How Keener faked his death || Story / Lore || The Division 2

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 10 дней назад +75

    Keener’s a clever one that’s for sure. I don’t believe we should ever fully trust someone that left his own lieutenants and allies to burn. But as it stands he needs our help as much as we need his.

    • @AdenTheWolf
      @AdenTheWolf 10 дней назад +2

      I couldn't have said it better my friend :3

    • @Krisars
      @Krisars 10 дней назад +3

      Enemy of my Enemy type of deal, if you ask me

    • @dars5229
      @dars5229 10 дней назад +5

      @@Krisars The enemy of my enemy is also my enemy.
      Source: Um, let's just say every single history book ever.

    • @Krisars
      @Krisars 10 дней назад +2

      @@dars5229 Okay, anti-Keener

    • @dars5229
      @dars5229 10 дней назад +2

      @@Krisars Yep. 👍

  • @orrthehunter
    @orrthehunter 10 дней назад +42

    This adds to the reason why Keener was in Washington DC before events of D2 during the 1.0 era contents. However, the major detail here is that Division Agents can now be tricked into seeing things due to their SHD tech lens everyone of them got implamented into their eyes which we know since D1 is something all Agents got so they can see all these Data stuff we the player see as well that account for ammo, gear, enemy's status, and etc. This can also get a bit interesting if they utilize this right. Imagine a Hunter that utilize this aspect as a way to make Agents see things that are not there. It can turn into a horror movie for the Agent if they are trapped alone in a dark and isolated place with them being unable to even trust what they see.

    • @Krisars
      @Krisars 10 дней назад +5

      Yeah, given the hologram tech in mind, if Hunters got a copy of it, it can be used against our Agents

    • @FatalFist
      @FatalFist 9 дней назад +1

      That’s what makes The Division Agency so flawed. All it takes is a mad lad to become President and he will ask you to jump.

  • @DaScorpionSting
    @DaScorpionSting 10 дней назад +33

    I wonder how many hunters Keener and his team have taken out.

    • @bravocharlie275
      @bravocharlie275 10 дней назад +10

      With watch upgrades and pre meta striker builds dude was emoting on their corpses probably 😅😅😅

  • @bartosz3837
    @bartosz3837 10 дней назад +36

    I generally wouldn't have a problem with fake death... if it wasn't for the fact that it actually looked like that
    Clearly the devs killed him off at THAT moment, there was a special DLC for his hunt in NYC, he died on that pier... he died.
    If it was part of a larger game then, the devs would have 100% programmed that last duel differently, in a different way, with different dialogues and it would have a different vibe now.
    For me its kinda cheap.

    • @XbaconfordayzX
      @XbaconfordayzX 10 дней назад +8

      It's extremely cheap yeah

    • @_Fulgur_
      @_Fulgur_ 10 дней назад +7

      i feel like goobisoft was desperate to add more lore and content so they were like "yeah lets just add aaron keener back in so we can have a few more seasons"

    • @Krisars
      @Krisars 10 дней назад +3

      Does it matter at this point? Division 2 was supposed to end after Year 2, yet here we are.

    • @XbaconfordayzX
      @XbaconfordayzX 10 дней назад +1

      @@Krisars if they wanted to make more story after year two do something else or make something new

    • @Krisars
      @Krisars 10 дней назад +1

      @XbaconfordayzX They did. With Faye Lau and Schaeffer back in Season 9

  • @chaosxny5784
    @chaosxny5784 10 дней назад +4

    Great coverage as always, NGN.
    13:30 I can't help but chuckle a little at how right Theo was about the decoys being so "realistic". Even here, its extremely hard to tell who's real and who's not.

  • @L30NHART
    @L30NHART 10 дней назад +9

    So, I wonder how Hornet is involved in all of this. I wonder if the Nemesis simulator faked his second death. I haven't replayed his manhunt recently, but I remember it was similar to Keener's boss fight with the Eclipse virus distorting the arena... possibly hiding the simulator imperfections.

  • @L30NHART
    @L30NHART 10 дней назад +9

    When I first listened to the Comms about shapes, I think they were alluding to shapes representing the A.I. systems. The (orange) circle represents ISAC, The (blue) diamond represents whatever Black Tusk is using. I wonder what shape ANNA will take when its fully deployed.

