the new 'Mean Girls' movie is rough
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As nitpicky as it may sound, the fashion was one of my biggest issues with this film. The original mean girls film had so much thought and attention to detail put into each outfit and how they subtly reflected each character’s personalities. In the new mean girls it seems like they just recycled wardrobes from 2012 Disney Channel shows.
I liked the Halloween scene... but I was upset to see Regina in an angel costume. In the Broadway show, she was a red rabbit, and her ears were done in a way, where they looked like devil horns as she flirted on stage. I was hopeful they would do something like that with her wings or something, but no. (The rest of the scene was pretty cool! I like how they turned all the "sexy party kids" into these "scary zombie props." That sent chills.... the theater was also cold, but still!)
I agree the first thing I noticed in the the trailer was the fashion was terrible. Regina George would never wear anything that Renee wore in the movie
@@mkayyy1918 Regina George from when?? 2004, 2018 or today?! Those pants and crop tops are exactly what is in style presently.
@@MJ-gj6mj it's more that they looked cheap and fast-fashion. Very shein. She'd def not wear that
@@MJ-gj6mjAs an actual teenage girl that style is considered ugly, 2020 and fast fashion but for some reason films make it look like we all dress like that when actually we dress more like the og mean girls
I just don’t understand why this movie is so afraid of being a musical, to the point where they didn’t advertise it as a musical.
they literally took out the theatrical full sound of most of the songs that made the cut. I’m so not a fan of the production of the music. It pales in comparison to the broadway sound track. the wow factor was gone
The actual movie wasn’t afraid to be a musical, just the marketing
Money!
@@lonniegabbieit definitely did seem to be afraid of being a musical, given that even the most basic of songs (stupid with love) got the entire theatre sound taken out and swapped for a more standard, soft indie pop vibe instead. they tried to make pop hits rather than lean into the broadway musical aspect that made the original songs hit so well (and took out songs that honestly could've stayed and still served to move the plot, like 'do this thing')
i’ll be honest - mean girls wasn’t made to be a musical.
The frustrating thing about the Mathlete Competition sponsorship line is that in the musical, the joke is "sponsored by ... no one". But obviously some greedy asshole at Paramount realized there was one more opportunity for product placement in there.
yeah, the amount of product placement in this movie is insane
Great point
Right. Its like a long comercial. And the tiktok dance are so cringe.
the multiple zoom ins on e.l.f products...@@AlexeBriand2002
They really should’ve actually marketed this as a musical
They did though maybe you didn’t see them but there’s a good amount of trailers with Renee singing World burn 😭
@@miyhaI only saw the "musical" trailer online, in Irish cinemas it just looks like a normal movie. No clues about it being a musical apart from a music note in the title card which is easily missed
The musical note in the title was the hint if you didn't realize. It is a blend of the original film and Renee Rap's Broadway version.
I had no idea until this video that it was a musical and I feel so dumb now.
@@MJ-gj6mj But it shouldn't have been a hint because they knew many people wouldn't notice or understand it. They should have been transparent and written on posters and in trailers that it's "Mean Girls: The Musical:
Kinda amazing how I’ve seen the people that had horrible expectations enjoy the movie, and the ones that were neutral or had high hopes ending up hating the film lmaooo
perfectly described my experience had horrible expectations and ended up actually enjoying it
most People who had higher expectations were theater kids, who probably already know the musical and they were saying no no guys it’s not a remake it’s gonna be the musical, but then actually watched it and it was shitty vocals with them deleting lyrics and trying to make it seem like pop music plus the rest of the movie just as bad
I loved it
@Adore_A_Doll I don’t think going that far is necessary. Like, I hate the new Mean Girls, but at least it doesn’t have the line, “Do I look like most girls?”
Literally me. I did not expect to like it as much as I did, being I didn’t really like the Broadway one all to much
i definitely recommend listening to the broadway soundtrack, the lyricism is still bad but the instrumentals and vocals are so much more heightened and cinematic
My weird conspiracy theory here is that for whatever reason, they didn’t record the soundtrack in preproduction thinking they could just do it later and work off of maybe a temp mix or just the Broadway version. But then the strike happened so they couldn’t get the actors back into the studio to record the soundtrack for real and Paramount refused to move the release date because that had already lost a bunch of money and they wanted to get whatever they could in front of the Taylor Swift movie coming out in October. It’s a dumb theory I know considering how early the recording is supposed to happen in preproduction, but not having enough time to be fully finished is the only way the weird trailers and the sloppy mix make any sense.
@@tatehildyard5332that kinda makes sense. the movie was shot between March and April 2023 while the original was shot between September 27 and November 25, 2003
I REALLY disagree with the lyricism being bad. I remember listening to the soundtrack during my first year of highschool and thinking "yep, it literally is a middle ground between this and Heathers"
@@infjelphabasupporter8416 yeah i’m a huge fan of it and i loved it in school too i was just kinda going off of what karsten said
@@infjelphabasupporter8416 OHMYGOSH I KNOWWWWWWW. i even saw it live in my freshman year of highschool, so when they announced this i was really excited. but then....my partner and i went to see it and...... wow. and so now all this criticism is targeting the actual broadway show qwq and i'm like 'NOOOO it isn't the sameeeee QWQ"
i feel like theres been a trend in musical movies the last few years where they either cast actors who cant sing or singers who cant act. there are so many talented people who can do both. you shouldnt have to change the music or remove entire vocal parts because you made a bad casting choice.
