗿
Nah I would've picked Froackie as a starter Pokemon
HAWLUCHA THE GOAT
The ghost elevator Girl
i would think cause the xp share they'd use more pokemon
Pokémon X and Y is the easiest game in the franchise so you could speedrunn it
I beat X in 59 minutes in my first ever playthrough 😭
That’s physically impossible without some kind of glitch or hack
r/quityourbullshit
Yeah, that's cap
That's literally impossible lmao
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Lucario 🔥🔥🔥