    • @Krisars
      @Krisars 10 дней назад +1

      The blue diamond is DIAMOND, the AI interface that Black Tusk soldiers use for their network. Except, DIAMOND doesn't speak

    • @L30NHART
      @L30NHART 10 дней назад +1

      @Krisars Yeah I know it doesn't have an avatar but Black Tusk probably refers to it internally as something else.

  • @SerDoomned
    @SerDoomned 10 дней назад +6

    what was Keener working on?
    He got Mac's file with the list of all the hunters' real names. It was also said that Faye took his side but was unhappy with the missile launch plan. So he said right in the mission that he was playing a "Catch 22", and either the agents eliminate him, but due to a bunch of interference (gas, drones, etc.) they don't realize it was a trick and he goes into hiding, or he successfully launches the missile and eliminates the main forces of the hunters and most likely the Tusks.

  • @confidential837
    @confidential837 3 дня назад +1

    8:55 WHEN NO ONE HEARS A WORD, I SAY

  • @ViperZero523
    @ViperZero523 10 дней назад +4

    13:55 run a jammer pulse instead of striker drone, becomes not a waste of time

  • @charlesmadden8905
    @charlesmadden8905 10 дней назад +5

    How many times must we prove ourselves we’ve done so much but it’s never enough

  • @koby772
    @koby772 9 дней назад +2

    so that's why the nemesis looks like keener

  • @anthonydrakefordshadow
    @anthonydrakefordshadow 10 дней назад +2

    Theo is going to need someone to be responsible for his dad as a part of his story arch. Anderson? Natalia? Cal!!! Somehow the comms will have to uncover who made the call to eliminate his father. Patiently waiting for the inevitable ❤

  • @ricoeubanks2026
    @ricoeubanks2026 10 дней назад +6

    I love the lore I just don’t like how they keep switching up the story wat happened to the guy in the coma, is he ever gonna wake up where is Natalya, what happened to her.

  • @Ursusvandraco
    @Ursusvandraco 10 дней назад +2

    I agree that Keeners rocket launch plan could be a Hummels plan (like in The Rock), or maybe he tried to launch the missle not on NY, but on Nat's bunker.
    The only thing that troubles me after watching this is: when did they had the time to do all these things. I know, that there have been something about 7 months between Div1 and 2, but still. That is a lot work done in such a short amount of time with that little personel...

  • @proxybishop
    @proxybishop 10 дней назад +3

    Wait... I am gone for a long time and only to realized that Keener is alive???

  • @wockyslush3038
    @wockyslush3038 10 дней назад +8

    I love how the devs thought of everything EXCEPT the agents bringing back Keener's "dead" body and properly disposing of it. Idc that it's an apocolypse scenerio but standard operating procedure of military, federal operators (like CIA GRS and Ground Branch), and law enforcement (local, state, and federal) is to properly dispose of an HVT's body, especially for autotopsy. The entire crux of WONY was that the agents and everyone else was like "yea he's dead, no need to do anything else".

  • @alphatonic1481
    @alphatonic1481 10 дней назад +6

    Is anything even real in the game? I mean we see our agent always from a third person perspective and it's never questioned. Is a stealth drone following us around?

  • @hefeydd_
    @hefeydd_ 10 дней назад +3

    Over a year ago, I expressed my astonishment to another Agent, wondering if they had just pulled a Matrix on us all. He responded by saying that he didn’t understand my question. What if none of this is real, and we’ve been fighting ghosts all along? He admitted that he didn’t know the answer. Was I right? Did they do a Matrix on us all at the end of the last season, wondering aloud, “Holy crap, has it all been a lie?”

  • @amikhiltzandre2447
    @amikhiltzandre2447 10 дней назад +4

    Wait a Minute. . . . . If Theo Parnell Was a Simulation Who’s Smart Watch Did We Extract With?
    Maybe It Was Actually Theo’s Smartwatch With a Simulation Body But That’s one Hell of a Execution

    • @Js-ld5er
      @Js-ld5er 10 дней назад +1

      Or it was cloned

  • @aq5426
    @aq5426 10 дней назад +2

    The only other thing that I can think of is The Football. If he gets his hands on that., then we are all seriously boned.