exactly, especially when they had ashley park and renee rapp who were literally on broadway in the musical 😭 im not saying they needed the whole mean girls broadway cast but they needed better than angourie rice man
Westside story was brilliant
at least they did not recast cameron dallas 🫡
@@carlyboyer3918 PREACH
Case and point “In the Heights” all Broadway level singers and still phenomenal actors
Something that really threw me during this movie was that….they took out a lot of the slut shaming jokes and material from the original to update it and make it more like PC modern era appropriate? But compared to the original, the girls are so much more sexualized??? Which is made weirder that they’re more age appropriate this time around. Just strange. And so many of the “rewrites” were scenes that were shot for shot, word for word recreated from the original film with just one word changed to avoid something offensive. Which is fine, don’t offend people, but rewrite the scene! Rewrite the whole joke!! So lazy
Literally they take off all the mean things from Mean girls. So the movie should be called Girls the musical. They ruined the spirit from the movie and the redemption from every character.
My biggest issue exactly. This movie is about as mean as a 90s kid's PSA about bullying. It doesn't even come CLOSE to how bad people can get. And frankly, they shouldn't avoid offending people because the whole point is these are genuinely awful people? Let bad guys be bad! Disneyfication of media bleh.
@@AcidicGothess Felt like the movie wants to pretend Gen Z currently has no similar bullying cases just because they're more aware of it online for some reason, Tina Fey response to the criticisms is weird af
they couldn't even say "social suicide", they had to make it "social life ruiner." the production of mean girls the musical im in with a 12-15 cast is more offensive then the movie was, im not even kidding, the d-slur is used and bitch in a derogatory way a few times, which the new movie wouldn't do. but it definitely is less sexual then the remake, just more mean@@AcidicGothess
More like mean girls 2 than the original
The worst part of the movie, hands down, is Aaron doesn’t sing at all. They cancelled all his parts and it’s so depressing. Stupid with Love had a reprise (or two) with him singing with Cady and it was really good (Kyle’s harmony lines just all died ;-;). (More is Better can be axed tho, that sucked)
Yep
And then they cut off some of the songs 😭 and left out Damian's songs. It seem kinda homophobic lmao- and the voice for Katie in the new movie just seems too low.
Sign the petition@@Olive.xo70
nahh more is better is my absolute fave of the soundtrack, but yeah I agree they shouldn’t have cut ALL his vocals
@@Olive.xo70no it doesn’t seem homophobic at all
I'm just tired of Hollywood rehashing things from the past and making them worst instead of coming up with new ideas
I like the musical, it's a fun interpretation of the movie.... the movie musical felt like it struggled to get the rights to the music, and felt it was more important to go "Look! Remember this scene?" than to show it in a different, fun way. very disappointed. :(
Just don't watch it. Fans wanted it.
@@kassiogomes8498Fan here. No, we didn't.
@@AcidicGothess fan here. Yes we did it.
@@kassiogomes8498 Nah.
The Color Purple has so many adaptations both on and off screen, and each time they get it RIGHT. How hard is it to do that with a musical movie about teenagers?!
well the fact that it’s ab teenagers… the most cringe yet judgemental critics there r
I’m a teen and I loved it and thought it was very accurate
HSM trilogy is peak
@@Qiqi_120 HSM is iconic but it is nowhere near realistic to how teenagers act..
Steven Spielberg is partly to thank for that (he did the first "The Color Purple") and He made the 2021 adaptation of West Side Story incredible.
The original Mean Girls was a hit because of just how unexpected it was.
You can't make lightning strike twice.
It's hard to watch a remake of a film that you know inside out, and not constantly compare the two, but this version was more decent than I was expecting. Lindsay Lohan's cameo was also unexpected.
I was actually so shocked when she appeared I'm pretty sure that cameo carried the entire movie
Spoilers bruh
@@katlyndobransky2419 who tf actually cares
It’s not a remake 🤦🏼♀️
As a fan of the musical I’m interested to see how different it is from the broadway version, I’ve listened to the soundtrack and the instrumentals feel like they’re lacking 🫠 it seems they tried to mainstream-ify the musical to make it more pop (and marketable) instead of keeping the classic campy broadway feel
I really appreciate that they didn't rub TOO much of the social media aspect in your face, and kept it low-key. I do wish that they'd marketed it more as a musical in the initial trailers.
That's how they get more people into theaters because a lot of people don't cars for musicals
@@jasonpeet6198 I think even less people care about remakes. The musical angle would have made it stand out.
@@jasonpeet6198tricking people into watching a musical is not a good way to make them enjoy musicals.
Agreed. They easily could’ve done that and didn’t and I liked that
And you are commenting same thing in every reviews of this movies . Are you a Bot
They cut over half of the musical numbers from the stage show so it winds up feeling like bad recreations of scenes you know from the original intercut with music videos of parts of the stage songs.
The cinematography was the most jarring part of that, the music vs non-music scenes just had entirely different feels. The non-musical scenes lacked framing, energy, and focus at times and the musical scenes just wanted to fly around following the lead in a way that didn't feel theatrical. I guess that's what you get for hiring a DP that has predominately done music videos.
I completely agree! Especially jarring was that scene with the GoPro shoved in her face, i was reeling haha
I wouldn't even hate that they cut half of the numbers if they didn't "tik tokify" the music. My biggest problem with the movie was that it really wasn't a musical, but a movie where people sang pop songs. They removed all motifs and the music did not tell the story at all.
hearing angourie rice not being able to handle awkward humor is crazy considering her past filmography
"What are you doing?"