  • @EnderEye5231
    @EnderEye5231 10 дней назад +10

    Wait Kenner want’s the divison to find his team. Does that mean that Dragov, Kajika and Conly are also alive. I mean hornet did survive and returned but only because Thermite saved him and as far as i know she is dead. I can understand that there is a small chanse that Kajika could still be alive but i find it hard for Conly and Dragov to be alive since Conly blew herself up in the end of her boss fight an only her watch remaind and Dragov was the head of the Rikers and was very serious about family. If he was alive than the rikers would not have Fractured as they did and he would not abandon them so, either he did abandon them witch goes against everything he belives in or the Divison did a terrible job making sure he was dead. Both senerious sems unlikly. Only Kajika is the other on i belive could survive because he is a Ghost. His information was analog and he died in the new York sewers wich are dark so there might be a chance he could slip away.

    • @Krisars
      @Krisars 10 дней назад +4

      No, his team is currently mainly him, Theo, and Kelso

    • @EnderEye5231
      @EnderEye5231 10 дней назад +1

      Ok that makes more sense

    • @dragonman9482
      @dragonman9482 10 дней назад +6

      Well if you replay the missions where you killed the people who worked with keener you’d hear that ISAC only said rogue agents deceased instead of also saying there names

    • @aq5426
      @aq5426 10 дней назад +2

      Honestly I hope Conley doesn't come back. But I would 100% see Dragov coming back if it meant that he would be turning the Rikers into a force for positive change instead of them remaining a bunch of "Hey we can do whatever we want" cartoon villains.

    • @L30NHART
      @L30NHART 10 дней назад +1

      I wouldn't be too surprised if Conley returned, only because of her extensive knowledge of the A.I systems, Ortiz research, Cal, and Sokolova. The other dudes were kinda your typical mustache twirling extremists with very personal vendettas. Conley did too, but I think she has seen the truth more so than the other NewYork warlords.

  • @voiidpichu4310
    @voiidpichu4310 10 дней назад +6

    I feel like bringing Keener back was cheap as hell. But I did hope for a storyline or dlc where we could join him as rogue and fight the jtf and division forces while still fighting the other factions. Or at least give us ANNA as our watch voice or allow our watches to glow red instead of orange

  • @willt9721
    @willt9721 10 дней назад +3

    1 minute ago is life-changing

  • @AVCI711
    @AVCI711 10 дней назад +1

    I understand why he left conley and Dragov to die.They never wanted to be partner with keener from beginnig hell Keener even threatened Drago to make him work for himself. But Kajika?well thats where he fucked up just like he fucked up on Jupiter's and hornet's team.

  • @johnmcconnell7052
    @johnmcconnell7052 9 дней назад +1

    Basically no one stays dead like dc and their heros superman dying constantly

  • @John-nj6xl
    @John-nj6xl 10 дней назад +1

    Excellent video again ngn. Keep getting better and better. Tho as someone has said in this comment section. The more we hear about keener and theos fakes death it does make one question anyone that we killed is actually dead? I do think he was meant to die on that pier but the devs thought he was too good to be killed off and it was a way to bring him back. The only rogue agent we know is dead for sure cuz the devs confirmed it was Faye Lau. As much as I love his character I do think at the end of the Brooklyn dlc that keener does die whether by sokolovas hand cals or us. And with how much she is featured in the comms and how vital she is to keeners plan I do think viper is alive. She just featured too much man.
    As for the eclipse yeah still a mystery. But with how effective that virus is I think he mustve been targeting sokolova probsbly one of the black tusk bunkers. But I'm curious as to where Cal is exactly or even if the Ortizes are still alive. Hopefully we get more answers.
    Another great video mate 😀

  • @CoolGuyCallMeAc
    @CoolGuyCallMeAc 10 дней назад

    8:51 make me think if everything we do up until we capture Theo is just what they want us to see? Who’s to say they aren’t doing this now and does that open the door for other possibilities

  • @Iby00
    @Iby00 8 дней назад +1

    The Theo comms you played all catagorised under theo or where are they? keep getting comms (like descent) but no idea where they go. missing a bunch of manhunt ones too, but sometimes not obvious which boss/manhunt to kill/clear to unlock them

  • @CoolGuyCallMeAc
    @CoolGuyCallMeAc 10 дней назад

    When this season started I ran into a rouge agent that was using these decoys, but the thing with these ones in particular is that they switched spots with the decoys. I lost the fight against the rogue agent and it was in open world too. I know what I fought. I know what I saw. I knew this was a thing. I thought maybe it was a bug in the game but after watching this it adds validity to what I was thinking and maybe they were testing it out in open world and the percent of us being able to actually encounter these are low because it’s still in”testing”?

  • @ajkono73
    @ajkono73 10 дней назад +1

    Was he aiming for New York, where was Cam and the rest of any existing government?

  • @StraightOutThaGudda4U
    @StraightOutThaGudda4U 10 дней назад +3

    I know I have missed some of your vids which I have to go back and watch, but I'm kinda lost, keener isn't dead? I understand the simulation on how it can manipulate agents into seeing things that aren't really there ,so does that means keener used this tactic to fake his death? Also you mentioned that he was captured, when did this happen?

    • @CS91
      @CS91 10 дней назад +1

      They haven't said anything yet but I'm like 99% sure they're alluding to the fact that the "battle" against Keener in WONY wasn't real, it was the descent sim tech being used. Honestly, I'm not even sure if the eclipse missile was even real.

    • @StraightOutThaGudda4U
      @StraightOutThaGudda4U 10 дней назад +1

      @CS91 🤔 makes perfect sense, keener is very smart as well so he wouldn't go down so easy like that. Things are getting really interesting with the lore in this game, thanks for clearing things up for me

    • @PPDN_Seis
      @PPDN_Seis 8 дней назад

      Keener got capture, But I think he gave himself up voluntarily, after we, the player, ended up the Keener trials ( Y6 S1).

    • @StraightOutThaGudda4U
      @StraightOutThaGudda4U 8 дней назад

      @PPDN_Seis what's confusing is that we 'killed' him in WONY but i guess we didn't

    • @PPDN_Seis
      @PPDN_Seis 8 дней назад

      @@StraightOutThaGudda4U It's because Keener seems to have used a simulation to make us believe that he died, so we did kill Keener... But it was a simulation, so... Yeah

  • @fiel81
    @fiel81 10 дней назад +7

    Somehow....Keener returned

    • @ltsgobrndniagre3endofquote525
      @ltsgobrndniagre3endofquote525 10 дней назад +1

      And we're all the happier for it. Let's be honest warlords ended on a very sour note

    • @PPDN_Seis
      @PPDN_Seis 8 дней назад

      ​@@ltsgobrndniagre3endofquote525 I agree, WONY ended a bit... Bad for me, I mean, an enemy that die like that, bullshit... But now what the devs are doing with Keener, its good, its... Making good use of the lore and all this shit that we know, and i like way that it's going, everybody say that the lore its dogshit, i think not, the lore... Its... Like a 50/50, can it have is bad side? Yeah, but at least it has some good things

    • @kazumablackwing4270
      @kazumablackwing4270 8 дней назад

      @@ltsgobrndniagre3endofquote525 warlords was trash from the beginning, tbh. they basically turned Keener from a clever, cunning adversary to a moustache-twirling comically evil moron disney villain for no reason

  • @dragonman9482
    @dragonman9482 10 дней назад +1

    Should’ve done this when it first came out last month

  • @javierolalde
    @javierolalde 7 дней назад

    Makes sense when he didn't use a med pack like Kajika, or conley

  • @majorbulldad
    @majorbulldad 10 дней назад

    Always Impressed. Always!

  • @mahnwmeisjep5112
    @mahnwmeisjep5112 6 дней назад

    So after theo, find another member of his team? I thought after shades of red we'd do another trial by kelso

  • @Puzzle.D.Pheonix
    @Puzzle.D.Pheonix 10 дней назад

    Nice to meet you.