"Giving you a rimjob!"
"Wh- RIMSHOT. Rimshot..."
Did she peak with The Nice Guys or what?
havent seen the movie yet, but yeah looking at her past work is like oh of course I'd love to see her take on cady. but then seeing her in the trailer she (and most characters) looks immediately out of place. maybe it's something about the styling or production design that isnt quite cohesive?
havent seen the movie yet, but yeah looking at her past work is like oh of course I'd love to see her take on cady. but then seeing her in the trailer she (and most characters) looks immediately out of place. maybe it's something about the styling or production design that isnt quite cohesive?
I thought she was great actually I disagree with that
I agree, the Spotify product placement was WAY too blatant. Also, why did they cast Jenna Fischer and Jon Hamm in supporting roles if they were barely going to use them?
I burst out laughing when they dropped that elf product in the sink
That constant Samsung flip phone product placement had me rolling my eyes
What’s the difference between product placement and just referencing popular things people use in real life? The elf product placement in this film was weird, but people do share and make Spotify playlists to share
@@sketchycat6223Product placement is when the branding of that product has to appear. Whereas if they're just referencing things people use in everyday life, there's no need for them to explicitly say the name or show the branding.
the elf product placement too like regina would never use elf😭
the way they did the matilda musical on Netflix is a great example of how to do something like this correctly
It’s just lean into that is a musical, get someone who wants to do it, and have a good music and book to start off of.
The Matilda musical was such garbage though
it was supposed to be released on paramount plus but something changed and it premiered in cinemas instead
no it was shit and did not do the west end musical justice
In my opinion the music works so much better on the stage. As a fan of the Broadway musical, the music was the most overwhelming disappointment. I feared that they’d be adapting the musical as an excuse to redo the movie, and that’s absolutely what it felt like. The music definitely feels like an afterthought. It doesn’t have any of the cohesiveness of the Broadway score. A lot of the songs were cut down from their length on Broadway, which is sad bc most of the songs were already cut. I don’t know why they’d cast Cady without considering her vocals, then cut or change all of her songs. She’s the main character. Those songs were how her character was conveyed and how the story moved forward in the musical. When most of these songs are made back into conversations instead, you might as well just watch the original movie. I still had fun… but it was disappointing as an adaptation of the musical.
THEY CUT LIKE ALL OF MEET THE PLASTICS
Like the one song she might’ve been able to pull off was “more is always better” and they CUT IT??
@ArgoBargo I think they cut that one because Christopher briney doesn't sing (which also annoyed me; how do you cast someone to play Aaron that doesn't sing?? By cutting out all of Aaron singing, Aaron just felt like a prop in the movie which is exactly what he gets mad at Cady for calling him-regina's property)
the way they screwed Apex Predator by making it pop and taking away the pop/punk vibe of that song was such a turn off for me...
@@ArgoBargo i think this movie would have been stronger for sure with more is better and I’m so sad that it was cut in favor of just another conversation conveying some of the information from the song
as I love to call it: the longest elf cosmetics advertisement ever 😍
the elf placement was trying to be subtle then got shoved in our faces 😭
"Superbowl ad" is exactly how I would describe this movie
i actually made a little short on this myself - but the fact that they had SOME of the same iconic costumes, scenes, cast, locations etc etc as the 2004 movie and then other things were different was so bizarre.
I think if it had an entirely fresh aesthetic and cast it would come across less like a commercial or parody.
I appreciated the Lindsay Lohan Cameo but Tina Fey doing her same role was lame!
If they had an entirely fresh aesthetic people would complain that they changed it too much. Make up your minds.
@@aphyxi the broadway show was way more exaggerated/theatrical and did its own thing while still keeping the iconic references, so it didnt feel like a copy. this movie is just a retelling afaik. doesnt bring anything new to the table and feels like mean girls 2 (the other remake)
@@xxri It definitely does feel more like a copy, I don't disagree with that, but it doesn't make it unenjoyable. I still had fun seeing what I already know and love on a screen, but maybe that's because I'm not comfortable with change. But no matter what, people will be unhappy I guess.
Probably one of the Funniest movie theater experiences, the collective sighs and groans when any character started to sing 😂
Lesbians skimping for Renee rapp is literally the only thing driving this film
As a lesbian- yes lmao
I would die for Renee
Frrrr I got heart palpitations
go watch someone gets hurt from the movie n then get back to me
And bi girls -a bi girl
I feel so called out but, yea you right
The thing that bothered me most about this movie was how the camera wouldn’t stop moving! It wouldn’t rest on any character long enough to feel like we were with them. And I think that speaks to my issue with this even as a stage version… It rapidly moves from character to character to character. The original had Cady’s narration so we knew her and we knew the perspective. This has no perspective so it feels… distant.
short attention span of new gen. A long flashy tik tok movie
All we wanted was a sequel with the original cast, but instead we get a Disney Channel sequel, a broadway musical, musical remake, and a Walmart commercial 😭😭😭
Nobody wanted that either
lmao😂
the broadway musical was gold.
@@seandalo is it still on broadway?