  • @ltsgobrndniagre3endofquote525
    @ltsgobrndniagre3endofquote525 10 дней назад +1

    U should make a video about the loot goblin 😆
    Possible backstory perhaps?

  • @AVCI711
    @AVCI711 10 дней назад +1

    NGN may ı ask asomething? Keener abducted Vitaly in the first game okey.He had hi mmake a virus called eclipse okey.But while he was pretending to be dead,he lost all the virus?where are all eclipse now?So are developers trying to say EVERYTHİNG he did,kidnapping Vitaly and gordon amhert's equipment infirst game were for nothing?

    • @jack727dave5
      @jack727dave5 10 дней назад

      He has the recipe for eclipse and however it's made the outcasts were able to make a sizable amount of it. Plus there is at least one rogue group out in the world that we don't know about.

  • @caffeinated8935
    @caffeinated8935 10 дней назад

    So we bring Kelso in next season, and it looks like Viper may still be alive as well due to some recent comms. We're getting the band back together!

    • @shdghost8872
      @shdghost8872 9 дней назад

      Next season we're going to Brooklyn NY. We're probably going to meet her there.

  • @FilipeVSM-lz6ed
    @FilipeVSM-lz6ed 10 дней назад +5

    Your videos are as always TOP NOTCH. When it comes to the current lore... They've ruined it, period. Faking death of a character is already a creativity flaw, but make entire parts of the lore be shallow. Like no SHD agent didn't take their contact lenses off. Theo being the most knowledgeable hacker without doing a single mistake. Both Keener and Theo dropping their watches with real data. Things don't make sense and never will.

    • @aq5426
      @aq5426 10 дней назад +1

      Eh, I'm going to partly disagree with you on that one. Faking a death is a valid plot device, but you can't overdo it. I don't think it's been overdone, but I do agree with you about the contact lenses; that doesn't make a lot of sense narratively speaking.

    • @FilipeVSM-lz6ed
      @FilipeVSM-lz6ed 10 дней назад +1

      @@aq5426 I understand. And also about the contact lenses... How can agents die to projections? These projections can seem to be shooting at you and doing all sorts of things, but there's nothing there. It's like a VR, or Descent. It's a simulation, an ilusion. You can't be hurt or die because of it. The only reasonable thing that could be considered is their SHD tech to be turning against them of simply exploding at their backpacks, but that's not the case.

    • @jack727dave5
      @jack727dave5 10 дней назад

      @@aq5426 For faked deaths we have Keener, Theo, and Viper. More importantly the way the deaths were faked or undone is easy and simple enough that we can't say for certain that anyone we killed except fae (probably) and BT aligned guys will actually stay dead. Viper was a minor manhunt target; Luna is also a minor manhunt target. We know that Luna is extremely useful to Keener's plans so will she actually stay dead? We can't say for certain.

  • @BearByers65
    @BearByers65 10 дней назад +1

    As a content creator myself..... ngn is far the best and my favorite. Love his stuff

  • @braedonwalther8564
    @braedonwalther8564 9 дней назад

    Am I the only one who wants some kind of tactical lever gun or compound bow (ik there is the crossbow)

  • @CoolGuyCallMeAc
    @CoolGuyCallMeAc 10 дней назад

    I KNEW IT WTF THIS IS INSANE

  • @AdenTheWolf
    @AdenTheWolf 10 дней назад +1

    Fuck I love the direction massive goes with the story. It's interesting and fun :3

  • @LoFoSho
    @LoFoSho 10 дней назад

    Since we all died during Covid anything is possible

  • @chunkrock8218
    @chunkrock8218 8 дней назад +1

    Yeah I gave up playing this season because of how dumb the new mission system is and due to the length of the season,I’ll just get the lore and cutscenes from you

  • @Aaron.Keener
    @Aaron.Keener 3 дня назад

    Surprise, surprise ...

  • @SPƏ4R
    @SPƏ4R 10 дней назад

    I don't know about you but i feel so deceived right now😅😂

  • @riv4196
    @riv4196 10 дней назад +1

    Great video. Love the game of course. But the writing has become a little cringey to me. The banter is a bit childish at times, regardless of the character talking.
    Its not so much that I wouldn't play a new division game. But i do check out a bit mentally when it gets a bit marvel movie/twee.