Who tf wanted that
I feel like filmmakers try so hard to market to gen z, but it's really just what they think gen z likes and it ends up cringy to everyone.
they sanitized it for a young tiktok/social media pop audience instead of just embracing the campy charm of musicals, while also making it super sexualized, even more so that the original movie (which was more inappropriate and suggestive than highly sexual). hsm was cheesy but it was such a silly tween/teen movie that became a cult classic. don't de-broadway a movie, like just don't.
Where the fuck did Kenny Ortega go? That guy was a master of making musical films.
a great example of a Musical based on a movie being turned into a movie is Hairspray. The original movie is great, the musical is great, and the film really takes the musical to a whole nother level.
based on the trailer alone, the cinematography seems like it was made for a high school comedy airing on Comedy Central rather than a MOVIE to watch on the big screen.
Fucking Key and Peele ass cinematography.
karen's halloween scene was literally one of the best in the movie it was so fun, i seriously dont see how u dont see it as fun
every scene set during Halloween in this movie was like the only time the material ever felt elevated beyond the 2004 equivalent
agreed, this was my favourite part of the movie
that dance break thing was actual shit
sure buddy@@matilda8675
I actually had a lot of fun watching this. The humor worked for me. If its only goal was to entertain you while you're sitting in the seat, it succeeded.
Yah, but it has the same name of a movie that did that and was genuinely good as well. Didn't need to turn it into a "good enough" movie.
Agreed. Not life changing but a fun experience! I need to go back dressed as one of the plastics,!
Yes exactly, I really enjoyed it as a light hearted fun girls night movie. It was funny, I liked the musical numbers, and me and everyone in my theater had so much fun. We all laughed and were clapping and it was overall a good time!
I actually thought this new one was funnier than the og. . .please don't come at me it's just my sense of humour T-T
Same! I really enjoyed it. It was nice to see a lot of references to the 2004 movie and to see how they expanded or changed it to remove a lot of the problematic stuff it had.
have we not learned anything from the abomination called Mean Girls 2???
This movie has the same problem I have with the musical, see with Heathers they were able to add more stuff that greatly improved the original film but with Mean Girls they didn't even bother because you can't change an iconic film without having people screaming that they "ruined the original" which sucks but unfortunately true.
You can listen to almost any song in the Heathers musical and there's a story start to finish, you can somewhat visualize the scene and the lyrics embodied the characters so well. It was a genius film and awesome musical, both works having their own impact and interest. Mean Girls didn't revamp any interest or tell an interesting enough story with the songs.
@@samaxe1998 correct me if I'm wrong but the problem with Mean Girls the Musical is that the writers (Tina Fey and Jeff Richmond) don't have stage musical experience. Jeff is more used to writing songs for TV, and Tina writes for movies and TV too. I don't think they had anyone experienced with musicals in their writing team
Yeah, it wasn't a very perfectly written musical, pretty objectively 🤷♀️
I honestly think the Mean Girls musical is gold. Despite not being very different from the original, it was very fun and big and theatrical. It was fantastic
@@seandalo I like the musical too. Like yeah, there are garbage lyrics here and there, but the songs are fun bops I like to listen to. I know it can be better, but it's my junk food musical. I also saw the musical before the movie (I was very sheltered growing up) and thought it was a really cool story.
my problem with this movie was the dramatics of it. there’s no drama or build up really to any of it. it makes everything feel out of place.
As much as I LOVE Tina Fey, I agree, this did not need to be done and was a huge disappointment especially when it came to the musical numbers. I had the pleasure of seeing it on Broadway and I really love that show but this was so upsetting to the music 😢
So basically those Walmart Black Friday commercials were better than the movie 😂
This movie feels like a student film parody
I thought I was going crazy in my theater thinking the sound mix was bad but I’m glad it wasn’t just me
You thought Reneé Rapp was just OK? We riot at dawn.
Fr I have never been more offended by a Karsten video
Renee is by far the best part of the movie
She can’t hold a candle to Rachel McAdams
she was literally Regina on broadway? she has so much experience with her take on the character.
@@carlamartinezsantistevan9862obviously, but she had years of experience as Regina before making the movie
“I feel a little crazy.” That’s cause you should feel crazy. To say that Auli’i and Jaquel are “easily the best… singers” (though they are very talented vocalists) when Renee Rapp is in the cast is INSANE
I came to the comments to say the same thing
I wanted to say the same thing. Like when it comes to vocals/singing......ain't no way either of them are better then Renee Rapp. It's ridiculous how versatile her voice is.
Yes like WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT RENEE RAPP IS "OKAY"????????
Being in high school and having enjoyed the original, I found this new one to be so much fun. The musical numbers (especially Sexy and Someone Gets Hurt) did a lot of the heavy lifting, but the camera work was incredible and it was hard not to love the movie
Yes! I had so much fun watching this film. I enjoyed the original of course, but the musical, I surprisingly enjoyed it a lot. The songs weren’t bad, I loved the choreography and camera work. It looked like everyone had fun creating this film, I personally really liked it
Agreed!
if you know and love the broadway musical stage version of mean girls from 2018, with also background knowledge from the original 2004 movie, you’d see how lackluster and played down this new movie is. This adaptation took away so much of the wow factor from the songs in the original musical and adapted them into flat pop melodies. Not to mention that while still being a great actress, Angourie doesn’t have a strong enough voice for a musical theatre role. Therefore she falls weak as Cady when comparing her to Erika Henningsen, the original Cady in the musical. Not to mention all the song cuts. They hire an award winner to play Damian and then proceed to cut all of his songs out. What annoyed me most was that this movie tried to lean toward the 2004 movie, and that made it fall very flat as a good movie adaptation of the musical.
On a brighter side, Renee Rapp was excellent as regina george. Not surprising though as she’s already played Regina on broadway as Taylor Louderman’s replacement. Auli’i was also wonderful.
I'm glad you liked it! Tbh the first half I was disappointed, but I agree, Sexy and SGH were really good! I do wish the movie embraced the musical part, and we had more songs like those.
@@seandalo I actually have loved the original musical since I heard the soundtrack in 2018, and I saw the show last year when it was on tour. I didn’t mind the changes to the music in context of their scenes in the film. Even though they butchered Stupid With Love, I at least thought that was funny, probably because of the group I saw the movie with. So it likely depends on if you just want to go into the movie for a fun, campy time that you can laugh at and with.
No Mean Girls movie can replace the Mean Girls 2004. It was, is, and will be a classic. Period.
100% true!!!
I agree, this musical remake probably doesn't need to exist, but since the original stands up well on its own. I do like the new cast, and how they put their own spin on the material.
Did you really think that the musical was meant to replace the original?
I don't think it's trying to replace the original. They know that the original isn't replaceable, plus both movies are very different from each other.
Stop trashing remakes and sequels they're not hurting you just watch the originalStop trashing remakes and sequels they're not hurting you just watch the original
tina fey wrote one of the greatest teen comedies of all time and she really should have left her legacy at that, thankfully for her this mess will be forgotten tho
its actually good buddy
i also thought the actress for cady didnt work at all and i felt like there was a lack of regina screentime and a lot more gretchen. the songs at the beginning felt like they went on for too long (good at math bad at love) and some of the ones later on felt too short.
and even then it feels like gretchen barely had anything happening in any of her scenes. it felt like there was zero buildup to 'what's wrong with me' and then nothing afterwards til the candy cane scene. they just had a bunch of gretchen screentime, did nothing with it, and then left in the emotional musical number as if it was supposed to save the performance.
also for extra context - stupid with love is a LOT more upbeat and enjoyable in the original musical. i love the original song and even i it felt like it was absolutely dragging. i have to attribute this to the fact that they swapped the genre from an adorably silly, loud, fun song, for a slow indie pop vibe, which just made it feel repetitive and boring, with no big, theatrical belting at the climax of the song to even make it worth it. no one wants a long, slow song with no payoff in the middle of their movie
Thank you for sharing your two cents, Karsten. I personally enjoyed the film, though it wasn't as iconic as the original. The cast did their best at interpreting their characters in a different way, though Renee Rapp was definitely the standout performer. I looked forward to Regina's scenes every time.
I think Renee was really let down by the orchestrations, she needed more oomph behind her powerful vocals.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on The Color Purple, I haven’t seen a lot of channels covering it 💜
I personally thought it was fairly fine. I think it had some funny moments. I really liked how the choreography was done at points. I thought the look of Someone Gets Hurt was perfect. The director knew how to adapt a musical visually, not going overboard with the effects. I thought the music was catchy, it’s really just those lyrics that suck.
the music in the original broadway musical was so much more better. The lyrics still suck, but there was something so obsessive about the sound. it was so full and big and fun and theatrical. In this movie they really took away so much of the wow factor that gave the songs in the original broadway sound track so much ground. very disappointed
ok i saw the national tour of mean girls, and when done onstage EVERYTHING fucking WORKS. the staging compliments the actors perfectly, and the music does nothing BUT hype you up. it sucks that this is now what represents a former, imo, legendary musical
i think the problem is rooted in the fact that mean girls the musical wasn’t great and leaned mostly on the same jokes from the original and “current” social media trends, which immediately aged it, and i worry that the movie adaptation didn’t learn at all from where the musical fell flat.
The more I think about this movie, the more I hate it. The original is arguably the greatest high school comedy of the millennium. This feels like a photocopy.
As a fan of the musical (and the movie ofc), I felt… pretty gutted by how awful the production was on this. Like holy crap I wanna fight whoever did these arrangements. The songs never hit the highs they’re supposed to, and when they’re turned into generic pop songs, the bad lyrics (which have always been awful) somehow become even MORE awkward. Also the editing was a mess?? World Burn was trying to give me a headache. And who tf put that treadmill scene between Cady and Aaron in the bedroom? Also the movie was ugly to look at?? The lighting and the compositions were so boring and flat. And idk if this was just our theatre, but the cropping of the movie was off? The actors’ heads were just cut in half and you’d have your focal point just… much higher than it’s supposed to be? Maybe that was a problem with our theatre or maybe that was me looking for reasons to have a bad time but. I actually REALLY WANTED to have fun with this. I still did have a lot of fun, but the technical aspects were just so bad and I was so frustrated throughout
Totally agree! It's also refreshing to see someone criticize World Burn as everyone is praising Renee Rapp--I don't think her performance in this movie was as good as everyone else is saying. Although that could be due to direction.
Yes, camera work was awful. The lead could NOT sing (who thought she was a good fit? I am baffled by that casting decision). And the arrangements were incredibly lackluster. I was really missing the musical elements. Like, telling the story through the music? Where did all the music motifs go??