  • @jasonhernandez730
    @jasonhernandez730 10 дней назад +1

    It’s not like we knew this already. He has done this multiple times. Because the devs said we lost majority of what made the game interesting. He died in a dlc a long time ago this is just them asking for money. So this even means Kelso isn’t actually fully bad either.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 10 дней назад +1

    Ayo what

  • @M4A1BestGirl
    @M4A1BestGirl 10 дней назад +2

    Shocked to see the redemption arc of a terrorist like Keener

    • @Krisars
      @Krisars 10 дней назад +5

      @@M4A1BestGirl It's more of an Enemy of My Enemy thing than a redemption arc.
      Just because we're working with him, it don't mean he has a redemption arc

    • @libor2010
      @libor2010 10 дней назад

      Its very possible that he never was a bad guy and shit they feed us whole time was just manipulated data and illusions to stop his hunt for Calvin McManus.

    • @jack727dave5
      @jack727dave5 10 дней назад +1

      @@libor2010It’s also possible he never did anything good and is only using our techno schizophrenia to have us do his dirty work for him. Both are fairly unlikely but let’s not assume he a saint.

    • @ltsgobrndniagre3endofquote525
      @ltsgobrndniagre3endofquote525 10 дней назад

      One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. I've always believed that. We had no business being in Iraq or many other places

  • @colbywhite7198
    @colbywhite7198 7 дней назад

    I'm so torn because I love your videos but holy cow the people they have running the show over there at Massive are cooked. The writers and voice actors are a joke. The characters just don't match the masterpiece of a world the artists have created. I mean there's people hanging from streetlights but this geek is talking about how this simulation is "like paintball and airsoft at the same time" and "people will just think you're high as fuck". It just seems like it was written by a 16 year old.

  • @Aristocratic13
    @Aristocratic13 10 дней назад

    Hoping Faye is alive

    • @shdghost8872
      @shdghost8872 9 дней назад +1

      Unlikely. In the Stranded Tanker Manhunt, Manny outright stated that Rhodes buried her body at Haven.

  • @RadeonIsDead
    @RadeonIsDead 10 дней назад +1

    STUPID STORY

  • @taganreaper7304
    @taganreaper7304 10 дней назад +11

    Honestly at this point story is just a shit show.

    • @Krisars
      @Krisars 10 дней назад +14

      Please, some of y'all hated the story since day one

    • @thegreatestheroyouveneverh6054
      @thegreatestheroyouveneverh6054 10 дней назад +3

      Well, it was written by ubisoft.

    • @Jester4460
      @Jester4460 10 дней назад

      @@thegreatestheroyouveneverh6054 most of it was written by tom clancy untill ya know

  • @RadeonIsDead
    @RadeonIsDead 10 дней назад

    I DONT LIKE IT

  • @theboot5852
    @theboot5852 9 дней назад

    So if Theo’s boss fight is a simulation, how do we die? Say it’s the phase where he comes out into the arena and there are no more Rikers, just you and Theo, how is he killing us?

    • @jack727dave5
      @jack727dave5 8 дней назад

      I mean you respawn, so the death isn't canon. That being said the only real answer is that they didn't plan on Rezing him and so need to adjust and excuse the past in order for it to work.

    • @theboot5852
      @theboot5852 8 дней назад

      @ I know they’re basically just improvising with the story at this point. The only reason why I’m still playing is because I’m too invested at this point. Tbh I hate the new changes to the season. The journey’s are way too grind heavy to be enjoyable.

  • @CoolGuyCallMeAc
    @CoolGuyCallMeAc 10 дней назад

    When this season started I ran into a rouge agent that was using these decoys, but the thing with these ones in particular is that they switched spots with the decoys. I lost the fight against the rogue agent and it was in open world too. I know what I fought. I know what I saw. I knew this was a thing. I thought maybe it was a bug in the game but after watching this it adds validity to what I was thinking and maybe they were testing it out in open world and the percent of us being able to actually encounter these are low because it’s still in”testing”?