@@themysteriousone33 lol tbh I am very heavily biased towards Renée Rapp (I wore her tour merch to the movie) so I personally had no qualms with her performance, but I agree that the music just felt so empty there it felt just. Wrong. Like the ensemble sounds so bored, the orchestrations were bad (tho already one of the “better” ones of the movie imo) and the direction was clearly awful there. Though what I was referring to when I brought up World Burn was that last section with the flashing comments onscreen lol. They flew by so quickly you couldn’t even read them, and I just couldn’t deal with the lights flashing. I thought Renée Rapp was that sequence’s only saving grace lol (again, biased)
@@c.lawnmower_ That is fair. I'm not saying her performance was bad, per se. But, I think she did much better on Broadway. Again, probably due to direction, not her fault.
I think you just have a eye problem, buddy.
@@FaxsEditsRemade my family does actually have a history of not doing well with flashing lights so you may be right lol
I HAVE SO MANY ISSUES W THE NEW MOVIE GIVE ME A FEW BUSINESS DAYS TO COMPILE MY LIST
I've seen the musical and the original so many times. This was a decent take on modernizing it. Rapp was actually at one point Regina in the musical on Broadway so I would say she was pretty perfect for it. Karen and Cady were the corniest characters.
honestly as a fan of both mean girls and musicals, i went and saw the stage version this year and was thoroughly confused about what the hype was about. i had many of the same complaints you do here, mainly where it just feels like a rehashing of the movie but worse because they know which lines are the iconic ones so they put an unnatural amount of emphasis on them
if you know and love the broadway musical stage version of mean girls from 2018, with also background knowledge from the original 2004 movie, you’d see how lackluster and played down this new movie is. This adaptation took away so much of the wow factor from the songs in the original musical and adapted them into flat pop melodies. Not to mention that while still being a great actress, Angourie doesn’t have a strong enough voice for a musical theatre role. Therefore she falls weak as Cady when comparing her to Erika Henningsen, the original Cady in the musical. Not to mention all the song cuts. They hire an award winner to play Damian and then proceed to cut all of his songs out. What annoyed me most was that this movie tried to lean toward the 2004 movie, and that made it fall very flat as a good movie adaptation of the musical.
On a brighter side, Renee Rapp was excellent as regina george. Not surprising though as she’s already played Regina on broadway as Taylor Louderman’s replacement. Auli’i was also wonderful.
I disagree, they MISSED OUT most iconic lines ("nice wig what's it made out of ? Your mum's chest hair ! " "It's coz I've got a BIG LESBIAN CRUSH ON YOU!" "If you're from Africa why are you white ?" "Omg Karen you can't just ask people why they're white !" "Calling each other sluts and whores just makes it easier for guys to call you sluts and whores "
In fact them missing the main quotes is my biggest complaint
calling renee rapp "ok" tho was a pretty big mistake in my opinion lol
I too love the og Mean Girls movie and I usually agree with your reviews, but this movie really hit me in a different way than it did for you. I think the movie perfectly understood what it was supposed to be and it didn't take itself all that seriously. Also, I think Sexy was one of the best numbers! Definitely agree with you about the main actress though... she lacked charisma.
if you know and love the broadway musical stage version of mean girls from 2018, with also background knowledge from the original 2004 movie, you’d see how lackluster and played down this new movie is. This adaptation took away so much of the wow factor from the songs in the original musical and adapted them into flat pop melodies. Not to mention that while still being a great actress, Angourie doesn’t have a strong enough voice for a musical theatre role. Therefore she falls weak as Cady when comparing her to Erika Henningsen, the original Cady in the musical. Not to mention all the song cuts. They hire an award winner to play Damian and then proceed to cut all of his songs out. What annoyed me most was that this movie tried to lean toward the 2004 movie, and that made it fall very flat as a good movie adaptation of the musical.
On a brighter side, Renee Rapp was excellent as regina george. Not surprising though as she’s already played Regina on broadway as Taylor Louderman’s replacement. Auli’i was also wonderful.
You know it’s a bad sign when you see the title of the video and think “wait they made a mean girls movie?”
As a young theater kid who grew up with the musical more than with the movie and will fight anyone who says it is bad. I completely agree about this adaptation. Both a disgrace to the film and the musical that I love.
And since I played the math guy in my community theater production of it and came up with so much backstory, I was genuinely offended by that scene.
Also, I've seen Renee perform live and she is incredible I have no clue why she sounds like this in the adaptation.
I will say that I had a great time watching the movie somehow despite really not liking it in retrospect
Karsten is mean… girls.
Wasn’t expecting the killing of a sacred deer to be brought up in a video about mean girls as a comparison
SICK of how you didn’t mention Renée’s vocal chops like Someone Gets Hurt and World Burn weren’t rapturous experiences.
Saw this last night and I gotta say i kinda enjoyed it. A bit of a guilty pleasure but I had a fun time with it
I feel like the whole reason for Tina Fey's musical was to give her husband, Jeff Richmond, a job.
It was meant to go straight to streaming and was only put to cinemas at the last moment. Might explain why it's so lacklustre
Thank you SO MUCH for this review. Like you, I was SHOCKED to see how well this was received and have been feeling CRAZY. But I feel waaaay less crazy after watching this video, so I can rest a little bit from my ranting now LOL. You were SPOT ON- the lack of screen presence of the lead, the cheesiness of it ALL, the rough draft-quality... the SONIC EMPTINESS... the lack of charm and comedy in what is SUPPOSED TO BE A COMEDY... the tiktok dances... "why did they do this?" "i wanna say something mean but i'm not- i'm not gonna say anything" ... that "SEAT GEEK" Lindsay Lohan moment... chiiilleeee... WH- i- HAHAHAHA anyway great work on this! 🎯
putting tik tok in a movie already excludes it from being timeless
if you know and love the broadway musical stage version of mean girls from 2018, with also background knowledge from the original 2004 movie, you’d see how lackluster and played down this new movie is. This adaptation took away so much of the wow factor from the songs in the original musical and adapted them into flat pop melodies. Not to mention that while still being a great actress, Angourie doesn’t have a strong enough voice for a musical theatre role. Therefore she falls weak as Cady when comparing her to Erika Henningsen, the original Cady in the musical. Not to mention all the song cuts. They hire an award winner to play Damian and then proceed to cut all of his songs out. What annoyed me most was that this movie tried to lean toward the 2004 movie, and that made it fall very flat as a good movie adaptation of the musical.
On a brighter side, Renee Rapp was excellent as regina george. Not surprising though as she’s already played Regina on broadway as Taylor Louderman’s replacement. Auli’i was also wonderful.
The gretchen girl and renee rapp where the best ones imo they gave me the same vibes as the oroginal regina and gretchen
Gretchens line delivery was really good and idk how he didn't say that renee is the best singer there. She just is. Janis and Damien are awesome singers but her two solo songs were insanely impressive
@@All-ze9cl yess!! When gretchen said "you cant sit with us" it was exactly how the og gretchen would say it and yes, rennee rap is the best singer, she and janice have the best voices of all the cast
A surprising number of films have made the journey from movie to Broadway musical to movie musical. “Hairspray” is probably the most successful one, but there's also The Producers, Chicago, Sweet Charity, Nine, Little Shop of Horrors and The Color Purple
I’m so glad you feel this way…mean girls is a top 10 film for me and I felt fucking insane leaving the theater on Thursday….seeing everyone love it made me think I need to rewatch, but I definitely Do Not
This movie was made for paramount+ and you can tell lol
Istg, within the first five minutes I was questioning whether or not I was watching Mean Girls or another High School Musical
I had the most insane experience watching this movie. I went on the day it premiered, and there were loads of teens in the audience, and not to sound like a grumpy old woman, but it felt like they'd never seen a movie before. Screaming at dialogue that's the same as the original film? At plot points that we already KNOW were gonna happen? Pulling out phones and filming bits of the movie? I felt SO OLD lmao
haha i felt old just watching the movie, and I didn't think I was too many years older than teens today. The pop music plus all the tiktok vertical camera angles--I felt like I was watching one big tiktok video lol (I don't use tiktok)
I think a lot of the issues came from the fact they had a small budget. It was only meant to be a straight to streaming movie.
Is there something I missed? Why have there been so many remakes of well known movies/shows in the past few years? Is the entertainment industry just running out of ideas now? Lol
I rewatched the original just a little bit after so I wouldn’t have an aneurysm.
The musical numbers are missing the instrumentals from the Broadway original. They did it SO dirty; please everyone listen to the Broadway Cast Album and you’ll see that the tunes aren’t the problem, it’s the acting, instrumentals and some of the vocals (looking at you, Angourie).
i think this movie will displease fans of the musical more than fans of the original movie, as i said before, it seems like it was afraid of being a real musical and only put some of the songs in short pop versions, even Reneé sounded completely dull and anyone who has seen her singing on Broadway knows that she can bring house down with her vocals.
Dull?! Come on, her vocals on World Burn were amazing!
As a big fan of the musical and the original film I actually loved this movie, I think they did really well at cutting down the amount of songs and changing some songs to make them different for the film
i feel like they should’ve added Stop in the beginning of the second half because the message Karen sends is important
as a fan who know and love the broadway musical stage version of mean girls from 2018, with also background knowledge from the original 2004 movie, you’d see how lackluster and played down this new movie is. This adaptation took away so much of the wow factor from the songs in the original musical and adapted them into flat pop melodies. Not to mention that while still being a great actress, Angourie doesn’t have a strong enough voice for a musical theatre role. Therefore she falls weak as Cady when comparing her to Erika Henningsen, the original Cady in the musical. Not to mention all the song cuts. They hire an award winner to play Damian and then proceed to cut all of his songs out. What annoyed me most was that this movie tried to lean toward the 2004 movie, and that made it fall very flat as a good movie adaptation of the musical.
On a brighter side, Renee Rapp was excellent as regina george. Not surprising though as she’s already played Regina on broadway as Taylor Louderman’s replacement. Auli’i was also wonderful.
Auliʻi Cravalho is in this? It would be cool to see her more in things.
This movie had a whole lot of potential to it, but the main thing that was really missing is; the fact that this IS a musical. I realized that they had taken out a BUNCH of songs from the original broadway musical, and it really shows. The left out parts were very much missed in this movie, even if they were smaller parts. Regina's songs stuck pretty well in this adaption, especially the songs "Someone Gets Hurt", and "World Burn", and "Meet The Plastics" (I was quite sad to see Karen's and Gretchen's part be taken out of "Meet The Plastics"). Reneé Rapp (Regina), Auliʻi Cravalho (Janis), Avantika Vandanapu (Karen), and Jaquel Spivey (Damian) were the actors who really stuck out the most to me, I was not by any means disappointed in their work, I liked Angourie Rice’s performance but I don't think she was the best fit for Cady. The point is tho, is that this was supposed to be a movie adaption of the musical adaption, and in some parts it felt like that, other parts…. it felt like it was just an okay remake of the original film.
as a fan of both the movie and the musical, i actually had higher hopes in some regards seeing that it was kind of a middle ground between both versions of the story. i thought maybe they would get rid of some of the things that didn’t work in the musical, making it the perfect version. instead, they basically put both versions in a blender and sharted out the result. it was so disappointing.
I think the best way to go into this film is by severring it from the original, and considering it a broad adaptation of the stage show. I know that easier said than done because the musical was based on the 2004 film- but that film is an iconic cult classic that ultimately nothing can hold a candle to. My friends and I went into the musical movie with no expectations other than to have fun, and enjoyed it as a campy, colourful adaptation with some (sadly not all!) of the songs from the original musical. My only critique would be that the songs were definitely adapted to cater to a different audience, so i can see how some fans of the OG musical would be disappointed.
The original was a big hit so it can’t be a cult classic but it is a classic
@@randywhite3947 the term cult classic isnt just for obscure films but thankyou! Its audience has predominantly (not exclusively) been younger women or queer people. Its a 20 year old film thats still memed, quoted and rewatched even still by the people who saw it in cinemas in 2004. That sure sounds like a cult following to mr :)
@@maddiebaldwin8095 it doesn’t turn 20 until April and only films that have flopped only to be rediscovered can be considered cult classics
@@randywhite3947 not really fussed on whether its 19 or 20 years old mate thats not my point 🤣 definition is 'something, typically a film or book, that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society'. I think its beyond silly you felt the need to nitpick when its really not a big deal 💛
@@maddiebaldwin8095 you know I’m right
The Broadway production isn't a masterpiece, it's simply fun. The music is full of energy, the line delivery is confident, it's just a fun experience. I've not seen the 2024 movie yet but I've heard enough of the soundtrack to know they sapped all of that energy and confidence out. Idk why, it's ridiculous that any of it got approved though.
The worst moments for me were the ones that clearly really wanted to be clipped on Tik Tok
Oh man I couldn't take it! It was so watered down as a mean girls remake that it might as well have just been called girls. Nothing mean about this Disney Channel bootleg.
i do have to say i think you are crazy karsten. not for disliking this film but for somehow thinking renee was just OK and not the absolute best vocalist in this film
respect all ur opinions besides that because she literally stole every scene she was in especially the musical numbers. even my mom who doesn't really pick up on that kind of stuff pointed that out to me
I’m convinced he walked out of the theater before World Burn because HOW do you listen to that and go “Meh she’s okay”???? Actual blasphemy.
He meant the acting. As for singing he obviously is not very well versed on it
Unfortunately, most remakes fall short of being as good as the original, very few are.
I would highly recommend listening to the Broadway album. It’s in no way a perfect show, some of the lyrics are just not great, but it at least feels kind of complete? My biggest issue with the music in this movie is they took out so much of the orchestration and then just didn’t replace it with anything else.
You are so right about the mixing cause I heard the soundtrack and it sounded so garbage and was hoping the visuals elevate it but I guess not
Without knowing about the movie itself, it sounds like 2018 heathers based on the adverts for it
It basically took all the charm of what made the original Mean Girls amazing.
I actually liked this WAY more than I thought I would, but I really can’t get over the fact that this isn’t marketed as a musical. I can proudly say I liked the fun, campy Mean Girls the Musical. I cannot say I liked Mean Girls, no not the original, the remake, well sort of remake, the musical remake.
I want to see it because Mean Girls is one of my all time favorite films but I cannot see myself paying to Uber to a theater and buy tickets for this, wish they'd just put it on streaming
It'll probably hit Paramount Plus soon! :)
to be frankly speaking, i’d rather watch the entire Walmart commercials staring the OG casts rather than this remake. why, because the OG casts are already iconic in their own way. even though if they are going to make a sequel of Mean Girls without Regina herself (maybe showing her a bit why she completely disappears), that’s much better than these young chicks.
Tina Fey should’ve learnt from Mean Girls 2011 and why the movie was flop.
We left halfway through the new Mean Girls. It was stupid. Like they ran out of new movie ideas.
Seeing the new Mean Girls later today and as a HUGE fan of the musical I am worried. I've listened to the new soundtrack and compared to Broadway they did the songs dirty. I was hoping for a rent-style movie recreation of the musical. Still going to give it a chance!
Curious what your thoughts are as a fan of the musical! Many of the comments on this video are from people who haven't seen it or just don't like it. As a fan myself, I was sorely disappointed.
@@themysteriousone33
Same same
80% of the songs are better in the films calm down
I'm a huge fan of the broadway musical but I didn't think any of the content from the stage translated in any way to this movie.
why did you have to bring up that old regal theaters intro?? i was ALMOST through processing the trauma in therapy
I think the flat direction and uninspired staging of the musical numbers can be be explained by the fact that until September it always planned and was going to be a paramount+ original. This was never intended to play in theaters 🤷🏻♂️
i was actually surprised, and the new one wasn't all that bad. although for obvious reasons, a handful of songs had to be cut out. also they made slight tweaks in the lyrics to fit a different arrangement of characters singing some songs (for example, apex predator with janis and damian without cady). and the movie should've been marketed as a musical though... i mean SO MANY people thought it was a remake and were bashing on race swaps or whatnot.